DJ QUIK | Ep 173 | ALL THE SMOKE Full Episode | SHOWTIME Basketball

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Speaker 1: Welcome back all the smoke. Jack has been a great run this week, and who better to close it out with then? I'm excited about this one. Man. This is someone I looked up to for a long time, became friendship maybe about ten years ago, twelve years ago, and man, one of the greatest to ever do it. Legend, Welcome to the show, the legendary DJ Quick. We're in the building. My God, don't be shy about sharing any kind of storage because I know you got so many motherfucking stories, So just don't be shy. Like I want to hear a couples like I ain't never told knowing this. I want to hear a couple one up that would have rolled them one up. I want to hear one of those. Yeah, I want to hear those. Man. We connected back when do we? We went? So? When I was a Laker, I had a charity golf tournament and I had him and John B come perform, and that ship was that ship was sucked up and then we smoked all night and then we've been cool ever since. Yes, sir, what's up? Man? Withepen up too? Man? Long Nights, Short Days Studio. Yeah, I just did a rehearsal last night from my band performing Yoshi's Tomorrow Night checking February February twenty fourth. So tomorrow night I got, you know, kicking off my touring year tomorrow. So okay, I was in there whipping everybody in the shape. Uh at this point, do you love performing as a rapper or back or or DJ? It's all the same. I mean, you know, I'm a DJ and a rapper. You know. I just learned to fire elements of hip hop from Dougie Fresher last week. WHATDJ and his number one? Two is the MC, three is graffiti, four is breakdancing, and fifth is the human beat Box five elements of hip hop? Yeah, I was like, word, what's your break? What's your breakdance? Game? Like, I'm all broken up. I can't do this shit, It's not gonna happen. So you talk about your tour this summer. Where where are you beheaded? Um? Everywhere? All over? Yeah, it's gonna be a busy year for me on the road. UM, my agents calling me every you know, every day. Sam, we just added another chen shows who am And now I'm starting to look at it like, you know, first I was like, yeah, money get to get and I was like more aspering, I'm hung over this long hung over these long nights. Break can't do sixteen hours no more. That's a long day for anybody. Uh Man, We're gonna get right to him. Man. Top five your your top five producers in the game all time producer, rapper, comp just producer. We get both are there five? I know me Dre and Kanye Okay, then gold producer producer hip hop, uh Battlecats, Niche and very important Um and Marley, Maa j Morlly Mall. A lot of people don't shout him out, but you know how to make it music with your mouth biz. You know verbs President, most important hip hop breakers in my life, shout out Tomorrow born and raised. Then com Upton, Sir, talk about your growing up in the in the content. Um Compton was cool until Crack came in and it became them. It became Beirut, became Vietnam Bros. Most angel's placed in the world. I mean, how do you automatically be a target as soon as you come out of your house because of where you live. That's why I got I got DJ equipment and I stayed in the house to scratching and mixing and making tapes and getting drum machines and on the keyboards. You know, look the ghost of Compton getting me out. He's talking. But yeah, I know, it just became pretty like it was surreal to the point where either you stayed in the house or you joined the gang so you could go outside. And I didn't want I didn't want no parts of it. I'll stayed with my music and then got guilty by association for being in the industry. Coming from Compton. It was like they automatically I was a gangbanger, Like I'm a DJ bro. I like getting people together. I like seeing girls and guys dance. I see guys and girls dancing. You know what I'm saying, Like on the floor, that's my thing. Bring people world. A gang banger, man the let I'm too smart to be a gang banger. A matter of fact. Often say I wouldn't have been the gang banger. I would have ran the game. Yeah yeah, I would have been the leader. Yeah. But you know, people say what they say, it was just it was it was. It was when it was good. It was good. You know, a lot of happy times, a lot of cool times. Um. The art of the house party, you know was the thing, like, you know, who could throw the coolest house party? You know? Before that got dangerous. It's almost like it became to a point where people was mad at you celebrating. You know what I mean? They hated a party. Who hates a party? What kind of jealous envywere shit? Is that? You know? Whatever? You know? Who are some of your early influences in music? Um, easily Curtis Mayfield or how Players always one of my music to sound like Curtis Mayfield, Um, how Players? Uh, Parliament funka delic boots he Roger Truman, his app you know, all the fun music, all that loud slap clapp it had claps and slaps in it and you know, funny vocals, was some special effects that was. I loved it. I know you was a kid, so I know you wasn't doing music all the time when you when when you was away from way from music, what you was doing. I know he's a Laker fan? Oh yeah, of course, who wasn't a Laker fan? Um? I wasn't into sports, believe it or not. You know, there was people that made that their thing. And I go out there if I lost the game. I'd be mad and ready to kick the ball over the schoolhouse, you know what I mean. I was one of them dudes. I didn't get into that into sports until after I blew up and started playing like a little celebrity basketball game. So you know, Homies was showing me little techniques. You know. Well, I'm like, stop looking at the ball when you dribble. I was that guy make sure they don't go nowhere. Yeah. Right, I got to a point to where it started. Something started happening. I started busting Nigga's asses celebrity basketball games. It got fun. So I broke my fingers. Ball crushed your ship. Fuck me back to piano and break your fingers there. Talk about how important your mom is to you and uh and to your career. You know you talked about you told a story about how she kept you home the night of the Tyson fight. Um yeah, the you know, the the big bad death Row. Guys came to my house to you know, get me to go to the fight, and I don't want to. Guard just felt something. It was like instinct. I went to the studio. So they had my house knocking on the door. Tell moms, you know, hey, we know he in there, tell him suld want him to come to the fight, trying to bring his bitch ass outside. You know, they should talk so disrespectful. My mom said, if y'all don't unasked that dough, I'm gonna have the police are here in like five minutes. She wasn't at it, and I wasn't even there. She's like, you know, she's mom with the finger, you know what I mean? And sure enough that was a night the tuparc got killed. She you know, you can't old creole women. They know too much. M hm. They instinct, they instinct, they get to they know, they just feel it. Yeah, they just it's a good feeling for them. She always told me to follow your first mind. Yeah that was I'm naming my album after. Like, the new album is called Qusic Fuchas. My mom was a pimp, motherfucking right ship. Early nineties hip hop is all over the place. Yeah. Did you know that when youre creating your sound that it would be a sound that last standard test of time? Uh? No, I didn't, Honestly, I was just doing it as a means to an end. I just wanted a car, you know, I want the Jetta and put some rams on on the Jetta low ambitions gold. I bought a gold Jetta l Yep, that was I got it, like killing, That's all I wanted. You know this, Alb'm gonna tell about a thousand copies because I got out of there. We were talking about this last night men and exhibit a problem. How you know, I was selling cassettes like I got out of the whole dope game, trying to hustle, you know, cracker what not. It's like this, this ain't for me. I don't like doing this to my people. So I turned the hustle into making cassettes and music and selling them, you know, hand to hand. And it just it overwhelmed me that people really wanted these cassettes. I was personalizing and putting certain people's names in them, and it'd be like, let me buy the whole box. So I gotta sit up here and make duplicates of cassettes. Like I ain't cut off of this, you know, I said, one hundred cascettes. I'm tired. Even though I made money off of them, I'm like, you know, that's real work. Back then, Oh my god, I need a deal. Somebody else got to do this because I had to demand people was buying my coscesses, and people was telling me that, hey man, they got your people playing your music in Salt Lake City. I'm like, get the funk out of here. Here where in Salt Lake City? I mean exactly. But the cassette just started moving across the state lines by itself, people dubbing it and passing it on, and you know that, I had a little reputation with the little cassettes. Then I did this one called the Red Tape with my boys Second and None MG, and it blew. So I was selling a bunch of them. I was hand writing all of them, like we had no distributors. So I go by the blank cassettes, get this duplication machine and just run them off and put the little sticker on them and write our names on it. You know, they know about stamping and you know, printing press. All that were just doing it by hand by hand, you know, hand to hand. And you know, I ended up buying all the equipment that I wanted and it was cool, but I didn't know it was going. I didn't always gonna go platinum. I'm like, you know, people like it, um. But then I started writing songs about everything we was experiencing. So I was just the voice of us, us being the youth, us being who we were at that time, and it resonated with a lot of people. Songs like Tonight, Sweet Black Pussy, you know, Born and Raising. Comping them songs, it made sense people could relate, and so passed a little thousand copies. One of my home boys used to work at the World House Records in Inglewood, and my record debut on January seventh, nineteen ninety one, so we called up there to see how I was doing. He said, Bro, you sold out. He said, it showed out. All your album sold out on one day, like we gotta order again. I was like, okay, all right, so they know they're telling me, like, dude, you're nominated for American Music Award. I got to meet Dick Clark, nominated for American Music Award on my first single, shot a cool video, you know what I mean, twenty mm Freshman Show. It was. It was. It was a lot to take in, bro, But you know my thing is I just wanted to be DJ quick. I wanted to be behind the scenes, just DJ for like penas players clicking second and then and AMG whatnot. They just kept pushing me out front. It's like whatever, you know, the anxiety, and a lot of people don't know. It's like, you know, I produced like three albums albums in my first year, you know, as a debut artists, I was. I stayed in the studio. I missed you know, I missed a lot of touring because I just wanted to stay in the studio and just keep hashing out, you know, keep creating the sound, you know, as as best as you can. Because this is one of my favorite songs too. Can you take uh chake us like to the studio with you making tonight? The night you made this the song? What was what was the vibe like in the studio that night? It was UM I did at a house two thousand and one Brown and Brown and Avenue in La Like the whole scene looked like the boys in the Hood movie. It was that kind of house in a little kitchen nook um sp twelve hundred. I was producing my boy player Ham at the time, and you know I sampled that beat one of the um one of the home. You brought that album over and I remember that that clear album, but it was just hard to find at that point, somebody found it, let me use it. I sampled it and just kept looping it and um, you know, did the drums to it and just kind and let it just you know, back then we let the beat just run for like a whole day. Yeah, yeah, till you hear to you hear some inspiration. Um. At this time, I'm nineteen, and we experimenting with you know, eight ball old English eight hundred and weed and shooting dice and stuff. So I'm like, this is what is this is what's what's fun. So I just started writing about that shit right and um, during the um the writing of it, I came up with the hook. You know, you know, i'm playing records. I'm just using what I got basically, and I had a you know Betty Wright record Tonight is the Night, so us sample