Chart Topping Musician Received NO CREDIT for One of the Most Iconic Recordings in Movie History!

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Once upon a time, before he was a #1 recording artist, this struggling artist went to record in the studio, and if you grew up in the 80s or 90s, you will recognize his recording. But, most people have no idea who was responsible, because he received no credit for his work. Join us for this special edition of the Surely You Can't Be Serious Podcast!
2024-07-02 14 min Transcript

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<v Speaker 1>Hello everybody, and welcome back for a very special Independence
<v Speaker 1>Day celebration. Shirly Podcast episode Jason, do you know the
<v Speaker 1>date that the Declaration of Independence was ratified?
<v Speaker 2>How about July fourth, seventeen seventy six.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, wrong answer. I'm sorry, that isn't incorrect. No, there
<v Speaker 1>was a big fight leading up to the declaration of independence.
<v Speaker 1>I mean we had thirteen colonies, some were for voting
<v Speaker 1>for independence, somewhere against it. There was a big fight.
<v Speaker 1>But it was on July second, today, the day of
<v Speaker 1>this podcast, July second, that it was actually some colonies
<v Speaker 1>to switch their position. South Carolina was like, nope, we're
<v Speaker 1>gonna vote for independence, and so on July second, seventeen
<v Speaker 1>seventy six, that was the day that independence was adopted
<v Speaker 1>by twelve affirmative votes and one abstention. They formally said
<v Speaker 1>we are going to sever our political ties with Great Britain.
<v Speaker 1>As a matter of fact, John Adams wrote to his
<v Speaker 1>wife the following day and predicted that July second would
<v Speaker 1>become a great American holiday. It is only because the
<v Speaker 1>people didn't know until it was formally adopted two days
<v Speaker 1>later on July fourth, that that became what we now
<v Speaker 1>celebrate as our Independence Day, but it was actually adopted
<v Speaker 1>two days before today today in celebrate July.
<v Speaker 2>Happy July second.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, happy July second. You got your fireworks ready to go?
<v Speaker 2>I'm ready to blow up some crap.
<v Speaker 1>As the as the Bridge call it the Rebellion Day.
<v Speaker 1>I don't so. I am here today not to talk
<v Speaker 1>to you about the independence of the United States, but
<v Speaker 1>to just bring you, guys a special episode. This is
<v Speaker 1>a special edition episode. We have a great Patreon family.
<v Speaker 1>If you guys are interested in becoming a part of
<v Speaker 1>our Patreon family, all you have to do is go
<v Speaker 1>to patreon dot com slash Shirley Podcast. For as little
<v Speaker 1>as five bucks a month, you get access to all
<v Speaker 1>of our special Patreon episodes where we cover one hit
<v Speaker 1>wonders and other kind of novelty songs. You even managed
<v Speaker 1>to sneak Mariah Carrey in there on me, which is
<v Speaker 1>none too happy about, but it's still a great episode.
<v Speaker 1>It is.
<v Speaker 3>And every every song has a story. Every song has
<v Speaker 3>a story that's right, and we like telling those stories.
<v Speaker 3>That's what I'm here to do today is tell a story.
<v Speaker 3>What we've started doing on some of these Patreon episodes
<v Speaker 3>is we you started this, You're like, Okay, d I've
<v Speaker 3>got a song that I'm going to tell you about
<v Speaker 3>and you have to try to guess what it is.
<v Speaker 3>And it's kind of the way we do our top fives,
<v Speaker 3>you know, we lead it in. And that's what I'm
<v Speaker 3>gonna do with today's episode. I'm going to talk to
<v Speaker 3>you about an American musician who is a chart topping
<v Speaker 3>musician and is responsible for one of the most iconic
<v Speaker 3>records in all of movie history, and he got no
<v Speaker 3>credit for it. As a matter of fact, I would
<v Speaker 3>venture to say that ninety nine percent of the people
<v Speaker 3>who are familiar with this recording are not familiar with
<v Speaker 3>who recorded it. And it is a great story. And
<v Speaker 3>it turns out it's a guy from Oklahoma right here
<v Speaker 3>where we are.
<v Speaker 1>All right, you bekaya? It was nineteen fifty one. Shelby
<v Speaker 1>stood anxiously at the Warner Brothers recording studio, not sure
<v Speaker 1>about what was going to happen next. He had only
<v Speaker 1>recently moved to California in hopes of making it big,
<v Speaker 1>and so far he hadn't had a whole lot of success.
