2025-12-17- KSR - Hour 1

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Speaker 2: Now here's Matt Jones.

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Speaker 4: Welcome everyone. It is Kentucky Sports Radio. Wednesday, December the seventeenth. I am Matt Jones here in the studio in Lexington, Kentucky. You can give a Shallnaclocks puppet Shop full line eight five to nine two eight oh twenty two eighty seven. A Vision Autoglass text machine is seven seven two four five two five four in the session sponsored by the Tjsmith Office called TJ He'll make them pay. It has been uh a disaster for the workforce of Kentucky Sports Radio. They're just falling like flies. In the last few days.

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Speaker 2: What's going on?

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Speaker 4: You know? Ryan, he had a wreck, so he's okay, but he's out. Drew can't move because of his back, the back per capita injuries for this show with me and him both, so he's out. We were going to have a guest, but he got pulled today for reasons I can't even go into. It's crazy, like they drop like flies when when it's Annabelle, I guess yeah, So it's me and you old school, this is the way it was. And what year did you start with KOSR Shannon?

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Speaker 2: Twenty eleven, March eleven.

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Speaker 4: So year one was me and Zach and then Shannon came on in twenty eleven. We've talked a lot about the historic first day where both of us at the end demanded to not work with the other one. And uh, but we did a period of time where it's just me and you, right, just me and you sitting here, and we tried people out. Do you remember who all we tried out back then? I tried out, tried it out. It's not fair. It was just kind of see what the vibe was like. Let's who were some people back when? Mark Krubbs, Mark krebs Is when we used.

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Speaker 2: A lot paren Johnson parent.

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Speaker 4: We used a lot who's now a salesperson for our Heart, you know that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's right around the corner here.

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Speaker 4: Mike.

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Speaker 2: Mike Pratt used to come.

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Speaker 4: Mike Pratt would come in quite a bit. Those were probably the three major ones, but we had a lot more come in wukash or Zoot. Yeah, my friend Jottie Bruce came in a couple of days. We had a lot of random people romans, that's right. And then one day Ryan came in and you know, you see that intellect.

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Speaker 2: Rus was history. After all.

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Speaker 4: I can't let it go when you have that intellect, Shannon, you can't let that go.

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Speaker 2: That's right. That's true talent right there.

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Speaker 4: That's true talent. You can't say. So then we were like, okay, that's it. But there was a lot of period that was me and you, and so today is almost an old school Matt and Shannon day kind of like back then. I used to be able to look through a window and see you. Yeah, now I can't do that anymore, but I'm looking through this camera screen and seeing you. Mario's roaming around behind. We didn't have a Mario. Back then, we did have Maria answering the phoka. Yea, my Maria who now is one of the executives at on three Sports, which is really an amazing thing for people. She came up to me at an Alabama Vanderbilt game basketball. She was a former UK student working in the media department at Vandy, and she said, I'm going to be moving back to Louisville. There's anything I can do, let me And it was the perfect timing because I was like, well, we need somebody to answer the phones. You want to come answer the phones? And now she is like one of the higher ups at on three Sports. Isn't that crazy?

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Speaker 2: Great story?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: It is.

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Speaker 3: I would love to have somebody in her answer in the phones for me right now because I have to do it all by myself now. But yeah, that is a great story that you know, just from a conversation comes into came to me.

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Speaker 4: She seemed very nice, she was helping me. I was working for CBS Sports and I was doing the Alabama Van d basketball game, and she worked in the Vandy sports relations department starting now many years later. So I mean, it's a very cool. You never know what's gonna happen, Shannon, the dude, that's right, And.

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Speaker 3: I think just for old time's sake, that you should pull up your Facebook and give some shout outs for birthdays because we used.

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Speaker 6: To do this.

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Speaker 3: That was the worst gimmick in radio history, and for some reason we thought was day because nobody knew who you were talking about except for the person, and they probably won't even listening to the show to begin with.

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Speaker 2: It was just a racking person.

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Speaker 4: Sure, but I would just go through my Facebook and if it was somebody's birthday, I would say, this is somebody's birthday.

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, but no, but nobody cares.

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Speaker 4: I understand. Well, let me see whose birthday it is today? All right, Fine, you've already ruined the gimmick.

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Speaker 2: Can you even still do that on face?

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Speaker 4: I don't know if you can. Eight. I'm nine two eight oh twenty two eighty seven. So we're gonna make this and ask anything Wednesday because it's just the two of us. If you have a question for me or Shannon about any topic, I'm without Drew and Ryan here to hold me down. I'm gonna I will answer. Eight. F I'm nine two eight oh twenty two eighty seven ask anything Wednesday. We'll go through the day. There are things to get to but it's it's kind of a slow day, so I'd love this is a perfect time to get in. Trivia is tonight? I've uh. Yesterday I went for a walk. I walked by Bear and the Butcher in Lexington. Have you ever been to that bar down on off Ukland? I walked there they I walked in, uh, and they were having trivia, and so I got to listen to another person's trivia. It was fine, but like.

