2026-04-24- KSR - Hour 1

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Speaker 2: Off by Way.

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Speaker 3: Welcome everyone, It is Kentucky Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Friday, February the twenty fourth.

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Speaker 3: We are live on an absolutely perfect Mountain Friday, Mountain Spring Day here in Manchester, Kentucky at the Freedom House, operated by Volunteers of America Mid State. You can give it Sean Mclark' puppet shop full line eight five to nine.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, howbout that well?

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Speaker 5: I got a fall.

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Speaker 2: Twenty two to eighty seven.

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Speaker 3: A vision Auto glass Tex machine is seven seven two seven four five two five four and this edition sponsored by the Tjsmith Office called TJ will make Them Pay.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna do a little bit of an intro here.

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Speaker 3: First of all, this location, the Freedom House here in Manchester, open in March twenty twenty and is unlike any other place in the state.

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Speaker 2: It is the only.

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Speaker 3: Residential recovery program in the state that allows mothers and children to live together while the mother is getting treatment for addiction. They have had over seven hundred and sixty three women four hundred and twenty six children. And we are here today because they are going to make an even larger expansion on this site and we are here to cut the ribbons.

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Speaker 4: That's awesome. What a great program.

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Speaker 2: This is for.

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Speaker 3: I assume people, not just in Clay County, all around the area where people who have addiction issues can come, they can get treatment, but also be around their kids, which I think is an amazing thing. And that one of the great things about Volunteers of America all around the state of Kentucky.

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Speaker 2: We've been to events in Louisville, been here.

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Speaker 3: This is an effort that people from all across the political aisle, all across the state, city, rural, they all come together for this and in my opinion, these are the things that are the best of Kentucky.

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Speaker 2: And I appreciate you all having us here this morning.

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Speaker 3: And we are in Manchester, we are in Clay County, the heart of eastern Kentucky right here. You gotta want to get here. And I was on a road today that I've never been on. That was beautiful. This four fifty two out here. Now it's that's a little windy. Not quite like going to Buckhorn, but it's a little windy. And Ryan, we're in Clay County and you are wearing a very tight jersey today.

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Speaker 4: This jersey fits me like a glove I like to play right now. This is the legendary Richie Farmer number thirty two Clay County jersey I'm wearing.

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Speaker 2: But what size did they give me?

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Speaker 5: I don't think it Richie ever wore that.

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Speaker 3: I remember Richie being a little chubby in high school, but you didn't look like this.

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Speaker 5: It looks like that the kid in teen Wolf.

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Speaker 4: No oh yeah, the big guy in teen Wolf.

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Speaker 6: I'm not gonna say, I like can Usu the f wor but chubby yeah and teen Wolf.

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, but you've but listen, you're a good sport and you're gonna be support sporting number thirty two the whole show.

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Speaker 4: We're an honor a pleasure to you know, celebrate the greatest basketball player in the history of Clay County Richie Farmer right here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and we have nineteen eighty seven, you know, the fortieth anniversary of this team coming here very soon.

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Speaker 2: Did you think you're that old?

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Speaker 3: Fortieth anniversary the eighty seven Clay County State championship team coming next year.

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Speaker 2: Great crowd here this morning.

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Speaker 7: Now.

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Speaker 3: So I came in from London and I'm used to coming to the city, which is you would go through the how Rogers Parkway. So this is a This was a new way for me, and I was thinking on the drive, man, this is really windy. But even more funny, Shannon, is that last night our guy Mario, he put in the wrong address for the hotel.

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Speaker 2: He put in this address. So he drove that road last night and.

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Speaker 3: He came, I'm here last night now for people load of you listening, we have no cell phone coverage right here. And so Mario was here in Clay County lost late at night. He got he I called him and I could hear the panic in his voice. He was like, it's really dark here. I'm gonna try to find my way back, but I don't have service. And we almost said to Shannon, come rescue you.

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Speaker 6: And I were sitting there last night watching the NFL Draft and starting to get later tonight, and we're going, where's Mario at?

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Speaker 5: And I go, well, he probably just left a little late.

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Speaker 6: No, he went an hour out of his way, thirty minutes out of the way, thirty minutes back and ended up here, got.

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Speaker 2: Lost in and got lost in Clay County.

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Speaker 3: But he's here now. And let me just say, you guys, what a great crowd Clay County. We've done many things here over the years, from this show to wrestling, and people always come out and we appreciate it. So thank you all very much, Billy. A lot of stuff to get to today. Probably the biggest story is is the Knuckleheads won. Yes, yeah, Well they got some people who rely on state funding here, so they're trying to not be too loud. But yesterday, right after the show, the thing I hinted at in the morning ended up coming true.

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Speaker 2: Mitch Barnhart, the contract was.

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Speaker 3: Ripped up for the post career position at UK five years, a million dollars a year ripped up. Mitch Barnhart announced that he had decided to to not take the position.

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Speaker 2: I mean, everybody can say what they want. I don't think that was completely what happened.

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Speaker 3: But and Eli Cappeluto and his statement said he didn't say what he was gonna still paying, but he did say insinuated they were gonna pay something.

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Speaker 2: And Eli said, I'm going to personally raise it.

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Speaker 3: I'm interested who's given money for that. But amazingly the complaints and sort of the questions about why that contract was given, it worked and it ended up going away.