<v Speaker 1>He was far from home on his second marriage and
<v Speaker 1>had a young boy. He had grown to a door
<v Speaker 1>depending on him. But little did he know the profound
<v Speaker 1>impact that this upcoming recording session would have. One hundred
<v Speaker 1>years ago, the population of Eric, Oklahoma was nine hundred
<v Speaker 1>and seventy one, which is about thirty eight more than
<v Speaker 1>its population is today, and in April of nineteen twenty one,
<v Speaker 1>that population increased by one when Bill and Aura welcomed
<v Speaker 1>their third son and the World. Shelby would go on
<v Speaker 1>to learn horse riding and fiddle playing from Bill and
<v Speaker 1>so from a young age he would ride in rodeos,
<v Speaker 1>and at fifteen he formed a band called the plain
<v Speaker 1>View Melody Boys, who would periodically play on Station KASA
<v Speaker 1>in Elk City, Oklahoma. When Shelby was only nineteen, he
<v Speaker 1>married his first wife, Melva Miller, herself only seventeen at
<v Speaker 1>the time. Shelby became close with Melva's young cousin, Roger,
<v Speaker 1>taught him how to play the guitar and bought his
<v Speaker 1>first fiddle. Roger Miller would grow up to become a
<v Speaker 1>successful country musician himself. You probably know his song King
<v Speaker 1>of the Road Pause, which was a number one Hot
<v Speaker 1>Country single and reached number four on the Hot one hundred.
<v Speaker 1>But this seed that shall be planted would not be
<v Speaker 1>the biggest mark he would make on the world of entertainment.
<v Speaker 1>Though he tried to enlist for World War Two, his
<v Speaker 1>rodeo injuries kept him out of the military, so instead
<v Speaker 1>he worked as a welder for oil drillers. Then in
<v Speaker 1>nineteen forty six, at the encouragement of Ernest tub he
<v Speaker 1>decided to leave the oil field, leave Oklahoma and pursue
<v Speaker 1>his love of music. He recorded his first single, moved
<v Speaker 1>to Fort Worth, Texas, and for three years he toured
<v Speaker 1>the South, but was ultimately unable to hit it big.
<v Speaker 1>So in nineteen fifty he brought his second wife, Edna
<v Speaker 1>and her young son Gary to Hollywood in hopes of
<v Speaker 1>establishing himself as an actor or a singer. But after
<v Speaker 1>a year he had only had a handful of parts,
<v Speaker 1>mostly uncredited, and that included the movie he was about
<v Speaker 1>to record for, uncredited for the part he played in
<v Speaker 1>the movie, and uncredited for his part in the audio
<v Speaker 1>track that he was about to record, Yes, uncredited for
<v Speaker 1>the part that would become one of the most iconic
<v Speaker 1>recordings in history. Now. As it turned out, Shelby would
<v Speaker 1>ultimately be a success as a singer and as an actor.
<v Speaker 1>Just a year later, in nineteen fifty two, he would
<v Speaker 1>land his first big role in the movie High Noon
<v Speaker 1>as Ben Miller, one of the gang who would face
<v Speaker 1>off against Gary Cooper. Year after that, two songs that
<v Speaker 1>he had written would become hits for Teresa Brewer and
<v Speaker 1>Hank Snow. Then, in nineteen fifty eight, he had two
<v Speaker 1>career making events. First, he was cast as Peter Nolan
<v Speaker 1>in the series Rawhide, a role he would play for
<v Speaker 1>the next eight years. Second was that he had recorded
<v Speaker 1>a song that would be his biggest chart topper, going
<v Speaker 1>gold in just three weeks and hitting number one on
<v Speaker 1>the Hot one hundred. The song it was a one eyed,
<v Speaker 1>one horn flying tirple people lead one Horn. It has
<v Speaker 1>sold well over one hundred million copies to date, but
<v Speaker 1>I am saying today that his uncredited contribution to one
<v Speaker 1>of his earliest movies surpasses even this in its impact
<v Speaker 1>on the entertainment world. His acting career didn't stop with
<v Speaker 1>Rawhide either. He was in more than sixty movies and
<v Speaker 1>television roles, including The War Wagon with John Wayne, The
<v Speaker 1>Outlaw Josie Wales with Clint Eastwood, Silverado with Kevin Klein,
<v Speaker 1>Kevin Costner and Danny Glover and Hoosiers, where he was
<v Speaker 1>literally sitting next to Gene Hackman on the bench helping
<v Speaker 1>coach the team. He was also one of the original
<v Speaker 1>cast members of Heehaw, which he wrote the theme for.
<v Speaker 1>He also had quite a bit of success as a
<v Speaker 1>recording artist as well. He had several more gold records.
<v Speaker 1>He won a CMA in nineteen sixty eight Songwriter of
<v Speaker 1>the Year in nineteen ninety two. He also won the
<v Speaker 1>Western Heritage Award for nine years in a row for
<v Speaker 1>his television work. But I maintain it was his nineteen
<v Speaker 1>fifty one recording that will be his most lasting legacy,
<v Speaker 1>and most people don't even know he was the main responsible.
