Ep:55 They Always Follow The Creeks
When he was a teenager, Tyler saw a massive creature in a creek while deer hunting. Years later he captures video of something huge on two legs. He shares the details of his encounters, and some of the insane bigfoot activity going on where he investigates.
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2023-02-24
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If you'd like to talk about your own big foot encounter, or if you're looking for help from a big foot investigator in your area, email me at Bigfoot Crossroads at gmail dot com. No sasquats were harmed in the recording of this podcasting. This is Bigfoot Crossroads. I'm Matt and I am joined by my guest, Tyler Howell of Florida. Let's just get right into it, man, So take us back. You're a young teenage boy deer hunting in a southern Alabama. Yeah, yeah, southern southeast Alabama. So it was right outside of a small town called Union Springs. Um, and it was back in a point in time where you could least prime deer hunting land from somebody on a firm handshakee um. It's just different. These times are different. Now you won't find hunting land like that anywhere. But anyways, so it's a big, big chunk of land and I'm pretty I'm pretty much sitting right in the middle of it. And it is a good ways from any any house. I mean it's maybe three two three miles maybe to the nearest burning light bulb. I mean, it's it's out there. Well, I was sitting in some planted pines and I'm about thirty maybe forty feet up a pine tree and a climb and tree stand, and off my left shoulder there's is the ridge line and it goes all the way down to this creek and up the other side of the hill, and it's just a big hardwood bottom. You could hear a deer coming from a mile. But I sitting to my tree stand and it's starting to get dark, and there's a point in time deer hunting that my dad calls the magical hour, and that's when there's barely just enough shooting light left, like you can barely see the cross says in your scope. And it's getting almost of that time, and I hear something coming down the creek. First I was thinking though it might have been a deer. Then it just got a little bit louder, a little louder, and as it was getting closer, I was like, wait a minute, that water is moving pretty good. Because you can't hear that creek flowing sitting in to my tree, you can't hear the unf it is a still day, you won't be able to hear it. And the water that it was being moved. You know. It's I described to people like, imagine if you're belly high in some water at the beach and you got to get to the hill real quick, you're gonna pump your legs. You're gonna, you know, move that water. It's gonna make noise. Yeah, that's what it sounded like, just that swo swoosh. Yes, like it literally sounded like leg it's just pumping through this water. I'm like, dude, what's happening? And as it gets closer and closer and closer, is getting louder. At this point in time, I see something and it just looked like a big man, and it was dark colored. That's because the amount of light that was left it was almost dark, so all I can see was just a silhouette of something large and dark working its way through that creek and up the hill to the ridgeline. It just looked like a big man. And I knew it wasn't my dad, because you know, from deer hunting my whole life and sitting in tree stands when my dad walking through the woods, you know, I'm pretty good at gauging height. You know, I've hunted on public land too. My whole life here where I live, and I always see people walking through the woods that I'm sitting in a tree stands, So I'm pretty good at gauging roughly the size of it. Man, And it was just massive. Now, was it down in the creek? Whenever you thought it still? But when I when I first seen it, it was in the creek. It came out of the creek. I started working his way up the hill to the ridgeline and to those planted pines that I was sitting in. So I would assume that if it was down in a creek, it had to be pretty good size for you to be able to see it. Oh yeah, well, I mean that creek. That creek though, I mean it's not very deep, Like there's a couple holes in it, you know that I could go jump in, yeah, and it'd probably come up to my chest maybe, but for the most part it's No, it's about a little above my belly button, I guess. I mean I'm six foot four, so I mean that's but yeah, there's some deep holes in that creek. And um, I mean I've think a full wheeler in it. Yeah, he was. He was just jumping through that creek. Whenever you saw it come up out of the creek, were you able to get a good view of it, like the full size of it and everything. I mean, he was probably mean think here sixty five yards maybe from where I was sitting seventy yards tops, So I mean it was hard really the gage, I guess, but I could tell it was much bigger just from looking at it from that distance. I was like, man, that's a big man, you know what I mean. That's the only way I can really describe it is did you ever put your scope on it? Now? I just sat there and watched it. Man, it was brief. It was