Ep. 412: 'The Coliseum Collection' Bruno Sammartino, Wrestling's Living Legend (Part 2)
2025-02-07
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<v Speaker 1>And we're back. Oscan Wrestling Podcast. The Colosseum Collection rolls <v Speaker 1>on here as we tackle the tribute the living legend <v Speaker 1>Bruno sim Martino Colosseum Home Video Release Boss. He is <v Speaker 1>a living legend, and he lives on in this in <v Speaker 1>this tape, and so does the legendary crackle of that VHS. <v Speaker 2>Yes, indeed, federal law provides. <v Speaker 1>Severe criminal civil penalties in case you forgot, no columns <v Speaker 1>yet in our Colosseum home video logo, and there is <v Speaker 1>no not yet that blue logo, that home video logo <v Speaker 1>that we all love to see. I also don't know <v Speaker 1>if you know the begin over five thousand years ago. <v Speaker 2>Actually I have it at the game. It actually began <v Speaker 2>over five million years ago when dinosaurs discovered methods of <v Speaker 2>entertainment that would put smile on faces. <v Speaker 1>Yeah, they were. They were carnying each other back. <v Speaker 2>Right right, Well, you had the Carnivores after resolutely you <v Speaker 2>did Carnivores, I suppose to be called. <v Speaker 1>They should just rename the whole Colisseum video collection carniv Wars. <v Speaker 2>The Carnivor Connect Collection. <v Speaker 1>Carnivore home video series. <v Speaker 2>There we go. <v Speaker 1>So there's gene Oakerland in a bow tie and in studio, <v Speaker 1>the WWF studios. Let us know, it's a great pleasure. <v Speaker 2>Here we go. I got this one because I thought <v Speaker 2>this was absolutely it's it's, it's there's so you know, <v Speaker 2>I actually took all of Bruno's like intros to his <v Speaker 2>matches because they were great. That's how everything with Bruno. <v Speaker 2>It's just spectacular to hear him talk about this stuff. <v Speaker 2>So that this is actually this clip. So I don't <v Speaker 2>know if you have anything else you want to say, <v Speaker 2>because this actually leads into the Nikolai Volkoff. Let's do <v Speaker 2>it all right, Here we. <v Speaker 3>Go, Hello, Gettaby Bond. This is being Gene Okerland and <v Speaker 3>it is my great pleasure to be just one of <v Speaker 3>the hosts for the next edition of Colisseum Videos, official <v Speaker 3>World Wrestling Federation home video series. Now you'll notice that <v Speaker 3>I said one of the hosts. <v Speaker 2>He's making a big deal out of that, as if <v Speaker 2>the last video wasn't the exact same fucking thing. <v Speaker 1>I know it was multiple hosts, right, It's kind of <v Speaker 1>the idea, right. <v Speaker 3>Because to bring you this particular cassette, I'm going to <v Speaker 3>be joined here in video control by a man who <v Speaker 3>will be the subject of this program. Not only in <v Speaker 3>professional wrestling, but in all of professional sport. There is <v Speaker 3>only one man, and one man only, who has ever <v Speaker 3>been a court of the extraordinary nickname of living Legend. <v Speaker 3>I am speaking, of course, of our guest host, Wrestling's <v Speaker 3>living legend, Bruno San Martino. Bruno, welcome aboard. <v Speaker 4>Thank you very much, Jane. Great to be here with you. <v Speaker 3>It is going to be a big hour. Bruno. We're <v Speaker 3>going to be talking about your career in some detail <v Speaker 3>a little bit later on, but I'd like to quickly <v Speaker 3>describe for your fans some of the matches we're going <v Speaker 3>to be reliving along with you. You right here. Opponents <v Speaker 3>like Baron von Rashki, George the Animal Steal, There's a <v Speaker 3>classic Nikolai Volkov, Olympic strong man, Ken petera rowdy Roddy <v Speaker 3>Piper I know, not one of your favorites, and Killer <v Speaker 3>Kowalski and Bruno, if we may, let's get right to it. <v Speaker 3>It is October twenty fifth, nineteen seventy five, and early <v Speaker 3>in the career of a man from Russia who outweighs <v Speaker 3>you by sixty five pounds and is hungry for the <v Speaker 3>world heavyweight title. You held at the time. Tell us <v Speaker 3>what it's like to stand of the squared circles Bruno <v Speaker 3>San Martino with Nikolai Volkov. <v Speaker 4>Well, that was quite an experience, Jean, because Volkov did <v Speaker 4>not come in that ring to Russell, he was a <v Speaker 4>brutal man, very powerful, but very brutal. He tried to <v Speaker 4>annihilate an opponent travicious tactics. So this was a root <v Speaker 4>awakening for me realizing that this Russian meant business and <v Speaker 4>you only have to meet him in his own game <v Speaker 4>if you're to survive. <v Speaker 1>Things he says about his he's got a whole spiel <v Speaker 1>for every opponent. <v Speaker 4>He does. <v Speaker 2>He does, and and there's something part of it is <v Speaker 2>just so it's so weak, Like sometimes the authenticity is <v Speaker 2>great about what he's saying about his opponents, and sometimes <v Speaker 2>it's just plain fucking weird. Yeah, you know, and it's <v Speaker 2>just it. And again it goes along that same lines <v Speaker 2>of the of of what was the phrase that he <v Speaker 2>used that what they called how they described him, the <v Speaker 2>way he wouldn't his wouldn't responses and ship you know, <v Speaker 2>like they really are like he's he's it's it's again. <v Speaker 2>He sounds like a fucking relative that that that doesn't <v Speaker 2>really know how to respond to certain things. <v Speaker 1>Son think he's making a lot of provisos for why <v Speaker 1>a lot of the matches on this tape aren't going <v Speaker 1>to be heavily technical. Like he's always talking about how <v Speaker 1>this other guy was so brutal that he had to <v Speaker 1>bring the fight out of me and vicious tactics I <v Speaker 1>had to deal with. <v Speaker 2>But it's kind of funny he says that. And I <v Speaker 2>actually may note this earlier because he talks about about uh, <v Speaker 2>I forget which one it was, maybe which match it <v Speaker 2>was where he talks about it being a technical match, <v Speaker 2>and I'm like, yeah, I don't know what he's talking about. <v Speaker 2>He's he's a punch kick guy. Yeah, that's what he does. Like, <v Speaker 2>that's what people react to. They don't react to and <v Speaker 2>him doing a hold. They they react to him kicking <v Speaker 2>him punching people like. That's that's what Brunos Sanmartino. <v Speaker 1>Is for sure, especially against you know heels like this. <v Speaker 1>He you know, when he wrestled Pedro in that hour match, <v Speaker 1>when he wrestled baby Faces, he could do technical matches. <v Speaker 1>He did one against do Zubisco that set up th <v Speaker 1>Obisco heel turn on a TV tape. It was actually <v Speaker 1>kind of a clinic in Chaine Wrestling. It was like, Wow, <v Speaker 1>he actually can't do this if if the circumstance calls <v Speaker 1>for it. It's just so rarely did the circumstance call <v Speaker 1>for it because he was so effective coming coming up <v Speaker 1>from the bottom against vicious Heel. But he kind of <v Speaker 1>like on just about every match he comments on, like <v Speaker 1>you observed as well on this tape, he's always like <v Speaker 1>sort of apologizing for the fact that he's not using <v Speaker 1>holes and just punching. <v Speaker 2>Right, and it's like, that's what you do, man, that's <v Speaker 2>what you do. <v Speaker 1>I wrote down October of seventy five as the timestamp <v Speaker 1>for this match because I think on the tape that's <v Speaker 1>what they say. It's actually October ninety seventy six. <v Speaker 2>Yes, that's what I had. That's what I ended up. <v Speaker 2>I got from the website there the log there, right, <v Speaker 2>it's October twenty fifth, nineteen seventy six. <v Speaker 1>Yeah, so it might be uh okay, so we're on <v Speaker 1>the same page there. <v Speaker 2>The log also has another screw up later on actually <v Speaker 2>where I it says a match that was at the <v Speaker 2>Garden was actually at Boston Garden was actually in Philly <v Speaker 2>the year prior, which is oh interesting. Yeah, I'll get <v Speaker 2>to that one. You get there. <v Speaker 1>They got October twenty fifth, seventy six to the terrific <v Speaker 1>Wrestling in the Garden The Battle for New York Workshoots <v Speaker 1>and Double Cross this book by Jay mcelcanyon and Scott. <v Speaker 2>Yeah, you've got the real that's Drew. You have the real, <v Speaker 2>fucking the real Guide. <v Speaker 1>The Digest Semarantino being Nikolai Volcloff in eighteen minutes, thirty <v Speaker 1>four seconds. This says Gorilla Monsoon was special referee. So <v Speaker 1>I don't think it's that show. <v Speaker 2>Yeah, maybe not, but. <v Speaker 1>It says October twenty fifth, nineteen seventy six. And in <v Speaker 1>nineteen seventy five he was not wrestling. He was not <v Speaker 1>wrestling Nikolai Volkoff yet. Yeah, he's he's up against the <v Speaker 1>likes of was it Waldov on Eric and stuff like that. <v Speaker 2>Yeah, and. <v Speaker 1>Yeah, So also on that card, Potsky beating Stan Hanson, <v Speaker 1>Andrew the Giant Chief, j Strongbell and Billy White Wolf <v Speaker 1>over Bruiser Brody and the Executioners. There was a broke. <v Speaker 1>There was Brody Bruno matches in the Garden in seventy <v Speaker 1>six think about that pairing. <v Speaker 2>Fucking hell, I needed that. <v Speaker 1>I need that absolutely, So, yeah, it's it's an interesting one, <v Speaker 1>it is. It's uh, the Nikolai Volkoff we will come <v Speaker 1>to know is not quite the nickeola I Volkoff that's here. <v Speaker 1>That's more bepa mungol Volkov. <v Speaker 2>This well what I uh, I was amazed. I mean, <v Speaker 2>I guess I knew, but I don't know, it didn't. <v Speaker 2>It didn't really kind of hit me until I was <v Speaker 2>watching this. How long of a career, Uh, Nikolai Volkov had? <v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah before he had a whole career before that, <v Speaker 2>like and and you know, unfortunately those of us who <v Speaker 2>who I mean, those of us who who fucking joined <v Speaker 2>in the nineties, Like he's just a joke, yeah, you know, <v Speaker 2>but here he's actually vicious. But it's hard for me <v Speaker 2>to look back at him and think of him as <v Speaker 2>a legitimate threat for anybody, yep, because he's such a goof. <v Speaker 1>That's quite a striped dress shirt that Bruno has on <v Speaker 1>in the studio. <v Speaker 4>By the way. <v Speaker 2>Indeed, something a sight to behold if you're something to <v Speaker 2>tell you that's that's that's that's the shirt. He wears <v Speaker 2>when he's uh in the backyard on the grill and <v Speaker 2>susiege totally. <v Speaker 1>That is absolutely his labor Day cookout shirt. So it's <v Speaker 1>Bruno versus Volkoff and we start with a knuckle lock. <v Speaker 1>Nikolai velcoff to his knees and brunos and Maertino throws <v Speaker 1>a knee and sends Volkov flying. We have gray ropes, <v Speaker 1>navy buckling and a navy canvas in case you're wondering <v Speaker 1>what era. <v Speaker 2>And let me tell you a lot of marks are <v Speaker 2>left in the body, yes after any of these matches. <v Speaker 1>And you know that clinging noise the ring used to <v Speaker 1>make in that era, has the rope sagged and shook, <v Speaker 1>the rattle, the rattle of the ring. There's a top <v Speaker 1>wristlock now by Bruno that takes Nikolae down to the canvas. <v Speaker 1>Roughcounts one and Bruno shifts to the arm bar. Vince <v Speaker 1>McMahon junr on the call. By the way, he