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Speaker 2: You weren't stealing their questions?

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Speaker 4: No, I mean because they ask one question, take five minutes. One question, take five minutes. It's a much harder process at the Matt Jones Trivia. But we are doing it tonight, so come on. It'll be the last one of the year and you can qualify for the finals. But eight nine two eight twenty two eighty seven, I'm finishing the questions today. If we're going to start with a UK sports thing, I think we have to start with the article today in the Herald Leader about Mitch Barnhart. He did an interview with the Harold Leader. It's it's a long one and I don't know if it's if it's behind the paywall or not. I'm not sure, Shannon, I have the paywall here? Can I read you real quick? The top stories on the Herald Leader.

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Speaker 2: Let's hear it because I don't have a subscription.

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Speaker 4: Here are the top stories. I'm looking at the top four stories on the hair Leader. Besides the Mitch Barnhart interview. Story one, it's here we designed our new app. That's the top story, sees it. Story two the reason a public store brand dessert got recalled in Florida. That's the number two story on the Herald Leader.

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Speaker 2: I thought we were supposed to be doing local topics.

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Speaker 4: We're talking number three, what is Trevor Lawrence's net worth as the Jaguars quarterback?

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Speaker 2: And why do I care?

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Speaker 4: Great question? And then number four Kentucky's rally and Nebraska's breakthrough national college hoops takeaways.

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Speaker 2: I'd love that.

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Speaker 4: That's your local newspaper. Here we go.

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm missing by not subscribing.

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Speaker 4: And then the next one is father charged with murder at Kentucky State. Well, that's local and serious. But then there's Mitch Barnhardt's interview. So it's a lot of words Mitch. Brevity is not one of his strong parts. I think we could say Shannon, he likes. He likes to say a lot of words here. I read it all I would suggest, like, first of all, he did their interview with Harro. I have asked him to come on this show that we have gotten no answer. We haven't gotten declined, but we have haven't gotten approved. I also have asked him to even talk potentially off the record. Haven't heard anything. So I've done all that I can. Haven't heard anything. He decides to do it with the Herald Leader just as a PR strategy. Shannon just simply a PR strategy. To me, this is an example of how behind they are. I don't say this to be rude, but I know how many subscribers the Harold Leader has now. I think it's sad that they don't have as many subscribers as they should, because we need in Kentucky a newspaper forget about sports, just for news. You need somebody Shannon covering the news of the state. And the Hair Leader in the Career Journal did that for a century, and the newspaper business it's tough. So I subscribe. I'll subscribe till they close the doors. With that said, if you're trying to get your message out, Shannon, wouldn't it make sense to go to the people that have the loudest microphone.

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Speaker 2: H Absolutely and definitely not high behind a pea wall.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I mean the hair Leader is just it's very nature going to be the place that gets significantly few reviews. With that said, that's who he talked to. I read all the interview. Mitch's does not speak directly. It is lots of words, often very little meaning. For me, there were two main questions I wanted to read out of that interview, and I didn't really get the answer to either one of them. Question one was basically, and the most important, does the deal with JMI make it to where we can still get basketball recruits right yesterday? And this timing is probably unfortunate. Christian Collins, So Kentucky, for if you're not following basketball recruiting, Kentucky has two guys that are amongst the best players in the country that it has been assumed for months we were going to get to top ten players that at various points people have just assumed we're going to Kentucky, Tyrone Stokes and Christian Collins again, if you haven't followed it. Duke has their guys, they've all signed. Carolina has their guys, they've signed, Kansas has their guys, they've signed. Everyone has signed except our guys. But the assumption has been we were going to get these two dudes. Christian Collins was the one that was seen to be a lock like done deal. People had already put out the gifts saying he's a cat. Yesterday the recruiting insiders all pulled their gifts from Christian Collins and basically said it's back open. Not good, right right?

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Speaker 2: Yeah. It makes you wonder what some of.

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Speaker 4: The recruiting insiders have basically said. He can't get a deal done with Kentucky. Now I don't know, because I'm not part of that process, but the recruiting people who that's what they do, they say so to me, that interview becomes even more important. I still would admit to you I don't totally understand UK's deal with JMI. I mean, I understand their deal, I don't understand how it pertains to the nilpiece. They've done away with the private collectives at UK. Most schools still have one. We do not We've done away with it. It's all in house, and Jami has this deal and Mitch tries to explain it in the article. I think Shannon, he uses so many words that I don't know what they mean. You know what I mean? When you just we just keep talking and so you don't understand.

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Speaker 2: Yep, yep, that's kind of.

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Speaker 4: How we talk.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes you just need it to be explained to you as if you were a fifth grader, like exactly.

