"It's Play Well or Go Home"

The Phillies Show

The Phillies lost two of three this week in Atlanta, which wouldn’t be such a big deal, except it is a continuation of mediocre play since the All-Star break.

Only one team has a worse record in baseball than the Phils since the break: the Chicago White Sox.

The offense’s continued struggles are concerning. Everybody is swinging and missing too much as teams continue to throw them breaking balls and offspeed pitches outside the strike zone. Is there a fix for this? Do the Phillies need to make some lineup and personnel changes? Clearly, something needs to happen as the Phillies open a three-game series on Friday night in Kansas City.

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00:00:00
Speaker 1: I just call Hammil's Welcome to the Philly Show.

00:00:16
Speaker 2: Hi, everybody, Welcome to the Philly Show. Ruben Amar Junior, Jim Salisbury, Todds. We lucky it's Friday, August twenty third, twenty twenty four. Times, my friends, not good times for the Phillies. I just got back this morning, so I haven't been able to flip on the old radio and see what the what the Delaware Valley is chatting about.

00:00:40
Speaker 1: My folks saying, yeah, radio right.

00:00:43
Speaker 2: But I have been reading my tweets and seeing my emails and seeing the comments on on Facebook and whatnot.

00:00:49
Speaker 3: And don't you love it when people blame you?

00:00:53
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that was the best.

00:00:54
Speaker 1: You know.

00:00:54
Speaker 2: It's funny when I used when I used to go on with Angelo on WIP in the mornings, I'd go on like once a week, right, and Angela would just kill me and I would get people calling up.

00:01:05
Speaker 1: Going you so mean, Utah.

00:01:10
Speaker 2: But I understood what was going on. You know, you're a sounding boards like why haven't they cut Michael Saunders yet? And I'm like, it's three weeks into the season. You can't cut an eight million dollar guy three weeks into the season or whatever. The case may be right.

00:01:22
Speaker 1: Well, I'm certainly being blame.

00:01:24
Speaker 3: Still, I'm blaming something you I had, something I did.

00:01:33
Speaker 1: For ten years.

00:01:34
Speaker 3: It's your fault. They swing at all those breaking balls off the plane.

00:01:39
Speaker 2: There were some There was some amateur free agent Ruben in twenty fourteen that you didn't sign that could have solved this problem if you had just signed him. Some dude from Venezuela, whatever or whatever. Really bad bad week in a lot of ways. But I think the thing that jumps out guys is the just the offense, just a terrible showing by the offense. Bat in like one twenty against the Braves this week. The Braves are tired. The final seventeen batters they faced on Tuesday night and at one point last night Thursday night, they retired nineteen in a row.

00:02:18
Speaker 1: Awful. It's effixiating.

00:02:20
Speaker 2: What do you do?

00:02:22
Speaker 1: So here's some of the things that as I'm watching the games. Obviously there's a lot of swing and miss, there's a lot of chase. It is clear, very clear that the Atlanta Braves have something on them on the phillies as far as how to attack them and how to get them out, how to and they're executing it, and they're doing a very very good job of it, and you have to give them credit for that. I think one of the reasons why it's happening, and it happened to us in two thousand and nine, ten and eleven, where you're scrutinized so much and scouted so much and seen so much that you start to be able to pick apart things that each one of those hitters do, and if you can execute, you can have success. I mean, if you can pitch and you can execute your pitches, then you can have success. We had that happen to us in ten and eleven. It's one of the reasons why we got knocked out early in some of those playoff races because the execution and being able to pick apart the you know, the flaws in whoever's swing, their ability to you know, to see what they can and cannot do at the plate is being exploited right now, and it's being exploited pretty much with almost every hitter. And I think it's a combination of knowing how to pitch them and also executing. And the Braves have done a nice job of that, and other teams have done a nice job of it. So it's I mean, if you're scouting and you're watching, whether it's video, whether it's you know, you're actually having an advanced scout. You can pick up are some people and you can go back to some of the film and watch some of this, and I'm sure they're intelligent people out there watching it happen. And if you need to execute as a pitching staff, then you can have some success against this club match.

00:04:15
Speaker 2: Gelb had a great little nugget in his story today in The Athletic that the Phillies have seen fewer fastballs than any team in baseball since the All Star break. So it's just off speeds, breaking balls, rinse, repeat, twenty twenty three NLCS all over again.