it tonight and scratch it in Tonight's the Night, spending back, you know, keep working on it until it's on beat and um third verses open player. Hamp didn't want to get on it. It was like, go ahead and finish it, that's you. Um, So the homie Shaney comes over with some gin and this is before you know, it was drinking hard. Look, it was just you know, a beer. At that point, my man was like boom, like you know, poor the big bumpy face with the super socco was drinking and drinking it drinking. I'm like, man, this is bomb. You know. This is before I knew there's a limit. It's like, it's so it's sweet goodna be all right? Bad news man too good? Hit it again and I started spinning and start tripping. They said, you know that, you know, Homi, just have to tell you what you was doing last night. He was like, I did what I did? What you know that ships to you? He just had one of those last night. Yeah, thanks for Jean. So I'm like the next day, I'm like, oh man, I got the flu. I thought I had the flu. It was a hangover. Fuck is this We had to go in there and hug that chilly and get rid of that ship like and I was like, I ain't never drinking again. Ever, I was cool and I didn't for a while, but that ended up being the last verse. I just wrote it still like hungover wrote that shit. I just it was like I documented it right there as soon as they come with doing the same old thing to me. That's what happened. It was like you gotta get you gotta get your your choler and choler is what are these words y'all talking about? You know what I mean? So that's that's that was the story. I ended up recording the song, put it on the mixtape and everybody loved it, you know. So, and it was dirty. It had real hood references, you know, because I was grinding me back there. I was mentioning all the niggas with their surnames. They had blood in their name, cripping their name, you know, this nigga loke and all this, putting their whole name in it, like yeah, keeping it real, you know what I'm saying. So I had to clean that ship up for the radio, and I did. I just switched it right over. How did you come up with her name? Quick did? Quick? Um? It was DJ quick Mix at first because I was just quick Mix, quick Mix, and this girl started calling me cake mix, jam going mix. I dumped her after I fucked her a couple of times. Man, I just shorten that. Ain't nobody gonna come me down. I dropped the MXX. It was over. It really happened, um, but yeah, it was you know, I used to blend records real quick, and I was happy about that. Like I learned to get you know, my little turntape skills is up there. So you know, you gotta such a unique sound. When did you really felt like you found your sound? Um? On my third album, basically, um, safe and Sound. I was like, my shit is just funk jazz and high pitch rapping young voice over this ship. That's what it was to me. So Um, the first album is everybody says their favorite. I'm glad for that album. I mean, my debut album went platinum, which was rare back then. Who goes you have to cross over to go platinum? I mean, Maze wasn't just going platinum like that, even though everybody knew that music. So I crossed over a little bit, you know what I mean. Um, But it was definitely the third album and then the fourth album when I met Elders, I just wanted to experiment and you know, try different stuff, you know. So Rhythmllism was experimental, but that's what you're safe and sound. I got a chance to just stretch out in the studio, have fun, rap, get anybody who I wanted on there at that point. You know, it was like when you get your first goal plaque, your first platinum plaque. It's like life changes. You know. I got got a chance to buy every piece of equipment that I wanted, every motorcycle I ever wanted, dirt bike when I was a kid, every RC. It was like I got kids that I wanted as a kid. That was That was fun until my badass nephews came and destroyed all that ship. But that's how it happens, you know what I'm saying. You know, Nigga's a tariff ship when it there. So there's a rumor that your first project, quick is the name. You put that together pretty fast. What was that process? Like? Um, living that living with the Homeboys player him. Now, we was just I was just sampling everything that don't want to sample, like, you know, putting everything in the drum machine, record and learning how to record over dubbed like all self taught, you know what I mean. And it became I got into the habit of it. You know, I didn't realize I was just being ocd about it, but now you know, it's word for it. I was just like, it's gotta be perfect, it's gotta be perfect. So I spent a lot of time, you know, making records perfect and then trying to follow that pattern to keep making records as perfect as I could, you know. But yeah, it didn't take no time to do that album. As a matter of fact, I got the record deal before the album was even done, and I was the first million dollars signing of any hip hop artists in history. Like I broke the million dollars mark, you know what I mean, which was fucking epic to me. You know what I mean. I mean, you know, they go from making two hundred dollars bro a week to fucking ten thousand dollars a night on stage. It's just I got addicted to making more records. I wanted to. I wanted that to never stop because I was like, you know, I knew big then this shit ain't gonna last forever, so let me hit strike while the iron is hot, keep going. Ice Cube kept his foot on everybody's neck with these dope records. I'm competing with Ice Q for radio spots and touring and stuff, and then I'm helping him tour with like doing tour support for Cube and the America's Most Wanted record was. It was amazing, Bro, I was. I kept trying to take equipment on the road, but you know, the road is hard, so it was destroying all my shit. And I never could balance that. I don't think anybody can balance recording and touring at the same time. Where you just go from the show right to a studio. It's like there's two different mindsets. That's one thing I can never do. I regret, you know, but it's tough. But hey, it was. It was fun back then, man, I had I had legs for it. Now I ain't know that. I ain't got all the energy. Like I'm still reeling from a fourteen hour session last night, Like this is all ships, all this shit right now it seemed like a dream to me. Is all just I hit him on FaceTime earlier. He didn't put Matt, what's up. I was like, Oh, you had a long night? Humh Bro. He's like, can we push it back a little? Yeah, come on quick, you know we got you Come on, man, yeah, we got a couple more. I was asleep. I'll put that little eye patch on. Shit. I'm like, man, now too, you know what I'm talking about. But yeah, no, man, thank you for having me man. You know I'm a fan of all the smoke, loveall y'all met y'all gave me one of the best interviews ever when y'all did Magic Johnson bro Man, you made that. It was an epic night though. Yeah, man, come on, you was out there, DJ man. That was such a special night. But you know, I just tried to put it together and always pressure. I mean to get one legend in the sports realm and then get a legend from La in the music realm. That was It was a beautiful night. Yeah, we appreciate you, pretty increple. Yeah, So y'all want to hear some stories that y'all never heard before? Yes, Um, you know, well, I don't guess I could talk about some of this stuff now. You know. I was the kind of guy who was into like I've listened to Luther Evangel's records and all this shit, you know what I mean, And that's that's what I wanted that, you know, you know, a relationship a girl, white picket fence, you know what I mean. Until I got my heart broken, right, so I like, fuck these bitches. I'm crying and ship all day long and shit soaking up pillows. The homeboys like play out, you just have to meet somebody else. There's plenty of fishing to see. I'm like, man, fuck, do get the fun? You should do that shit to me. I'd't gonna douced me to somebody that night. I was like, Okay, ain't too man. So I became a player. That's officially when it started. Yeah, I got my heartbroke. I'm like, I can't deal with that. That that's the worst pain ever for me. When going through that exactly, I'm like, I ain't that ugly shit and be breaking my heart. So bro um, you know, we start having like some little fun times and you know, it was like what was fucked up? Is right when I come of age? Right when you know I'm not a virgin no more? Like it's frona damn Paul HIV just hit the nude. It's like, what the fuck is that? Fuck scared the funk out of everybody. Bigga was like, oh man, you mean you could just die after having sex with the girls. Like I was mister condom man. But when that fucking record came out, it was tough to put on that many condoms. No, we went to fucking uh, what was it? Back then, right, there was it right there, the thrifties. We go to thrifties and buy big gass boxes of Trojans, right and keep them on the tour bus. But these the niggas I was touring with, they was heating this. These motherfuckers was like three four girls a night. I'm like, way out, man. Then I fell into it. We fucking three and four girls a night for real, like rotating these base in the tour bus. Yeah. They terrible influence on the tour bus. We backstage. I was even I was performing in Houston one night, hooked up a little chick and shit, and you know, Tevin Campbell's out performing and I miss judged the time and shit. So I'm in the in the green room, the green right, It's like, hey, you know what I'm saying. I'm in full stroke. Man. They like coming to the stage right now, legend from Compton, California, give it up for check, quick call my close up and wrinkled and ship with probably performed with the condom. Okay, I'm like, bust it, you know what I mean? It was, Yeah, it was. It was a lot of that though. Man, Like all the stories you're about, Easy Girls was on it. Man, it was pretty girls too. Like it was a different time too, because you didn't really have to worry about the cameras and everybody being on your business. So we just did what you wanted to do. It was just a word against hers, yeah, but no cameras, none of that. Back then. It was you know, just young fun while ship. But there was a lot of young fun while ship going on as it should be. You know, I eventually grew out of it. What what what effect did NWA have on Compton and the West Coast? From your oh man, they to see their name on a record first of all, a record album and a cover, that shit is just unreachable, Like nobody's gonna be like this. We ain't never This ain't gonna never happen for us. But to see made you know, distributed by Ruthless Records, Compton, California. It's like, and these records are selling these records is you know, we subscribe to that shit. And it made it to where I felt like I could make it too. He he did something bro and then it end up being friends with him and he come into my house and I'm going to his house. It was just you know, it was unreal bro, like any easy Strongly and the chocolate factory. Bro. It's like, yeah, man, he used to kick it, bro. We used to kick it tough. You know. He used to like my sister. They used to hang out a little bit. Um. He took me to Guns and Roses concert, my first rock and road concert at the Forum, and I'm running around looking for him, like where Ego? Where Ego? I go in the bathroom here and there with a blonde shake on the toilet, like, get I'm on in here quick man. You listen. You hear his voice, man, challenge you. It's like, come on end. It's like, man, I aren't too scared. I don't want my booty out in public. Brother, quick getting fine? Good, get in here. You know. Yeah, but we used to hang out a lot. Man. He used to come to the studio. He signed my group, so I'm always in the studio with him and took all that ship for granted. He would always bring his fancy new sports cards to the studio and just blow our heads off with the ship, like come on, get in the car, man, check this out. My dumbas getting the car, and I'm like like a fucking grand Thereso and they had a fifty for they were popular. Anybody even knew what it was, you know, the Little the Z, the three fifty Z love Speed Bro Fly dude, man, No nobody was flying to him. I mean just sharp, smart and just fly. All the these loved him, you know what I mean. Period. You know it's that guy man that the fun died when he died, bro, Yeah it got weird. Yeah. What's the disadvantages and advantage of being an artist and a producer? Um, I don't really see the disadvantages. I mean the advantages is that you get a bigger