Georgia Sasquatch Encounters: Scott & Sheila’s Expeditions in the North Georgia Mountains

<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to Sasquatch Theory. In this episode, we head
<v Speaker 1>deep into the North Georgia Mountains, where Scott and Sheila
<v Speaker 1>share their chilling encounters with sasquatch. From a towering cinnamon
<v Speaker 1>colored creature swaying behind a tree to motion lights triggered
<v Speaker 1>outside the remote cabin at night, their lives have been
<v Speaker 1>forever change by the presence of these beans. With years
<v Speaker 1>of experience guiding expeditions into the woods, they've uncovered fresh tracks,
<v Speaker 1>glowing orbs, bone rattling roars, and greasy fingerprints left on
<v Speaker 1>their vehicles. Tonight, Scott and Shila take us into the
<v Speaker 1>heart of the Georgia Mountains and beyond, where encounters with
<v Speaker 1>sasquatch lead to the mysterious world of other cryptids and
<v Speaker 1>unknown creatures. I would really like to meet up with
<v Speaker 1>Scott and Sheila in person, and if you guys are
<v Speaker 1>listening to this podcast right now, let's make that happen.
<v Speaker 1>I would very much like to meet you guys, and
<v Speaker 1>I would be extremely grateful to go on an expedition
<v Speaker 1>with you guys. And if you guys want to check
<v Speaker 1>out their group, it's called Squatch Fishing Outfitters, and I
<v Speaker 1>highly recommend that you do so. Scott and Sheila's encounters
<v Speaker 1>and experiences are truly extraordinary. I learned so much after
<v Speaker 1>speaking with Scott and Sheila, and it really opened up
<v Speaker 1>my eyes to the different possibilities of doing research out
<v Speaker 1>in the forest. When you dive too deep into the
<v Speaker 1>supernatural rabbit hole, it can really discourage you and make
<v Speaker 1>you feel like finding evidence is impossible. But I always
<v Speaker 1>remind myself that Roger Patterson and Bob Gimlin were able
<v Speaker 1>to get clear footage of these creatures. If you enjoy
<v Speaker 1>listening Sasquatch Theory, please like the video, subscribe to the
<v Speaker 1>channel and comming down below, And if you have a
<v Speaker 1>bigfoot encounter that you would like to share with me
<v Speaker 1>here on the channel, please contact me sometime at Sasquatch
<v Speaker 1>Theory at outlook dot com. All right, let's dive straight
<v Speaker 1>into Scott and Shila's bigfoot encounters from the State of Georgia.
<v Speaker 1>All right, Scott, Sheila, welcome to Sasquatch Theory. How are
<v Speaker 1>you guys doing today.
<v Speaker 2>We're good, We're doing good. Thank you.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, absolutely, it's a pleasure to have you both on
<v Speaker 1>the show. Scott and Sheila. If you would tell me
<v Speaker 1>a little bit about yourselves and your bigfoot experiences from
<v Speaker 1>the very beginning, please.
<v Speaker 3>Okay, Well, we started this adventure way back in twenty eighteen.
<v Speaker 3>Myself and Sheila are both retired law enforcement offers. We
<v Speaker 3>got into this because she drug me to a bigfoot
<v Speaker 3>outing our bigfoot expedition one time, and I went with
<v Speaker 3>her and on it. And how was that person? You
<v Speaker 3>know that I hunted and fished all my life in
<v Speaker 3>the river bottoms and swamps, and I was a very
<v Speaker 3>bad skeptic. And I told her, I said, I said,
<v Speaker 3>you know, if anything like this ever existed, I would
<v Speaker 3>have seen it or something like that. And uh low
<v Speaker 3>and behold, I did get to see one that changed
<v Speaker 3>my whole attitude about everything. And it was, you know,
<v Speaker 3>it was life changing event for me.
<v Speaker 2>I had I'd always thought about bigfoot, you know, but
<v Speaker 2>just thought it was like a unicorn. It was mythical.
<v Speaker 2>But my biggest thing is I loved the legend of
<v Speaker 2>Boggy Creek. That was my movie. And uh so when
<v Speaker 2>we moved from South Georgia to North Georgia, I seen
<v Speaker 2>there was there were having a beefit expedition. So I
<v Speaker 2>just beg Scott, please, let's go, Let's go, and I
<v Speaker 2>finally talked him into it, even though he was just
<v Speaker 2>doing it for my benefit. He was a total skeptic.
<v Speaker 2>And then we went to the the expedition. We were
<v Speaker 2>there night early, and we went out with a couple
<v Speaker 2>of people that were there that you know, had had
<v Speaker 2>their own sightings, and things happened that you know, we
<v Speaker 2>we could not explain. I mean, Scott was just floored,
<v Speaker 2>you know, the things. We didn't have any sightings that night,
<v Speaker 2>but we did have a lot of you know, we
<v Speaker 2>heard a lot of things. And from that point on,
<v Speaker 2>you know, we were you go down this rabbit hole,
<v Speaker 2>either you'll love it and you'll want to go out
<v Speaker 2>in woods and seek more, or you're either going to
<v Speaker 2>be terrified to go back in the woods. Well I
<v Speaker 2>couldn't wait to stay in the woods. And we were out.
<v Speaker 2>My sighting, my my very first sighting, happened in twenty
<v Speaker 2>nineteen September. We were out scouting for a place to
<v Speaker 2>go camping. It was me and Scott and one of
<v Speaker 2>our friends and we were actually in North Georgia, in Clayton, Georgia.
<v Speaker 2>As a matter of fact, I mean it was about
<v Speaker 2>two o'clock in the afternoon, and it was a nice day.
<v Speaker 2>Not a lot of foolage on the tree. Because like
<v Speaker 2>I said, it was September. I did not have my
<v Speaker 2>cell phone, and honestly, I usually carry in the woods
<v Speaker 2>because of hogs. I'm more terrified of hogs, wild hogs
<v Speaker 2>than anything. Didn't have any of that. And we the
<v Speaker 2>last minute, we decided to go to the top of
<v Speaker 2>a ridge, you know, to see what we could see
<v Speaker 2>and look down. Well, I started up the ridge, and
<v Speaker 2>why I had momentum. I you know, I kept going.
<v Speaker 2>I didn't want to slow down because it's pretty rough
<v Speaker 2>climbing up there. And Scott and my friends stayed at
<v Speaker 2>the base because they were looking at a tree that
<v Speaker 2>looked like something was grabbing onto When it started up
<v Speaker 2>the ridge, like get up the ridge, you know, and
<v Speaker 2>I'm looking over actually at our cars and the dirt
<v Speaker 2>roads and all the little trails and everything, you know,
<v Speaker 2>just just looking at it as beautiful up there. And
<v Speaker 2>then I heard it like a clicking noise, and I
<v Speaker 2>took a step back and I looked over towards my
<v Speaker 2>four o'clock and you know, and I could see it
<v Speaker 2>was about twenty five yards away, and I could see
<v Speaker 2>really good because, like I said, it wasn't all the
<v Speaker 2>foliage on the trees and everything. So I'm looking and
<v Speaker 2>I see movement, you know what I'm squitting, and I'm like,
<v Speaker 2>in your mind, you're thinking, what the heck is that?
<v Speaker 2>What moved a little bit more and it was behind
<v Speaker 2>a tree and both hands were on the tree, and
<v Speaker 2>it was just a little bit of movements, and I
<v Speaker 2>out loud. I colled for Scott Scott because I thought
<v Speaker 2>they were coming on up where they were still down
<v Speaker 2>the ridge, you know, and this thing's looking at me
<v Speaker 2>and I'm looking at We have eye context, so there's
<v Speaker 2>absolutely no doubt in my mind whatsoever. The left shoulder
<v Speaker 2>was on the left side of the tree, but the
<v Speaker 2>right shoulder was on the right side of the tree too,
<v Speaker 2>And it started doing a little bit more bouncy things.
<v Speaker 2>It looked like a huge man with no neck that
<v Speaker 2>maybe had on like a cinnamon looking, I don't know,
<v Speaker 2>fur coat. The hair wasn't that long, there was no
<v Speaker 2>facial hair. It looked like lay on the face. And
<v Speaker 2>then I said, you know, it was moving a little
<v Speaker 2>bit more, and this this was so fast it happened
<v Speaker 2>so fast, and when it was bouncing a little bit more,
<v Speaker 2>I hollered out Scott like that, you know, because I
<v Speaker 2>didn't know if this thing was fixing what was fixing
<v Speaker 2>to happen. But in my I'm looking at this that
<v Speaker 2>should not exist. Like everything that your mom ever told
<v Speaker 2>you boogers aren't real or whatever, it is a lie
<v Speaker 2>because in your mind at that time, it's like you're
<v Speaker 2>unwrapping years of you know, what you thought was reality.
<v Speaker 2>So when when I called the second time, Scott and
<v Speaker 2>our friend come running up there as best as they could,
<v Speaker 2>and I'm shaking like a leaf on a tree, pointing
<v Speaker 2>there was a book there was a big foot right there.
<v Speaker 2>So I showed Scott the tree and or my friend
<v Speaker 2>and you know, we me and him took off over
<v Speaker 2>there to find the spot. Now, I was a call
<v Speaker 2>for twenty years. If I had called, you know, description
<v Speaker 2>on it over the over the radio, I would have
<v Speaker 2>said it would have been about six six and a
<v Speaker 2>half foot tall. But when I get there, it was
<v Speaker 2>on the decline, so whatever it was had to be
<v Speaker 2>at least seven seven half foot tall. But when I
<v Speaker 2>when I called Scott the second time, this thing dropped
<v Speaker 2>like a puff of smoke on all fours and just
<v Speaker 2>took off.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we get up there. Her explanation of her shaking
<v Speaker 3>is very like I understated, because she was she was
<v Speaker 3>rattling from the top of her head to her ankles
<v Speaker 3>and everything. She's telling us all about it, and our
<v Speaker 3>friend and her go over there to that area where
<v Speaker 3>it's at, and she'd already pointed out the position on
<v Speaker 3>the tree where the top of his head was. They
<v Speaker 3>get over there and they step off on that decline
<v Speaker 3>back there, and our friend, he's about six foot three,
<v Speaker 3>he had to reach up to get to where that
<v Speaker 3>the top of the mark she had shown me. So
<v Speaker 3>there's they're scouting all that right in there where it
<v Speaker 3>was at and everything. And I walk over with him
<v Speaker 3>and get over there. And the part she didn't tell
<v Speaker 3>you about that was once I got over there, they
<v Speaker 3>pointed out to me, there is fresh scat right there
<v Speaker 3>at the close to that tree. Huge and if it
<v Speaker 3>had been a little cooler, it was so fresh, you know,
<v Speaker 3>it would have had remnants of smoke rising off of
<v Speaker 3>that that type of freshness. And me and our friend
<v Speaker 3>we tracked this thing down to a ravine where it
<v Speaker 3>run down to a ravine. It was probably ravine was
<v Speaker 3>about fifteen or so feet deep, about fifteen or so
<v Speaker 3>yards across, and it didn't run down in that ravine.
<v Speaker 3>It jumped that you could see where it hit on
<v Speaker 3>the other side. And we come back to her and
<v Speaker 3>she she's still shaking a little bit and telling us
<v Speaker 3>about you know, everything about it, and that was that
<v Speaker 3>was pretty unique. She tried for several days to talk
<v Speaker 3>herself out of what she saw. Asked me several times
<v Speaker 3>do you think I seen that? Do you do you
<v Speaker 3>think it was a bear? And all this right here,
<v Speaker 3>And when she described everything, you know that, yeah, from
<v Speaker 3>bears stand upwards, their shoulders are on a forty five
<v Speaker 3>degree slant, and this her description, I think was his
<v Speaker 3>shoulders were squared off. And when she described as facial
<v Speaker 3>everything to me, I pretty well knew right then she
<v Speaker 3>had seen one. At that point, about two weeks later,
<v Speaker 3>on that same ridge, all the people that were going
<v Speaker 3>to be camping there, we'd all start to gathering up.
<v Speaker 3>I stand over by side my truck, and one of
<v Speaker 3>our friends hollered to me that something had moved up
<v Speaker 3>on the top of that ridge. Well, I started watching
<v Speaker 3>and I finally see it, and I picked him off,
<v Speaker 3>and he's standing between two trees looking back at our friend,
<v Speaker 3>and I told him hollered over to him. I said, yeah,
<v Speaker 3>I see, and he said, where is it? And I
<v Speaker 3>was trying to direct him his sight up there to it.
<v Speaker 3>And this thing was like she that had said, like
<v Speaker 3>a cinnamon color, reddish color. And with the foliage being
<v Speaker 3>dropped off all the trees, all the brown leaves and everything,
<v Speaker 3>this thing blended into the back drop better than a
<v Speaker 3>man in the gilly suit. He really did. And our
<v Speaker 3>friend eased over to my truck with men. I'm trying
<v Speaker 3>to tell him right where he's right, where he's standing,
<v Speaker 3>right between these two trees, and he's telling me that
<v Speaker 3>I can't see him. I can't see him. So I
<v Speaker 3>actually grabbed catch him by the back of the head,
<v Speaker 3>you know a little bit, and kind of position his
<v Speaker 3>head up because I can tell he's not looking in
<v Speaker 3>the right area. He says, God, I still don't see him.