had <v Speaker 1>been on announcing for about three years at this point <v Speaker 1>at ringside. Interesting this wasn't Bepo Mongol. Like I mentioned, <v Speaker 1>the Mongols was a big time dominating heel tag team <v Speaker 1>where Nikolai Velcoff first broke in and I always remember <v Speaker 1>Bruno wrestling Beppo Mongol, not Nikolai Volkoff by names. Yeah, <v Speaker 1>but maybe there was a point in time where you <v Speaker 1>switched to gimmicks and still working to their feet. And <v Speaker 1>Bermontino grabs Sementino grabs side headlock push off. They collide, <v Speaker 1>but neither man budgets and again, this time at Sammartino, <v Speaker 1>who falls forward. Olcoff yells at him, hits the ropes <v Speaker 1>and bowls him over. Tries again, and there's an arm <v Speaker 1>drag by Bruno Simartino and the crowd likes that. Yeah, <v Speaker 1>I thought he said there was no technical wrestling in <v Speaker 1>this one, brother. And then Sammartino, with the wrist control <v Speaker 1>on the mat, almost like an Americana, steps over into <v Speaker 1>the mount. Interestingly, Bruno taking mount, the ref counts one. <v Speaker 1>The ref funny, he slaps and says something one and two. <v Speaker 1>I don't know what this ref's deal is, but he <v Speaker 1>says one the two. Maybe he's just trying to get <v Speaker 1>trying to speak Bruno's language. <v Speaker 2>I don't know. <v Speaker 1>So then Bruno Sammartino lifting and dropping the shins on <v Speaker 1>the stomach from that mounted position as Vince says, if <v Speaker 1>you don't think that takes power, just imagine a neck bridge. <v Speaker 1>Just imagine a neck bridge when you weigh three hundred pounds. <v Speaker 1>That alone is a feat. But when you have Brunos <v Speaker 1>Samartino on top of you, that gives you some idea <v Speaker 1>of the power possessed by Nikolai Volkoff. Thanks Vince. <v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's a mouthful, fucking Actually maybe it was a <v Speaker 2>mount leone. By the way, when he use. <v Speaker 1>That's the line of kill weer nikkad joke. Yeah to <v Speaker 1>the knucklelock in. Sanmartino is now struggling. He gets arrested. <v Speaker 1>Down to the canvas for two and Vince is surprised <v Speaker 1>by the nearness of the fall. Photographers are hugging the <v Speaker 1>apron because they have yet to be banished from existence <v Speaker 1>by Vince Junior. That's always a welcome sight. A Sanmartino <v Speaker 1>lifts an arm and starts shaking, and they start going <v Speaker 1>nuts at the suggestion that Sanmartino might be about to <v Speaker 1>fire up. <v Speaker 2>Yeah, like you said, it's crazy. <v Speaker 1>The original hulking up right here in the northeast, yep, <v Speaker 1>and they're going nuts. <v Speaker 2>Really what it is? <v Speaker 1>Both stand and nicolaive o'clock kicks the gut to break <v Speaker 1>and stomps on Sanmartino a bit. Now he's choking him <v Speaker 1>on the canvas as some flash bulbs go off. Then <v Speaker 1>Volkov lifts his arms to the crowd to draw some <v Speaker 1>booze in, and Vince is saying he's taking the time <v Speaker 1>out of yep, good, No, I was go ahead. I <v Speaker 1>was just reacting, taking time out of the beating here <v Speaker 1>to show off his work. Taking time out to show <v Speaker 1>off his work here. <v Speaker 2>He also talks about this was great. He comments on <v Speaker 2>Volkoff's his fuel tank as it were, Well. <v Speaker 5>Golf drass tank down around the E mark unless you're <v Speaker 5>gonna get some pick fuel. <v Speaker 4>Here, that's not lock. <v Speaker 5>They go Guno's gonna be all over it. <v Speaker 2>Oh my god, where's he gonna get the fuel from? <v Speaker 2>I mean, what are you gonna ask for a snack? <v Speaker 1>Isn't there an oil in Bargo back? Then he's gonna <v Speaker 1>ask for a snack, But that has nothing to do <v Speaker 1>with the the fuel comment. Can you play that again <v Speaker 1>so we can hear the noise of the ring. This <v Speaker 1>is mid seventies WWF. <v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, golf drass tank down around the E mark <v Speaker 3>unless you're gonna get some puick fuel here. <v Speaker 2>That's not lock. <v Speaker 5>They go, Bruno's gonna be all over it. <v Speaker 2>I mean just metal, you know, like whatever whatever they're <v Speaker 2>landing on is hard, right, Okay, there's no give. <v Speaker 1>Right, it's not designed and engineered for pro wrestling. <v Speaker 2>It's just no, it's not. It's it's design and engineered <v Speaker 2>for pain. Wow. <v Speaker 1>So uh Brits Simotato kicking as uh Volkoff tries to <v Speaker 1>close in, rams his head into the top buckle, and <v Speaker 1>Nikolai Volkoff basically backflips out of the corner, but Sanmarteano <v Speaker 1>unloads with body shots and right and a right hook <v Speaker 1>drops Volkov cover No. Vlklof has his foot on the <v Speaker 1>rope very adeptly, as Vince notes, the foot is put <v Speaker 1>on the rope. There's like a new I don't know <v Speaker 1>what I meant by this. Was there a new camera <v Speaker 1>angle overlooking the ring that they cut to at one point? <v Speaker 1>I feel like there was something novel. <v Speaker 2>About Maybe I don't remember seeing anything that notable. <v Speaker 1>So they flash forward like you said that, this is <v Speaker 1>some abbreviated stuff here head luck by Sanmartino push off. <v Speaker 2>But it's not like you know what I appreciate about <v Speaker 2>this more than other videos in the past is that they, <v Speaker 2>at least for the most part, they start off at <v Speaker 2>the beginning of the match and they end the match. Yes, <v Speaker 2>it's not like they showed they jump in the middle <v Speaker 2>of the match and they leave before it's over, like <v Speaker 2>so many of these tapes are like Yeah, it's like <v Speaker 2>to me, if I were renting these tapes, I'd be <v Speaker 2>fucking his totally, Like, at least this one's got some <v Speaker 2>stuff to it that. <v Speaker 1>I really get. Fourteen seconds of a six man tag <v Speaker 1>from seventy eight, right, Stan Hayes stan Stasiak puts the <v Speaker 1>heart punch on for twelve seconds. It's like, right, what <v Speaker 1>the fuck was the point of that headlock push off <v Speaker 1>by Sammartino. They collide and brunos Semartino nearly spills out <v Speaker 1>of the ring with the ropes bouncing like you wouldn't believe. <v Speaker 1>San Martino is able to slug Volkoff from his knees <v Speaker 1>and cover for two, and then he rams Volkov into <v Speaker 1>the canvas head first, as Vince says, Nikolai's Volkoff's gas tank, <v Speaker 1>et cetera. We get a glimpse of the crowd and <v Speaker 1>they're so panicked and so dialed into San Martino's struggle. <v Speaker 1>Nobody's looking around, nobody's distracted. Everyone wants to suits on <v Speaker 1>their phone to say the least uh bertis Himno, kicks <v Speaker 1>the ribs and stands on the back of his fucking head, <v Speaker 1>Volkov's head as he tries to retreat to the dle. <v Speaker 1>Then he kicks him out to the floor. We have <v Speaker 1>some police officers in motion with night sticks as a <v Speaker 1>matter of fact, that you can see down on the floor, <v Speaker 1>trying to keep the fans from striking Nikola. <v Speaker 2>In the middle. Yeah, well, because they're like, you know, <v Speaker 2>there really isn't much preventing not really the fans from <v Speaker 2>there's no guard rails, let alone the fucking you know, uh, <v Speaker 2>you know fucking thing they have now that they have <v Speaker 2>the britaining barrier. <v Speaker 1>Yeah, they I'd imagine the rule of thumb is like, <v Speaker 1>don't let one fan get away with attacking a heel, <v Speaker 1>because then it becomes a riot. Like if the first <v Speaker 1>fan feels like he's got it, in the second, the third, <v Speaker 1>and it's over at that point, you can't. They have <v Speaker 1>some experience with the riots in the garden, that's for sure. <v Speaker 1>As we talked about go back to the what was <v Speaker 1>Argentina Roka in the horror movie? <v Speaker 2>Uh, he was the Alice, Sweet Alice. <v Speaker 1>We talk a lot about the garden riot that caused <v Speaker 1>the Garden close to wrestling for years. So that's going down. <v Speaker 1>And then Nicoleve o'clock climbs back in and Bruno Simartino <v Speaker 1>with a float like a butterfly, sting like a b <v Speaker 1>series of punches. Definitely he does, taking a book out <v Speaker 1>of a page ont Muhammad Ali's book. Series of japs <v Speaker 1>to the face, kick, kick to the chest drops him <v Speaker 1>and the crowd is with it as Simmartino conquers him, <v Speaker 1>and then he rubs his foot on a le Volkov's <v Speaker 1>nose on the mat. He was, he was vicious man. Berno, <v Speaker 1>Simarentino got in the fucking mud. <v Speaker 2>He really, no, he did. I mean he did with <v Speaker 2>with a lot of the opponents on his tape. He <v Speaker 2>was very rough. <v Speaker 1>Indeed, uh Volkoff stands up and raises his hand leaning <v Speaker 1>up against the ropes, and Vince laughs and says, for <v Speaker 1>some reason he thinks he should be declared victorious. <v Speaker 2>I love that moment. That was a brilliant fucking moment. <v Speaker 2>I don't know if that was his idea or Bruno <v Speaker 2>told him to do that, but I thought that was <v Speaker 2>an absolutely brilliant moment. <v Speaker 1>He's basically saying like he just cheated and I should <v Speaker 1>win by DQ. Yeah, but it didn't happen. Vince says, unquestionably, <v Speaker 1>it's Sammartino with all the momentum in the world right now, <v Speaker 1>but don't count out Nikolai Volkov a very crafty individual. Yes, <v Speaker 1>and Olkoff then throws a head butt to the gut. <v Speaker 2>I can definitely sense craft going on here. Yeah, well, <v Speaker 2>Mac and Cheese, especially in the Volkov side. <v Speaker 1>Yes, who throws a head butt to the gut of <v Speaker 1>Brunos Hammartino That drops him and then he shouts, does Volkov? <v Speaker 5>Ah? <v Speaker 1>Is he rained down? <v Speaker 2>He should have fucking put in that goddamn sound effect. <v Speaker 1>We know that one. <v Speaker 2>Don't wait for the past. Yep, he used to do <v Speaker 2>it even back then. He's a hilarious such an idiot, <v Speaker 2>it really is. Picture is like his little boy face, <v Speaker 2>you know right, you know, like with his droopy eyes. <v Speaker 2>He always looks like. <v Speaker 1>Someone like unattended by parents coming to Ellis Island. <v Speaker 2>He always just like a kid, like in the backyard <v Speaker 2>who'd like just I don't know, gutting like a fight <v Speaker 2>and is posing for a picture from in front of <v Speaker 2>the family or whatever, you know, like he's just a <v Speaker 2>goof just. <v Speaker 1>Get a I don't know, he's just cut these like <v Speaker 1>this boyish face to me that kind of belies his <v Speaker 1>vicious reputation. <v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly. <v Speaker 1>So he gets a stump to the gut for two, <v Speaker 1>and then he goes to the sleeperhole doers Volkov. They <v Speaker 1>flash forward again and it's Nikolai Volkov tucking in a <v Speaker 1>short front headlock reversed whip and uh, Volkov hits the <v Speaker 1>buckle and stumbles out of the corner right into the <v Speaker 1>schoolboy roll up of Nicolai Volkov. Part of me of <v Speaker 1>Bruno Simmartino who gets the one, two, three and the victory. <v Speaker 1>So Bruno getting it done. <v Speaker 2>When he was in the fucking ninety two rumble. By <v Speaker 2>the way, Nikolai. <v Speaker 1>Volkoff, goodness, think about the