2025-12-12- KSR - Hour 1

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Speaker 4: Now Here's Matt Jones.

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Speaker 2: Welcome everyone. It is Kentucky Sports Radio. Friday, December the twelfth. I'm Matt Jones on a snowy day all across Central and parts of Eastern Kentucky. You can give us a shout. Clark's Publin Shop Fall nine eight five nine two eight oh twenty two eighty seven. A Vision Autoglass text machine is seven seven two four five two five four. This edition sponsored by the T. J. Smith Office called TJ O'll make Them Pay. It is a snow day here at Kosbar Grill Fate Counties out of school.

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Speaker 5: Right, most counties, I think we're out of school. Roads were a little dicey last night, but they weren't too bad this morning.

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Speaker 2: Yes, so we got folks here from Lexington. Let's see, was it Uh wait a minute, do you tell me Nicholasville, Morehead? Morehead and you were Nicholas County right? See look at that. Pretty pretty good memory. But nice to have folks who drove in and you can come on out with rare Friday here at the bar.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, my man here Morehead roller this morning that it was kind of rough over there, but didn't look bad on the interstate or anything.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I got a lot of snow in Louisville, right, was it.

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Speaker 4: Louisville four inches?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a lot more. I think that's more than we got here. So, uh, stay safe, Shannon, But you know, Shannon comes to work no matter what. Did you stay downtown? You know sometimes they let you all stay downtown for a snow to know.

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Speaker 4: I made the tripping from Bullet County this morning. Roads were pretty clear for the most part, so it wasn't too bad.

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Speaker 2: See Craig Greenberg keeping those roads Rowland.

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Speaker 5: Well Drew and I noticed that when our local weather guys didn't have the coats off, the sleeves up. It couldn't be too serious.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, people are people be you know, the the weather men wore over snow totals is great because you got Mark Weinberg there in Louisville. You know, he's the sassiest of all of them. Yes, he's very said Bill Meck and Chris Bailey. They don't like each other, but they try to keep it civil. But you know they don't like each other, right, Oh, they make it like each other. They don't like each other. You know, you.

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Speaker 6: Can tell you kind of have to be rivals a little bit that you do.

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Speaker 2: It's part of the part of the game. I mean, they throw little shots at each other. I mean because Chris Bailey will be like, hey mech face. Yeah remember that.

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Speaker 5: I don't remember seeing mech face.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. There was a couple of blizzards ago, and then there's like oh Bailey, Smaylee. But in Louisville, Mark Weinberg seems to hate the rest of them. And Mark Weinberg's notorious for you don't scare. Don't scare people. You tell him all this snow's coming and it's not he doesn't like that, so he is very Uh, he's conservative on the snow totals, right, he's he's a mag on snow totals. It's not gonna be too many snow toes. And then when you get he under if he underdoes, the snow people are like, see told you so. I picture in Louisville the weather people as the snows falling, cheering it or booing it because they seem to have vested interests in how much the more snow the worse for Wineberg. The less snow the better for Wineberg.

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Speaker 5: Did he enter predict this today and to get some pushback.

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Speaker 2: Today, Hey, he underpred I think he maybe said one to two inches, and I guess it's like four. And everybody's like, see Wineberg, I was gonna go get bread, and now I can't get bread.

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Speaker 3: Because you it's the way he says it though, like he is very sassic, smarmy, like very smart.

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Speaker 4: This is what it's going to be. Don't listen to anybody.

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Speaker 2: Don't listen to the European totals. I got American totals, and he doesn't. He doesn't like it.

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Speaker 6: Think how nerve wracking it must be, though, I mean most days you say it's seventy four and sunny, it's seventy one and there's a cloud. No one cares, so your credit building. He's really determined on these few snow days a.

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Speaker 2: Year for Mark Weinberg and Chris Bailey and Mechface. Like the when the snow comes is like it during a basketball game. They get in a shower. Oh okay, they get nervous. They're pacing back and forth and they're going, come on, God, make it snow more. That's what they do.

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Speaker 5: We've had quite a bit of snot a right. I can't believe you all.

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Speaker 2: Didn't know this. I didn't know that part. I knew that. I knew the mech face part. Didn't know about the showers.

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Speaker 5: I didn't know that. You know, the ins and out to a local weatherman's.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if the rest of the country's weather people have beef like this, but our weather people have beef. It's uh, all right, So tomorrow's Kentucky, Indiana. I mean, we have to win, right Like, if we don't win, I don't know if you know this. If you if we don't, you have to join the army. Little girl, I don't know why, Like, what those are the rules. I'm sorry, that's just the rules.

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Speaker 6: But we have to win right certainly now I didn't know that aspect. I'll admit I don't really get nervous about games. I'm pretty nervous about this one and have been for a few days.

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Speaker 2: Why is that?

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Speaker 6: I think we'll win? But also said this about North Carolina a week ago. We'll be a favorite, We're at home, crowd will be good, especially with the rivalry coming back. But it's just in the back of my mind the but if we don't, yeah, it's gonna be how ugly that will be? And I said this right before the UNC game and it didn't pan out that well.

