A Billy Joel History to 1983: Pianos, Pills and Uptown Girls

<v Speaker 1>Shaw m out Virginia anyway.
<v Speaker 2>Hello everybody, and welcome back to the Shirley You Can't
<v Speaker 2>Be Serious podcasts. Ladies and gentlemen, we have a story
<v Speaker 2>coming up for you that involves Billy Joel's manager impersonating
<v Speaker 2>a doctor in order to sneak him out of a
<v Speaker 2>mental hospital that he was in after a failed attempted
<v Speaker 2>suicide in this episode, if you're not going to stick
<v Speaker 2>around to hear that story, then I don't know what
<v Speaker 2>to do with yet. Jason, how are you doing, man?
<v Speaker 3>I'm good man. I've got a story on Billy Joel's
<v Speaker 3>Greatest twenty four Hours in the nineteen eighties that actually
<v Speaker 3>arrived Lionel Richie's Greatest twenty four Hours.
<v Speaker 2>So we are here today doing our second part to
<v Speaker 2>the two parts that we typically do. Last week we
<v Speaker 2>did Lionel Richie Can't Slow Down. This week we are
<v Speaker 2>comparing Billy Joel an innocent man, and because we happen
<v Speaker 2>to know the number one fan in the galaxy for
<v Speaker 2>Billy Joel, we invited our dear friend, mister John Reid
<v Speaker 2>from the thirty something Movie podcast. Mister John Reid from
<v Speaker 2>the Pocket Full of Kryptonite podcast mister John Reid, It's
<v Speaker 2>good to see you, buddy.
<v Speaker 4>How you doing.
<v Speaker 5>Man, Apparently my reputation precedes me, and it's like a
<v Speaker 5>mile long.
<v Speaker 3>That was the longest time, right, there's.
<v Speaker 5>I have looked for when you guys told me about
<v Speaker 5>this one this night in particular, I've looked forward to
<v Speaker 5>for the longest time. So yeah, I know, I know
<v Speaker 5>I'm guilty of that oftentimes, but overall, I'm typically an
<v Speaker 5>innocent man. It's getting to be careless talk, so I'm
<v Speaker 5>just going to leave a tender moment alone.
<v Speaker 2>I'd said, eladies and gentlemen, we're off for the night.
<v Speaker 2>Everybody tip your waitress.
<v Speaker 5>Oh my gosh, No, I'm looking forward to this, And
<v Speaker 5>it's been a while since since I've been able to
<v Speaker 5>talk with you.
<v Speaker 4>Guys.
<v Speaker 5>Are podcast full of Ryptonite still on a little bit
<v Speaker 5>of a hiatus for just a little bit. A Superman
<v Speaker 5>and Lois is coming back soon, so we'll have to
<v Speaker 5>get that back in the rotation.
<v Speaker 4>But it's been a while. It's been a while.
<v Speaker 2>So I was looking up because I needed to send
<v Speaker 2>you the Zoom invite today and we're trying to find
<v Speaker 2>your email and I just searched our texts and look,
<v Speaker 2>and I say to Jason, look, it's exactly three years
<v Speaker 2>ago that I asked him for his email for the
<v Speaker 2>first time. And we just always we pick things that
<v Speaker 2>we know are your favorites. So three years ago we
<v Speaker 2>got together and we did Superman, which of course eventually
<v Speaker 2>spun into podcasts full of Kryptonite. And then we have
<v Speaker 2>of course had you back on to Star Wars Holiday Special,
<v Speaker 2>which was fantastic. And now here we are with mister
<v Speaker 2>Billy Joel. I think the only thing we have left
<v Speaker 2>to do with you is the rocketeer.
<v Speaker 5>Let's do it. We can do the rocketeer in Billy Joel.
<v Speaker 5>At the same time, let's just talk about all.
<v Speaker 3>You ready to dive into the history of mister William
<v Speaker 3>Joel here to sing us a song tonight.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, let's let's do it. So we're gonna take you
<v Speaker 2>back to eighty nine, eighteen eighty nine. Yeah, that's when
<v Speaker 2>a mister Carl Amson Joel was born. Mister Joel was
<v Speaker 2>born in Germany and in nineteen twenty eight he got
<v Speaker 2>himself invested in a textile factory. Was one of the
<v Speaker 2>key players in this textile factory. The only problem was
<v Speaker 2>is that nineteen twenty eight was about five years before
<v Speaker 2>it became the worst time in all of history to
<v Speaker 2>be in Germany because the Nazis so poor Jewish mister
<v Speaker 2>Joel was forced to sell his textile factory to an
<v Speaker 2>Aryan stooge, if you will. He was then forced to
<v Speaker 2>cut the price in half. Then the money was put
<v Speaker 2>in a trust account which he couldn't get access to.
<v Speaker 2>By this time, he has immigrated over to Switzerland with
<v Speaker 2>his wife and his young son, Helmet, who would later
<v Speaker 2>be called Howard. And they are there for a bit,
<v Speaker 2>but ultimately decide they have to get to the United States,
<v Speaker 2>so via France via England via Cuba. Eventually they end
<v Speaker 2>up in the US and he starts another factory. By
<v Speaker 2>nineteen fifty seven, he finally gets paid for his factory
<v Speaker 2>in Germany. And I tell you all that to tell
<v Speaker 2>you this. His young son, Helmut, whose name was Howard,
<v Speaker 2>also in nineteen fifty seven. He was a family man.
<v Speaker 2>He was married with two kids, a little girl named
<v Speaker 2>Judith and a little boy that they called Billy. Both
<v Speaker 2>of them were music prodigies. Howard was a piano prodigy.
<v Speaker 2>Billy was a prodigy by four years old Billy was
<v Speaker 2>take and piano lessons. And then right about the time
<v Speaker 2>that Billy's grandfather gets all of his money, his dad,
<v Speaker 2>Howard says, you know what, I liked Europe better, I'm
<v Speaker 2>going back. Oh and nobody's coming with me. Yeah, And
<v Speaker 2>so he leaves. He goes back to Europe, where he
<v Speaker 2>gets married again, has a second boy named Alexander, who
<v Speaker 2>is now a internationally famous composer. Billy Joel's half brother
<v Speaker 2>is an internationally famous composer named Alexander Joel.
<v Speaker 4>But back to.