00:04:31
Speaker 3: And they can't lay off that stuff that dangles off of the outside corner of the plate and breaks off the plate. You know what Rubin says, You know about the Phillies in nine, ten and eleven, they were really heavily scouted. I think scouting is even more sophisticated now. Really not a long period of time has passed just because the video scouting, they can pinpoint every situation through these you know, analytics they have and really pick a part of team's weaknesses, and the Phillies just can't lay off that stuff. I think there's some over anxiousness, but they're also a free swinging team that has been prone to this before. You know, Leopard don't change his spots. I know they worked on it a lot, they talked about it a lot, but you know, when in the competitive situation, you're still going to revert back to usually you know what you are, and that's a free swinging team that when they're not going good, is prone to chasing, prone to try to do too much. And that's what we're seeing. I mean, you go to Atlanta, you score six runs in three games. That's terrible. It's terrible for this roster and for this group of players and this group of track records. You had three extra base hits, three doubles, you had no home runs. Team that's built a slug. I think they're trying to do too much. The selectivity has gone in the tank. And you know, they really wasted a couple of good starting outings from Wheeler and Sanchez and only lost a game in the standing. And you know, three days ticked off the calendar. They're going to play in October they're going to play in October. But if they're big guys Swore Harper Turner are not. They're big guys and don't play well, they're not going.

00:06:12
Speaker 1: To last long. I think the one of the biggest issues is they're not allowing. They're not passing the baton. And when you start and you make a great point, Jim, I mean, Leopards don't change their spots very much. It's hard to do it at their veteran stages. But they sort of have to be able to be patient enough and selective enough to pass the baton, take a walk, let somebody else do the job. And that's hard to do when you're trying to get back on track right. You want to swing your way out of your your slumps. You're down your down times, and that's a difficult thing to do. I've been there myself as a as a young player. Now that these guys are old enough and better enough to be able to make those adjustments, I hope and I think that. I think part of it has to be like, hey, it's okay for me to take a walk. I don't have to come up with the big bass hit. I just have to try to be have a productive at bat. So productive at bats is what it's about. And you string enough productive of bats back to back and you got a chance to do some damage because that's when it creates stress for the picture. And I'm hoping that they can turn that piece of it around.

00:07:31
Speaker 3: And when you chase, you create no stress on the opposing picture. I mean, Rightselle Glacia, it's just right through that ninth ending last night. You know the brains, they got a lot of guts that team. So impressed with that team. They have lost four stunts, you know, Riley, Albi's Acuna and obviously Spencer Stryder, and they just hang tough and they hang tough, and the hang tough. They go out and they get you know, they pick up with Merryfield, they pick up g Rshella and those two combine a lightning quick double play last night. That was to me, big time difference maker in that ball game. A lot of guts on that team.

00:08:08
Speaker 1: Yeah, the smart move by Alexandthoppolos. I mean you're not going to get I mean you're not going to get a producer like Austin Riley, but you can get somebody who can help you on the defensive side of the ball, and those two guys actually on the defensive side of the ball helped win that series. They won the series because they made unbelievable defensive plays that kept them in the game and didn't allowed to allow for extended innings. And that's sort of the opposite of what happened with the Phillies.

00:08:36
Speaker 2: The double play that Turner hit into is a great defensive play at third base.

00:08:40
Speaker 1: I've ever seen.

00:08:43
Speaker 3: We look like Masarowski getting rid of that thing.

00:08:46
Speaker 1: He's really really good.

00:08:47
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the I think the concern is that that has everybody worried is that it just seems like this has gone on so long and they know what the plan of attack is and they seem unable to just unable to stop it. Like you said, Ruby, you can't change Leopard's spots or stripes or whatever you want to say. That they just can't get it going. I mean this series, you look at the numbers, Kyle Schwarber one for ten, Trey Turner oh for eleven, Bryce Harper won for twelve, Nick Castiano's one for eleven, up and down the lineup, just just nothing going on. And it's been that way since the you know, since the All Star break.

00:09:25
Speaker 3: You know, there's fourteen strikeouts last night.

00:09:28
Speaker 2: Fourteen strikeouts last night. I think they had like thirty three in the series. They had five walks in the series.

00:09:33
Speaker 3: I think they had twenty seven swings and misses last night.