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Speaker 4: And I could explain about sixty percent of the deal to everyone as a fifth grader, but I think it would be kind of boring. Maybe we'll do a podcast on it one time. Here is the question that matters the most. This is what matters the most as you're following this, there is one question that matters. In the article on Kentucky Sports Radio dot Com, agents are quoted as saying JMI is asking us to sign papers that these other schools are not restricting our ability to sign in AILE deals with non UK affiliated partners, and basically we're not doing that. Now that's the agent side, Channon, that's not UK side. So the next question is okay, UK? Is that true? Yes or no? And he doesn't.

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Speaker 2: Answer is nobody. So that wasn't even asked.

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Speaker 4: It's not asked, but he doesn't ask it directly. He says, are players prevented from signing with other UH non affiliated businesses? And Mitch says, no, that's not true. But that's not the question that is obvious. The question is when we recruit a player and we say we you will get this much money at UK because every school's doing that, Shannon right, They're going you'll get two million, you'll get two and a half, you'll get one whatever. When we have that conversation, are we forcing them to sign a document to get that money that no one else is The question is not once you're here, can you go get other stuff? I think everybody agrees the answer to that is yes. The question is when we are guaranteeing you the money to play here, and let's all be honest, that is what's happening. Are you free when you take that money to also go to do other things? UK will take a kid and let them do whatever they want, But the question is, with the guaranteed money, are you free to do what you want? Does that make sense? Yeah? Yeah, And that question is not answered in that article and it's not asked directly. It's asked whether or not they can do other things, but it's not asked can they do other things after that they've taken your money.

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Speaker 3: Clearly there has got to be something in there, because other schools, all these other blue bloods already have players already here, and we're the only one that still.

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Speaker 4: And we don't And I don't know the answer to that question, and they've not answer answered it. And then the second question that's not answered is are you coming back? Are you resigning? And I'm gonna read you after the break his answer on that one, because that's an amazing that's a yes or no? Are you going to be the ad next year? What would you say? Yes?

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Speaker 2: Yes or no?

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Speaker 4: Wait till I read you his answer, and tell me when it's over if you decipher a yes or a no.

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, all right?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So all I can say is I've told you what I know about it. I've parsed that article as best as I could. This morning. I couldn't really get an answer to either of those questions. I've asked him to come on here. They have not responded. I have to assume that means they're not going to at least now. But we've tried, and it is what it is. Eight if I'm nine, twenty two eighty seven, it's an ask anything Wednesday. We will take your questions. We will give you the answers, at least the best we know him. Next here on CHAOSO. Yeah, I can't find the birthdays anymore. They stopped doing that. I guess he was the only way I knew when people had birth No wait, sorry, found them all right? Pick a number one through eight seven seven. Happy birthday, Tom Vernisi?

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Speaker 2: Do you even know who that is?

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Speaker 4: Tom Vernisi went to Atherton High School, He was born in nineteen seventy six, and he is my friend on Facebook. I do not know him, but there's a picture of him today working on his car. Happy birthday to Tom.

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Speaker 2: Hope your car starts.

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Speaker 7: See.

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Speaker 4: I don't know why you thought that was a bad segment. That's a really good segment.

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Speaker 2: Do you accept people you don't know on Facebook?

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Speaker 4: As for me, I used to accept a lot of people out so I would say the fat like most of my friends on Facebook are people I accepted over a decade ago. But then they have a rule you can't have more than five thousand. So now if I accept you, I either know you or there's something about your profile where I'm like, gotta have this personal I delete people sometimes sometimes I say you or your I don't know you. We're gonna have and if you write me one mean thing, you're out. Yeah. I have a no tolerance policy on the friends because you only get five thousand.

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Speaker 3: Up right, And I feel like on Facebook is probably where I know the most people personally and actually tell them yeah.

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Speaker 2: More so than Twitter or anything else.

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Speaker 4: Ef I'm nine two eight twenty two eighty seven, what person says, I'll tell you one person whose birthday it is. It's my wife's grandmother, Myrtle Kimmel. She turns ninety two. They don't name kids Myrtle anymore.

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Speaker 2: No Myrtle.

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Speaker 4: They know. I don't know when Myrtle went around, and if I had a great aunt, I had a great aunt named Myrtle. I think there used to be a time there were a lot of.

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Speaker 2: Myrtles, Myrtle, Gertrude, Gertrude.

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Speaker 4: It's another way, Bertha, Well, Bertha, you know there kidding Bertha anymore.

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying, but Myrtle.

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Speaker 4: Is definitely like that one got lost somewhere and they don't. All right, I'm gonna read you Mitch Barnhart's answer before we go to the phones. Here's the question. There's been a lot of speculation about your own future. Have you made a decision on that? Are you ready see if you can follow this show? Okay, let's go two things. I love competing. You know that. You know I love this place with all my heart. We came here in two thousand and two and planned on staying six to eight years and stayed a lot longer. I know there's people to get frustrated because I've been here a long time, and that's okay. I since that an old boss of man told old boss of mine told me one time, every time you make a fifty to fifty decision, use fifty percent of your friends. He's probably not wrong. But we love Kentucky. I get up invigorated about what we're doing at work. I'm still not even halfway through. I love watching our kids compete. When that day comes and I don't know, I'll sit down with my family and we'll talk and determine what's best for our family and for me, but more importantly, what's best for Kentucky. I got a couple two and a half more years left on my count. The ambassador clause is out there. It can go any time after December thirty first. If that's something that's best for this university, then we'll have that conversation. If it's something that we want to continue to work at. I would like to win some more things. I like winning volleyball has been a blast. I'd like to win it some more things and see what we got. And I love our coaches. We've got good people and it's fun to work with.

