WrestleMagic Team Interviews The Jumping Bomb Angels Tag Team Member Noriyo Tateno

<v Speaker 1>All right, everybody.
<v Speaker 2>Tonight's episode of Wrestling Magic, we are having another interview,
<v Speaker 2>this time with the other half of the famous Jumping
<v Speaker 2>Bomb Angels tag team. Tonight we have Missio Tetano. Ma'am,
<v Speaker 2>how is your day?
<v Speaker 1>How are you doing right now?
<v Speaker 2>And same with you, Miss Keno, the interpreter that has
<v Speaker 2>helped us out last time and this time, how are
<v Speaker 2>you both doing?
<v Speaker 3>Thank you for having us, huys, thank you for having us.
<v Speaker 1>Yes, oh, it's my pleasure.
<v Speaker 2>I'm very happy to have the both of you, and
<v Speaker 2>I'm really excited for this show. So what I have heard,
<v Speaker 2>Miss Nodio you have started running a bar after your
<v Speaker 2>retirement house business out there in Tokyo.
<v Speaker 4>BYI bye business this show, No no, mam mama.
<v Speaker 3>But it's very fun. She's having fun after her career
<v Speaker 3>running a bar.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, that's pretty cool. I'm glad that you found something
<v Speaker 2>else that you can be passionate about after retiring from
<v Speaker 2>your main career.
<v Speaker 1>So what made you want to go that route? Anyways?
<v Speaker 4>I was like, she likes drinking, that's why she started
<v Speaker 4>running a bar. She thought that's her fit career for
<v Speaker 4>the next move.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, that's cool.
<v Speaker 2>Glad that you found something else that you really felt
<v Speaker 2>passionate about. So let's get right into it. So, before
<v Speaker 2>you guys were wrestlers, you were going to be looking
<v Speaker 2>more at a music career. So how exactly did you
<v Speaker 2>guys get involved with the music business and releasing a
<v Speaker 2>couple of those albums that we saw from last time?
<v Speaker 3>This is amount of money me? Okay? Actually she started
<v Speaker 3>wrestling first and then the music career came. And okay,
<v Speaker 3>so her company, a j W asked, well, told her
<v Speaker 3>to sing? We actually was the company, uh told them
<v Speaker 3>to start singing? So they just start singing. It was
<v Speaker 3>the company planned to do so that's why.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So a j W.
<v Speaker 2>They like to have a lot of their talent also
<v Speaker 2>do musical acts. Is that what I'm understanding from this
<v Speaker 2>because it seems like it from a I want to say,
<v Speaker 2>the Crush Cows did it, and then before then Beauty
<v Speaker 2>Pair also did that. Was that just normal for Joshi
<v Speaker 2>wrestling to also include a lot of music.
<v Speaker 3>Yes, at that time, around eighties nineties, that that was
<v Speaker 3>what they were selling with the music. Just rest with
<v Speaker 3>the music.
<v Speaker 1>Is okay? That's pretty cool.
<v Speaker 2>You guys were trying to be multi talented at that point,
<v Speaker 2>the company was really finding different ways to uh try
<v Speaker 2>to get more money out of you guys, well out
<v Speaker 2>of the crowd, just trying to find different ways to
<v Speaker 2>entertain I guess we could.
<v Speaker 5>Say right.
<v Speaker 3>Anymore, so you go there. Actually, the company really wanted
<v Speaker 3>to do, like you know, multi talented. They they liked
<v Speaker 3>doing different things. So that's what they started. Every pair
<v Speaker 3>to start singing, get on certain TV shows in Japan,
<v Speaker 3>and so they liked the whole entertainment and the street,
<v Speaker 3>not just wrestling.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, that's pretty cool.
<v Speaker 2>So one other thing that I wanted to ask about,
<v Speaker 2>so your friendship with Itsuki, were you guys always getting
<v Speaker 2>along pretty well or was it a little bit rocky
<v Speaker 2>in the beginning.
<v Speaker 1>How exactly did that whole thing go.
<v Speaker 3>It's some tool that's how you discussion.
<v Speaker 5>Tomorrow.
<v Speaker 6>Has you met the American Kara?
<v Speaker 3>At first, they did not even like each other because
<v Speaker 3>they felt like they were rivals. They were in the
<v Speaker 3>same age they debut, they joined at the same year,
<v Speaker 3>so at first didn't even talk to each I speak
<v Speaker 3>to each other, but really he changed from going to
<v Speaker 3>the United States, they started talking about different things. Went
<v Speaker 3>to the United States together and they decided we should
<v Speaker 3>be tighter, we should be good friends, we should start
<v Speaker 3>talking more, and that's how they became really close. It
<v Speaker 3>was really going to the United States together.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, that makes sense.
<v Speaker 2>So around what year do you remember going to.
<v Speaker 1>The United States?
<v Speaker 2>Was that in nineteen eighty eight when you guys went
<v Speaker 2>to WWF or was there a time earlier when you
<v Speaker 2>guys went to America American?
<v Speaker 3>That's judging. So she was twenty one years old in
<v Speaker 3>She's sixty years old this year, so that is about
<v Speaker 3>she Well, she joined a j W and nineteen eighty one,
<v Speaker 3>so she said, it's gonna be thirty nine years ago.
<v Speaker 3>That's when she went to name. That's when she went
<v Speaker 3>to United States, thirty nine years ago.
<v Speaker 1>Okay.
<v Speaker 3>See it's like so old, such a history. She can't
<v Speaker 3>really remember the exact dates in the year, but she
<v Speaker 3>remember how old she was when she joined, when she
<v Speaker 3>went to the United States.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, that's fair.
<v Speaker 2>So I actually did some research last night and I
<v Speaker 2>was watching a lot of your old matches, and I
<v Speaker 2>have to say that both of you were very technical
<v Speaker 2>with your wrestling and very talented. Got to see some
<v Speaker 2>matches with you against Bullmakano and seeing you guys versus
<v Speaker 2>the Crushcals, And I have to say the crowd for
<v Speaker 2>AJW was electric. Was it always like that? Or did
<v Speaker 2>you sometimes come out and feel like the crowd was
<v Speaker 2>dead at times?