00:09:38
Speaker 1: And I'm not here to bash these guys, but the reality of it is, the swing and miss is, you know, it's it's epidemic, and it does, it does get contagious. You've got to try to make contact. It's been a little bit of a topic of discussion this all on MLB Network, they talked about it little bit. I don't know why the strikeout was became acceptable, but for ten or twelve years, it's become an acceptable thing. The strikeout, folks, the strikeout is not acceptable, and the strikeout is not acceptable because the strikeout you can create absolutely zero with a strikeout. There's no chance of ever doing anything productive with a strikeout. And so I'm not sure why people don't logically understand that, but they don't. And I know the pitching's tough, but it just seems like the emphasis on making contact and putting the ball in play has gone by the wayside. For twelve or fifteen years, and I think it's one of the detrimental things that's happened to the sport.

00:10:44
Speaker 2: Well, Rob Thompson said last night, they need to think small big things happen. Think small big things happen. Stop swinging out of your shoes.

00:10:52
Speaker 1: I guess.

00:10:53
Speaker 2: Let them try to get the ball back into the strike zone and then try to do something with it. But don't try to hit a four, you know, a grand slam every time you step to the plate. So he seems to be searching for answers too.

00:11:05
Speaker 3: I mean, the swings are so big. You mentioned the last twelve fifteen years. The swings are big, fastballs are big. It's power and that's how you can pay it with power, and that's why the swings are big, and that's why the fastballs are big, and that's why the strikeouts have gone off.

00:11:19
Speaker 1: I'd see, but what I don't understand about it. And I studied hitting a lot. I was a very good hitter, but I understood hitting. And what I don't understand is when you have power and you have speed, the key is to be quick with your swing, not big with your swing, because that gives you a much better chance to see the ball longer and to make contact. That's not something that's happening enough, especially with two strikes very rarely. And when the Phillies are going well, they do that well. They hit the ball the other way. I talk about it on the broadcast all the time. When those guys are seeing the ball a long time and driving the ball the opposite way, that's when they're having their most success. Pretty much every single hitter across the board. That's why Alec Boone's such a good hitters, why brys and Scott is not the same hitter as he was last year, because he's not doing those sorts of things. And so at some point you just hope that the guys that are in the box and in that situation, having stress upon them, that they can make those adjustments and we will be right back.

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00:13:19
Speaker 2: Guys, It's time for Them's fighting words presented by Schibe Vintage Sports. Get unique throwback Phillies teas hats and sweatshirts after shops in Center City, Wayne and Westchester and at shisports dot com. First sports from shibes Gear I got. I got my Blue Horizon T shirt on which I love. I went to Blue Horizon my first move to Philly, my first year. I was telling this to Jim Ruben before. That was my introduction, true introduction of Philly. Because we don't have stuff like that in Wisconsin. You know, we don't have you know, like row a house on North broad that walk inside and guys are pummeling each other.

00:14:03
Speaker 1: Awesome. It was awesome.

00:14:05
Speaker 2: So this week's Phillies Quote of the Week, I had to pick something that was in Ruben's guy's Ben Franklin.

00:14:12
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's my hood, my hood.

00:14:16
Speaker 2: Do you even know who the Philadelphia Blazers were?

00:14:18
Speaker 1: No?

00:14:19
Speaker 2: Well, I had to ask you who the Philadelphia Blazing So they were a.

00:14:22
Speaker 3: Short lived WAJA team World Hockey Association and they Pilford. One of my favorite players from the Boston Bruins, Derek Sanderson. He's the guy that set up Bobby Or for the Stanley Cup winning goal on May tenth, nineteen seventy. Not that I was a big Bruins fan, but Derek Sanderson, Rubin get this. Derek Sanderson goes to the Philadelphia Blazers. They played in the Civic Center over by Penn. Yeah, he goes to the Philadelphia Blazers, wha signs a sixth year, two point six million dollar contract, which at that time in like seventy three largest contract in sports history at that time, two point six million in sports history yeah, larger's contract in sports history at that time, didn't you know it was surpassed but at that time six years to two point six million, and wow, we ended up dissolving the contract. He only played like five or six games or whatever eight games, and that the Blazers has ended up moving away.