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Speaker 2: So Mark's Story wrote in The Harald Leader, and I thought this was I'm going to actually criticize a Harald Leader writer a little bit later, so let's praise it Harold. Okay, I thought Mark Story had a really good article about is UK turning indi Indiana. That was kind of the premise, are we becoming like we all acknowledge that Indiana basketball has been irrelevant for twenty years and we don't want to consider ourselves to be that. Like, if you look historically at the programs. Historically the six best programs in some order have been Carolina, Kentucky, Duke, North Carolina, Kansas in Indiana. I think you now can probably put Yukon in that list. So now you're at seven. Louisville's probably nacked, but really I sort of do the top six, and UCLA is not UCLA. So now you're down to five. And I think generally speaking, Indiana is not Indiana and hasn't been in twenty years. So really you're down to four. North Carolina's kind of wavering, but they're still Carolina and they make the tournament most years. I don't think we're even Carolina, So I still think we're in that Duke, Kentucky, Kansas, but we are starting to okay, are we getting to this Carolina phase or are we getting close to the Indiana phase To lose to Indiana, I think Ryan would make those questions that Mark asked feel a little stronger.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, Indiana for us old timers is still Indiana. You see that name on the jersey only for you all. But you can't let North Carolina come in and punk you, and then Indiana coming and punk You're back?

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Speaker 2: Do you think we're becoming Indiana if they lose this game.

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Speaker 5: I think Mark Storama is a very strong argument that we could be in that category. That's why you have to win this game. This is a huge must win game because nobody.

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Speaker 2: Thinks of Indiana as a top program anymore. I mean, I would say, if you were to ask someone twenty five and under, who are the top programs? I don't think any of them are gonna say Indiana. Like no more people would say Purdue than Indiana at this point, which has got to drive Indiana fans crazy, but it would probably be true. And there is something symbolic if they come in here and beat us on Saturday with maybe their best player being a guy that Ryan reported was playing here and it didn't happen.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think we're still a little bit of ways of becoming Indiana, but we're on a path heading straight for it. I mean, we're two years away from people saying Kentucky has one title in thirty years. It's already been a decade since we've been to the Final four. I mean, I think Kentucky can turn it around, but if we keep doing this, can't get to Saturday of the sec tournament and can't get past the second or third game of the NCAA tournament. Then those drought gets long enough that I think you can say that and we're not too far from it.

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Speaker 2: And you know it's been for me. It's like since COVID, I mean COVID, I sort of wonder if in the history of America there's gonna be like there are these little like breaking, like like changing points of society. It's like World War two, I don't know, Vietnam, and then it may be the I don't know. Actually, I don't know that there's another one than nine to eleven, and then I think COVID is gonna be the next one. I think that's kind of like sort of the four break, Like things in society changed at this point, and I think COVID is won for a variety of reasons. But when it just comes to Kentucky basketball, it does feel like COVID was a changing point that everything's been worse since then. And I don't know, I feel like Saturday is gonna I feel like Saturday matters more than it should.

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Speaker 5: I do too, man, and we all thought maybe maybe, you know, this was supposed to be the year where you get back to relevance. We started out what top three in the country beat Purdue in the Exibich game. We're pounding our chest thinking we're back making a run to the title, and it's just kind of falling apart since then. So I think this is huge for the perception of Kentucky basketball. They have to win this game till tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: And there's been a lot of negativity since the Gonzaga game. I mean, the KSR story obviously has probably been the centerpiece of it. But the Athletic has a story this morning about it's a little different. It's kind of focused on how bad this team is and sort of how did we get here to where this team is bad? You know, field of sixty eight did a grades halfway or you know, a quarterway into the season, and the only f went to Kentucky, which I think is probably fair. You know this, I don't think beating Indiana cures it, but maybe it puts, as Barney would say, Shannon, a miracle salve on it a little bit to help the bleeding at least until next week.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we need something.

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Speaker 3: We just need this win just to be able to feel good about what's ahead for this team because the SEC schedule's coming up, and that's gonna be I mean, I know the SE's he isn't what it has been, but it's still gonna be tough.

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Speaker 2: Well, we may feel we actually may take a deep breath when the SEC comes. At least the hardest game is at Alabama, and that's the first one, but then after that it actually starts to become a little more doable.

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Speaker 6: I'm worried with Saturday. Even people that are optimistic thinking this will get turned around, at some point, your resume will be too bad even if they and figure it out. I mean, if you go zero to five in these games, two of them being Reperino, where you're a favorite, right, Like, I really start worrying about making the tournament, even if they do come together in February, just because at some point you have to have some quality wins.

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Speaker 2: I'm listen, I'm not saying we're in the tournament and we're gonna have we got a decent chance of having six non conference losses. I mean, you're gonna get to the point that if you keep losing these games. I know the conference is down, but we've had years where the conferences down. We still go fourteen and four. Well, fourteen and four if we have six losses gives us ten losses going into the still going into the tournament.

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Speaker 6: It dropped it on seed on the bracketology.

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Speaker 2: I know that seed. We haven't beaten anyone.

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Speaker 5: What's our best quality wine in the country.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we haven't beaten anybody. But yeah, that's one of that.