<v Speaker 2>Nineteen fifty seven, when he leaves or Billy is he's
<v Speaker 2>got piano lessons that his mom is scraping up to
<v Speaker 2>give him. He's getting made fun of and bullied by
<v Speaker 2>the local Long Island kids, and so he's got a
<v Speaker 2>tough en up a little bit. And so what does
<v Speaker 2>he take up. He takes up boxing.
<v Speaker 3>He went twenty two and four box.
<v Speaker 2>He went twenty two and four had he had twenty
<v Speaker 2>six matches, lost four of them, the last two of
<v Speaker 2>them were by knockout, and so after that he was done.
<v Speaker 2>In that time, he also kept music, so he and
<v Speaker 2>his friends start this high school band. After he has
<v Speaker 2>fallen in love with the Beatles, and they call themselves
<v Speaker 2>the Lost Souls. Huh, you got a story for me?
<v Speaker 3>I got a story for you. So in the third grade,
<v Speaker 3>little William Joel, during their lunch hour, finds a piano
<v Speaker 3>in the lunch room starts playing hound Dog by Elvis Presley. Okay,
<v Speaker 3>and the fourth grade girls go crazy. Keep in mind
<v Speaker 3>he's a third grader. He's like, my mind was gaving
<v Speaker 3>up when the fourth grade girls were going crazy. I
<v Speaker 3>realized I was onto something, yeah, he said. Then he
<v Speaker 3>started to wiggle his hips and he got yanked off
<v Speaker 3>the stage by the school faculty.
<v Speaker 2>Well the seed was planted at that point.
<v Speaker 4>It's too late.
<v Speaker 2>It's like when Prince watched James Brown. He knew this
<v Speaker 2>was what he was destined.
<v Speaker 4>For in life.
<v Speaker 3>He said that the door locked behind him. He was
<v Speaker 3>going to be a musician the rest of his life.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.
<v Speaker 3>So he was the.
<v Speaker 2>Type of kid who would go up to his room
<v Speaker 2>at night and say good night mom, and then sneak
<v Speaker 2>out the window and go hustle around, getting involved in
<v Speaker 2>mischief and stuff. And he was also a kid who
<v Speaker 2>was playing in bands.
<v Speaker 3>And he wasn't really a top notch student. He didn't
<v Speaker 3>graduate from high school right until like nineteen ninety two
<v Speaker 3>or three or something like that.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, honorary ged or something like that.
<v Speaker 3>Right, Okay, mister English teacher may have to weigh in
<v Speaker 3>on this one. But he had a final in English
<v Speaker 3>that was mandatory for his graduation, and because he was
<v Speaker 3>at a gig playing, he slept through that test, didn't
<v Speaker 3>make it. Petitioned the school and they were like, nope, sorry,
<v Speaker 3>you don't graduate, and he's like, well, screw you, guys.
<v Speaker 3>I know I'm gonna be anyway. So what am I
<v Speaker 3>doing fooling around with high school? His words exactly were,
<v Speaker 3>I'm not going to Columbia University. I'm going to Columbia
<v Speaker 3>Records baby.
<v Speaker 5>And then, from what I understand, a quarter of a
<v Speaker 5>century later, he actually submitted his essays to the school
<v Speaker 5>board and they accepted them and gave him his diploma,
<v Speaker 5>like twenty five years after he left the school.
<v Speaker 3>The fact that they actually made him submit those essays,
<v Speaker 3>I mean, with Billy Joe calls and said, hey, kind
<v Speaker 3>of my ged I'd be like, yes.
<v Speaker 2>Never.
<v Speaker 5>In true public teacher fashion, they were like, I don't
<v Speaker 5>care who you are, that that work is late. If
<v Speaker 5>you want the credit you turn it in.
<v Speaker 3>Your essay on to Kill a Mockingbird was due twenty
<v Speaker 3>five years ago.
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to have to mark you down one point
<v Speaker 2>for every year. Latest thick bes Chi can get seventy five.
<v Speaker 2>So mister Joel continues in the music biz. He auditions
<v Speaker 2>for a guy named Erwin Maser Now Erwin ultimately becomes
<v Speaker 2>his manager. At the time, he was just a younger
<v Speaker 2>guy whose dad owned a cool club in a strip center.
<v Speaker 2>Of all places, I did another cool clubs and strip centers,
<v Speaker 2>but that's where Erwin's dad had one, and so he said, hey,
<v Speaker 2>I think you would be the perfect guy to join
<v Speaker 2>the group that I helped manage called the Hassles. The Hassles,
<v Speaker 2>thank you very much. He was still just a piano
<v Speaker 2>player for him, but he started singing more often, especially
<v Speaker 2>when their lead singer left. But ultimately the Hassles ended
<v Speaker 2>up being a hassle. They did two albums, they weren't
<v Speaker 2>well received anywhere, and ultimately the group broke up and
<v Speaker 2>Billy decided to go and form a duo band, a
<v Speaker 2>two piece band with the drummer from the Assholes, and
<v Speaker 2>that guy's name was John Small. What's interesting is that
<v Speaker 2>it's a duo band with a drummer and a keyboard player.
<v Speaker 2>And what's more interesting is they were gonna play heavy metal, right,
<v Speaker 2>that was their plan. They named the band Attila, and
<v Speaker 2>they decided we're going to be super loud, and they were,
<v Speaker 2>in fact so loud they got kicked out of the
<v Speaker 2>one gig that they had.
<v Speaker 3>The.
<v Speaker 1>One and Only California Flies.
<v Speaker 2>Billy is trying his best to find a place to live,
<v Speaker 2>ultimately ends up staying with John Small and his wife, Elizabeth.
<v Speaker 2>Elizabeth isn't super happy with John, her drummer husband, and
<v Speaker 2>so she kind of confides in Billy and is like, hey,
<v Speaker 2>you know here where things are going wrong. And as
<v Speaker 2>typically happens when those types of relationships develop, it very
<v Speaker 2>quickly turned into an affair. The one rule is in
<v Speaker 2>the band, you don't sleep with other band members. Wise
<v Speaker 2>it should be really easy when there's only one band member,
<v Speaker 2>there's only one other guy, only one guy, and he's
<v Speaker 2>the only guy who's married.
<v Speaker 3>Don't sleep with that girl, right, And he couldn't do it. Now.