00:15:23
Speaker 2: But yeah, it was a serious glue for back then day. So this this week's Them's Fighting the Words Quota of the Week, Philly's quarter of the week. It comes from Trade Turner and it's from last night, and I thought it was very fitting. This is Trey Turner last night in the in the clubhouse. There's still time left. Obviously, we want to play well. It started to get to that point in the season where it's play well or go home type of deal. I don't think we're any stress or pressure or anything like that, but more so, we just want to play well. We know what we're capable of and we expect it out of ourselves. I thought it was an interesting mention of it's getting to that point the season where its play well or go home. Jim, I agree with you. I think they're gonna make the playoffs. You know they would, they would have to go in an epic collapse not to make the playoffs, they still have a six game lead over the Braves. The Braves would have to play insane baseball the rest of the way. The Phillies would have to continue on this slide not to make the playoffs. But it's not about getting in this year. It's about going deep into October. And the way they're hitting right now, I think that's what has everybody nervous or going is this gonna happen again in the postseason? Is whoever they play in the NLDS, are they just going to throw sliders and and off speed and breaking balls, you know? And and are they gonna be bounced out in the NLDS like the Diamondbacks did to them in the NLCS. I think that's what's got everybody nervous.

00:16:44
Speaker 3: And they're they're playing so poorly that if they keep this up, they're gonna end up being the third seed and they're gonna right an extra series, and that increases the chances that you have one of these stretches where you're swinging and missing everything in you and you go home early. So yet to get this going one seating two, because you want to take some momentum in there.

00:17:04
Speaker 1: Three.

00:17:05
Speaker 3: You want to believe in yourself and the fans want to believe in you. But it's been a it's been a rough stretch. They have not played well against good teams, and they're going to see good teams in October.

00:17:14
Speaker 2: So, Jim, what would you do? Would there be anything that you would do on this roster or whatever to get things going. Austin Hayes is supposed to come back tonight in Kansas City, probably starting left field, anything, you know, So I guess Kel Stevenson Probably the.

00:17:27
Speaker 3: Thing I would do is hope Tray Turner puts his money where his mouth is. They need him, they need Harper, they need forward to. You need your big guns to be your big guns need them to play well.

00:17:37
Speaker 1: You know that.

00:17:38
Speaker 3: I see some transactions coming. I mean, obviously you pointed out Hayes is going to come back. I would imagine Cal Stevenson will go with that something we I think we talked about last week. I'm pretty much at I'm ready to pull a trigger on I mean, you know, Brandon marsh is striking out like forty four percent of the time this month, and you know, I hate to lay this at his feet. This this kid they're in and the struggles they're in.

00:18:01
Speaker 1: It's because to.

00:18:03
Speaker 3: Me he's a second tier player. But you know, he just kind of looks lost at the plate, and I would think it's time maybe to send him to Triple I bring Cody Clemens, another left handed hitter who has been hitting really well at Triple A. It wouldn't be punitive for Marsh. It would be try to get him right. But you know he's just not helping you. I mean, this is this is the time when you need you need production. And I know he's been a popular guy. It doesn't have to be forever, but try to get him right and maybe swap him out with for Cody Clements.

00:18:35
Speaker 2: Yeah, Marsh Marsh in the Brave Series zero for five, five strikeouts. Brandon Marsh since the All Star Break, five twenty three ops, he struck out forty percent of the time, second in baseball to Luis Robert Junior. Remember Lease Robert Junior. Everybody thought he was gonna be the answer to the Philly's problems. He's been even worse than anybody. But at five twenty three ops for March since the All Star Break, Rubyn, what do you think about to be bringing up Cody Clemens. Cody Clemens this month in TRIPLEA, for what it's worth, batting three twenty eight, eight thirty five, ops, a couple home runs, not striking out nearly as much. Not as good at pitching down there, of course, but he didn't strike out that much relatively. Speaking to marsh when he was up here.

00:19:15
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not a really super patient person by nature. I think you have to be patient in the game of baseball. But that said, I think it's gotten to the point now with basically two months of like very very mediocre to poor baseball in this league to be playing at this rate, because frankly, there's not great teams. I mean, this Atlanta Braves team is not a great team. There's a lot of teams that they're playing. They're not great teams. Even the game teams that are out over five hundred not great teams. They're no super teams at least not the way they're performing. And so for them to have performed this poorly for so long, I think a change needs to be made. I don't think that some of the things that they could be doing base running one, I don't see the aggressiveness trade, Turner's not run or as stolen. I haven't seen an attempted stolen base. Part of is because he's hitting in front of Harper. Maybe a slide him somewhere else in the lineup that when he gets on base, you're not afraid to run in front of Harper. That I think something. I think some change probably needs to be made, whether it's the lineup shake up, whether it's just giving guys who are swinging the bat the best more opportunities. Bryce and Stott's not been very good. Do you put you know, put somebody else at second base for a while. Does a Mundo Sosa play a little bit? I mean it's time, it's time to play, and it's time to be to be productive. And there are some people on that bench, and there's some people, some pieces that maybe have better, more productive at bats. It might be time to make some changes, whether it's sending somebody out or changing the lineup. I love the stats of what Rob Thompson brings and I get it, but at some point, if you're not doing your job, and it is pretty evident that a lot of guys are not right now, that a change needs to be made just just at least to shake things up and to see And it's not a panic move because he's not. I mean, it wouldn't be a panic move. Would be a production move. Listen, they're not doing it. They're not getting it done. Maybe as some sort of change can shake some things up. It's not panic.