<v Speaker 3>Told you are so debut, Yes, since she did the
<v Speaker 3>first debut match, it's been the crowd been like like
<v Speaker 3>like that since she debuted. It was always like that
<v Speaker 3>back in the days.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So I also did want to ask you about
<v Speaker 2>a couple of specifics here. So when you were up
<v Speaker 2>against the Crushcals, how did it make you feel just
<v Speaker 2>knowing about their history seeing as they were as big
<v Speaker 2>as hal Cogan in Japan as where hal Cogan was
<v Speaker 2>in America? So how did it feel knowing that you
<v Speaker 2>were going up against people of such very status at
<v Speaker 2>that point and knowing that you were going up against
<v Speaker 2>somebody that popular, How did it make you feel too,
<v Speaker 2>especially to beat them in their rings.
<v Speaker 3>Swings? Yes, so it was great. The Crush Girls has
<v Speaker 3>so much fans, so that made her feel like I
<v Speaker 3>cannot lose to this. I I have to do my best,
<v Speaker 3>and it gave her more energy and more power to
<v Speaker 3>do better against such a great tag team like Crush Girls.
<v Speaker 1>I see.
<v Speaker 2>So something that I noticed as well during that match
<v Speaker 2>was the crowd did not stop chanting the entire match
<v Speaker 2>for whoever from the Crush Cows was in the ring.
<v Speaker 2>Was that a normal occurrence because that is something that
<v Speaker 2>usually happens in Western audiences, and it's just interesting to
<v Speaker 2>see a difference in the crowd like that.
<v Speaker 3>Second saying ago, I do no model.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so yes, Crush Gails was phenomenal, but it was
<v Speaker 3>like eighty percent was all Crush Girls fans and twenty
<v Speaker 3>percent was like anti Crush Gails fans. So they had
<v Speaker 3>their cheers and that's what they gave him energy to
<v Speaker 3>do their best and there what they had to do.
<v Speaker 3>But the crowd was like that all the time with
<v Speaker 3>the Crush Gals.
<v Speaker 1>Interesting.
<v Speaker 2>So my next question about them, so, how did you
<v Speaker 2>like them and get along with them? Did you guys
<v Speaker 2>see eye to eye and really connect backstage or did
<v Speaker 2>you guys have any kind of issues? Well not like
<v Speaker 2>huge issues, but you know, did you guys get along at.
<v Speaker 7>Least it's in the same do you.
<v Speaker 3>Okay? Yes, Oh, they were, Yes, they were friendly from
<v Speaker 3>the beginning because they were one year earlier they joined
<v Speaker 3>one year earlier, so they were called sempi that's like
<v Speaker 3>a not elder. But they have to respect the people
<v Speaker 3>who came in earlier than them, so that was that's
<v Speaker 3>what they have to do. So and they used to
<v Speaker 3>live in the same dorm, so they did lift together
<v Speaker 3>and they used to take all the take the build
<v Speaker 3>the ring, clean in the ring up that they had
<v Speaker 3>to do different chores. I guess during the even they
<v Speaker 3>were wrestlers, so they had some connections, so they were
<v Speaker 3>they didn't have any bad relationship or anything. They were
<v Speaker 3>they were friendly to each other even backstage.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, that's cool.
<v Speaker 2>I'm really glad that you were able to get along
<v Speaker 2>with those that were seeming to be the most popular
<v Speaker 2>at the time. One thing that I do also want
<v Speaker 2>to ask about that do you feel like you guys
<v Speaker 2>were even with or potentially more popular from when you
<v Speaker 2>guys went to WWF or do you feel like maybe
<v Speaker 2>you guys were about the same or how did you
<v Speaker 2>guys feel about how you guys compared to the crush
<v Speaker 2>Cows as the Jumping Bomb Angels.
<v Speaker 3>Yes, women, good Night Night, and you were they were
<v Speaker 3>never jealous. They ah, they always feel like they want
<v Speaker 3>to do better than Crushed gals, they felt like they
<v Speaker 3>want to of course sell more, be more famous, more
<v Speaker 3>popular than Crushed Girls. Since they came back from w
<v Speaker 3>w F, they felt as though as a wrestling technique,
<v Speaker 3>they felt as though they were equal. Now that that's
<v Speaker 3>how they felt they have more more popularity. Popularity wise,
<v Speaker 3>crush girls dominated even they came back from w w F,
<v Speaker 3>Crush Girls dominated till the end. Okay, technique, they felt
<v Speaker 3>like they they're up there with them, even the weight,
<v Speaker 3>even their weight, their pounds. They feel like they got
<v Speaker 3>bigger and came back.
<v Speaker 1>All right.
<v Speaker 2>So one other thing that I wanted to ask about
<v Speaker 2>with that, so, how well did you get along with
<v Speaker 2>Bolano backstage? Because uh, not that I think that there's
<v Speaker 2>anything going on with you guys negatively, but seeing how
<v Speaker 2>she was in the ring, she seemed so brutal.
<v Speaker 1>And so intense.
<v Speaker 2>But I imagine that you guys probably got along pretty well.
<v Speaker 2>Is that how things went with you and Bolano?
<v Speaker 3>Ort intioned, Okay, So since was a heel, they were
<v Speaker 3>totally separated. Even backstage, even the bus that they have
<v Speaker 3>to go to the next area, next region, anything, they
<v Speaker 3>were all separated. So they did not really interact with
<v Speaker 3>each other other than the ring.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So in all Japan, they really held to the
<v Speaker 2>FABE rules at that point, and they made sure that
<v Speaker 2>you guys were separate at all times.
<v Speaker 1>Is that what I'm hearing?
<v Speaker 3>This isn't would say here yes with hell Yes, they
<v Speaker 3>were totally separated, and even the matches that day is uh,
<v Speaker 3>they knew who was there who they have to have
<v Speaker 3>a match that day. A g W may shure they
<v Speaker 3>are separated all day from from before. As soon as
<v Speaker 3>they have they know who they matching against, they will
<v Speaker 3>separate both. They will separate everybody so they won't even
<v Speaker 3>talk to each other backstage or anything like that. They
<v Speaker 3>may show they're or separate so they could feel like
<v Speaker 3>they have to go out against each other in the ring.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So they really did hold those KFE rules and
<v Speaker 2>laws at the time.