<v Speaker 3>The interesting thing was they were separated for a time
<v Speaker 3>and Billy Joel thought, well they're separated, it's cool. We're
<v Speaker 3>kind of a trifecta. We were on a break and
<v Speaker 3>so his band member followed them home from a gig
<v Speaker 3>one time and saw them together. When he came in,
<v Speaker 3>Billy had no inkling that what he was doing was
<v Speaker 3>not cool or not all right, and he said, the
<v Speaker 3>guy slugged him out of nowhere. He's like, I've been
<v Speaker 3>punched before, but I'd never been punched that hard when
<v Speaker 3>I completely was not looking for it. Yeah, and then
<v Speaker 3>the guilt rained down on him.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and that stopped him right there. He never had
<v Speaker 2>another relationship with Elizabeth again. No that's not true. No, okay, yeah, no, sorry, Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>the relationship continued and he continue to feel guilty, and
<v Speaker 2>he said, I'm going to I have to tell him
<v Speaker 2>that this is still going on. And she said, if
<v Speaker 2>you tell him, I will leave both of you. And
<v Speaker 2>that pretty well ended things, not only for John and Elizabeth,
<v Speaker 2>but it also ended things for John and Billy. So
<v Speaker 2>nineteen seventy, Attila releases its only album, First and Last,
<v Speaker 2>and nobody liked it anyway. So nineteen seventy also is
<v Speaker 2>when Billy runs away with Elizabeth. They would later get married.
<v Speaker 2>She would later become his manager, but what's most impressive
<v Speaker 2>is we're going to talk about a video later on
<v Speaker 2>that one of the directors for Billy Joel's video is
<v Speaker 2>John Small. That's the guy who doesn't hold a grudge.
<v Speaker 3>I forget to forget. Wow. Now, during this time, Billy
<v Speaker 3>was actually suicidal. He had lost Elizabeth, he had lost
<v Speaker 3>his best friend, he had lost his band, he didn't
<v Speaker 3>have a gig.
<v Speaker 2>He was living in a laundromat. I can see how
<v Speaker 2>that might be a downer.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.
<v Speaker 3>So what he did was he was given some anxiety pills,
<v Speaker 3>and so he decided, well, I got these pills. I
<v Speaker 3>guess I'll just take all of them. Yeah, And he
<v Speaker 3>woke up in the Burgency room.
<v Speaker 2>They had pumped his stomach.
<v Speaker 3>He had survived his half hearted suicide attempt.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Erwin, he was living with Irwin Mazer at the time.
<v Speaker 2>Erwin said, he woke up one morning, he walks into
<v Speaker 2>the kitchen and on the kitchen table he sees that
<v Speaker 2>Billy has written a song. They're like, oh, hey, there's
<v Speaker 2>a song Billy wrote. It's called Tomorrow's Today. That's interesting.
<v Speaker 2>He reads it and then you know, a few hours later,
<v Speaker 2>he gets the call from the hospital and he's like, oh, this.
<v Speaker 3>Is a suicide note. Oh okay, my bad.
<v Speaker 2>One thing that I didn't mention about Irwin Massour is
<v Speaker 2>that for a time he was a dental school attendant,
<v Speaker 2>but he dropped out of dental school. But when he
<v Speaker 2>goes to visit Billy at the hospital, Billy's like, they're crazy.
<v Speaker 2>You got to get me out of here. And so
<v Speaker 2>several failed attempts at legally getting him out of the hospital.
<v Speaker 2>Later he decided, I'm gonna throw on my old dental
<v Speaker 2>school attendant lab coat and he walks in and sneaks
<v Speaker 2>Billy Joel out of the mental hospital. Wow, that's creative.
<v Speaker 3>You know what he did to get into the mental hospital.
<v Speaker 2>He committed suicide. He tried to commit suicide. He well,
<v Speaker 2>his second attempt.
<v Speaker 3>Was he drank a bottle of old English.
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, furniture cleaner.
<v Speaker 5>What did you did you hear what he said about
<v Speaker 5>the second attempt when he drank the bottle of furniture polish,
<v Speaker 5>He was like, I actually pulled up the quote because
<v Speaker 5>I remember reading this one time and I wanted to
<v Speaker 5>get it right. Well, the furniture polish will probably taste
<v Speaker 5>better than the bleach. So I'll drink the furniture polish.
<v Speaker 5>And then he said all I ended up doing was
<v Speaker 5>farting furniture polish for a couple of days.
<v Speaker 2>And yeah, that's hilarious. Okay, so two suicide attempts.
<v Speaker 5>Oddly enough, that didn't polish him off. Ohuning I went
<v Speaker 5>there real quick. I was I was going to back
<v Speaker 5>up for a second to the Attila album. I was
<v Speaker 5>in a used bookstore years and years and years ago,
<v Speaker 5>and I ended up coming across a cassette tape and
<v Speaker 5>I pulled this tape out because it said Attila with
<v Speaker 5>Billy Joel, and I was like, wait, what, hold on,
<v Speaker 5>hold the phone. If you're a comic book fan, you
<v Speaker 5>might enjoy part of the Attila album because the very
<v Speaker 5>first song is titled wonder Woman. Canonically, I don't think
<v Speaker 5>it has anything to do with wonder Woman, but that
<v Speaker 5>is the name of the song.
<v Speaker 4>So if you want to just.
<v Speaker 5>Check it out to hear what Billy Joel's seventies progressive
<v Speaker 5>rock heavy metal sounds like, go for it. It's a
<v Speaker 5>weird little album.
<v Speaker 3>But I wonder if wonder Woman is an uptown girl
<v Speaker 3>or he's trying to serve me these softballs and I'm
<v Speaker 3>like swinging a mess.
<v Speaker 4>That's a secret that's a secret code for Elizabeth Small.
<v Speaker 2>So less than a month, less than a month after
<v Speaker 2>he has tried to kill himself the second time because
<v Speaker 2>of his failed music career, Irwin is at his brother's office,
<v Speaker 2>and Irwin's brother happens to be the art director for
<v Speaker 2>Paramount Records, and he's playing in one of Billy's songs
<v Speaker 2>and some long haired dude sticks his head through the
<v Speaker 2>door and says, who is that what you got there?
<v Speaker 2>And that dude's name was Michael Lang And if you
<v Speaker 2>don't recognize that name, he's the guy who did Woodstock. Wow,
<v Speaker 2>so not insignificant. Yeah, And he's like, oh you like it?
<v Speaker 2>And he goes no, not really, not my style, but
<v Speaker 2>I know a guy who I think would love it.
