The Show: Combine Week, Year 2 Wide Receiver Comps, and More

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Speaker 1: You're about to listen to the Late Round Fantasy Football show, which originally aired on YouTube. If you'd like to catch the show live this offseason, you can head to the Late Round Fantasy Football YouTube channel YouTube dot com. Slash at Late Round FF will be live each Wednesday at noon Eastern without further ado. Here's this week's episode.

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Speaker 2: Welcome In. Welcome In David Kitchen alongside JJ, Zacharyese and JJ. How are you.

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Speaker 1: I'm good? You know, I will say I've been solo parenting since Sunday. He is, you know, got a seven and three year old at home, and I've been doing it all alone. My daughter has danced every night. She has danced Monday through Thursday, every single night. And so the tough part is, you know, navigating the timing of the dance class, the picking up my son at his school, the just putting it all together. And so I do want to just shout out all the single parents out there who have to do this day in and day out. Fortunately, my wife comes back tonight, so tomorrow it's going to be paradise.

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Speaker 2: Here's what I know. You cannot say. You can't say that you're babysitting.

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Speaker 1: No, that is No, you don't say your babysitting, it's your exactly. That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: I'm saying to there's some possibly new parents or parents are out there. You can't say babysitting about your your own children when.

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Speaker 1: You're so you are being a parent. Look, I pull my weight, you know, every day. It's just it's another level whenever there's things that you know, my wife, like my wife is sort of like the dance mom. Like I do tuesdays for with my daughter for dance, but my wife does the other three days and she's you know, taking on the dance mom role and stuff and and all that. But I, you know, so like I still do stuff. It's just that when you have I don't know how people do it with like four or five kids. I have no idea. You know, mister Tuttle out there with his clan, roto Pat with his clan. Oh yeah, there's just there's just people out there with with lots of children. I have no clue how you're able to juggle all that. But my my week has kind of been like, you know, get my work done during the day, of course, but then you know, there's there's a time period like three thirty to seven every day to eight where it's full blown. Can't be working because I don't have anyone helping me with the kids. And then at night I'm just grinding out these prospect profiles.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, someone said to us JJ, I'm not gonna say who it was, but they they're a parent. But they also said they don't get up until eight thirty am. Yes, and yeah, every time I have to get up early, someone.

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Speaker 1: In the fantasy industry. Yeah, that's the only that's the only clue we're going And that's the only clue.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not saying who it is, but every time I have to wake up early, I'm like, imagine not having a wake up.

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Speaker 1: What time you wake up every morning? Six?

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Speaker 2: Around six? This morning, I wrote, woke up a little earlier.

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Speaker 1: Mine's usually in mine six thirty to seven.

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Speaker 2: Usually you're getting some times you wake up before me.

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Speaker 1: So in the timeframe, I mean, it's still it's all relative.

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Speaker 2: No kind of speaking of prospect guy, though, JJ I did. We had someone ask for the countdown timer for those that are listening. You know, we've got the uh, the little spreadsheet theme going on, and we have days until so like three hundred and fifty four days into the Super Bowl, fifty seven days until the NFL Draft, one hundred and ninety seven days until the twenty twenty six NFL season, and JJ, I almost didn't do this because I don't want to get you like anxious before we start.

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Speaker 1: I feel I'm confident. I feel good all right.

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Speaker 2: Nineteen days until the Prospect Guide launches.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I can tell you guys where I'm at. Yeah, in that process, just I feel like like people might be curious about, like, how much of it do I have done? The Year two profiles have been written for a really long time. All of the bulk of the of the of the guide at the beginning, like the intro stuff like what goes in the models and understanding the models and all that, that's all written and done. We have a new tight End model that's amazing. Brandon worked on it very very hard. I was kind of overseeing it over the last month, and we got to a really really great place. It's very cool. There's an example in the guide about the tight End model that I think might blow people's minds a little bit, but you know, I'll save that for people who are, you know, digging in and reading it. But with the profiles, you know, we have you know, Godula's do managing the tight end stuff. I'm doing the running back and wide receiver ones as I usually do. There's forty six wide receivers. There's twenty running backs, and I have half the running backs done. I'm waiting on some of the running back stuff because I want to see for comp purposes and and you know, speed score matters in the model for running backs more. I want to see that kind of thing happen at the combine. And so I'm waiting for half of the So I have ten of the twenty running backs done, and then I have I think thirty one of the forty six wide receivers done. So at this point and I started, I do like the best players, and then I get into the lower tier guys, like the Day three guys. The Day three guys, you can you can get through them pretty quickly because there's usually you're trying to find like redeemable traits with these players, analytical traits. Some of them have them, and they're interesting. The ones who don't, it's really just hey, guys, you know, realistically, there's like a point two percent chance that this guy is even rosterable, you know, in Dynasty at this point. So you know, I'm not going to like spend a ton of time digging into this when I know in the end the chances of that person being relevant. And not only that, but all these profiles get rewritten, or the majority of them do, when the NFL Draft hits. And so if one of these players has surprising draft gup or something or goes to a team where his immediate opportunity looks really good, I'll rewrite it and I'll update it. But but you know a lot of those like lower tiered guys Day three wide receivers, you know, late day three undrafted wide receivers. It's just it's you guys will read as you go through, and it's this is the same way and every guy every year. As you go through and you reach like the guys that have like a ZAP score of twenty or fifteen or whatever, I just start throwing in sarcasm and a lot more jokes.

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Speaker 2: You got to fill up that space somehow. Yeah, someone that kensickly. I asked, but is the color pellette ready?

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Speaker 1: Actually, no, it's it's not yet.

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Speaker 2: It's not. However, JJ I didn't even get to tell you this. This morning. I researched how to do it automatically with the script and I am so excited.

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Speaker 1: Ooh yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: For those who don't know, we use in design for for.

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Speaker 2: The Adobe and design and I'm the I'm the hex code palette RGB guy. That's all. I'm just the one providing the splash of team colors and that's pretty much what I do. Make sure the fonts, that's true.

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Speaker 1: You're doing a lot of them, You're doing a lot of marketing work for them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but in the actual guide I feel bad because.

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Speaker 1: I mean the actual deliverable, it's a lot of that. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Just don't worry. I'm not doing any analysis, not sneaking in Eli Stour's profile and in adding anything.

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Speaker 1: That's all.

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Speaker 2: It's all JJ, It's all Brandon Godola, and we will have author pages this year as well because we do have Brandon helping with some of the tight end stuff and the modeling. So I'm excited about that. I'm also excited about Early Best Ball JJ. We have Early best Ball that has already started, and so what better way when people are doing their best ball or their rookie Grind.

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Speaker 1: Year two.