<v Speaker 1>That is pretty cool.
<v Speaker 2>So after Bull Nikano, I didn't want to also ask
<v Speaker 2>about dump Matsumoto. But seeing as you guys were always separated,
<v Speaker 2>I imagine you probably didn't have much of a relationship
<v Speaker 2>with her either, So I.
<v Speaker 3>See something, buddy. When she was new, she was in heel,
<v Speaker 3>so she came in with the same year as crush guelds.
<v Speaker 3>So they were all kind of together, they did. They
<v Speaker 3>weren't really separated because she was not in the heel
<v Speaker 3>or anything like that, So they were kind of friendly
<v Speaker 3>to each other, but once she turned heel position, they
<v Speaker 3>were really separated.
<v Speaker 5>M I see.
<v Speaker 2>So I did also want to ask you about so
<v Speaker 2>there was something that I had read online that you
<v Speaker 2>had actually won a title from Bolna Kano and looking
<v Speaker 2>back at the fact that Bakano is now a w
<v Speaker 2>Hall of Famer, does it feel like your career is
<v Speaker 2>a little bit elevated seeing that if you won that
<v Speaker 2>title from her, or did that just not happen? Is
<v Speaker 2>that misinformation?
<v Speaker 1>By chance? You?
<v Speaker 3>Okay? So she or two was two years older than Kano,
<v Speaker 3>came in two years after her. So yes, in the beginning,
<v Speaker 3>she was like leading, more leading type and was a
<v Speaker 3>little less popular, little less of her wrestling technique was
<v Speaker 3>a little lesser. She felt like she's a little bit
<v Speaker 3>lesser technique than her. But the body, her body became
<v Speaker 3>bigger and her technique got better. So yes, they did
<v Speaker 3>come up and got better than her. So w W
<v Speaker 3>Hall of Fame, what did you ask about w.
<v Speaker 2>W SO with being inducted into the w W Hall
<v Speaker 2>of Fame recently. Do you feel that having beaten Bonnakano
<v Speaker 2>for a title, does that elevate your career as well?
<v Speaker 1>Or do you feel like it's still as it was.
<v Speaker 2>Do you feel like do you feel like you have
<v Speaker 2>a higher popularity than what you would have had before,
<v Speaker 2>or do you feel like it's all just the same.
<v Speaker 3>She feels the same, she has She she does not
<v Speaker 3>feel any elevation or anything like that. She just feel
<v Speaker 3>the same.
<v Speaker 1>So I see, Uh.
<v Speaker 2>Personally, I believe that the Jumping momb Angels should be
<v Speaker 2>inducted into the Hall of Fame at some point, and
<v Speaker 2>I believe within the next few years it may happen.
<v Speaker 1>So uh.
<v Speaker 2>With that, I wanted to ask your opinion, as Itsuki
<v Speaker 2>had her own opinion on this, who would you want
<v Speaker 2>to induct you guys into the Hall of Fame if
<v Speaker 2>that were to happen.
<v Speaker 3>W W no jumping boom engines again, So doesn't need
<v Speaker 3>she they are really the really with British Bulldog and
<v Speaker 3>Smith Smith Smith and kids.
<v Speaker 1>But David boy Smith and yes, but they.
<v Speaker 3>Are gone, Yeah, but they she really wished they were
<v Speaker 3>still alive so they could induct them into the Hall
<v Speaker 3>of Fame. But let me ask whose who's who's alive?
<v Speaker 8>They are yes, so.
<v Speaker 3>It's m yeah, I think also, uh, I think it's yes.
<v Speaker 1>And Judy Martin would have been her partner.
<v Speaker 3>Right, so she also feels that way.
<v Speaker 1>So let's.
<v Speaker 3>Because since they are they were there, who were who
<v Speaker 3>they went against? Because of them, they feel like they
<v Speaker 3>were where she where they are at right now with
<v Speaker 3>WWF career because they were the one who they had
<v Speaker 3>to go against. They elevated them. Also with the career
<v Speaker 3>of w w.
<v Speaker 2>F, I see they did have a lot of matches together,
<v Speaker 2>so I can understand that. So I do have a
<v Speaker 2>follow up with that, because Jimmy Hart being their manager
<v Speaker 2>for that tag team, the Glamour Girls, would you want
<v Speaker 2>him also on stage with them to induct you or
<v Speaker 2>maybe did you not get along with him or you
<v Speaker 2>know what, would you be okay with him also being
<v Speaker 2>with them inducting.
<v Speaker 3>You Jimmy manager Jimmy got du Yeah the litany, then yeah,
<v Speaker 3>she has no problem with Jimmy Hart, so of course
<v Speaker 3>she would love for him to be there.
<v Speaker 2>Also, Okay, I did want to ask that because so
<v Speaker 2>watching your guys' matches with the Glamour Girls. It seems
<v Speaker 2>like there was a lot of antics that went on
<v Speaker 2>as there should be an attag team match with a manager.
<v Speaker 2>It seemed like I had seen at one point one
<v Speaker 2>of you had kicked him off the apron, another one
<v Speaker 2>had chased him around the ring at one point, then
<v Speaker 2>leading to the end of a match where I believe
<v Speaker 2>it was you versus Leilani Kai, and then that led
<v Speaker 2>to the end of the match where Itsuki had chased
<v Speaker 2>him around for a minute, and then something had happened
<v Speaker 2>where he ended up getting on the apron and then
<v Speaker 2>Leilani had ran into him. So I just wanted to
<v Speaker 2>ask about that whole situation to see if you guys
<v Speaker 2>like had any kind of good relationship with him and
<v Speaker 2>you would be also with him because he was part
<v Speaker 2>of them as well, you know.
<v Speaker 1>So I just wanted to ask about that.
