251 | Becoming a Person of Impact: Beyond the Playroom in 2025

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You're listening to the Play Therapy Podcast with Dr.

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Brenna Hicks,

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your source for centered and focused play therapy coaching.

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Hi,

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I'm Dr. Brenna Hicks,

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The Kid Counselor.

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This is the Play Therapy Podcast where you get

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a master class in child-centered play therapy

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and practical support and application for your

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work with children and their families.

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In today's episode,

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we are live,

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which is a very exciting moment for me.

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So thank you to all of you who are here,

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and we are talking about impact today.

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One of the things that I think is

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something that we all want

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is impact.

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I don't think we do this job

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if we are not wired

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to want to make an impact with other people and in the world.

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And I think that the beauty of what we do

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is we are often

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not

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in a position to have an existential crisis.

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So let me explain what I mean by that.

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I think many people hit a point in their lives

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where they start to say,

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is this really what I'm meant to do?

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Is this making a difference in the lives of other people?

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You know,

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if you're an accountant or if you are an IT person

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or if you're

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some other kind of job,

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I think that many people reach a point where they start to wonder if this is truly

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what they meant or meant to do and what makes them happy.

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We never have that.

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I don't think we ever reach a point where we say,

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I don't think I'm making a difference.

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I don't think that I have impact.

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But here's what I think,

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because we're wired to be givers

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and servers and helpers,

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I also think that

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we often don't see beyond the immediate,

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because we know that we're giving and we know that we're serving,

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and we know that we're helping.

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So interestingly,

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I think sometimes that gets in our way.

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And one of the things that I've worked a lot on when I coach,

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is helping people grasp this concept of the amount of impact that they want to have.

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And that's what we're diving into today.

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Let's backstory though.

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So often I think that

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we settle

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for being overworked.

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And underpaid

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And drained

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and stressed and burned out.

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And we've come to accept that as quote part of our job.

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And I've had so many therapists say to me,

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well,

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I didn't go into this career to make good money.

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well,

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if I wanted to get rich,

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I never would have pursued therapy.

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And I understand where that's coming from,

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but I also think that

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to have the impact that we want,

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we have to give out of the overflow.

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So one of the things that we have to

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start kind of rewiring for ourselves is this conditioned response

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that

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we are OK with settling,

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because I think when we settle,

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that means that our desire for impact also settles.

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So we're going to kind of process that since this is early 2025.

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When we think about this next coming year.

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And everything that this next 12 months are going to bring.

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One of the things that I think is one of the most powerful components

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is the level of impact that we want.

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In other words,

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We know that we're impacting our clients.

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We know we're impacting those families.

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But what about beyond that?

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Where are the degrees of impact that we can have

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beyond just the work that we're doing clinically?

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Not that that's not important.

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Let me be really clear.

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The work that we do,

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you know,

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I think about the starfish analogy.

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There's the story,

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I don't know if you all know that story,

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but there's someone walking on the beach throwing starfish back into the

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ocean and someone comes up alongside of him or her and says,

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Why are you wasting your time?

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There's thousands of starfish on this beach.

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Why are you wasting your time?

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And the person says,

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it mattered for that one.

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I know the world is big and I know there

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are kids hurting all over the world in the millions.

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It's not to undermine the impact that you have with that

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one client that's in your playroom at that given hour.

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That's so important,

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and the impact is tangible

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for that child and that family.

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And I've I've often thought about that.

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I'm going on a side turn here for a second,

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I've often thought about that.

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My very first client ever,

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Jacob is his name,

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by the way,

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my very first client ever.

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in 2005.

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And he reached out recently

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to my office,

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looked me up,

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found me.

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Reached out,

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is now 27.

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Does that not blow your mind?

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Oh my gosh.

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He's 27

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and says,

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I'm starting work with a psychologist and my psychologist was wondering

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if I could have records from my mental health treatment.