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Speaker 2: Grind talking about free agency to draft early best Ball on DraftKings. Talked to someone yesterday they said, it's it's it's not I don't want to say like easy mode over on Draft Kings, but it's easier than other sites right now for early best Ball.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean experience, Yeah, I experienced that last year with I don't want to say that my top fifty you know, no, you can million team was the result of a softer rooms in general. But I do think that you will, like I had better results on DK than I have like max entering and doing more on DK than than other platforms and sites. I think a lot of it is just their audience is different. You know, there's people coming over from the sports betting world that want to give it a try and such. But there's a lot of skill involved in getting the right kind of team, you know, just just knowing how many positions to draft and knowing which players you get and all that kind of stuff. And so yeah, I mean I think it's a great platform. I really fell in love with it last year. I'm excited to you know, play more on drafting this year.

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Speaker 2: This is early best Ball, So this is the it's one million dollars in total prizes. So that's a lot for early Best Ball and it will stop like when the draft happens. Right, So this is your drafting players that you don't know exactly where they will be going. You're drafting off of talent. And again, if you're purchasing the Prospect Guide or you're listening to the show, then I feel like you already have a leg up. And if you know Best Ball snow waiver wires, no roster management, it's a bigger roster than what you're typically used to doing that to just take your optimal score each week.

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Speaker 1: JJ. Yeah, keep in mind that the Prospect Guide because people are worried about, well, what if he doesn't get this draft capital whatever, and I get all that, like there, we're not going to know until the draft actually happens. But NFL Mock Draft Database inputs from a draft capital perspective are in the Prospect Guide, like that's the draft capital input for the players scores in the pre draft version, so you at least get a general idea. And I've been I've been using the NFL Mock Draft Database for a few years now, and yeah, I mean like, it's not gonna be like they're a guy like Pat Bryant last year ended up going a lot higher than expected, or you know, Isaac Tesla or whomever, and then the opposite happens to like l iman Or at one point was a second round pick on NFL mock Draft database, but then he ended up being a Day three guy. That kind of stuff is going to happen. But you know, the majority of these players are are pretty on point with where their draft capital sits. So the guide and the scores for these players should be able to help you out in these early best ball contests and.

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Speaker 2: After the guy launches. Also, we'll have some rankings for our members in April, so before the draft, will also have some live streams. So make sure that you're hanging out here sticking around. With that being said, JJ, you ready to hop into today's news.

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Speaker 1: It's do it, Today's Fantasy news.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's start with a little bit of a somber note. You mentioned it on the podcast this week, JJ, but Rondel Moore rip I talked about it on yesterday's SWOL cast as well, and it's just like Peter Overzett was talking about he was such a guy that was kind of like in our circle too, Like Rondell Moore was like a guy that we had been researching who we were excited about and regardless of what happened on the field, we like. The people that are interested in dynasty and talent and just raw ability really really liked him from the get go.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, crazy production profile at Purdue, I mean, not absolutely insane early career in Adrian, justin production. But yeah, I mean, like it's just a it's an incredibly incredibly sad moment for sports, for the NFL, I mean anything, anytime something like this happens, it's just it's just incredibly sad. And you know, I don't want to speculate, like we shouldn't speculate as to you know, why this happened, right, Like, I think it's very clear that, you know, mental health is a very real thing, and unfortunately, some people get to that point where they feel like that's the only answer. And I think it's important that if you're listening to this right now, it's not the only answer. And there are people in places and things that that where you can go to seek help. And as I said on the show, and I mean it my email is open to you know, you can find that on the website. So I you know, it's just sad, Like it hit me for sure. Yeah, you know, I didn't know him or anything. It's just one of those things where you read, you know, Hollywood Brown's tweets or AJ Green was sending some tweets out about how they FaceTime every week and they have like there's so many people that are impacted by this, and it's just a really sad situation overall. You know, I said this on the show yesterday. It's a really difficult thing just to be transparent with you guys, like I care deeply about this kind of stuff. I care deeply about making sure that you guys don't think that I'm viewing these players as just you know, digits and numbers and a spreadsheet. These are our real dudes who are living just very normal lives, and you know, fame and money isn't going to necessarily solve and cure all of their problems. AJ Brown's talked a lot about that with the mental health stigma of how people view you know, athletes and how they're sort of untouchable and it's like, oh, how could you have any problems. If you're making millions of dollars a year, it's very deeply important for me for you guys to know that I'm thinking and internalizing all of that kind of stuff, and I try really really hard to make sure that you you know that that's being portrayed and talk to you now. I know that my podcast is an escape for people to get away from all the craziness of their everyday lives. Just don't think that that means that I'm not paying attention to what's going on in our everyday life and the important stuff in our everyday life, and the important stuff is love and life and friendship in relationships, and so it's a sad thing overall. I hope that you guys, you know, took that from the show yesterday. And it's this weird dynamic where I'm giving advice, I'm you know, I'm doing analysis, I'm talking about this stuff, and then something like this happens and I still have to do my job, but I do want to pay respects to him as a human and as a man. And then at the same time, you know, people need to know that that's not the only answer for them if they're in that state of mind.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, sobering reminder are just the talking about the Hollywood brown stuff. Just when we see an athlete get injured, we're obviously looking at it from kind of a selfish lens of like how it affects your team or what role it opens up for someone else, but man for them, Yeah, when you see there they're talking about their livelihood and just the the emotional toll that it takes. Definitely a sobering reminder just of how physical and violent that that the game is that we love. But again, he was is like the videos of him at Purdue lifting and and like.

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Speaker 1: That dude he was. He was so good. I mean I I look his the only thing that was against him from like an analytical perspective as like a prospect and stuff was his size, but his production pro Like, he's got one of the best age a justin production profiles out of college that I've ever seen. It's crazy, and like you know, for from from everything that everyone said and what we've read, like he was a great teammate, a great person. He's got that tweet. It's just so sad. He's got that tweet of him buying his home, the home for his mom that's like the last tweet he sent like years ago, or because he wasn't very active on Twitter and stuff like that. It's just that, you know, like because you know, when stuff like this happens, there's this ripple effect of the community and his close friends and family, and you just sit there and you are just feeling for them as deeply as you possibly can. And that's that's where you know, it's just it's just sad. It's it's horrible.