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Speaker 8: It wasn't just a vocal minority when Andy Basheer got involved. I think that's why you saw the decision made. And look, I mean there were real questions what the job duties were, why he would take this when there were cuts in other departments. So it started with a couple knuckleheads that I know well.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I do think Ryan it's axample of how like you could in today's world you can put public pressure. I mean, it started with a couple of knuckleheads with Drew and I but also fans online going wait a minute, this doesn't make sense.

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Speaker 2: What's the job they're gonna do? And they kept not answering the question, they kept trying to avoid it.

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Speaker 3: It just built up steam built up steam, and then when Basher, I think got in that was the final straw, and I think, in my opinion, they just sacrificed Barnhart so that they could keep the law school dean and everybody could kind of move on.

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Speaker 2: That's kind of what I think happened. But were you surprised.

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Speaker 4: I was a little surprised. But like we said yesterday, at least maybe they're doing a little cya good pr We're gonna fall on the sword and rip this up because it's stunk. It was. It was a horrible situation, but you bring it up, kind of got it in the forefront, and then Brett Setzer kind of with it.

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Speaker 3: Brett Setzer, that was a big part of it, having one of the biggest donors.

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Speaker 2: I forgot about that. Glad you brought that up.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and then when the governor, the governor or state gets on board with it and try to expose that this deal is kind of stinky.

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Speaker 3: But well, I mean, look, it was a perfect The problem was there was nobody for it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Like, seriously, if.

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Speaker 3: You think about all the people involved in a university decision, you have the faculty at the school, they were against it. They're like, you're cutting everything at this school and you're gonna do this right, You had the media going, what in the world's going on, You had fans who didn't like it. Then you now then with Brett Setster, you had big donors who didn't like it. Then all of a sudden, you get the governor who doesn't like it. There was nobody really shannon for it, and so at that point, I don't think there was any way it could start.

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Speaker 6: It's sort of a shame, though, that nobody from within and said something about this first. It had to be the media in this case, us calling this situation what it was.

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Speaker 5: It stuck.

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Speaker 6: We knew that, and nobody else was saying anything. It took us to basically bring this up to where it is now.

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Speaker 3: All right, So for the future, here's where I think it matters going forward, all right, As everybody knows, they got to get an ad and I think Mitch Barnhart did a very good job at Kentucky for most of his time.

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Speaker 2: But now it's a new world of.

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Speaker 3: College basketball, in college football, it's a new world where money is at the forefront.

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Speaker 2: It was always at.

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Speaker 3: The forefront, but now it's explicit. You've got to be able to kind of push the envelope e center right. Here's how I read that happening yesterday. I think Mitch Barnhart created an athletic department in his image. If you listen to the interview that I did with Kyle Tucker yesterday on Interrupted, he talks about this everyone in the athletic department, and I like all these people, they all kind of were in his image. A lot of them went to church together, a lot of them like they just kind of all like he hired.

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Speaker 2: People like himself.

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Speaker 3: With that being cut off and them ending his association with the school, Ryan, I think it's also symbolic of a break now from the Barnhart era. I think it would be very surprising if they hire an AD that was under him.

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Speaker 2: Wouldn't you agree with that?

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Speaker 4: I think so. I think the program just needs a breath the fresh air, like we saw at the football program.

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Speaker 3: But don't you think that that move kind of means they're going outside of UK and outside of the Barnhart tree for an ad.

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Speaker 4: I think so. You know, we all agree Barnhart did great things for athletic programs at Kentucky, but as far as the inner workings of the athletic program. That's what needs I think a fresh breath to come in and read maybe a younger go getter guy or gal.

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Speaker 2: I think we perably don't say gall.

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Speaker 5: He doesn't like that word.

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Speaker 4: I know he didn't like that word.

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't think they.

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Speaker 3: I don't think that if the next ad, I don't think you want to show up at the press conference and go hey Gal.

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Speaker 2: I know I think you would just give like you know, but when.

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Speaker 6: Somebody retires, though, and you're trying to to start fresh, you don't want that influence sort of hovering over. And I think that's what would have definitely happened if Barnhart took that position. His influence do would have been there.

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Speaker 3: So I will say I wish Mitch the best. I think he did a lot of stuff here. This is I think yesterday was a symbolic break. There was a period after probation in football when Mitch Barnhardt was brought in, and there was a certain that era which was now almost twenty five years Yeah, right, I do that. I think it officially ended yesterday. I now think you're going to see a completely new era. They're going to bring completely different kinds of people in here and we'll see if it's better or worse.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, but that to me is what happened yesterday.

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Speaker 3: And then secondly, some reports came out of which I can confirm. I wanted somebody else to be the first one to put it out that Kentucky Basketball is still trying to hire Jamal Crawford as their assistant coach. Now, some of you may remember Jamal Crawford as an NBA player, good NBA player, really like a beloved player kind of in the basketball community. He does games for Amazon, so if you watch the playoff games, he's one of the announcers Kentucky has. Two weeks ago offered him that final assistant coach position.

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Speaker 2: He turned him down.

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Speaker 3: Then they came back about a week ago and said, will you reconsider, And now apparently he is actually really reconsidering. The problem is he's calling these playoff games, so he's traveling around.