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Speaker 3: So in other words, maybe that's not even a maybe that's like.

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Speaker 4: That's nothing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a lot of words.

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Speaker 4: It's a lot of words.

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Speaker 2: To get no answer out of it.

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Speaker 4: Are you coming back?

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Speaker 3: He likes to compete fifty to fifty volleyball?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean to me, those answers like they do more harm than good. I know less. I know less now than I did before. Right, Well, you know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he says, get what two two and a half years left on the contract, But then again, he can step away after December thirty first, right, But.

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Speaker 4: He doesn't get any sense if that's what he's gonna do, Right, he said, we'll have conversations.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, he's great at not answering the cluss.

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Speaker 4: I mean that's great. Do you know why we don't know what's going on? Yeah, answers like that. Let's go to Justic go ahead, justin.

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Speaker 8: Hey, wells, appreciate you taking my call. I'm actually headed to the airport to go to Kansas City to watch the volleyball team play.

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Speaker 4: It's excited, now, that's I mean, that's I'm excited about the volleyball tomorrow night, nine o'clock. We're gonna have a watch party. I think it's gonna be fun. But I'm also just excited to watch him. They are the favorites right now, they're the betting favorite. And are you going? Do you go to a lot of volleyball games.

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Speaker 8: I'm actually an alum. I actually used to be a student manager for Craig Okay, I graduated in twenty eighteen, so just to support And yeah, I'm I'm just really excited to have the chance to watch him compete for their second title. And I guess I really didn't have a question planned. But since I am going, you and Shannon are the only one on duty today, do you guys want like a hat or a T shirt from City.

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Speaker 4: Radio.

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Speaker 2: We never turned down free swag.

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Speaker 4: Send send volleyball swag the CHS bar and if you get it there quickly, if you k gets it over there tonight, we'll give it away at the watch party tomorrow.

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Speaker 8: Okay, perfect.

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Speaker 4: What sizes do you guys wear? I'm an excel Shannon's extra small, large, war a large. Thank you very much, appreciate it. No, that's uh, it's gonna be exciting tomorrow night. You think we're gonna win?

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes I do.

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Speaker 3: I do have a little bit of PTSDC in Wisconsin in the final four. But you know that was that was basketball has nothing to do with this.

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Speaker 4: Well, do you think this would erase it at all if we were to beat them? And? Uh, it make me feel a.

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Speaker 3: Little bit better about it, just a little bit. You still got Pittsburgh on the other side of the bracket.

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Speaker 4: Who's the would you do you think you can dance in between the sets at the final four? Well, you talked about how they were dancing at the Elite eight. Can you dance at the final four?

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Speaker 3: Why would you stop? Now you know you dance in the Elite eight? Why are you gonna stop when you get to the final four.

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Speaker 4: I had somebody write me and go. The hard thing for me about volleyball is I never know if we've won or lost the point because our players celebrate the same either way.

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Speaker 2: That's right, they really do.

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Speaker 4: They really do. Both teams clap no matter whether they score or not.

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Speaker 2: It's really the happiest sport I've ever watched.

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Speaker 4: I mean it is. Oh, it's definitely the happiest sport. It's the It's the most life affirming sport that exists, like you.

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Speaker 2: Know what, not even happier than that, Like volleyball.

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Speaker 4: It feels like there's a darkness under it.

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Speaker 2: Well you've watched what was it cheer on on Netflix?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but it feels like they're like they're smiling, but we don't know what's insane. It feels like volleyball is pure joy everywhere for every point. You're great, No, Mario, you're great. Everyone is great.

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Speaker 3: The cheerleaders are smiling, but they're dead inside.

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Speaker 6: Go ahead, Joey, Hi, guys, first time caller, who uh yep, I'm mad. I don't want you to know. We're thinking about your family up this way, man, Thank you, but you kind of answered my question earlier in the show. I was calling about the recruiting. You know, I'm kind of worried about that. Is there any way you could get a coach or coaching some of the staff on to explain, well, it's time they.

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Speaker 4: Can't talk about they can't talk about individual players. I mean, I think once the roster is built at the end of the year, then I am going to say to Mark Pope in an interview, how's this working. And because here's the thing, you could argue we shouldn't recruit these elite freshmen anymore. I'll listen to the argument. But the thing is he has recruited them. He's recruited like six or seven and tried, and if we get none of them, then that's an issue. A five nine two eight oh two for eighty seven open lines will be right back. TJ. Smith, personal injury attorney called TJ.