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Speaker 2: So we'll transition from that to week. You know, it's not like an easy transition. There's never an easy transition. Yeah, but it would just say that, you know, he was a guy that performed well, and now we're looking at other guys that are performing well and who are working out not working out, and that this week is Jordan Tyson. He is not working out this week. Yeah, and we have news that Mackay Lemon and Carnell Tait are participating in drills. So where are you on Jordan Tyson right now? Because he is falling down draft boards mock draft boards.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I don't really care that that much about what other people think about him as a prospect. Right, I'm gonna I'm gonna go by what my research and analysis is saying first and foremost. Now, I shouldn't say that I just ignore other people's analysis totally. You know, I've I've the person I talked to with wide receivers most because I have a personal friendship with them and we text all the time about it. This time of year is Matt Harmon, and Harmon isn't as high as I am on Jordan Tyson. And that at least gets me to say, like, my goal is not to just say listen to the model, no matter what. My goal is to give you the best analysis I can. And the model is not always going to be going to be right. I will say that more often than not when I've gone against what the model is saying, it's bit me right, and it's it's been the wrong decision to make. And so I'm trying to just like, you know, I'm right now, Like I'll just say it like pre draft. You know this this first iteration of the Prospect guy that's going to go out March sixteenth, Jordan Tyson is going to be in more than likely in the Legendary Performer category with Carnel tat McKay Lemon and the elite producer category. But I think there's a real chance because of the injury stuff and the more subjective things that the model won't capture, and the fact that his draft capital could fall right like his like it could be lower than expected. I'll probably still have him a wide receiver one, but in the same tier with those other wide receivers and those two other wide receivers. I like a I mean, I think that you know, people oftentimes will hear you. You know. The thing that I that I don't like about prospecting in this time of year and like how things you know unfold in the end when we look back, is that, you know, if Jordan Tyson flames out or if he does really really well, it's like my prospecting season hinged on that one thing, which is absurd. It's it's one singular outcome for one singular player. When we're you know, I'm analyzing, like I said, sixty seven different running backs and wide receivers in this draft class. There's there's a greater and bigger picture here. I understand that that's going to be you know, a top six, top seven, whatever rookie draft pick and such so so obviously we want to get it right, but I do think that Tyson's profile can go in different directions. I'm just telling you right now that objectively, he has the best age adjusted production because of what he did that third season off of his his big injury, so you know, injury stuff is definitely concerned. The fact that he's not testing and doing things because of that is is a concern. Like I'm not, you know, just gonna ignore that. But I think that's also why we have tiers and we can say, okay, instead of him being like this clear you know, Tier one kind of player, I'll throw him in with two other incredibly good wide receivers.

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Speaker 2: I am excited that it seems like people are at least competing in the drills. I hope that they're doing the like forty time, like I want Lemon to do the forty time. Jeremiah Love though, anticipating in drills and do it like that's awesome, which.

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Speaker 1: Is great because we need like a lot of those high end running backs recently have not like Ashton Gent. We didn't see ye do did right? Yeah I don't think so, but yeah, I mean, like I want to see what Love can do and not none of that. You know, I've talked about how love to me like, I don't think he's going to reach Ashton genty from a prospecting perspective in the ZAP model, yeah, because his receiving numbers aren't quite there. Now. Sure you can make the arguments that if he were in any other system or whatever, I get all that, guys, But his receiving numbers, you know, for what the model looks at, they're not quite to where like a Gent was, because if Gent's like second to last year or Bijon or Jamior Gibbs, especially like Gibbs was one who had crazy receiving numbers. But there's a chance that we see Love look better in the model if he does go crazy like a player like him, running the forty means that a good forty time is about to come, yeah, or at least a good speed score, right otherwise why would he be running, you know? And so I'm very excited to see what he can do because if that speed score jumps up, which is way to justin forty time, then there is a chance that he has a better score than what I've kind of been talking through on the shows and stuff. I mean, he's an elite player. He'll be the one on one in your rookie drafts, you know, unless you want to go Mendoza, but I think you know I would. I still think that Love is probably the safer bet, just because we know the volatility exists there at quarterback, not nearly as much at running back. So it's not going to change that. It just will change how he's kind of viewed within the context of running backs from previous classes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. I want to see what his rating is, Like, I just want to know what Love is and JJ, I want you to show me. I can't believe you just did the in the prospect guy.

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Speaker 1: That's good.

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Speaker 2: Good tag tag, You're it. We have franchise tags.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you let it so that the audience that's the laugh track behind us could yeah, could could.

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Speaker 2: Either laugh track or just shaking their heads.

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Speaker 1: And shaking their heads for sure.

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Speaker 2: Uh. Kyle Pitts though we talked about this last week that he could be tagged and he was by the Atlanta Falcons.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, good tight end offense with Stefanski. You know, I think that that Kyle Pitch showed us last year that he's better than what people generally thought, you know, I think that there's still some limitations to his game, but he's from a fantasy perspective, he's the kind of tight end that we want. You know, he's athletic, he's big, he can he can uh see high target chairs, and we just need him to be deployed a little bit more in the red zone.

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Speaker 2: He's had an up and down curry It really has, I mean, like Arthur Smith's stuff in there, even though.

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Speaker 1: With Kyle Pitts has been expectations, you know, and and and people setting like absurdly high expectations for him, which, to be fair, I get it because he's you know, if you look at like the Zap model or you know how how he just was viewed as a prospect coming out. Yeah, like he's the expectation should be high. But he's been a really good tight end to start his career overall, All.

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Speaker 2: Right, not so easy breezy, uh for Breese Hall, because apparently if they don't extend him or trade him for at least a third according to their jets GM, then they are going to tag him.

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Speaker 1: And just weren't they weren't they off?

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Speaker 2: Was it?

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Speaker 1: Were they looking for a second in season is that the difference here? Because maybe because how could they have not gotten a third for him in season when we know teams are going to be a little bit more desperate because there's you know, situations where that calls frud. I think what wasn't it? Maybe maybe it was the moor Than third differential like difference for the Chiefs in particular, but there was a report about that. But regardless, Breshaw, it sucks.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 1: Brisol is a really good running back and he's stuck in this miserable situation. And I said it on our discord, but I don't think there's a coach in the NFL, even in the last like five to ten years that has put me on tilt more than Aaron Glenn. He he just everything that he says just tilts me. Uh And you know, Breshall being attached to him for another year is just really frustrating.

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Speaker 2: All right, gidde up. Javonte wants to be a cowboy baby. Javonte Williams three year extension.

00:23:38
Speaker 1: Yeah, good for him. Man, twenty four million dollars.

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Speaker 2: Where's that put you on Javonte's stock heading into next season?