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Speaker 5: Tomorrow's game kind of scares me a little bit because there's so much on the line. I think as far as Kentucky basketball goes that, Lamar Wilkinson comes in and shoots hits ten threes again.

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Speaker 2: So what do we do about that? Like what if Lamar Wilkerson I kind of read this game for you. Yeah, have you been looking at this like this is people are gonna be mad at me.

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Speaker 5: Well, especially after he hit ten threes the other night, scored forty four points. I thought, oh boy, so.

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Speaker 2: Remind people why you were because I was. I was gone. Remind people why you were so convinced he was coming.

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Speaker 5: He was down to the you know, the final minutes of a commitment, and I got a note from a source that has been right every single.

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Speaker 2: Time, every time except one.

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Speaker 5: Well, he after that point he was right every time.

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Speaker 2: Okay, got you.

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Speaker 5: He said, Hey, Wilgerson has committed to Kentucky. It'll be announced tomorrow. So we come on the show the next morning, make the announcement. By the time the show's over, he's committed to Indiana.

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Speaker 2: What happened? What DIDs the source say happened?

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Speaker 5: Indiana came after with a better deal. They sweetened the pot, got a better deal for him.

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Speaker 2: So that you know, in the KSR story, that's what they said happened with Caleb Wilson too. Last minute pot sweetener. Why are we sweetening exactly? I mean we're Kentucky. I mean there comes a point. I think there comes a point, Drew, when you're looking at this where Okay, if you're with it's sort of like I kind of looked at Stoops's bio a little bit differently when somebody said to me, Okay, Matt, yes we owe thirty seven million, but let's say we bring him back. How much do we owe him after next year? And the answer was twenty seven million? And he's like, so, really, the difference is not thirty seven or zero, it's ten million dollars. It's thirty seven or twenty seven, which is just a different way of looking the math. If Lamar Wilkinson, I don't know what we offered him, Let's say we offered him two and Indiana came and said two and a half. I mean your question is not does hederve two and a half or zero? It's you were already gonna give him two? So are you willing to do five hundred thousand more dollars? And if you believe that we spent twenty two million dollars, then I'd hate to have thought five hundred thousand. I mean, what's the different from twenty two and twenty two point five? I mean at some point like we stink or do you think think they just didn't think they needed.

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Speaker 6: Anything on him, specifically that they like hired as high school coach or somebody close to him. They sweetened the pot with that Kentucky couldn't do it. But that's still true in several other recruits like Caleb Wilson, Like if you're already that far and he's already interested in you, I mean, I'm pretty convinced we've had several verbal commits that just couldn't get over the hump.

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Speaker 2: Donovan Dent told him he was coming. I mean they had last year. Caleb Wilson, Donovan Dent and Lamar Wilson told them they were coming. Wow, and then they didn't come. And you know why, I guess is you know, is in the eyes of whoever did it. Three Yeah, three top guys, I mean top guys. Now Dallavan Din has not ended up being great at UCLA, but they all three told them they were gonna come.

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Speaker 6: And in the current class. I mean there's stories out just from yesterday from national people about how Kentucky had Stokes in October and just you know, fumbled him.

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Speaker 2: And maybe if we lose both those guys, if you don't get Stokes or Collins because both were at the finish line pretty much ready, or the reports from not just local like that's national people saying Kentucky had complete control of both those guys. Are we going to win tomorrow? Yes, Yes, we've been about a four point favorite.

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Speaker 5: We'll cover.

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Speaker 2: We'll all be smiling tomorrow, you know.

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Speaker 3: I actually I think they will because you got to get one of these. You can't go Owen, he's still I got Saint John's coming up next weekend.

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Speaker 2: Too. No, I'll just note I've been on hot streak of when you three picks up mails and I go like, I had the Falcons last night. I was on Falcons. Y oh you were okay, they we're experts. That's true. We are experts. That's a good point. Were paid for the NFL eight. I'm nine twenty two eighty seven. Uh. The text machine is seven sive in two seven seven four five two five four. We will take a break. We are here at ks bar and grill. This is Kentucky Sports Radio. Marcome back, it is Kentucky Sports Radio. I was just telling this story. I don't know if I'm supposed to tell this story.

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Speaker 5: Well, I was into the story because I never heard it before. Yeah, it's the great story you're starting.

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Speaker 2: We'll just keep this shit in between us, all right. So first take is on right here. They filmed this in Seaport, which is down next to uh, like in Manhattan. It's down the bottom end of the island on the thing about where the World Trade Center is. It's like on the other side of the island, so the east side of Manhattan, but not I mean, it's only a few blocks in the World Trade Center, but that's where they filmed this and one time. You may remember I had to do this show there. Remember I had to borrow the studio there because I left the equipment. So I went down there. They let me in and as I was getting off the subway, I was walking from the subway, a limo pulled up or like a like an suv with multiple SUVs behind it. And I was thinking, because I knew first take was there, I was thinking, maybe they're having like a huge gust on like there was like four limos. I was like, is the president. He's like Obama coming on here, like what's what's going on? And all of a sudden he gets out stephen A and he is surrounded. Immediately these other people get out and like they they escort me in. It's like, you know, probably six security guards. And I look around and there ain't one other person anywhere. Not only is there nobody, like like it's cold outside, there's no one anywhere. And so as they were walking in, I kind of joined the group to act like they're like they were escorting me, like you know, let me in with But it was funny like he had he had an entourage of security.