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Speaker 2: Why does it matter?

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Speaker 3: Well, Ay, I think he would add a coolness factor that I think we can all agree. Maybe Mark Pope is not the coolest guy in the world, but b he's very close with Tyron Stokes and you know Ryan, I actually think part of why you're trying to hire. Crawford is to be the final piece that could get Tyron Stokes to actually come here. I would want him either way. But what do you think of the news he's still considering job.

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Speaker 4: I guess we know why that spot's been not fit.

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Speaker 3: And that would make sense why no one's been hired. We've sit here and said, why is there not another assistant that would be the.

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Speaker 4: Ruson if they're trying to really pursue him. You got him, You've got Mo wins on staff who has a connection to Stokes. You got Zoom Diallo and your roster who has a connection to Stokes. Maybe this could be the final piece that even Stokes is waiting on to see. If they hired Jamal.

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Speaker 6: Crass, knowing what you just said, I think if he can make that higher, that could be the hier that saves Mark Pope's job.

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Speaker 5: Because some things don't go well and you don't get Stokes next year.

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Speaker 3: But even if they don't, I have to say, Billy, I mean, I I like everyone here I am sure wants Mark Pope to succeed. Everybody like that's part every single person wants him to succeed.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we all want to see it work.

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Speaker 3: The biggest weakness that I think Pope has had on the recruiting trail is that it's like milk salesman coming to try to get people to like.

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Speaker 2: It's just a it's a nerdy staff.

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Speaker 3: And they have now replaced one with Mo Williams, who everybody will say is cool.

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Speaker 2: And you could do the same with Jamal Crawford, and now you can kind of balance that.

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Speaker 3: I think it could be a great hire for them if they can do it, regardless of whether they get tired.

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Speaker 8: Oh Williams an NBA champion, Jamal Crawford winning six Man of the Year all those years. I mean that would relate to younger kids and help Mark Pope in an area that he has struggled in. So are you guys still holding out on Stokes?

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Speaker 2: Like?

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Speaker 4: Where are we on this?

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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not holding out, but I think the Internet has given up too quickly on him.

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Speaker 2: I don't I'm not saying we're gonna get him.

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Speaker 3: I have no idea, but I will tell you UK still as of yesterday, thinks they can get him. They're still like holding waiting trying to make it happen. Now they believe, or at least they did believe that he would decide something by the end of this week. Looking at the calendar, that's today. So if they I think, if he doesn't, then UK.

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Speaker 2: Might at some point just have to go. Look, we can't keep waiting, but I do Ryan think they think they have a shot.

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Speaker 4: N this could you turn things around for Pope. You hired Crawford, that brings in Stokes, everything changes overnight.

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Speaker 3: I think if you bring in Stokes, this fan base will be Shannon Stoked ye for next year. It would be like there would be there would be an excitement that this group really needs.

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Speaker 6: Does There's been a lot of negativity in the off season from the fans, which I understand, but if you get the number one player, then all of a sudden, I think that changes the narrative for the off season and that's important for Mark Pope going into the season.

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Speaker 2: Sure, I agree.

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Speaker 3: We are hearing Clay County at the Freedom House cutting the ribbon on a big expansion.

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Speaker 2: When this is done, they'll be able to serve more than three hundred.

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Speaker 3: Women and children annually with the Volunteers of America, which is an absolutely awesome thing for our state. We will take a break and come back. Great crowd here in Clay County on a perfect day's KSR working back. It is Kentucky Sports Radio here live in Manchester at the Volunteers of America Mid States. We think the First National Bank of Manchester. All right, hey, come on now, the Dave Flannery Veterans support fun and the People's Rural Telephone Cooperative for all sponsoring this.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you can give them a right as.

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Speaker 3: A couple of things here first of all, right next to us, Ryan is it looks like Calvary Baptist Church. And as soon as I've pulled up at him, now keeps playing in my hand at cow.

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Speaker 5: Uh murder burder, burder, burb berber.

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Speaker 2: Do you know that mur.

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Speaker 4: That sounds just like it.

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Speaker 2: You were bopping your head? You know which one I'm singing?

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Speaker 5: Has that replaced? God's up to something in your head?

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Speaker 6: Because last night at the hotel room, I heard you three different times singing God's I could out loud.

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Speaker 3: Now I'll be singing at Calvary here in uh in Manchester. One person writes, Matt, I want to ask Ryan and Mario are they still confident about their eyeballs?

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Speaker 2: From Wednesday night.

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Speaker 4: I'd say, not as confident as Oh wow, you're Cario.

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Speaker 2: You're still confident. Why are you not still confident?

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Speaker 4: Because man, this in the transfer portal world. Like I said, we said this gott with her mind overnight, but.

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Speaker 2: That was always true. You still put the eyeballs.

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Speaker 4: Out, but I didn't put a name out. That's what I was afraid.

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Speaker 2: But you said yesterday what the name was?

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Speaker 4: I didn't humbold Well, we got reports that the guy was in the bookstore buying his own You can't.

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Speaker 6: The reports were from Mario, I know, but why is he buying his own UK gear?

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Speaker 5: You get that stuff for free when you're on the team.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Uh. Also, by the way, in terms of the Barnhart thing, another person to give a shout out to is Linda Blackford, who wrote that big article.