<v Speaker 3>Hmm. Some Miami listening he was just stating there it did, yeah,
<v Speaker 3>of course, you know, Jimmy Hart came between those matches
<v Speaker 3>to bother them or whatever he had to do during
<v Speaker 3>the match. This, Yes, he felt like what is he
<v Speaker 3>doing or why is he in the middle of this?
<v Speaker 3>But they just did what they had to do. As
<v Speaker 3>a wrestler, they just did wrestling. They wanted to show
<v Speaker 3>the fans the wrestling technique. So it doesn't personally has
<v Speaker 3>nothing to do with she she loves Jimmy Hark.
<v Speaker 9>That's fair.
<v Speaker 2>Uh So I also didn't want to ask about So.
<v Speaker 2>I actually recently watched the original Roy Rumble and during
<v Speaker 2>that event, you see when the Jumping Bomb Angels had
<v Speaker 2>won the w w F Women's tag team titles. During
<v Speaker 2>that match, that had to be the loudest pop of
<v Speaker 2>the night was when you guys had won it. How
<v Speaker 2>did it feel to hear such a huge pop from
<v Speaker 2>the Western audience? So then you.
<v Speaker 3>Know, go get back. So, as a wrestler, like it was,
<v Speaker 3>she was very happy that she won, but the crowd
<v Speaker 3>pop everything. She felt like, I am so glad that
<v Speaker 3>I could show the fans the wrestling that we wanted
<v Speaker 3>to show. That the crowd felt the same way. And
<v Speaker 3>even though she cannot speak English, she was so happy
<v Speaker 3>that wrestling. Showing the wrestling made the crowd, the foreign
<v Speaker 3>crowd so happy and so excited, and she out the
<v Speaker 3>same way. Even though she couldn't communicate, she felt like
<v Speaker 3>the wrestling communicated for her, So that's what she does.
<v Speaker 3>The really happy thing that she had was the she
<v Speaker 3>wanted to do her wrestling, and the fans felt the
<v Speaker 3>same way to be happy even though she couldn't speak English.
<v Speaker 5>I see.
<v Speaker 2>So she was glad that her performance did the talking
<v Speaker 2>rather than her communication. Yes, okay, that's a good way
<v Speaker 2>to look at it. And I'm glad that you were
<v Speaker 2>able to show the Western audience the Joshi wrestling style
<v Speaker 2>and really showed that there was more than just the
<v Speaker 2>WWF style at the time.
<v Speaker 3>Oh so sane instead of.
<v Speaker 1>Mina song, so something else that I did want to
<v Speaker 1>hit on.
<v Speaker 2>So while watching that match in the beginning of it,
<v Speaker 2>did you know that the commentators didn't seem to know
<v Speaker 2>your name, or at least that's how they had acted.
<v Speaker 2>They had claimed that at first they were just calling
<v Speaker 2>you guys by the color of your outfits. They were saying, yeah,
<v Speaker 2>that's the pink angel and that's the red Angel. We
<v Speaker 2>don't know their names at the moment, at.
<v Speaker 1>Least that's how it sounds. Are you aware of that.
<v Speaker 3>I don't know my idea? What I did? I know
<v Speaker 3>a do you know the most of it? She had
<v Speaker 3>no idea about but she she she heard that since
<v Speaker 3>they were both agents and she they all said they
<v Speaker 3>look like twins. So she doesn't feel any anything bad.
<v Speaker 3>She just really they didn't know that they were saying that, yeah,
<v Speaker 3>the pink Angel anything like that, but she she she
<v Speaker 3>didn't care.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, that's a good way to look at it. Just
<v Speaker 1>let it brush off.
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I found that really strange when I was
<v Speaker 2>watching the other day because watching it, all I was
<v Speaker 2>thinking was like, Okay, they haven't said their names yet.
<v Speaker 1>That's a little bit strange.
<v Speaker 2>Then I heard the commentators at one point say like, hey,
<v Speaker 2>what's the name of these two, and then the other
<v Speaker 2>person I think it was Vince McMahon and god, who's
<v Speaker 2>the other guy, Jesse Ventura at the time, and they
<v Speaker 2>went back and forth for a second like, uh, I
<v Speaker 2>don't really know, and then later on one of them said, uh, oh,
<v Speaker 2>so I heard that the one in the pink is
<v Speaker 2>named uh Norino. And then the other one it said like,
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, that sounds more Italian or something, And
<v Speaker 2>just hearing that exchange, it kind of threw me off,
<v Speaker 2>thinking like they didn't know the performers' names at this point.
<v Speaker 3>But I'm doing that's' bes sit some sick and height
<v Speaker 3>to I can know, we want, we want to understand.
<v Speaker 5>But who.
<v Speaker 3>Okay, So they used to call them as a tad name.
<v Speaker 3>The company itself used to call them as like jumping
<v Speaker 3>bomb angels. So she felt she feels like, I don't
<v Speaker 3>think they knew our name individually. Maybe it was kind
<v Speaker 3>of hard to remember and the name individually because they
<v Speaker 3>need to just call us jumping bomb angels.
<v Speaker 1>I see, Oh that makes sense, guys them all and.
<v Speaker 3>Oh even backstage, they used to call her angels and angels.
<v Speaker 3>It's like they were both angels. The name or angels,
<v Speaker 3>not not your the two key with angels and angels.
<v Speaker 3>So and as angels and the other angel. It was
<v Speaker 3>the angel and the other angel. That's how they used
<v Speaker 3>to call him in the backstage.
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, that's terrible. But all right, that's not
<v Speaker 1>quite where I expected that to go. But that is interesting.
<v Speaker 2>So backstage, I was told that you guys got along
<v Speaker 2>with a pretty interesting cast of people, and you already
<v Speaker 2>had mentioned who was it, Davy Boy Smith and Dynamite Kid.
<v Speaker 2>How is your relations with them? Considering uh, you know,
<v Speaker 2>it seems like Dynamite Kid especially as kind of a
<v Speaker 2>bad rap these days. How is your relationship with him
<v Speaker 2>considering what we've heard so far.
<v Speaker 3>The relationship with the British bulldog.
<v Speaker 1>Yes, the British Bulldogs.
