Gerard 't Hooft: Why the Universe Is a Deterministic Machine
Gerard 't Hooft (Nobel laureate) argues quantum mechanics is wrong—the universe is a deterministic machine. He explores superdeterminism, cellular automata, and the implications for black hole information and hidden variables.
0:00 Why Quantum Mechanics is Fundamentally Wrong
5:00 The Frustrating Blind Spots of Modern Physicists
11:27 The "Hidden Variables" That Truly Explain Reality
17:00 The "True" Equations of the Universe Will Have No Superposition
23:00 Our Universe as a Cellular Automaton
30:02 Why Real Numbers Don't Exist in Physics
39:14 Can This Radical Theory Even Be Falsified?
46:29 How Superdeterminism Defeats Bell's Theorem
58:19 't Hooft's Radical View on Quantum Gravity
1:08:24 Solving the Black Hole Information Paradox with "Clones"
1:14:00 What YOU Would Experience Falling Into a Black Hole
1:20:17 How 't Hooft Almost Beat a Nobel Prize Discovery
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- Gerard’s site: https://webspace.science.uu.nl/~hooft101/
- Gerard’s papers: https://inspirehep.net/authors/1019113
- Cellular Automaton Interpretation Of Quantum Mechanics [Book]: https://www.amazon.com/Cellular-Automaton-Interpretation-Mechanics-Fundamental/dp/3319823140
- David Wallace [TOE]: https://youtu.be/4MjNuJK5RzM
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- Roger Penrose [TOE]: https://youtu.be/sGm505TFMbU
- Conway’s Game Of Life: https://playgameoflife.com/
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- David Kaiser [TOE]: https://youtu.be/_yebLXsIdwo
- String Theory Iceberg [TOE]: https://youtu.be/X4PdPnQuwjY
- Birth of Asymptotic Freedom [Paper]: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/0550321385902068
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0:00 Why Quantum Mechanics is Fundamentally Wrong
5:00 The Frustrating Blind Spots of Modern Physicists
11:27 The "Hidden Variables" That Truly Explain Reality
17:00 The "True" Equations of the Universe Will Have No Superposition
23:00 Our Universe as a Cellular Automaton
30:02 Why Real Numbers Don't Exist in Physics
39:14 Can This Radical Theory Even Be Falsified?
46:29 How Superdeterminism Defeats Bell's Theorem
58:19 't Hooft's Radical View on Quantum Gravity
1:08:24 Solving the Black Hole Information Paradox with "Clones"
1:14:00 What YOU Would Experience Falling Into a Black Hole
1:20:17 How 't Hooft Almost Beat a Nobel Prize Discovery
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- YouTube Member (Early Access Videos): https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdWIQh9DGG6uhJk8eyIFl1w/join
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- The Economist discount: I personally subscribe to The Economist. TOE listeners get 35% off the annual subscription. No other podcast has this! https://economist.com/TOE
- Substack: https://curtjaimungal.substack.com
- Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4gL14b92xAErofYQA7bU4e
- Gerard’s site: https://webspace.science.uu.nl/~hooft101/
- Gerard’s papers: https://inspirehep.net/authors/1019113
- Cellular Automaton Interpretation Of Quantum Mechanics [Book]: https://www.amazon.com/Cellular-Automaton-Interpretation-Mechanics-Fundamental/dp/3319823140
- David Wallace [TOE]: https://youtu.be/4MjNuJK5RzM
- Emily Adlam & Jacob Barandes [TOE]: https://youtu.be/rw1ewLJUgOg
- Roger Penrose [TOE]: https://youtu.be/sGm505TFMbU
- Conway’s Game Of Life: https://playgameoflife.com/
- Julian Barbour [TOE]: https://youtu.be/bprxrGaf0Os
- Emily Adlam [TOE]: https://youtu.be/6I2OhmVWLMs
- Sabine’s video on Gerard: https://youtu.be/2kxoq5UzAEQ
- Sabine Hossenfelder [TOE]: https://youtu.be/E3y-Z0pgupg
- Tim Palmer [TOE]: https://youtu.be/vlklA6jsS8A
- Carlo Rovelli [TOE]: https://youtu.be/hF4SAketEHY
- Stephen Wolfram [TOE]: https://youtu.be/0YRlQQw0d-4
- Bernardo Kastrup & Sabine Hossenfelder [TOE]: https://youtu.be/kJmBmopxc1k
- Tim Maudlin [TOE]: https://youtu.be/fU1bs5o3nss
- Jacob Barandes [TOE]: https://youtu.be/wrUvtqr4wOs
- Ted Jacobson [TOE]: https://youtu.be/3mhctWlXyV8
- Claudia De Rham [TOE]: https://youtu.be/Ve_Mpd6dGv8
- Neil Turok [TOE]: https://youtu.be/ZUp9x44N3uE
- Latham Boyle [TOE]: https://youtu.be/nyLeeEFKk04
- David Kaiser [TOE]: https://youtu.be/_yebLXsIdwo
- String Theory Iceberg [TOE]: https://youtu.be/X4PdPnQuwjY
- Birth of Asymptotic Freedom [Paper]: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/0550321385902068
- How To Become A Good Theoretical Physicist [Article]: https://www.goodtheorist.science/index.html
- Twitter: https://twitter.com/TOEwithCurt
- Discord Invite: https://discord.com/invite/kBcnfNVwqs
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2025-08-12
93 min
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