<v Speaker 2>And that is how Billy Joel meets the famous, if
<v Speaker 2>not infamous ARTI Rip. So Michael Lang sends the music
<v Speaker 2>to ARTI Rip. ARTI Rip calls up Irwin Maisur and says,
<v Speaker 2>I love Billy Joel. Let's make a deal, and Billy
<v Speaker 2>signs the as shoot as all of our newbie artists do.
<v Speaker 2>Signs the record deal quick because he wants to be
<v Speaker 2>a signed artist right, probably without reading a word of
<v Speaker 2>the contract. So with the signing of the deal, he
<v Speaker 2>gets back together with Elizabeth. They were on again, off again,
<v Speaker 2>and now they're on again and they're ready to produce
<v Speaker 2>mister Billy Joel's first an incredibly famous album, Cold Spring Harbor.
<v Speaker 6>She's gone away about her.
<v Speaker 5>I don't know.
<v Speaker 4>What it is, but I know that I can.
<v Speaker 2>Live with other.
<v Speaker 3>Cold Spring Harbor nineteen seventy one crickets.
<v Speaker 5>If he'd liked me to talk about Cold Spring Harbor,
<v Speaker 5>I could talk about Cold Spring Harbor and maybe one
<v Speaker 5>of the problems that came out with the Cold Spring
<v Speaker 5>Hart when they recorded it and they were I'm sorry
<v Speaker 5>that came out way too fast.
<v Speaker 2>I know, it's like you're a chipmunk or something that
<v Speaker 2>was weird.
<v Speaker 5>They went through and they recorded the whole thing, and
<v Speaker 5>I think it is because of a mastering error. His
<v Speaker 5>voice sounded way too high, you know, and Billy Joel
<v Speaker 5>he can sound he can hit the high notes, and
<v Speaker 5>there are times when when his voice can come out
<v Speaker 5>fairly high. But it ruined the whole album, like it
<v Speaker 5>ruined the sound of it. And he again, it was
<v Speaker 5>kind of feeling like, oh great, my first album and
<v Speaker 5>it's already a flop. It's got some great songs on it,
<v Speaker 5>but yeah, the mastering of it got all messed up.
<v Speaker 2>And truly the responsible party for that was Alardy Ripe,
<v Speaker 2>and he basically just said, the record's already been pressed.
<v Speaker 2>There's nothing we can do about it. It is what
<v Speaker 2>it is, literally, and so here he is. He's got
<v Speaker 2>this terrible album. What's he going to do now?
<v Speaker 3>He went to a listening party. He was at a
<v Speaker 3>listing party and he was listening. He's like, holy crap,
<v Speaker 3>I sound like a chipmunk, and then somebody else started laughing.
<v Speaker 3>So he took the record off, he threw it out
<v Speaker 3>the window and it just busted everywhere. Yeah, he was humiliated.
<v Speaker 2>He was humiliated. So he's not going to make his
<v Speaker 2>name through this first record. So his next alternative and
<v Speaker 2>pretty much only alternative at this point, is to make
<v Speaker 2>his name on the road. And since Arty was the
<v Speaker 2>one who had screwed up his first album, Irwin Maser
<v Speaker 2>was able to convince him, hey, you need to finance
<v Speaker 2>a tour, and so ARTI Rip puts up two hundred
<v Speaker 2>and fifty three hundred and fifty thousand dollars, which was
<v Speaker 2>a fair chunk of change in that time, and Billy
<v Speaker 2>starts touring the country, starts touring in Europe, is making
<v Speaker 2>a name as a live show and doing pretty good.
<v Speaker 2>And then he has a very very important moment where
<v Speaker 2>he appears on the WMMR radio station in Philadelphia and
<v Speaker 2>he plays a song that he has written while on
<v Speaker 2>the road, and that song is called Captain.
<v Speaker 1>Jack Saturday Night, yostill hanging around, tired of living in
<v Speaker 1>all on.
<v Speaker 5>Hostile You like one of the funny things. I mean,
<v Speaker 5>fast forward several years. Billy Joel I think, has said
<v Speaker 5>that's one of his least favorite songs over the years,
<v Speaker 5>he got so tired of playing it because one thing,
<v Speaker 5>and we'll talk about that as we're talking about all
<v Speaker 5>these different songs, is he's much more of a music person.
<v Speaker 4>You know. The lyrics to him always come second.
<v Speaker 5>He's much more about the music, and I think it's
<v Speaker 5>always more interesting interesting to him when he can do
<v Speaker 5>something that is almost classical and more complex. And he
<v Speaker 5>has said in subsequent interviews he's like, oh yeah, Captain Jack.
<v Speaker 5>He even said this was his quote. At this point.
<v Speaker 5>I've demoted him to Private Jack because it's just such
<v Speaker 5>a boring song. There was an interview where he starts
<v Speaker 5>to play it and he's just like, you can just
<v Speaker 5>tell he's bored even just playing it during that interview
<v Speaker 5>and he's like, oh, thank god a chord change, and
<v Speaker 5>then he moves into the next He is not a
<v Speaker 5>fan of that song now, I think because it is
<v Speaker 5>so simple, and I think some of those I think
<v Speaker 5>that's some of the some of the like build up
<v Speaker 5>over the years as to why he got disillusioned with
<v Speaker 5>his own career and his own success. Was he felt like, oh, man, like,
<v Speaker 5>the songs that get me real popular are the ones
<v Speaker 5>that like, I don't even really care for. Like, I know,
<v Speaker 5>I got to put the lyrics in there because that's
<v Speaker 5>what sells albums. But eh, all right, I.
<v Speaker 3>Found this story funny. He was out on the road
<v Speaker 3>to support that first album and they noticed there's a
<v Speaker 3>small group of women that showed up to all the shows.
<v Speaker 3>Turns out they were hookers, Oh, hired by our man,
<v Speaker 3>Ardie Rip to schmooz the DJs and to you know,
<v Speaker 3>support the band, to support the band, keep them up,
<v Speaker 3>you know, and whichever way they can.