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Speaker 6: That doesn't surprise me really with his ego and I just think every morning he does that probably to the same empty sidewalk.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean there's there's like a mall area down there, so I'm sure if the weather's good, there probably are a lot of people. But this was was weather like this. There was no one.

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Speaker 4: There was no one out, which is we are doing that for us, even though we should get.

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Speaker 2: I don't have. I have no My mom is always like, you all should have security, and I'm like, I would feel silly. We got We got Billy Mario, he breaks he breaks things. Yeah, so that will work. Text machine is seven seven two four five two five four. I'll get to Texas a second. But football schedule came out yet, Yes it did. SEC football schedule. I tweeted. I tweeted it out, and I said we were going to be uh eleven and one. I think people didn't rise. I was being a little facetious in saying that.

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Speaker 5: Took you serious? Did the national people take you serious?

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Speaker 2: Uh? I don't know, but fans of other schools. So let's go through it. We open with Youngstown.

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Speaker 5: State big win. Will stein Era opened to a big win.

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Speaker 2: Then week two, the Alabama Crimson Tide come to Lexington they're not easing will into this Bama comes to town. When I saw this, here's what I thought, Drew, that's gonna be an awesome environment. If you look at the SEC schedule that week, there are no other good games between two SEC teams, which means this is gonna be ABC under the lights, prime time. It's gonna be right here and it's gonna be awesome. Like we probably get crushed, but the environment for that week two, September twelfth, I'd buy the tickets now because that'll be a full stadium and it will be under the lights. It'll be nationally. We might have Herbstreet and Fowler for that game. If we don't, we'll have somebody good. It'll be great.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, when they first pop it up on the Reville Alabama week two, it's kind of like whoa. But then you think about it. You gotta play them at sometime. We already knew they're on the schedule. Let's just get it out of the way. As we saw this year, Alabama took a bad loss early in the season. It takes him a little while to get going.

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Speaker 2: Actually, it might be three thirty because Texas plays Ohio State that gay that that that'll probably be the night game, so let's just say it'll be three thirty. But go ahead.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, we've been in that spot the last couple of seasons with and all that hadn't gone well for us. But yeah, I mean sure, will Stein probably didn't expect Alabama would be his first SEC.

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Speaker 2: Game, but let's get over the way, let's go there.

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Speaker 6: Expectations will be a little or for his debut. You know, if he's playing a Vandy or a Missouri or something, there'd be you'd want him to be right.

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Speaker 2: Oh, it'll be fun like and I also like playing week two and week three. Let's just play the games we'd probably lose anyway, so we can kind of get our feet under us. So then we can play the games that we have a chance to win, right because like when you play oh miss or South Carolina and we and then you lose, like we knew the season was over with Alabama, we're expecting to lose anyway.

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Speaker 5: Welcome to the SEC, will Stein. And the schedule is kind of top heavy. We like you said, they've got those games open the season.

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Speaker 2: Week three at A and M step back to back.

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Speaker 3: I mean, come on, Alabama game though his house money. But if you were to win that game.

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Speaker 2: Oh, it'd be Can you imagine if we won that game? Yeah? Can you imagine, Like, can you imagine what this city would be like if will Stein were to beat Alabama in this second game, second after putting seven? Yeah, I mean stop it, that would be it's not gonna happen. We've only beat Alabama twice in the history of this school, which is an amazing stat But you're saying there's a chance, but you know there's a chance. Then at A and M.

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Speaker 6: Then we hear well, hold on, hear me out on A and M. Maybe they don't change their playbook. We have their defensive coordinator. It's earlier in the year. They're still running this year's plays.

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Speaker 2: Like Shannon Dawson and reverg We go in.

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Speaker 6: And we steal that one too. We're now three and oh, Matt, don know how we got here in the conversation.

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Speaker 2: But let's keep it up. South Alabama's week four. Then you get that. Let's say you lose those first two games. Now you get your legs back, and then you hit a stretch where I think these are the important games At South Carolina, that's always a swing game. Always although didn't we go there last year, We have to go there two years in a row. Yeah, that's where they rein LSU at home. Winnable. Yep. Next year going to be winnable. I know they'll have lame but but it's winnable because they're not built yet. We know their plays too. Yeah, at Oklahoma and then we finished with Vanderbilt at Tennessee, Florida, at Missouri home Louisville. You can win some of those games. So like they have the first half of the season to get their feet under them and then you can win some games in the second half and maybe make a bowl.

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Speaker 6: Got a bye week before Tennessee, bye week on Halloween weekend.

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Speaker 2: That's that's rare. Have that weekend. Get little break before Knoxville. That's good.

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Speaker 5: We like to trick and treat just one by week in the new schedule format. What just one by week in the new schedule format.