<v Speaker 3>Bris but do you know you know.
<v Speaker 5>A b C.
<v Speaker 3>Netive Okay, so yes, they used to do like they
<v Speaker 3>used to be like really translator slash kind of assistant
<v Speaker 3>who was looking over everything for them. And even they
<v Speaker 3>did the three different side different venues, even if the
<v Speaker 3>British Bulldogs are not there, they made sure somebody took
<v Speaker 3>care of the angels, like they the one who made
<v Speaker 3>sure somebody was there for them. Okay, so really, uh
<v Speaker 3>it was British Bulldogs. They used to come to Japan
<v Speaker 3>and we went in Giant Babbas promotion, Antonio Inoki promotion.
<v Speaker 3>So they always said Japanese people took care of them,
<v Speaker 3>so they want to do it back for them. Like
<v Speaker 3>all the Japanese wrestlers, they felt like they had to
<v Speaker 3>take care because Japanese wrestlers took care of them. So
<v Speaker 3>they're just giving back what they received in Japan.
<v Speaker 2>I see, they paid it forward for you guys, really
<v Speaker 2>made sure that you were all taking care of them.
<v Speaker 2>Glad that you had that connection with them.
<v Speaker 3>Yes, they've been so thankful.
<v Speaker 1>Awesome.
<v Speaker 2>So uh It'suki had also mentioned uh Harley Race and
<v Speaker 2>a few others like Ultimate Warrior. Did you feel the
<v Speaker 2>same connection with them that they were always just having
<v Speaker 2>your back and uh just always there for you guys?
<v Speaker 3>How did they so it's done? They so to Halle
<v Speaker 3>Rays and who was there again, I'm sorry Ultimate Warriors?
<v Speaker 6>Yeah you nesp.
<v Speaker 5>Oh.
<v Speaker 3>So she one time she hurt her knee. She it
<v Speaker 3>was okay, but she did like her knee was feeling
<v Speaker 3>a little awkward, and a warrior lend her the knee
<v Speaker 3>supporter one time, and then she did wrestle with his
<v Speaker 3>knee supporter and that was really helpful for her.
<v Speaker 1>Really, that's pretty awesome.
<v Speaker 2>That's pretty cool that he was able to help you
<v Speaker 2>out that way. I'm really glad that you were able
<v Speaker 2>to be helped out by him. All Right, So moving on,
<v Speaker 2>what exactly were your guys' living conditions and arrangement when
<v Speaker 2>you came to America? Where were you guys staying and
<v Speaker 2>being taken care of by?
<v Speaker 3>At first? Yes, I'm I'm going you do you condition
<v Speaker 3>that's the guys in that guys supporter Okay, so at first,
<v Speaker 3>so they were foreigners, foreigners, so it's the same thing
<v Speaker 3>as Japan when they invite the foreigners, they let them
<v Speaker 3>stay in the hotel to hotels. So they were that's
<v Speaker 3>what they were doing, sleeping from one hotel to the
<v Speaker 3>next hotel to the next hotel. But Moula also took
<v Speaker 3>care of them from the beginning. Was had something to
<v Speaker 3>do with them.
<v Speaker 5>And you know what, did you.
<v Speaker 3>Okay there? So okay, So in the beginning Mulla was
<v Speaker 3>also I was taking care of them. So they did
<v Speaker 3>put the all their belongings at Mulla's because Mulla had
<v Speaker 3>the whole address was Mula or something like that, whole
<v Speaker 3>area was Mullah. I think it was like a little
<v Speaker 3>like trailer house type, that's what I heard. That's what
<v Speaker 3>she said. It was like a trailer is but they
<v Speaker 3>were never there because they had to travel all over
<v Speaker 3>the world. So that's how they had to be in
<v Speaker 3>the hotels, the hotels, hotels.
<v Speaker 6>America mm hmm.
<v Speaker 3>Okay, so in the United States, the Christmas vacation is long,
<v Speaker 3>so time like that. When they did not have the matches,
<v Speaker 3>they did go back to Mulla's trailers out trailer house
<v Speaker 3>and they had their belongings over there, So that's when
<v Speaker 3>when they went back and relaxed.
<v Speaker 1>I see, I see.
<v Speaker 2>So with Itsuki's interview, we talked a little bit about
<v Speaker 2>Mula and she seemed to have not had the best
<v Speaker 2>experience with the fabulous Mula. I'd like to ask your
<v Speaker 2>opinion on Mula and just see what your experience was
<v Speaker 2>like with her as well. If you don't mind, you
<v Speaker 2>don't have to share anything that you don't feel comfortable with.
<v Speaker 2>It's obviously up to you what you want to say.
<v Speaker 2>And if you don't feel comfortable.
<v Speaker 3>And you're not, you schedule ands.
<v Speaker 5>Mmmm more. And I was still just tweak it.
<v Speaker 3>Okay. So she was older also, and she was wrestler
<v Speaker 3>as an older like a sempi there. She was older,
<v Speaker 3>and she has the impression that Mulah is the one
<v Speaker 3>who made the women's wrestling m so she has a
<v Speaker 3>lot of respect for that.
<v Speaker 6>But yeah, then I got out.
<v Speaker 3>She don't really have anything negative to say because she
<v Speaker 3>wasn't really interacting with her either, so she didn't really
<v Speaker 3>care for it. It wasn't like she had any bad
<v Speaker 3>experience with her. She don't really remember anything bad about her.
<v Speaker 2>Actually, Okay, it's Uki had mentioned that when you guys
<v Speaker 2>had left and went back to Japan, that she didn't
<v Speaker 2>send you guys all the things that you had at
<v Speaker 2>the house when they claimed that they did. Maybe wanted
<v Speaker 2>to see if she remembered that or.
<v Speaker 3>Now she remembers as soon as you told him, I
<v Speaker 3>told her she okay, yeah, yeah, like she sent us
<v Speaker 3>a bunch of junk, but she never sent them nothing
<v Speaker 3>they really needed, like all the important stuff they kept.