maybe i'd say a minute and a half tops. Did it ever give any indication that it knew you were there? Absolutely not. It's like he had his mind made up and he was heading somewhere. But yeah, I don't think he caught wind to me because the wind was coming from my back and it was going in the direction he was going, so there's no way he could smelt me. Now, typically I don't know that the exact setup you had at that location, but a lot of times hunters will set up deer tend to follow the same routes in and out of an area you know, they know about at one time of the day and come back at another time of the day. Was this thing coming from a direction that might lead you to believe it was following the deer path? Oh? Yeah, he was right on a game trail, man. That's why I was sitting on that ridgeline, because as deer will come slipping down that creek here in the middle of the day and they'll go up into them pines because it's sticking there, and they'll bed down in the evening. So I mean, I was sitting in the same tree that I killed a buck in the year before, the fact that I can remember which tree it is, in the middle of the thousand makeup plot. Yeah, never ending indication that something out of the ordinary was hanging out there before then. Never, Nope. I felt more comfortable sitting up that tree stand alone in the middle of nowhere than I would being in the middle of the city. So after this thing walks off and gets out of you, what do you do. So at this point in time, I'm sitting there after he gets out of you, it's almost pretty much dark. I could barely see the ground, and I'm like, holy shit, you know, I gotta get down out of my tree. Excuse the language, But at that point, at that point in time, though, I wasn't thinking bigfoot. I wasn't you know, thinking anything like that. I didn't believe in anything like that. I've seen all the stuff on TV growing up, on the History Channel. But I just I was like, nah, come on, man, I've been in there was my whole entire life. Something's out there. I'd have done seen it by now because I turkey hunt in deer hunt in camp fish like all year round. So but I wasn't thinking anything like that. So I just, you know, get down out of my tree and take my climber off the tree and put it together like a backpack. Because it was I think Saturday evening and we were going back home, back to Florida, and so I didn't want to leave my climber in the tree because I didn't know when I was going to be back to get it. So I took it apart, and you can put it together like a backpack, and it's got you know, strap backpack traps. You can carry it through the woods. So I got it home and come out of those pines and step off in the road and I'm walking down the trail, you know, it's just a little bitty pig trail and get to the almost to the edge of these pines and on. So when you step out on the edge of the pines, it's just a big sage grass field. It's like that golden colored like grass like almost looks like wheat. You know, it's about you know, waist high. Yeah, it's just a big just a big field of it. And on the other side of that field, yes, a truck. And you know, I can see my dad at the truck because the dome light is on on the inside of a truck. So I took one step out of the woods, you know, and something scream yelled, hollered, whatever you want to call it. And dude, it was it was so loud, like I could feel a reverberate from my body. It's like if you've been doing like a rock concert, you can feel the base, you know, just boom boom, like it's like making your clothes move. That's what it felt like. And I dropped that climber, dude, and Iran and I never went back to get it. Yeah, what'd you say to your dad when you got to the truck. M Well, the first thing, you know, I got out of the truck. I was wide eyed, and he was like, what's the matter? I said, did you hear that? He said? Yeah. I was like, what do you think I was? He's like, oh, I could have been a dog or something. You know. He didn't. He didn't think much of it, and to this day he doesn't think it was nothing. You know. Every time I tried to talk about it with him, he's like hogwash, you know, yeah, which makes me wonder did he actually see something a long time ago and not want to relive it and talk about it and just forget it or what? Because he hunts just as much as I do, and I assume hunted the same area as that for quite a lot. Oh yeah, my whole pretty much most of my childhood into my teenage years, and also here at home on the public land where he bow hunts at. There has been numerous reports of these things messing with the hunters out there. I've been spending a lot of time out there. Before you got to the edge of the field and heard the scream, the vocalization, after you got down out of the tree and packed up and everything, did you feel nervous or afraid at any point in time during this whole encounter, until the scream, not at all. I felt like it was just a normal night getting out of the woods, and it just looked like, you know, in my head, I was like, you know, that was just somebody walking through the woods, you know, could have got lost, could