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Speaker 1: I think he's a solid, relatively volume dependent, you know, Like I haven't done any rankings, obviously, I would assume he's going to be in like RB two range. Like I have a hard time, you know, I already did the top ten you know earlier this this offseason. I don't think he would crack the top ten. I don't think he'll he'll crack RB one status, but you know he can beat He was good after contact last year, kind of back to his earlier career numbers. He was a good prospect coming out. I liked him, But I do you know, I think that the idea of Jaden Blue, not Jayden Blue. The idea of Jayden Blue makes sense for Dallas, you know, getting a dynamic compliment to Javonte Williams, and that could cap his ceiling a little bit if they go that route this offseason. But I think Javonte is at least like a solid My only thing is that if he does, you know, get into more of like the dead zone area from a redraft perspective, that's usually the kind of profile I don't want to go heavy towards you know, his his receiving efficiency was not good last year, and so that would that would scare me a little bit. But as of today, right now, let's celebrate Javonte Williams. Congratulations on kind of turning your career around down there, and.

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Speaker 2: Now exactly what you want to do as someone who goes somewhere, go to Dallas, get a three year, twenty four million dollar deal. Free agency starts next week, and JJ, we've already got Kirk o Chain's part two theories about Kirk Cousins. He's going to be released, and now what's gonna happen?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, where are people thinking that he's gonna go? Minnesota? I mean Minnesota.

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Speaker 2: Minnesota is one of the kind of places that people have thought about. It makes a lot of sense.

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Speaker 1: Minnesota makes a ton of sense. Yeah, I would not be shocked if he goes to Minnesota, and I wouldn't be shocked if he starts for Minnesota if that were to happen. Yeah, the free agency thing, I had that epiphany earlier this week and I messaged you in Brandon, but I was like, usually the Prospect Guide goes out a week after the Combine. This year it's two weeks after the combine because we have more content that we're delivering to you guys. And so the thing is though, is that I write all these year two profiles and free agency starts around that time. So in the past I would release the guide and free agency hadn't started yet, and then you could see my pre free agency takes on these players. But now I'm gonna have to update some of these year two profiles based on what happens in free agency, which might not be a bad thing in the end, from like a you know, more up to date content kind of thing, because there's like that dead period then in April where nothing's really happening, but at least now you're gonna get some updates. But there are some players like RJ. Harvey for instance, or wood he marks.

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Speaker 2: R J.

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Speaker 1: Harvey is the one in particular where I've been talking about him being a sell for the last month or so in Dynasty, and and the Prospect Guide, you know, is echoing that because it's coming from me, And there's all these reports about how they might draft somebody or like somebody higher than we expect, or get one of the higher and running backs, you know, in free agency because JK. Dobbins is no longer a Bronco, so like, you know, I wish I could be early, but if you're listening, this is why you listen to the podcast, you know, during the off season. I do think that something is going to happen to that backfield. Maybe it ends up being a good thing for Harvey, but because it's not like a big investment. But right now they're sitting with Harvey, Tyler Badet and Julil McLoughlin, and it's very hard to imagine that a team with Super Bowl aspirations is going to go into a team that uses their running backs as much as Denver does, is going to go into next season with that trio in their backfield.

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Speaker 2: All right, there is a big time Willis Malik Willis steam up people's draft board whatever you want to call it, you know, free agency boards and dynasty draft boards, like I feel like some people have. He's not on a lot of dynasty rosters, like super flex dynasty rosters. That's how far he has fallen. And now he could be a starter next year. Yeah, I mean he browns.

00:27:51
Speaker 1: He at least he had people had dropped him at some point in those super flex leagues, right yeah.

00:27:58
Speaker 2: Yes, not like now. Well, and I'm also thinking some of it in like best Ball super Flex.

00:28:04
Speaker 1: Oh I mean, yeah, I mean, I would I would assume that most competitive super flex leagues he's he's especially because he got.

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Speaker 2: A start this year, right the ones that have moves during the season, for sure, But the Browns have already reported they might go. They're looking at Willis as well as Tye Simpson. With the limited quarterbacks in this year's draft, especially get ready to learn Milike Willis QB one next season.

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Speaker 1: Oh, he's definitely going to be starting somewhere next year, and he's definitely going to be a late round fantasy target of mine because of the rushing ability. The problem is that, like I saw the report that Arizona is really keen that would destroy, destroy, Trey McBride, Marvin Harrison Junior, you know, Michael Wilson. Maybe destroys too harsh of a word, but look like like Trey McBride is awesome, but we also have to be realistic that he is a volume dependent player, as really good players generally are. But like when Malik Willis is under center, you're not gonna get nearly as much volume. Arizona's coming off a season where they led the NFL in pass attempts. I mean, they were the past heaviest team in the league last year, and now you're gonna go to Malik Willis where that's more than likely not going to happen, just because we've seen that happen in the past with mobile quarterbacks. So I don't want him to go to Arizona. You know. Could he go to like Miami would would kind of work from a fantasy perspective, because you know, Wattle's still there. Their thing. I mean, I've seen the rumors with Wattle too, but uh, you know Waddle.

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Speaker 2: Wattle said cap, He said, cap, what's that he's like the rumors that he wants to leave? He put a cap emoji and quoted that gott oh he's saying that's a lie.

00:29:47
Speaker 1: Well, but the thing is that at least in Miami you can funnel targets just I mean, like Jaylen Waddle could see a thirty one percent target Chare and no one would blink based on who's there right now. So that kind of situation would be good. I mean, you can go to Cleveland. It's not like there's much you can just dump it off to Harold Fannon all day. So yeah, I mean, like he's gonna get a starting gig he's gonna be mobile. We saw in a good system, good environment in Green Bay what he could do. So yeah, I'm I'm I'm excited to see what where where he lands. A. J.

00:30:18
Speaker 2: Brown not guaranteed to be back with the Eagles next.

00:30:22
Speaker 1: Year, not surprising, you know, but uh yeah, I mean, I I think that there was a slight drop off last year with with AJ Brown. I think we're on that side of his career. So the fact that these gms, but by the way, I think GM's are are pretty open at the combine, you know, with the way they think about the fact that like even like Ryan Poles I think said that they were they were open to trading DJ Moore, you know, like they're they're just saying these things, and so with AJ might be a.

00:30:53
Speaker 2: Game, but they're saying it out loud at least sure.

00:30:55
Speaker 1: I mean, like the fact that it's even like part of the right yes, yeah, when when he's not under contract, you know. But the AJ Brown stuff, I think that the Eagles are a smart organization. They know that he's on this other side of his of his career at this point, and uh, now would be the time to try to maximize that value. I think that a team like New England makes a lot of sense. But he did not get along at the time with Mike Rabel. Did you see that one clip or a J. Brown was saying, I can't remember what show it was, I was podcast, but he was saying that he would sit in meetings with Rabel and he would just say I hate Mike Rabel and he would write it down like he was taking notes. But he was just saying, I hate.

00:31:32
Speaker 2: Rabes a Titans fan.