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you know,

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we were wondering if you had any records from when I worked with you,

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and we keep records for 7 years,

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so I didn't even have records anymore.

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But the point is,

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you know,

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he reached out

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and I thought

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he's 27 and he remembers coming to play with me.

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He remembers my name,

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he looked me up.

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The impact that we have in every single one of these kids' lives,

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it's incredible.

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The relationship that is built persists.

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And I've had a lot of therapists come and say,

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you know,

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I only got to see that kid for 44 sessions.

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I only got to see that kid for 2 months.

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You know,

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this happened,

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this happened,

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this happened.

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I didn't get to finish treatment with that kid,

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and I wonder what,

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what that meant for that kid.

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I wonder what

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impact that might have had.

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And I always say

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for that hour,

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8 hours that that child was with you,

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they'll never forget it.

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So we know we have impact,

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and I think we celebrate that.

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I think we

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are proud of that,

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yet.

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What can we do to work toward higher levels of impact?

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And one of the things that I

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think about a lot,

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and one of the things that I focus on

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how do we scale that?

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So we know we have

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client impact,

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we know we have family impact,

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we know we have community impact.

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The community in which you work.

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You impact them

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And that's a gift to you and to them.

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But what about in your state

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or in your region

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or in your province,

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your territory,

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your country?

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What about a little bit bigger?

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What about the impact you might wanna have on the field at large?

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What what kind of impact do you wanna have

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as a play therapist?

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What impact do you want to have on children's therapy as a whole?

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Maybe outside of the play therapy arena.

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What impact do you want to have within child-centered play therapy?

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What impact do you want to have globally?

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And impact has a lot of paths,

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right,

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because it can be impact professionally.

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I want to

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have multiple centers that serve hundreds of families.

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I want to have,

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clinical impact in all of these different capacities,

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but sometimes it's

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the ability to have personal impact,

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sometimes it's something that's really important to

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you that really matters to you.

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For me,

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I taught English in Honduras,

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there is

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a deep,

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deep,

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special place in my heart for Honduras.

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There always will be.

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So when I think impact,

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when I think global,

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it almost always goes there.

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What do I want to do for the country of Honduras?

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What I wanna do for the people of Honduras?

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there's this sense of

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we have to give out of the overflow.

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If we are depleted,

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if we have nothing left in our tanks,

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if our cups are empty,

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We have no impact because there's nothing there.

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So when we don't take care of ourselves,

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when we get burned out,

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when we let stress take over,

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when we get overworked,

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when we're struggling to pay our bills because

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accept the fact that we're going to be poor

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to do this work.

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it's really just a hindrance to the impact that we can have.

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I'd like you,

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as you kind of envision this year and the impact that you might have,

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I'd like you to start thinking about yourself as a person of impact.

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If that can become part of your self-description,

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your narrative,

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when you talk about yourself and when you think about yourself,

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if you can start thinking and saying out loud,

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I'm a person of impact.

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It's going to rewire everything.

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And why I love that is because what we say about ourselves,

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there's a self-fulfilling prophecy component there.

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So when we say I'm a person of impact,

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we will become a person of impact,

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and I know often when we think big like that,

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it's like,

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oh my gosh,

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I have no idea how I'll ever get there.

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I have no idea what that will look like.

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I have no idea how to conceive

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of whatever it is that big goal or dream is.

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But here's what I know.

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When you dream big

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and you write it down

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and you make it known.

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It has a way of getting you

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closer to it.

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And often what happens is the impact that you want or the dream that you have,

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or the vision that you cast,

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when it finally is realized,

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it's not exactly what you thought it was going to be in the first place.

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There's almost always a deviation,

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there's almost always a shift,

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but it's still powerful.

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And often what started as this is kind of where I want to go with this,

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it blossoms into something completely different and most of the time it's better.

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So when you dream big,

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you have to have a plan.

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And I know this is a little bit more of

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like a pep talk episode rather than a clinical episode,

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but I think as CCPTs,

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we have this very unique opportunity and this very unique platform.