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Speaker 2: That's that's tough with a nine game SEC. It is, but but it's in a good spot. We'll take it. Actually, don't mind this. I would rather that. I'd rather it be top heavy next year, especially with will step will Stein finding his feet and if you could win and again I don't think he probably will. But if you could win Alabama at A and M or that at Oklahoma, if you could find a way to win one of those, you would kind of launch your your whole thing and I Liken.

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Speaker 6: At the end of the year, you have Missouri and Louisville at home, or not Missouri, who's a Vandy? You have two home games Florida Florida and Litvle home instead of this. You know, we played Tennessee Tech last year on Senior Day. Nobody's there. It's been that way for a few years. You're actually closing your home schedule with well, you have Florida.

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Speaker 2: And Louisville at home with at Missouri in the middle. I mean you can look at that and go, why can't we win all three of those to finish the season? Why can't we Why can't we win all three of those?

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Speaker 5: It's you know, it's a great home schedule with Alabama, Louisville, John Summer and Florida, Lang Kiffin and LSU.

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Speaker 2: It's a great home If you got for people like I'm canceling my season tickets, I'd wait a year, amen. I mean Alabama, LSU, Florida, Louisville. That's a pretty good that's a pretty good group right there. We got to give some raw a little welcome home to in that spot. Yeah. And I think the other one is, uh what Vandy. Yeah, so you got the homes. Tickets are Youngstown State, Alabama, South of Alabama, LSU, Vandy, Florida, Louisville. It's a pretty good group. See all Atlanta eleven to one. Dude, if we beat Louisville, I mean we're going to right yeah, I mean we'll probably be favored. We might lose one or two games, know we're gonna win. We'll take a break, take a calls right for this KSR. TJ. Smith, personal injury attorney called TJ.

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Speaker 4: He'll make them pay now.

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Speaker 4: Here's Matt Joe.

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Speaker 2: Quarterback in his Kentucky Sports Radio. Here it's KS Bar and Grill. I got folks who've come in from all over on a snow day. You can bring your kids out here and uh.

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Speaker 5: Feed them food, build a snowman out yeah, I don't.

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Speaker 2: Know if we can. There's we don't want to building snow mits. And there's snow is gone. We put salt out there so people don't fall there. We go, I guess yeah, aff nine two, eight oh, twenty two, eighty seven. It is baffling to me how many people Louisville, Tennessee and Arkansas fans think I was serious about the eleven one. Do they really think that I think we're going eleven to one with that schedule? I mean we are, but like they do, they really think that I'm stepping out. But part of you, part of you was joking. Yeah, I mean a small part on the internet. If we went eleven to one, which one are we most likely to lose? Yeah? Oklahoma probably at A and M Yeah, I'm gonna give them that one. Rest of them though we're winning. I think Mamazon for a root awaken.

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Speaker 5: When's the last time we played Oklahoma?

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Speaker 2: Didn't we play them like the Orange Bowl in nineteen fifty? Be the answer is that?

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Speaker 5: The answer?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean, I don't know if we've played them since then, but I remember people always saying we played that game in nineteen fifty. I know in seven ninety some of you said that it's just like the show went off, Shinnon and it was just a ringing dial tone.

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Speaker 4: I don't even know.

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Speaker 2: I have a serious question. Is there any other show in America that has as many technical difficulties as are? Like? I like sometimes I feel bad because I always like write and complain or verbally complain. But that I've been listening to Ray my whole life, and I've never turned it on and just heard.

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Speaker 5: A dial tone tell you what else?

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Speaker 2: Like ever, I've never won one time on any station if I turned it on and it was just mariachi music all the time. And it feels like I get told this every couple of weeks, and it it can't be that this is what it's like everywhere.

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Speaker 5: We all listen to the radio in our car at home. Have you ever heard a fire alarm go off during a show?

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Speaker 2: No, I've never heard anything except music and people talking. But this show, you never know what you'll hear. It might be a horse just named for ten minutes.

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Speaker 6: I can't even think of a show that just drops off the air while I'm listening to it either.

00:25:09
Speaker 2: No, I mean, you know it is what it is. There's no reason to get for us part of the charm. Yeah, I have your Oklahoma answer. By the way, when the last time we played Oklahoma, we did get them in nineteen fifty one, went up one oh in the series. But then they played twice in the eighties and we lost both. Okay, we lost twenty nine to eight and twenty nine to seven. Yeah, kind of random there, So don't let them get to twenty nine. We'll get them if I'm nine two eight, twenty two, eighty seven? Who's up? First call? Cow? Go ahead, cow?

00:25:40
Speaker 7: Hey, Good morning guys, KSR. How y'all doing today?

00:25:45
Speaker 2: Doing good? Uh?

00:25:48
Speaker 7: First time caller?

00:25:49
Speaker 2: Who are so?

00:25:52
Speaker 7: I actually got a quick question, h and also a recommendation. My quick question is was y'all excited to as I was when Pope got into Garrison's face and told him to go sit down?

00:26:05
Speaker 2: Yeah? And I was because I think it was needed. I mean, Garrison, I don't think it's been. I don't think it's like saying going out of school to say he's been. He's been an issue all year, and maybe that chewing him out and not playing him in the second half, maybe that turns him around. Maybe it helps we'll see. I mean the team turned around when he did that year? Did They went on sixteen oh run right after he did it, so maybe it had some of some positive effect.