tenure. <v Speaker 2>Because he's fucking and not to mention when he joined <v Speaker 2>the million dollars the first million dollar corporation. Uh uh <v Speaker 2>higher e, when he got that awful hair. <v Speaker 1>Remember he had the jacket where instead of the dollar <v Speaker 1>sign of was a cents sign. <v Speaker 2>That's how much it was worth. <v Speaker 3>True. <v Speaker 1>Here he is drawing dollars against Bruno in the guard. <v Speaker 1>I had no idea as a kid watching the million <v Speaker 1>dollar corporation days. <v Speaker 2>And he's, oh right, that's what I mean. Like he <v Speaker 2>just even even watching his earlier stuff, even when he <v Speaker 2>was part of the Bolsheviks. I'm like, this guy's a <v Speaker 2>goof right totally. <v Speaker 1>So he goes up. He gets up right away, does <v Speaker 1>nicholae olcough, much rejoicing from the MSG crowd. They go wild, then, <v Speaker 1>says and Arnold Scullin's in the ring, who of course <v Speaker 1>was Berno Simartino's manager, with the wide collar and the <v Speaker 1>title in case. <v Speaker 2>He was wondering, fucking guy, like you know, he's like <v Speaker 2>he's like the uncle like back then. I think I <v Speaker 2>think of like the uncle who's whose fashion sense peaked <v Speaker 2>in like nine eighteen fifty nine. Yeah, and he just <v Speaker 2>he doesn't have anything else to wear. That to him <v Speaker 2>is like the peak of fashion. So he never changed. <v Speaker 1>He's got the wide leisure suit though, he's got those <v Speaker 1>long collars going. Yeah, so he's got the seventy stuff going. <v Speaker 1>But he stayed there. <v Speaker 2>I mean, look at his hair, like his hair is <v Speaker 2>just like you know, Arnie. <v Speaker 1>His whole thing was he would he was the guy <v Speaker 1>that Vincent trusted to bring the cash from the towns <v Speaker 1>and put it into the bank and not siphon some <v Speaker 1>off the top. So if you can do that as <v Speaker 1>a loyal lieutenant and not arouse suspicion that you're trying <v Speaker 1>to pocket some for yourself, you've got a job for <v Speaker 1>life over there. And yeah, earn some extra coin managing Bruno. <v Speaker 1>That can't hurt be out there for every main event. Sure, <v Speaker 1>sure they replay the reversed Irish Whip. This is the <v Speaker 1>you know, the MSG feed that you should go out <v Speaker 1>on HBO if you can believe it in the MSG <v Speaker 1>television network in New York where Bernisimmethiner just dropped his <v Speaker 1>body and kind of like he didn't really do a schoolboy, <v Speaker 1>He just like dropped down behind oh the what right, <v Speaker 1>just drop down behind Volkov and let him trip over <v Speaker 1>him and then yeah, almost like a football ligneman like <v Speaker 1>drive someone out, you know, yeah, the brook or something. <v Speaker 1>So we're going out of March nineteen seventy seven, Madison <v Speaker 1>Square Gardening yet another indeed title defense yep. <v Speaker 4>Well, again a bit of a surprise for me because <v Speaker 4>he has a great amateur background and I expected to <v Speaker 4>be involved in a great scientific wrestling match, but instead <v Speaker 4>von Ruski came in a rank and he too, really <v Speaker 4>tried to take the title off me by brutal tactics. <v Speaker 4>So all of a sudden, I found myself really fighting <v Speaker 4>for my life, and again I had to go with <v Speaker 4>his tactics, say, which turned out to be an extremely <v Speaker 4>tough and difficult bout. But I did okay, I did okay, <v Speaker 4>A true but. <v Speaker 1>It is a tough and difficult bout. It's difficult bout tonight, Bruno, <v Speaker 1>do you have any comments on tonight's bout? <v Speaker 2>Oh? <v Speaker 1>Good stuff. <v Speaker 2>I want to note too. So when I was looking <v Speaker 2>up this is also yeah, obviously Madison Square Garden, I <v Speaker 2>was verifying the lows and date, and I saw that <v Speaker 2>on February second of nineteen seventy seven, the WWWE held <v Speaker 2>a show at Bishop Gurton High School in Nashvin, New Hampshire, <v Speaker 2>My fucking high school. Kidding me, nope, And I was like, <v Speaker 2>what the fuck? <v Speaker 1>That's a weird one. <v Speaker 2>Yep, Rocky to Mao faced Larry's Obisco Baron Michael Sekluno <v Speaker 2>versus Special Delivery Jones, Johnny Rivera versus Doug Gilbert, Jose <v Speaker 2>Gonzalez versus San Stasiac and in the main event, the <v Speaker 2>WWWE Tag Team Champions Chief j Strongbow and Billy White <v Speaker 2>Wolf versus Torkamata and Bruiser Brody. So Bruiser Brody stepped <v Speaker 2>foot in my high school. It's wild, man, it is wild, <v Speaker 2>functually fucking wild. Yeah, just skimming through it, I would <v Speaker 2>have never known. I had never known. <v Speaker 1>That was you know, New England and stuff in the Northeast, <v Speaker 1>like you had those towns that they still made and <v Speaker 1>I mean this is still I shouldn't say still. They <v Speaker 1>hadn't gone national yet. That was Vince's operation, Vince Senior's operation. <v Speaker 1>You know, they would still play little high schools and <v Speaker 1>stuff to get into the every town they could in <v Speaker 1>the whole region. <v Speaker 2>And that's just wild because I mean, like I mean, <v Speaker 2>I guess, but you know, and I mean I know <v Speaker 2>back in those days it's like going going a half hours, <v Speaker 2>like going it's like driving two hours. But you know, <v Speaker 2>there were other places that they could have gone to <v Speaker 2>get a better stadium. Again, I think maybe not maybe <v Speaker 2>not maybe that's maybe fucking the gym at Bishop of <v Speaker 2>Curtin high schools. They did it outside. I don't know. <v Speaker 1>That's why they all remember Chief j Strongbow were from, <v Speaker 1>you know, because he would be a guy on the poster, <v Speaker 1>you know, at the high school. His partner Billy white Wolf. <v Speaker 1>Do you know that was? I do, but I forget <v Speaker 1>General Adnan. <v Speaker 6>Oh. <v Speaker 1>Yes, as Billy white Wolf, the Native American. Back then <v Speaker 1>they used to love to have an American gimmick on <v Speaker 1>the card, and Jay Strongbow made a career out of it. <v Speaker 1>He certainly did so. Yeah, seventy seven quite a year <v Speaker 1>for Bruno, a lot of interesting challenges coming through Ken <v Speaker 1>Peterra kicking the year off. We're going to see him later. <v Speaker 2>Oh my god, seriously. <v Speaker 1>And yeah, this March twenty eighth, nineteen seventy seven close <v Speaker 1>circuit felt for him. Bruno over Baron in seventeen minutes <v Speaker 1>and thirty five seconds via DQ. Also in the card <v Speaker 1>that night, Ivan putskin Larry's Obisco over Ken Peterra. Would <v Speaker 1>went to a draw with Ken Peterra and stan Stasiac. <v Speaker 1>Dusty Rhodes is an MSG taking on Tour Commada and <v Speaker 1>much more action. The feud would continue back then would <v Speaker 1>wait a minute, Berno Serentertato would face Baron von Roschkie <v Speaker 1>and Able twenty fifth nineteen seventy seven as well in <v Speaker 1>a heavyly title match and pick up the victory. He <v Speaker 1>then moved on to George Steele and then Superstar Billy Graham. <v Speaker 1>And we know seventy seven is the year where Graham <v Speaker 1>takes the strap off of Ye Bruno. So we're looking <v Speaker 1>here at Bruno's final year as WWF champion. Look at that. <v Speaker 2>That's right, it's insane, Gene says. <v Speaker 1>The crowd noise is unbelievable. You heard all that, and <v Speaker 1>again Berno throwing in the proviso as to why we <v Speaker 1>will see a lot in the way of technical wrestling <v Speaker 1>is Bruno faces the baron On Raski shows uh with <v Speaker 1>a robe and Freddy Blasti. He's got Freddy Blasts in <v Speaker 1>his corner as mentioned and Uh even before the bell <v Speaker 1>he attacks Sam Martino and he's choking him with his <v Speaker 1>robe on the mat and stopping him out. Baron von <v Speaker 1>Rashki brings down the claw to the heart of San <v Speaker 1>Martinos well corner to corner on the whip and San <v Speaker 1>Martino hits and then his hip tossed, and Vince says, <v Speaker 1>it's von Rashka. That's how he pronounces that, von Rashka, <v Speaker 1>von Rashke. But I can see why you'd say von Rashka. <v Speaker 1>I don't know. <v Speaker 2>I imagine that Vince just doesn't know. So yeah, I <v Speaker 2>mean everyone else says rashk. They do. It's the only <v Speaker 2>time I've ever heard it pronounced that way, So I <v Speaker 2>would imagine that Vince just doesn't know who he is. <v Speaker 1>Well, the baron gets a one, and then we have <v Speaker 1>fever pitch and MSG because these these these fans are <v Speaker 1>worried that Bruno's in trouble yep, and as von rask <v Speaker 1>he's a scary individual is Oh my god, he's a <v Speaker 1>nosferatu in there. <v Speaker 2>He really, I mean he he looks. Yeah, he looks <v Speaker 2>like a like a mouse or something. <v Speaker 1>Yeah, like an alien, you know, right, like something just <v Speaker 1>like came out of an alien's would. <v Speaker 4>I know. <v Speaker 2>He's got such a weirdly shaped body, like it's almost <v Speaker 2>I wish I could. I can't think of a way <v Speaker 2>to describe it. But but he's so bottom heavy, you know, <v Speaker 2>like he's so weird. <v Speaker 1>Like extremely uncomfortable. <v Speaker 2>His proportions, yes, and in his ears, those fucking giant ears. <v Speaker 2>He's just he's a very He's not someone you enjoy looking. <v Speaker 1>At, especially if you're a Bruto fans back in seventies. <v Speaker 2>This is true. <v Speaker 1>Lifts a claw to do it again, and Bruno kicks <v Speaker 1>him from his back and that gets a big yeah <v Speaker 1>from the crowd. And then Bruno starts slugging him from <v Speaker 1>his knees and drops him and they go up again <v Speaker 1>with Bruno as he comes up with a right hook. <v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, yeah, the go nuts whip to the corner, <v Speaker 1>They go nuts absolutely. San Martino then soars into a <v Speaker 1>boot but then blows it off and then goes off <v Speaker 1>with more body shots. Man, I used to love when <v Speaker 1>Bruno will load you up in the corner with those <v Speaker 1>body shots. Yep, that's good stuff. And then a right <v Speaker 1>up top and Baron Brown Rosky's bouncing all over the <v Speaker 1>top rope. <v Speaker 2>It's like it's like what Undertaker tried to do. It is, <v Speaker 2>you know, like but fucking Bruno, Like, you can't fucking <v Speaker 2>match that guy. <v Speaker 1>He just bowled his head down and went to work. <v Speaker 2>Yep. Yeah. <v Speaker 1>And Van Rashki's fucking great. He's like flailing along the <v Speaker 1>ropes like a boxer would trying to find refuge. You know, <v Speaker 1>he's like spending on the ropes, ye, bouncing all over <v Speaker 1>the place. His neck is wiggling everywhere, and he's good. <v Speaker 1>He was really good selling here for Bruno. Bruno digs <v Speaker 1>aknee into the temple and Baron Varan Rashki hits the deck, <v Speaker 1>all tied up and crouched on the rope, flailing trying <v Speaker 1>to get his wits about him. Vince McMahon a bit uncoordinated. <v Speaker 1>Vince calls Baron von Roschki at this moment after that <v Speaker 1>brutal attack by Samartino, which unquestionably he was justified, McMahon says, <v Speaker 1>just in case you're wondering, lock upside headlocked by Bruno, <v Speaker 1>Sammartino push off and van Rashki catches him and slams <v Speaker 1>him with a tight body slam and drops the elbow <v Speaker 1>for two on the