<v Speaker 2>If that's moving up, then I'm moving out. So he
<v Speaker 2>plays Captain Jack on the radio station. It becomes their
<v Speaker 2>number one requested song, and as it turns out, a
<v Speaker 2>very important individual is listening, and here's this song, and
<v Speaker 2>that gentleman's name is Clive Davis. And if you don't
<v Speaker 2>know that name, you need to check out No Surprise
<v Speaker 2>by Aerosmith, where they said and then old Clyde Davis said,
<v Speaker 2>I'm surely gonna make you a star, because that's what
<v Speaker 2>Clive Davis did. Clive Davis was the head of Columbia Records,
<v Speaker 2>and he made a whole lot of stars Aerosmith, Bob Dylan,
<v Speaker 2>Bruce Springsteen, just to name a few. And so he
<v Speaker 2>calls up and says, hey, I want Billy on my label.
<v Speaker 2>Well the problem is, of course he's on Arty's label, still, right,
<v Speaker 2>And so Artie says, okay, tell you what, how about
<v Speaker 2>I'll let you have him. I just get twenty five
<v Speaker 2>percent of all of his album sales and all of
<v Speaker 2>his compositions for the next ten albums ten albums, sounds fair,
<v Speaker 2>ten albums, ten albums. By the way, ladies, Jim, and
<v Speaker 2>we're here to talk about album number nine. So you
<v Speaker 2>just know that Artie RiPP got twenty five percent of
<v Speaker 2>this baby too, gosh dang, So mister Joel was none
<v Speaker 2>too happy about that. He ends up firing Irwin Mazer
<v Speaker 2>over the deal because he thinks he's the one who's
<v Speaker 2>set him up for this. They remain friends, but he
<v Speaker 2>just doesn't think he's a good manager, and ultimately he decides, Hey,
<v Speaker 2>you know what, I'm not only going to marry Elizabeth,
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to make her my manager.
<v Speaker 6>Yep.
<v Speaker 5>Have you guys heard that they are talking about making
<v Speaker 5>a biopic of Billy Joel?
<v Speaker 4>No?
<v Speaker 3>Oh nice, that would be awesome.
<v Speaker 5>So they well maybe so they announced in I want
<v Speaker 5>to say it was back in March of twenty twenty
<v Speaker 5>two that they were going to be making the biopic
<v Speaker 5>of his life, the only and it's going to be
<v Speaker 5>directed by or at least the last thing I heard
<v Speaker 5>was it's gonna be directed by Adam RiPP, who is
<v Speaker 5>the son of Artie Rip. And the big hurdle that
<v Speaker 5>they've got is Billy Joel is not interested in having
<v Speaker 5>them make a movie of his early life, so he
<v Speaker 5>is not allowing them to use any of his music
<v Speaker 5>or his likeness. So they're how they're possibly going to
<v Speaker 5>make a biopick. What I've heard is they the biopick
<v Speaker 5>would would focus on the time of his life and
<v Speaker 5>career leading up to like I guess the end of
<v Speaker 5>the movie would be him releasing Captain Jack, him performing
<v Speaker 5>Captain Jack, and that being the first step to his stardom.
<v Speaker 5>It's it would deal with the time that he spent
<v Speaker 5>with the Hassles and and Attila and all that, and
<v Speaker 5>and Irwin Maser and but yeah, apparently they can't use
<v Speaker 5>his likeness or his music, so I'm not quite sure
<v Speaker 5>how you uh. I mean, weird Awl's weird would have
<v Speaker 5>been even more weird if you couldn't have him look
<v Speaker 5>like weird Al or play weird al music.
<v Speaker 2>So this is about a guy named Schmilly Schold a
<v Speaker 2>band named ginghis Khan in the Hustler.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so I think you're going to pull that off.
<v Speaker 2>But well, so he now has to pay back some
<v Speaker 2>of the money and is trying to dodge the creditors
<v Speaker 2>that are coming back after him. So what he ends
<v Speaker 2>up doing is playing lowly piano bar gigs in La
<v Speaker 2>under the name Billy Martin. During that time, he meets
<v Speaker 2>a guy named Davy who's still in the Navy, and
<v Speaker 2>a guy named Paul who's a real estate novelist.
<v Speaker 5>And probably that one guy probably will be for life.
<v Speaker 3>Yes, nineteen seventy three, he writes and records Piano Man.
<v Speaker 1>It's nine o'clock gone a Saturday.
<v Speaker 3>I regular crowd shuffles in. Man.
<v Speaker 2>That's a good way to come back in after a terrible,
<v Speaker 2>terribly bad, failed attempt at a first album. What a
<v Speaker 2>great way to reintroduce yourself.
<v Speaker 5>To the world.
<v Speaker 4>Have you guys ever heard any of the demo versions
<v Speaker 4>of his songs?
<v Speaker 2>I don't think so.
<v Speaker 5>They had this entire you can find them on YouTube,
<v Speaker 5>but they had this entire I think it was released
<v Speaker 5>as an album. It was called My Lives and it's
<v Speaker 5>a it's an album of like remixes and demo versions.
<v Speaker 5>And I was just listening to this the other day
<v Speaker 5>because some of these I had not heard before. And
<v Speaker 5>the Piano Man demo is really it's like it's like
<v Speaker 5>the whole alternate universe kind of thing. It's the Mandela effect,
<v Speaker 5>Like it's it sounds like Piano Man, but the lyrics
<v Speaker 5>from the get go are different and so and it's
<v Speaker 5>like you're listening to Billy Joel sing a song that
<v Speaker 5>you're like, no, no, hold on, that's not right. I'm going
<v Speaker 5>to actually bring that back when we talk about some
<v Speaker 5>of the songs on the album that we're here to
<v Speaker 5>talk about, because there's a demo that I actually liked
<v Speaker 5>better than the song that was released. But yeah, that
<v Speaker 5>that album is kind of fun. But to hear that
<v Speaker 5>demo of Piano Man, it's very and it sounds very
<v Speaker 5>different too. It's it's almost very echo we like it's
<v Speaker 5>it's got an echo effect. It's been added to it.
<v Speaker 5>I'm like, that just sounds it's weird.
<v Speaker 6>Said Son calling you play me a memory. I'm not
<v Speaker 6>really sure how it goes.
<v Speaker 4>You know.
<v Speaker 3>In our Patreon episode this month, we're dropping a Patreon
<v Speaker 3>episode on take on.
<v Speaker 2>Me by Aha.
<v Speaker 3>That song went through multiple, like three or four different
<v Speaker 3>variations before it hit.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.
<v Speaker 3>First one, you have that keyboard riff, but the words
<v Speaker 3>are totally different. Yeah, go to our Patreon page, by
<v Speaker 3>the way, check those episodes out.