00:26:32
Speaker 8: Sure.

00:26:33
Speaker 7: And my recommendation is is that I've heard that y'all went to a bunch of pizza places as well. So I got a recommendation for y'all. So out in western Kentucky. Over in Princeton, Kentucky, there's a pizza place called Polyize Pizza, and if you ever if y'all never been there, I advise y'all to go. That their deep dish is to die for.

00:26:57
Speaker 2: I appreciate the call the Princeton Polyides Pizza. I will put that on the list. I still would like to at some point put on a restaurant guide for Kentucky book. The problem is, I don't know whenever I would ever do it. And uh, you know, I thought about even like hiring somebody to go and like test it. And because I think it would be good if you had a here's the best place to eat in every town, every county. Yeah, I think that would be a really cool thing to have. I just don't know that I would ever do it, but I'd love to do. I think if we published that and sold it, I bet we could sell a lot of copies of Best place to Eat in all these towns in Kentucky. Would wouldn't that be good?

00:27:35
Speaker 5: Be awesome? We've gone to some really cool places over the years. I liked when it was it called five Broke Sisters. We stopped firebro Girls coming back from Nashville.

00:27:44
Speaker 2: But I feel like we haphazardly know where to eat. If we were able to, like.

00:27:49
Speaker 5: Want to sell a pool hall, yeah, but.

00:27:52
Speaker 2: I don't know that we'll well, we will, we will do that. What is Prince?

00:27:56
Speaker 5: Is that Calwell County? What county?

00:27:57
Speaker 2: It is? Calwell? Okay it is if I'm nine, two eighth, twenty two eighty seven. Who's up next year? Jerry, Jerry, go ahead, Jerry hey Man.

00:28:07
Speaker 8: First off, I want to say, you know, after a while put to my dad last six months, you and your family and my prayers and and I wish you nothing but the best as you work your way through this. Thank you and uh but uh but you know me, I was a big summer of guy and I have fab and really pleased everything those Stun's done. And he reminds me of a lot of Frank Kurse because they're both in the mid thirties and they got hied young, aggressive offensive guys hopefully he's found a good defensive coordinator. I think he has to be excited about what's to come, and it's gonna be issuing to watch. But I don't know how much you followed all this stuff with some all out Florida. But that's commissioned to watch too, because he's walking into a horrange nest down there.

00:28:49
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't. I'm I'm actually not gonna do that to myself, to be honest with you, Jerry, like the summer off stuff. I hope he has success at Florida. I think it does will Stein a disservice to compare what will Stein does at Kentucky with what John's mistake.

00:29:07
Speaker 8: That's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is is that where Stein's going to have a bit of a honeymoon here to get his stuff in place, some of all's not going to have that. If he didn't win nine games, they think they have a playoff team down there. If he'll win nine games down there, next year, he's gonna be on the hot season. So Strickling they think they didn't get kissing because because Strickland was too much of a straight laced Barry klonb.

00:29:35
Speaker 2: Call Jerry, here we go. I mean you can feel Jerry get worked. Like Jerry, He'll start, he'll be measured, and then it's almost like a lawn bower. You can feel him like right, and then he's uh, he's gone. I don't really care what happens in Florida. I want will Stein to succeed and Summer all has some options, like, he's got some things down there. He's got a better roster than we do next year. Jerry's right, Florida is supposed to be good next year, so he might go and win nine or ten games. That doesn't mean he would have done it here, and that doesn't mean will Stein wouldn't have done it there, right, Drew, It's their different situations, fully different situations.

00:30:12
Speaker 6: But Jerry is right that they're gonna be so mad when he loses at Kentucky on November fourteenth.

00:30:17
Speaker 5: It's that's another schedule blip where Florida's home two years in a row.

00:30:21
Speaker 2: Here, Yeah, with the reset, When do we play him this year? Is it? How late in the year is November fourteenth so it could be cold? Yeah, we said that I think this year and then it wasn't cool it was not cold, but we won anyway. Yeah, maybe maybe this year it's cold. Couldna get another Florida coach fired?

00:30:37
Speaker 5: We've done pretty good at that over the years.

00:30:39
Speaker 2: Eight I'm nine eight twenty two eighty seven. One person writes, Matt, I would like to know this answer from all of you.

00:30:45
Speaker 5: Okay, ready, all right?

00:30:49
Speaker 2: Uh see him walk in? Yeah, what deed? Where would you all like to go in the world that you haven't been on a vacation? All right? Ryan's answers go to be the worst, So let's uh, he's gonna say something like Myrtle beach? What what? What? What would you say? Drew?

00:31:07
Speaker 6: I don't want to give the lame answer, but Italy is high on my bucket list.

00:31:11
Speaker 2: Yeah, I haven't done much traveling out that way. Uh.

00:31:15
Speaker 6: Maybe to be a little different, because that's like one of the most popular answers, I'll say, Australia. Go check on Max and see what they've got going on over there.