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To think about ourselves as a person of impact

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and tangibly do something

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to have that unfold in front of us.

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the way my brain works

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is I reverse engineer things.

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by the end of 2025,

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I want to have local craftsmen in Honduras making toys so that every child

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in a Honduran orphanage has their own toy and they don't have to share.

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That is actually one of my goals for Impact,

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by the way,

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I didn't make that up.

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If I have that in my head,

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by the end of 2025,

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this is what I want,

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you reverse engineer your year.

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So what quarterly

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do I need to do

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to make sure that I'm moving in that direction?

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So every 3 months,

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what does that look like?

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what do I need to do monthly within the quarter

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to have

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that.

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A little bit closer to the goal.

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And then what do I need to do weekly

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to make sure that I'm hitting my monthly goals?

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All of a sudden now,

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your massive dream,

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this view of impact that you think you might want to have,

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it's more broken down in tangible steps.

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And the beauty of that is it doesn't

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seem so big and overwhelming and daunting anymore.

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So your impact is very closely linked

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to taking one small step.

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But you have to have the vision first and you have to have the idea of impact.

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I've had so many therapists say

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I want to serve a specific population in my community that I feel is underserved.

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I want to partner with parents in the community

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to make sure that we have community-wide change.

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I want to offer parenting programs

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in libraries and schools and whatever.

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Many CCPTs lately have been telling me they want

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to get teachers on board with CCPT principles.

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And if we can influence the education system

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with what we're doing,

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it has massive impact.

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So there's all of this clinical stuff.

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But then there's all of this personal stuff.

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What fires you up?

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What excites you?

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What

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is something you're passionate about?

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What is something that you can't seem to let go of?

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It just always has a hold of you in some way.

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That's another way you can have impact.

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And I think that when we start thinking

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in those terms.

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I think that it helps us not be satisfied with just doing therapy.

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just doing therapy is enough.

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Let me,

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let me just make that very clear.

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If all we ever do is CCPT for our whole career,

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we've made huge impact.

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Yet I think there's more

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that we have to offer,

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and I think there's more that we can do,

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and I think there's more we can contribute to the field.

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if you set yourself up in this next year.

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To take these tangible steps.

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It gets you closer to the impact that you want to have,

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and impact comes

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long term.

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you may not see it realized right away,

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but we're working toward it all the while,

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and I think that that inspires us,

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it encourages us,

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it gives us a why,

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the why matters,

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right?

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It gives us a why.

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We're always going back to

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why am I working to do this?

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Why am I working to make more money?

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Why am I working to

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provide for my family better?

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Why am I working to increase my client load?

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Why am I working to brand and get a website and market myself better?

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Because if you don't have money,

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you don't have impact.

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You have to be able to have tangible income.

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doing good in the world costs money.

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It would be wonderful if every charitable act was free and at no cost.

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anything that you do for the good of others,

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it costs money.

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We can give and serve and that just costs our time,

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but to have any

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significant levels of impact,

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it costs money.

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There's operating costs,

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there's

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Products you have to buy,

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there's all kinds of things associated with it,

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and we give out of the overflow.

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So we have to make sure that we ourselves are at a place where we have overflow

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and we have to make sure that we have financial overflow and then we

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take our skills and our talents and our passions and what matters to us,

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and we pour them into these big dreams of impact

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and guess what?

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The world's a better place for it.

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So,

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there's your early January 2025 pep talk.

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I hope that it inspires you.

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I hope that you start to think about yourself in terms of,

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I'm a person of impact,

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and I know the good that I can do in the world,

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and you start one step at a time,

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making that happen.

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All right,

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super grateful for this event.

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Thank you for being here.

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For those of you who are listening,

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thank you for spending time with me each week.

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You know how much I love you.

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We'll talk again soon.

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Bye.

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Thank you for listening to the Play Therapy Podcast with Dr.

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Brenna Hicks.

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