<v Speaker 3>And then I made a mistake. I reached over his
<v Speaker 3>shoulder and pointed at him. As soon as I pointed
<v Speaker 3>at him, that thing dropped down and took off. He
<v Speaker 3>covered the distance of over forty yards going over the
<v Speaker 3>top of that ridge and just a flash. And I
<v Speaker 3>had a lot of people ask me after from the
<v Speaker 3>fact and everything, because I had sit there and watched
<v Speaker 3>this for over a minute half have see you didn't
<v Speaker 3>get a picture of them or anything like that. I
<v Speaker 3>had a wonderful song in my pocket with a good
<v Speaker 3>camera on and everything. That was the last thing that
<v Speaker 3>ever crossed my mind. It never never even dawned on
<v Speaker 3>me to take a picture at that point in time.
<v Speaker 3>And we went on from there. We scouted with this
<v Speaker 3>for this group and done a whole lot of more
<v Speaker 3>things with them and everything, and we started to see
<v Speaker 3>a little bit of the situation of the cost of
<v Speaker 3>going with that group was pretty high. And we would
<v Speaker 3>always have a lot of people, you know, tell us
<v Speaker 3>that they really wanted to go and do these kind
<v Speaker 3>of things, but they weren't willing you put out that
<v Speaker 3>kind of money to go do it. We sit back
<v Speaker 3>and we discussed it amongst ourselves, you know, of what
<v Speaker 3>it would really take to start doing something like that,
<v Speaker 3>and we after putting pen to paper real hard and everything,
<v Speaker 3>we come up with some figures and all. It looked
<v Speaker 3>good to us, and we shut it in some other people,
<v Speaker 3>and it looked good to a lot of different folks.
<v Speaker 3>So we decided to open up a outfit service, squat
<v Speaker 3>Fishing Outfits where we actually take people out on these
<v Speaker 3>expeditions and things. And we've done everything we could possibly
<v Speaker 3>do to make it as affordable as possible where anybody
<v Speaker 3>that wanted to go do it could actually go do it.
<v Speaker 3>And so we started that up. It took us about
<v Speaker 3>a year and a half or so to get everything set,
<v Speaker 3>you know, all the permits and interces and all that stuff.
<v Speaker 3>Finally get all that done. And once we got all
<v Speaker 3>that done, we started that up.
<v Speaker 2>Before that, before we got everything started up, we had
<v Speaker 2>moved from South Georgia to North Georgia, you know, and
<v Speaker 2>that's kind of when everything started. We were totally you know,
<v Speaker 2>you don't really realize it's legit, you know, you hear
<v Speaker 2>all the stories and stuff, but until you start you
<v Speaker 2>start experiencing it. Before we ever went on the first expedition,
<v Speaker 2>when we moved up here, we'd leased a little cabin
<v Speaker 2>down by the river. It's like an eight hundred square
<v Speaker 2>foot cabin and Scott had stayed in South Georgia sell
<v Speaker 2>our house down there. When I was up here by myself,
<v Speaker 2>and I mean there was nobody around because it was
<v Speaker 2>kind of off season, you know, and I'd get up
<v Speaker 2>and go to work and come back and sometimes I
<v Speaker 2>would hear like a whooping noise. And I had no
<v Speaker 2>idea then, because I've never been on an expedition. Yea,
<v Speaker 2>the most I'd ever seen was like something on television
<v Speaker 2>or whatever. And I was on the phone with him
<v Speaker 2>one evening and I started hearing it in the yard
<v Speaker 2>and I asked Scott, I said, what kind of bird
<v Speaker 2>makes a whooping noise? I had no clue. He had
<v Speaker 2>no clue until that first night, you know, when we
<v Speaker 2>went out and it was it was all around us,
<v Speaker 2>and I was just shocked. Floord wasn't the word, you know.
<v Speaker 2>It's like all of a sudden, all those questions, you know,
<v Speaker 2>obviously I knew what the whooping noise was. Then. Well,
<v Speaker 2>about a year later, we bought our own cabin and
<v Speaker 2>it's in the middle of nowhere to which is how
<v Speaker 2>we like it. But we moved in the cabin it
<v Speaker 2>had set in before a while. It was actually somebody's
<v Speaker 2>vacation home and they apparently they rarely used it. We
<v Speaker 2>moved in and we started having so much stuff happening
<v Speaker 2>at this cabin. You know, we used to lay in
<v Speaker 2>the bed and just hear the heavy footstops and I
<v Speaker 2>call it going down to the Pitt Cemetery Path, which
<v Speaker 2>is on the corner of our house. At the back
<v Speaker 2>of our house, we would have motion lights pushed up
<v Speaker 2>and you'd need a ladder. He would need to get
<v Speaker 2>a ladder to get on the to push them back
<v Speaker 2>up or push them down rather change the bulbs. Oh
<v Speaker 2>my goodness. Our kids would come spend the night, and
<v Speaker 2>they're grown and they thought we were just nuts to
<v Speaker 2>begin with, and they would have things happen. So to
<v Speaker 2>this day they won't go outside after dark. Our our
<v Speaker 2>daughter in law had got up and went got on
<v Speaker 2>the couch one night and she was she thought we
<v Speaker 2>were just all right, y'all are just you have no idea,
<v Speaker 2>y'are nuts. And she was letting on the couch and
<v Speaker 2>she says, I heard something walk up the front steps,
<v Speaker 2>walk on the porch and wiggle the doorknob. Now there's
<v Speaker 2>you can't see another house from where we live. There's
<v Speaker 2>five houses on this dirt road and we're like in
<v Speaker 2>a basin around mountains. She heard the doorknob wiggle, and
<v Speaker 2>she said, I got up and went back to the bedroom,
<v Speaker 2>which is on the other corner of the house. And
<v Speaker 2>she said, a couple minutes later, I could hear something
<v Speaker 2>tapping up the window. It's our dogs. I mean, you
<v Speaker 2>never know what's going to set them off. We have
<v Speaker 2>four little small dogs, and one of them. Something's happening
<v Speaker 2>to her because she every time she hears anything, she
<v Speaker 2>gets onto the couch. She goes down and right under
<v Speaker 2>the couch that's where she heads soon and you signed trouble.
<v Speaker 3>Before that, before whatever happened that dots and she was
<v Speaker 3>like fearless of anything, and she'd be the one to
<v Speaker 3>be standing at the door of anything or something or
<v Speaker 3>somebody was getting ready to come in. But not now.
<v Speaker 3>Whatever whatever's happened here has made her do a retreat.
<v Speaker 3>But when she was talking about the lights on the house,
<v Speaker 3>we used to get the side of the cabin slapped. Yeah,
<v Speaker 3>our fuel tank, our gas tank would get slapped. Our
<v Speaker 3>meter box. For some reason, they loved that meter box.
<v Speaker 3>Goodness gracious, they they had slapped the fire of that
<v Speaker 3>thing and our original lights on the house for floodlights
<v Speaker 3>on each corner of the house, but they were all
<v Speaker 3>on switches. One evening, I went to turn the floodlights on.
<v Speaker 3>I was getting ready to walk out and do something
<v Speaker 3>and through the switch lights didn't come on. A run
<v Speaker 3>checked the break her breakers are on. I come back
<v Speaker 3>and look make sure, I thought rights which lives wearing
<v Speaker 3>all us as well, get ready to replace those bulbs,
<v Speaker 3>and it dawned on me, No, it's kind of kind
<v Speaker 3>of funny that both light bulls blow at the same time. Well,
<v Speaker 3>this particular light on the corner of our house takes
<v Speaker 3>a twelve foot a frame ladder to get up there
<v Speaker 3>to them to change them. So I get me two
<v Speaker 3>new bulbs and I run up the ladder getting ready
<v Speaker 3>to change them, and grab a hold of the first
<v Speaker 3>one and it's loose, so I got to tighten it up.
<v Speaker 3>And it takes four quarter turns to tighten that light
<v Speaker 3>bulb up. And this house doesn't vibrate. I mean, it's
<v Speaker 3>on a very good foundation. There's no amount of rattling
<v Speaker 3>this house could possibly do to cause that. And I
<v Speaker 3>grabbed the other light and it was exactly the same
<v Speaker 3>four quarter turns tighten that light bulb up. I thought
<v Speaker 3>about it for a second. I come back down the
<v Speaker 3>ladder and went turned the light switch on. Lights came
<v Speaker 3>on then right then I stopt what I was doing,
<v Speaker 3>went on up to the store and got two doublehead
<v Speaker 3>flood lights with motion detectors on, which I doesn't need
<v Speaker 3>to do that anyway, because she was a hospice nurse
<v Speaker 3>and sometimes that she comes in later in the evenings,
<v Speaker 3>and I wanted a light peble to turn on whenever
<v Speaker 3>she pulled up in the driveway. Anyway, So I get
<v Speaker 3>these lights and I get them off set rigged up
<v Speaker 3>and everything. And the whole time that night after I
<v Speaker 3>put them up, we're laying in the bed, I'm watching
<v Speaker 3>I can got my curtains cracked a little bit so
<v Speaker 3>I can see if that light comes on. And nothing
<v Speaker 3>happened the first night. The second night, the lights went
<v Speaker 3>to coming on, they come on, they'd go off in
<v Speaker 3>just a little while, they come back on, and I'm
<v Speaker 3>kind of laying here giggling to myself, like, yeah, I
<v Speaker 3>caught y'all with this one. A little while goes by
<v Speaker 3>and she'a comes home late one evening and she tells me,
<v Speaker 3>she said, hey, that front light didn't come on. I
<v Speaker 3>pulled down on the car port. I said, well, darn,
<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't made sure the switch were on. Everything was,
<v Speaker 3>And I walked down there and looked at it. The
<v Speaker 3>head that takes motion to that light was pushed all
<v Speaker 3>the way up to the roof. And I get my
<v Speaker 3>ladder out and I reach up there and get a
<v Speaker 3>hold of this head and try to pull it back down.
<v Speaker 3>And I can't pull it back down. This thing has
<v Speaker 3>teeth in it where it locks itself in place. And
<v Speaker 3>I was pulling on pretty hard, and I was scared
<v Speaker 3>I'd break it. I had to take the light apart
<v Speaker 3>to reset the head where it was supposed to be.
<v Speaker 3>And that's actually happened a couple of times where that
<v Speaker 3>head's gotten pushed all the way up.
<v Speaker 2>What about that the ways across the road there, we're sitting.
<v Speaker 3>At here, and she was reminding me of something and
<v Speaker 3>it was just me and here by ourselves. And we
<v Speaker 3>run audio at night, especially after we started our outfit
<v Speaker 3>of business and everything. We run audio when we can.
<v Speaker 3>We're in the woods a lot, three to four days
<v Speaker 3>a week east if not more, and we're sitting down
<v Speaker 3>at our firepit one evening. We've got our audio records running.
<v Speaker 3>We're just sitting down there, you know, relaxing and everything,
<v Speaker 3>and the craziest howl started about fifty yards in behind us,
<v Speaker 3>just right across the two path road from our house.
<v Speaker 3>And I look at Sheila and she looks at me,
<v Speaker 3>and we're both in disbelief. We know what it is,
<v Speaker 3>and the coyotes chime in with him. I told her,
<v Speaker 3>I said, I'm gonna ease up here to the house
<v Speaker 3>to get get fire arm because this is just so close.
<v Speaker 3>And she stays it right there by the fire And
<v Speaker 3>that happened with us three times that evening. It was
<v Speaker 3>moving down the ridge and it'd get to a certain
<v Speaker 3>point it would howl up again. And bear in mind,
<v Speaker 3>all this is not fifty yards from us. And that
<v Speaker 3>was a pretty unique happening here in the house. We've
<v Speaker 3>had a whole lot of both things go on. We
<v Speaker 3>find tracks down by our creek pretty regular. That's not uncommon.
<v Speaker 3>And you know, when you live somewhere and you mow
<v Speaker 3>your yard and you weed eat in your yard and everything,
<v Speaker 3>you pretty well know what's in your yard as far
<v Speaker 3>as rocks and things like that that you can possibly hit. Well,
<v Speaker 3>I had we did around the house I just a
<v Speaker 3>few days before, and me and her were getting ready
<v Speaker 3>to walk down the path to the creek and I
<v Speaker 3>look and there's two baseball sized quartz rocks sitting right
<v Speaker 3>right there. They weren't there before. And I'm looking at
<v Speaker 3>those rocks and she had pointed them out too, and
<v Speaker 3>we're looking back and forth at and I said, I
<v Speaker 3>just wonder, and thus dark that evening, we come back
<v Speaker 3>and checked. We stepped on down the path and we
<v Speaker 3>started walking back up the path. As soon as we
<v Speaker 3>get to these rocks, the lights come on. So I'm
<v Speaker 3>looking around. I'm thinking, I said, yemp, you know, something
<v Speaker 3>has marked this or something. So I moved the light,
<v Speaker 3>moved the rocks about three foot closer to the house.