have been a homeless guy or whatever. You know. I didn't think much of it. It was just like another night, get down of my tree, you know, going back to the truck. I mean, I did find it odd that somebody come walking through there, you know, because I'm on private land versus public land, right, So I did find that odd, But I just kind of just shook it off like it was nothing. Just keep well. Did you make a mental connection between the scream and what you had seen? No, I didn't. Um It's almost like trying to think of the best way to put this. Um. It's almost like I phased out for like a brief second, like I don't know, it was I didn't know what to for a brief second. I didn't know whether to stay there or run. Huh, Yeah, it was. It was. It was weird, man, it was I don't know it's just because of how loud it was and how much I felt it go through my body, like I was just kind of like shook a little bit. I don't know, that's really interesting. I mean, you know, we'll get more into this. But as time went on and you got older, you started investigating this stuff out in the field, and I'm sure that you're familiar with a lot of the various theories out there, including infras out and yeah, no, I believe that's I believe that's a real thing. You know. Tigers use it to kind of stun their prey in place, you know, to make them easier to get, and it kind of sounds like that's what you experienced. You know. I've thought about that over the years, um, but I just wasn't sure because it was so long ago, man, And I mean I still remember, I still remember everything that happened, you know, and how I felt. But it's just I don't know if I could just go back in time to like relive the feeling that I would happened that brief second, you know, i'd like to know. I was going to say, you're quad only like fourteen at the time. Thirteen thirteen, jeez, yeah. I mean that's a lot to process for a thirteen year old boy. Yeah. Yeah, but I just, you know, I kind of just wrote it off. I didn't hunt like the next year or two after that. Um, I came up with excuses to not, you know, go hunting, because just the scream, the yell is what really screwed me up. I mean I still hear it in my sleep sometimes. Jeez. Yeah, I'll carry you that with me the rest of my life. I'll never I'll never forget it. Um. But yeah, it's uh, it took me a little bit to get back to where I was comfortable being in the woods again. UM, I will tell you this though, I'm not a fan of being in the woods at night unarmed anymore. Yeah, but I mean, given everything I've got, I mean, it'll only be for protection purposes only. Like, I would never try to kill one of these things. I'm completely against it. But if it was like me or it, you know, I'm gonna go out blazing. Yeah, man, all bets are off. Then. Yeah. So when did you decide to like start actively pursuing these things. Well, as I got a little bit older, you know, going in you know, through middle school and there was more things coming out on television, you know, about big Foot and stuff, and I just kind of started watching on TV one day and people were describing some of the things they saw. I was like, you know, that's kind of similar to what I experienced a little bit, just silhouette of a big dark man, you know. And then YouTube came about when I was in high school and people started posting stuff with like audio clips of these things screaming in the woods and all kinds of stuff, and I'm like, oh my gosh, man, I've been hearing these sounds my entire life and I didn't even know what it was. And that's when everything clicked, you know, and came a whole piece because over my years growing up with my dad, I would always tell my dad, you know, I heard some the words. It didn't sound right, you know, that was odd, or it just didn't sound normal, or it was something I've never heard before, and he would just be like, I would play tricks on you. That is interesting about how he just kind of continues to, you know, brush it off as nothing. Yeah, I know, but I don't. I don't poke at him about it, right, He'll like, we actually spoke on the phone to day and he asked me know how my bigfoot stuff was going, and I was like, damn, he's actually once you know what's going on. So yeah, I told him what was going on, and told him there's a lady's house not far from here. I've been working her poverty now for a couple of weeks and she's got stuff going on up there. You ended up getting some pretty interesting video, yeah, that you posted. Would you mind talking about that a little bit? Yeah, for sure. Um. So at this point in time in my life, um, I was married, I had a five year old son, five going on six at this point in time, and I was managing a restaurant on the beach, so it was a very busy restaurant. I barely had time off and my days off for the middle of the week. I never could have weekends off, so I, you know, get up, take him to school, and I'd go to the woods all day and hike whatever. Because I didn't have time to hunt anymore. So I picked up hiking, and you know, I was coming out of the woods one day middle of the week. I think it was a