piece of the pie when you do everything. That's what my thing was, just like I want the lion share. I want you know, splitting no money man, I mean shit, I'm want it all, you know. And sometimes when you do all of it the disadvantages, you can get burnt out too, because it's there's no input from nobody else. Sometimes you run out of fresh ideas. So you know, I've had that happen where you know, I was just doing an album for the sake of doing the album, and that's that's no good. You guys still have some motivation, something to drive you and something to say at the same time. So I guess there's a disadvantage of just fucking just kind predicting myself. So yeah, there is a disadvantage. And that's that's it. If anything, where you know, you can get bullheaded and don't let nobody else in and and the shit don't sell as much as you think. And you know, I deserved that. You know, he's got to keep an open mind about it and then delegate, you know, um chat and chorge to other people and make it make sense. Roger Trouting Man the god brother Man, coolest man in the world. Y'all don't understand man so talented he could just he was so talented that I called him crazy one time, like you know, and that's a compliment. His brother Larry got mad at me, said he ain't fucking crazy. What are you talking about. I'm like, no, you don't understand what I'm saying, Like, he's so talented. Bro's like, fuck that, come on, let's go, Roger, let's go. He said, no, man, I want to stand chill with the brothers. Manim kicking with the brothers. So were Um. We did a couple of shows together. He came to my dressing room and me and my guitar player was in there, Robert Bacon, at the same time, and rob is the greatest guitar player ever. My man came in there and started talking to us and was playing a Gibson and he was playing like two thousand and one Space Odyssely on the while he was talking to us. Right, no, right, like he's playing how you feel like a you know what I mean. So me and Bacon is like, we're sitting up there like what the fuck is this? So then he took the guitar and put it in Baker's hand, and Baker started playing it, and I was like, damn this nigga just showed Bacon up like he really is the greatest guitar player there is. Right, so cool. He'd be talking like Daffy Duck, you know, the loosing up the tension. If Niggas was you know, you know, a little trepidation about you know, the show taking too long or you know, people on, he'd be He's just just the coolest human being ever. And the talent, just the way he made music. He called him Curly Ques, the way he bent notes, like when he would do the talk box or played guitar like the guitar and computer love like nobody can do that shit, nobody, you know, And and trust me, that loss was felt when he got the news that he died. This was just after we just did you know, Tupac's album and we were just in the studio like a few years before that. It was and let me know that the world is really fucked up, Like for the fact that his brother didn't let him stretch out or whatever's Bro was going through. It was, you know, money debt. Whatever we ended up learning he was. You know, he was just in debt. He could have let Roger live bro to to expand and it would have got right back on track because we was getting Roger whatever he wanted for songs be on. You know, we had it. The record company was gonna pay for it. Anyway. He's making like forty grand, thirty five forty grand to just spot on your record after having a dry spell, you know, with the Roger dropping his app stuff, you know, we just we reinvigorated him. California Love shot to the top of the charts. He was dopen a video like man, it's it's just go buy so fast, bro, This fucking hip hop ship before you know it. Look, I'm thirty two years in and has seen everything, bro. But the tragedy of him dying, it made it unfun for me to do talkbox because it just reminds me of him too much. So I don't really do it no more. And how did you pass? His brother killed him, shot him and studio argument, you know what I mean? In Ohio and hometown. Brought him out to the car. They out in the car talking and he just whipped out on him and just start shooting. And Roger lived, He lived, He lived. He crawled out of the car, he shot him one more time, then he drove down the street, shot himself and Roger. They got Roger to the hospital. He died in operating on operating table. And it's like one person who didn't deserve that just got He was just too nice for that. Like you know, you never know what people going through and what you know when they snap one bad thing about the business, Like you know, it's dangerous too. That's why news security all the time. It's crazy. Yeah that hurt death Row times. Yeah, man, you were on the ground floor building with Death Row. What were those times? Like? Um, sometimes it was cool, and then it just became the streets. All the stuff that I got away from, all the gang banging and all of that just met me right their head on at the office. You know. It was like it was hood shit and you had to kind of be hood to deal with it because they were in there. The niggas was detecting fear. They just wanted to see if you was scared. You know, I think could make you feel some kind of way. It's like that that energy doesn't go with making writing songs. Songwriting as a beautiful process, you know what I mean, And it's a lot of thought involved. And you got guys in here gang banging and shit and threatening you, you know what I mean, and saying crazy shit. It was just it was, man, it was It was dangerous and it didn't have to be because it was the greatest record company at one point in the world. It was gonna it was gonna be the biggest thing in the game. But just just the ego of the you know, the boss, you know, and you never wanted to get on nobody backs. So it was like it was just walking like walking on eggshells all the time, a bunch of anxiety, you know, a bunch of nervousness, a bunch of you know people in they're playing like they tough just so they don't get punked. And it's like that wasn't that wasn't n it? I signed up for some bullshit when I'm like, oh, I didn't even come over here. I got my own shit, I got my own label, you know, I got my own record company whatnotum. But again, sometimes it was cool, like when when Pot came through, that was that was that was dope, you know what I mean, being in there watching you know. I used to go to the studio when Drey was working on Doggy Style and just letting us hear snippets of it. And I'm just sitting there with my wig bone back at just the quality of this ship man going on Larrapy, Like Drake called me up there. They're giving me cassettes of the Chronic before it came out. So I'm rolling around with the Chronic in my car and everybody's like, what is it? You know? You you know, man, when you got some shit like that straight out there, you know, straight out the motherfucking building. UM. And I didn't know that the Chronic was gonna be that but it did didn't coming to fucking juggernaut of hip hop. But it just seemed like Shug just got he just's not He just went left on everybody. Bro, you know, threatening niggas, punching niggas, beating up niggas. It's like I didn't come here to be no punching bag y'all. What was it like working with Tupac and what was his driving mentality and when it when it was came to work, like um Tupac was, he was incensed. Like it was almost like you know, before he went to jail versus after he got out of jail. He always felt like he could tell he never got comfortable, Like it was like he was on borrow time the whole time, and he didn't really stop to enjoy, as we say, like take the time, smell a flower. He didn't stop to enjoy what we was doing for him, you know what I mean, Like, Bro, we've been to write the best record of your life, my nigga, I put my album to the side and just start working on his ship, giving him tracks that I was gonna use, you know, Hearts of Men and Ship, and he would come wipe that ship down real quick. Like, just a cool dude, come out. You know, we share a blunt. He's writing, writing perfect and running there and wrap the ship and it's like, quick, you're gonna put the hook in the right. Yeah, I got I'm scratched the hook. He was like, all right, I'm done. I'm like, ain't nothing else we could do? Bro, you know what I mean? All right, I'll see you in a minute. He'd leave out the studio, walk right out the door, boom, go around to the studio, bat start working with Johnny Jay, going there and do how do you want it? Drey send me to Dad to California. Love like, let me see what the sounds like up front and Carolifornia. I'm like, good damn it, fucking him May I'm getting chills thinking about that ship. Bro. Then he'll come back in there with me and we'll do another song and then the same thing. He was just who can do that? Who can do that? I've never seen nobody work like that before? That work ethic was it was. It was fucking amazing. I actually missed it. Nobody really works like that. Then the ground huh, yeah, it was. It was. It's just it's like I said, he just seemed like he was on bora time. He didn't. He didn't even stop to relax and enjoy that ship. But about the outside the studio. Outside the studio, he was a jokester, bro comedy, bagging on niggas, joking, you know. Fun. We toured together a little bit. Um. He got in my ass one time too, about to get into a fight because he thought I was still in his stage show, like where he would rapping and jump up on the speakers and I had to chelling. Bro, I got that off, Bobby Brown, my nigga off the fucking my prerogative ship that I didn't get that from you, Bro, Nigga's been doing that. That's my shoo, chelling stuff, stelling my motherfucking show. Come here quickly, how about you? You know, I mean like I'm not still in the show. What's happening? Man? It is Nigga hot here ready to fight. So instead of us fighting, we went in the weight room and just start lifting weights and shit, you know what I'm saying. You know what I said, just going there, look it up though it puts him on it, so we just you know, that's how we got it. That's how we eased on by that he's just in there lifting then going there and make some more music. He just I don't know, man, it was it was he was a leader, but it's like they wouldn't let him lead, you know what I mean. He should have he should have got an office or something to death row and put put all his guys on. You know, he shouldn't have been just out just kicking it and like, you know, thinking the world was just easy like that, man, You know what I mean, You know, you run up on the wrong dudes. Man, They just it ain't worth that into them, you know, and know we all know how that ended. But I felt it. I felt that it like something is not right, something something thing to go down. I'm gonna ease on back because it was just it was building. You could just feel it building. Then they start dissing. They It was times when the fucking media double XL Vibe magazine would come to the studio and to talk to him, and I would stand outside and talk to him. I'm like, no interview me now, we want to talk to whom. I'm like, y'all, you guys are instigating all this shit. Every time y'all say something to him y'all know he gonna be real, you know what I mean? So I suggest y'all not I used to be out there. I got an album coming out, whom they want to talk to me. They wanted to keep keep that shit going because they were selling magazines, and I knew it, and I'm telling them, like, bro, don't bite, don't bite. They got me like that, and then they're gonna turn around in distance anyway. You ain't never gonna get a five star album and the five micer, you know what I mean. I knew it because I've been through the politics of it, just the whole you know, the way the East was getting down that at that time, and it was really just about selling, selling the source magazine that was the news, and I was right. I'm like, they're gonna end up causing somebody to get killed. Bro, Keep printing shit out because I'm reading it and it's like you're reading that shit and it's like this anxiety and that's reading. It's like God, you could feel the the vitriol in that ship. And you know, but when nobody listening to me, I'm like, bro, this is dangerous, man. Keep the media out of here, you know, true enough, magazines come out. These niggas just in Biggie and Biggie them shooting the vibe, but put out they ship East versus West. It's like, oh, it's it's over. This is this now is beyond anybody's control. It's it's a fire. It's like, now, get out fire