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Speaker 2: Too that I think was uh uh, that was part of it.

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Speaker 3: The NFL draft started last night, just so people know, it goes tonight and tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: I looked at the final ESP and mock draft.

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Speaker 3: Kentucky has five guys projected to be drafted, and I don't think I don't think I realized that until I saw it. We didn't feel like a team that would have five guys drafted. But uh, Jaln Farmer, the offensive lineman, is projected to be our first pick, David Gusta, the defensive lineman, Jagger Burton, our center, is projected to be picked, and then seth McGowan the running back who was kind of on and off again hurt and Kendrick Law who we never threw the ball to ever, is also projected to be picked. So five guys potentially picked over the next couple of days.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you said that during the break. Kind of surprise, man, I knew our top three guys. I thought they were gonna get drafted, but I was a little surprised. Mcgallan and Farmer are in these mock drafts. They could probably find a spot on a ross.

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Speaker 3: Farmer might get picked today. Billy they have him potentially going in round two or three.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, and Jagger's gotten a lot of hype in this process. David Gusta was the one that had the video of doing the bench press and he was hitting a lot of them. First time in a decade that the SEC didn't have the most first run y.

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Speaker 3: Yes see, Now, I think that's actually a really interesting side note story, for the first time in twelve years, the SEC did not have the most first round draft picks. If you want to see the difference that nil is making, the fact that the SEC did not have the most first round picks and the only one more than the ACC. So Shannon, you're seeing that now that everybody has money, the talent is spreading around amongst the top schools, which I think ultimately is good for Kentucky football. I think it's good. That means we can get some guys. We're not playing against rosters that are loaded like they used to be. But it was interesting. This is the first time in twelve years.

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Speaker 6: Not only good for Kentucky football, I think it's good for college football just in general, because you know, Alabama would hoard guys and you would have like the seventieth player on the team who could play somewhere else and make a lot of good money, and we're at good players, but we're you know, on the bench there for an Alabama team.

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Speaker 5: So when you have that about the talent, when.

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Speaker 3: You have the Big Ten had the most, when you have the ACC and the Big twelve having a basically the same amount as the SEC, it's kind of a.

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Speaker 2: Different world in college football. Who's a first God, Noah of first? Noah, go ahead, Noah.

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Speaker 9: Hey man, thank you guys for taking my call regarding from the Mitch situation. Really glad to see they actually made a good decision from on that. On the other side of it, I'm a little disappointed we're not gonna get an epic mooment on the first game of the basketball season with a random fans sitting behind Tom Hart on the ESCN broadcast with a big sign with like a Rihanna cover album poster with Mitch's head on the front that has the caption.

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Speaker 2: Of Mitch better have my money. I appreciate the call.

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Speaker 3: I think ultimately part of the reason this happened in Ryan is they didn't want this to linger, the Barnhart thing. I mean, they didn't want it to linger. Now here's my question. They did say they were gonna pay him a severance. How much do you think it is? And do you think they let him keep the tickets? They didn't announce whether or not he was keeping the tickets.

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Speaker 4: You know, I'm okay with two tickets him and his wife lifetime tickets.

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Speaker 2: He did great.

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Speaker 4: Things at that university. I'm okay with two tickets, Okay with two tickets to football, I'm okay with two tickets to all the sports.

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Speaker 2: What's nice of you?

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Speaker 4: I mean, I think I think he's deserving of him somewhat of a severance package. I think he did great things, but the money wise.

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Speaker 6: He didn't need ten either. And I must stand up for Drew because he's not here. And that's the thing that really stuck in Drew's krawl.

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Speaker 2: Why do you need ten?

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Speaker 3: Like?

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Speaker 5: How many?

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Speaker 2: Like how many people you got in your life, all your friends and family.

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Speaker 5: I don't have ten friends I would even want to go with.

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Speaker 3: I agree, I do wonder if you're if you're a donor and Eli Capeluno comes to you and goes, all right, can you give me one hundred thousand dollars to hand to Mitch Barnhart as he walks out the door.

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Speaker 2: How many people are gonna say yes to that?

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Speaker 4: I don't think there's a lot of supporters on the Mitch Barnhart side at this point. That may be kind of tough to come up with. Because Bert Copolitto said he's gonna come up with the money himself.

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Speaker 3: He says, I'm gonna come up with the money personally to go and get it.

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Speaker 6: So I didn't know if he was gonna raise that or if he was just gonna hand it out of his own bank account to him.

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Speaker 3: You're right assuming thinks he's gonna raise it. But it is interesting because I think that'll actually not be easy money to raise.

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Speaker 10: Who's next, Brandon, Go ahead, Brandon, Hey fellas with this transfer portal, I feel like we're in the movie Major League all the time, and we're looking at our roster and going who are these guys?

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Speaker 9: And then almost like the owners are looking at it and they're looking at the whole list, and somebody goes, oh, that.

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Speaker 2: Guy's dead, we'll cross him off. Then. I mean, I think we're at that point where, first of all, I appreciate the call.

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Speaker 3: I think part of the reason our roster is turning over so much is Pope's got to do a better job of retaining people.

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Speaker 2: I mean, look at Florida. Florida's bringing back their entire rost.