Wednesday afternoon, probably around like one thirty two o'clock. And I'm coming out of the woods and there's a big power line and it goes all the way to the river. If you literally parked the truck and walk down this huge power line, it's just a clear cut. You'll run right all you'll literally walk into Shoal River. So I pulled up there and I'm sitting there, rolled the windows down, turn the car off. You know, it's Los Hilly, but I prefer the cold weather because I got my big jacket on, I got the windows down. Wind's blowing a little bit, and I see something come walking out of the woods. First I thought it was somebody, and then I realized how dark colored it was, and I'm like, wait a minute, that's a little odd. I look down my watch and thought it was pushing almost two o'clock. I'm like, someone's gonna be out here deer hunting. They're gonna be in their true stand by now. And the wind's blowing like hell. No one's gonna be bow hunting in this weather. And it's on a Wednesday afternoon, And if you're slipping through the woods. Most hunters wear Hunters Orange, and the archery area out here, you don't have to wear it. Bow hunting, but you figured they'd still wear it slipping through the woods at least just to be smart. But I didn't think much of it, you know. But it was still weighing heavily on my the line a little bit, and it started picking things up off the ground, like crawling around on its hands and knees. And I'm like, too, what is this guy doing? But I started thinking about it, and as I'm sitting here watching him, like, man, people don't do that. That's that's not normal. And it got up and started walking again, and that's when I pulled up my phone started recording. I was sitting in my driver's seat recording. Had it zoomed all the way in? And I got out of the car and walked all the way to the gated cable in front of me, you know, filming this thing. I've gotten so much backlash like why didn't you zoom man? Why didn't you zoom in? And I was zoomed all the way in on this iPhone thirteen that I'm speaking on right now. He was five hundred and sixty four yards from where I was standing. But just the color of it, man, was just odd. And once it gets to the other side of the power line. I walked back to my car. First thing I do is I FaceTime my mom and she was like, you look like you've just seen a ghost. She's like, your fate. Your face is sheet paper white. I said, Mom, I'm looking at something, but I don't know what I'm looking at. And it's looking at me. And at this point in time, it's literally on the edge of the tree line and has its hands reached out on each side around two small pine saplings, and it starts rocking back and forth, and you could see these pine saplings moving. I wish I'd caught that on film. Man, Oh my gosh, I wish I could have. But I didn't think much of it. You know, i'd believe to go get my kid. But yeah, So I put that video up and Matt Moneymaker from BFR got ahold of me and asked me if I would start a YouTube channel, and I said, yeah, sure, why not. I never thought about it, so I did and boom, it blew up. You know, I'm thinking, I'm moms at forty thousand views on YouTube with that video, and I've had numerous people reach out to me about that video, and I've meant a lot of good people that are interested in the subject. You know, it's good community. Doug Hicheck took a look at it, didn't he. Yeah, he did. Um, he told me to send it into him. I'll reach something. My buddy Matt, And because he sent stuff to Doug before, he's like, oh, yeah, Doug was a cool guy. You know, He's like, here's his contact info, you know, reach out to him. He fell him, Sure, he'll look at it, so he did, and his analysis is pretty interesting. Um, the way he was able to actually inspect the image. Um, it's very very interesting. How he talked about there's literally no head bob. I think he said everything was monochromatic. M it was chocolate brown head to toe. He pulled hundreds of pixels just he he, I don't know. It's people. If whoever's listening, If you guys want to go watch it, go to my channel Tyler Howell Outdoors on YouTube and hear what he has to say, because he can go in detail with this a lot better than I can. But um, he did tell me it was the most intriguing piece of foodge he's seen all year. Yeah, it's definitely worth a look for sure. Like he said, you know, it's over five hundred yards away from you. You're using a phone, You're just holding the phone in your hand, so all those things come into play. But you, I mean, for as far away as this thing is, it's got to be pretty big. Oh yeah, it's got some definite mass to it. And you can tell it's all one color. And you know, you said, what five hundred and sixty four yards from where you were? Yeah, we're approximately five hundred and sixty four yards. So were you able to walk out there and find where it was in the video and everything? I didn't go out there that day because I had to leave to go pick up my son from the bus, but I did go out there not too long after and found some tracks all down, all up and down that creek. I've got a picture of one of them