00:31:21
Speaker 2: Okay, I like that answer. You can say Italy. Everyone should. I would argue if you've not gone outside of like Canada, US, Mexico, Italy is as good a place as you're gonna find for a combination of beach, historic wine, beautiful like what carbs carb yes, food like Italy is probably the best combination of all of that stuff you could you could say if you haven't been, I totally get that, Shannon, what would you say? I have three?

00:31:51
Speaker 4: But I'm trying to like near one.

00:31:53
Speaker 2: Listen, this guy's only like to go to one place.

00:31:55
Speaker 4: I guess I've had to pick one. London, England.

00:31:57
Speaker 2: Okay, but that's that's very due. Now, London. You love New York, right, London is a lot like New York.

00:32:03
Speaker 4: I think I would like it.

00:32:04
Speaker 2: I think that I think you would like it a lot. I think for me, next would probably be Japan. Uh, you know, I haven't haven't ever been. I think that would be a lot of stuff to see there, and you know, it's just a completely different world. So I would say Japan is next for me. Now, now, Ryan, let's play a game. What is Ryan gonna guess?

00:32:25
Speaker 4: Gatlinburg?

00:32:27
Speaker 2: He's gonna say, he's gonna say, gatlin Have you been to Branson, Missouri? I have not? All right, I'm gonna I have. I don't know the place he's gonna say, but I have a guess that I'll say after of the kind of thing he's gonna say, where would you like to go?

00:32:43
Speaker 5: There's been one place since I was a little kid dreamed of going to, and it won't change it. I'm gonna go there for a die.

00:32:49
Speaker 2: Hawaii. Okay, that's good.

00:32:53
Speaker 5: At some point in my life, I'm going.

00:32:54
Speaker 2: By the way. I was correct in my head. I said he's going to say somewhere in the US or Mexico, and Hawaii is in the US or Mexican.

00:33:01
Speaker 5: I've been compared to you into Rome, I've been to London.

00:33:04
Speaker 2: We travel, and I don't think you liked it, right, you know I loved it. But I mean, is there not a part of you that would see outside of this and go I'd like to go to and you can pick the continent. Hawaii on this continent as a matter of fact, in this country.

00:33:19
Speaker 5: One of the most beautiful places in the world. I'm going.

00:33:22
Speaker 2: But there are other beautiful places.

00:33:23
Speaker 5: Yeah, I've seen them, so I'm going everywhere elsewhere, all of them.

00:33:27
Speaker 4: You know, Kentucky gets in the Malai Classic. I mean, we can make that happen.

00:33:30
Speaker 2: I mean, that's very do them.

00:33:34
Speaker 5: I hope it is. So if Pope get us in the male invitation, so we can all go take care.

00:33:38
Speaker 2: I mean, it doesn't have to be the malay invitation.

00:33:41
Speaker 5: That's well, I'm going at some point in my life, I'm gonna go to Hawaii.

00:33:44
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, Well what's second? Is there anything outside of the US.

00:33:47
Speaker 5: Or Mexico, Australia would probably be my second?

00:33:49
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, now that's away. You two can go to get hold hands and saying Max, why is why do you have to hold hands? Stop? Stop over paying for sun classes if you're tired of find expensive sunglasses only to lose or break them, or worse you'll or never wear them because they get dirty. Shady rais an independent American old company start right here in Kentucky. Premium polarized shades for every activity running, fishing, biking, hiking, you name it. From their tangle free aviators to more, go to Shadyrays dot com and the best lost and broken replacements of Kentucky company at Shady Rays. We'll take a break right back, ks R. So I want you to get to go since you like it so much.

00:34:30
Speaker 5: I just always been in a kind of a dream as a kid to go to Hawaii. I want to see you know all the touristy stuff there, and so yes, Mark Pulp, get us back in the Malley invitation.

00:34:39
Speaker 6: Lexton Catholic plays there next week. They're leaving Sunday. You should try to get get a radioxon Catholic plays there. A friend just textaus they're heading there.

00:34:48
Speaker 2: Is thereic Kentucky? Is therek Kentucky Indiana line? Yet for tomorrow?

00:34:53
Speaker 4: I haven't seen it. We looked this morning though, couldn't find it.

00:34:55
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't see one either, So what do you got? I would say Kentucky by three or four five, something like that. That's just my guess. That's probably what it would be called three and a half. Yeah, that would be. That's just a guess. I have no idea, but we're covering that.

00:35:10
Speaker 5: They just have to win. I mean that is just a must win for Pulping his program after the article came out this week. I mean, they need to win.

00:35:17
Speaker 2: All right. I want to play something right here. And I think it's important when you hear any of these things to just think about where they come from, et cetera. So and like what may be behind them. So the radio station in Louisville ESPN Louisville. They had on Cameron Drummond. He is the college basketball reporter. He's one of the two for the Harold Leader, and he was asked about the JMI situation and the story that KSR did and just in the guys of fairness, I want to play his comment and then respond to it. So he was asked, basically, what do you think of all that's come out this week? And here's what he had to say.