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Speaker 2: He'll make them pay now.

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Speaker 2: Here's Matt Jones, Welcome.

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Speaker 4: Back, Take you Sports Radio. Some questions from the text machine seven seven two seven seven four five two five four one person rights. No one knows the JMI deal. Let me ask you a question, what was the reason and the best of to the best of your ability, for why UK signed it. I think that's fairly easy. JMI provided a backstop in terms of financial support, and it was probably one that UK believes they needed. From what I've seen of the JMI deal, and granted, I give myself the ability to modify this when I learn more about it. I think it's a really good deal for ninety five to ninety seven percent of the student athletes at UK. It provides an athlete that doesn't have a lot of market value him or as him or herself a chance to make some money. So I think it's a really good deal for women's basketball, baseball, volleyball, and most of football, probably almost all of football. I think the JM idea works for those people. The question is does it work for elite basketball recruits, the elite basketball recruits who themselves have market value? Does it work for them? And right now the answer for me seems to be no, and that's why they're not getting these guys. So the question is going to be will it be modified for the elite guys? And we'll have to see, and maybe it already is. But nobody's answered the question, so I don't know. One person writes, Matt, you talk a lot about your fellowship. It sounds cool. How did you get chosen, Shannon? They just called me one day they read an article you may remember. You remember there was an article about me in Politico in like two thousand and nineteen, about me potentially running for Senate, and a guy came down here. He made fun of my haircut. You remember that. He was like, he has a crooked haircut and he's got a stain on his hoodie.

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Speaker 2: And the guy who's gonna be running for office.

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Speaker 4: I was like, man, I bought you wings, give me ah, why are you doing that to me? But they read that article and ended up it was a lot about how like they were. They talked to all these people who were Trump voters, who but who liked me, and so the whole felt it's this woman called me up and was like, you sound like what we're looking for. And that's how I ended up in And it's been a great experience, well, the best experiences of my life. I've absolutely, uh, absolutely loved it. One person writes, you and Shannon, Shannon was big on the Epstein files. Yeah, yeah, Matt, wouldn't the FBI have already arrested people if there was information into arrest them. That's always been my view. I always have thought the Epstein thing. While it's so odd to me that they won't release the files, I also think, like I always think it's been overblown, but it's but the it's like the dog that catches the what's the dog that catches the car? Like you catch the car, doesn't know what are you going to do?

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Speaker 2: Is know what to do with it once it catches.

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Speaker 4: So like all these people were rambling about the Biden administrations hide in the Epstein files, then they got them, and then they haven't done anything either. They caught the car, and like you could say, well it's such a huge conspiracy they don't want to release it, or you could say, like I do that. Like there's not as much juicy stuff as people said there was.

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Speaker 3: There's no list according to the latest that we're hearing, there's no list at all.

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Speaker 4: But see the woman that's the Attorney General, Pam Bondi, she said there was a list. So now they're saying there's not, Well, then how do you explain that six months ago you said there.

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Speaker 2: Was I don't even know what to believe anymore.

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Speaker 4: That's the problem, and then nobody will believe anything. That's what I've always told you about conspiracy theories why I don't like them. You create so much confusion that nobody believes anything, and that's actually not good for society in my opinion. Shannon, did you see the video of the guy who's a dart player in England and loses and beats up his table?

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Speaker 2: No, No, you need to look this up.

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Speaker 4: Look, there's a guy he's playing darts in England, one of those dart matches like I went to where everybody screams, and.

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Speaker 2: He's like like all that, I'm watching it right now.

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Speaker 4: And he loses and he just takes his fist and he starts beating the I mean beating the table. Yeah, and then he comes out and his hand is like bloody and it's like blood going down his hand and they escort him off the stage. They're like, please stop beating up our table.

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Speaker 2: I didn't know darts could be so violent, but this guy, yeah, he's just wearing it.

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Speaker 4: Out and not like kind of punching it.

00:27:46
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's what did he think was gonna happen.

00:27:51
Speaker 4: I think you want to make sure that table didn't fight back.

00:27:53
Speaker 2: The table didn't do anything, It was just sitting there.

00:27:56
Speaker 4: That's he's a violent reaction. I mean, have you seen the picture of his hand after it?

00:28:02
Speaker 2: Yes, it's like all bloody.

00:28:04
Speaker 4: It's disgusting.

00:28:06
Speaker 3: We need to see if he was on like some sort of performance enhancement drugs or something with that kind of rage he's.

00:28:10
Speaker 4: Got going on the drugs for darts.

00:28:13
Speaker 3: Well, maybe just something you know, to keep your hands steady so it doesn't shake you.

00:28:18
Speaker 4: I don't think I could do it, because when I hold my hand up like that sometimes.

00:28:21
Speaker 2: You shake a little bit.