champion. Vince with a quick no sir. <v Speaker 1>When Bruno Sammartino kicks out Baron von Rashki, then stalking <v Speaker 1>Sanmartino for the claw, but San Martino goes back to <v Speaker 1>the gut from his knees working on the abdominals as <v Speaker 1>Vince points out Baron Bruno. Sammartino then whips Van Rashki <v Speaker 1>into the corner to the ropes, and then a backdrop <v Speaker 1>nearly falls over and covers them for two back backdrop <v Speaker 1>in an arm drag by Sammartino a couple of them, <v Speaker 1>and then Van Rashki SCRAMs to the floor and they <v Speaker 1>want blood. They want blood from the man. Flash forward, <v Speaker 1>of course, yeah, exactly. Flash forward and Baron von Rashki <v Speaker 1>is stalling on the floor next to Artole Skull and <v Speaker 1>waiting for an opportune time to re engage, as we <v Speaker 1>see photographers ripping cigarettes indors. Oh my god, that's something <v Speaker 1>to see. <v Speaker 2>Can you imagine the smell of oh, Madison Square Garden. <v Speaker 1>Just the way your eyes would sting going to the match. <v Speaker 2>Just expect that that's the thing, like you go in <v Speaker 2>there expecting it. You know that it's gonna hurt. <v Speaker 1>Oh my god. You know everyone goes home smelling like <v Speaker 1>fucking smoke. You know that smell? <v Speaker 2>Yep. <v Speaker 1>Aaron von Rashki's back in Sanmartino puts his hand out <v Speaker 1>like he's gonna lock up, and then kicks and punches <v Speaker 1>by Baron von Roski Getshi up against the ropes and <v Speaker 1>Simmartino with a huge running start and a flying kick <v Speaker 1>to the stomach. He would take off and then just <v Speaker 1>kick you. <v Speaker 2>Yep, it's so great, it's so great. <v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's just like he's just being violent, you know. <v Speaker 1>That's he's throwing tactics out the window. Baron von roskiy <v Speaker 1>then is tied up in the ropes and looks to <v Speaker 1>the people and they're going insane. Simmartino looks to the <v Speaker 1>people before he continues to engage. <v Speaker 2>He and then he runs the ropes and connects with <v Speaker 2>a pair of boots. He's fucking ridiculous, Like, off the ropes, <v Speaker 2>you got a guy who's just not mobile, right, and <v Speaker 2>you go from from coast to coast and just drive <v Speaker 2>a boot in his face. <v Speaker 1>And it's the son of a bitch that you know <v Speaker 1>had the gall to attack Bruno from behind before the <v Speaker 1>bell too, right, This is all like he's getting. He's <v Speaker 1>absolutely deserving what he's getting. The ref finally gets Baron <v Speaker 1>von Rashki free from the ropes, and he gets a <v Speaker 1>chop in the throat and drop say Martino with a <v Speaker 1>short punch and a headlock and back in control than <v Speaker 1>Rashki now stalking with those fingers extended, ready for a claw. <v Speaker 2>Listen, listen to the Vince. This is what I think <v Speaker 2>is amazing. What he calls the trademark maneuver. <v Speaker 5>RASA noted presently for a whole he calls the brain claw. <v Speaker 2>The what the brain claw? I've never heard it called <v Speaker 2>the brain claw before. It's called the claw, Vince, or <v Speaker 2>exactly just the claw to the head, the brain claw. <v Speaker 1>That would have been a better movie title. The Rasca <v Speaker 1>is stalking with those fingers extended. Throw some clubbing shots <v Speaker 1>on Bruno and the claw is hooked in. Vince says <v Speaker 1>he's working on the neck muscles. What does it mean <v Speaker 1>to work on someone's neck muscles? <v Speaker 2>Working the neck muscular shirt? <v Speaker 1>Is he a fucking massage therapist or is he a wrestling. <v Speaker 2>He's working the tendons, yeah, you know, and working the. <v Speaker 1>Nodes, looking to relief pressure. Aaron von Rashki now engaged <v Speaker 1>in reiki. Aaron von Reichy, He's. <v Speaker 7>The Lapsed Fan Wrestling podcast, the wrestling podcast that knows <v Speaker 7>the boys need their candy. It's the Lapsed Fan. He's <v Speaker 7>the Lapsed Fan Wrestling Podcast with Jack and Carnacio. <v Speaker 1>M JP soorro warm stones being applied dow to the <v Speaker 1>back of Bruno and then happen and certainly, unquestionably this <v Speaker 1>Madison Square garden crowd hoping for a happy ending. Is <v Speaker 1>there a zero percent chance that San Martino didn't turn <v Speaker 1>over with the towel and, let you know, let a <v Speaker 1>happy ending dribble out of his cock when a massage <v Speaker 1>therapists and queens went too far. <v Speaker 2>Oh, I mean, listen, if it happens, it happens, I <v Speaker 2>think Bruno, you know, I think, you know, I actually <v Speaker 2>I wouldn't put it past Bruno to like not even <v Speaker 2>just question it, like it's just like, oh, that's what happens. <v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, she insisted. I didn't want to be rude. <v Speaker 2>She grabbed the cock, right, what do you want me <v Speaker 2>to do? <v Speaker 1>I understand not being rude Bruno, but did you have <v Speaker 1>to curl your toes and scream I love it so much? <v Speaker 2>Did you have to go ah right when she said sure, <v Speaker 2>would you like a happy ending? Did you just have <v Speaker 2>to say yeah, sure right? <v Speaker 1>Did you have to say this is exactly what I <v Speaker 1>came for as you finished? Did you have to say <v Speaker 1>this is exactly what I came for your officer. <v Speaker 2>Like also, like turns over and it's like, you know, <v Speaker 2>a fucking mountain, all right, Like it's just honestly, it <v Speaker 2>turns over and all of a sudden, it's like this <v Speaker 2>fucking mountain right by his fucking crush. And she's like, well, <v Speaker 2>I guess I gotta do this now, absolutely, I guess <v Speaker 2>this is happening Bruno. Bruno, yeah, sure, Oh god, that's good. <v Speaker 1>By the way, the brain claw is what he's known <v Speaker 1>principally for the word. The word principally is doing a <v Speaker 1>lot of work there, Oh my god, principally Flash forward <v Speaker 1>and Van Rashki is squeezing one peck, just one peck <v Speaker 1>of Bruno's basically grabbing his titty, and Bruno's. <v Speaker 2>Rocking so ridiculous, so ridiculous. <v Speaker 1>Bruno's rocking back and forth. We're getting to aknee. Throws <v Speaker 1>a punch to break but selling the left arm big time. <v Speaker 1>Then Berna Semertino closes in with the kick to the <v Speaker 1>gut and another whipping a hip toss, and so tall <v Speaker 1>is Baron von Rashki yea Berna Simertino almost completely loses <v Speaker 1>his balance from a hiptos a guy of this height <v Speaker 1>covers Van Rashki for two, and then Simartino charges. <v Speaker 2>I love the idea that in this day and age, <v Speaker 2>in the nineteen seventies, a hip toss calls for a pin. <v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, that could be curtains. You're obliged to capitalize. <v Speaker 1>I know, it's so funny, unbelievable. Bernas Simertato with a <v Speaker 1>charging gets body slammed again. <v Speaker 2>And I guess it's unbelievable because we have like wrestlers, <v Speaker 2>and therefore wrestling fans have ruined moves so much over <v Speaker 2>the years. Yeah. <v Speaker 1>Yeah, the fact that these guys have to go as <v Speaker 1>far as they do to convince the crowd this could <v Speaker 1>be a near fall? Is it is a tragedy? I mean, <v Speaker 1>I guess it's. I guess it's unavoidable, but it's accelerated <v Speaker 1>way more than necessary. <v Speaker 2>I mean, it's unavoidable to a degree, but it's only <v Speaker 2>unavoidable as much as people let it be unavoidable, right, <v Speaker 2>Like you know, I don't know when. <v Speaker 1>Somebody goes further to get attention, it's going to be <v Speaker 1>so much easier to find. That's the thing. Like if <v Speaker 1>someone out there was doing twelve times the offense and <v Speaker 1>kicking out. No one that went to the see Bruno <v Speaker 1>with the Garden would see that, So they wouldn't see <v Speaker 1>a version of wrestling where a hip toss meant nothing <v Speaker 1>and a top rope power bomb a guy kicked out of. <v Speaker 1>They wouldn't see that. But now it's like everybody sees <v Speaker 1>everything when someone ups the ante on what you can <v Speaker 1>kick out of. <v Speaker 2>And I imagine a lot of it has to do <v Speaker 2>with technology and yeah and whatever, and also the incorporation <v Speaker 2>of different international styles of wrestling. But it's like, you <v Speaker 2>think about, you know this stuff, you know the moves <v Speaker 2>that he's going for. It's not like they it was. <v Speaker 2>It was kind of new that they were doing. They <v Speaker 2>were doing this pinning after moves like that for decades, decades, <v Speaker 2>decades before it changed. <v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, you don't see that much anymore. You even <v Speaker 1>seehiptoses hardly at all anymore. I'll begin with but yeah, <v Speaker 1>so he does that and then he charges, he gets <v Speaker 1>slammed again, and Van Rashke goes for another elbow drop, <v Speaker 1>but this time he misses and rings out his hand <v Speaker 1>like he's got pins and needles in him. It's a <v Speaker 1>nice callback to the earlier spot and then San Maartino <v Speaker 1>with a headlock push off. They collide, both go down <v Speaker 1>and Baron von Rashki flips over on his neck on impacts. <v Speaker 1>He's out there bumping, man, He's not just falling backwards. <v Speaker 1>He's rolling all the way over in the back of <v Speaker 1>his head and he is doing what it. San Martino <v Speaker 1>makes his way over to a lateral press that gets <v Speaker 1>too on Van Rashki. Then Rashki's up first rings down <v Speaker 1>a shot. The ring is rattling as he's putting the <v Speaker 1>stomps to the champion. He drops a knee and covers <v Speaker 1>Bruno for one. Bruno in green trunks by the way <v Speaker 1>for this encounter, and then Bruto Semartino is throwing off <v Speaker 1>his back and his knees. Man nobody came up fighting <v Speaker 1>like Bruno. <v Speaker 2>Man, oh no, no one? Did I mean he came <v Speaker 2>out He's like he's like Rocky, yes, you know, like <v Speaker 2>he really is Rocky. <v Speaker 1>If boxing allowed you to fight before you get on <v Speaker 1>your feet again, right right, and he doubles over Van <v Speaker 1>Rashki with a shot to the gut and plants. <v Speaker 2>And also the time perre where they had the two <v Speaker 2>hard camera angles from different different sides of the of <v Speaker 2>the arena. I hated it. I hate it so much. <v Speaker 2>So it's so confusing when like you see, you know, uh, <v Speaker 2>like just the changing of the of the but it <v Speaker 2>doesn't even look like you know, because they're almost at <v Speaker 2>the exact same angle, but just from different sides, and <v Speaker 2>it's so confusing and jarring. <v Speaker 1>Yeah, production values were hardly through the roof back then. Yeah, <v Speaker 1>you just had some cameramen showing up filming the matches <v Speaker 1>like they'd film a fucking tennis match. <v Speaker 4>You know. <v Speaker 1>It's like no real consideration given to it beyond that <v Speaker 1>Ye plants and needed the side of the great shot <v Speaker 1>of a woman clutching her pearls and rooting for Sammartino <v Speaker 1>just for a moment there. Samartino goes off with those <v Speaker 1>jabs and right hooks and he drops Baron von Roschki <v Speaker 1>covers him, but van Rashki puts his foot on the rope. <v Speaker 1>Flash forward and now it's Bruno Simmartino