00:31:34
Speaker 1: I no, I know, but I'm just saying, like he he he's very open about how he was immature and not in his right, you know, mindset when he was in Tennessee. So maybe I mean that it's a great fit from like a real football perspective, But yeah, I don't know. I don't know where where you know, where that'll go. I do think though, that he's not the same Aj Brown that he was two years ago.

00:31:56
Speaker 2: Buffalo Bill's great fit. Some are saying, as well, all right, Joe mixing. I don't know if he's mixing it up or not, because apparently he is still day to day. I don't know. It's such a weird situation. I asked this yesterday, but do you think Joe Mixon plays professional football?

00:32:14
Speaker 1: Again, I don't just based on what's going on here. I mean, we had we were pretty early on that last summer with the mix and stuff, which I was happy about, and that got us onto Woody Marks and best ball and stuff. You know, I think that we're already like they're already talking about maybe getting a big free agent back that's like Woody Marks is one of the classic reasons and classic players of what I talked about before, where za model scores at running back or more predictive of year two to four success than year one PPR points per game. Now that model didn't mind Woody Marx, to be clear, because he had a decent receiving profile and et cetera, et cetera. I don't think Mark is a bad player, but his his stock is going to tank if they get like Kenneth Walker or something, you know, if they if they go.

00:32:58
Speaker 2: Out for Jendarian Price, yeh, whoever.

00:33:00
Speaker 1: The case may be right, and so you know, be aware of that within the Dynasty market right now. But no, I don't think, I mean, at this point, I don't know why we'd feel confident that mix is gonna just all of a sudden play that I've never seen reporting. That's not reporting. The reporters are doing what they can, but never seen teams talk so oddly about an injury in my life. I mean, they're saying, like, I think he had surgery over the off season, but during the season, But I'm not, like you think, how do you not? Yeah, it's weird. It's just a weird situation in general. I mean, I hope he's okay, but I'm not very optimistic that he's that he's going to find the football field anytime soon.

00:33:41
Speaker 2: Today's data, all right, JJ, we got some breakout scores over fifty in this year's class.

00:33:49
Speaker 1: Yeah, so this is a lot smaller than last year's table or last year's last week's table where I talked about yards team adjusted yards per team play at running back and I had literally every running back in this year's class. Breakout scores more proprietary than the adjusted stuff that I do with yards per team play, And it's also a big, big driver within the model. So I don't want to give away too much for people who are, you know, supporting and purchasing the draft the prospect guide, but I will say this, so so breakout score itself is based on receiving yards per team pass attempt, and what it does is it looks at every player's season in college and it'll say, okay, this guy had this receiving yards per team pass attempt pro rated for games played, minimum six games played. It takes that number. It then adjusts that number for strength of schedule, and then there's kind of like levels to it. I don't want to call them thresholds because that's not exactly how the model looks at it, but there's a range. So like, if a player has a three point three receiving yards per team pass attempt rate, which is absurdly high, Okay, anything over three is really really good. Over two and a half is pretty good. Over two you should be getting. Under two, you're like, is this guy good? And so let's say guy had a three point three receiving yards per team pass attempt and that was adjusted for strength of schedule. Okay, and that player did that at twenty years old, that's absurd. He's gonna have probably a ninety nine percentile breakout score because it's a really really good combination of factors. But the cool thing about breakout score and what differentiates it from other breakout metrics like breakout age. Breakout age will say, Okay, this guy hit this dominator rating threshold at this age, so he broke out at this age. Nothing more. That was his breakout age. Doesn't matter what he does after that. He broke out here, That's all that matters. But what breakout score does is that it can still reward players who progress through their careers and get better numbers down the line. Now, if they have a crazy high adjusted receiving yards per team pass attempt is like a sophomore, they're probably not going to improve that score based on what they do as a junior and a senior because that score is just so so high. So Jordan tice And is a third year guy when he got his crazy numbers in twenty twenty four, he wasn't going to do much to change his breakout score in twenty twenty five, just the way the metric works. With that being said, a player like you know who doesn't do that much through the first two years of his career, but in the final two years he really really blows up. He can still look good within breakout score. You see right here on this list where the list of players, honestly, aside from Eric McAllister, are the top wide receivers in this year's class for the most part, right, these are guys who are over fifties. This is like a seventieth percentile or better breakout scores. You have Jordan Tyson with a ninety ninth percent tile. He's at a score of ninety five point one. Eric McAllister, who I talked about on the show earlier this week, he I guess it dropped yesterday and then if someone's listening to this on the feed, it dropped on Tuesday. But Eric McCallister from TCU had a score of seventy five, which is a ninety one point seven percentile breakout score. Now, breakout score in the model itself works in can junction with draft capital, So players in that that go on day three, their breakout score is not nearly as significant as players who go in like the top one hundred you know, first round, et cetera, et cetera. Historically, breakout score alone with top one hundred picks is basically as predictive as draft capital alone. Right, so you could ignore draft capital and just look at breakout score. It's just as predictive with top one hundred picks. So top one hundred picks here, Jordan Tyson obviously, McKay lemon, who's third in breakout score in this class, Carnel Tate, who's fourth. Casey Conceptsione who people I've seen people on Twitter on social media say that that analytics folks don't like Casey concepts you owe, because you know, he never had like a maxed out season, like a crazy high yards per out run season. I think he maxed out at like two point twenty five, which is fine but not great. You know, his receiving yards for team passing times had some question marks. Guys, that's not how any good modeler and analytical person should be looking at this stuff. There's a adjusted stuff you should be looking at, schedule adjusted. And with Casey concepcion, he was productive all three years in college, so he's being rewarded for that with a breakout score that ranks in the seventy seven percentile. Like he's a good, good prospect, he's a fringe elite producer within the model. And then lastly, it's Elijah Surat, who is a little bit controversial, I think just because some people think he has like separation issues and such. I'm probably more pro than con with Surrat. He has a really good breakout score. He got better every year of his collegiate career. Crazy journey for him. You know, he started at Saint Francis as a zero recruit. I think it was to James Madison. And you know, we had a conversation on Discord yesterday, and this is why I think people would love the Discords, because I you know, just hop in and we just have these these conversations. But there was talk about Surrat being tied to Mendoza and that being a big reason that he had such a big year this past year. Sure, I mean, like quarterback play is gonna matter. He didn't play with Mendoza throughout college. It was last year and so like, yes, last season looks good, but he he had two other seasons in his four years where he was over an adjusted receiving yards be team passing MPT of two point five. And there are only two other wide receivers in this class who did that, Jordan Tyson being one of them. And so I think Elijah Surratt is a really interesting prospect, a solid prospect, and you know, breakout score definitely shows that.

00:39:26
Speaker 2: Yeah, can conception. As we say, he he passed the eye test when you watched him play.