<v Speaker 4>It's awesome.
<v Speaker 3>So after The Piano Man is released in nineteen seventy three,
<v Speaker 3>it reaches number twenty five in the Hot one hundred.
<v Speaker 3>By the way, we'll roll through these pretty quick. But
<v Speaker 3>nineteen seventy four, he releases an album called Street Live
<v Speaker 3>Serenade with the song you might know called the Entertainer.
<v Speaker 6>I am the Entertainer and I know just square Eyes
<v Speaker 6>stand an a serenader and another long haired band.
<v Speaker 1>Today I Am You're Champion a male one young you know.
<v Speaker 5>Again his his struggle with the recording industry, and it's
<v Speaker 5>it's got the line in the song, I'm gonna mess
<v Speaker 5>it up here in a second, but it's like, if
<v Speaker 5>you're gonna have a hit, you gotta make it fit.
<v Speaker 5>So they cut it down to three zero five, and
<v Speaker 5>kind of like his commentary on I gotta I mean
<v Speaker 5>the stuff if it's gonna get on the radio and
<v Speaker 5>I'm gonna be a hit, I gotta do this stuff.
<v Speaker 4>But that's not it's not what I want to do.
<v Speaker 5>So you can kind of see the little hints here
<v Speaker 5>and there of it's just like some of the other
<v Speaker 5>creatives that you know, we know and love and talk about,
<v Speaker 5>like you know, George Lucas getting you know, fed up
<v Speaker 5>with the whole studio system and wanting to be free
<v Speaker 5>to create his artwork. And but yeah, I love the
<v Speaker 5>I love the song. The entertainer is just such a
<v Speaker 5>such a fun little microcosm.
<v Speaker 4>I think of Billy Joel's, especially his early career.
<v Speaker 3>Okay, in nineteen seventy six, he releases Turnstiles, and the
<v Speaker 3>song that I know most from that is called New
<v Speaker 3>York State of Mind.
<v Speaker 5>Turnstiles is a great too, like that one You've got
<v Speaker 5>Say Goodbye to Hollywood Summer Highland Falls, that's a great
<v Speaker 5>I love the piano in that one. That's He's referred
<v Speaker 5>to that one as his bipolar song. New York State
<v Speaker 5>of Mind is amazing. James is a fun song. I
<v Speaker 5>mean that one's kind of that's a little underrated James.
<v Speaker 5>And then the song that follows it is The Angry
<v Speaker 5>young Man, And I feel like those two could kind
<v Speaker 5>of go together, Like James, based on the lyrics of
<v Speaker 5>the song, he could develop into an angry young man.
<v Speaker 5>But then the one that I've always loved this song
<v Speaker 5>is it ends with Miami twenty seventeen. It's one of
<v Speaker 5>those kind of like I always love a good alternate
<v Speaker 5>history story, alternate universe kind of a story, and just
<v Speaker 5>and especially when it got to be twenty seventeen and
<v Speaker 5>they kind of made a big deal about this song
<v Speaker 5>again and they started playing it. I'm like, I've always
<v Speaker 5>thought that song is so cool, and it's actually one
<v Speaker 5>of his few songs where he kind of he comes
<v Speaker 5>right out and comments on something political because it had
<v Speaker 5>to do with the city of New York going bankrupt
<v Speaker 5>in the early seventies, and I think it was President Ford.
<v Speaker 5>It was the famous headline in the newspaper. Ford says,
<v Speaker 5>drop dead to New York City, and Billy Joel is like, well, God,
<v Speaker 5>what would it be like if New York City goes
<v Speaker 5>bankrupt and we have to like sell things off and
<v Speaker 5>shut things down. And so that whole song grew out
<v Speaker 5>of that whole battle between New York and President Ford.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.
<v Speaker 3>Cool. Well, nineteen seventy seven is where I kind of
<v Speaker 3>entered the picture here. I remember this album as a
<v Speaker 3>young kid. The Stranger is released in nineteen seventy seven.
<v Speaker 1>Don't Go Change to Try Please Me You never let
<v Speaker 1>me down before.
<v Speaker 3>Don't That has songs like just the way you are
<v Speaker 3>only the good die young moving out and She's always
<v Speaker 3>a woman to me.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's an important thing that happens the album before this.
<v Speaker 2>Turnstile is where Billy he was initially given a Columbia
<v Speaker 2>producer and given the band the backing band for Elton John,
<v Speaker 2>which seemed like a good fit, but it wasn't working
<v Speaker 2>for him and he was like, no, I don't want
<v Speaker 2>to do that, and he ends up going back to
<v Speaker 2>Long Island and getting buddies that are musicians, like guys
<v Speaker 2>come play on the album. They're the ones that of
<v Speaker 2>course become his band forever after that. And then whenever
<v Speaker 2>that's done, the stranger comes along and he's like, Okay,
<v Speaker 2>I'm kind of done with producing and performing. We needed
<v Speaker 2>a producer and that's where we introduced mister Phil Ramone,
<v Speaker 2>who is also the producer of An Innocent Man.
<v Speaker 5>This is one of those albums, and I could say
<v Speaker 5>this just about any one of his albums, but this
<v Speaker 5>one in particular, I think it's it's gotten better reception
<v Speaker 5>as time has gone on. I think people have gone
<v Speaker 5>back and it got positive reviews when it came out,
<v Speaker 5>but I think since then a lot of people look
<v Speaker 5>back on this one and they're like, this is probably
<v Speaker 5>his most so lyrical album. I think a lot of
<v Speaker 5>people would would argue it may be his best and
<v Speaker 5>there's just so many songs. I mean, if you look
<v Speaker 5>at the songs on that album, moving Out the Stranger,
<v Speaker 5>just the way you are scenes from an Italian restaurant, Vienna,
<v Speaker 5>only the good Die Young, She's always a woman. I
<v Speaker 5>mean you get to the last two songs in the
<v Speaker 5>album before I go, oh yeah, I know those songs too,
<v Speaker 5>Like all the other songs are absolutely like throw those
<v Speaker 5>all on the Greatest Hits albums, and I think they
<v Speaker 5>are on all the greatest hits albums.
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, yeah, it's like a greatest Hits album in itself.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Okay.
<v Speaker 3>In nineteen seventy eight, he releases fifty second Street. For me,
<v Speaker 3>the biggest song on the album is My Life.