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Speaker 3: Amazing, Florida's bringing back their entire roster from a team that was really good. Yep, Duke, A bunch of dudes for Duke are coming back a bunch of dudes for Arizona are coming back. A lot of these other schools, Billy are getting people to come back. We part of what happened with is he recruited about five guys that he thought would come back. He thought he was gonna have another year at Jalen Lowe. He thought he was gonna have another year of Modiabate, He thought he was gonna have another year of Brandon Garrison.

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Speaker 2: He thought he was gonna have another year no, et cetera. And he expected all those players to improve.

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Speaker 3: And then the guys got hurt or didn't improve, and they don't bring him back.

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Speaker 2: And that's why there's such a turno.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, and when you don't have a ton of high school recruiting, then you have to go in the portal to fill those spots.

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Speaker 2: And I can't believe he got no high school players.

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Speaker 5: None done, none, none.

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Speaker 8: And we heard that maybe he had overpaid a little bit to keep some of those guys there. And now they're not seeing year three guys like Brandon Garrison or Colin Chandler.

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Speaker 5: That's disappointed.

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Speaker 3: Does that still have just for people to know we still need like five players, We still have a lot of spots open, and there's only a handful of players left in the port left in the top players of the portal, and we only have.

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Speaker 2: What six roster spots film. I mean, we still got a lot of dudes to go and get.

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Speaker 3: We'll take a break and be right back here in Clay County and Volunteers America. This is Kentucky Sports Radio work come back. It is Kentucky's sports radio here live in Manchester at the Freedom House, operated by Volunteers of America, only residential recovery program in the state for mothers and their children who can live together. We just saw, was it Braden Bryson four weeks old?

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Speaker 7: Who?

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Speaker 11: Uh?

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Speaker 2: Who's whose? Mother is here?

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Speaker 3: And then walking walking around with the baby's not walking around? She asked if I wanted to hold the baby.

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Speaker 2: I'm I'm I'm man Ti. I don't want to drop babies.

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Speaker 5: I don't want that liability. I understand.

00:23:31
Speaker 4: I know neither.

00:23:32
Speaker 2: That's the lawyer and me. I don't want to drop a baby.

00:23:35
Speaker 3: So I'll just, uh, you just stay over there and we'll and I'll cheer you on.

00:23:39
Speaker 2: All right, we do have to talk about it.

00:23:40
Speaker 3: I'm sorry before we go to the phones, I got to talk about the Mike Rambles situation. I mean, what for WHOA Okay, so this story story started two weeks ago. I mean we talked about it on cover zero. Billy just interlocking fingers, like two married people with interlocking fingers, and we were like, well, can you still be friends and interlocked fingers? And we said, well, I don't know if you can be friends and interlocked fingers.

00:24:05
Speaker 2: That feels a little intimate. But they both.

00:24:07
Speaker 3: Insisted their friends were there, and then nothing was going on. Then later pictures came out and the two and they were like sitting at a black jack table at a different time and kind of sitting close to each other, and then it started to fall apart. In the last forty eight hours, Vrabel announces he's going to skip day three of the draft to be with his family and go through counseling.

00:24:30
Speaker 2: Still a bizarre decision, like our families.

00:24:34
Speaker 3: Go through drownds one through three, but by round four we must now get counseling.

00:24:40
Speaker 2: Well, Mike, can you get it the next day?

00:24:42
Speaker 3: No, it has to start day three of the draft, not before or not after. And now we see why. As last night Shennon pictures come out from six years ago, six years ago of them making now at a bar years ago, and it comes out that that was six years ago in twenty twenty one, which was after that. She had a child and named it Mike.

00:25:13
Speaker 5: The story just gets better and better, and Ben.

00:25:15
Speaker 3: Had a child and named it the same name as Mike Rabel who she was kissing in a.

00:25:20
Speaker 2: Bar a year before.

00:25:23
Speaker 5: This story.

00:25:24
Speaker 3: Now now it's like and you got it, Like, part of me thinks, Shannon, it's not even all out yet. Uh So here's my question for you. Who was holding onto these pictures for six years? They've been holding onto these pictures for six years and then let it go.

00:25:40
Speaker 6: Do you think it was just some random fan who'd got a picture and goes, oh, there's Mike Rabel making out with some random person.

00:25:45
Speaker 2: See.

00:25:45
Speaker 3: I wonder if it's like since this started, somebody went, oh, yeah, we were at a bar one time, remember when we saw Rabel.

00:25:53
Speaker 6: Through six years of pictures in the cloud to find that one, and then how much do you sell that one for to the paper?

00:25:59
Speaker 2: I don't know.

00:25:59
Speaker 3: They went to the same paper as had the original ones, which is the New York Post.

00:26:04
Speaker 2: Ryan.

00:26:05
Speaker 3: I again, we saw it with Mitch Barnhardt in terms of the of the not explaining the contract, and now.

00:26:12
Speaker 2: We see it here.

00:26:13
Speaker 3: If you don't talk or you lie, you are asking for the story to be even bigger than it was.

00:26:22
Speaker 2: And that's what happened with this.

00:26:24
Speaker 4: Absolutely sad what happened with this. So why not? You know, you get busted, you gotta just right be a man, step up and like, yeah, I did it. You know this was bad as was wrong. I'm gonna go to Kampling immediately, not wait till day three of the draft.