on my phone, because I mean, once you get used to seeing them all the time, Like I just quit taking pictures of him, because it's almost like it's almost like seeing deer sign on the ground. But there was a there was a father and son from somewhere in Alabama that came down to where that video happened. I can't remember their names to save my life. But they went out there on that power line. I guess camped really didn't get a permit or nothing, just one out there in camp in the middle of that power line, and they captured something on thermal and you can clear as day see it's bipedo standing up and down. And he shot the video in two different spectrums, one where everything's white and the heats black, and then the next one where is everything's black and the heat's white. And it was pacing back and forth in the tree line on that video. And then he called me the next morning and told me that thing ran him out of roots. It started like grunting at him and bellowing at him and throwing stuff at him and him and his kid. Any idea what it was doing on its hands and knees, Man, I don't know. I mean, there's no there's nothing out there to eat like, it's all like pretty rough stuff to walk on. I mean, there's I don't know what could have been doing. There's no like gooseberry like wild gooseberries that grow up and down that creek. But I know of I didn't see any down there. But also wasn't the time of year for him. It was wintertime. I mean we talked, you know, the first time, about maybe it being like a field mouse or something, or yeah, right, maybe it was going after bugs or something. I mean, there's really no telling, but it makes even less sense for a human to be doing it. Oh yeah, people don't do that. I mean, I've spent a lot of time in the woods man, especially in public land, and I've never seen anybody get on their hands and knees calling all over the ground. Yeah, that's weird. He talked about it swam back and forth between the trees like it had its hand, like it was holding onto two saplings and rocking back, holding on the two saplings and going back and forth. And every time he'd go one direction, both those saplings would have been one direction, and when he'd go back the other direction, both saplings will go that direction. I mean, again, just speculating, but that doesn't make sense for it to be a person at all. Oh, I know. And that's when I ruled out that it was somebody, because I looked over my right shoulder for a brief second, and there's a not so where that thing came out at. There's an old dim road. Well the start of that old dim road is over my right shoulder about eighty ninety yards. If there would have been a truck park there or a car, I would have seen it. There's only one way in down that road and one way out. Yeah, that's that's strange, man, definitely if you're listening, go check it out on YouTube Tyler holl Outdoors. Yeah. So since then, what have you been up to? Man? Just you know, doing investigations? U People have, you know, slowly but surely started reaching out to me. I guess because I've been you know, posting stuff in a bunch of different group pages. If anyone has encounters or sightings or have experiences, you know, please reach out. And it's got right now. There's a couple of local places that I've been kind of doing some research on and there's definitely some stuff going on, especially up in Alabama. What what kind of stuff are you experiencing? Um? So, there's a man up there is named flat Rock. He lives in the middle of nowhere, but he's he's got a few of these things living on his property. That's typically if I want to interact or try to interact with these things at night, the best place I can go to is his property, so all the land around him is all owned by the Timber company, but all those pine trees have what's called pine beetles in them, so none of that luver is able to be harvested, so they don't go out there and maintain it nothing. His driveway is literally the service road to get to it, and he's been up there, I think seven or eight years, and he's never seen a truck come down there. But yeah, they'll come up and jump on the porch, beat on the house. It's unt I haven't been there for where they jumped on the porch. He has, and his brother has because his brother lives with him, but um, yeah, it's they'll come smack the vinyl signing on the house. So he's got a microphone that he hangs outside of his bathroom window on the back side of his double wide trailer, and that's pretty much where the tree line is into this property known by the Timber Company. And we'll go inside and listen, you know, on the iPad to everything outside, or you can put the headphones on and listen and you'll literally hear him come. Sounds like somebody just come walking out of the creek. Yep. You know, up to the back of his house and he's got a five gallon bucket hanging on a stop on a pine tree I think, or might be an oak tree right at the barbar fence line behind his bedroom, I mean bathroom window. And he has he sent me some adio not long ago. And you can hear this thing. Come walk out of the woods, up to