extegers ain't gonna work. And I just started backing away from it, bro, and they kept trying to drag me back into it. I don't want to do this. I don't want to go to the hood parties. I'm not going to no pick now, I'll shoot a video or whatever. But you know, Jodycy was around and shit like it was. It was dope when it was dope, Mary J. Blige, Danny Boy, all these fly motherfuckers is around. But it was still just some negative energy to just brewing, Bro, And it was gonna ultimately bust. And it did what was for you as someone who was just h you know, a student of music and studied a lot of different crafts. What was it like with the beef from well, when you guys were beat from or when they were bea from with the East Coast? I mean, were you fans of any of the people they were, you know, not fucking with at the time. How did that work? It didn't. Um. When we did the Source Awards UM at Madison Square Garden right, Um, the tension was in the raws to get cut it with a Knight boss. My thing was, if they don't have a problem with me personally, I'm cool. I wasn't in no gang and I was. We was always trying to explain to people like I got into it with bone thugs and Harmony because they thought I was just an easy because I was on Death Row. I'm like Death Row is. It's a bunch of different factions at Death Row, a bunch of whole different you know things, and we're just trying to sell records the most records we can. And I ain't got no problem with you or Eric. Eric was my boy, UM. And when we performed that that the jail scene, the famous jail scene, I looked in the audience and I met Biggie already at UM at nine two point through the beat. UM. When I used to be up there all the time with THEO and he was cool. He didn't say much to me. He was a quiet dude, you know, because he didn't know what was going on. I was just made me. You know, I'm like, bro, don't worry about that shit. Man, we I'm not down with that shit. You know you could relax. I was with Craig Mac and him. Craig Mac was my boy. We should tour with Eric Sermon Whatnot EPMD. So Craig introduced me to him and I just made him feel good, like, bro, you gotta worry about shit. Um. So when I'm performing my part of that show, Biggie and Faith isn't front row and they pop into my shit, I didn't think they liked my music, so I was just like, oh, fuck yeah, dude, you know what I'm saying. Fuck yeah, Big like my shit. It was cool. I was cool with that because Big was hard music. Joe like, you can't take that away from challenges talent. He had something did nobody have. It was. It was very unique and singular to him. But when I seen him grooving off my ship, it was cool. And twenty minutes later, Should got up there and said what he said, we all had this. Me and Nick Dog stood up because we getting scowled at from everybody like they was ready to tear our heads off. And they said said, well, if you don't, you know, we just stood back to back. He said, if you don't let nobody hit me in the back of my head, I'm gonna let anybody hit you in the back of your head. I mean, I'm just stood there like this. Like then we end up getting rushed out of there, um and going out to the back and I remember seeing Flavor flav name, like, yo, man, that was filed man? What your man stid? That was fouled right, I'm like it was kind of fucked up up it It was kind of whack. Who else was out there? Um? Not Nick van Ex So what was it? What was my man name? One? It was a Larry He was a basketball player. He came out. He was chopping it up for a minute. It was just like the energy in the room just to hope, building just changed. And that's when you know Snoop got up there and try to do damage control, but it was already like the bomb was lit. It's like, damn, Sugar, at least warn us if you're gonna do that shit, man, let us prepare for this ship. Like you just you just threw grenade in the house with all of us in it. At the garden in msg fucking unreal, bro, Like, you know, mistakes were made. I'm gonna just say that, you know, in hindsight, being twenty twenty, you know, things I would have did different. Yeah. I got out of that safe. Huh. I got out of that safe. Uh yeah, yeah, he's had to you know, we had to split, you know, got back to the hotel and it was like, let's get the fuck home for the kill us before we get to the motherfucking airport. But um yeah, man again, mistakes were made. Man, in hindsight, you know, I just wish we could have did it longer. It just it was. It was too short. It's just too fucking short. How you go from I'm going platinum in nineteen ninety two, right, I get up on in ninety one, ninety six, POC dis five fucking funky ass years POC die. My music change. I started to stare away from the hood shit, the hot shit, you know, start trying to like tone it down, you know, and be safe and all that. It's like, no, we don't expect that from you. We want the raw shit from you. Just like all right whatever. And then ninety eight I had a big tragedy in my life where my nephew killed my motherfucking um, my manager and shit in my studio, and that just fucked my head up, and it was like, fuck this music shit, bro, this this ship makes everybody around us crazy. We cool, but this money drives our money drives them nuts. Yeah the fuck is that? You know what I mean? And I don't know, it's just I stopped producing, you know, just now, just now going to be like I realized the last album I actually did was in twenty twelve, of the Midnight Life, right independent. I'm independent now, and that's like too long for me to not be putting out fucking music. Like I'm a musician, that's what I do. I'm a musical messenger. You know. I had successful problem. We did this record called Rosecrans. We dropped that shit, and fucking April of fucking twenty sixteen, we had number one. We're celebrating. We DISSI Kanye shit on the air ship get just you know, starting shit right and next day Prince dies. So it's like, fuck, we lost number one on and ship and it's all about Prince at this point. And we didn't tour on that because it was like it was like, it's a tragedy that was around this ship. It was just crazy, Bro, I should have had fifteen albums out. I just finished my tenth album music, Bro, and it's it's back on the fun shit wordplay, funky ass beats, hard ass drum sounds, fucking solid ass piano parts and guitar parts, Like, can't nobody do that shit like me? I'm just gonna let my dick out right here. Can't nobody fuck with me in the fucking studio. I'm just that guy because I just I'm left handed. I see it all different than everybody else, you know, And fuck it, this is hot. My new album is fucking smoking. I'm happy, uh working with Snoop and being around Snooping them early days that like Snoop was, Snoop was quiet, Bro. Snoop was the shit. Snooper being his little BMW would be driving fucking to fucking Las Vegas, Bro, and I'm like, we're in a caravan with dog, you know, because he was he was automatically the hottest guy in the game at that time, and you had to just get with it. It was like, Dude, this this persona was just cold, just it's just cool, like you know what I mean. And the marketing was never ending. You could just you know, align him with a dog and it works, you know everything that you know, you know, if you can make all kind of dope ass you know, um things with his name, like the Snooper Bowl and the Snooper market So it was just like this marketing exactly. It's like you could just play with his name and it's the ship. So marketing was dope, and and he was cool. He's always been cool. He's the same guy, you know what I mean, always smart. He didn't really want the fall. He didn't like trouble. He didn't like oh none of that shit. He wasn't He wasn't a troublemaker, you know, I mean, his ship was. He just wanted to smoke his weed, be cool, make music. You know. I should go to his house and do songs and shit, like when he lived in Montclaire, should go up there and do beat. So I introduced him to Sugar Freedom and niggas ended up becoming friends right on. You know, let Nias still kicking it to this day. You know, Uh, Snoop as an asset to this business easily, like he's one of the most important players on the West Coast. With all him is kind of you know, it's it's kind of hard, you know, like who else who better? You know, he brought his dog pounds to them niggas, you know, soldiers in the game, the lieutenants. It just made sense, bro, and nobody sounds like that. The most unique voice in hip hop at that point. You know what was that that video with the dog weekend kick good. We can freak it, Yeah, we can freak it. Yeah. You you put a spin in your walk and then when you when you you was dancing that, then you put a nice little spin. I ain't I ain't he saw that. I saw that. I saw that at my first time. I'm saying, somebody spinning the walk like that, man, Thank you, Bro. That's that that started something because we called it the b walk. Yeah, because you know, we know what the crip walk is. We all know, we all got cousins, we got chrip brothers, you know, so it is what it is. But my little nephews came up with a little skip walk where it was like in the air with it like a little in the air over here air air and then twirl like just yeah, and it was all about that that twirl. So niggas taught me how to trial because I used, I'd be scared to let go. It's like just spin. I'm just spin like you know, I would like I would chip around like this, and it was like you could spin. I was like I started doing it. I was like, you killed it. You killed it. And well, beyond stage, everybody just be twirling like tops like the b walk is official. See approached me at the studio one time. He's like, man, me, houl at you man, like, what's that in? Send him up the dash y'all doing like he like, man, let me see, let me see this dance, bro, so I can see for myself if y'all not just crip walking. Said no, bro, it ain't the check us out look and we start skipping. He's sitting up there like dub looking at us like and when you know, we was at Skip Sailors fucking Hollywood. When he when he saw what he was doing, like it was a routine, he was like he gave us a pass. Okay, that's different. That's different, you know what I mean? Sip sip, Yeah, when the big homie tell you it's cool. It's cool. Um, how was it producing for guys like Jay z Um amazing? Uh, you know, out of body experience like it's like wow, like you really made it. When you're in the studio would be Beyonce's offering your motherfucking water fruit and shit, you know, and just chilling. Yeah, so what's so? What? So? What's that? What's that session? Like? That session is just like you could imagine it be Jay's quiet. He don't he don't. He ain't kind of do the walk around the studio writing and thinking it's something. He sits there and he just he let the music get in him, you know, and whatnot. And um, gurus at you know, at the controls. I'm on the beat bees over their chilling coolest shit. She's so humble, you know what I means, sweetheart, Right, Jail just be sitting up there humming. He'd be like making these little sounds and shit, and then you just cock his hat to the side and be like it's like, alright, Guru, I'm ready, that's simple. Yeah, you go when you cock his hat and then going there and just start nailing that shit. I'm like, I ain't see this, my fucker. Right now. One lyric like who does that? I'll start doing that. I stole that from him. I don't write no more like it's I think too fast for that shit. It's gonna slow me down now writing the ship down. You know, I'll write down the hit points. You know, shit that I would probably forget, but you know, just the words are between, like bust that shit so you punch you like punching. Uh no, you know, like old school, Like if you can't do it as sixteen, and you can't do it in sixteen, then it's hard to perform that shit live. It's still to me about the live show. Right to me, I ain't like everybody, you know, I'm I like it the hard way. You know. It's easy to put a word here, put the word there, and didn't just go put them in pro tools and thing. But we come from tapes like when I'm going nigga, you my chag just gonna pull up motherfucker's gonna be able to pull up them tapes and listen to shit that we did and be amazed, like I'd be amazed, like listening back to my tapes like damn was online. You know I got my masters, bro. Fuck that my ship is. My ship is in storage. I can go look at that show. I can go touch my motherfucking safe and sound all them reels and shit, you know what I mean. That's important to me, you know. And uh, the art, just the perfectionism