00:26:35
Speaker 3: The day three of the draft, Billy is like I mean, basically, he's acknowledging that his family is worth a compensatory pick at the end of the third round. Like like he's like, you know, I'm still gotta pick my first and second round guys, but but the but for the fourth round, I'll pick my family.

00:26:51
Speaker 8: I really don't understand that because it makes it a football program. Now you're not in the building for an important day during the draft, and that just makes the story even bigger.

00:26:58
Speaker 2: But what sounded like he wasn't going to be around for a while.

00:27:01
Speaker 6: It makes the family, I'm sure feel unimportant. It would also make me as a player feel unimportant if I got picked in the fourth round and my coach isn't there because he's off to counseling.

00:27:11
Speaker 2: The story is crazy. Do you think there's I kind of think there's still more.

00:27:16
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, it's it's slowly unraveling, slow, the slow drip.

00:27:21
Speaker 3: I think, Ryan, there's just good. There's gonna be more and it and you know, now you see all these like there's an interview where Diana Russini is interviewing him and asking about his wife.

00:27:34
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, Or she's like, what's your favorite part of your birthday today so far?

00:27:38
Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean she's like asking and then she names the kid.

00:27:41
Speaker 6: Might the tweets they're digging back through now at that time.

00:27:45
Speaker 2: It's brutal. It's brutal.

00:27:46
Speaker 3: And all of this is in part because at the beginning they didn't just fess up to it, right.

00:27:51
Speaker 4: You know, it makes you wonder sometimes when things like this happen, other women may come step forward. You know, this could really blow up in his face quickly.

00:27:59
Speaker 5: Already had.

00:28:01
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the video from six years ago is the one that really takes him down.

00:28:06
Speaker 2: Who's next?

00:28:07
Speaker 4: Meghan? Is next?

00:28:08
Speaker 2: Megan? Go ahead?

00:28:09
Speaker 12: Megan, Hi, Matt, thank you all for taking my call. I just wanted to give a shout out to today. My grandfather will be ninety tomorrow, his ninetieth birthday tomorrow. And I know you don't normally do this, but he was actually on RUP's nineteen fifty eight championship team and so he's a huge UK fan and tomorrow.

00:28:31
Speaker 2: What was that way if he was on the fifty eighteen what's his name?

00:28:36
Speaker 12: Harold Ross? Oh my goodes, he did not play very much.

00:28:40
Speaker 2: Wait man, sorry his mic was down. You went, oh my goodness. Why.

00:28:44
Speaker 4: I just watched a thing on Harold Ross last night that Mike Millory did at Channel six and Paduca did a one on one sit down with Harold Ross on his front porch. I just watched it last night.

00:28:57
Speaker 12: I was right there beside him when they were doing that.

00:29:00
Speaker 2: Well, there you go.

00:29:01
Speaker 4: I encourage you. You know, this is a national champion from nineteen fifty eight, one of the few still living. Go back and listen to his days playing for UP. It's fascinating, it's wonderful. Go go listen to it.

00:29:10
Speaker 3: Well, Happy birthday to uh to Harold, Happy ninetieth birthday. And I appreciate you calling in. Thank you why you were very you were very excited.

00:29:21
Speaker 4: Well, my buddy Mike Mallo ol there in Paduca, he did this, he was product. So we sent it to me. So I watched it last night before I went to bed, and it's it is man, it's a time gone by, the nineteen fifty eighteen. Those guys at what they did, then went through and he's got a championship.

00:29:33
Speaker 2: To beat elgin Balor. It's right, okay Fiddland five, Yeah, who's up next? Fake Barney is up next? Fake Barney, go ahead?

00:29:43
Speaker 7: Oopsin Pope with a gin can get clear to the sun. Will holding the pin. He's one of the sun. Puts a bell, but he's gotta stuff be horny like he's got milk to se because to louse Robb the sun to be the Chris Queen, Corey mcgoon, Jason, Terrence Cruise, Anthony, Bryce Kwammy, David Devin Sivin and feel and Deally brand in mouths oh no, baby baby oop both did it again. He loves the recruit. He needs a dm oh baby baby oop. Our roster is broke. We need Tyron Stone to be beautiful and magnificent.

00:30:31
Speaker 2: Wow, Faith whoa.

00:30:34
Speaker 3: I have to tell you that was listening to that while watching the crowd in Clay County's face. There was a huge like there were people laughing, there were people very perplexed at what was going on.

00:30:46
Speaker 5: A lot of confusion.

00:30:47
Speaker 2: There was a lot of confusion. So I appreciate the cola.

00:30:52
Speaker 3: I thought that was funny, but it was equally as funny was looking at the people who are like, what is happening?

00:30:57
Speaker 5: It's a great remix.

00:30:58
Speaker 6: It's funny because you and I were telling Mario about some of the callers we used to get fake callers, like making Barney.

00:31:03
Speaker 5: I haven't heard from Barney in forever.

00:31:04
Speaker 2: I will say Ryan.

00:31:07
Speaker 3: The internet is full of videos and comments about Pope's recruiting. A guy did a skit which I'm not tweeting because I don't want to get this great. But a guy, whoever you are, that did the skit where you were acting like Mark Pope on a recruiting visit. I mean, I didn't want to laugh, but sometimes you have to laugh so you don't cry.