00:21:31
Speaker 3: It would be totally justifiable.

00:21:33
Speaker 1: Totally absolutely.

00:21:34
Speaker 2: A couple of months ago, we would have said, what are they doing? This is ridiculous. They've only been struggling, But now it's two months of just media swing and miss mediocre baseball. I mean, they've got they're tied for the second worst record in baseball since the All Star break. The White Sox obviously worse. You know, they're tied with the Pirates. You know, the White Sox fire their manager. The Mariners are right behind the Phillies in terms of records since they also break. They just fired their manager. And that's not what I'm suggesting, but I'm just saying, like the teams that they're playing alongside right now, you know, they're they're like they're making major moves because.

00:22:10
Speaker 1: They're they're they're they're so bad over the past several weeks.

00:22:13
Speaker 6: And guess what they're gonna they're gonna face some pretty darn good starting pitching here in Kansas City. It's one of the best starting pitching in all of baseball, right there behind the Phillies and Mariners and some of the other teams that are up there at the top.

00:22:25
Speaker 1: And believe me, they've been watching them too, so they've been watching exactly how they're getting them out. So I would suggest, I think you're gonna get a new hitter in left field that's gonna help. I think I don't know how he's gonna produce. I would suggest, you know, hey, change the lineup up. If some guys aren't producing, then let other people try to get in there to produce.

00:22:48
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd like to see I'd like to see something.

00:22:50
Speaker 3: Uh agree. You need to have some type of action that says this ain't good enough. I mean, they tried the team meeting thing. There needs to be some action that says this same good enough.

00:23:00
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I don't think if anybody in there is offended by somebody getting optioned or sent down. I mean it's you have to really look in the mirror at that point, right, I mean, you're like, how could we change anything?

00:23:11
Speaker 1: Stay the course like they've stayed the course. They've stayed the course.

00:23:14
Speaker 2: A long time, you know, so they gotta they gotta get going. Yeah, Reuben, you mentioned the pitching matchups this week. You got uh Taiwan Walker versus Michael Walka on Friday night. Saturday, Ranger Suarez is coming back. We don't know what he's going to look like. They need a good version of him though, Jim, you said it the other day. It can't be one of these slow ramp ups.

00:23:36
Speaker 3: He needs to look good. And he's been a while. It makes you wonder what the heck's going on. Yeah, and they need to. He needs to feel good about himself. They need to feel good about him. He's such an important contributor as they were building the best record in baseball, when they looked like they were invincible.

00:23:51
Speaker 1: Guys, can we talk about the starting pitching because the starting pitching has been outstanding.

00:23:55
Speaker 3: Really, it's been great, and it wasted.

00:23:58
Speaker 1: It wasted, Reutings. I mean, listen, Aaron Nola wasn't perfect. He gave up one. He's gonna give up a home run every single game. It's gonna happen. He's going to give up a home run at some point because that's his track record. I get it. But he kept them in the game and they should be scoring runs off of that team and they're just not doing well.

00:24:17
Speaker 2: Rat Rubin, you said that just the other day, like this starting pitching's got to get going, because you know, they just that's what kind of carried them the first couple months of the season. Man and man, they really need the starting pitching to come through now while this offense they have no shot otherwise.

00:24:31
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the biggest problem I have with the starting pitching right now is that they're forced to be perfect and that should not happen with this ball club. When you have those three guys at the top of the lineup, those four guys, excuse me, four guys at the top of the lineup. You got to have more production than that, you really do. And they're paid to perform, and it's been long enough now through the last couple of months that the performance has not been there. Is it. Are they banged up? Are they not healthy?

00:25:01
Speaker 3: I don't know.

00:25:02
Speaker 1: Uh, they're in there. So if they're in there, they should be performing. And it doesn't matter whether they're banged up or not. It's time for them to step A, step it pay.