<v Speaker 3>We go on about our business and I'm watching that
<v Speaker 3>night for it and everything, and sure enough that night
<v Speaker 3>those lights popped on and I'm I'm you know, it
<v Speaker 3>becomes like a game to playing with them, and uh,
<v Speaker 3>because we just have so much to activity and everything
<v Speaker 3>goes on here in it's holler. But then we get
<v Speaker 3>on into the point where, you know, we actually have
<v Speaker 3>our first expedition, and which was a very very good,
<v Speaker 3>successful expedition. We had a whole lot of things go
<v Speaker 3>on there and had uh people get to you know,
<v Speaker 3>have some really really good interactions and things, and and
<v Speaker 3>I think we're in our what fourth season, now, this
<v Speaker 3>is our fourth year. Yeah, this is this is our
<v Speaker 3>fourth season of what we do, taking people out and everything.
<v Speaker 3>And we also guide fly fishing trips and the uh
<v Speaker 3>one of them.
<v Speaker 2>About the first night, the first the very first night
<v Speaker 2>of our very first expedition. And keep in mind, we
<v Speaker 2>were so nervous, you know, doing this because we just
<v Speaker 2>kind of cartwheeled through it just hoping. We wanted there
<v Speaker 2>to be activity and we wanted to people to be
<v Speaker 2>able to hear or see something. But we went up
<v Speaker 2>that night and we had two groups. The first group
<v Speaker 2>was my group and the second group was Scott's group.
<v Speaker 2>He went on down the road. So I stayed at
<v Speaker 2>one spot, you know, and you're in the middle of
<v Speaker 2>I promise you of nowhere. And I had one guy
<v Speaker 2>in the group with me. The rest were women, and
<v Speaker 2>we had to build a fire and we were sitting
<v Speaker 2>there and I mean, it's so dark you can't see
<v Speaker 2>your hand in from your face. Rocks started flying through
<v Speaker 2>the woods and it was that one direction. It was
<v Speaker 2>at him, you know, and he's like looking at me,
<v Speaker 2>He's like, do you see that? And I said, yeah,
<v Speaker 2>did you notice? It's all they're being thrown at you.
<v Speaker 2>You know, they targeted the only medal in the group,
<v Speaker 2>I'm assuming because they didn't want him there. And that
<v Speaker 2>night was this absolute crazy. He actually saw an orb
<v Speaker 2>and heard a growling sound and others heard the growling
<v Speaker 2>sound as well. So that was that was an awesome night.
<v Speaker 2>The second night we went out, we all went to
<v Speaker 2>the same place. Now from there we had a fire,
<v Speaker 2>so there were you know, people that don't want to
<v Speaker 2>hike or whatever, are not capable of it. They sit
<v Speaker 2>right there by the fire, and I stayed with them
<v Speaker 2>and Scott had took a small group out hoking. We
<v Speaker 2>had so much activity going on. We were having little
<v Speaker 2>rocks thrown at us. To the plan, I know, I'm
<v Speaker 2>gonna get, you know, some backlash for this. I had
<v Speaker 2>a little slingshot and I would take these little rocks
<v Speaker 2>and when they would throw a rock towards us, I
<v Speaker 2>would shoot a rock like, you know, not the direction
<v Speaker 2>the rock come from the opposite direction, So I would
<v Speaker 2>shoot one, and then a couple of minutes later, you
<v Speaker 2>hear the here come another rock, a little rock through
<v Speaker 2>the woods. And we done this, played this game for
<v Speaker 2>I know, fifteen or twenty minutes. Now everybody seen this,
<v Speaker 2>you know, seeing it happening, and they were just like
<v Speaker 2>in disbelief. And I promise you there was no human
<v Speaker 2>out there doing this where we were. So later on,
<v Speaker 2>like I said, they went hiking and me and like
<v Speaker 2>four or five girls set around the fire and the
<v Speaker 2>cars were close up. So when the hiking group gets back,
<v Speaker 2>I asked God, I said, well, you walk around my
<v Speaker 2>jeep with me because I had to obviously I had
<v Speaker 2>to go to the little girl's room and I had
<v Speaker 2>a headlamp on. So when I turned the corner there
<v Speaker 2>on the what do you call that the wheel fender
<v Speaker 2>flare of my jeep was this, it's probably about fifth
<v Speaker 2>sides of a river rock sitting there on my fender wheel.
<v Speaker 2>It had not been thrown because you would have seen
<v Speaker 2>a dent. It was a red and color, you know,
<v Speaker 2>it had been placed there. And I was, I can't
<v Speaker 2>tell you how excited I was. And I took that
<v Speaker 2>as you know, they gifted me for playing this little
<v Speaker 2>game with them. That rock is right now, I was
<v Speaker 2>in my curio cabin and I'll tell Scott, you know,
<v Speaker 2>and then I said, well, I guess Bigfoot some gage
<v Speaker 2>you gave me a rock, but I can. I mean,
<v Speaker 2>that was the first expedition we had. It was it
<v Speaker 2>was just awesome, and I mean their own It's just
<v Speaker 2>it's gotten crazier.
<v Speaker 3>It really has. We've taken out several expeditions, you know,
<v Speaker 3>and had a lot of people get their opportunities to
<v Speaker 3>have interactions, have actual sightings, both daylight and night sidings.
<v Speaker 3>Night sidings being through thermal imaging. We got away from
<v Speaker 3>night vision a little bit just because of the use
<v Speaker 3>of their our technique. We trying thanks for a couple
<v Speaker 3>of the most highlighted. Oh yes, myself, Sheila and two
<v Speaker 3>of our other friends. We were in an area and
<v Speaker 3>we were just just doing some scar out and looking
<v Speaker 3>around and everything. We were walking up service road heading
<v Speaker 3>up to the area where we're going to and it
<v Speaker 3>sounded like everything in the world broke loose on top
<v Speaker 3>of a ridge to the right of us, and all
<v Speaker 3>of our headlamps, you know, slapping around there, and we're
<v Speaker 3>looking up that ridge and something is coming down the
<v Speaker 3>ridge at us, and up here we have this Mountain Laurel,
<v Speaker 3>and it grows pretty thick, and this stuff is pretty tough.
<v Speaker 3>You could actually physically see the Mountain Laurel parting. Whatever
<v Speaker 3>it was was coming off that ridge at us. It
<v Speaker 3>gets about ten yards away from us and just comes
<v Speaker 3>to a stop. We weren't sure if it jumped over
<v Speaker 3>top of us, just slammed on brakes and hit a
<v Speaker 3>trail right there and went down a trail or what.
<v Speaker 3>But we had all breaks up like we were about
<v Speaker 3>to be run completely over. I mean, it was. That
<v Speaker 3>was one pretty nerve wracking event right there, and all
<v Speaker 3>the people that were with the other people that were
<v Speaker 3>with us says, you know, we need we need to
<v Speaker 3>go on up here where we're going to go. And
<v Speaker 3>the whole time I'm thinking myself, you know, we got
<v Speaker 3>to walk back through the same area coming back. But
<v Speaker 3>we went on to what we were doing and had
<v Speaker 3>a fairly uneventful night and the rest of the night,
<v Speaker 3>and we on our expeditions, we've, like I said, we've
<v Speaker 3>had a lot of things go on. And we had
<v Speaker 3>one evening where I had a group up on top
<v Speaker 3>of the mountain. She's group was down by the fire pit,
<v Speaker 3>and we on our way up, we would walk through
<v Speaker 3>this smell, and I mean it was futured, ungodly. You
<v Speaker 3>walk into it as like walking into a wall and
<v Speaker 3>walk a few yards and you like completely walking out
<v Speaker 3>of it and sorted just not to be there. We
<v Speaker 3>crossed this smell like four different times going up this mountain,
<v Speaker 3>and I started noting before we smell the smells on
<v Speaker 3>the way up. We get to the top of the
<v Speaker 3>mountain and we're all set up and everything, and one
<v Speaker 3>of the gentlemen that had went with us, he was
<v Speaker 3>a bad skeptic, and he had a thermal vision with him,
<v Speaker 3>and all of a sudden, I hear him gasp, you
<v Speaker 3>know that that famous air suck gasp. And usually when
<v Speaker 3>that happened, somebody has seen something. He calls for me
<v Speaker 3>and he says, I'm seeing something here, and I said, well,
<v Speaker 3>explain to me what you're seeing, because I had already
<v Speaker 3>looked at it through a thermal also and knew what
<v Speaker 3>he was saying. So he goes to explain to me.
<v Speaker 3>He says, well, there's something standing behind this tree and
<v Speaker 3>it's got his hand or paws wrapped around the tree here,
<v Speaker 3>and he's looking out from one side. He said, this
<v Speaker 3>thing shoulders are on both sides of the tree. I said,
<v Speaker 3>her shoulder flattered upright. He said they're squared off. I said,
<v Speaker 3>we just answered one of your own questions. He said,
<v Speaker 3>what's that. Well, when a bear stands up, his shoulders
<v Speaker 3>on him about a forty five degree angle. So he's
<v Speaker 3>looking at that, and I told him. Then I said,
<v Speaker 3>look to the left of that just a little bit,
<v Speaker 3>and down there's another one right there. So he's actually
<v Speaker 3>looking at two. One picking over an old at uson
<v Speaker 3>one behind a tree right there. The uh I had
<v Speaker 3>another gentleman. He's standing back just back of ways on
<v Speaker 3>the trail, probably fifteen yards away from me. He's looking around.
<v Speaker 3>He has seen these things also, but he's also looking
<v Speaker 3>all around the rest of the perimeter with us. And
<v Speaker 3>I hear a pop. And when I hear this pop,
<v Speaker 3>I physically thought he was a snake bit. And as
<v Speaker 3>soon as the pop happened, he stumbled around a little
<v Speaker 3>bit and took off the run. Catch him a little
<v Speaker 3>bit and he's rubbing on his leg and I said,
<v Speaker 3>what is it? What is it? He said, something hit
<v Speaker 3>me on the leg, and we pulled his breech's legs up.
<v Speaker 3>We look and I'm actually looking for a snake wound.
<v Speaker 3>There's nothing there. Go back over to the area where
<v Speaker 3>he was standing at. There's no rocks there, there's no
<v Speaker 3>sticks that could flip up and hit him. But there
<v Speaker 3>was a game trail there. Now the day before that,
<v Speaker 3>when I had looked this area over before carrying anyone
<v Speaker 3>up there, it was a standard game trail about a
<v Speaker 3>foot and a half wide, the foliage on each side
<v Speaker 3>of it about two and a half three foot tall.
<v Speaker 3>We get over there by that game trail where he
<v Speaker 3>was standing at. All the folios for about a foot
<v Speaker 3>and a half on each side of the trail had
<v Speaker 3>been crushed down to the ground, just as far off
<v Speaker 3>that ridge as you want to look. At that point,
<v Speaker 3>I decided, well, we're going to ease everybody off this,
<v Speaker 3>off this mountaintop right here and get on back. We
<v Speaker 3>start coming back through their smells again. And when we
<v Speaker 3>start coming back through the smells again, the smells have
<v Speaker 3>moved and this sit and a smell that just you know,
<v Speaker 3>just would like linger and float along. It was like
<v Speaker 3>it's it's really hard to describe as it's like walking
<v Speaker 3>into a line of it, like you walked straight into it,
<v Speaker 3>walked just a few feet and you walk out of it.
<v Speaker 3>When we get to the back to our group that's
<v Speaker 3>down there at the fire, we get telling about the things,
<v Speaker 3>you know, that we have went on, and I slept
<v Speaker 3>really really good that night because I wound up going
<v Speaker 3>to the top of that mountain three more times for
<v Speaker 3>other people to get to smell they smells. And when
<v Speaker 3>we get back to our main base camp, these things
<v Speaker 3>followed us back and they're sitting on those sides of
<v Speaker 3>the creek just whooping at us all night long. And uh,
<v Speaker 3>everybody had a you know, a big, big happening over
<v Speaker 3>all that round there, and everybody was enjoying ourselves by
<v Speaker 3>the interactions and all what we had.
<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to think there was. There was this one
<v Speaker 2>time Scott and I went in the woods. It was
<v Speaker 2>just here and I during the day and we're gonna
<v Speaker 2>go out there. You scout around, because what we do,
<v Speaker 2>we're constantly in the woods looking for places, you know,
<v Speaker 2>with with more activity, because you we want people on
<v Speaker 2>the expeditions to be able to hear something, and it
<v Speaker 2>doesn't always happen, you know, but we do our best,
<v Speaker 2>you know, to try to put them in an active area.
<v Speaker 2>But Scott down were out there and we were we
<v Speaker 2>were in the woods pretty good, and I kept hearing
<v Speaker 2>something off to a right. It sounded like somebody was
<v Speaker 2>like hammering in a tense state because it was just
<v Speaker 2>on rhythm like that that makes any sense. And I
<v Speaker 2>asked him, I said, you do you hear that? Well?
<v Speaker 2>He was hearing something off to his left, and so
<v Speaker 2>I made him stop. And we were listening, and it
<v Speaker 2>was almost like we were in front of like a
<v Speaker 2>gorilla cage at the zoo. I mean, it was going
<v Speaker 2>building itself up.
<v Speaker 3>You know.
<v Speaker 2>And he got louder, and it done about four or
<v Speaker 2>five times, and he heard it the last time. So
<v Speaker 2>of course we took off the go down there and
<v Speaker 2>try to find it. Well, we didn't find anything. Then
<v Speaker 2>we did not, for some reason, have audio with us.