the bucket and take a bite out of this apple and start chewing on it. Wow it but it literally sounds like it's just somebody out there chewing on an apple. Yeah, And I know this man's not gonna go out there and do it because he's handicapped. It's very it's very hard for him to kind of get out in the woods like he used to. He didn't really stuff around the woods much. And unless I come up there to his house or someone else does. And he doesn't like meaning in the woods after dark because of what happens up there. Is he afraid of him? Oh yeah, yeah. When it starts getting to about the hour, these things are going to start getting active. He goes inside, all sit on the porch and he'll listen. He'll put the headphones on and listen to the iPad and he'll tell me like, hey, I hear something coming up slipping around the backside of the house. Be looking. And you know, I'll be sitting on the porch from my thermal because they'll walk up to that porch where his light was at. Before he got his porch built on, it was just the steps going into the trailer. So we'd sit on the steps and you know, smoke cigarette and you could literally see their eyeshine in the tree line, because the tree line from his front door is maybe twenty steps. Oh wow, yeah, and you can literally see their eyes glowing in the tree line. It literally they look like the size of like silver dollars, like a half dollar, you know, how big around they are, That's what it looked like. And you could literally see them blink. What color was the eyeshine it was? It was like a golden brownish ambush color. That's That's like the only thing I can really describe it as it because I'm I know, the color of a deer, you know, kind of all I've seen him in the woods. Minute it was I've never seen anything with that kind of color glowing like that. It was just it was weird. It was it was almost like amber colored. I would say, I know every situation is different. Um, And I don't even know that you'd be able to answer this question. But as much as they do to avoid humans, why do you think they're coming up to his house like that? Either they don't want him there, or they just want to get a reaction out of us. I guess to see how we're gonna they might get a kick out of it. I don't know, man, we really don't know. Um. I've been going up there for bran at two years now. M. Yeah, it's it's pretty interesting what goes on up there. Man. Has he had stuff happening the whole time he's been there. He's well, so originally started he would see them briefly out in the yard or walking through the woods, and he was thinking it was like a trespasser, you know, he knew where, he knows, someone just wandering through his property. He didn't think anything up Well, his brother's the first one that ran into one of these things. He was coming out tree stay in it and it was after dark and he had an old flip foam and he flipped he flipped it on and that that was his light coming through the woods. So he could see just enough to walk, but he wouldn't, you know, disturb the deer too much. Yeah, and he said he pretty much damn near walked into his chest and looked up and there he was. Oh jeez. And to this day his brother stopped tunning. He will not go in those woods, even in the daytime. I mean, I can't say I really blame him coming that close to one. And you know, yeah, masses about as they are, they would come up. So he didn't have blinds in his room, they'd come up and peek in the window as he's watching TV. He boarded up his window. You know, that's that's a pretty common thing to hear in locations where they're coming up to the houses, them peeking in the windows at people. And yeah, yeah, that's they'd peek in the window at his brother all the time. And his brother's tired of dealing with these things, and so is his mama. His mama lives in another house on the same piece of property, maybe sixty yards or so from where his house is at. And they're both moving off the property because they're tired of dealing with them. Do they have any animals, any dogs or anything? They have dogs, but they don't let them go out in the woods or anything. Because his brother's dog got his brother's first dog got killed. They never found him, just disappeared, just disappeared. Man, Do they leave any food out for the dogs or anything outside. Well, he used to keep dog food and cat food on his back porch, and then they jump on the back porch and start getting into cat food and dog food at his mama's house, and he'd have to guard and kick hipling the back door and blow his airhorn out these things. They can't stay in that air horn, he tells me every time we go up there. They are horns your best line of defense because they can't stand it. You know. Again, the pet food outside is another thing you hear a lot about in these type situations. Yeah. Well, they also have to burn their trash or take or back it up in a truck and take it to the dunk because they don't have garbage service out there. I mean, he's out in the middle of nowhere. You mentioned a lady's property earlier. What's going on with it? Oh? Yeah, So she lives r outside of