of it is important. I don't believe in punching if because if you can't, you can't feel it, you know. Sometimes if if it's not one whole verse all the way down, you know, I don't like it to feel punched, you know. But then again that's I'm left handing. I'm a perfectionist. What can I say? How important is tech in music? I mean black production technology and what it always leads music. It's the leading thing, you know. The guy with the new tech has the new sound. Yeah, you know. It's like shit like y'all basketball, whoever got the hot hand passed it to him. Shit Like when pro tools came out. Pro Tools changed everything, unfortunately for the for the worst at the beginning, because of the way it sounded. It took something out of our sound, you know, and it took I learned. It came with a learning curve. You had to now start thinking about a different way of using you know, a producing music and putting music together, and the iron the irony is is that pro Tools is from Avid. Pro Tools was a video editing system. You know. It was for putting movies together and synchronizing music to them, you know, and then they like, you know, well, you know you could put sound and you can break it up, you can move st up around it. It was going to all the studios like in late nineties, like maybe ninety four ninety five demo in it. It was like, man, we're gonna keep this board and these tape machines, right. I mean ultimately every studio just switched. It was like tape was getting phased out and everybody was doing pro Tools, and I just didn't like the sound of it. It just didn't have no bottom, like, it didn't have no life in it. But um, I stayed tape based like I would use like the Sony M eight tracks, the UM like tape based like the DA eighty eights, which is like a little eight millimeter tape, because they just sounded like something. Still, I couldn't lose that linear feeling until ultimately pro Tools got better and better started to sound more like what we're used to. Then I end up having to give in ultimately, like two thousand and I want to say two thousand and three, I went on and got on end and you know, learned it had a bunch of people teaching me stuff, showing me how to do it, YadA, YadA YadA. Then I started fucking with some real fancy programmers and he turned me into a power user. Now I'll be I'll be doing shit, fucking people up like like five commands and then just move my hand and the computer be sit up there doing it like should be swelling up. Yeah, I got good at it, So now all my shit is basically pro tools. I still like tape, though, Like I just picked up this thing called a Model twenty four task cam, and it's like tape based recording, like old school, because some people don't want to look at a computer screen. You know what I mean. Music is it's a it's not sitting up there staring at the screen. Music is what you feel, how you feel right away, putting it down, playing, you know, jotting down stuff. So I'm back to that. But the cool thing is that the Model twenty four integrates with pro Tools, so after you've done doing it your way, drop it into pro Tools and cleaned it up and cleaned it up and do all shit you gotta do. But now I love pro Tools. I can't live without it. Yeah yeah. Um. Top three producers in any job, Top three producers in any genre? Um, easily, Uh fucking Quincy Jones easily. Um. My man Rob Temperton from Heatwave heard of the Thing. He wrote Rock with You and you know all the Heatwaves stuff and Thriller he wrote Thriller and all this ship. But Rod, just the way he played man, to be a German guy like that, to have that sense of funk, it's just crazy. Uh. And Curtis Mayfield to me still like the greatest of all time, you know. And George Clinton. People forget that George because he was such a character. They forget he was actually producing all that shit. So I mean, who can make a flashlight? Who can make not just Needy? Not just NEEDEP is the best fucking funk record in the world, hands down. I can't think of nothing better. You know, Brickhouse maybe, yeah, No, fucking not just Needy. That shit that's still the most youthful record ever. Put that shit on and I'm gonna fuck who you are? You gonna dance. Yeah, that's that's that was of my favorites. Curtis Quincy Jones just for the seniority, and fucking George Clinton talk about your time and rasta beautiful The best boss ever man, Clide Davis was he let me do what I wanted to do. That's all the artists wants. And then he gave put me in you know, positions and gave me opportunities where I could produce other artists on Arista, like Deborah Cox and you know next r J and these guys. Be in the studio with these dudes, man, and that lets me be in the studio with like baby Face and you know, um fucking Mariah Carey. Ultimately, you know what I mean? It was Dave Clide kicked the door open for us. He bought he inherited Profile Records, which was my label, and he bought the label and inherited our deal and um, you know, going up there and talking to that dude, just knowing who he was from the past, like he signed Gil Scott Heron and fucking you know, um, what's the old girl who died from fucking hero and abuse? Um fucking she said, real crazy boys, girl, no, not anyone house fucking um. Her name is Scaping right now. But she was one of She thought she was a WHENY seven Club heard Jimmy Hendridge Jenny Joplin, Yeah, he signed, he was a. He was at Epic. Just dude signed Slide in the Family Stone Bro, fuck out of here, Sliding the Family Stone Bro and supported Slide the whole time. Of course he signed Whitney. Of course he signed fucking he signed Ray Parker Jr. Radio. You know he's he's just as black as all of us when it came to music sensibility. But just a cool dude. And he said people asked I should go to his grammy parties and ship. People would ask you know what he thought about me? He was like Quick as he's the best artists on the West Coast, Like all the West Coast artists. He's always said that Quick is the best. He's the best out of all of them. It's like, thank you b from him. Goddamn right. Clin Davis greatest boss ever bro. I hated when he left because uml La Red came in and just kicked everybody off the label. Like I I was grandfathered into the ship. I had another million dollars on the table for my my album after balancing options, and this motherfucker dropped me for nothing. It's like what I gotta do, Like, you know, changed my whole trajectory. I had to go Independent and Ship and it was that was that was an ugly fight because Independent was run by you know the gangsters, you know, Genovasi family type shit, you know what I mean, Francis, Francises and Ship. So it was like, you know, they're gonna give me here, get over here, sign it, contracts here, chick, all your money here? The fuck is this shit? You know what I mean? So I had to navigate through that shit. Now I'm cool. I'm straight put some people out, like you know that I could put out Independent Records, wouldn't feel good about it. But I miss Clive as a person. Is it true that Prince asked to borrow your production set up? Sure? Did? Um? I did? Did I I was vice president and our Warner Brothers. He came back in. He came back in, um, and I hope it was because he saw that Warner Brothers hired the nigga to be He's like, uh, they get it. He stopped writing a slave on his face, and you know, the talk was going around the office that he was coming back. So I was like, who we all are hinting? I'm like, got a residency at Hinston Recorders m where they shot Willy Wonka and Chocolate Factory, Domatt Studio, Rhythm Nation he used to be and him, So my man is making his rounds. He coming back to He's coming to the studio. And I should have known because I see Wendy and Lisa the time, you know, all in the studio and I'm working on my record. I was working on trauma at the time and producing, like helping put on people like Chingy and shit like, I'm just doing little shit right, um fucking with you know. Uh, dre a little bit with the fifty cent ship here and there, and Prince Peoples came into my studio session one day and it was like, quick, Uh, the man wants to know if he could see your rig right there. You want to know if he could use your rig for a minute. I'm like the man, who's the man? Prince Like, hell yeah, man, I'm worried that ship go ahead. I'm good fuck hey, Um, I'm worried it rolled it in there. And went in this room. He had it for like a few hours, full five hours or whatnot. So then they came back, knocked on the door, came in. It's like a quick uh Prince. You know, he said thank you, and you know he appreciate, you know, being your hospitality, letting me use this ship. He's a prince wants to He also wants to know what do you drink? I said, oh, hell yeah, nta drinking the CXL. Get the big bottle, you know. Yeah, so my man go out, they go get me a bottle. They come back in. There was like this quick this from Prince. I'm like, you know, I love Prince, My Prince's greatest ever right feeling myself. Put them on a fucking box on the um upon the goddamn console and just work. Me and the engineers just in there and all like damn nig. The Prince touched this ship. So but you never seen him coming through. And when you do see him walking through, Prince had this walked. It was It wasn't a walk. It was a glide where his head never moved, but you just seemed just glide like he was on a fucking conveyor belt like who the fuck magic shit fucking magic in real life. My nigga like personified it, invited me to his house. No, he was you know, I'm sure that like it made him comfortable that niggas was in the building, bro, and he knowed my music because I'm one of the only people that he cleared a sample for, because he never cleared a sample for nobody. Parts of man. When I sampled fucking Darling Nikki at the end every version, yeah, put that in tuopox record. He was mad at first. Then Nigga just started sitting to ask money. Shit is like all right, coul that and what's your phone number? He never cleared seven seven seven nine three eleven for nobody, But when when I sampled, didn't made it sound right because the Johnny j Rest his soul he produce used it and he was putting music on the one and seven seven seven nine three eleven ain't on the one. It's the accident all around around it. But nothing is on the one. That's why it's like one two three four blank broom, blank doom. They take it to blank whom. Nothing's on the one, not even the singing boom babe, what's your phone you know nothing. So my man was putting music on the one. I'm like, I went and got the CD and resampled it and did it over in tuparc you know, latest vocals, and and Prince he cleared that ship too. That's the question I wanted to ask you. So when you go on the studio, you know, the board, the big board, the question of what that is? So do they do you have to set each one? Or when you plug in the computer it set itself. Um No, you mean as far as like mixing and you know, so the sound board, Yeah, you have to. You have to like all those not not that you got to move them all to a certain thing or the board sets itself. No, I don't say it self. Okay, what it is is it's it's it's a matrix. It's really just one channel and multiplied by a hundred. So if you learn what one channel does all the way from the preamp to the fader, then you in essence know what they all do. So it's all about your application in your ear when you mix a record, you know, and I just I got some of the best ears in the game. How long would it take you to set one? Um? I mixed fast like because yeah, well you get somebody, your second engineer comes in and zeros it out right like nothing's changed. It's just flat. It's nothing's happening. And then you as you you know, you put sound through it. They got kicks and snares and how it hats and vocals. You just go through and dial in how it's supposed to sound like what you you know, give give everything the polished platinum treatment. You know, kicks, snares, how it hats and vocals, and and it's how you blend everything. It's a it's a fucking art. That's that's that's make no mistake. Mixing records is not easy because I've seen people turning the board off, all the buzzs go down. Then when they just turn on, just reseay itself. Yeah, that's that's automation. Yeah, those are that's that's um total recall. That's when boards have you know, a program. Yeah you know what I mean, memories like go back to a song. That's that come in handy when you got we're working with two people and one person does everything different at the time he's done. When you go back in there, if you