00:39:35
Speaker 1: I mean, he just dropped the ball a lot. That's the that's the problem with them. But I don't care about drops nearly as much as other people do.

00:39:42
Speaker 2: Yeah. The other thing.

00:39:43
Speaker 1: The other thing I want to say about breakout scores and stuff, because because someone saying to JJSA breakout scores don't matter for day threes. They they you know, like I said, this model is trying to predict and project and forecast how well players play during the first three years of their career. Okay, by doing that or in doing that, it's looking at history because that's how it can learn and look at what's gone on historically to figure that out. And if you look at day three wide receivers, they're not There aren't many of them that have been good in general, and so if there aren't many of them, they'll be good in general. It's not gonna overweight that stuff to be like, hey, Pookinakua was really really good on day three, So therefore other people who have similar profiles as Pook and Akua, we got to boost them up into the elite producer category because that's how that's called overfitting, and like that's just not what you want to do when it comes to modeling. Not only that, if you look at like like round four is still you get some correlation with breakout score and draft capital and such with these wide receivers. When you get into round five, round six, round seven, man there is it's a crapshoot. It's a total dart throw situation where draft capital doesn't even I don't care at all if a guy's a seventh round pick or a fifth round pick. I genuinely do not care because of what we've seen historically, and that's why it's a little bit harder to model those players. It's a combination of like draft capital not mattering, production profiles not mattering as much. And then on top of that, there's only like two or three guys that hit from those rounds to begin with. So that's why the model says what it does, and that's why I care so much more about top one hundred picks because that's where the money's made in fantasy football.

00:41:24
Speaker 2: Joe bo Bondi also said I'm still at the who stage with rooky names.

00:41:28
Speaker 1: I feel you.

00:41:29
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm kind of like, unless it's a unless it's a well known guy like Sarat I mean obviously played for Indiana, so if you watch those but like Eric McCollister.

00:41:38
Speaker 1: No one, no, I mean, but here's the thing.

00:41:39
Speaker 2: I thought it was like Kevin's little brother, you know, and home alone, Like I did not know who that was. And then I was like, oh, yeah, I remember playing him playing it.

00:41:47
Speaker 1: Here. Here's a really good thing for people to do to learn the class is to write a two hundred page pro and I'm just kidding. It's to go to NFL mock Draft database and and just look at the consensus big boards to see where these players are projected to get drafted. And then you're like, oh, I didn't realize that. You know, Dion Burks, who I didn't know that much about because I'm you know, I don't watch college football a ton, but like Deon Burks for instance, is projected to go potentially Day two, and so then you're like, oh, who is this guy that no one's really talking about that much, at least probably on fantasy podcasts and stuff. Well, I dug into it for the Prospect Guide. I His analytical profile is horrendous, like I don't really know why he's being projected as a Day two guy, or like Antonio Williams right out of Clemson, it's like, all right, he's a Day two pick being projected that way. What kind of wide receiver is he? That's what the prospect guide is kind of there for, is to tell you the kind of archetype that these guys are and whether or not their analytical profiles are good and that if we've seen players in history that are like that guy, the two guys that I mentioned, the model's not super super high on, but you can get a good you know, read on these names by just looking at big boards honestly, and then just go to their college reference page just see the raw production that they had and then see if you want, I mean, if you want to dig in more, you can look at receiving yards per team pass attempt. You can look at all you know, go to PFF and get a subscription there and get some cool yards pera run numbers. But yeah, I mean, like I I was in that phase literally a month ago, you know, learning learning these guys, and then I just learned them because I have to write profiles. Well, I say have to. I'm blessed to write.

00:43:23
Speaker 2: All of the profiles. Yes, privilege to yes for sure, the late round main event. All right, I have the privilege of unveiling the first year two wide receiver journey comps. And again, uh, you know, we we went into a yes last week, so we don't have to rehash it, especially with the time crunch that we have. But there is no particular order with this group.

00:43:52
Speaker 1: Correct. And again, journey comps are looking at zapp scores for these players, year two model scores for these players and finding guys who went through a similar journey. Okay, and so what I'm giving you is not their top three comps. I'm giving you a low median and high comp for each of these guys based on how they performed as prospects and then how they performed as year one players. We'll start with our boy front of the show. Yes, Tedero McMillan, T mack Uh. He gets a low end comp of Jordan Matthews.

00:44:23
Speaker 2: Uh.

00:44:23
Speaker 1: Which which, by the way, it's fitting that you're wearing the vand he hat J Matt, J Matt, J Matt, Yeah, J Matt. I don't think he was a good prospect and he had. He actually had some spikes in his NFL career.

00:44:34
Speaker 2: It just wasn't just just a little slow, a little slow. He had hands.

00:44:37
Speaker 1: Though. T Mac is not the same kind of player as that. His median outcome is Devonte Smith. His high end outcome is Justin Jefferson. Okay, the similarities for these guys aren't unbelievable the scores. But t Mac is a is a really good player. Like I'm very like in on t Mac. I think he's gonna have a great career. The only thing that the only question I have is more situa, you know, with Bryce Young and what that offense is really going to be able to provide for him. But the only rookie is to clear a twenty five percent target share in a one point eight yards per rout run. Since twenty eleven, he was he was a decent amount of above that, but it was OBJ, Mike Evans, Pokin Akua, Justin Jefferson, BTJ, neighbors, Drake London, Chris Alave, t Mac and then Kelvin Benjamin's in there too, So that's a really good group to be part of. This is my favorite t Mac stat though that I have in the year two write up for him in the Prospect Guide. His first down share was thirty two point four percent last year, So thirty two point four percent of their first downs went to Tetaroa McMillan. That was the fourth highest mark in Year two model history at wide receiver. The only players who are better Malik neighbors, Odell Beckham and Pukinakua. So I think the only thing stopping ted Rohe McMillan at this point is situation. I think that he's hitting the higher end of his prospect profile outcome, so he's he's in a good spot.

00:46:01
Speaker 2: Okay, let's go to the next one. Is Jayden Higgins.

00:46:04
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think that people probably are dismissive of Higgins because you know, it wasn't like he was like a staple in fantasy football. But the Year two model doesn't totally mind him. He's you know, these are the top six players in the Year two model. Again, no particular order. You can kind of probably project what the order is and what the scores are, but regardless, he had a respectable enough rookie season one point four or five yards per out run, a zero percent catch trade over expected. He was better than both Christian Kirk and Xavier Hutchinson and yards per out run EPA per target catch trade over expected all while having an a dot over twelve yards. He was seeing down the field looks, so he was able to do all that stuff you know, down the field and having a more comprehensive like, you know, depth with his with each target. He reached an eighty percent round share three times last year in those three games, eleven point nine, ten point three and thirteen point four PPR points per game. Now, that's not gonna win you leagues, But as a rookie, uh, you know, with a very questionable offensive line and a questionable quarterback, I think that Jayden Higgins had a pretty solid year. I don't think that he's a stud. Is His low comp is Doriol Green Beckham. Don't think we're gonna hit that. His median one was Michael Pittman, and then his high end one was Devonte Adams. I think I think a Michael Pittman like career, maybe without the consistent volume, is definitely in play for Jaden Higgins.