kicking Van Rashki <v Speaker 1>while he's down back up in a big right hand, <v Speaker 1>and Van Rashki steel spills rather over the top rope <v Speaker 1>to the arena floor. Bruno Simartino is about to go <v Speaker 1>after him, but no. Baron von Rashki picks the ankle <v Speaker 1>and Bruno Simartino has it tied up in the rope suddenly, <v Speaker 1>and this allows Baron von Rashki to grab a steel <v Speaker 1>chair and bash Bruno Simartino in the back to add contest. <v Speaker 1>They are screaming because Samartino's foot is caught in the rope. <v Speaker 1>There's nowhere he can go, and stuff is now beginning <v Speaker 1>to fly into the ring, drink cups and the like. <v Speaker 1>At the slightest provocation, they would do that. <v Speaker 2>Unbelievable, really unbelievable. <v Speaker 1>Reft's trying to break it up as Sammartino is in <v Speaker 1>peril and Varon Rashki's taking advantage of the situation. Very <v Speaker 1>effective stuff. I can see how this match set the <v Speaker 1>tone for the rematch. I mentioned that they came back <v Speaker 1>with so a couple of pay days in the garden <v Speaker 1>for Baron vron Rashki. <v Speaker 2>Here there's a sign in the crowd that says Bruno <v Speaker 2>is Uno. That's hard wonder so like was that the <v Speaker 2>ichi bon Bruno sam Martino? <v Speaker 1>You could say that, you could say that a bunch <v Speaker 1>of baby faces hit the ring to try to stop <v Speaker 1>van rashcuie to a big round of cheers. They're trying <v Speaker 1>to peel van Rashki off of Sanmartino and he's rabid <v Speaker 1>is Baron von Rashki. I think David Sammartino is among <v Speaker 1>them and two other guys. And there's some officials out <v Speaker 1>trying to free Bruno's leg from the ropes. And we <v Speaker 1>see a couple of guys basically trying to shoot single <v Speaker 1>leg takedowns on Baron von Rashki to keep him away <v Speaker 1>from Bruno. And they hustle, they hustle Bruno Baron von <v Speaker 1>Rashki up the isle and to the back to keep <v Speaker 1>him away from better yet better Bruno. Wow, what an <v Speaker 1>incredible mustard colored suit on whoever that ring announcer was, <v Speaker 1>I couldn't identify what is he doing? Some in seventeen <v Speaker 1>forty five rough Danny Bardfield just qualifies Baron von Rashki <v Speaker 1>awarded the victory in the match to Bruno Simmartino. That <v Speaker 1>gets pop, but brunos Abartino left kind of motionless on <v Speaker 1>the canvas and yeah, there's your Bruno Zuno sign Gene. <v Speaker 1>Now to transition to Ken Peterra. <v Speaker 2>Here we go and this is what Bruno has to <v Speaker 2>say about it. <v Speaker 4>Well, you know, Gene, when I was matched against Ken Peterra, <v Speaker 4>I went back into some real power lifting because I <v Speaker 4>knew the strength of Ken Peterra and overall was known <v Speaker 4>for my own strength. But I realized that in Peterra <v Speaker 4>I was meaning a bigger man who had been in <v Speaker 4>the Olympic Game several times and turned out to be <v Speaker 4>really one of the great bouts because not only was <v Speaker 4>a test of strength, but a lot of wrestling involved <v Speaker 4>in it, and it was truly one of the greatest <v Speaker 4>bouts that I've ever had. <v Speaker 1>The greatest bouts he ever had. Wow. Okay, It's turned <v Speaker 1>to Ken Peterra's book Weight of the World to get <v Speaker 1>a viewpoint on what it was like working in Sanmartino <v Speaker 1>in seventy six. By the end of the summer of <v Speaker 1>seventy six, I was chatting with Larry's Obisco and he <v Speaker 1>mentioned that Bruno Sammartino wanted to connect with me. I <v Speaker 1>was excited, to say the very least. Today the Disney <v Speaker 1>kids say, we don't talk about Bruno, but back then <v Speaker 1>Bruno was all anyone talked about. Another example of his <v Speaker 1>co author in servings of in the wrestling world. Bruno <v Speaker 1>and Larry were engaged in a tremendous feud and one <v Speaker 1>that made them a lot of money. However, it was <v Speaker 1>coming to an end soon, and Bruno liked to have <v Speaker 1>things set up for his next feud before it was over. Yeah, <v Speaker 1>don't forget that. As much as Vince Senior played a role, <v Speaker 1>Bruno booked his own programs. <v Speaker 2>Right, and he really did. <v Speaker 1>He would recruit heels, he would run into a hereabout <v Speaker 1>around the country or in Japan and bring them to MSG. <v Speaker 1>He pretty much was a small business in that regard. <v Speaker 1>Larry and Bruno's feud was so heated, it was frenzied. <v Speaker 1>It was brutal, the young machine going against the seasoned veteran. <v Speaker 1>They sold out Madison Square Garden and Chase Stadium and <v Speaker 1>basically everywhere they went. Sibisco and I had started around <v Speaker 1>the same time. See this all happened after the Bruno <v Speaker 1>was a Bisco fud happened after Petera came in. So <v Speaker 1>I don't know what it is. He's right, he's kind <v Speaker 1>of assigning that as if it was a tailwind to <v Speaker 1>him coming in anyway. <v Speaker 2>But nobody knows what they're fucking talking about at all, <v Speaker 2>but he. <v Speaker 1>Was on fire at that point. He had turned on <v Speaker 1>Bruno at precisely the right time and his startdom exploded. <v Speaker 1>See that's asked back. He think he turned on nineteen eighty, <v Speaker 1>didn't he? And this match is in seventy seven. <v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, it's ad because that's what we were looking <v Speaker 2>for the show, the Shay Stadium show. <v Speaker 1>When I first called Bruno, his mind was already made up. <v Speaker 1>He wanted to run with me, and it turned out <v Speaker 1>he had already been looking to help me get into <v Speaker 1>the WWF. He connected me with Vince McMahon Senior, and <v Speaker 1>that started my first Foray North. The first Vince was <v Speaker 1>my preferred McMahon. If I'm being completely honest, He saw <v Speaker 1>potential in me even before I ever set foot in <v Speaker 1>a ring. For him, he didn't live in his own <v Speaker 1>world with blinders, honest. Some m'd argue about his son. <v Speaker 1>He did his homework and was a complete professional, having <v Speaker 1>already researched my accolades. He was familiar with my wrestling <v Speaker 1>and athletic background. I'm glad we got together to chat <v Speaker 1>here because Bruno already let me know he'd like to <v Speaker 1>work with you. He has a lot of good things <v Speaker 1>to say about you, Vince explained. So maybe once you're <v Speaker 1>done with Watts you can come up, he asked, absolutely, sir. <v Speaker 1>So apparently he was down in the Mid South territory <v Speaker 1>before coming to WWF here. The timing was also just great. <v Speaker 1>It worked out well for me because I was finishing <v Speaker 1>up in Texas. Texas it was, but I didn't have Yeah, <v Speaker 1>I remember there was that cooperation between Fritz and Bill Watts, <v Speaker 1>but I didn't have anything after that tour booked, so <v Speaker 1>I reached out to Wats and looked for his blessing. <v Speaker 1>No problem, Ken, you hadn't up north. Sounds good, he said, <v Speaker 1>simply enough. Of course, Wats had made a ton of <v Speaker 1>money with Bruno in the Garden, so he's not against it. Yes, <v Speaker 1>might be good for me. Well, we can take you <v Speaker 1>off the program with Funk. Bill told me he was <v Speaker 1>working Terry Funk. Wow, I can stick with someone else. Wow, <v Speaker 1>I can stick them with someone else. He seemed like <v Speaker 1>he was completely fine with everything. Why can't we finish <v Speaker 1>the Terry thing. I'm not going to the first of <v Speaker 1>the year, I asked, doesn't matter. Okay, that works, We'll <v Speaker 1>put you with someone else then, I'll see in December. <v Speaker 1>Thanksgiving came, there was a big show, but I had <v Speaker 1>been written off with someone else facing funk. When I <v Speaker 1>got to my next show for Watts after that, I <v Speaker 1>had no idea that I had another thing coming. We're <v Speaker 1>worry on Thanksgiving, Watts shouted at me as I wheeled <v Speaker 1>my bag in. What are you talking about? You canceled <v Speaker 1>the program I was doing and told me you would <v Speaker 1>see me in December, I asked, utterly, stunned by the <v Speaker 1>spectacle that was being put on. I don't give a <v Speaker 1>damn if you're going up north. You just don't have <v Speaker 1>to phone in your last few shows when you're working here. Man, <v Speaker 1>he yelled, But I have a rule about no show <v Speaker 1>on my shows. Do it and you're done. You know that, Ken, <v Speaker 1>You're fired, Bill? <v Speaker 2>There we go. <v Speaker 1>How can you fire me when I've already quit. I'm <v Speaker 1>leaving to go up north. Remember, I was getting a <v Speaker 1>little hot, but I quickly realized that this was less <v Speaker 1>about me and more about say face. Bill shook his head. <v Speaker 1>You know what, Bill, I get it. You got to <v Speaker 1>look tough in front of the boys, I said, repacking <v Speaker 1>my wow. Bill Watts was pulling some typical promoter behavior. <v Speaker 1>They would agree with you behind closed doors, then they <v Speaker 1>would act like they didn't in front of the boys. <v Speaker 2>To say, face, I get it. You don't want to <v Speaker 2>look like a bitch. <v Speaker 1>Yeah, God forbid, Bill Watts looks like a bitch. <v Speaker 2>That never happened. <v Speaker 1>I was worried that Bill's bullshit might change Vince mcmaon's <v Speaker 1>thoughts on me, especially if Wats took it to the <v Speaker 1>next level to call him and smarten him up. So <v Speaker 1>I figured I might have needed to make a preemptive strike. <v Speaker 1>I picked up the phone and told Vince about the <v Speaker 1>strange events that had just happened. There was a long pause. <v Speaker 1>To my surprise, Vince was utterly unfazed. He had heard <v Speaker 1>that before, been there, done that. Then he just laughed <v Speaker 1>hard at the whole situation. <v Speaker 2>Yeah, something that happens, and you know, we move on <v Speaker 2>from there, and you know, there are you know, we <v Speaker 2>have certain aspects of entertainment that require you know, different, <v Speaker 2>uh you know, varied personalities and characterizations that uh you <v Speaker 2>know DeFi that defy and you know, constantly evolve in <v Speaker 2>regards to the product that we're trying to put out. So, <v Speaker 2>you know, all things to. <v Speaker 1>Him, So I guess he's fine. Then I guess he's <v Speaker 1>fine to come in, And Okay, that's great. Can I <v Speaker 1>does that mean I'm good to come in? <v Speaker 2>What depends? I mean, we're talking about principally speaking and <v Speaker 2>unquestionably a variation of the of the desired you know, <v Speaker 2>character that you created in regards to your in ring <v Speaker 2>entertainment persona. And we have notwithstanding an agreement regarding your <v Speaker 2>talents and your abilities and the different strengths that you're <v Speaker 2>going to bring to the the w W E on <v Speaker 2>A on A on A on A on a you know, <v Speaker 2>ten nundion nine basis. <v Speaker 1>To be clear before you play dumb on that very <v Speaker 1>important point. I love always says principally principally speaking, unquestionably <v Speaker 1>tremendous stuff. So after that, after that pause, Vincentior laughs <v Speaker 1>and says, yep, that's Cowboy for are you? <v Speaker 2>He said? <v Speaker 1>Vince then paused again before laughing wildly into the phone. <v Speaker 