got to undo all that shit and do your shit again. It just takes like three four hours of lost time. So they made boards where you can automatically just go back to it's called a screen shot, where to take a picture of your mix and then just recall it instantly and everything just fly back to where you kind of over your head right now. I'm just listening, Yeah, Man, shoul Man technology a little bit about it's going back to your question about technology. Technology leads this shit, bro. You know, that's that's why Roger Truman was so popular because he just he was fucking around with them dope ass keyboards and that them talk box that he invented, bro, that he made himself. He just he made that one because they were selling them, but he wanted one with a little more umps. That's why he sounded different than everybody else, you know, different than Stevie Wonder and was my man, the guitar player Peter Frampton, like he got famous doing it, but the way Roger did it, it became a He made it a star, you know what I mean. Do you ever have any experience with Michael Jackson? Yeah, man, look at Michael Jackson. Bro. I booked his studio. We booked the studio Westlake for my first single. Tonight. He moved from our studio to his studio and he wanted to get in there one time. So they was like, um, you know, they came through, warned everybody that you know, Michael's want to come through, and uh, he didn't want nobody to see him coming through or looking right. So we all out there and you know about the pink um, the pool table, kitchen area, you're chilling, we're taking a break from the studio, and these guys come in and they like, he was like, hey, y'all, um, we're about to bring somebody through here. You know, they didn't ask us to leave. They asked us to just turn around and face the wall while you know, they bring the artists through, right, So it's like, are y'all serious, Like it's not a joke. They just like, man, if y'all come on quick, man, if you could just I know who you are, quick, I like your music. If you could just turn around, you know, you know, it'd all be good, all right, all right? So we turn around and shit, this shit seemed weird and shit like police shit, like you know, being hemmed up on the wall. So the door opens pool. Then you just hear some penny look for m right running through the little thing. Turn around. You can see him like this a little hair shit and went in the door closer to him. It's like, oh, y'all cool, y'all can turn around, y'all, every everything's cool. It's like, damn Mike didn't want nobody to look at him right. So, um, that was one experience, and then was another one where he booked our studio, his um Skip Sailors, and he was more cool than it was like I had a one of my little artists I was trying to sign and you know, he didn't really say nothing to us. He just walked walked past. And you know what I mean, whatever he wasn't he wasn't as timid as he was back in ninety one ninety two. He's just more cool. But he didn't. I don't know if he I don't think he either wanna fuck with me. He thought it was blood. Michael's cripp Michaelson is cripping. But yeah, man, but shit, I hung out with Janet Man that was amazing, produced record producer, remixer record for her. We gave her the Icon Award. MTV and shipped a DJ for that's just a boy, Penny Woods. It's a bad motherfucker, bad lady bro, just iconic. I got a list of names. Give me your best interaction or the impact or what they meant to you, uh, in your life, in your career, Easy Easy. I wouldn't be here for him. For Easy Eat. I just bit his whole style, voicing everything you know, and people somebody told me, they said, quick, you are easy Eat and doctor dre put together because you could do what dre do and you do what easy do and you sound like easy Like. I didn't really think of it that way, but hey, I can see that. I take that as a bar. So yeah, um, I wouldn't be here without Eric Easily. That was my biggest inspiration. Kevin Costner. Kevin Costner as an actor. Um. I never got a chance to meet Kevin Costner, but I heard he like niggas heard it. That's what I heard. You got this shit on TV called Yellowstone right now. It's the best ship on TV. Yeah, they have they funking behind the scenes. That's what the best ship on TV. Man, that's the best shit on TV. Yeah, they're talking about it right now on news Um. Dre is the guru. I call him a warlock because just the shit he knows about sonics, you know what I mean, And being in the studio with him, he's very fucking methodical about the way he works on hit and then he has this it's like nothing really excites him. He's like, you know, he's not like, you know, just quick to just jump up. Hey, you know what I mean? He like he's ill. Often say, Dre is not impressed until you play something for him that he's never heard ever, because he's heard everything. Yeah, you gotta do shit for him that he's never heard. That's why. That's why he liked that Indian record that I did for him, you know, because something he never heard. And when in played percussion, playing it all a different way, not just not just in there like Gonnareta Franklin song, just playing the tambourine like we made the tambourina thing, like playing it a whole different way, you know, and took fucking hours to do a fucking tambourine part. But yeah, he's a he's a slave driver in that fucking studio. But when it's all said and done, you hear it it is something that's unique and special. So he just got this kind of force, like a warlock. What's the side of Compton Kevin Costing from? Is he from Compton? Yeah? Fuck out of here, Kevin from CpG. That's why they asked why. That's why they we got him on the list, because that's why we asked you, because he's from Compton. I had no idea. Yeah, you're from that French part of Compton, the French part. You know. I know that George Bush used to live in Compton, though yeah, I don't know out later. No, I had no idea. That's why he got that s whack. That's why he got that part in the body Gun. Great part. No wonder he liked niggas makes sense, makes sense clicked Kendrick Lamar k dot Man before he blew up. I got a chance to work with him on the Sports Game, and if I had known he'd be who he is now, I would have just let him take over the song. But I knew he had something special the way you know, I met him through Jay Rock, and Jay Rock brought him to the studio and cut his vocals like this boy got a I'm like this was before he was like, I didn't hear his rap. Shit, he was just singing the hook, like doing the hook. I'm like, this motherfucking kid's incredible, right, and my dumb ass I'm thinking, Um, you know, like what do I pay him? Like? How do you pay him? Like you know what I mean? Like, you know he's gonna get a credit on the song because it's corrupt merse me Jay Rock, Everybody's on it, and um, Kendrick's doing the shit. So I was like, I just like paid him as an instrumentalist, like you know, like y'all you play a band member. Think I gave him like four or five hundred bucks. I was like, man, thanks for being on here, right, I should get that nigga like two grand, three grands. So he remember me like quick, just treating me like a one fucking bass player. You know what I'm saying. It's like what else was I supposed to do? I didn't know. And and then when I heard section eighty, I was like this is this kid and then it all clicked. It was like wow. So then when I went to reach back to him, like to produce, he's already signed. The aftermath. You know, when once Drake gets you just like it's all bets are off, you know. So I never got back in the studio with him, but you know I loved his trajectory, so deserving. You know, he's from the right side of Compton, you know what I'm saying. So cool, and he fuck with moss Burg. He sampled my shit, he sampled U get naked form his record, King Kunter paid homage to Mossburg, So which was important to mess Burke was my artists. Unfortunately, you know, got killed in fucking two thousand on the fourth of July. Took him break from the studio and went home. And niggas are such creeps. Got that boy during the fucking under the cloak of the fireworks, Like god damn, I've probably known now that we just stayed in the studio all night. We pulled what we did last night, fourteen sixteen hours, like stay out the streets man. But it was a bad boy. But I just feel like Kendrick carried the torch, and you know he deserved it. That he's one of the best at it, I mean, easily important, and he's going to be the kind of kid that inspires everybody to go forward, Like you know, the new generation of artists, the game, jam our DJ forum, the game when he first came out, when his album debut, the documentary went overseas with him and watched the world fall in love with this dude, just his little you know, his you know, just his attitude, just this this fire he had um you know. And of course you know we all and none of us with all our troubles and ship. When I started to seeing getting in trouble, I hated it because it was like, that's the one thing you don't want to do, man, Just fly straight, like you know what I mean, Like stop beating up the DJ radio DJs when they say something slick, or you know, stop fighting in the clubs, stop gang banging in New York Son like kick get you know what I mean. He was like he had to. He's like a pit bull. He was like, let loose. He had to. He was going to settle a score. It's like this new score to settle, you know what I mean. It's like all this shit over this, it's all about you now. Just be you be number one brass. Some fun times. That's some fun times. Went to Paris, then all over Europe and ship the Williams family. Oh man, everybody loves the girls. Bro Um, Serena and Venus. They they they are the first to me. They were the first high profile Compton residents because they that should you know, to be playing in Wimbledon, bro and fucking London and England rather you know in UK, Like what's better than that? What's bigger than that? They they topped out and then to be as good as they are, like just phenoms. It's something in water and Compton. Huh. Cocaine and this ship. Okay, I'm just kidding. Top three cities or countries you performed in. Top three cities, Um, Detroit, Joe Wash, Serina, the loudest ovation I ever heard, San Francisco in the beginning, Um, summer Jam and summer Jam came on. Um, Oakland is the ship though Oakland is just it's just something just special in Oakland. Bro, I can't wait to go tomorrow. People just they just they real it's just fucking it's incredible. Um overseas, I love Australia up in Australia like four or five times. Just got back in November. Um, I set off this whole. I said, It's like after I came back from Australia and I saw she let everybody go like q Man New yorll in New Zealand exhibit snoop, you know what I mean, everybody started going. It's like you're welcome, killing that fucking stage like a teenager. But um also um Canada, certain parts of Canada is the ship like um Quebec keep it qui um BC. Of course the west coast of it. It's just like just like how America is that they got the East coast Toronto and all that East coast and the West coast. Um. But the people out there just sweet, like they just got just natural cool, just sweet people, you know what I mean. UM never been in Africa, that's on my bucket list. On the performed there, but uh I did uh Norway, which was incredible. She was unreal, like she just seemed like a dream bro like all that natural beauty up there on the fresh water and Fiords and all that shit just bawling. And their money is twice as much as ours coroners. So that ship was dope. Um. But I gotta say, out of all of them, you know it's West coast, it is dope. Like when you're killing on the West, like the Forum, you know, uh, Staples Center formerly She's just play on your own Court. Atlanta, Leona's Dope Too, and Houston your favorite tour you've been on it? Who was with you? My favorite tour was my first tour because it was like it was innocence and we was hot as fucking fish brings a MG second and nine and the high see see, you know, there was some shit going on. We h We was getting shot at every night though, because of the whole blood shit. So it got to a point to where it was to be expected. You're gonna be here, It's gonna be some cripts there, the security awarn us. We do little extra shit. I had bulletproof vest and ship security had guns. We do the show. Mother fuckers, We get out. My fucker's come around the back to try to catch us. Security let off some shots and shoot back, but diversion. We get into my fucking van, head