<v Speaker 3>So she felt like, oh, well, because they can't go
<v Speaker 3>and go go to the United States anymore, they can't
<v Speaker 3>go get the stuff. So they felt like she feels like, oh, well,
<v Speaker 3>you know, I can't go back to the United States.
<v Speaker 3>I can't go get it. So if they want to
<v Speaker 3>keep it, and what can I That's how she feels.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, that's fair, you know, you just let it roll
<v Speaker 2>off your back. It is what it is.
<v Speaker 3>Kind of a situation, right, Maybe she feel like Maybemula
<v Speaker 3>needed those things. Maybe she needed those so she's us
<v Speaker 3>let it go.
<v Speaker 1>I understand.
<v Speaker 2>So I also want to ask about so what did
<v Speaker 2>you feel was some of the differences between going from
<v Speaker 2>w w F and a j W Did you feel
<v Speaker 2>like or what were some of the differences, at least
<v Speaker 2>in the locker room. Did you feel more respected less respected?
<v Speaker 2>Did you feel like everybody got along better in one
<v Speaker 2>or the other. How did you feel between the two.
<v Speaker 3>You mean after the w W, well, just in general
<v Speaker 3>and not notch the Ho Kong store. It was such
<v Speaker 3>a big difference.
<v Speaker 6>Then what you got this debut did excuse?
<v Speaker 5>You do need mak it ull So for a j W.
<v Speaker 3>You get hired. It's like, uh, you have to work
<v Speaker 3>for the compty, the worker for the company. Do you do?
<v Speaker 3>You do the you get into the dorm, you do
<v Speaker 3>the practice, and then they tell you to have match
<v Speaker 3>and then go do whatever whatever they say and go
<v Speaker 3>to the match.
<v Speaker 5>But w W.
<v Speaker 3>It's all you have to take care of your own self.
<v Speaker 5>So there the movie, so it is then they did.
<v Speaker 3>Morning okay, so w w F they did send the
<v Speaker 3>airplane airplane ticket. But from there on you have to
<v Speaker 3>make arrangements for the hotel. You have to make your
<v Speaker 3>own arrangement to move around like a rent a car,
<v Speaker 3>et cetera. So that was a huge difference. AJW provided
<v Speaker 3>everything from step one. It was all there, okay, there's
<v Speaker 3>a bus right here, you go get on and go
<v Speaker 3>to wherever we tell you to go, and then you
<v Speaker 3>just go do the match. There was AJW was like that,
<v Speaker 3>but ww with more what kind of not freedom? But
<v Speaker 3>you have to take care of your own self. We'll
<v Speaker 3>send you the the money and uh, you know, the
<v Speaker 3>airplane ticket, but other than that, how to even get
<v Speaker 3>to the venue you have to arrange it everything yourself.
<v Speaker 1>I see.
<v Speaker 2>So it seemed like w w F gave you a
<v Speaker 2>little bit more independence, but a little bit less I
<v Speaker 2>don't want to say less work, but you weren't doing
<v Speaker 2>everything for the company, while a j W seemed like
<v Speaker 2>they were doing everything for you and trying to help
<v Speaker 2>you out, but you also were doing more work.
<v Speaker 1>Is that a correct way to put it?
<v Speaker 3>Right? Right?
<v Speaker 1>Okay?
<v Speaker 5>I see?
<v Speaker 1>So what about the h locker room?
<v Speaker 2>Did you feel like just wrestling is wrestling, You kind
<v Speaker 2>of enter everybody's pretty much the same or did you
<v Speaker 2>feel like one gave you a different experience just interacting
<v Speaker 2>with everybody backstage?
<v Speaker 3>Man the money, it is a b okay, so like
<v Speaker 3>in Japan, back in the locker room, it's like Red
<v Speaker 3>Corner and Blue Corner has a totally different locker room.
<v Speaker 3>But w WF was more like, okay, you're the JB Angels,
<v Speaker 3>so you go in this locker room and some she.
<v Speaker 1>Said, Elizabeth, miss Elizabeth.
<v Speaker 3>Yes, someone used to come by and stuff like that.
<v Speaker 3>So it was it was different. It was kind of
<v Speaker 3>w w F was kind of kind of lonely thing.
<v Speaker 3>She felt like that it was always just her and Zooki,
<v Speaker 3>so it was not like all the Red Corner wrestlers
<v Speaker 3>were there. It was just them too. So and then
<v Speaker 3>there was really like during the whole venue, it was
<v Speaker 3>only like one JOS woman's match, so they were like
<v Speaker 3>the only women sometimes, so you know. And of course
<v Speaker 3>the arrival so like in like a big venue when
<v Speaker 3>they were more women's wrestler, the baby Face were all
<v Speaker 3>together behind the scene with war. That was the difference.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I see, so a little bit more grouped together
<v Speaker 2>over in Japan, whereas W is a little bit more
<v Speaker 2>private and kind of made things more lonely. I see
<v Speaker 2>that can be a little daunting. I could relate to that,
<v Speaker 2>I guess a little bit more. My apologies, my throat's
<v Speaker 2>a little bit messed up today. But anyways, so did
<v Speaker 2>you watch.
<v Speaker 1>The Queen of Villains series? By chance?
<v Speaker 3>Yes?
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Mamo.
<v Speaker 3>So she did remember the back in the days by
<v Speaker 3>watching The Queen of Villains, but honestly, it was half
<v Speaker 3>truth and half story. She that's her feeling it was
<v Speaker 3>half made up.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I was going to ask how accurate did you feel?
<v Speaker 2>And well, that makes sense if you're already saying it's
<v Speaker 2>half and half. Did you feel certain things were misrepresented
<v Speaker 2>throughout it committed?
<v Speaker 3>She said, yes, there are a lot of of that,
<v Speaker 3>but this is a show, and she feels like it's
<v Speaker 3>like a you know, one of the dramatic drama shows.
<v Speaker 3>So it is made up story to make the whole
<v Speaker 3>storyline and too to have the audience watching feel certain ways.
<v Speaker 3>So she feels like, well, that's a that's a that's
<v Speaker 3>a show. But she did feel like she wanted to
<v Speaker 3>be a part of it a little bit in that show.