00:31:32
Speaker 2: It was pretty funny. Have you seen that.

00:31:34
Speaker 4: I've seen it. I'm like you, I didn't want to retweet it, but I watched it and I feel guilty. I laughed several times.

00:31:39
Speaker 2: We all watched it, and we didn't want to laugh.

00:31:42
Speaker 3: But it is kind of funny about what Mark Pope's recruiting visits must be like.

00:31:46
Speaker 5: You put the bald cap on a bald cap on.

00:31:49
Speaker 8: Well, Kyle Tucker mentioned it in your interview that Kentucky is getting laughed at right now.

00:31:53
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's unfortunate. Who's next? Dennis is next? Dennis? Go ahead, Dennis.

00:32:00
Speaker 11: Hey, A couple of things here. Number one, in my opinion, if the college program is going after an assistant coach just to get a player, that's very unethical.

00:32:12
Speaker 2: Why why well, why do you say that? Why is it unethical?

00:32:14
Speaker 3: I mean, if we're allowed to pay players directly, what's wrong with having a coach that the player likes.

00:32:23
Speaker 11: You don't see that that's unethical just to hire somebody just to get player.

00:32:27
Speaker 2: I don't.

00:32:28
Speaker 3: Well, first of all, first of all, first of all, Kentucky's done that many times in history.

00:32:33
Speaker 2: Okay, so this would this would not be why well?

00:32:37
Speaker 3: Well, first, first of all, are you a Kentucky fan?

00:32:43
Speaker 11: I grew up a huge Kentucky basketball fan. But are you, but I'm no, I'm no longer a college basketball fan. I'm okay fan, but I'm no longer a college Okay, now.

00:32:54
Speaker 2: Wait a minute, hang on.

00:32:56
Speaker 3: If you're a college football fan, you realize every school in America has hired assistant coach to get college to get called high school football played.

00:33:05
Speaker 2: Like every one of them.

00:33:06
Speaker 3: You picked the school, They have hired someone to get people to play there at every school in America.

00:33:14
Speaker 11: But does two wrongs make it right? I always hear two wrongs never made it right.

00:33:17
Speaker 3: Okay, But you're saying that Kentucky basketball is looked at a certain way because of it everything every school has done that, every single one of them.

00:33:29
Speaker 11: You ever you ever you ever watched Dan Dockage.

00:33:32
Speaker 2: Okay, there we go. You're a Dan Dockege fan. I mean is that really? Are you really?

00:33:36
Speaker 3: Is that what you're gonna use? Is your example of ethics going to be Dan Dockitch.

00:33:44
Speaker 11: No, I'm just saying that that's what a lot of people they think like him. I'm not saying I think like him. But there's a perception. If you don't think there's a perception of hide to Kentucky. The Kentucky's corrupt basketball program.

00:33:55
Speaker 3: Then okay, do you think Kentucky Do you think Kentucky is corrupt under Mark Pope?

00:34:01
Speaker 5: No?

00:34:02
Speaker 2: Okay, so then what are you arguing?

00:34:05
Speaker 11: But that don't choose. But if he goes out hires an assistant coach just to get a player, in my opinions, he will.

00:34:11
Speaker 2: Become if he does that.

00:34:14
Speaker 3: There's no way you're going to convince me he can go hand tiring Stokes legally eight million dollars, hand him eight million dollars.

00:34:24
Speaker 2: Or he could hire a coach.

00:34:25
Speaker 3: Stokes is comfortable with pay him six hundred thousand dollars. And you're telling me the six hundred thousand dollars higher is less ethical than the eight million dollars handed to the kid.

00:34:38
Speaker 11: It's not the money, it's it's that you're hiring somebody. You're not hiring that person for them to actually do a job. You're actually you're just hiring that person just to get somebody. That's just the I don't understand why somebody cain't he's the wrong in that.

00:34:53
Speaker 2: Well, I don't, but I appreciate the call.

00:34:56
Speaker 3: And uh, it sounds like you were a big I mean, if you don't like college basketball, why do you care anyway?

00:35:01
Speaker 4: I mean, if they do end up hiring Jamal Crawford, Stokes is not the only recruit he's gonna help recruit to Kentuck. He's gonna bring in several recruits to Kentuck.

00:35:09
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say to you, I'm fine, Shannon, if you get Jamal Crawford, even if it doesn't get you tiring Stokes. You're getting an NBA player that clearly is bright. He's on television doing games, so he clearly understands the game, or he couldn't do that.

00:35:24
Speaker 2: I see no problem.

00:35:25
Speaker 3: I mean, if we don't hire him, we're probably gonna have to hire someone no one's ever heard of.

00:35:29
Speaker 2: So what difference is.

00:35:30
Speaker 6: He's still gonna do a job for you. It's like he's gonna have a golden parachute and eat hey. He's gonna do a job for you.

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00:36:07
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00:36:12
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00:36:15
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00:36:49
Speaker 2: So here's my question. Let's play the game of should this be illegal or not? All right?

00:36:54
Speaker 4: Courts in session courts in sessions.

00:36:56
Speaker 2: Should this be illegal or not?