<v Speaker 2>But we went back a couple of days. Then we
<v Speaker 2>put all go out. Okay, I'm sorry, my bad. We
<v Speaker 2>had audio. Then we put audio out and we went
<v Speaker 2>back a couple just about three days later. It was me, Scott,
<v Speaker 2>my best friend, and her husband who's part of the crew.
<v Speaker 2>So him and I wanna say, Thomas went out in
<v Speaker 2>the woods and we were in the woods. But they
<v Speaker 2>went deeper into the woods to retrieve the audio. And
<v Speaker 2>Michelle and I sit up there in the woods, but
<v Speaker 2>around a little fire pit we had made, and it
<v Speaker 2>was it was dusk. It was getting dark pretty quick,
<v Speaker 2>and like I said, they were gone, and we were
<v Speaker 2>sitting there talking and I kept hearing something and I'd
<v Speaker 2>ask her, do you hear that? Well, Michelle can't hear.
<v Speaker 2>She's she's got problems in one of her ears. So
<v Speaker 2>I had to make her be still because it was
<v Speaker 2>coming towards us. And I've never heard anything like this.
<v Speaker 2>The only thing I can liken it too, was if
<v Speaker 2>you've ever been around Florida or whatever and you've heard
<v Speaker 2>like an alligator crowl, like deep guttural growl. And it
<v Speaker 2>was like every maybe I don't know, like every thirty
<v Speaker 2>to forty six or something like that. But I had
<v Speaker 2>audio running, Thank goodness, I had audio running. So she
<v Speaker 2>sat down and she's listening and she goes, oh my god,
<v Speaker 2>I hear it. Well, like I say, I do carry
<v Speaker 2>in the woods primarily for hogs. And it's just she
<v Speaker 2>and I, so obviously, and I'm gonna be safe for
<v Speaker 2>me to take my gun out of the holster and
<v Speaker 2>have it ready. I'm scared. There's a reason, you know
<v Speaker 2>what I mean, because of that, I am not a
<v Speaker 2>dependent person on that. It was so intense. She had
<v Speaker 2>got up and put the keys in the truck because
<v Speaker 2>she says, we have to get out of here. I
<v Speaker 2>just don't want to drop the keys on the way
<v Speaker 2>to the truck. I said, well, you just run up
<v Speaker 2>and get in the truck. I'll jump in the back
<v Speaker 2>of I have to, you know, like we were going to.
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what would have happened, literally if somebody
<v Speaker 2>had come up there on us. But I got fourteen
<v Speaker 2>growls on audio.
<v Speaker 3>It coming.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah at the end, there's a and it's all recorded,
<v Speaker 2>and I had to Thank goodness, we usually don't have
<v Speaker 2>signal in the woods, but where we were, I had
<v Speaker 2>Cole Scott and I'm surprised it went through. And I
<v Speaker 2>asked him, I said, are y'all hearing anything? And didn't
<v Speaker 2>you tell me y'all had heard of whoop or something
<v Speaker 2>heard of wood? But they, of course they didn't hear
<v Speaker 2>the ground. Thank goodness, they come back up there to
<v Speaker 2>where we were, because I'd never heard that before. You know,
<v Speaker 2>I've heard it walking around the tent and you let
<v Speaker 2>me that's the most distinct sound to me, that's that's
<v Speaker 2>my most favorite part. And when you're in a tent
<v Speaker 2>and you're in a dead sleep and all of a
<v Speaker 2>sudden you wake up here in like these Jurassic Park footsteps,
<v Speaker 2>it will your eyes will just fly open and you
<v Speaker 2>instantly what it is and you could hear it, and
<v Speaker 2>I'm thinking, you know, most of the time it's coming
<v Speaker 2>into where our kitchen area is. But talking about footsteps,
<v Speaker 2>I can't tell you how many times we found tracks.
<v Speaker 2>And one in particular, I was traveling nursing and I
<v Speaker 2>was in my home, I mean out there by myself
<v Speaker 2>in the snow. I had seen a tree structure and
<v Speaker 2>I went back a couple of days later to find
<v Speaker 2>this tree structure. It was awesome, And I had a
<v Speaker 2>jeep at the time, and I was pulling through there
<v Speaker 2>and I thought I could pull through the snow drift.
<v Speaker 2>Well I was wrong. So I was just raising sand
<v Speaker 2>in my jeep trying to get out of the snow
<v Speaker 2>drift with nobody around. And I did go through it,
<v Speaker 2>and I pulled back to where I seen I had
<v Speaker 2>seen the tree structure and fresh snow had fallen fallen,
<v Speaker 2>and I'm walking towards the tree structure and in the
<v Speaker 2>snow are these huge foot tracks. You know, in the
<v Speaker 2>snow you couldn't see toe prints or anything, but you
<v Speaker 2>could tell it was something walking. And it had like
<v Speaker 2>a four and a half inch stride, and the tracked
<v Speaker 2>for about eighteen inches long. And there's foot strides. I
<v Speaker 2>don't know what I'm saying, but there was no other
<v Speaker 2>animal prints. Like I said, it was fresh snow. There
<v Speaker 2>was no you know, that was it and it was
<v Speaker 2>it went right by the tree structure, and of course
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna follow it, and I did. I follow the
<v Speaker 2>tracks pretty good ways on in the woods, and those
<v Speaker 2>tracks just stopped. They just disappeared. And you know, I
<v Speaker 2>look up, thinking, well, in my training, you know, you
<v Speaker 2>look up there was nothing there. It was just dead, silid.
<v Speaker 2>And I can't tell you how many times we've seen
<v Speaker 2>that in would sing tracks and then all of a
<v Speaker 2>sudden they disappear. And that's my biggest question, where do
<v Speaker 2>the tracks go? Because we first started this kind of
<v Speaker 2>we're you know, you would hear all the stories and
<v Speaker 2>of the different cryptis, and then you know, we were
<v Speaker 2>talking about Okay, if we're gonna do this, we're just
<v Speaker 2>gonna stick to big Foot. I don't want to I
<v Speaker 2>don't hear any of the other stuff. I don't want
<v Speaker 2>to get in any other stuff. But I promise you
<v Speaker 2>that's not going to happen if you do this. There's
<v Speaker 2>so many branches just going to every which direction. I mean,
<v Speaker 2>stuff happens. You cannot explain.
<v Speaker 3>I just people.
<v Speaker 2>The only thing I can tell people are they're thinking
<v Speaker 2>you're crazy or whatever. Are the closed minded people think
<v Speaker 2>that we are the end all be y' all, They're
<v Speaker 2>going to be in for a rude of waiting because
<v Speaker 2>there's just so much more out there that, you know,
<v Speaker 2>I can't even begin to explain. I'll never have all
<v Speaker 2>the answers to all the questions.
<v Speaker 3>That I have about the time when you think you
<v Speaker 3>figured one thing out, are you are you think you're
<v Speaker 3>getting close to figuring it out? That one thing will
<v Speaker 3>cause you to have about five more different questions. Really
<v Speaker 3>and truly, but one of our other you know, super
<v Speaker 3>highlighted times, was one of our very good friends. They
<v Speaker 3>go with us on these expeditions ever so often. In
<v Speaker 3>this particular one, they had their sons with them. And
<v Speaker 3>he he was on the on my hiking group with us. Well,
<v Speaker 3>we had something get thrown at us from the right
<v Speaker 3>hand side. Naturally, everybody looks, you know, to the right
<v Speaker 3>hands and side where something gets thrown from thrown from
<v Speaker 3>one of my team members. When something happens, it's his
<v Speaker 3>job to scoured behind us, you know, off to all
<v Speaker 3>sides and everything. And he picks one of these critters off,
<v Speaker 3>and I call him critters, you know, for anybody who's
<v Speaker 3>curious about when I say critters. He picks one of
<v Speaker 3>these critters off, and he's behind a rock and he's
<v Speaker 3>looking up and picking over the rock at us, you know,
<v Speaker 3>and he's sitting there doing that, watching us. So we
<v Speaker 3>focus a lot of attention on him. And there's four
<v Speaker 3>different thermals going at this time, all watching this one critter,
<v Speaker 3>and you know, he's showing us his upper his shoulders
<v Speaker 3>is upper torso and everything. He's lifting up and bobbing
<v Speaker 3>and going back and forth and doing a lot of
<v Speaker 3>the typical things. And when something like this happens, a
<v Speaker 3>lot of times I'll walk out into the area where
<v Speaker 3>one of these things are at and they'll generally they'll
<v Speaker 3>they'll stand up and run off for make their way
<v Speaker 3>out of there pretty quick. And I only do that
<v Speaker 3>so that other folks, you know, may get the opportunity
<v Speaker 3>to see them better, at least see them walk off.
<v Speaker 3>And I was getting ready to do that, and my
<v Speaker 3>friend's son, he asked me if he could go with me.
<v Speaker 3>Me and him have a short conversation on some news
<v Speaker 3>and donts, and I reluctantly did let him go with me.
<v Speaker 3>So we get out here and by this rock. And
<v Speaker 3>when I get to the rock and I turn my
<v Speaker 3>head land lamp around behind the rock, it's not there.
<v Speaker 3>I'm immediately thinking to myself, well, it just he eased
<v Speaker 3>on out of here and they weren't able to see it,
<v Speaker 3>you know, and let me know that it moved. So
<v Speaker 3>I get a big light, big white light out in
<v Speaker 3>my pocket and shine down in the direction I thought
<v Speaker 3>it would have went, and I'm scouring the area and
<v Speaker 3>I'm coming around. Well, as I come around with my light,
<v Speaker 3>this thing has moved fifteen yards away from the rock.
<v Speaker 3>He has it's back towards us, squad down, and he's
<v Speaker 3>looking at us, and I put that light right in
<v Speaker 3>his face. As soon as I put the light right
<v Speaker 3>in his face, it picks his arm up and kind
<v Speaker 3>of turns his head and turns his shoulders away from us.
<v Speaker 3>At that point, I look at my friend's son, I said,
<v Speaker 3>just back up. You know. See, he's the man of
<v Speaker 3>the group. Whatever it is he has, he's not willing
<v Speaker 3>to leave, and we were wear in a bad situation.
<v Speaker 3>That's probably one of the most nervous times I've ever
<v Speaker 3>been doing this thing for the simple reason that it
<v Speaker 3>didn't leave out. He was holding his ground. Whatever he had,
<v Speaker 3>he wasn't willing to leave. And the fact that I
<v Speaker 3>had one of my very good friend's son with me,
<v Speaker 3>you know that that was a that was probably my
<v Speaker 3>nervousness I've ever been about that, because that was a
<v Speaker 3>situation that could have went terribly wrong. Well, we get
<v Speaker 3>back to the group, and to this day, that young man,
<v Speaker 3>if you get around him, he will tell you that.
<v Speaker 2>Story one of a time that really stands out. This
<v Speaker 2>We were not on an expedition. It was just a
<v Speaker 2>friend wanted to go camping for his birthday. That's all
<v Speaker 2>he wanted. So we went to a spot not too
<v Speaker 2>far from where we take people sometimes, but there was
<v Speaker 2>one there was totally six save people up there something
<v Speaker 2>like that, and we had heard some stuff behind the camper.
<v Speaker 2>We had like two campers and a pop up there
<v Speaker 2>and a rock had been placed on this tree stuff,
<v Speaker 2>and I said, well, you need to gift one back
<v Speaker 2>and asked if they had any peanut butter. We got
<v Speaker 2>the peanut butter and put back on there on the stuff,
<v Speaker 2>you know, and the lid was on it. And before
<v Speaker 2>we went to bed that night, I said something. I said, well,
<v Speaker 2>somebody needs to go check the peanut butter. Well, I
<v Speaker 2>think it was you. Scott goes back there is to
<v Speaker 2>check to check it, and the peanut butter jar is gone.
<v Speaker 2>There was no lid, there's nothing, it was gone. You know.
<v Speaker 2>We just thought that was whatever it was, you know,
<v Speaker 2>we was definitely gonna look for it. The next morning.
<v Speaker 2>We all go to bed and it's about two thirty
<v Speaker 2>that morning and Scott said, now we had a little
<v Speaker 2>it's a fifteen foot I mean you had to go
<v Speaker 2>outside and change mind. It was so small. But he
<v Speaker 2>it was two thirty and he coughed, and Scott's a
<v Speaker 2>big guy, so when he coughed, it was like when
<v Speaker 2>the loud loud coughs, you know, And when he did
<v Speaker 2>that something behind the camper pushed this little camper. I
<v Speaker 2>mean I almost pushed it off the blocks. And I
<v Speaker 2>tell you, you want to wake up real quick, that's
<v Speaker 2>a good way to do it right there. I looked
<v Speaker 2>at him, I said, are you going to go outside?