<v Speaker 3>That's the only thing. She did want it to be
<v Speaker 3>a part, but there were no parts, so she feel
<v Speaker 3>like a.
<v Speaker 2>Little Yeah, I could understand feeling a little bit slighted.
<v Speaker 2>I mean I was kind of wondering that as well,
<v Speaker 2>considering how many times you guys had been up against
<v Speaker 2>the Crushcals and the history with Matsmoto and Bowl it's
<v Speaker 2>like they're kind of missing a piece here.
<v Speaker 1>So do you think maybe in the future we could
<v Speaker 1>get a Jumping Bomb Angels series by.
<v Speaker 3>Chance, Jumping woman just no, she did no, no, no,
<v Speaker 3>I don't think so. I don't think that will happen.
<v Speaker 2>That is fine if not too interested in it. But
<v Speaker 2>so in the w w F, there was a lot
<v Speaker 2>of things that you had overcome. Did you feel from
<v Speaker 2>the beginning that you were welcomed by fans or did
<v Speaker 2>you feel like walking in there was negative energy from
<v Speaker 2>the crowd?
<v Speaker 3>Everything fun that you med yo, So they were since
<v Speaker 3>they were from Japan, there was so many booings. The
<v Speaker 3>boo that's what they had to enter into. Booing at first,
<v Speaker 3>well baby since there's a baby face. From the beginning,
<v Speaker 3>about like a week past, they started to cheer for them.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so not too long, and then they started to
<v Speaker 2>get on your side. That's actually pretty fast, I will
<v Speaker 2>give you that.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, alright, I'm not Yeah, it was fast.
<v Speaker 5>I don't know.
<v Speaker 3>Even the foreign they are considered foreigners from the United States.
<v Speaker 3>It was kind of rare to start off as a
<v Speaker 3>baby face, they felt like. So they were really thankful
<v Speaker 3>for that because a lot of Japanese wrestlers start off
<v Speaker 3>like a heal character. That's what's her impression once?
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I see, so coming over being the foreign character,
<v Speaker 2>they immediately just went to a negative response.
<v Speaker 3>I see.
<v Speaker 5>Uh.
<v Speaker 2>So there was something that I noticed during a match
<v Speaker 2>that you had with Leilani Kai, and that was both
<v Speaker 2>you and your partner were wearing outfits that were specifically
<v Speaker 2>American flag and that even the commentators, uh noticed it.
<v Speaker 2>So I wanted to ask you about was that specifically
<v Speaker 2>set up for you guys to try to appeal to
<v Speaker 2>the crowd or was there a specific reason behind it, or.
<v Speaker 1>Was it just what you guys had.
<v Speaker 3>Associated American so sort of American American, American America. Okay,
<v Speaker 3>so that was actually they were wearing in in a
<v Speaker 3>j W when they went back to Japan from DAT
<v Speaker 3>one time. So that was their costume actually, and they
<v Speaker 3>wore another states and they were like, oh my goodness,
<v Speaker 3>like we just brought this whole American flag, you know, outfit,
<v Speaker 3>but like they wasn't really like planning. They were like,
<v Speaker 3>oh gosh, are we okay with this? But it took
<v Speaker 3>he did take off the stars because she was white
<v Speaker 3>and black. It took he was wearing white, white and
<v Speaker 3>black color, but she did take off the stars and
<v Speaker 3>pink also hers was pink and white and blue, so
<v Speaker 3>they did toll her you cannot wear that, so other wrestlers.
<v Speaker 3>She had to borrow from the costume from other wrestlers
<v Speaker 3>because because since the Japanese they didn't want her to
<v Speaker 3>wear the American flagish outfit American book, so w w
<v Speaker 3>F wanted them to they hired a Japanese wrestlers, so
<v Speaker 3>they told them, you don't have to be like American
<v Speaker 3>favorite like American is American outfits that they want them
<v Speaker 3>to be a Japanese.
<v Speaker 1>Wrestler, So right right, I see.
<v Speaker 2>So something else I wanted to ask you guys about
<v Speaker 2>do you keep up with the current w w F
<v Speaker 2>or Joshi products by.
<v Speaker 1>Chance you mean w W E yesh yeah.
<v Speaker 3>W W jos this thing they're not really she does
<v Speaker 3>not really watch.
<v Speaker 6>Or American.
<v Speaker 3>But jaque.
<v Speaker 6>So you American.
<v Speaker 3>So she here from outside people as like a you know,
<v Speaker 3>like either newspaper or magazine people that nowadays American wrestling
<v Speaker 3>is is more towards Back in the day, Japanese wrestling
<v Speaker 3>and Japanese wrestling became like a American wrestling show like
<v Speaker 3>a like a show now that's how she hears nowadays.
<v Speaker 1>I see.
<v Speaker 2>So I also did want to ask about so, if
<v Speaker 2>you could have one more match with either tag team
<v Speaker 2>or singles, who would you want to be your opponent?
<v Speaker 1>Nowadays?
<v Speaker 3>Targeting the more she wanted to say. As a tag team,
<v Speaker 3>she want to go against Leilani and Judy, but she
<v Speaker 3>want to go against crush girls.
<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm, I see.
<v Speaker 3>Singer Hingle Texas. If she's do you have to do
<v Speaker 3>single match? She's not like a single match wrestler, but
<v Speaker 3>she will love to wrestle Lioness Asca from Crossgairls. You
<v Speaker 3>got there's a reason for it's Oh, so she felt like, uh,
<v Speaker 3>she wasn't really ready to have a match as a
<v Speaker 3>single wrestler because of her either the knowledge and the
<v Speaker 3>physical her physical style, her body, her she wasn't ready yet.
<v Speaker 3>But maybe after about three years later, she did have
<v Speaker 3>a single match with Lionis Osca, and that's the time
<v Speaker 3>she felt like, I think I'm I'm ready. That's the match.
<v Speaker 3>She really felt like she was ready, that she is
<v Speaker 3>a pro wrestler. That's how she felt.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So at that point she felt like she was
<v Speaker 2>ready to go and absolutely could take Oscar at that
<v Speaker 2>point and wanted to really put on the best possible
<v Speaker 2>show for.