<v Speaker 2>Because of Buds Buddy, Because because of Budding budsm Buddy.
<v Speaker 2>It's a great song, man, it is a great song idea.
<v Speaker 2>It's kind of iconic for me. I think that was
<v Speaker 2>the song that really I was like, this guy sings
<v Speaker 2>this song.
<v Speaker 7>And I made that connection I grew up. We haven't
<v Speaker 7>really talked about this. I really had a lot of
<v Speaker 7>Billy Joel growing up. My dad was a big fan.
<v Speaker 7>My dad loved the Beatles. Billy Joel loved the Beatles.
<v Speaker 7>They were both born in forty nine. There's definitely an
<v Speaker 7>influence there. And so there was tons of Billy Joel
<v Speaker 7>in my childhood. John, same thing for you, right absolutely.
<v Speaker 5>In fact, now that we've gotten to this album, I
<v Speaker 5>would say, growing up in my childhood, same thing. My
<v Speaker 5>dad loved the Beatles, loved Billy Joel. So we were
<v Speaker 5>constantly listening to Billy Joel in the car at home.
<v Speaker 5>And if I had to pick the Billy Joel albums
<v Speaker 5>that were on regular rotation for me growing up, we
<v Speaker 5>actually had I think my uncle had made a cassette copy.
<v Speaker 5>He had gotten the video of Live at Long Island
<v Speaker 5>the concert, and then he had made a copy of
<v Speaker 5>that concert on cassette. So for a a lot of
<v Speaker 5>my childhood, that was the cassette that was just constantly
<v Speaker 5>being played. I still have it somewhere and it still works.
<v Speaker 5>I'm just afraid to play it because I don't want
<v Speaker 5>it to break. But that was on all the time, constantly.
<v Speaker 5>But the two albums in particular, and if I had
<v Speaker 5>to vote and say, what are my two favorite Billy
<v Speaker 5>Joel albums, it's fifty second Street and It's Innocent Man.
<v Speaker 5>So and I know I know some folks, you know,
<v Speaker 5>they look at this album and there's like, yeah, I
<v Speaker 5>mean you got big shot, you got my life. And
<v Speaker 5>then beyond that, there's some other ones on there. I
<v Speaker 5>look at this album and I go, oh, You've got Honesty.
<v Speaker 5>I love the song Honesty. I love the song Rosa
<v Speaker 5>Linda's Eyes is probably one of my favorite songs of
<v Speaker 5>his half a Mile Away fifty second Street. And it's
<v Speaker 5>funny because I always feel like this album is very jazzy,
<v Speaker 5>and I'm not always a huge fan of jazz. Sorry
<v Speaker 5>to Patrick Cannagallo, one of my co hosts on the
<v Speaker 5>thirty something Movie podcast, who loves jazz, I'm not as
<v Speaker 5>much of a jazz guy, but this one is so
<v Speaker 5>very much so, and in particular the song I love
<v Speaker 5>the song Rosalinda's Eyes. And do you guys know the
<v Speaker 5>story behind that one? So it's actually a song his
<v Speaker 5>mom's name was Rosalind And basically the song is about
<v Speaker 5>a I think it's about a Cuban singer who is
<v Speaker 5>singing in a Puerto Rican band and he's kind of
<v Speaker 5>struggling and and it's you know, the song is about
<v Speaker 5>him kind of falling for this woman in this club
<v Speaker 5>and her name is Rosa Linda and Billy Joel has
<v Speaker 5>said that he treats this at this song as the
<v Speaker 5>love letter he feels like his father always should have
<v Speaker 5>written to his mother, and it was also his kind
<v Speaker 5>of his thank you to his mother, like thank you
<v Speaker 5>for getting me all the lessons you gave me, thank
<v Speaker 5>you for supporting me, thank you for being there even
<v Speaker 5>when you know my father left. Thank you for always
<v Speaker 5>being the one that really pushed me to get to
<v Speaker 5>where I am today. And I love that that this
<v Speaker 5>was the love letter that his father should have written
<v Speaker 5>for his mother.
<v Speaker 4>So he's going to do it for her.
<v Speaker 3>That's awesome.
<v Speaker 5>Feat Love love that album fifty second Street. I love
<v Speaker 5>that album.
<v Speaker 3>Okay, in nineteen eighty we have glass houses and this
<v Speaker 3>was a huge album for me as well. Right you've
<v Speaker 3>got It's still rock and roll to me. You may
<v Speaker 3>be right.
<v Speaker 2>Where are you guys? In this one best album cover
<v Speaker 2>of all Billy Joel album covers. I can remember this one.
<v Speaker 2>I told you when we did our Lionel Richie episode
<v Speaker 2>that seeing him sitting on that chair in our stack
<v Speaker 2>of albums was something I remember clearly. This album is
<v Speaker 2>another cover that I remember clearly, him staring at a
<v Speaker 2>giant window about to chunk a rock into it. I
<v Speaker 2>love it.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and it fits so much with just the opening
<v Speaker 5>of the very first song. You've got the shattering glass
<v Speaker 5>and you May be Right and it just you're you're
<v Speaker 5>off and running at that point.
<v Speaker 3>Really cool. Yeah, it's a it's a neat thing that
<v Speaker 3>they do there.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, And this is one of those you know, I
<v Speaker 5>love this album. I mean I love all of his albums,
<v Speaker 5>but this is one of those where obviously kind of
<v Speaker 5>side one of the album. If you if you break
<v Speaker 5>it in half and you do the side one, side
<v Speaker 5>two of the original release Side one definitely much much
<v Speaker 5>stronger than side two, but still some other really great songs.
<v Speaker 5>Having taken French in middle school and high school, I
<v Speaker 5>do love set atois You were the One, but I
<v Speaker 5>mean the whole first side You May be Right sometimes
<v Speaker 5>a fantasy. Don't ask me why still rock and roll
<v Speaker 5>to me? All for Lena. I mean, those are those
<v Speaker 5>are awesome.
<v Speaker 3>Calid, don't don't.
<v Speaker 4>It's old John still older than me.
<v Speaker 2>You may be Right. As one of those year worms
<v Speaker 2>that routinely comes up in my mind player, I think
<v Speaker 2>it might be from the album and the Chipmunks Chipmunk
<v Speaker 2>Punk the album though, just kidding, well not really, That's
<v Speaker 2>probably where I started with it. But it's definitely Billy
<v Speaker 2>Joel that is playing in my head. Chipmunk Punk again
<v Speaker 2>making an appearance.