<v Speaker 2>He said, hell, no, I ain't going out there. I
<v Speaker 2>know what's out there. The next day, you know, you
<v Speaker 2>could see where you could see the hand prints, you know,
<v Speaker 2>like it's knuckles where whatever it was, it looked like
<v Speaker 2>there's two had crawled up there behind our camper. And
<v Speaker 2>I guess when Scott coughed like that, you know, it
<v Speaker 2>either scared them or whatever. And our friends Michelle and
<v Speaker 2>Thomas Thomas were in the pop up and they could
<v Speaker 2>hear it was walking around their pap up and they
<v Speaker 2>could hear and they could hear the whooping. And I
<v Speaker 2>never forget Thomas told Michelle, he says, un zipped the window.
<v Speaker 2>Unzipped the window. She said, I'm not unzipping the window.
<v Speaker 2>You know. Everybody was freaked out. But that that was
<v Speaker 2>just an awesome weekend and we went we was shipped
<v Speaker 2>there just a camp.
<v Speaker 3>Well, they had been whooping in behind their vehicles before that.
<v Speaker 3>Before our camp got pushed also, so we kind of
<v Speaker 3>already knew, you know that they were right there around us.
<v Speaker 3>But you know, we've had we've had a really good
<v Speaker 3>time with this and uh had a lot of folks
<v Speaker 3>you go with us and things that, like I said,
<v Speaker 3>you know, have had had the opportunity to have interactions
<v Speaker 3>and see them. One young man that has come all
<v Speaker 3>the way from Massachusetts down here in North Georgia last year,
<v Speaker 3>he had a daylight sighting of one just walking off
<v Speaker 3>the bridge, and uh, he was super stoked and excited
<v Speaker 3>about that, especially after driving all that way, you know,
<v Speaker 3>to one of these things.
<v Speaker 2>And then the documentary we were going on our way too.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and we we filmed a few different documentaries you know,
<v Speaker 3>doing this, and uh, one particular one, we had the
<v Speaker 3>film crews here and we're getting everything done and of
<v Speaker 3>all things, now you think you're filming something, so camera
<v Speaker 3>is probably gonna be rolling all the time, and that
<v Speaker 3>doesn't always happen. And camp on the way we were
<v Speaker 3>leaving that base camp area and heading to work to
<v Speaker 3>the area where we're going at it and nothing going on,
<v Speaker 3>and all of a sudden, the two guys doing film work,
<v Speaker 3>they were riding with me. They hollered at and I'm
<v Speaker 3>looking at them talking. We're talking back and forth. They
<v Speaker 3>hollered at what is that? And we had one across
<v Speaker 3>the road right in front of my jeep and we
<v Speaker 3>slam on the brakes. You know, everybody bails out of vehicles.
<v Speaker 3>We're looking looking at everything. And she finds up the
<v Speaker 3>track where right where he went up he wound up
<v Speaker 3>having a seventeen and a half inch track.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, went right.
<v Speaker 3>So the ridge, Yeah, that ridge he went up was
<v Speaker 3>probably only about a forty five degree angle. He went
<v Speaker 3>up a thing like it wasn't nothing to do it.
<v Speaker 3>But you know, we, like I said, we've had a
<v Speaker 3>lot of fun with it, made a lot of good friends,
<v Speaker 3>lifelong typ friends.
<v Speaker 2>And most of the people that ever went with us,
<v Speaker 2>they come back. I mean they come back like every year,
<v Speaker 2>and you know that now they're like family. We know
<v Speaker 2>these people. And I mean we got out there, we
<v Speaker 2>set up this you know, big bass camp and oh
<v Speaker 2>my gosh, shut the food. We we eat good, you know,
<v Speaker 2>we tell stories and you know, because you're with light
<v Speaker 2>minded people and then we go out and hunt, you know, and.
<v Speaker 3>It's it's great.
<v Speaker 2>We have more fine than anybody.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, if anybody goes one of our expeditions and leaves hungry,
<v Speaker 3>it's your own fault. Or if you lose weight, it's
<v Speaker 3>definitely your fault.
<v Speaker 2>And we you know, we've had one of our crew
<v Speaker 2>members as a young girl, she's twenty six, twenty seven,
<v Speaker 2>I think she was twenty six at the time, she
<v Speaker 2>had a siding and she was you know, after she
<v Speaker 2>had that sighting, she got to see one literally run,
<v Speaker 2>you know, and there's there's no man out there that
<v Speaker 2>can run what she like the way she's seen it
<v Speaker 2>through firm And she was so worried that night she says,
<v Speaker 2>what if it follows me back to base camp.
<v Speaker 3>Well guess what it did. She got the opportunity to
<v Speaker 3>hear something rubbing on her tent that night and things
<v Speaker 3>and one thing we do with all of our participants, Yeah,
<v Speaker 3>we tell everyone. You know, most people have vehicles that
<v Speaker 3>have key fobbs, you know, they have panicle arms on them.
<v Speaker 3>We tell everybody keep that key close and you know,
<v Speaker 3>if something gets she spooked up or whatever, no matter
<v Speaker 3>what it is, hit that panic alarm, we will all
<v Speaker 3>come out, muster up here and see what's going on. Well,
<v Speaker 3>that particular night, this young lady she told us, she said,
<v Speaker 3>I slept with my key fob on my chest the
<v Speaker 3>whole night. And she says, and she says, when I
<v Speaker 3>started hearing the grills and everything open and just slam,
<v Speaker 3>that was another key.
<v Speaker 2>Factor for and I lifted prints off of your tree.
<v Speaker 2>There was you could see dusty fringerprints, you know, Almostcott's
<v Speaker 2>truck because this trut's dark gray, and you could see
<v Speaker 2>where whatever it was with drew it's hand and you
<v Speaker 2>could see like the fur or whatever hair tracing down
<v Speaker 2>the dust on the truck as well. And there was
<v Speaker 2>a huge footprint right beside his truck.
<v Speaker 3>And fingerprints were about twice with.
<v Speaker 2>And they always looked greasy. I've had them all over
<v Speaker 2>my jeep before. Just Scott and I were camping one night,
<v Speaker 2>and I'm telling you pictures. We get some awesome pictures sometimes,
<v Speaker 2>but we had been up in this area where like
<v Speaker 2>you ever get that feeling like I do, when you
<v Speaker 2>the air is so tense or you know you you
<v Speaker 2>don't need to be there. So we backed out and
<v Speaker 2>left that night. We're in our tent down the road
<v Speaker 2>and then Scott had heard a growl and this is
<v Speaker 2>what he says to me. And one of these days
<v Speaker 2>I'll probably get God because I just don't have better sense.
<v Speaker 2>And he tells me, he says, I want you to
<v Speaker 2>get up, get whatever you need, and go to the jeep.
<v Speaker 2>And my famous question he's going to shock me one
<v Speaker 2>day is I'll say, why you know I'm there to
<v Speaker 2>see something and you know I want to see it.
<v Speaker 2>You might get me, but I by George, you know.
<v Speaker 2>So I remember the next morning all over because it
<v Speaker 2>had slapped the side of my jeep. I remember that
<v Speaker 2>slapped it too. All over my jeep were these huge
<v Speaker 2>greasy handprints.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, handprints are about plice the size of mine. And
<v Speaker 3>when she's telling you that part about once, she always
<v Speaker 3>asked why I have to explain that to her. You know,
<v Speaker 3>there's a lot of times I don't have time at
<v Speaker 3>that moment to explain my rea, but she will want
<v Speaker 3>to sit and ask why. I know I'm not the
<v Speaker 3>only fella out there that has that situation go on.
<v Speaker 3>But you know, if any if anybody would like to
<v Speaker 3>get with us and think about setting up and going
<v Speaker 3>with us on any of these trips, we're easy to
<v Speaker 3>locate it. Squatch fishing outfitters. We're on Facebook, we have
<v Speaker 3>a we have a TikTok page that has a lot
<v Speaker 3>of information on it. I said. We also guide fly
<v Speaker 3>fishing and teach people to fly fish that have never
<v Speaker 3>even held a fly rod in our hands.
<v Speaker 2>I promise you We're not doing this to get French
<v Speaker 2>by as, because we pretty much go on the whole.
<v Speaker 2>But we have fun doing it.
<v Speaker 3>That's it. We're going to do it, you know, regardless anyway,
<v Speaker 3>That's what it's all about. That is, you know, and we,
<v Speaker 3>like I said, we've made you know, great friends all
<v Speaker 3>across the country doing this, and we we don't we
<v Speaker 3>do all of our expedition work and every thing right
<v Speaker 3>here in North Georgia Mountains, but we venture out all
<v Speaker 3>kinds of other places that also ourselves out to the
<v Speaker 3>LBL with a group out there calls all us Beast.
<v Speaker 3>One of their guys is actually a team member of ours,
<v Speaker 3>and it's a you know, it's been a really really
<v Speaker 3>great time.
<v Speaker 2>The best part to me is I get excited when
<v Speaker 2>new people, especially maybe skeptics, when they come in and
<v Speaker 2>something happens, you know, rocks and throne or are they
<v Speaker 2>here or how or whatever. That's the best part from me,
<v Speaker 2>because you can just I mean, some of them kind
<v Speaker 2>of lose lose it for a minute, and some of
<v Speaker 2>them get really really quiet.
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, we have a group that her and her
<v Speaker 3>husband comes on a regular basis, and she wasn't able
<v Speaker 3>to be here one particular evening and he got to
<v Speaker 3>see one first, and he was a skeptic. Well she
<v Speaker 3>was a little you know, bent about that. But later on,
<v Speaker 3>after coming for a while, she finally got to see
<v Speaker 3>one and through thermal vision one evening, and after she
<v Speaker 3>got to see it, she was like she lei, you know,
<v Speaker 3>she was, she was shaking from head to Toad had
<v Speaker 3>to get her pretty well calmed down to get her
<v Speaker 3>back to the camp fire that evening.
<v Speaker 2>She didn't want to talk about it.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and she wouldn't talk about it for a few days.
<v Speaker 3>She finally got worse. She would talk about it, but
<v Speaker 3>after seeing it, she she is kind of locked up
<v Speaker 3>a little bit. And when you see one of these things,
<v Speaker 3>you know, really and truly your mind has to process it.
<v Speaker 3>You go through a processing factor there that where you
<v Speaker 3>question yourself. You trying to tell yourself nine ways Saturday,
<v Speaker 3>you didn't see what you saw.
<v Speaker 2>Because there's no more deniability before when you you know,
<v Speaker 2>you've heard people say they're real or or whatever. Have
<v Speaker 2>you seen them on television, you know, you haven't seen
<v Speaker 2>it with your own eyes. So you can always say, oh,
<v Speaker 2>this is a game or this is just for fun,
<v Speaker 2>until you lay eyes on it, and then there's no
<v Speaker 2>more deniability.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's why I say, you know, it changes people.
<v Speaker 3>It really does, because it opens your eyes to the
<v Speaker 3>fact that you know, make sure you ask that question,
<v Speaker 3>if this is out there, what else is out there
<v Speaker 3>you know that we don't know about. Like Sheila had
<v Speaker 3>said earlier, you know, when we first started this, we
<v Speaker 3>were going to be strictly in the big Foot realm.
<v Speaker 3>That was it. Nothing else. That's kind of hard to do.
<v Speaker 3>Once you venture off down down this path some ways
<v Speaker 3>that other things come up that you you know, just
<v Speaker 3>you get a crave and you have to check into it. Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, what else has popped up with your Bigfoot research?
<v Speaker 3>Well, She'll has had some strange occurrences across the road
<v Speaker 3>on her.
<v Speaker 2>We had a patient pass one night and it was
<v Speaker 2>about ten and I was just leaving the house and
<v Speaker 2>I was over close to Helen, actually close to Bricetown,
<v Speaker 2>Ball and it is very remote out there and very dark.
<v Speaker 2>And at the time I drove a lifted jeep, so
<v Speaker 2>it was going down the dark road, and you know,
<v Speaker 2>I'm scanning from left to right for deer because I
<v Speaker 2>don't want to I'm half asleep and I don't want
<v Speaker 2>to hit a deer on the way home because most
<v Speaker 2>of the spots there's no signal. So I'm going and
<v Speaker 2>something on the left moves on the left side of
<v Speaker 2>the road and it it I don't know. In one jump,
<v Speaker 2>it was in the the on the yellow line of
<v Speaker 2>the road, and then the second jump there was like
<v Speaker 2>a ridge, like a forty five degree angle. It stuck
<v Speaker 2>that ridge, you know, like halfway up. I mean, I've
<v Speaker 2>never seen anything move this fast, but it was on
<v Speaker 2>all fours and it was so black, it was blacker
<v Speaker 2>than what was behind it. And the outline looked like
<v Speaker 2>a huge German shepherd. That's the only way I can
<v Speaker 2>describe it. And like I said, my jeep was lifted,
<v Speaker 2>so it come up like halfway to my grill. It
<v Speaker 2>stuck that ridge and went up there so fast, and
<v Speaker 2>all I could think about was the stories of all
<v Speaker 2>these you know, dog men. Everybody talks about dog men,
<v Speaker 2>how they try to wreck cars or they can pull over,
<v Speaker 2>and that's all that kept going through my mind. And
<v Speaker 2>I was, you know, I just was going as fast
<v Speaker 2>as I could, be honest with you, until I got
<v Speaker 2>a signal. I called Scott and I did. I took
<v Speaker 2>Scott back the next day and I said, this is
<v Speaker 2>where it went went up and there was huge canine tracks.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the canine tracks showed me. And like I said earlier,
<v Speaker 3>you know, I've hunted fished all my life, and river
<v Speaker 3>bottoms and swamps and pretty much anything that can be
<v Speaker 3>hunting fish for I've done it. And doing that, you
<v Speaker 3>know you've become you have to become a pretty good
<v Speaker 3>tracker and things like that, and you have to understand wildlife.