back to the hotel, you know, every night, every every night, every night. That's why I stopped touring. When it came time for my second album nineteen ninety two, I stopped touring and it wasn't worth it no more, you know, I was, Um. I guess I was shell shocked from being out there with all that fucking violence. It's my god, damn, how do you have an enemy everywhere you go? Always hats everyone? Now? Yeah? Yeah, he just hated everyone though. Uh craziest fan interaction you've ever had. Uh. I touched his girls on hand and she fainted. M hmm, Michael Jackson say that Michael Jackson effect. Man, she out that day or something that wasn't That's what it was. That hair worked. Let's as jay. I still got my what y'all talking about? Still? I was let girl? Man? No, yeah, girl straight fainted? Bro. I was like, what the fuck? Had to be picked up and carried out? Do you ever made somebody paint? Man? Not that I know about? They asked, what about you? I had a girl cry when she met me. She didn't speak English anything like that. She just started crying that she didn't know my name enough. She just started crying because I was taking pictures with people and she walked by. Just I just start crying. I didn't know my name to knew who I was, But I made a cry. That's cool too, Yeah, that's cool, We'll take it. They count stay to hip hop right now, fifty year anniversary, Stay to hip hop? Thoughts on it. I just spoke at a panel post Star touring. You know, all the heavyweight promoters in the business, and it's a beautiful thing because we had to fight for this to be taken seriously. You know. Um, just some of the things that we went through individually and collectively as artists were you know, we had to really kick the door down for the ship. And now that just lived fifty years and it's become the most important, most influential genre in music. I can't be nothing but proud. I feel like I put a brick in that wall, you know what I mean. I feel like I helped build it. But the sad thing is it's also fifty years, so you know, the the art it's starting to you know, the genre of hip hop is starting to outlive as artists, and that's that's sad. I mean, like, you know, we just lost true Girl from Day Lost Soul, you know what I mean. Shock, I'm still in my heart in my mind to plug too, man, right, come on, man, you know it just shocked me when Shock G died. I was I was looking forward to going back on tour with shocked you know what I mean? Um, but yeah, we lost a lot of too many important members of when Bismarck KEI died and even my men DMX. It's like the fuck man, Like, really, I wish I would have got a chance of meet plug too many. YEA three High and Rising album was amazing, bro Yep, groundbreaking. Any who was some of the younger artists to you you listened to or culture? I like ben Stables. The Stables is hard to me. They were just talking about it. Bench Stables is hard. Um. I like the little girl with the little record, Uh, and you're gonna have it in flight in the night. What's her name? Corey something? Good night? Yeah, I just want to have a night up that record hard. That's what's her name? Daughter? Ain't it? Ben Zino? Daughter? Right? Good on him? Yeah that is it is? Yeah, Yeah, she's dope. Um. Who else knew? I don't know. I've been I've been working on my record lately, so I'm kind of out of the loop. Locked in on your ship. Yeah. When I dropped my ship, and we'll see who it affects and you'll see who what collaborals I do from there. Gavin Newson signed a bill in California limiting lyrics as evidence. What are your thought on that as someone who came from such a violent phase of music. Um, thoughts on that? When did you sign this bill? Wasn't too long ago? Wasn't he's limiting the use of lyrics as evan evidence against it last year? Okay? Well, then Gavin is a hero. Then Gavin is that guy that's what gave me my my day in the bay. You say that, say that? Ye know? Um? Yeah, because in a sense, it is just sensationalism, like you know, we doing that ship back then. You know, if you listen to my first album, I got a song in there called Lope douthood, you swear I was killing everybody every day, right, because it was just sensationalized. It was it was you know, it was fake entertainment. Yeah, exactly. Um. But then it seemed like the lyrics, like when Tupac got killed. It was almost like the lyrics, you know, the lyrics thoughts become things. It was almost like it was scary because now you you say this ship and it can happen to you, you know what I mean, Like the Boogeyman is real type shite, see what I'm saying. So to see the youth have so many to see so many youth deaths, and hip hop is crazy to me, Like all the young rappers that have died, you know, exploiting the guns and ship in their videos and all this violence and then they just get killed. Like and like bro hip hop, at one point a couple of years ago, it was more dangerous than being a construction worker, you know, fucking off of those words. So I'm glad Gavin did that. So you know, motherfucker's could go back to saying the outland dish wall ship they want to say, I mean, express yourself. It's just just fucking but especially to be reality, you know what I'm saying, that's the musical that touches what you're going through, Like, you gotta be able to talk about real life things that go on in the hood for your music to actually touch somebody. You can't just make up some shit on an album. I think that's gonna touch somebody, right, you know what I'm saying. It don't work like that. Music is relative. You make music for people to just say things that they can't say. Your music represents people. That's how it is, and it represents their culture, represents their hood. That's always about you just want to make the music that motherfuckers, that make people feel good and give them a little escapeism although you still obviously got it in you and continuing to do more work. Sitting here at fifty three years old, did you ever think you would send me It's an honor to end up blessing to get this old in the game, because, as we discussed, so many people have lost their lives, and a lot of your friends have lost their lives in it. I have more friends dead than alive. I've lived that long. I got more cemeteries I have to visit than actual niggas I could pull up on them, which is fucked up. But I feel like I'm here for a reason, and I'm gonna keep doing what I do. Bro, I'm gonna keep trying to be Superman at the ship and thug it out for as long as I can, but at the same time try to make music that's not resting on my laurels, not going back and doing the same old shit over and over again, but still trying to pull the best out of artists that I fuck with, whether they're my ogs, people that I worked with, or even new artists that want to, you know, learn how hard is it to stay? I wouldn't want to say relevant, You've eve been relevant. I think you've always been relevant. Stay with the time, so to speak of just the way music is. It's always evolving. Um, I'm a DJ first, So these are records that I play. You gotta like what you play, and you gotta play for people that like what you play. So I stay. I keep my ear to the streets. I keep listening to the records that that work, you know, without biting them. You know, you know you it's to me, it's about my sound. I still do my sound and the way I do it, and that's what makes me unique. But it's not without listening to what's hot. You can't just turn a blind eye to what's chart topping, because you lose your way. You'll be You'll be dated before you know it. You know, I just do. I still love it too. It's still I still have a passion about it, you know what I mean. Finally we finally get the smoke. Oh. I asked if you wanted me to roll you something up? Bro. I thought you said you has something to go for me. I definitely got something to go for you now I smoke with you. Growing up in Compton, I don't want to be high. Oh no, I'm loaded off. I'm so geeked right now, this is the last right we did. We're coming to the closing, closing lines. When I say, uh, growing up in Compton, what would you tell a young DJ Quick that's coming up in Compton right now, that's around all the morness? What would I say to? What would I you but a young producer that's want to be DJ Quick that's growing that's seven leagues. You did that on purpose? D No, that's because it was cold. Okay, that's what it was. Yeah, it was too cold. You gotta heat it up. Yeah, But what would you tell a young producer that's inspiring to be like you, that's growing up in the same predicament you grow up in. What would you tell and what would what advice would you give them so so they would make some of the same mistakes you make. Bro, don't fuck with your family, because family they make shit difficult because they familiarity, breathe, contempt. They will hold your ass down and not give a fuck and don't realize they stopping the fucking the money. You know, um, I would tell me leave your sister along, bro, she don't funk with you like that, and she, you know, she's fucking since then, has been diagnosed with fucking sociopathy psychopathy, So it's like, you know, just don't don't. Don't think your family is all there for you. Some of them have a little envy, so be careful with that. The motherfuckers you think you're hot, protecting yourself from when you lock the door and you know, cock the gauge, they'd be right there behind you inside the house, So be careful with that shit. Family always fucks it up because they you know, they ain't got nothing to lose. Man, keep making go to the left, making music that's just a little bit off the beaten path. You want something that sound different like now today the trend is like like Scarface said, everything sounds like it's one long song. Now it's the same producer like just it's one long song. And our error was for everybody to be diverse. So yeah, no one didn't sound like anybody back then. They cool copycast. Now yeah it's the thing I mean, but hey, man, if it sells, if you know they make way more money now that we did. Yeah, you know, and I'm proud of him for that because that was the whole thing, was financial freedom and above and beyond. But still give the people who are you know, who are that that grow from a very creative record, Still be super creative so you can spark people. That's all I'm saying. Last year, you basically, uh put out some tweets saying that you should be with doctor Dres and basically he was just patting himself on the back because a lot of people don't do it. That's how I took it. Yeah, I've seen how that could have been misconstrued. Like, you know, when I realized that I trenned it when I made it to Australia. I said that before I flew out of America. I was just like, because I helped Doctor Dre was some of the most pivotal songs of his career. And I just feel like, you know, my name don't get shouted enough, like I had a I have a sound, you know, and a lot of people don't know this. And Snoop, Snoop, I hate to put him, you know, put him in this, but Snoop came to me before he did Bitch Please and said, he said, man, I got something for you to hear. He had me on this the dog Food album. He said that, uh, he said, man, he said, because you put doctor Dre back on, I'm like, what you mean? He said, wait to hear this record. So he played Bitch Please for me. And it was the two records that I did for Shaquille O'Neill combined the way he played it clanct them because before that it was you know, Aftermath Presents and the Firm and people was like, you know, damn Dre. His music changed too much. But me, I just kept doing what I was doing. I didn't, you know, I always I'm always there for Dre. I always want to help Dre when he need me. He don't really need me. He got ten twelve beat makers that do everything he needs. But my thing is I'm left handed. I always think a little bit off the beaten path. And I got a bounce. I got my own bounce. So Dre borrowed my bounce and it put him right back home. Why do you feel like you haven't got the respect of love? Is it because you were independent so long? You were getting go main like um what what it is? I don't know. I get anxiety a lot. I don't like to be around people a lot, you know, I mean, I like to be by myself. I'm kind of I'm solitary, you know what I mean. I like to when I come out, I come out. But I'm like the fucking hedgehold bro like you know what I mean, groundholder. Rather I gotta come out and say the weather, I'm back in it. Um. I didn't market myself as much as everybody else, did, you know? And again, I stay reclusive, So that's