00:28:22
Speaker 4: You shake a bit. He doesn't.

00:28:24
Speaker 3: If you take some sort of thing like is there something you can take to calm your heart rate down? You know, slow it down to your nice and calm. I feel like that would be something you could.

00:28:32
Speaker 4: Take performance enhancing darts.

00:28:36
Speaker 2: That is the angriest person to ever play darts right there.

00:28:39
Speaker 4: I've never seen anyone get that bad about darts ever. Kurt, go ahead, Kurt.

00:28:47
Speaker 9: Hi Matt, second time, really long time from well, thank you. I have a question that you may have already talked about on your Gamling podcast. Which I didn't unfortunately listen to. What did What are your honest thoughts on the Raiders kick against the Broncos two weeks ago when they kicked the field goal to cover the spread?

00:29:09
Speaker 4: So is that the game? They were down ten and they kicked a field goal and it made it three or excuse me, it was they made it seven, but the spread was seven and a half. Is that right?

00:29:19
Speaker 9: Yes, sir?

00:29:20
Speaker 4: Was there any time left on the clock.

00:29:23
Speaker 9: There was five seconds left on the clock and Pete Carroll's coach forever, and you know he knew there would be no chance.

00:29:30
Speaker 4: Here's the Here's here's the argument. I mean, the argument is you quickly do an onside kick. If you get it, you can throw a hail mary? Was there? Whereas if you throw the hail Mary, it'll take up all the time and then you have no chance. I mean, I it's suspect.

00:29:47
Speaker 9: It was fifty yards, Matt, and you know that takes five seconds from fifty yards.

00:29:52
Speaker 4: Oh, so did the game end on the field goal?

00:29:55
Speaker 9: It did?

00:29:57
Speaker 4: Okay? Yeah, then that's weird.

00:29:58
Speaker 2: Yeah.

00:30:01
Speaker 4: Is there any argument channing to say, what's better to lose by seven than ten?

00:30:05
Speaker 3: I guess yeah, you know, at least we lost by single digits, not double.

00:30:09
Speaker 4: It is suspect. I'll agree with you. I appreciate the call. It is suspect.

00:30:14
Speaker 3: But I think, you know, there's probably a thought that maybe you have a second left on the clock, and what you were saying, maybe you get an onside kick and maybe something crazy happens. I mean, that's really the only chance you're gonna have to win if you kick the field goal and try to go for the on side kick.

00:30:27
Speaker 4: Otherwise maybe you're just like seven seven looks better than ten.

00:30:31
Speaker 3: Well maybe otherwise I feel like you're just giving up on the game if you try to help Mary with five seconds to go, if you have a chance to kick a field goal.

00:30:37
Speaker 2: I don't know.

00:30:37
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, by your logic, I guess I would say, sir, why don't you just kneel down? Yeah, if you're gonna go for something, why not go for points that are actually realistic?

00:30:47
Speaker 6: Right?

00:30:48
Speaker 4: Yeah?

00:30:48
Speaker 2: Or maybe there was money on the game, yeah, or.

00:30:51
Speaker 4: Maybe Pete Carroll's on the game. I think that's less likely. But no, no, Bob and James down, go ahead? Bob had what about.

00:31:02
Speaker 7: These stickle fans? I was out in Kansas City pickle fans.

00:31:07
Speaker 4: What's a pickle fan?

00:31:08
Speaker 7: Listen to sports radio and I couldn't believe how they were running down the Chiefs. I mean it's just you know they were and that was before Moans and they're getting beat twice by Texas and the Cowboys.

00:31:23
Speaker 4: Well, I mean we're the same way though. I mean when we're good one year, I mean last year we made the Sweet sixteen, and now this year we're upset. I think that's just the nature of fans. You want to be good in the year that you're in, and so like, even if you won every championship the year before the year that you're in, you're gonna be like, we want to win this year too.

00:31:43
Speaker 7: A real fan supports a team regardless. I've been a Bengals fan for years, and you know their record. They've been to the super Bowl twice. But a real fan is a fan. They don't tickle.

00:31:58
Speaker 4: Now, I don't know if you're a real fan. Been the Super Bowl three times? Kenny Anderson made it boomera size and made it, and Joe Burrow made it.

00:32:09
Speaker 5: Yeah that's right, I forgot it.

00:32:11
Speaker 4: Yeah, I appreciate the call. You're not a real fan, not a real Fanha, you don't even know. Yeah, I mean, that's the only thing you can know, is a bingle fan is how many times you've been in the super Bowl. There's nothing else to know. Yeah, you never won.

00:32:27
Speaker 2: Happens maybe twice a lifetime, three times a lifetime. It depends on how old you are.

00:32:32
Speaker 4: Tom, go ahead, Tom, Hey, Matt, how you doing good.

00:32:37
Speaker 5: I want to give a little insight as far as JAMI goes. And this is years and years ago. I used to work for International Management Group and I was curious for people who don't.