<v Speaker 9>The crowd at that point, right, I see.
<v Speaker 5>I see.
<v Speaker 2>So with that in mind, obviously we can't really talk
<v Speaker 2>too much about today's product, but do you feel that
<v Speaker 2>wrestling has evolved for the better with your contributions to
<v Speaker 2>everything that is transpired?
<v Speaker 3>Suddy, It's like she don't feel she does not feel
<v Speaker 3>like she did anything to the wrestling present day, but
<v Speaker 3>that she's very happy that there's still a woman's wrestling
<v Speaker 3>that's still going on and it's still popular, and it
<v Speaker 3>feels like she is glad that she became a wrestler
<v Speaker 3>for that reason that it's still going on. I see.
<v Speaker 1>So.
<v Speaker 2>Something that I do want to say, ma'am, I believe
<v Speaker 2>that your contributions and everything that you did, especially going
<v Speaker 2>in front of a w w F audience at the
<v Speaker 2>time and showing Joji's style, I feel that you and
<v Speaker 2>your partner both helped really push along American wrestling.
<v Speaker 1>And made it evolve to how it is today.
<v Speaker 2>I feel that your guys style may have inspired others
<v Speaker 2>to be better than how it was, basically breaking out
<v Speaker 2>of what I would call the fabulous move lost style
<v Speaker 2>of women's wrestling for the longest time. So I want
<v Speaker 2>to say thank you for your contributions to women's wrestling
<v Speaker 2>and how far.
<v Speaker 1>That you have come. Also, so we're getting close to the.
<v Speaker 2>End of our interview and time together, but I do
<v Speaker 2>want to ask if either of you two have any
<v Speaker 2>recommendations for our audience, as we always do this towards
<v Speaker 2>the end of our show. Last time, we had talked
<v Speaker 2>a little about The Queen of Villains, which I did
<v Speaker 2>watch and honestly I would give it ten out of ten.
<v Speaker 2>I feel like everybody should watch it. But I wanted
<v Speaker 2>to ask your guys recommendations as well. Can be anything, book, song, movie, poem,
<v Speaker 2>video game, doesn't really matter.
<v Speaker 1>What would you recommend?
<v Speaker 3>Ma'm a movie? No mean much question? So this we should.
<v Speaker 1>Ye?
<v Speaker 3>So yes now this present day, Yes, I'm with It's key.
<v Speaker 3>I think I have to go with a queen valand also.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, understandable, uh KENO. I assume that your recommendation hasn't
<v Speaker 2>changed either, unless you have something else that.
<v Speaker 3>I do I have. I have a new one. I
<v Speaker 3>like Showgun.
<v Speaker 1>Show Gun. Okay, what's that about? You have to watch it. Okay,
<v Speaker 1>it's really good.
<v Speaker 3>Yes, that was really good. I recommend that more than
<v Speaker 3>what I said the last time.
<v Speaker 1>Hey, that's fair.
<v Speaker 2>So all right, my recommendation for this week for anybody
<v Speaker 2>that is listening, So I'm going to recommend a certain
<v Speaker 2>poem that I've heard somewhat recently, and it was alone
<v Speaker 2>by Edgar Allan Poe. I'm not really sure why, but
<v Speaker 2>hearing it it made me think of the wrestler Raven
<v Speaker 2>from E c W, and I think any wrestling fan
<v Speaker 2>would probably agree. Just hearing it and seeing like the
<v Speaker 2>way that his character was, you could probably relate the
<v Speaker 2>two as well. So I want to ask before we
<v Speaker 2>do any kind of sign offs or anything, Miss Nodio,
<v Speaker 2>do you have anything that you would like the audience
<v Speaker 2>to know or anything you'd like to say to them
<v Speaker 2>before we do any kind of sign offs?
<v Speaker 3>And thank you very much for support and the wrestlers nowadays.
<v Speaker 3>She gave all the energy, all the thank appreciation and
<v Speaker 3>to keep doing great job. And anybody who want to
<v Speaker 3>come to Tokyo and want to drink and have a
<v Speaker 3>good time. And my bar is called Gohan, please go
<v Speaker 3>search the map so anything it will come up and
<v Speaker 3>you'll always welcome to my bar.
<v Speaker 1>Awesome.
<v Speaker 2>Awesome, Okay, I was I almost forgot about asking about
<v Speaker 2>promoting yourselves.
<v Speaker 1>So Gohan is the bar? Correct?
<v Speaker 3>Yes, it's g o h a n like dragon ball
<v Speaker 3>Goku to Gohan. This is a sun. Yes, it's the
<v Speaker 3>same spelling.
<v Speaker 1>I see. Well.
<v Speaker 2>I do greatly appreciate your time for being on the shows.
<v Speaker 2>I thank you very much for that, and last thing
<v Speaker 2>for the audience. As my usual, you guys can always
<v Speaker 2>reach me at maintenance, MAV, on Twitter, X, whatever you
<v Speaker 2>want to call it. Do something nice for somebody. You
<v Speaker 2>guys never know who needs it. Always want to step
<v Speaker 2>out and try to do something for somebody. And how
<v Speaker 2>can they reach you guys as well?
<v Speaker 9>Misnodio jumping instead?
<v Speaker 5>Can I meet?
<v Speaker 3>Okay, so it's a jumping bomb Angels, Instagram or X
<v Speaker 3>as long as you know if there's an offer or
<v Speaker 3>any message, there's a Facebook jumping by Angels. But if
<v Speaker 3>you want to see me in person, there's a barco Gohan.
<v Speaker 2>He yeah, all right, So we have a ghost A
<v Speaker 2>over in New York and Gohan over in Japan.
<v Speaker 1>Awesome.
<v Speaker 3>I want to finish.
<v Speaker 1>I want to visit both by all means if I can.
<v Speaker 2>But all right, yes, awesome, all right. So with that,
<v Speaker 2>thank you both for being here. That's it for the
<v Speaker 2>interview and the words of my friend Memphis Mark, we're out.
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