00:47:37
Speaker 2: Okay, that was kind of like the appetizer Jayden Higgins was, uh and and Ted you know that was that was this tax oh Ted ted Row yes, t Mac Yeah, sorry for end of the show. We can't.

00:47:51
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's like calling me like like my real name, my real name, which.

00:47:55
Speaker 2: We're not going to right now. But this guy, we are going to his full name because this is what people want, this with their tune in for a Mecca Buka JJ.

00:48:08
Speaker 1: Yeah.

00:48:08
Speaker 2: Look, talk about a roller coaster season last year.

00:48:12
Speaker 1: I'll give you the low median and high comps. The low comp is Kendall Wright, who he actually does comp relatively favorable to. You can go look at Kendall Wright's rookie season numbers and are not as bad as you think. Uh Median Jordan Addison, which I think is probably fair. High end is DeAndre Hopkins, right, so he just becomes a stud in a year in year out wide receiver one to two in fantasy football. I looked into this because his season was so bizarre a Mecca Buca where first six weeks of the year he's like a wide receiver, easy wide receiver, one winner, yeah, yeah, league winner, and then he's completely worthless from a fantasy perspective. From then on out. There really are not any comps at all. Since twenty eleven of players who did what he did to start and then finish. The one that was closest was probably like Calvin Ridley, but it still doesn't come close to what happened with a Mecca Buca. But look like you can't just look at like, you know, this set of games and this set of games, so you gotta look at the bigger picture and over that bigger picture, a Mecca Buca had a one point seventy five yards perou run rate. He had a target share just under twenty four percent. He had the second most first downs among this wide receiver class. There are eight wide receivers within three points of a Mecca Buca's year two scorer who had yards perou runs as rookies above one point six. Those eight wide receivers are a Rob DJ Moore, DK Metcalf, Terry McLaurin, Chase Claypool, Aman Ross, Saint Brown, Rashid Rice, and Ze Flowers. So there's a lot of good surrounding a Mecca Buka from from a comp perspective and what we've seen historically, I'm still in like, I think he's good. I don't think he's a screaming value in dynasty because he's ranked pretty high in Dynasty, right but I would take him over Romadunze in Dynasty right now.

00:50:01
Speaker 2: Roma Doonza had a teammate that is like the opposite he ended on a high note and that Smith miss mister miter Luther Burden.

00:50:13
Speaker 1: Yeah, look, you guys know that I'm a big Luther Burden guy. His low comp was we Shot Bateman Median Brandon Cooks high was Jackson Smith and Jigba. That high comp though the similarity isn't like absurdly good. The one thing I'll say, though, is that a lot of his comps are just very solid. They're like in that Brandon Cooks type range right where it's just like the you know, Brandon Cooks was a wide receiver two for a lot of his career, like a very very strong career from a fantasy perspective. But here's the real, Like this is just what's real. I talked about this in the Mailbag episode. But he failed to reach a seventy percent target our route share in a single game last year. He averaged eight point six PPR points per game. Only twenty wide receivers with fewer than ten PPR points per game as rookies in the year two model went on the score fourteen or more PPR points in years two, three or four, right, So there's not a ton of precedent for this kind of profile. With that being said, his yards broout Romo was two point six y nine, third best among wide receivers with one hundred and more routes behind Obj Martabis Bryant. You just have to do some projecting with Luther Burden period, end of story. You have to say to yourself, how did he look as a prospect? Did we think that he could be more than a slock guy?

00:51:25
Speaker 2: I did.

00:51:26
Speaker 1: I loved his profile right because he had that crazy peak as a sophomore. And then you have to just project and say, I trust this scheme, I trust this offense. And there's a chance that DJ Moore is no longer on the Bears, as we talked about earlier. So I'm still bullish on Luther Burden. You know, you can see his comps there. It's not all butterflies and rainbows. You have to take a chance sometimes. You got to take a chance in dynasty. You know it's not gonna work out every time, but if you if you're at least thoughtful about it, it'll work out more often than not.

00:51:56
Speaker 2: Ben Johnson was at the podium at the Combine saying he can't wait to see what Burden and Colston Lovelan their study with a full year.

00:52:07
Speaker 1: Colten Lovelan is a is A is a stud period I will I can go out like I will stand on that and say I feel way more comfortable about Colston Lovelan at his position than Luther Burden at his only because I think Holston Lovelan is that good. It has nothing to do with Luther Burton. It's just there's more variant. Like I, Colston Lovelin I think is a legit, bonafide stud.

00:52:30
Speaker 2: I would just say any sort of positive speak that comes out of Ben Johnson regarding Luther Burden I'm here for because it was like kind of the opposite at the beginning of last year.

00:52:40
Speaker 1: Ye to me, I really truly think that it was a match made like this is where landing spot matters a lot. I don't know if Luther Burton's doing this in another spot, but I think that Ben Johnson's offensive scheme in mind and being able to scheme guys open the way that he does, on top of his kind of like no nonsense mentality. I think it's good for Burden, who you know, people quite I don't no Burden personally, but people question his off the field stuff entering the league and whether but like it seems like the match has really really been there between Johnson and Burden, and that's what gets me excited too.

00:53:14
Speaker 2: Okay, you might not be so excited about the next guy if if you drafted him with any sort of high draft pick in last year's drafts, it's Matthew Golden.