00:25:10
Speaker 3: And guys, you know, you know the Royals are a good team, young right in it need victories, right and they're playing good.

00:25:17
Speaker 2: They got a guy who's gonna maybe run down Aaron Judge for a l m v P.

00:25:23
Speaker 3: But the schedule is tough. I mean, you got Houston coming in, then you got the Braves again, and then the calendar slips flips into September and you get seven with the Mets, and you know the Mets. The Mets are pulling off some dramatic wins.

00:25:41
Speaker 1: That's mojo going.

00:25:42
Speaker 3: They got some mojo. That isn't going to be seven interesting games, especially if the Phillies' right the ship here pretty soon.

00:25:52
Speaker 2: And then so so Suarez is going against Brady Singer on Saturday and then Sunday. This is I wonder how if Rob tom And will change his thinking based off what happens the first two games. He said, Zach Wheeler is scheduled to start Sunday, but depending on how they come out of it or Wheeler Wheeler's coming out of it, Nola, He's throwing a one hundred plus pitches the last couple of starts. They could go to a six man either make Sunday a bullpen game or call up Kobe Allard. I think I don't think Tyler Phillips is eligible to be to be recalled, but I wonder if they would scrap those plans if they lose those first two games.

00:26:29
Speaker 3: Anyway, if you win him and go for a sweep, I mean, you know, Wheeler loves to stay on turn. I mean, I just think that might be an urgency move that you know, we considered bullpen game was considered extra rest, but he don't like extra rest.

00:26:42
Speaker 2: And he's that's a great point man, and go for a little jugular action that that that kind of goes back to what happened on Sunday, you know, with with Bryce and JT sitting on the bench, and that would would have been you know, not that we don't know that they would have won, but speaks to that philosophy and go for the jugular, especially when that guy he is the guy.

00:27:03
Speaker 1: He is the man, no doubt, no doubt. I mean, I think again, I know it's important, and this is something that Rob Thomas has priested a lot down the road. They need all the they need the health and yeah, the but the urgency needs to be there because it's not like I know, they have some cushion, but they just haven't been playing well, and so you sort of need them to ramp up the mojo by playing better baseball and winning and what out of you change the mojo. You change the mojo by winning baseball games.

00:27:36
Speaker 2: Right, It would be a big weekend if they could somehow get two out of three in Kansas City, But.

00:27:40
Speaker 1: No doubt, and and and I think that would be a huge plus if they can get two out of three there, huge plus. If they cannot, it's it's still it's it's gonna be an interesting race over the next month and a half.

00:27:56
Speaker 2: Man, it's less than a month and a half now, especially coming out.

00:28:00
Speaker 1: It's time for them to start playing the baseball that you need to play as they wrap towards towards October.

00:28:05
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, if they have a bad weekend this weekend, then you come home and to place the play the Astros and the Braves and things get off on the wrong foot on Monday, it's gonna be some unhappy.

00:28:21
Speaker 3: It'll be autobut in society, there'll be bluebirds at the ballpark.

00:28:25
Speaker 7: I mean, all all the equity and all the joy that they've created with this team as starting to dissipate a little bit, but that can be turned around. And the way you turn it around is by Schwarber hitting leadoff home runs, Harper coming up with big doubles, Trey Turner hitting the.

00:28:44
Speaker 1: Home run and stealing a bag. All those things get washed away and everything's hunky dory if those guys start doing what they totally what they typically have done in their careers, and.

00:28:54
Speaker 2: Then they hope in a few weeks ago, remember that rough stretch where we're in for two months where we look terrible, you know, now we're ready to rock and role. So that's that's the hope. I think every all those guys have is that.

00:29:03
Speaker 3: We've kind of been saying this now for two weeks. It's time to stop saying it, and they need to you know, you know, we need to see it or else. I don't know what the next conversation is.

00:29:15
Speaker 2: Well, I can't wait to see what our next conversation is gonna be on Monday morning.

00:29:17
Speaker 1: Guys.

00:29:18
Speaker 2: It's either going to be more of like what the hell is going on here? Or hey, maybe they got this thing turned around a little bit. Going to this big seven game homestand so guys, we will be back Monday. That was fun as fun as we as fun as we could make it. It was depressing as hell, the dooming gloom. We try to keep it entertaining and fun even as even as it looks like the sky is falling and the swings and missus keep coming. So I'll talk to you guys on Monday.

00:29:45
Speaker 1: Thanks Jim.

00:29:53
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