the right outside of the small town called the Funiac Springs, and she has seen one of these things walking in the tree line, and she has sent me some audio of one of them. Eh, they're yelling in the creek and it sounds like a primitive man just out there hollering in the creek in the middle of the night. Her kids have seen it getting picked up by the bus driver going to school, and her husband. You know, they've told me everything that's happened up there, and so I'm fixing good do a night investigation up there here, pretty Sam. And then you've gone out with Stacy Brown Junior. Yeah, and a bunch of people. Have you had any experiences with him or anything when we when we went to I think it was as Scilla when I was with him, the first time I ever met up with him. Um. I think we had some vocalizations at one point in time, but other than that, nothing really happened. And then we met up again and went to Mayaka and went to the um Crowley Nature of Science Museum and there's an old house that they have there called Tatum House. I think it was built like eighteen eighteen ninety three something like that. Well, I mean it's it's a home house. Um. I was there. Connor Flynn you know with Bigfoot of Don and Matt with Supernatural yea, yeah, and the Matt was Supernatural Spectrum. He was there with us and capture some good audio and I mean, yeah, it was a good time and we had some Skunk Cape. I guess activity happened while we were down there. Um someone had acorns being thrown at their tent um. It sounds like, you know, we heard some kind of chattering monkey chatter going out in the woods. But I don't know. I'm thinking that was might have been too who I was going at it. It was just so hard to tell. Yeah, my ACA obviously famous for the Skunk Cape. Did you experience any paranormal activity yourself in the Tatum House? Yeah, um so me. Stacy, Matt carr Um, a couple of owner if RPG was in the house with us at this point in time. I think he was out with some of the other people out in the woods doing big Foot stuff. But um, yes, Stacy had the rimpod going and other stuff going in I had my camera in front of me and I'm recording on my camera. I'm also recording on my iPhone and you know, he's asking questions. You know, if Laura's here with us tonight and all this stuff, and it starts lightening up, making noises, and then my camera shut off as I do, my camera just shut off. I was like, literally, it's just a full battery. It's dead. And I'd been filming for three minutes. Yeah, he had the spirit box going and heard some answers come through the spirit box, like he asked, you know how many of y'all are with us tonight, And it's all static on the spirit box and then you hear Dominant three come out of the radio. Then he goes right back to static again, and I was like, wow, that would be creepy. Yeah, and then he was like, save a cuss word for us, and then a cuss word would come out of the radio and I'm like, oh shit, maybe that's wild. Have you guys ever tried using that equipment out in the big Foot field? I haven't. I mean a parabolic mic, I guess would be. I would say one of the closest things I've used. I've never used kind of meters like that, because from my understanding, if you have your phone on, if your phone's powered on period while you're using these things in your hand, if your phone in your pocket. It will make the meeters jump. I guess that's what I've heard from a lot of people. And you know people, you know, they have earned research techniques. But I'm not having my phone off because if something happens, I need that phone on and be able to operate, you know what I mean. Yeah, yeah, because I go in the woods by myself, so I literally never have people go in the woods with me. It's usually just me. So I'm pretty pumped that Dave's gonna ride out this weekend. Yeah, Dave, good buddy of mine. Calling all beans goes by DJU good guy. I hope you guys, you know, get something, have some luck out there. Yeah, I mean, dude, man, um, So we're gonna go walk around in the woods for a couple of hours. We're gonna meet up around like a lunch time so we can see if we can find some sign and then we'll go sit right by this big sandbar on the river once it gets dark and build a fire and just listen and you know, shoot the bull. If nothing happens, you know, it's still a good company, good time, because I mean ninety percent of the time I'm in the woods, nothing ever happens. Yeah, and there's times, man, where it gets so frustrating because it's like, man, I might here three to four days a week, you know, I hit till one o'clock on the morning, you know, and when I start getting you know, aggravated about it, that's usually when something happens. So what keeps you going? What's your motivation for all this? What are you hoping to accomplish? Man, I'm for me, it's just to learn everything I can about these things and just learn to live with him, you know what I mean. A lot of people create channels, you know, to prove the existence of these things, and that's I don't need to prove the existence of them because I've seen them twice one for sure. Second