1>You call him up once you're looking to go back <v Speaker 1>to Texas and he will act like none of this <v Speaker 1>ever happened. He was right too, Vince Senior knew him well. <v Speaker 1>I worked for Cowboy even after that point, and we <v Speaker 1>never spoke about that nonsense. <v Speaker 2>Again. <v Speaker 1>The good thing about being in New York was that <v Speaker 1>Vince Mcmahonsenior wasn't like other promoters. He was warm and <v Speaker 1>treated like family. I've said it before and I'll say <v Speaker 1>it again, Vince Senior is my preferred McMahon a million <v Speaker 1>times over. At that it got the point ken at <v Speaker 1>that point in WWWF history, Vince's guy was Bruno San Martino. <v Speaker 1>He was larger than life and a living legend. However, <v Speaker 1>any stars time to shine eventually comes to a close, <v Speaker 1>and his was coming. With seven years on top of <v Speaker 1>the New York territory, Bruno had sold out close to <v Speaker 1>two hundred Madison Square Garden made events. His fan appeal <v Speaker 1>still wasn't wavering. It is interesting to think about all <v Speaker 1>that he accomplished with no real gimmick. He had nothing <v Speaker 1>incredibly out of the ordinary about him. He was like <v Speaker 1>a superman in the eyes of the fans, and it <v Speaker 1>was all one hundred percent homegrown. Bruneau was just a <v Speaker 1>grown man who was considered crazy strong. He was someone <v Speaker 1>who would stand up and fight for what was right. <v Speaker 4>That was it. <v Speaker 1>Another crazy thing worth mentioning about Bruno is that he <v Speaker 1>never once went to the dark side, so to speak. <v Speaker 1>He stated a babyface his entire career. There was never <v Speaker 1>even a conversation around changing that status either. The crowd <v Speaker 1>looked at him as someone who couldn't be beaten. It <v Speaker 1>was like an unwritten rule. The sky was blue, money <v Speaker 1>was green, and Bruno would be the champion forever. Unfortunately, <v Speaker 1>we all get to the end of our run. Bruno <v Speaker 1>was on his way there and promo's Larry talked about <v Speaker 1>how he was a young machine. He pointed out how <v Speaker 1>Bruno had had broken his neck, had pins in his <v Speaker 1>knees and had been hurt so many times he had <v Speaker 1>to sit in a whirlpool for an hour before actually <v Speaker 1>getting his day started. That was all a shoot all <v Speaker 1>that was a hard truth for Bruno. His bump card <v Speaker 1>was almost filled up and planning for the other side <v Speaker 1>of Bruno's career, Vince Junior was highly involved with the transition. <v Speaker 1>He was coming up soon and it was understood that <v Speaker 1>eventually he would carry on the legacy, and he had ideas. Now, <v Speaker 1>Vince Junior was far more theatric as you know. He <v Speaker 1>told me himself that he'd loved the idea of an <v Speaker 1>all American or a patriotic character that would play on <v Speaker 1>the patriotic heart strings of the country. Oh that's a <v Speaker 1>direct quote. I don't doubt that direct quote heart strings, <v Speaker 1>heart strings. Knowing what we know now, I have to <v Speaker 1>assume that even back then, Vince Junior was planting the <v Speaker 1>seeds and planning his takeover and hopefully had me in <v Speaker 1>the back of his mind for a baby face turn. <v Speaker 1>As you know, hindsight is twenty twenty, the character that <v Speaker 1>Vince saw would ultimately be painted on Hulk Cogan's character <v Speaker 1>for the better part of the eighties. Only Vince Senior, <v Speaker 1>Bruno and Junior know for certain what they saw in <v Speaker 1>me or what their plans were for me. But I <v Speaker 1>was brought in and treated very fairly. Did they see <v Speaker 1>me as that patriotic world's strongest wrestler who might become <v Speaker 1>the face of their company? Who knows no, ken they didn't, <v Speaker 1>that's the answer. However, when I got there, I had <v Speaker 1>my robes and bleached blonde hair, and I still was <v Speaker 1>obviously a heel. When I first showed up for Vince Senior, <v Speaker 1>I started working for Special with Special Delivery Jones. After <v Speaker 1>that it was Kevin Sullivan. In less than one month <v Speaker 1>of being in the WWWF. On January seventeenth, nineteen seventy seven, <v Speaker 1>I was working Madison Square Garden against main eventing against <v Speaker 1>their top guy Bruno. It all moved so quickly to start. <v Speaker 1>They wanted as much heat on me as possible, so <v Speaker 1>they gave me a kickstart by making Captain Lou my manager. <v Speaker 1>We did this deal where Billy White Wolf went after <v Speaker 1>Lou before our our match had a Championship wrestling taping <v Speaker 1>in Philly. As a result, I put him in the <v Speaker 1>swinging full Nelson and refused to take it off. That's <v Speaker 1>the Swinging full Nelsons featured boss in the Colisseum video open. <v Speaker 2>Yep, that's right. <v Speaker 1>They pic poor Billy out in a stretcher and the <v Speaker 1>fans were informed I'd broken his neck. It's funny how <v Speaker 1>wrestling works. Billy would change from Native American to a <v Speaker 1>Rocky and eventually manage me and the AWA is adding <v Speaker 1>an LKC. But back in the WWWF, Lou was a <v Speaker 1>great mouthpiece for me and we got a ton of heat. <v Speaker 1>Lou at this point was right on his game. He <v Speaker 1>was one of the best talkers and one of the <v Speaker 1>best drinkers alive. Yes, Loud was possibly the worst alcoholic <v Speaker 1>I've ever seen. Try to keep this in mind. I <v Speaker 1>myself had been an alcoholic nearly my entire life. I <v Speaker 1>didn't know that. I didn't know that Pat Wow Ken, <v Speaker 1>Pat Ken, Pat, So I know that what I'm talking about. <v Speaker 1>And yes, this is the kettle calling the pot black. <v Speaker 1>When I say it about Lou, I say it with <v Speaker 1>peace and love. Peace and love. Lou would drink his <v Speaker 1>vodka like a chance. There's nothing to walk into a <v Speaker 1>locker room and see Lou passed out having polished off <v Speaker 1>a full. <v Speaker 2>Fucking now his ringo star, I know, I know, doing <v Speaker 2>a piece and love, piece and love, he says here. <v Speaker 1>It was nothing to see Lou passed out in the <v Speaker 1>locker room having polished off a full liter or two <v Speaker 1>of Smirnoff. And I'm thinking, alexis Smeirnoff or some generic <v Speaker 1>cheap ship that they used to clean bumper stickers off <v Speaker 1>of fenders. Bruno and I worked all the Matrox. What's that? <v Speaker 4>My brother? <v Speaker 2>What could possibly be objectionable? Are using? Could have cleaned <v Speaker 2>off bumpers? <v Speaker 5>Brother? <v Speaker 2>Fenders? What are we talking about? Fenders? Defenders? <v Speaker 5>Brother? <v Speaker 2>Who who are you fending off? Exacul who off? Why <v Speaker 2>do you need fenders? Why am I being fended off? <v Speaker 1>I don't fenders. <v Speaker 2>Who's fending, dude? <v Speaker 1>Exactly? I'm the champion around here and I have no fence, <v Speaker 1>are you? I thought we were fends to the end, brother, <v Speaker 1>fenders to the enders. <v Speaker 2>Fenders of the enders. <v Speaker 3>Dude? <v Speaker 2>Did you did you talk to Bruno? Who's talking about Bruno? <v Speaker 5>Brother? <v Speaker 1>He just comes to the locker room and like eighty nine, like, <v Speaker 1>no one's talking to ut Bruno in like three years. <v Speaker 2>It was kind of chilling, you know. It's like, you know, <v Speaker 2>everyone else is like talking to something. He's just hoping <v Speaker 2>the stands up there. He's just you know, waiting, and <v Speaker 2>about five minutes go by and everyone is still talking. <v Speaker 2>There's like a little lull in the conversation. So he's <v Speaker 2>been talking about Bruno. <v Speaker 4>Brother. <v Speaker 1>Everyone starts to like look at their hands, like, oh god, <v Speaker 1>we're going to. <v Speaker 2>Start this again. Well, I'm just saying, you know, dude, <v Speaker 2>no one has anything to say. Dude, I mean I've <v Speaker 2>been talking about Bruno. <v Speaker 1>I'm not afraid to admit it. <v Speaker 4>Brother. <v Speaker 2>You know Bruno. You know, Bruno was the guy I was. <v Speaker 1>Supposed to sit her and believe no one's talked about <v Speaker 1>Bruno lately. <v Speaker 5>Brother. <v Speaker 2>I mean, are you telling me that you know no <v Speaker 2>one in this in this locker room, brother, is thought <v Speaker 2>of You know what if Bruno or Hulkhoven. <v Speaker 1>Runs out, Hey Bruns you brother, what I heard you talking. <v Speaker 2>Abou about it? How about Brune Zel right here, dude, exactly, <v Speaker 2>Jim Bruno Zel. <v Speaker 1>Brother, I heard you talking about him. Brother. I mean, <v Speaker 1>you didn't put your hand up. I don't know what <v Speaker 1>that's about, dude. I don't think it's a big deal <v Speaker 1>that you talked. <v Speaker 2>To I mean, I mean, dude, I know that you <v Speaker 2>talked about him, brother. I know you've been saying you <v Speaker 2>know of the good old days with Bruno. Brother. Do <v Speaker 2>you know how I know how that's not you not <v Speaker 2>your business exactly. I just want to ask, but did <v Speaker 2>you did you call Bruno? <v Speaker 5>Brother? <v Speaker 2>I mean, have you been talking on the phone lately? <v Speaker 2>You said Bruno's call him back exactly exactly, She's saying <v Speaker 2>Bruno's coming back. So, Vince, have you called Bruno? <v Speaker 1>Of all the ones we've done over the years, we've <v Speaker 1>never done a Hogan a friend of Bruno. <v Speaker 2>But it makes all it makes the most sense of <v Speaker 2>all of them here talking to him. Brinzel b you're <v Speaker 2>talking about coming Jim Brinzell with his fucking cheeks up <v Speaker 2>by his eyebrows. <v Speaker 5>Oh my god, that was good. That is so good. <v Speaker 1>Bruno and I worked all the major arenas with the <v Speaker 1>terror Wrights to mostly sell out crowds. Our first of <v Speaker 1>four MSG matches didn't sell out because of a snowstorm, <v Speaker 1>but after that we did a Texas Death Match in <v Speaker 1>February of seventy seven that did. Then in March we <v Speaker 1>sold out again and went to a blood stoppage finished <v Speaker 1>by the referee. Bruno had opened me up right above <v Speaker 1>my eye and on the side of my face. I <v Speaker 1>remember the news article stating Bruno had me bleed so <v Speaker 1>badly that the referee stepped in to rescue me. Fucking <v Speaker 1>mark writer. Bruno and I sold out MSG one last <v Speaker 1>time together in August and another Texas Death match after <v Speaker 1>that run. They didn't just push me to the sidelines. <v Speaker 1>The rest of that year, I worked with a lot <v Speaker 1>of the big names there, like I've been Wait, you <v Speaker 1>say what August of seventy seven, that's what he just said? Yeah, <v Speaker 1>is that that's when this match happened. So this was <v Speaker 1>a Texas death match, which it which is kind of <v Speaker 1>of I mean, I guess I don't remember the one <v Speaker 1>that he said he used technical wrestling in right exactly exactly, Okay, <v Speaker 1>whatever you say. I mean, he might be now, I <v Speaker 1>would think his co author would have access to this <v Speaker 1>book and would probably uh be referencing it. But let's <v Speaker 1>see what year seventy seven we're talking. <v Speaker 2>About here, Yeah, okay, well, let's they face several times <v Speaker 2>and August and MSG. <v Speaker 1>Yeah, I have August one Bruno no contest at