<v Speaker 2>Well.
<v Speaker 3>When Sheila shows me these tracks, I get to study
<v Speaker 3>on them pretty hard. And these are the hugest CA
<v Speaker 3>nine tracks I had ever seen in my life. And
<v Speaker 3>I've seen wolf tracks, but these were different. These The
<v Speaker 3>head of these tracks was elongated, and when I say elongated,
<v Speaker 3>I mean to the tune of about six and a
<v Speaker 3>half inches back to a narrow type hill on the
<v Speaker 3>on the center pad. And when I first saw it.
<v Speaker 3>I'm thinking myself, well, maybe it slid. And as I
<v Speaker 3>go up to the next track, it's the same way.
<v Speaker 3>And I start climbing this ridge and she's telling me
<v Speaker 3>not to climb up that ridge. And I'm going on
<v Speaker 3>up the ridge. And when I get to the top,
<v Speaker 3>their sand up there, which just reaffirmed my thoughts when
<v Speaker 3>I saw the tracks up there of what I what
<v Speaker 3>I was seeing on that ridge was correct, and the
<v Speaker 3>side of the ridge was too steep. In the top
<v Speaker 3>of the ridge, there wasn't enough depth of impression to
<v Speaker 3>make a casting of those, because I would have loved
<v Speaker 3>to make a cast of those.
<v Speaker 2>We got pictures of it. I try to take pictures
<v Speaker 2>of everything. I mean, when we're in the woods sometimes
<v Speaker 2>and I tell you, like when you're someplace and all
<v Speaker 2>of a sudden, the birds stop, everything stops. I mean,
<v Speaker 2>there's no sound and you feel the tension.
<v Speaker 3>You know.
<v Speaker 2>I'll listen. All I need is like a twig break
<v Speaker 2>or something. I do. I start taking random pictures, a
<v Speaker 2>lot of pictures. We were coming back from a logging road.
<v Speaker 2>We were hiking on a logger road in Helen, Georgia,
<v Speaker 2>and we knew we were being followed we had seen
<v Speaker 2>tracks some way up there, but we knew we were
<v Speaker 2>being followed and we were headed back to us an
<v Speaker 2>area and I caught movement to the right and Scott
<v Speaker 2>said it too. I'm taking pictures and he's walking over
<v Speaker 2>to try to go around it. And that's probably one
<v Speaker 2>of the best pictures I've ever taken. And whatever it
<v Speaker 2>was in there, had it had the area had been destroyed.
<v Speaker 3>She says, one of the best pictures we've ever taken
<v Speaker 3>us actually, one of the best picture as I've ever seen,
<v Speaker 3>and not saying that because we took it, but it's
<v Speaker 3>it's clear, and we don't put that one out on
<v Speaker 3>social media or anything like that, just because I don't
<v Speaker 3>want to see that particular picture round on the internet.
<v Speaker 2>You know, there's a lot of believers believers, but there's
<v Speaker 2>a lot of disbelievers. I'm sure you know that too.
<v Speaker 2>You got to pick and choose. So we take the
<v Speaker 2>good with the bad. And the only thing I can
<v Speaker 2>tell skeptics that wants to sit back and laugh is
<v Speaker 2>come go with us.
<v Speaker 3>That's it. Nothing else. We can definitely show you good
<v Speaker 3>eating and uh, you know it plays a good time.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, absolutely, Searching for a bigfoot and fly fishing. Sounds
<v Speaker 1>like a wonderful life. And you guys live out in
<v Speaker 1>the country and that just sounds amazing. I mean, I
<v Speaker 1>can't imagine the joy that you guys feel living out
<v Speaker 1>in the middle of nowhere and being able to go
<v Speaker 1>out there looking for sasquatch and nature and hanging out
<v Speaker 1>with like minded people. That it's got to be amazing, amazing.
<v Speaker 1>I live the same life, so I understand, and it's
<v Speaker 1>just a lot of fun being out there seeing the
<v Speaker 1>wildlife and joining the piece of the forest. And Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>the fact that you guys had these encounters and all
<v Speaker 1>these experiences out there, that's just amazing. What kind of
<v Speaker 1>feeling did you have, Sila when you saw that sasquatch
<v Speaker 1>hiding behind the tree? I know you were shaking, But
<v Speaker 1>what went through your mind?
<v Speaker 2>You try to just just like your brain goes through
<v Speaker 2>like a card catalog, you know what is that because
<v Speaker 2>you're trying to justify it, but you don't have anything
<v Speaker 2>to like in it too. So I knew it wasn't
<v Speaker 2>a bear. I knew it wasn't a bear. And there's
<v Speaker 2>what else would be in the woods dressed like a
<v Speaker 2>huge man wearing a red coat and looked like you
<v Speaker 2>had clay for a face or whatever. You know, you're
<v Speaker 2>going through like your old crap files. Like Scott said,
<v Speaker 2>I knew what I saw, but I was trying so
<v Speaker 2>hard to explain it away in my mind on the way.
<v Speaker 2>I kept telling Scott that was a bear, that I
<v Speaker 2>had to be a bear, but it wasn't a bear.
<v Speaker 2>And it took me about three days before I I
<v Speaker 2>knew what it was. And it was so funny because
<v Speaker 2>I talked to a guy that was in the same
<v Speaker 2>spot I want to say it was the year before
<v Speaker 2>or something before, and he had not told anybody, but
<v Speaker 2>he had seen caught a glimpse of one, and he
<v Speaker 2>had not told him the color of what he saw.
<v Speaker 2>And when I told him the color, that was the
<v Speaker 2>same color. So you know, I knew whatever it was.
<v Speaker 3>I know what it was.
<v Speaker 2>I would not have looked that way had it not
<v Speaker 2>made that noise, and I took a step back and
<v Speaker 2>looked to where the noise come from. So you know,
<v Speaker 2>it had to want me to see it, otherwise, you know,
<v Speaker 2>he could have been right there, probably would have never
<v Speaker 2>seen it. Had a clue.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the same way with me when our buddy if
<v Speaker 3>he hadn't saw it move, just a slight movement up
<v Speaker 3>there and hollered me that something was up on the
<v Speaker 3>ridge where he was at. Yeah, he could eased in
<v Speaker 3>out of there, and none of us ever saw him
<v Speaker 3>just watching up. Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>And were either one of you able to see facial
<v Speaker 1>features on the creature when Sheila saw it behind the
<v Speaker 1>tree or when you saw it behind a rock. Could you,
<v Speaker 1>guys distinguish any features that really stuck out?
<v Speaker 2>The biggest thing that stuck out to me is, you know,
<v Speaker 2>even it didn't have a neck. There was no neck.
<v Speaker 2>This thing was huge. The left shoulders on the left
<v Speaker 2>side of the tree, the right shoulders on the right
<v Speaker 2>side of the tree. The face looked like like leather,
<v Speaker 2>dried clay or something, but there was no you know,
<v Speaker 2>I'm thinking this thing is will we covered, you know,
<v Speaker 2>and fur? I'm thinking that's what they looked like. But
<v Speaker 2>his face was not covered in fur. It had these
<v Speaker 2>big dark eyes and the leather face. That's about the
<v Speaker 2>biggest thing, you know, I can see in my mind's eye,
<v Speaker 2>you know, just having a flashback. But it's not like
<v Speaker 2>he had blue eyes or green eyes or anything like that.
<v Speaker 2>It just but I'm gonna tell you this, it wasn't
<v Speaker 2>what I say saw was not an ape. It had
<v Speaker 2>more human characteristics than any animal. But obviously something's going
<v Speaker 2>on for it to move that fast.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, that and I actually thank me. And she
<v Speaker 3>has seen the same one. The colors were the same,
<v Speaker 3>the facial color was the same. And when she's saying clay,
<v Speaker 3>she's speaking of a grayish type clay, and that everybody
<v Speaker 3>you know always talks about that conical shaped head, this
<v Speaker 3>one right here that coconuts just as round as mine yours, yea.
<v Speaker 3>And he appears to have no neck. But I personally
<v Speaker 3>believe that there trapezoid muscles, miltial muscles up there. You know,
<v Speaker 3>they're they're just so well defined and built that they're
<v Speaker 3>like a linebacker or something, you know, where those traps
<v Speaker 3>come up up to like in the base of their neck.
<v Speaker 3>What makes them appear to have because I've heard people
<v Speaker 3>talk about, oh, they can't turn they don't have a
<v Speaker 3>neck or or anything. They can't turn their head. But
<v Speaker 3>that's not true because I've I've physically watched two of
<v Speaker 3>them turn the head, turn that neck.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I guess it's It just depends on like how
<v Speaker 1>stocky they are, like a huge bodybuilder can't really turn
<v Speaker 1>its neck. But if it's not big and bulky, I'm
<v Speaker 1>sure it can turn its neck. The sasquatch that I encountered,
<v Speaker 1>he was able to turn his neck. It wasn't like
<v Speaker 1>he had to turn his whole body.
<v Speaker 3>He was able to look over at me, right, m
<v Speaker 3>that's and that's the way these were. The one we
<v Speaker 3>seen behind the rock. Now we saw that one behind
<v Speaker 3>the rock on thermals, so you know, not a lot
<v Speaker 3>of good facial definition to be able to see, but
<v Speaker 3>it was all the good outline and everything was you
<v Speaker 3>know great.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, is that the thermal that's up at the Sasquatch
<v Speaker 1>Expedition Museum in Georgia. They have like I don't know,
<v Speaker 1>like a side by side in there, and there's like
<v Speaker 1>a laptop sitting in the side by side with that
<v Speaker 1>plays like this thermal footage. But I think that's from
<v Speaker 1>the bf R O. I'm not sure.
<v Speaker 3>I believe I believe it is. No, that's not it.
<v Speaker 3>It's it's very similar to that, but no, that's not
<v Speaker 3>the footage of it.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's that's amazing though. Either way. The girl that
<v Speaker 1>was able to see it through the thermal device. That
<v Speaker 1>wasn't Kristin. Was it that sounds like Kristen that I
<v Speaker 1>interviewed and she's from Georgia.
<v Speaker 3>No, it was It wasn't Kristen. We know Kristin, but
<v Speaker 3>it wasn't her. It was another younger lady that was
<v Speaker 3>with us. And I heard I heard him, And as
<v Speaker 3>soon as I heard it, and I was scanning with
<v Speaker 3>my thermal, I picked him up and I handed it
<v Speaker 3>to her for her to look at. And when she
<v Speaker 3>was looking at it and everything, she was explaining to
<v Speaker 3>me everything what was going on with him. All of
<v Speaker 3>a sudden, I see her go painting with that thermal
<v Speaker 3>and uh, she said, this thing took off running and
<v Speaker 3>then she says, and it runs like a man. And uh.
<v Speaker 3>She walked and run as far as she could. She
<v Speaker 3>handed me that thermal back, and she was ready to
<v Speaker 3>get back to that campfire like right then. And I
<v Speaker 3>had to rain her back in a good bit, because
<v Speaker 3>I mean she was she was ready to leave. Her
<v Speaker 3>excitement and everything had her wanting to get around a
<v Speaker 3>lot of the folks. No, it hadn't slowed her down
<v Speaker 3>a bit. She goes with us on just about.
<v Speaker 1>Everyone Yeah, that's amazing, and it sounds like you guys
<v Speaker 1>are on the right track. You've found a lot of
<v Speaker 1>good areas with all the scouting you've done, and you
<v Speaker 1>guys just seem to know where to be. And you know,
<v Speaker 1>a lot of researchers or people that put on these
<v Speaker 1>expeditions just go to past places where people have had sightings.
<v Speaker 1>But that's good that you guys are in there scouting
<v Speaker 1>and trying to find recent activity. And I feel like
<v Speaker 1>that's key when you're trying to take people out there.
<v Speaker 2>I do too, because I truly truly believe we frequent
<v Speaker 2>a few areas and hot spots, but I think they
<v Speaker 2>recognize us.
<v Speaker 3>And knowing that we, you know, and we keep a
<v Speaker 3>check on these areas, you know a lot. And when
<v Speaker 3>I say a lot, probably I hate to know what
<v Speaker 3>our true gas bill is about how much we spend
<v Speaker 3>running back and forth in these places. But and that's
<v Speaker 3>the reason we do it, you know, is keeping a
<v Speaker 3>check on it and everything. And when you carry people out,
<v Speaker 3>we want to carry them to the most active location
<v Speaker 3>that we possibly can, and so you know, they it
<v Speaker 3>ups their chances of getting experienced their own encounter. And
<v Speaker 3>I do know what you're talking about about other people
<v Speaker 3>going out and everything just going to past areas in
<v Speaker 3>which we've seen that, and that's you know, that's not
<v Speaker 3>how we try to do it. Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely. You know you're in a good area when you
<v Speaker 1>have like vocalizations taking place in the daytime, when they're
<v Speaker 1>slamming on trees during the day and it's like, Okay,
<v Speaker 1>we need to go back here. And it seems like
<v Speaker 1>when you go back, more and more things unfold.