<v Speaker 6>All right.
<v Speaker 3>Nineteen eighty one, we have the album Songs in the Attic.
<v Speaker 3>This is a collection of live tracks. Are you fan
<v Speaker 3>of this one? John?
<v Speaker 5>You know what, I haven't listened to this one as much.
<v Speaker 5>Typically when I go, if I want to go for
<v Speaker 5>live versions of the song, I will tend to gravitate
<v Speaker 5>towards that live at Long Island album. So I've listened
<v Speaker 5>to this one a bit, but I am so used
<v Speaker 5>to it because it was on such regular rotation growing up.
<v Speaker 5>I tend to gravitate over to that one. But still
<v Speaker 5>a really fun collection from a bunch of his early albums.
<v Speaker 2>The song off of this album that I love is
<v Speaker 2>that you don't hear elsewhere is She's Got Away. It
<v Speaker 2>was one that was actually on Cold Spring Harbor, but
<v Speaker 2>you know what happened with that album, and so the
<v Speaker 2>way that I know it is the live version.
<v Speaker 3>Cool.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's good one.
<v Speaker 5>My wife and I are probably one of our favorite
<v Speaker 5>songs of his is You're My Home off of Piano Man,
<v Speaker 5>and I actually just introduced her the other day to
<v Speaker 5>a cover of it because she also, you know, Helen
<v Speaker 5>Ready that did the song in the in the Disney
<v Speaker 5>movie Pete's Dragon. I was thinking, I think it was
<v Speaker 5>Candles on the Water was the song. She actually does
<v Speaker 5>a cover version of You're My Home, and so I
<v Speaker 5>played that for my wife the other day. I said,
<v Speaker 5>you want to mix two things you really enjoy, Billy
<v Speaker 5>Joel and Helen Ready.
<v Speaker 4>Well, we'll get Ready there you go.
<v Speaker 3>I believe that's the first time that Pete's Dragon has
<v Speaker 3>ever been brought up on our show.
<v Speaker 2>That's a travesty right there.
<v Speaker 4>Hopefully it won't be the last.
<v Speaker 2>All right.
<v Speaker 3>In nineteen eighty two, he releases the album The Nylon,
<v Speaker 3>and this includes songs like Pressure and Alentown, good Night, Sigon.
<v Speaker 5>For me the weirdest one and as a kid, I
<v Speaker 5>don't know, maybe just because he said it was weird
<v Speaker 5>on the live album, I was like, I love the
<v Speaker 5>song Scandinavians guys like it is such a weird song.
<v Speaker 5>It's not my favorite one off the album, but you
<v Speaker 5>know that one. I love that one too, But yeah, Alanown, Pressure,
<v Speaker 5>good Night's Saigon Pressure in particular, it was always funny
<v Speaker 5>to me, like, as a kid, I love these songs
<v Speaker 5>and I would We used to have one of those
<v Speaker 5>tape decks that you know, had a microphone attached to it,
<v Speaker 5>and so I think my parents probably switched off the
<v Speaker 5>microphone just so they didn't have to listen to the
<v Speaker 5>kids sing all the time. But we would take that
<v Speaker 5>thing and try to do our own little lip sync
<v Speaker 5>karaoke kind of a deal. And so I'm sure it
<v Speaker 5>was hilarious to watch, like this seven year old kid
<v Speaker 5>singing the song Pressure, because what kind of pressure have
<v Speaker 5>I had in my life up to this point?
<v Speaker 2>One of the lyrics and that song you're not allowed
<v Speaker 2>to sing it's seven year old?
<v Speaker 5>Well, you know, I think it was because in the
<v Speaker 5>at least in the live version, I'm trying to remember
<v Speaker 5>about the other one, he does mention Sesame Street in
<v Speaker 5>the song, So I think as a seven year old,
<v Speaker 5>I was like, no, it's a Billy Joel song that
<v Speaker 5>mentioned Sesame Street.
<v Speaker 4>I'm all like to do, what does it mean?
<v Speaker 3>All right? Three other really eventful things happen in nineteen
<v Speaker 3>eighty two. On April fifteenth, nineteen eighty two, Billy Joel's
<v Speaker 3>involved in a terrible motorcycle accident.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, in the midst of recording, like they're not even
<v Speaker 2>finished with the album, and it messes up his hand.
<v Speaker 2>It busts up his hands, which is a pretty bad
<v Speaker 2>deal if you were the piano man.
<v Speaker 3>If you're the piano man, that's a big deal.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.
<v Speaker 3>And also in nineteen eighty two, he served divorce papers
<v Speaker 3>from his wife while he's in the hospital recovering from
<v Speaker 3>a busted up hand. When you're a piano player, so
<v Speaker 3>you lay hands on you when you're stuck in a
<v Speaker 3>hospital bit, Oh my gosh. And then also in nineteen
<v Speaker 3>eighty two, his good buddy Paul Simon invites him on
<v Speaker 3>a vacation to Saint Bart's Man, that faithful trip. We'll
<v Speaker 3>talk about just a little bit.
<v Speaker 2>Are we there yet? Are we there yet? Are we
<v Speaker 2>there yet?
<v Speaker 3>I think we are.
<v Speaker 2>There, guys. It is time for us to discuss an
<v Speaker 2>innocent man. Track by track. See, we gave a whole
<v Speaker 2>bridge of information. Oh you said abridged. I'm sorry, I
<v Speaker 2>messed all of that up. I did a whole bridge
<v Speaker 2>of history right there. What you wanted was an abridged history.
<v Speaker 3>You know you mean the bridge right.
<v Speaker 2>Oh, there you go.
<v Speaker 5>Bring it back, the bridge which helps us get over
<v Speaker 5>the river of dreams.
<v Speaker 3>There you go.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, you had to be a big shot, did ye
<v Speaker 2>had to open up your mouth?
<v Speaker 4>Yes?
<v Speaker 2>All right, guys, So we will come back next week
<v Speaker 2>and talk about an innocent man. Track by track, John
<v Speaker 2>will be back with us.
<v Speaker 5>I will wait the longest time. Whatever you need.
<v Speaker 3>We will see you guys next week or in a
<v Speaker 3>few days, whatever it is.
<v Speaker 6>So