Superstar, <v Speaker 1>and then August twenty nine, that's this one Graham against <v Speaker 1>Putski and Bruno against Ken Peterotec's death match. Yeah, this <v Speaker 1>isn't for the title because this is after Graham beats <v Speaker 1>Bruno for the belt in Baltimore August twenty nine, seventy <v Speaker 1>seven attendants, twenty two thousand and nine one. So that's <v Speaker 1>kind of disingenuous when he actually they had a great <v Speaker 1>crowd when they they weren't even on top. This said <v Speaker 1>a lot lower than their than the Bruno versus Graham <v Speaker 1>match in August first of seventy seven, twenty six thousand <v Speaker 1>and six O nine, whereas August twenty nine to twenty <v Speaker 1>twenty ninety one, Superstar and Bruno in June. Let's see <v Speaker 1>in May sixteenth it was Bruno and George Steele. April <v Speaker 1>twenty fifth, it was aforementioned Bruno and Baron Berno and <v Speaker 1>Barron before that. Yeah, the first time they wrestled. This <v Speaker 1>must be the snowstorm he's talking about. With just sixteen <v Speaker 1>thousand attendance, which is low. Usually you go about twenty <v Speaker 1>two in the garden. <v Speaker 2>Hey, on the same show. Yes, on this Nikolai Volkoff <v Speaker 2>was pinned by Verne Gagney. <v Speaker 1>What what show? <v Speaker 2>What year? What day? Rather this one August twenty nine, <v Speaker 2>seventy seven, the show match God Vern came in, Vern <v Speaker 2>got the call, Vern got the call. The fuck does <v Speaker 2>that even happen? <v Speaker 1>That is bizarre. Also, this is here early October of <v Speaker 1>Phil Zacho and of the month. <v Speaker 2>You know, kind of scout the area. See if we <v Speaker 2>get that super Bowl of all the leagues put together. <v Speaker 1>I got this idea. <v Speaker 2>Let's see what happened. I got the idea. I've been <v Speaker 2>going on in my head, you know for about twenty <v Speaker 2>forty eighty years, I think. <v Speaker 1>Twenty forty eighty years tremendous. <v Speaker 2>They maybe do a super Bowl of all the sports, <v Speaker 2>of all the leagues, get them all together, see what <v Speaker 2>the best one is? <v Speaker 1>Super Bowl of all the sports. But we're gonna have <v Speaker 1>baseball players and. <v Speaker 2>Soccer players, yep, have all the different leagues of sports, <v Speaker 2>sporting leagues. <v Speaker 1>I have an idea of the super Bowl of Sports, <v Speaker 1>where everybody competes in a soccer match, even if you <v Speaker 1>play pro basketball or golf. <v Speaker 2>Call the super Bowl Sports were we're representative of every <v Speaker 2>sport in the entire you know, an entire world comes <v Speaker 2>in and they fight out in a battle royal. <v Speaker 1>It doesn't even get permission from the NFL. Is that <v Speaker 1>the super Bowl of sports? It's like, are you really <v Speaker 1>going to go to market with Yes, that's what we're <v Speaker 1>gonna call it. <v Speaker 2>Where's felling it? <v Speaker 1>S s U p E R R B O w <v Speaker 1>l L the super Bowl of sports? <v Speaker 2>Superbol brother? <v Speaker 4>What? <v Speaker 1>Superble brother? <v Speaker 7>What? <v Speaker 1>That's an issue? That's a fucking concern? Which ways up? <v Speaker 1>Hide the ball? <v Speaker 2>Whoa? Whoa dude? <v Speaker 4>Whoa? <v Speaker 3>Like? <v Speaker 2>The ramifications are vast vern ghizzle? What's going on with <v Speaker 2>the garden? <v Speaker 1>Vern ghizzle? His neck looks like a gizzle, doesn't it. <v Speaker 5>Yo. <v Speaker 2>Vern Ghizzle's like, Terry, I really wish you wouldn't talk <v Speaker 2>to me that way. <v Speaker 1>I really wish you wouldn't dressed me that way. <v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think I take a little offense to that way. <v Speaker 2>You're free, is it there? What do you mean? <v Speaker 1>Tremendous vern spicture's face right now, like he was like, fucking. <v Speaker 2>Smile yeah, oh god, he smiles. <v Speaker 4>Uh. <v Speaker 2>Hello, Michael, Hello, Frankel. <v Speaker 1>Such an idiot, such a hello. <v Speaker 2>Newman calls him Frankel, he calls him. That's his idea <v Speaker 2>of a fucking joke, calling him because he calls him <v Speaker 2>by his proper name, Michael, right, he calls he calls <v Speaker 2>Frank Bass Frankel. <v Speaker 1>Ah. <v Speaker 2>I always think of myself, actually, you know, my my <v Speaker 2>contribution to the to the screenplay. <v Speaker 1>Well you say that, but guess who pinned Johnny Rods <v Speaker 1>on the same card where Ken peterra first wrestled Bruno <v Speaker 1>and January seventy seven, Greg gun ya oh, and also <v Speaker 1>on that show What Who, making their Madison Square Garden debuts. <v Speaker 1>According to the Kenyan book, one Howard Finkel What Who <v Speaker 1>the book reads, debut as a ring announcer in nineteen <v Speaker 1>seventy six made his first appearance as a ring announcer <v Speaker 1>in the Garden on this show, replacing Friendly Bob Freed. <v Speaker 1>So that guy in the mustard yellow suit was probably <v Speaker 1>Friendly Bob Freed. You might add him to the death <v Speaker 1>toll as a matter of fact. <v Speaker 2>Yeah, I imagine it's got to be there. <v Speaker 1>And finally it says Ken Peterra and Pat Patterson were <v Speaker 1>making their Garden debuts on this card, while Bruis of Brodie, <v Speaker 1>as had happened, was appearing there for the final time. <v Speaker 2>So the first that's insane. <v Speaker 1>There's a lot going on, a lot of cross currents <v Speaker 1>there in this matchup. As we go to Bruno versus <v Speaker 1>Ken Peterra from seventy seven, Bruno is cranking the neck <v Speaker 1>with Terra's knee on the mat in the early going, <v Speaker 1>stomping the hell out of him as Bernos and Martino, <v Speaker 1>and he mocks the bicep pose even oh yeah here. <v Speaker 2>Calling that not just writ where are your muscles now? <v Speaker 2>That's just what he was saying, where are your muscles now? <v Speaker 2>Ken Peterra's yeah. <v Speaker 1>That's what I'm hearing. Yeah, Petera. His hair is on <v Speaker 1>a different level. It's flowing. <v Speaker 2>It's oh my god. You know these guys and their <v Speaker 2>fucking hair main, right, but it's like it's not even <v Speaker 2>that it's long hair. It's like it's just bushy, big, <v Speaker 2>fucking like full hair. <v Speaker 1>That's what it is, said Martino, going off with the <v Speaker 1>jabs and peppering shots, and he puts Ken Peterra on <v Speaker 1>his seat and he's dazed and confused sitting there to <v Speaker 1>say the least, Ken Peterra, and Vince calls a pretty <v Speaker 1>tough ombre, throws some kicks. <v Speaker 2>And that's exactly what he is. He's a tough ombre. <v Speaker 1>Soon he has Burtis and Maritino on his back and <v Speaker 1>shouts get up boy to the crowd. Yeah, Vince says, <v Speaker 1>these two have had a feud going in the garden <v Speaker 1>for quite some time. So this is the Texas Death Match, then, yeah, yeah, <v Speaker 1>the way he says. <v Speaker 2>It's got to be it. Although I don't think it's <v Speaker 2>even that violent though, which is kind of funny. <v Speaker 1>It really isn't, And you would think if it was <v Speaker 1>Texas Death that Vince would say it at least once <v Speaker 1>on commentary. He doesn't corner to corner whip and Berti <v Speaker 1>Simertino hits and claps is holding his back, so san <v Speaker 1>Martino making in roads working on the back of Bruno. <v Speaker 1>He lifts and slams him and drops an elbow and <v Speaker 1>this is the second one, but then catches him with <v Speaker 1>the third curiously enough. Usually when you miss the second elbow, <v Speaker 1>you don't come with a third, But right Bertie Stanto <v Speaker 1>stands up with the headlock push off. They collide and <v Speaker 1>San Matino spills to the apron and does the arm <v Speaker 1>tied up in the rope thing, just like he did <v Speaker 1>the leg tied up in the rope thing against Van <v Speaker 1>Rashki for a second, but he gets free this time, <v Speaker 1>but Ken Peterira uses that moment to pounce on him, <v Speaker 1>raining down punches, but he misses and cracks a bone <v Speaker 1>in his hand that perhaps they suggests Peterra, I think <v Speaker 1>hit the post with his hand or something, okay, and <v Speaker 1>then Brunos Smertino rams Kevin Ken Peterra's head into the canvas. <v Speaker 1>Still waiting for this wrestling that Sammartino was referencing this <v Speaker 1>technical right. <v Speaker 2>No, where's this technical technicality stit that's been going on? <v Speaker 1>You might he must have thought this was tape of <v Speaker 1>a different PATA match, maybe a lap. <v Speaker 7>Tan Wrestling podcast as the wrestling podcast that knows the <v Speaker 7>boys need their candy. It's the Lapsed Fan. He's the <v Speaker 7>Lapsed Fan Wrestling Podcast with Jack and Carno and JP Soro. <v Speaker 1>So Sanmartino with a knee and a whip and a <v Speaker 1>nice lift and turns and slams him cover for two. <v Speaker 1>Backup Sanmartino with a right hand stagger's Ken Peterra and <v Speaker 1>another and then he lifts him up and hits the <v Speaker 1>atomic drop, sending Ken Petera onto the apron. Where how <v Speaker 1>did that move get that name? The atomic Drop? Yes, <v Speaker 1>I don't know, No one knows. You know, move names <v Speaker 1>come from. <v Speaker 2>Because it's just that atomic drop seems like it should <v Speaker 2>be a much more devastating move than what it is. <v Speaker 2>Like I need of the ass does not atomic drop? <v Speaker 2>You know feel I don't feel that. <v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, you're right. <v Speaker 2>I mean I've never felt that. <v Speaker 1>Well you just remember the Backland used it as a <v Speaker 1>finisher for years as the top dog in the garden. <v Speaker 2>I know, I just I mean, I guess. I mean <v Speaker 2>it's a weird move, like what what do you so? <v Speaker 2>You give a guy a need of the ass and <v Speaker 2>that's gonna end it? <v Speaker 1>For him sends a shock of paralyzing pain. I guess <v Speaker 1>toxics bone. And I never understood why the inverted thing <v Speaker 1>is called the Manhattan Drop in some places. I don't <v Speaker 1>get that one. <v Speaker 2>Yep, maybe the Manhattan Project. So there is that what <v Speaker 2>it is? <v Speaker 3>I don't know. <v Speaker 2>It's not a bad guess, but I just again, it <v Speaker 2>doesn't feel like to me, I'd rather almost a power <v Speaker 2>bomb be called the atomic drop like that, to me <v Speaker 2>is a much more atomic type mover maneuver. Whereas you know, <v Speaker 2>lifting a guy up and dropping him on your dropping <v Speaker 2>asked on your knee does not you know, I don't know. <v Speaker 2>To me, it doesn't. It doesn't really match the name <v Speaker 2>of the move. And when a move is I've always <v Speaker 2>thought that after a wrestler you can kind of trace <v Speaker 2>it back, but when it's not, it's really hard to <v Speaker 2>say who came up with the first I mean, you <v Speaker 2>know me, I've I've asked every old timer I've ever <v Speaker 2>talked to if they know why it's called the Boston crab. <v Speaker 2>That's just been on my personal thing, and nobody knows. <v Speaker 2>Nobody has a clue. So because there's no crabs in Boston, <v Speaker 2>well there's that too, like, why is it a Boston one. <v Speaker 2>It doesn't make any sense. The Baltimore crab, yes, correct, <v Speaker 2>or the Boston lobster, the Boston clam chowder, well, the <v Speaker 2>Boston clam chowder as a hold, no, it's not. <v Speaker 1>Imagine the Boston clam chowder. He applies the Boston clam chowder. <v Speaker 