<v Speaker 3>Yes, it really does.
<v Speaker 2>It does.
<v Speaker 3>And seeing frequent these areas so much, I truly believe
<v Speaker 3>they know our vehicles when they pull up.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it seems like they're attracted to you. Do you
<v Speaker 1>feel like they followed you to your new home where
<v Speaker 1>you live out in the wilderness or do you think
<v Speaker 1>just by chance they're out there too. I'm sure you
<v Speaker 1>scoped out that area for a reason, and possibly because
<v Speaker 1>there's been sasquatch sightings out there.
<v Speaker 2>No, we had no idea when we bought this cabin
<v Speaker 2>and the other cabin we were releasing as a crow flies.
<v Speaker 2>It's probably what about ten miles. Ten miles is not
<v Speaker 2>that far from the first cabin we leased, and the
<v Speaker 2>areas we go to honestly within these mountain ranges right around.
<v Speaker 3>Us, so well as far as our house. We actually
<v Speaker 3>didn't have any idea when we bought the home.
<v Speaker 2>Didn't take us long though, didn't take long to.
<v Speaker 3>Find out, but we didn't have any idea about it.
<v Speaker 3>In one of our neighbors, once he found out that
<v Speaker 3>we did this, he was so excited because he finally
<v Speaker 3>had somebody right close here he could talk to about it,
<v Speaker 3>because he's had a couple of siding hisself here.
<v Speaker 2>He'll text us, He'll be at home and he'll text
<v Speaker 2>Scott and say step outside, and you know, we'll step
<v Speaker 2>outside and you'll hear the prettiest howls. Or one night,
<v Speaker 2>Scott he had text Scott and Scott was on the
<v Speaker 2>front porch and he called me out there and there's
<v Speaker 2>a creep behind our house. And I can't tell this
<v Speaker 2>is probably the scariest thing I ever heard. It sounded
<v Speaker 2>like a war cry or battle cry right by the water,
<v Speaker 2>and you know, it just made me kind of like,
<v Speaker 2>you know, like a rabbit when it gets scared. It's
<v Speaker 2>hunker's down right there. You didn't know what to do.
<v Speaker 2>That thing was so loud. And then about fifteen seconds
<v Speaker 2>later across the yard on the other woodline something your back,
<v Speaker 2>So I don't know what was going down.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, everyone's in a great, great while. It always seems
<v Speaker 3>to happen during the spring and during the fall. It's
<v Speaker 3>that we have some of the move some more that
<v Speaker 3>moved through here, and it's kind of like those two
<v Speaker 3>see each other and there's like a clash and we've
<v Speaker 3>only gotten here it a couple of times, but it's
<v Speaker 3>it's kind of like two tightens up on that ridge
<v Speaker 3>that they're fighting.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's incredible. It seems like these things are some
<v Speaker 1>sort of super predator and once they catch your scent,
<v Speaker 1>they can follow you for many miles away, or it's
<v Speaker 1>just simply something supernatural that we don't understand. What are
<v Speaker 1>your thoughts about that?
<v Speaker 3>Oh, you know, that's that's a very good question. We
<v Speaker 3>get asked a lot. We had a very very good friend, Virus.
<v Speaker 3>He's passed away now, but I really enjoyed his theory
<v Speaker 3>on these things, and he studied them a lot. He
<v Speaker 3>thought he actually thought that there were two different types
<v Speaker 3>of these things, one that was a strictly flesh and
<v Speaker 3>blood animal and then one that he like to call
<v Speaker 3>a hybrid that was a type that had other powers
<v Speaker 3>and could could do interdimensional travel and things like that.
<v Speaker 3>And when you would sit down and talk to him
<v Speaker 3>and listen to why he had his theories he made,
<v Speaker 3>he made really good sense about what he was saying,
<v Speaker 3>because you know, it just it takes a physical being
<v Speaker 3>to leave a track.
<v Speaker 2>And then where did the tracks go?
<v Speaker 3>Yeah? And then where does that track go?
<v Speaker 2>When we first started, we thought it was just flesh
<v Speaker 2>and blood and that was it at the end. But
<v Speaker 2>that's not the taste anymore. There's so much unexplained where
<v Speaker 2>did the tracks go? And we've heard so much other
<v Speaker 2>stuff that just is unexplainable. There has to be so
<v Speaker 2>what they call WU with this, that's yeah, we've heard
<v Speaker 2>portals and it used to we think, oh, that's crazy,
<v Speaker 2>there's no such thing as portals. Well that's changed.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you heard so many people talking about I'm disappearing
<v Speaker 3>and everything. And I can account for some of that
<v Speaker 3>parts about the disappearing with one thing, the uh, the
<v Speaker 3>one that I got to see when he dropped down.
<v Speaker 3>If I had a that moment, had been blinking my
<v Speaker 3>eyes and there have been a little foliers there. He'd
<v Speaker 3>been going without me seeing him drop down, but I
<v Speaker 3>got to see him drop down. I mean it was
<v Speaker 3>so fast. An Olympic athlete is not as fast as
<v Speaker 3>one of these things. Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely. And the fact that the tracks just disappear that
<v Speaker 1>I hear that a lot, especially the stories where people
<v Speaker 1>follow tracks in the snow and giant fields and they
<v Speaker 1>say that the tracks just end. And that's scary to
<v Speaker 1>think about because a lot of times I find just
<v Speaker 1>one track in the middle of a trail and it's like,
<v Speaker 1>where are the other tracks? Maybe it just took a
<v Speaker 1>giant leap and landed in the middle of the trail
<v Speaker 1>and then didn't leave any any sign behind.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And we found another thing too that you know,
<v Speaker 3>when you do find a track, us as humans, and
<v Speaker 3>you know, we think of our own selves, we start
<v Speaker 3>looking at that three foot range for the next track.
<v Speaker 3>You have to look further than that. For that next track.
<v Speaker 3>You're gonna be looking to that four or five foot stripe.
<v Speaker 3>And we have also found that there's not a track
<v Speaker 3>where you're looking, so you give up. But if you
<v Speaker 3>go a little bit further you may find another one.
<v Speaker 3>But like with a snow deal, Yeah, there's just no
<v Speaker 3>accounting for that.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and there's reports where people have seen sasquatch and
<v Speaker 1>they just vanish into thin air, which, you know, it
<v Speaker 1>sounds out there. Like you said, all that sounds crazy.
<v Speaker 1>But the more you start researching this topic, the more
<v Speaker 1>you start believing all that, especially when it comes to
<v Speaker 1>other cryptids. Once you get into the bigfoot subject had
<v Speaker 1>on you start learning about like dog Man and other
<v Speaker 1>cryptid creatures, and you have a few experiences and you
<v Speaker 1>believe it. Especially when you see a sasquatch. It's like, Okay,
<v Speaker 1>if this is real and that's out there in the woods,
<v Speaker 1>what else is real that people are you know, describing
<v Speaker 1>and talking.
<v Speaker 3>About exactly exactly, you know, And a lot of people
<v Speaker 3>say that, well, those folks are crazy and everything. Well
<v Speaker 3>those people that say that they weren't the ones that
<v Speaker 3>were standing there that saw whatever those folks saw.
<v Speaker 2>And people say, well, how can you believe that, I've
<v Speaker 2>never seen a big foot? Blah blah blah. And you know,
<v Speaker 2>I tell them this, you know, I believe in God.
<v Speaker 2>I've never seen God, but I'm one hundred and ten
<v Speaker 2>percent sure. You know, I believe in God, but I've
<v Speaker 2>seen a bigfoot?
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, absolutely, what kind of gear do you guys
<v Speaker 1>use on the field.
<v Speaker 3>The As far as our thermals, we use a GM
<v Speaker 3>type thermals. There's another one that we use is infra
<v Speaker 3>in for Infra X, Infra red X and then Flear products.
<v Speaker 3>Those are our thermals that we utilize.
<v Speaker 1>How does the AGM perform and are you able to
<v Speaker 1>record video with it?
<v Speaker 3>You can record video with it. We use the seven fifteen,
<v Speaker 3>which is the performance of it is outstanding. It has
<v Speaker 3>like a seven and fifty yard range on it, very
<v Speaker 3>wide field of view, twelve power zoom. It's actually, in
<v Speaker 3>my opinion, it's actually better than the Flear the infrared
<v Speaker 3>X that we use now. Also it utilizes your cell
<v Speaker 3>phone for your viewing screen and small tope camera that
<v Speaker 3>has a high high resolution, very high refresh numbers on it,
<v Speaker 3>and unbelievable range on that thing with the fifteen power zoom.
<v Speaker 3>I'm tending to like it a lot for the simple
<v Speaker 3>reason it's not a monocular type. You're looking at a screen.
<v Speaker 3>It doesn't hurt your eyes. You can look at that
<v Speaker 3>thing all night and not hurt your eyes. And we're
<v Speaker 3>so we're leaning into that a good bit. The only
<v Speaker 3>problem with finding with it is it will burn a
<v Speaker 3>battery down on our cell phone.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'd like to check it out sometime. Maybe you
<v Speaker 1>and Sheila can come out to Missouri one day and
<v Speaker 1>do an expedition with me.
<v Speaker 2>Oh you know that that's awesome because we had some
<v Speaker 2>people contact us. We're you know, people contact usn't tell
<v Speaker 2>and tell us they're having problems and we try to
<v Speaker 2>help them out. We truly do going out there to
<v Speaker 2>look and blah blah blah. But we had somebody contact
<v Speaker 2>us from Missouri that was having problems and ask if
<v Speaker 2>we'd be willing to go out there.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, if you do.
<v Speaker 3>We put a lot, Like I said, we put a
<v Speaker 3>lot of information and everything out of our TikTok page
<v Speaker 3>and that was one of the things that we had
<v Speaker 3>put out on one of our things there. And the
<v Speaker 3>feedback that came from it was overwhelming to say the least.
<v Speaker 3>And uh and like she said, Missouri was one of
<v Speaker 3>the places and we talked to and responded with those
<v Speaker 3>folks pretty good. Bit.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, hopefully they got the problem resolved. And it's hard
<v Speaker 1>to keep up with so many people. I'm sure you
<v Speaker 1>have folks all the time saying you need to get
<v Speaker 1>out here. You need to go over here, you need
<v Speaker 1>to come out to my house. And it's hard to
<v Speaker 1>find time.
<v Speaker 2>It is.
<v Speaker 3>Our schedule is pretty pretty swamped, and it's you know,
<v Speaker 3>but I tell you we're both retired. Well, I'm retired.
<v Speaker 3>She retired and then she just decided to grow up
<v Speaker 3>and become a hospice nurse. So she does that now.
<v Speaker 3>But this is actually turned into a full time gig.
<v Speaker 3>I mean, and I always heard that old saying, you know,
<v Speaker 3>if you find something that you love to do, it's
<v Speaker 3>not really like working, And that's true. Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely. You both are retired law enforcement. Is that correct?
<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Yeah, I of those over twenty three years. And
<v Speaker 3>I'm also a naval veteran. Wow. And I joined in
<v Speaker 3>with a group it's called Project Hell and Waters a
<v Speaker 3>long time back, and it's for disabled vets and it's
<v Speaker 3>a fly fishing group. And that that organization is a
<v Speaker 3>super organization. Anybody that's a disabled vet that would want
<v Speaker 3>to venture into fly fishing or anything, those are some
<v Speaker 3>nice people to get in touch with. Great starting point.
<v Speaker 3>That's where I got my starting point and carried it
<v Speaker 3>on from there. Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>I love trout fishing. I've never went fly fishing. But
<v Speaker 1>it looks like a lot of fun when you when
<v Speaker 1>you do law enforcement, you use all this gear and
<v Speaker 1>you're basically tracking down hominids. So when you switched over
<v Speaker 1>to bigfoot research, you're essentially doing the same thing. You're
<v Speaker 1>using the same gear and you're using your discernment to
<v Speaker 1>distinguish a situation. And do you feel like what you've
<v Speaker 1>learned with law enforcement has helped you with the research?
<v Speaker 2>Definitely?
<v Speaker 3>Oh yes, oh yes, the the part about the investigating
<v Speaker 3>part and everything. A lot of the type things go
<v Speaker 3>hand in hand. And yes, without that prior training, we
<v Speaker 3>probably wouldn't be the positions we're in today.
<v Speaker 2>I think the biggest thing for me is, you know,
<v Speaker 2>you this is not free law enforcement, it's just for whoever.
<v Speaker 2>You better use your inoition that comes in very handy.
<v Speaker 3>Yes, yeah, absolutely, everyone you know, they want to they
<v Speaker 3>want to get into this and everything and in which
<v Speaker 3>it is very enjoyable. It can be trying sometimes, but
<v Speaker 3>the one thing I tell everybody is you become a
<v Speaker 3>good woodsman that understand the animals that are in your
<v Speaker 3>area or the area. You're going to be very knowledgeable
<v Speaker 3>of all them ah and become a very good, very
<v Speaker 3>good Woodsman.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, absolutely, And these things leave so many signs in
<v Speaker 1>the woods and it's hard to track them down. I'm
<v Speaker 1>sure when you guys were on duty, you were able
<v Speaker 1>to track down suspects and handcuff them and arrest them.