00:36:57
Speaker 3: One of the us uh SEE that went into Venezuela when they went and got the Venezuelan president Maduro, he was one of the people that captured him on the mission. Right before he went on the mission, he is alleged to have gone on one of these polymarket places and there was a thing of will Maduro be captured and overthrown? He bet on the answer as yes, right before he got on the helicopter to go.

00:37:25
Speaker 2: Take him out.

00:37:27
Speaker 3: So he bet knowing that he was about to go and do it.

00:37:33
Speaker 2: He has now been arrested.

00:37:36
Speaker 3: I tried to read what his charges were and I couldn't find it in the story. But basically he's being arrested. So here's my question. Should people in the military be able to bet on whether or not a military action is going to happen if they are part of the group actually doing the action.

00:37:54
Speaker 4: I think this is so illegal. I don't know what he's gonna be charged. You got charge that dude with something to give up a potial military exercise and potentially give it secrets away that puts ourselves safety in jeopardy. Illegal.

00:38:09
Speaker 6: I've been told all my life bet on yourself. I feel like that's what this guy did.

00:38:14
Speaker 3: I mean, he was to be fair, he was betting that they would be successful. He didn't bet against it being successful. Yeah, he didn't bet on it being success.

00:38:23
Speaker 6: I mean, I guess I look at it as like an NBA player betting on themselves on DraftKings.

00:38:27
Speaker 5: I don't think you should be allowed to do that.

00:38:29
Speaker 6: So I guess my answer is going to be no, I don't think you should be allowed to do that.

00:38:33
Speaker 8: Yeah, just like you said, Shannon, like a player betting on DraftKings. I don't think that's ethical for the military member to be sharing secrets about a military operation.

00:38:41
Speaker 3: If I was, If I was the military, I'd be really upset about it because think about if your other countries and you see these betting markets, and you go, wait a minute, why, all of a sudden, has there been a five hundred thousand dollars bet on us being overthrown? Oh wait, maybe they're coming. Like I do think it's a good way. I mean, if if people are putting that kind of dollars on it, and you and I don't know if you remember when they did this, the market moved like in the.

00:39:12
Speaker 2: Twelve hours before they went and do it. Did it?

00:39:15
Speaker 3: The market moved like way up, like it was gonna happen. You're almost putting them on notice. So actually, if I was the military, I'd be extremely worried about about that kind of thing.

00:39:25
Speaker 6: You're tipping them off. You're also putting your own soldiers in danger.

00:39:29
Speaker 2: Like exact question, what if.

00:39:31
Speaker 3: Something had gone wrong during that, right, Like, what if something had gone wrong? I mean this, dude, they would be a completely different story if it was that. So you all all think should be illegal?

00:39:41
Speaker 4: Dude, I think so. I mean anything that jeopardizes a military operation like that, I mean, it's what.

00:39:50
Speaker 2: I would say, it should be illegal.

00:39:52
Speaker 3: Also know, but go ahead and throw in when congress people do the same thing with their because there's a lot of them on both sides that do that all the time.

00:40:00
Speaker 2: Who's up next, Jared is up next? Jared? Go ahead, Jared.

00:40:05
Speaker 13: Hey, Matt, thanks for taking my call. So I want to start by saying, we all want Mark Pope to do well. We will all want him to succeed and to bring number nine and ten and eleven and however many more. But whether you want him gone or whether you want him to stay for the next you know, five ten years. At the end of the day, as it stands now, he is firing himself. And what I mean by that is he is doing things that he cannot explain later if he does not win. He's not using the current nil valuation system that Kentucky paid for. He's not hiring a GM. He has terrible pr whether it's being horrible on interviews and just having a weird personality or giving fans the silent treatment. And most of all, he's not winning. So at the end of the day, at the end of this season, if we lose twelve games, he's not going to be able to explain.

00:40:58
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I.

00:40:58
Speaker 3: Think I don't totally disagree with what you're saying, and I appreciate the call. I mean, this is the way I put it with Kyle Tucker the other day. If Mark Pope goes to the Elite eight or the Final four, Ryne, it won't matter what he did. He'll be fine, right he can. He can walk around and not speak to anyone, And if we go to the Final four, nobody's gonna care.

00:41:18
Speaker 2: I agree with that winning cures everyone. Winning cures everything.

00:41:21
Speaker 3: If we missed the tournament or lose in the first round, it's not gonna matter how nice he is.

00:41:27
Speaker 2: People are gonna be ready to get to make a change.

00:41:30
Speaker 3: The question is what happens when you're in the middle, right, what happens when you lose in the second round or the sweet sixteen then all of a sudden, all this other stuff I actually think matters more to people, And I think he's just giving himself to where he doesn't have a lot of leeway. They're gonna have to win next year and right now they don't have a lot of players yet.

00:41:50
Speaker 4: If he said it's kind of make a break season for him and he's got to go all in on Stokes or get some players because it could be a His entire career can depend on what they do season.

00:42:00
Speaker 3: But we could have a situation where when we come back on this show Monday, if he's if Stokes is committed here, everybody's gonna be good.

00:42:08
Speaker 2: We'll be the first time in twelve years we've had the number one player in America come here. So we'll see it's kind of feast or famine.

00:42:15
Speaker 3: We will take a break and be right back our number two here in Manchester.

00:42:18
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