to me, that's what was more than anything else. But I'm not a camera hog. I'm not like a tension hog. Like I don't like to just do a munch of shit for a tension But I think another thing too, is you got the respect of your peers, and and and and and the real ones in the space say that I mean more than anything else. And that's to me, that's the thing, you know what I mean, Whether you get the huge record and obviously you're knowing around the world, but when you tweeted that shit, I'm just like, he doesn't get the love and respect and the flowers he should get. That's what I've been feeling. I'm like, I'm like, don't wait till I'm dead right, I'm still here. You know, now, y'all should know I'm flying because I'm not putting out bullshit records, not just putting out records because it's time to put out a record. You know, it's been a year. Ain't the wrong with breaking your arm and patting yourself on the back of the man, because, like I love me, you sit around way for people to patch you on the back. You're gonna be sitting there waiting, Bro, you gotta patch yourself in the back time. I'm hard, yeah, because there's too many people with too many different things to focus on. So just don't forget about little o me. Know that I did some really incredible fucking records. I sold one hundred million records when it wasn't popular, bro, with all that tupuc shit, Whitney Houston, Janet Jackson, Deborah Cox, fucking soundtracks above the rim fucking murder was the case my own ship, bro, Like you know, before two thousand, I was already at one hundred million aggre get sales. Bro, the fuck does that that should be? I should be? I should what I gotta do get a tattoo in public on TV, like coming the ship. Motherfucker comed in on my chest. I should have gave you that joint earlier's the ship talking. Yeah, I told you Earli should have gave one of them, ye man, yeah, but Dick's out there. Fuck it, let's go. And I know you got old because I ain't got you. I got a platinum album, but I'm thinking about doing another one because if the first one one platinum. So yeah, I just did that. But I know you got a computer that you ain't opened about thirty years. Let me getting one of them old beats off of there. Man, I don't want another new sh that's too expensive for me. If if if it is old, if I got something in there, I'm gonna touch it anyway to make it sound new because its stated. Yeah, you know, it's like put a car, put a put a put a Ferrari in the garage for twelve years, fourteen years, and then think you're just gonna pull it out and it's just gonna crank up and just dry. You're gonna have to touch it. You gotta do a bunch of shit. Yeah, you know, but it's still a Ferrari. I would be honest to say I gotta he'd tell me. He'd be telling me to come to the studio all the time next time. I got hundreds of beats, Bro, That'll just I love. They just sit there and I'm still me. I'm still sucking around, bro, Like you know, I'm still I'm still around the best motherfucking musicians, you know what I mean. I'm still around the you know, the ones that they're living again. I'm still around the heat. I'm still on tour. I just I got Atlanta this year to two arena shows in Atlanta boom and like you said, fifty three that's incredible feet. I'm still passionate about it though I still wake up sometimes geek and I listened to my ship on my phone. I'll be like, I'm dope. Very few people can say they have their own Zione quick, Bro, I'm very few people. I'm a rarefied air. As they say, you're lefty. That's what it is. That's all it is. I just I'm in my right mind, especially musically. I'm always thinking about what's next. I don't think about what happened. And if I do sample something, I sample something on my new sample shit on my new ship. But it's still Curtis Mayfield that nobody's ever heard, you know what I mean, And the way I freaked it is just cold blooded Jack. I'm cold bloody with that ship. All these people. You know, Kanye had to admit that, you know, Yeah, I sample some of your drums before I'm like, I hear you, bro. His whole ship was explosive. You always like that break off the Doctor Dre's explosive Boucatte Boukatte. So he that was his whole shit. Every record was, you know, on that West Coast shit. But it wouldn't be no him without me. I'm one of the first guys to do the whole, to be the complete package, the musician, the producer, and the artist. Yeah, it is that weird, Huh. We should have gave it to you earlier. Five Dinner Guest Dead Alive again Five Dinner Guest Dead Alive? Um? Who I would eat with? I keep saying his name, but yeah, Curtis Mayfield, George Clinton, Um, what's my man's name? My goodness? Just the rare one is Gil Scott Heron and he was doing all the revolutionary music. Um, Aliyah you know. Um and that's the first alia we got and Tupac again again again we broke bread a lot mm hm hmmm. Uh. One album you can listen to with no no skips, without not not none of your shit somebody else's uh no skip records? Uh the chronic One Doggy Style, um one, Who who is that? Who is that? It's not digital underground? Um X Clan, m M to the East Black Orts easily record, y'all, y'all, don't hear my brother to the Ease with Brother J. To this day, it's greatest voice in hip hop easily. Um Criminal Minded Booky Down Productions is a no skipper um Uh, Slick Ricks Children's story is dope kind of all the way through. Um And if I had to do one more hip hop or R and B, whatever you want, because you know hip hop is you know, hip hop has his moments of greatness. But um, Marvin Gays was going on, it's a fucking great record. Yeah, cold Blooded still prolific to this day. Um all Luther Vandross's first albums. Don't ask me why, Fat fat Fat Luther. That's the only man that ever starts struck me. Bro I wrote a flight. Ironically enough, after we did the Madnessist Square Garden show, I flew home early Sugart me an early flight, and I'm sitting in first class with this guy sitting here in the fucking Versassi shirt. Before I ever knew where Versati was, his little perm was sticking up, and shit, I'm like, fuck, is this thing I'm hanging over like a little bit, you know whatever. My man gets up to go pee and it's Luther Van Ross and oh my god, like you was sitting next to him, yeah, right in first class like I was in one A and he was like in one seed in the middle row, a little bit forward. But I wanted to tell him everything his music meant to me, but the words wouldn't come out. Starstruck Bro finally met that dude. Um and um um painting for Eric B and Raccoon. Do you have even Chinese arithmetic? People didn't like that record. I like it. Did you have? Do you have? Do you have a favorite project you've done? Um? I'm super proud of they all have something magic in them. Uh. And not to just keep saying this, but my new record is a no skip. It's like it's just fucking funky and my tone. I changed my whole tone, Like I don't wrapping the high pitch voice no more what you're wrapping this high voice? No on this album. I'm just in and I'm you know, I'm more like chill, you know what I mean, like high, like oh yeah, high pitched all that, like you're high, the high voice, the chill, that's yeah. Yeah. They ain't just about being high. It's like I'm trying to make that a persona dang now you know cool Now I didn't. You know I used to be hyper. Motherfucker's accusing me of being goofy. And shit, if I if I seem goofy, it's because I'm just being happy that I'm here because I see too much tragedy here and that's my reaction to that shit Like nigga, I can still breathe. Yeah, I mean all that if you want to, I'm happy. Fuck that. So if I see if I seem over zealous just because I'm here, Compton, that's hard, that's hard. Um Compton. Huh damn Um, I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna say ice que because of n wa um MC eight is dope at fu on the on the mic you camp front. You know, we had our little issues. MC eight is the shit UM still to today and he's on kendricks album, which is monumental. The album hip hop album has been on the charts longer than any other album. So as a hell of a comeback. Um, I'm cold blooded with an inkpen. I show off when I show off. We know that UM king t as a beast. You know, that's one of the records that inspired me to be who I am. Is act a fool Capitol Records, UM, And I like YG. He's for the kids, you know what I mean. He's for the generation, right, you know generation whether they z you know, I'm axer they they are millennials, right, So he's for them. But I get it. I know why it's hot. Um yea and mc raynalds a beast, two c RNs cold and I feel like I'm forgetting somebody. But you say Kendricks, Kendrick, don't count Kendrick. He's on the He's beyond Compton. Compton's too small for him. He's on the world stage and he just so happens to be from Compton, ironically enough. But yeah, he Kendrick could have made it in any state, any city. If y'all know what I'm saying, I hope I ain't overdoing it. But he just seemed like he could have just made it anywhere. He just he he has this thing that nobody has. Yeah, I'll say Kendrick, Well, Kendrick's number one at this point because he writes. He writes shit that you like at any age, kids and us, he got both of them. How do you do that? How do you make that last a long time? And that nigga last album was bonkers? That fucking album is sick. Your Mount Rushmore of hip hop top four in your opinion top four of hip hop rap or hip hop rap um easily rock him and his prodigal son Nash Biggiean Tupac. H m hmm. You know, even though ice Cube is still a fucking beast always some guys just like that's Mount Westmore Rushmore. Rather, if you can see one person on our show, who would it be? But y'all had too short yet, but you have to help us get your answer on the show. We have yeah short already. Yeah, they't afordy together at the same time. That's fun. You know that was a fun self fucking Um, somebody does in hip hop or any genre whoever. You want to see that you can help get on here. Yeah you heard that part though, right, But you gotta help him. You gotta help us get them when you know. Okay, but there's gotta be somebody that's worth worth the hour. Doctor, I missed the hint that it was. It was that seven leagues. Y'all tell me who y'all think? Who was y'all like for me to oh the good doctor? Oh yeah, doctor yeah, yeah, Doctor Drake. I see yeah, I see Doctor dre being hella busy. Yeah, like I see him being super busy, um, you know, enjoying his time in the studio again. He's working on a secret project with with Dog and they're having fun. I mean, it's really not a secret snoop snoop posted all the time. But the title is the Ship and if it comes off, it's gonna be is when it comes out, it's gonna be a motherfucking beast. But when speaking of coming and whens your project coming out? Um? April five is my date? Serious? Come on? Man? If not third, if I missed that, I gott shoot videos just did my artwork covering over how many songs I'm gonna do Chen just like d Chocs Drake. I got that from dre. If you can't get them with Chan, you can't get them. But they just gotta beat the Chen. No skips, you know, everything else is filler, like yeah, it's it's it's a beast bro um first single is supposed to be next month? What is it March seventeen? Any features? I didn't really want no features on this. I have enough to talk about. I got second and none of them doing that thing on their inn amg because it is my brothers. But I got them at a high level, like what was y'all sound like? Now you know I motivated them to get to go in, But yeah, no real features. I got this. Well, man, we appreciate your time. We want to make sure you know how important you are to all of us and how great you are. And uh man, it's an honor to call you a friend. Come on, Matt, do you know you're my guy? Bro? You gave me some of the fun times, bro, Like damn that football game farking had that playback, I would have checked that little Nega out of Bounce scrore on me. I sc trying to get his flag. I should just pop his nds. We still want though. Yeah, that was a great day, bro. We appreciate you man. Come on, man, thank you for your time. Appreciate you you man. Wait hard, I'll see if you see, we're gonna make it work. Doctor dr he said, called doctor Dre. Well, that's a rap DJ quick all the smoke, great, La, run bro brother as we do catch Oh back to sweaty pumps. You can catch his more. You're wet. Let My hands are not sweaty, bro, My hands are wet now. Anyway, we'll get us catching us shows, hot basketball, YouTube and the iHeart platform Black Effects. We'll see y'all next time.