<v Speaker 1>But this creature, it's like where's Waldo. You're trying to
<v Speaker 1>find them, and it's like he just left a handprint
<v Speaker 1>on the vehicle. You know, the mystery always continues.
<v Speaker 3>Yes, that's what makes it so interesting too.
<v Speaker 2>You go feel them fither down that rabbit hole.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, absolutely, And what do you where do you guys
<v Speaker 1>plan on taking the expeditions and what are your plans
<v Speaker 1>in the future.
<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm.
<v Speaker 3>Well, we kind of got pulled into speaking of a
<v Speaker 3>few commerces and we started doing that a little bit,
<v Speaker 3>and we've kind of said that, you know, we wouldn't
<v Speaker 3>do that, but there we are, and it's we're going
<v Speaker 3>to continue going with it as we have. We stay
<v Speaker 3>busy enough with it, you know.
<v Speaker 2>That's our first and foremost thing, because we're doing what
<v Speaker 2>we like to do and I don't want to sway
<v Speaker 2>from that. If that makes any sense, you know, I'd
<v Speaker 2>be happy to talk about it, you know, answer any
<v Speaker 2>questions but that's our priority right now. We do this year,
<v Speaker 2>we've done three expeditions, but we do have a private one,
<v Speaker 2>So if there's enough of people we do we'll do
<v Speaker 2>the private ones as well.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because a lot a lot of folks there, their
<v Speaker 3>time frame doesn't equal up to what we've scheduled, but
<v Speaker 3>they have enough people to do it where at a
<v Speaker 3>certain time, and we try to accommodate those folks.
<v Speaker 2>Also, So we're just going to keep doing what we do.
<v Speaker 3>And yeah, you know, if anyone has a feeling that
<v Speaker 3>they don't think they're physically fitting us or anything like that,
<v Speaker 3>you know, we accommodate that also. Like few were saying earlier,
<v Speaker 3>we have a sitting group that's h and that's the
<v Speaker 3>primary folks that either can't or just don't want them
<v Speaker 3>hike out in the middle of the wilderness at night.
<v Speaker 3>And a lot of times that sitting group has as
<v Speaker 3>much and more activity than HI group does.
<v Speaker 2>Because we're their entertainment. That's what I tell everybody. I mean,
<v Speaker 2>if you sit around that campfire, you just talk and
<v Speaker 2>have good time whatever, they're going to come in because
<v Speaker 2>they don't feel, you know, threatened, they get a little
<v Speaker 2>bit closer if you sit there you're quiet, listening for
<v Speaker 2>every little you know noise, then they're going to be quiet.
<v Speaker 3>These things are these things are very curious and they
<v Speaker 3>come in and check things out. I mean. And it's
<v Speaker 3>so we're not like trying to be like hunters or
<v Speaker 3>anything like that. Stalk and pray. We want to make
<v Speaker 3>a little noise, you know, and arouse things interesting to
<v Speaker 3>come look at us. It's a whole lot easier for
<v Speaker 3>them to come look at you than you go find him.
<v Speaker 2>And we tell everybody what happens or what you hear,
<v Speaker 2>what you see, that that's the truth. There's nobody out
<v Speaker 2>there in a monkey suit. We're not paying anybody to
<v Speaker 2>be out there in the woods making sound. I mean,
<v Speaker 2>what what you see is what you get. We never
<v Speaker 2>ever try to scare anybody. That's that's not what we do.
<v Speaker 2>You know, If you're scared, then tell us. And if
<v Speaker 2>we give this whole little speech before before we go out,
<v Speaker 2>Scott always tells everybody, you know, whatever you do, if
<v Speaker 2>anything happens, you don't run, because once you run, you've
<v Speaker 2>become prey. Now, he tells them too, if you see
<v Speaker 2>me or Sheila running, you better try to stay called up.
<v Speaker 3>That's true. Yeah, I mean it's and you'd be surprised
<v Speaker 3>that the folks you know that have come go with us.
<v Speaker 3>And for some of these people, you know, they've never
<v Speaker 3>camp before, they won't get in the outdoors and have
<v Speaker 3>these type experiences, and we welcome them. Also, we helped
<v Speaker 3>put their tents together and things like that, and we did,
<v Speaker 3>like I said, we just do our best to accommodate
<v Speaker 3>each and every person that wants to come and go
<v Speaker 3>on with these.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we and we established a base camp. So, like
<v Speaker 2>I say, everybody's camp. If they're in a tin or
<v Speaker 2>a little trailer or whatever, that's fine. We've had people
<v Speaker 2>come that, you know that's decided to camp on the
<v Speaker 2>edge of base camp before after we went out, you know,
<v Speaker 2>they come back that night, they didn't sleep all night.
<v Speaker 2>They got up and set by the fire all night
<v Speaker 2>because of all that activity they were having at their tent.
<v Speaker 2>So of course the next day they relocated their tent.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's pretty interesting situation.
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what it is, but between like three
<v Speaker 2>and five or six is like you know, of course
<v Speaker 2>the week an hour and it seems like that's anything's
<v Speaker 2>going to come into your camp. That's when they're going
<v Speaker 2>to come in.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, always when you least expect it. And I believe
<v Speaker 1>that's key is knowing in your mind that these things
<v Speaker 1>are a lot closer than what you'd think. And I
<v Speaker 1>think the logical person would think we need to go
<v Speaker 1>deeper into the wilderness, we need to explore every inch
<v Speaker 1>of this park, which is impossible to do, especially when
<v Speaker 1>you're in a national forest. But if you're aware of
<v Speaker 1>your surroundings and that these things will do something when
<v Speaker 1>you least expect it, I think that's the best place
<v Speaker 1>to get activities around base camp because, like you said,
<v Speaker 1>they're going to approach you, and they're curious creatures by nature,
<v Speaker 1>and they're always watching.
<v Speaker 3>That's right. Have you had the opportunity to go to
<v Speaker 3>that expedition Bigfoot the museum there in Terry.
<v Speaker 1>Low, Yeah, I've been there before. David wasn't in there
<v Speaker 1>when I went, but his wife was.
<v Speaker 3>You know. You know that as you go through that place,
<v Speaker 3>they have a life sized replicat I mounted sasquatch in there.
<v Speaker 3>And we live in this region, so every once in
<v Speaker 3>a while, if I were one of our expeditions is
<v Speaker 3>close enough, we like to take our group up there
<v Speaker 3>to the museum and let the folks you know, see that,
<v Speaker 3>and because a lot of hadn't had the opportunity to
<v Speaker 3>see it. But I do tell a lot of people,
<v Speaker 3>you know, us as humans, we're natural predators and a
<v Speaker 3>predator and you know this. I'm just putting it out
<v Speaker 3>there the way I put it out to my clients.
<v Speaker 3>A predator is a animal. Their eyes are forward facing.
<v Speaker 3>As we walked through the forest and everything. We're not
<v Speaker 3>looking up in the trees unless we're bird watching or
<v Speaker 3>squirrel hunting or something like that. We're primarily looking for
<v Speaker 3>my level down where we're walking. And I tell them,
<v Speaker 3>you know, when you walk buy that replica sasquatch in
<v Speaker 3>the museum, think about that and as you go buying,
<v Speaker 3>if he was if there was a couple more fir
<v Speaker 3>trees right there in front of him, you could walk
<v Speaker 3>right by him in the woods and never seen unless
<v Speaker 3>you look down and seeing his feet or having looked
<v Speaker 3>up and seen his face because they blend so well.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's a good example of what they look like.
<v Speaker 1>The most memorable thing from the museum was that giant
<v Speaker 1>turd that was in there. I mean, that thing was
<v Speaker 1>huge and I mean.
<v Speaker 2>It.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't know what else that would belong to,
<v Speaker 1>but that thing is ginormous, very human like, but I
<v Speaker 1>mean it is.
<v Speaker 3>She has got a picture of one really very similar.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm always keeping a lookout because that's when you
<v Speaker 1>know it's something unusual when it's like that size, Because
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people send me photos of scat, But
<v Speaker 1>this thing that's in the museum, I mean that's very
<v Speaker 1>human like. But I would say or twenty times bigger
<v Speaker 1>unless somebody just ate something horrible and really how to go? Yeah, yeah, definitely,
<v Speaker 1>oh yeah, without a doubt. Well, if I'm ever in Georgia,
<v Speaker 1>I'd like to meet up with you guys and possibly
<v Speaker 1>do an expedition. I think that'd be a lot of fun.
<v Speaker 1>I have a lot of gear and Yeah, likewise, if
<v Speaker 1>you guys ever come to Missouri, I definitely have a
<v Speaker 1>place for you guys to go and an area that's
<v Speaker 1>active and you would definitely experience something, whether it's bigfoot
<v Speaker 1>activity or the orbs. I mean maybe they're connected, but
<v Speaker 1>you definitely experience something like that.
<v Speaker 3>Love, we'd actually love to and if you're way, definitely
<v Speaker 3>give us a shout.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, how close are you to blue Ridge, Georgia.
<v Speaker 3>Oh, you know, appear mileage wise is not the thing
<v Speaker 3>if we kind of measure thing in time, because the
<v Speaker 3>way the roads are curvy and everything we're about. We're
<v Speaker 3>about thirty minutes from Blue Ridge.
<v Speaker 2>We live in like between Blue Ridge, Illa j Blairsville.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, we're like in the middle of everything. It
<v Speaker 2>just whatever way we pulled out of the drive, you know,
<v Speaker 2>is where we're going, Like you know what direction.
<v Speaker 3>It takes us about anywhere from thirty to forty minutes
<v Speaker 3>to get to any one of those places. Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, And that's big woods there. Those mountains are huge.
<v Speaker 1>And some of those Forest Service roads they're not very
<v Speaker 1>well maintained. I'm not going to say they're all not,
<v Speaker 1>but some of the ones that I went down, it's
<v Speaker 1>like you better go slow, especially if you're in a car,
<v Speaker 1>because you might bottom out.
<v Speaker 3>That's why we primarily stay in four wheel drives and jeeps.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, for sure. And let's see, is there anything else
<v Speaker 1>that you guys would like to mention? We're running short
<v Speaker 1>on time, but I'm all ears if you guys got.
<v Speaker 3>More speaking like the Forest Service roads and things like that,
<v Speaker 3>anybody that would like to come now, we have people
<v Speaker 3>where our base camps are set up. A car can
<v Speaker 3>come to those base camp areas and then we utilize
<v Speaker 3>different vehicles, you know, to go to our areas where
<v Speaker 3>we're gonna be, which you're usually not far away.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. If if anybody has any questions or is just curious,
<v Speaker 2>just go to TikTok. I try to actually post most
<v Speaker 2>of the stuff on TikTok. We have Facebook and the
<v Speaker 2>tik talk. I don't post everything, but it'll give you
<v Speaker 2>a good idea.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's true.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, absolutely, do you guys have a website.
<v Speaker 3>That website just we just use the Facebook and TikTok
<v Speaker 3>and uh yeah, that keeps us both busy enough.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, that sounds good. And I will use the name
<v Speaker 1>and the title of this podcast. And if anyone's interested,
<v Speaker 1>definitely check out Scott and Sheila's page and do an
<v Speaker 1>expedition with them. And I think you won't be disappointed.
<v Speaker 1>From what it sounds like. There's a lot of activity
<v Speaker 1>taking place in these areas that they research at, and
<v Speaker 1>I definitely think it's worth people's time.
<v Speaker 3>We really appreciate you having us on your show.
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, thank you so much Scott and Shila for being
<v Speaker 1>a guest on the channel and it was an absolute
<v Speaker 1>pleasure speaking with both of you. That wraps up our
<v Speaker 1>conversation with Scott and Shila Squatch Fishing Outfitters. Their stories
<v Speaker 1>prove that the North Georgia Mountains hold more than just wilderness.
<v Speaker 1>They hold secrets waiting to be uncovered. If you want
<v Speaker 1>to connect with them or even join one of their expeditions,
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<v Speaker 1>me sometime at Sasquatch Theory at outlook dot com. I
<v Speaker 1>know there's a lot of people listening who have seen
<v Speaker 1>these things and they are really hesitant about speaking up
<v Speaker 1>about their sightings. But I feel like it's beneficial. This
<v Speaker 1>information needs to be shared with the public so people
<v Speaker 1>are aware that these things are out there. Who knows,
<v Speaker 1>your encounter story could cause a chain reaction of people
<v Speaker 1>opening up about their own experiences in the same area,
<v Speaker 1>So don't be hesitant reach out and I would love
<v Speaker 1>to hear about your encounters. I want to take a
<v Speaker 1>moment to thank all the listeners, but I also want
<v Speaker 1>to give a special thanks out to everyone who has
<v Speaker 1>supported the channel, the people that have sent me gear
<v Speaker 1>or some type of donation. Thank you guys very much,
<v Speaker 1>and I think about you each and every day and
<v Speaker 1>you've helped out the channel so much, so I really
<v Speaker 1>appreciate it. Thank you guys so much for keeping the
<v Speaker 1>channel going until the next one. You guys, be safe
<v Speaker 1>out in the forest.