00:32:48
Speaker 4: Know that was the company that existed I'MG before JMI. That was Kentucky's rights holder before JMI.

00:32:57
Speaker 5: And they're also basically the kind of the founder of sports marketing through Mark mccarmick. And of course you represented Arnold Palmer, Nicholas and Player and I worked. I was one of the first employees that worked in basically our track and field division, and we basically took this opinion back and field pro My opinion is that it's a very close, almost incestuous relationship. If you look at the president of JMI and the person who's head of n i L, they're both former UK employees I see a little bit in regards to baseball marketing, but not a lot of Like at IMG, we had so many different divisions within golf track tends, whatever, and and and and also TV, there was a big cross fertilization of lead from different companies. My fear is is that you know, you can only go back to Central Banks so many times, and that you have people who've been dealing with the same companies year and year out without basically any any any exposure maybe some outside lead. The other thing is it's pretty clear to me that Mitch was definitely betting that the Score Act was going to pass, no doubt, no doubt.

00:34:10
Speaker 7: He got rid of our.

00:34:13
Speaker 4: Tom I appreciate man. We got to move quicker. I he got rid of the private collectives because he assumed they were going to be illegal and they're not. And that's maybe that'll end up being accurate, but it's not accurate right now, and that probably has had an impact. Hey, bourbon lovers, you don't want to miss Commonwealth Causes December Bourbon Raffle. The next ultimate Bourbon Collection drawing is tomorrow, December the eighteenth. You get an aon iconic Peppy Van Winkle vertical and just for the holidays, Buffalo Trace Old Fashioned Copper Vintage two thousand and six bottle, The Weller Vertical Blands twenty thousand dollars worth of bourbon secures now Secure yours now at Commonwealth Causes dot org and add a little cheer to your Christmas spirit with Commonwealth Causes. We'll take a break. If I'm nine to two eight oh twenty two eighty seven's KSR, Welcome back Techi Sports Radio. If I'm nine two eight oh twenty two eighty seven, I'm sorry I had to cut off that dude. I'm Jake. I'm g I would like to have heard more about me talking about but you know, it wasn't a hard break. But we we have to be out of here about forty six or they lose their mind. If I'm nine two eight h uh twenty two eighty seven, Apparently there are performance enhancing drugs for uh, if not darts rifle. There are beta blockers that make your hands not shake as much.

00:35:37
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, I mean I was halfway joking about that, but I mean it makes sense to keep you steady from shaking.

00:35:42
Speaker 2: You would need that, and darts.

00:35:43
Speaker 3: I would think interesting, Yeah, well they test them, you think, Yeah.

00:35:48
Speaker 4: No, I mean I bet I'm sure they do. Yeah. One person writes, Matt you and Shannon Shannon are wrong about the Epstein files this cut. This involves the entire world world. I mean that may be true.

00:36:04
Speaker 2: This person doesn't exactly. I mean, nobody knows, except for the problem.

00:36:08
Speaker 4: Is we'll never know. The problem is we're never gonna know, and so people, I understand, people will believe what they want to believe. I don't know. Maybe it does involve the whole world. I don't I don't know.

00:36:19
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think any of this is ever coming out.

00:36:22
Speaker 4: We'll never really, And they're supposed to. I think it's isn't it this week? They're supposed to release it.

00:36:26
Speaker 2: I've been hearing that for a year.

00:36:29
Speaker 4: They're supposed to it, and then they re.

00:36:31
Speaker 2: Then just something else happens and they forget about it.

00:36:34
Speaker 4: And then they never do. One person writes, this song is question is only for Shannon, thanks a lot. What is the best cover of a song of all time?

00:36:42
Speaker 9: Hmmm?

00:36:44
Speaker 3: I have to think about that one for a minute. I mean, the most success.

00:36:50
Speaker 4: It wasn't for me, it was just.

00:36:51
Speaker 2: For I think it's probably gonna be Whitney Houston.

00:36:56
Speaker 4: That's what I was gonna say, that's coming. Whitney covering Dolly is the most successful. I will always love you. It's the most successful. I mean, whether it's the best is everybody's own opinion, right, but it's the most successful. That's got to be the most successful.

00:37:11
Speaker 3: Cover of all time, right there with All I Want for Christmas is You, Mariah Carey. I mean, say, what do you want about that? But it is the most No. I hate that song, but I mean it.

00:37:20
Speaker 4: Joys bring it.

00:37:21
Speaker 3: No.

00:37:21
Speaker 4: It's Ryan that always loves it because it's like, yeah, it was controversial I think at one point and Ryan was like, but I love it, and he got really get really free.

00:37:30
Speaker 3: But I think it's like one of the most successful of all time. It hits number one on the charts every year at this time. Yeah, and even though I hate the song, it's still one of the most popular ever.

00:37:39
Speaker 7: Uh.