00:53:24
Speaker 1: Yeah, so his low I'll be honest. Okay, Golden's Golden's like high, like best comps are are pretty rough. kJ Hammler is the low one here Median as Ricky Pierson high ends DeVante Adams, so he did get Adams similar to Jaydan Higgins, which you know makes sense because Higgins entering the league didn't have like if you if you look at Higgins and his he had ninety six point one with with DeVante Adams and and Matthew Goldens at ninety five point eight, so relatively similar. And part of that is because Matthew Golden was overdrafted by this according to ZAP model, where he went Jayden Higgins was kind of neutral, just kind of like, yeah, he's fine, and so theo's app scores weren't that that different. And then you know, Golden was a worst producer in year one, But that's why you're getting a similar comp there, because the year one numbers aren't doing that much work for Jayden Higgins, like he went like off. You know, as as a first year player, you do have to remember that last year, Matthew Golden entered as an overrated prospect, like there were reasons to believe that it might not be the biggest deal in the world. But his production profile was lacking, and you know, there's a lot of recency bias going on with how he finished his season versus how good he actually was. And if you look at history now and where we're at among all year two wide receivers, we failed to reach seven PPR points per game as rookies, So Golden was at five point three. Only seven scored fourteen or more PPR points per game, and year's two, three and four. Two of those guys were Randall Cobb and Chris Godwin, who had elite yards per hour runs as rookies, right, they just weren't seeing the volume and then the other guys they weren't players that we really thought of as like year in, year out, you know, studs in fantasy football. Is one point three five yards per run rate not good but not the worst that we've seen. My my biggest question though, because I think that when you match his low points per game, and like for a rookie, a relatively okay enough, it's not good, but one point three five yards per run, that just tells you why didn't they use him more? You know, and you could sit there and say, well, they have all this guy. The competition was hurt for a lot of the year, whether it be Christian Watson or Jaden Reid.

00:55:32
Speaker 2: Uh.

00:55:33
Speaker 1: I just I'm very concerned about Matthew Golden's profile. If you want to buy in shore, you know, it's it's not like gonna burn youard your dynasty rosters. But this is the kind of player that if you can sell for a reasonable price, I think it's it's a it's a decent thing to do.

00:55:49
Speaker 2: Just tell whoever you're selling to that he scored a touchdown in the playoffs, so you just you know, I.

00:55:55
Speaker 1: Mean, had a good playoff game. I think that he's like capable of those spiked weeks. Still, I just don't know if we're gonna see the consistency, especially within that offense. Like that's my fear. Like I know that me saying that he's a sell. If Week one comes around and he has like a one hundred and five yard game on six catches and a couple scores or something, I'll hear it. But I just don't think that's gonna be the thing that we see week in and week out from a player of this archetype.

00:56:21
Speaker 2: Okay, speaking of archetype, we've got a weird one with this one.

00:56:29
Speaker 1: Yeah, low end, Tevon Austin, median end, Quentin Johnston and al Sean Jeffery. Look, I mean, look does that model do you?

00:56:39
Speaker 2: Guys?

00:56:39
Speaker 1: Do you remember the conversations I had with people last year I was Hunter's analytical profile and like it just wasn't there, But I myself, I excused it. And this is why I'm never gonna do something like this again. Where I made way too many excuses where there.

00:56:55
Speaker 2: Might not be something like this again.

00:56:57
Speaker 1: You're not going to That's why I didn't know what to do, and that's why people in the guide whenever I ranked these guys. If you read the blurbs, it's like, you know, play it safe with tenor Roe McMillan, or if you want to really shoot for the moon, go with Travis Hunter. But there were questions about his profile. Now, I thought before I even called him a bye, right before he got hurt, right and I thought he was going to take over as their wide receiver won in that offense during the second half of the year, and then he obviously got hurt, and that led to them not only Parker Washington emerging as a legit threat, but them trading for Jacoby Myers and signing him. So now you situationally, you have three really good wide receivers and Brian Thomas junior, Parker Washington, and Jacoby Myers, and there's already all this stuff going on about him playing more corner next year. Is one point three two yards per our run? Wasn't that great? You know? Even the one of the arguments for Travis Hunter was that he was so good at wide receiver that when he's on the field, they'll just hyper target him. When he is on the field, he had a twenty percent targets PERU run rate this past year. That's not that's not special. Like, like I said earlier, Luther Burton was at like twenty five percent. So I'm I am very concerned. I mean I had I had Travis Hunter as a cell a month ago on the Cell Candidate's episode. These last two guys I both had cells. I don't know what the market is saying about Hunter right now, but I am definitely concerned about him in fantasy football. There's no doubt.

00:58:21
Speaker 2: And again, if you go back and look, people still cling to that last game he had before he got hurt. If you go back and look at where those catches happened, it was in garbage time.

00:58:31
Speaker 1: A lot of it was garbage time.

00:58:32
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and there were.

00:58:34
Speaker 1: Some there were some plays in that game that were that were pretty great. But yeah, I mean, like he's.

00:58:39
Speaker 2: An athlete, he's a free I mean, he's a freak of nature is when it comes to like playing two positions. But if he made position.

00:58:46
Speaker 1: But but look, if he were a full time wide receiver, yeah, obviously his dynasty stock would rise. Right, he would be and he would probably still be somewhat of a cell because because of that, like thinking about that, right, because I just don't think there's enough evidence right now analytically that tells us that Travis Hunter is a special talent or a special player. There's far more evidence of Luther Burden, of a Mecca Buca, of obviously Tedoro McMillan. You know, then there is Travis Hunter. So if he were playing full time wide receiver, and if he were hypothetically being ranked between a Mecca Buca and Luther Burden in Dynasty, I'd call him a cell then too. I mean, that's all straw man. I have no idea exactly where he would be ranked and such, but yeah, I mean I think that there's enough evidence of like this looking more negative than positive, you know, moving forward? Good stuff.

00:59:39
Speaker 2: Jj uh. That will wrap up the year two journey comps for wide receivers again, we'll have lots more info in the uh in the prospect guy he said, uh so we will U that was an accidental click.

01:00:03
Speaker 1: You're just you're just getting so hype to move on.

01:00:05
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we're we're we're ending it. But but the Year two prospect guide, we have the year two prospects, we have rookies in the prospect we have Dynasty rankings, all that stuff. Yeah, so look for to see. Yes, Rookie Draft rings.

01:00:25
Speaker 1: Up rankings are on the Patreon Yes, yeah.

01:00:30
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, sorry about that. Also, you can't I don't think you could hear it. But whatever I said triggered Alexa in the in the family room and they were just like it's blaring. It was like talking about something. I don't know what it was. So it's like getting me off off kilter.

01:00:46
Speaker 1: But yeah, let's let's wrap this up.

01:00:48
Speaker 2: JJ again, special thanks to for DraftKings of the early best ball stuff going on right now. Any closing thoughts from you, No.

01:00:57
Speaker 1: I'm excited for the combine and we'll we'll talk more cop buying on the show. Basically, next week is just a combine week for analysis with Late Round.

01:01:06
Speaker 2: You're gonna be just hold in on Saturday.

01:01:10
Speaker 1: I am, I will be around, I'll be on social, I'll be in the discord talking common.

01:01:17
Speaker 2: Good stuff. Can't wait for it. Appreciate everyone for tuning in, for leaving comments against interactive show, so feel free to leave some feedback and we'll see you next time here on the Late Round Fantasy Football show sponsored by DraftKings. Peace