maybe on that video during the day, but I've you know, had them fifteen steps from me in the woods at night, looking at them through the thermal. So it's it's it's mostly just for I guess, just having fun, you know. I just I enjoy it. I mean I stopped deer hunting to do this pretty much full time because everything that usually goes on around here, it's typically during hunting season when the leaves start falling, that's when most of the activity I experience happens, and it goes all the way till spring, and then one spring hits I'm pretty much done through the summer because it's just too hot. Muggy Mesquite is a totoo off. It's just it's miserable. From from what I've heard, a lot of the environments out there are very jungle, like, very thick in Florida. Yeah, up here in mind Nick, the woods is the complete opposite. Really, Oh yeah, no, it's so. When we were down in Ayaka, I don't know how many times I told Stacy as we're walking through the woods, I'm like, dude, there are vines in here that Tarzan can swing. I think they used to film the old Tarzan series out there, actually, Dude, Like it's literally like you feel like you're walking around like in Jurassic Park, you know, just from how the vegetation is up here. Man, it's just pine trees and roland hills. Do you think it's the same type critter in the two different areas or do you think there's different types to these things? Man? To be honest, I really don't know. I mean I believe there's different types of them, because people will port them in different shapes and sizes and colors all over the United States. You typically, you know, down here, you don't hear about them being ten twelve foot like you do up in Pacific Northwest California, New England, you know, like down here. I mean, I wouldn't say they don't. I don't think they would get over eight feet. That's is my opinion. I could be wrong. I'm not an expert, but just from some of the things that's happened at nighttime and seeing their eyeshine for how reasonably close they are, I mean, I would say no bigger than eight feet. But that's just that's just my guests, and given some things that have happened up with that. You know, that man's house in Alabama, we've you know, we've been sitting there and they'll you know, slap the vinyl signing in the house. Where's bedroom is? And where do you hear the smack being hit? I mean it's pretty good ways up off the ground. Yeah. So it's ota where do you stand with the whole flesh and blood versus paranormal thing. I believe that there's two sides to every story, So I mean, I believe it's flesh and blood. I believe if it could be killed, but I also believe that it might have some ability to do things that we don't quite understand. Because you hear the Native Americans talk about them having you know, supernatural some have supernatural powers, you know, different abilities. I mean, so what are you gonna do? Call all those Native Americans liars that have been living for thousands of years? You know what I mean? Right, So it's like, I don't know. I believe, I believe they are flesh and blood. I do believe that they can be killed, but I also believe that they have abilities that we just don't understand. It's kind of where I'm at with it, man, to be honest at this point. Anyway, I always tell people I can change my mind anytime I want. But right, yeah, yeah, you know, I was flesh and blood for a long time. But now it's more like I've talked to so many different people and heard so many different stories, and a lot of those stories have striking similarities and little details that just run true across the board, And right now I'm kind of like, well, why does it have to be one or the other. Why can't it be a combination of both and possibly other things that we don't even understand yet. Oh right, will be you here people all the time talking about having a bigfoot counter than seeing a UFO or having a bigfoot counter and seeing an orb you. So it's just I don't know, man, I believe there's some kind of I believe there's something going on there without a doubt, because there's been so many people that I've listened to, you know, on different podcasts and hearing stories about like seeing them walk behind a tree and then never coming out. It's like they just disappeared, you know. So it's it's I'm not going to call them personal a liar or tell them that you know they're full of it, because I mean, nope, technically bigfoot doesn't even exist. So whether you just have an encounter like mine, or you have one to where he landed, you know, on the ground, whether in a UFO and walked out, kima jumped in your house, you know, whether it's it's it's still out there, you know what I mean, it's a very uncommon thing. So it's I mean, I can't call him a liar because I mean we both had just different experiences, and if you've had an encounter with something you can't explain, shoot me an email at Bigfootcrossroads at gmail dot com, check out the website Bigfootcrossroads dot com and until next time, I remember there's something in the woods.
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