00:35:56
Speaker 9: Why is Tyrone Stokes not signed to be a Wildcat today? Why is Christian Collins not signed to be a Wildcat today? I would certainly caution people with a lot of the reporting that's been out there from taking all of that one hundred percent at face value, especially when there's anonymous sources involved, and especially when you don't necessarily know whose interests are being served with whatever kind of reporting article quotes are out there. You know, again, a lot of times when you're quoting agents and collective type people, I think it's important to understand which side of the coiner of these people on would they stand to benefit would they stand to not benefit from something like the JMI deal. I will say that I think there's a whole lot of misinformation and some of the common narratives that are certainly easy to push at a time when Kentucky doesn't have a twenty twenty six basketball recruit signed and the current team with a twenty two million dollar pay roll is severely underperforming to begin the season.

00:36:54
Speaker 2: So I wanted to play that because it's gotten a little bit of traction online and it's basically people saying, look, here's the Herald reporter saying, you know, what's the narrative KSR is trying to push. I'll just I want to say this respectfully because I'm sure this kid is a nice kid. I do not know him, but I was very frustrated by that comment. First of all, you know this, this doesn't mean what he said isn't valid. But Cameron Drummond was a was a he worked for an Indiana fan side right, he's an Indiana fan, which is totally fine. But I do think is you know that's part of it. You can say I went to Duke Law you're an Indiana guy. He was on Inside the Hall, the Big Indiana podcast, So I think that's worth noting. Secondly, I think it's very hypocritical for any journalists to criticize using anonymous sources and to say where look where the reporting's coming from. The Harald literally broke the story that put Kentucky on probation through anonymous sources. Right. The idea that one journalist would look at another and say, you gotta be careful about anonymous sources, Come on, dude, give me a break. But secondly, what I would say to someone that writes at The Harald that says you gotta be careful? This is one side of a narrative? Where has your reporting been on this? This has been going on for six months? Y'all are the actual journalist? Right? Like where a fan site, the hair leader's job is supposed to be to find out questions like this, where have you been when you say there's misinformation? Here's my question for you, hair Leader? What is the true information? Cause y'all haven't published it. Have you seen anything that says what the deal is with Jami? I'm not, but I also can't afford their old leader these days. Yeah, so well I have it and y'all haven't written it. So I think it is the blatant hypocrisy for a kid to get on there. And I don't mean the kid disparage him. He may be in his late twenties, I'm not sure. But for a reporter to get on there and say there's a lot of misinformation out there, then where is your article explaining what the actual deal is there is? You are the newspaper, You are literally in charge of this stuff. You can't go on the radio not say what we're wrong about cast aspersions and you have given nothing. So that really frustrated me by that guy. I went on there. I was gonna like just send him a m and go, hey, man, where did that come from? And I realized he wasn't even following me on Twitter, which by the way, he doesn't have to follow me, but I did find that odd. I was following him like you cover Kentucky sports and you don't follow the people who wrote this story. That's odd, But you are an Indiana fan. And then I went back and remembered when he was an Indiana fan, he used to write disparage and stuff about us. Okay, now I think I have more of an understanding where this is coming from. Indiana fan who didn't like KSR writes this article or goes on and says this That frustrates me a little bit. But the bigger picture is I too would like to know the specifics of the JMI UK deal, but it's up to the Harold Leader that your job to find it. And the fact that information isn't out there, I blame UK for not disclosing it, but I also ryan blame the Harold Leader for not getting it out. That's what you're supposed to do.

00:40:11
Speaker 5: I'm hearing that for the first time, and the frustrating part of me was he was, you know, saying the misinformation, but then he didn't.

00:40:16
Speaker 2: He didn't have any information.

00:40:17
Speaker 5: Have any information to back it up.

00:40:18
Speaker 2: He was saying, the only information we have is what Jack and Jacob did. So you know, if they're wrong, which I don't think they are, well, let me put it like this. I know this is what one side of the of who the agents is, what the agents and players are saying. If UK wants to refute that, let him refute it. But we still we are forty eight hours after that article's come out and his UK said anything, No crickets, Jack and Jacob, No, I haven't heard anything. So that says to me they probably don't have anything to say, because if they did, they would.

00:40:53
Speaker 6: Have already said, and people questioning the intent and the timing of Jack and Jacob. This started months ago of okay, let's see what's going wrong, and then it turned into what it is now. But they didn't set out with let me just have this negative article. They genuinely were at these events wondering why Kentucky doesn't have a recruit and an ony of theous conversations it led him to that finished product that came out. And they didn't just come up with a big plan. Oh they're oh and four, let's come out with some big story. This has been brewing since the summer.

00:41:20
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you know it is it is the critic can stand on the sideline. And and what bothered me is this is a journalist doing it. It used to be that sites like KSR, we would say to the Herald, oh you can't believe in anonymous sources. But it's funny to watch howt's flipped, Like now we're doing the journalism and you're being the one going he didn't even filler season anonymous, like do something, do something besides tell me there's a new restaurant opening up in Butt, Montana, which is what's on their front page.

00:41:52
Speaker 5: There used to be a time where Jerry Tite Butte Jerry Titton and John Clay would have been all over this story weeks.

00:42:00
Speaker 2: You know. I'm like, they do do that. They'll be like local institution closes and you open it up and it's like in Boise. Yeah, come on, all right, we'll take a break, come back UK volleyball to the elite A. We'll talk about next our Kyazar