00:37:40
Speaker 4: I'm nine. Twenty two eighty seven. The Kentucky Indiana basketball game got the highest TV rating for a back college basketball game on ESPN this year, and it is Shannon the highest TV rating for a December basketball game for ESPN in five years. What that tells me is put these games on Saturday night prime time and put Vatalan Barkley on more games.

00:38:06
Speaker 2: Well, I was gonna say that has a lot to do with it.

00:38:08
Speaker 3: Two million people according to the numbers, watch this game, and I think Barkley and Vitel together have a lot too. I don't think it's just Kentucky and Indiana.

00:38:16
Speaker 4: No, it's Kentucky, Indiana and Vatalan bark Right.

00:38:19
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I think we need more games with Votel and Barkley.

00:38:22
Speaker 4: If you're I mean, if I'm ESPN, do Vitowen Barkley once a month, right? Yep?

00:38:27
Speaker 3: You don't want it too much because then it's you know, it's an old, tired act.

00:38:31
Speaker 2: You don't want that too much. But once a month I think would be good. I would like to see it.

00:38:34
Speaker 4: I think it works. I think you put it. I actually think I would enjoy it, Shannon, even more on a game where my team was not playing.

00:38:40
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, because you don't work.

00:38:42
Speaker 4: Because they just be listening to them.

00:38:44
Speaker 2: Yeah, then you go split screen at all you want. I don't really care, you know, just put it on them only.

00:38:48
Speaker 4: But I am glad if they're only going to do one. I'm glad they did ours because I do think that was a cool night and uh, it'll be something we'll remember.

00:38:56
Speaker 2: Him said it was one of the coolest nights of his career.

00:38:59
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I'm saying, Shack, you're giving that one hundred thousand dollars whether you want fat ass or not like him saying that that's a great that's a great lie. Brandon, go ahead, Brandon eight five nine two eight twenty two eighty seven.

00:39:14
Speaker 7: Yeah, good morning.

00:39:15
Speaker 9: You guys opened the show talking about KSR people from yesteryear and you failed to mention In turn, Drew, Well.

00:39:25
Speaker 4: That's how we had the job for Maria.

00:39:27
Speaker 7: We had.

00:39:27
Speaker 4: That's how we had the job for the Maria's Drew the Intern moved to Chicago with his woman to work at.

00:39:34
Speaker 2: What was it sports?

00:39:37
Speaker 4: Yeah, Hedge, fine girl for Bacon Sports. And then that's how we had the opening for Maria.

00:39:43
Speaker 5: That's all I had.

00:39:44
Speaker 4: Appreciate it. Yes, Drew the Intern, don't want to forget him. He came to our bar about a year ago. He was he was friends with Zach. So the chronology is I create the show with Rob Goodell, John Wilkinson, Hubby on podcasts, The Turkey Hunter, all those guys. It moves to radio. Well, first it moves to radio, not KSR, and it's me. It's a sports mob with Matt and Rob. Then Rob moves to Florida and it becomes Me and davraa goone at People don't remember that. And then I had my own show for a little while at night on a black gospel station in Louisville.

00:40:31
Speaker 2: That's an interesting choice to put you on there.

00:40:33
Speaker 4: Well, it was on thirty eighth in Broadway in Louisville. I would dry and it was at night. And then get KSR, bring Zack in, Drew the intern, and then the kind of the rest is history.

00:40:47
Speaker 3: You know, Zach is still very important to the show because about once every six or seven years we lose the lost turn to the podcast, and Zach's still the only part.

00:40:57
Speaker 2: Did he ever tell us what the password was?

00:40:58
Speaker 4: Zach is still the only person who can log in any all.

00:41:01
Speaker 3: It won't tell anybody else. It's like a secret that he holds.

00:41:04
Speaker 4: Sally stays connected to you. He still is the only person that can log into the podcast.

00:41:09
Speaker 5: Drew, go ahead, Drew, Hey, Matt, So I think it's pretty clear that nil is an issue. So I guess my question is what do we do?

00:41:19
Speaker 9: Are we just kind of stuck until this game ideal goes away?

00:41:22
Speaker 5: Is there anything?

00:41:23
Speaker 4: Well, here's what my optimistic view. If they lose all these basketball players, and again, now, if they end up getting Christian Collins and Tying Stokes, I think that means it worked itself out. But if they don't, then I think JAMI is going to have to change their deal or UK's going to have to change their deal so that they get these elite players. I mean, the deal goes for fifteen more years, so I don't think that deal is not going to end. The question will be, can they if it works for ninety seven percent of the players and it doesn't work for the other three percent, why not just make an exception for the other three percent. Now, you k might say, well, if you make an exception for three percent, then the other ninety seven percent are gonna won it, And maybe they're right. I don't know the answer to that question, so but I'm but I'm concerned about it. With these top guys, maybe they fix it, But you had like four dudes in this class locked up, and right now it's looking like we might not get any of them. Eight fi Ive'm nine two eight oh twenty two eighty seven will take your calls back, Ask anything, Wednesday, KSR