<v Speaker 1>So what was Shelby Woolley who went by SHEB about
<v Speaker 1>to record on that faithful day? Well, he was just
<v Speaker 1>one of a handful of actors they had called back
<v Speaker 1>that day to do some recording they needed to finish
<v Speaker 1>up the movie Distant Drums. Sheb did six different takes
<v Speaker 1>and the last three ended up in the movie. Then
<v Speaker 1>all six takes went into the Warner Brothers vault, only
<v Speaker 1>to be used again in nineteen fifty two and in
<v Speaker 1>nineteen fifty three, three times in nineteen fifty four, including
<v Speaker 1>the Judy Garland version of A Star Is Born twice
<v Speaker 1>in fifty five, and again and again over and over
<v Speaker 1>for the next twenty years. But nobody noticed. Nobody except
<v Speaker 1>a young film production grad student at USC named Ben.
<v Speaker 1>In his studies, Ben had known noticed Seb's work and
<v Speaker 1>was impressed, so impressed that he and his buddy Richard
<v Speaker 1>would record it from A Star As Born just to
<v Speaker 1>put it in their nineteen seventy four student film, The
<v Speaker 1>Scarlet Blade. Ben would graduate the next year, and then
<v Speaker 1>two years after that he would get his first credited
<v Speaker 1>job as a sound designer. This job allowed him to
<v Speaker 1>do research in several sound libraries, including the one at
<v Speaker 1>Warner Brothers, where he was able to find Seb's original recordings,
<v Speaker 1>and it was this discovery that led to its proliferation
<v Speaker 1>in the nineteen eighties, nineties and on into the twenty
<v Speaker 1>first century. His friend Richard used it in his movies
<v Speaker 1>as well, including Poltergeist, Batman, Returns, Planet of the Apes,
<v Speaker 1>and Madagascar. Other sound editors became aware of Schev's recordings
<v Speaker 1>and used it in their films as well. Disney films
<v Speaker 1>Spielberg films. Joe Dante has used it in at least
<v Speaker 1>five of his films. Peter Jackson was so impressed that
<v Speaker 1>he deliberately cranked the volume when Sheb's voice was used
<v Speaker 1>in Lord of the Rings. And when Quentin Tarantino learned
<v Speaker 1>the significance of this recording while it was being put
<v Speaker 1>into Reservoir Dogs, he called a break and had his
<v Speaker 1>sound crew come and listen to its first appearance way
<v Speaker 1>back in Distant Drums. In fact, since Ben discovered Sheb's
<v Speaker 1>recordings back in nineteen seventy seven while finding sounds for
<v Speaker 1>a new movie called Star Wars, Sheb's voice has been
<v Speaker 1>used in over one hundred and thirty films and television episodes,
<v Speaker 1>and Ben Burt found it in a canister marked quote
<v Speaker 1>man getting bit by an alligator and he screams because
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't Shebb's singing voice, but his screaming voice that
<v Speaker 1>he recorded on that faithful day back in nineteen fifty one.
<v Speaker 1>And though Sheb played Private jessup in Distant Drums, it
<v Speaker 1>was a memorable moment in a film two years later
<v Speaker 1>called The Charge at Feather River, where Ben Bert first
<v Speaker 1>heard Sheb's scream as another young private is shot in
<v Speaker 1>the leg a young private named Willhelm, which is why,
<v Speaker 1>if you haven't guessed it already, he named it the
<v Speaker 1>Wilhelm Scream, and that is the story as best I
<v Speaker 1>can tell.
<v Speaker 2>Nice, that's awesome.
<v Speaker 1>That's awesome.
<v Speaker 2>I know it from Star Wars for sure, Return of
<v Speaker 2>the Jedi for sure, Indiana Jones, Indiana Raiders, a little
<v Speaker 2>lost star, without a doubt.
<v Speaker 1>It's iconic.
<v Speaker 2>That's good man, you did some research on that.
<v Speaker 1>That's awesome. Yeah, it was just crazy when you find
<v Speaker 1>out that the guy responsible for the one eyed, one horn,
<v Speaker 1>flying purple people eater and the themed Hehaw is the
<v Speaker 1>guy who did the Wilhelm screen.
<v Speaker 2>That's incredible. It's incredible. I'm gonna have to go back
<v Speaker 2>and watch Hoosias just to.
<v Speaker 1>Figure this guy out.
<v Speaker 2>So, okay, guys, that's gonna be it for our special episode.
<v Speaker 2>But we hope you'll have a great Fourth of July
<v Speaker 2>with your family, a safe and fun fourth of July
<v Speaker 2>celebrating independence. But join us back here next week. D
<v Speaker 2>We're gonna have the top five songs of nineteen seventy nine.
<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, we seventy eight was fantastic. I can't
<v Speaker 1>wait to see what seventy nine brings us.
<v Speaker 2>A lot of great pop songs, a lot of great
<v Speaker 2>rock from that era, got some country, got some disco.
<v Speaker 2>It's gonna be fun. Come on back for that. We'll
<v Speaker 2>see you back here next week. We ought to do
<v Speaker 2>our impressions, oh man,

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