1>It must have felt that way when they called it <v Speaker 1>a crab the first time. <v Speaker 2>Probably, like think of the Boston clams, like it's like <v Speaker 2>putting your mouth on a guy's belly and just blowing <v Speaker 2>on it. <v Speaker 1>Jeez, well that's the case. What's the difference between the <v Speaker 1>Boston crab and the Alaskan King crab or the imitation <v Speaker 1>Crab's exactly it. <v Speaker 2>That's a single leg crabtation crab. <v Speaker 1>That's a that's a work pro wrestling crab is right. <v Speaker 1>So oh god, Artina with a knee and a whip <v Speaker 1>and a nice lift and turn slam cover gets two <v Speaker 1>back up, Simartinio with a right staggered Speterira and another <v Speaker 1>and then again. The atomic drop sends Petara stumbling onto <v Speaker 1>the apron, where he clutches the ropes. The Sanmartino keeps <v Speaker 1>stomping on him. Vinceys mister Petra not faring too well <v Speaker 1>here at all at the moment, boots to the face <v Speaker 1>and those jumping kicks that Sammartino used to do, he said, <v Speaker 1>a stomping He would just jump up and kick you <v Speaker 1>several of them. <v Speaker 2>So yeah, so he fucking did, Like yeah, I mean, honestly, <v Speaker 2>I feel like he's gonna blow his knee doing that. <v Speaker 1>Yeah, seriously. And then Petera takes kind of a timber <v Speaker 1>bump and Vince cracks a laugh at that one. At <v Speaker 1>the display being put on here by Ken Peterra, Smartino <v Speaker 1>whips Petaria in and back drops him to ooze and <v Speaker 1>ohs and covers him for two. PoTA rolls to the apron. <v Speaker 1>The referee gets between checking in laying in the count, <v Speaker 1>and then Sanmartino with a right and Patera drops and <v Speaker 1>low blows Bruno Samartino right in front of the referee. <v Speaker 2>And Vince feels the need to defend him. Listen to this. <v Speaker 5>Apparently cull the abdominal and as effort there the ricks <v Speaker 5>the abdominos. Potero is just. <v Speaker 1>Out on, but it cannot be considered response before his <v Speaker 1>actions here. Why I think he said that because there <v Speaker 1>was no excuse for the referee not just qualifying him <v Speaker 1>because he did it right in front of him. Okay, <v Speaker 1>So he's trying to give the ref and out as <v Speaker 1>to why he. <v Speaker 2>Would have called for the bell. It just it just <v Speaker 2>it's a bad call to me. Agreed, I wouldn't I <v Speaker 2>wouldn't do that. I would have been more like, why <v Speaker 2>did the referee see that? <v Speaker 6>Yeah? <v Speaker 1>Lean into it right? Yeah. Vince was never one to <v Speaker 1>criticize the refs, you know, he was never do He <v Speaker 1>never did the gorilla thing of like, yep, oh, this <v Speaker 1>guy that the refinedes have his eyes checked kind of thing. <v Speaker 1>So Petera rises, comes to the middle rope and rains <v Speaker 1>down at stomp on Sammartino and man, did those ropes <v Speaker 1>get wavy when you jumped off them? No support at all? None, <v Speaker 1>might as well be springing off a jump rope. And <v Speaker 1>then Patia's choke sin Maritino on the canvas whip to <v Speaker 1>the corner. Sanmartino hits hard and into a big body <v Speaker 1>slam with a delay by Ken Peterra and he lets <v Speaker 1>out a big woo rook flair style and does a <v Speaker 1>bicep pose and then Potero brings a knee down twice <v Speaker 1>on San Martino's face. That gets a two count. San <v Speaker 1>Martino with a big kickout, though, sending Ken Peterra all <v Speaker 1>the way across the ring, showing that he's still very <v Speaker 1>much in a position of strength. Ptera swings from his <v Speaker 1>knees and misses, and Bruno Semartino starts hitting him. They <v Speaker 1>exchange now. <v Speaker 2>Nope, nope, nope, not a fan. Still not a fan <v Speaker 2>even then, not a fan of the fucking trading blows <v Speaker 2>on the knees and taking fucking yess hours in between <v Speaker 2>each fucking hit. Right, Oh, not a fan. Not a fan. <v Speaker 1>It's so much of that in the rumble this year <v Speaker 1>they had at the yeat Yeah between Jimmy Use, Jay <v Speaker 1>Usso and La Knight. They had to get Sena doing <v Speaker 1>his yeah. Everyone had the big exchange spot backup. Sanmartino <v Speaker 1>hauling off, goes off in the corner, now on Petera <v Speaker 1>corner to corner, Irish whip and Ken Petera collapses before <v Speaker 1>Sanmatino can even follow up on him. You can see <v Speaker 1>Fink now at ringside. So I noted that before I <v Speaker 1>realize this is his MSG debut, so it's actually yeah, <v Speaker 1>Well he debuted Msgry that year, not on this card, <v Speaker 1>but I hadn't seen him in the prior Bruno matches, <v Speaker 1>so that I thought that was notable. Kenn Petera then <v Speaker 1>slaps on a full nelson from the ring apron on <v Speaker 1>Bruno Sammartino, who walks him over into the top rope. <v Speaker 1>Sammartino low bridges kind of ducks his head between the <v Speaker 1>top and middle Buckle's supposed to send Petera face first <v Speaker 1>into the top and break the full nelson, but Ken <v Speaker 1>Peterira kind of loses hold of Sammartino as he ducks down, <v Speaker 1>so suddenly you have just the separation between the two <v Speaker 1>and Petera standing awkwardly a few inches from the camp <v Speaker 1>from the corner. But then he regrabs the full nelson <v Speaker 1>and that allows Sammartino to kick off the buckles. Does <v Speaker 1>the Brett Hart How far backack is this spot? Go boss? <v Speaker 2>He doesn't roll over completely like Brett would do, but <v Speaker 2>you know, he just kind of lays on him, but <v Speaker 2>he still does the fucking kickoff. <v Speaker 1>I was blown away by it, absolutely massive. One two <v Speaker 1>and three. Ken Peterra tries kicking out when he realizes <v Speaker 1>or thinks he won anyway, raises his hand, but now <v Speaker 1>the referee can deed confirms by raising Bruno Simartino's hand <v Speaker 1>that he was on top in that exchange. After Vince <v Speaker 1>McMahon even questions on commentary, who won the match, Berno <v Speaker 1>Simartino kicking off the corner buckling and using the full <v Speaker 1>Nelson his advantage of pinning Ken Petera. Here in the <v Speaker 1>Texas Death Match in Madison Square Garden, the sign says <v Speaker 1>Italian Stallion Bruno number one, and the other sign says <v Speaker 1>Italian sausage A dollar forty nine. <v Speaker 2>Please, I'll have three. <v Speaker 1>The mic drops from the ceiling and Fink delivers the <v Speaker 1>announcement that in twelve minutes and thirteen seconds you're winner. <v Speaker 1>Bruno Sammartino onto Bruno versus Kowalski. <v Speaker 2>Here we go, and here's what he has to say <v Speaker 2>about it, Jane. <v Speaker 4>He talked to me the meeting of stamina. This was <v Speaker 4>one of the greatest conditioned wrestler I've had to face <v Speaker 4>in my life. He had such great stamina that up <v Speaker 4>to this point I had been beating my opponents mostly <v Speaker 4>would strength and my wrestling skills. In meeting Kowalski, I <v Speaker 4>wrestled him one time for one hour, thirty minutes, and <v Speaker 4>he was absolutely unbelievable. I started training, changing my training <v Speaker 4>math as after my first bunch of Kowalski, who I <v Speaker 4>combined strength training and stamina, which I found out that <v Speaker 4>something that benefited me for the rest of my wrestling career. <v Speaker 3>Would you have to say Bruno perhaps one of the <v Speaker 3>toughest opponents you ever had. <v Speaker 4>No question about it. I thought it many times. I <v Speaker 4>had many one hour matches, some of them lessed longer <v Speaker 4>an hour because usually were no time limits. And again <v Speaker 4>I repeat it, probably was the toughest man I've ever. <v Speaker 2>Faced, toughest many ever faced. <v Speaker 1>Wow, that's heavy praise there. Well, he was his life, <v Speaker 1>his career long foil in some ways. Yeah, these two <v Speaker 1>never stopped trying to kill each other. What do you <v Speaker 1>having a date on this one? <v Speaker 2>I have April twenty ninth, nineteen seventy four at Madison <v Speaker 2>Square Guard. <v Speaker 1>Yeah, closed circuit April twenty nine, seventy four, Bruno No <v Speaker 1>contest was killer Kowalski twenty four minutes and fifteen seconds. <v Speaker 1>And then you had Andre in Chief, Jay Strongbow over <v Speaker 1>Don Leo, Jonathan and Otto von Heller in the co feature. <v Speaker 1>They came back with it on May twenty at nineteen <v Speaker 1>seventy four before seventeen thousand and one to oh three, <v Speaker 1>not a great crowd. Bruno beating Killer Kowalski in the <v Speaker 1>Texas Death Match. That's how you wrapped up the Bruno <v Speaker 1>feuds back then, Yeah, right exactly, and he moved from there. <v Speaker 1>Did Bruno to wrestling well the next time in June <v Speaker 1>with Chief j Strongbow against Fred Lassie Nikolai Volkoff in <v Speaker 1>a tag match, and then you have okay, Yeah, according <v Speaker 1>to Kenyan, Strongbows in that main event because he approached <v Speaker 1>Bruno and told him he would like to be in <v Speaker 1>just one main event in the Garden, just to to <v Speaker 1>let his eighty five year old father know he had <v Speaker 1>arrived in the wrestling business. Okay, and then he wrestles Bruno. <v Speaker 1>Si Martino goes on to wrestle John Tolos the Future <v Speaker 1>the Coach July in August, the headline with Jimmy and <v Speaker 1>Johnny Valiant against Strongbow and Sam Martino and Andre Versus Kowalski. <v Speaker 1>That's something to see. I don't think I've ever seen <v Speaker 1>Andre Versus Kowalski before. <v Speaker 2>I uh I feel like I have. Actually, yeah, I <v Speaker 2>feel like I have. I feel like I'm gonna watch <v Speaker 2>it with my mom. Would be because she was a <v Speaker 2>Kowalski fan. <v Speaker 1>Sure was Bobby Duncan as well, one of Bruno's opponents <v Speaker 1>in seventy four, as well as uh yeah, the last <v Speaker 1>show in December, So here we go. Kowalski Versus Bruno <v Speaker 1>nineteen seventy four. Sammartino is stomping his leg all around <v Speaker 1>the ring and falls down into a crucifix hold by <v Speaker 1>killer Kowalski. He takes over on the mat. Kowalski rolls <v Speaker 1>him up into a pinning predicament, but Simartino's legs end <v Speaker 1>up all of them on the ropes, getting him free. <v Speaker 2>Kowalski looks like a teenager who just woke up after <v Speaker 2>going to bed at two am. <v Speaker 1>Someone who was up eating talkies and playing video games. <v Speaker 2>On that exactly. And he's fucking woke up, and he's <v Speaker 2>like shirtless, wearing you know, pajama pants. That's what like. <v Speaker 2>Kowalski's like, he just always looks like he's just got <v Speaker 2>out of bed. <v Speaker 1>Absolutely he does with his purple pants with a creepy <v Speaker 1>lightning bolt on them. <v Speaker 2>So fucking biz. <v Speaker 1>Now, I've looked this up before it and I probably <v Speaker 1>talked about it. There's some creepy religion behind that lightning <v Speaker 1>bolt and most purple pants. I forget what it is <v Speaker 1>that he was part of Burt Simotaino when black trunks <v Speaker 1>and black boots son that'll never get over never. I <v Speaker 1>wonder what went into Bruno's choice of what colored trunks <v Speaker 1>to wear. We've seen green, we've seen blue. <v Speaker 2>I bet nothing at all. So I bet I bet <v Speaker 2>he just went to fucking I don't know athletics store <v Speaker 2>and bought like a set of ten speedo's and that <v Speaker 2>was it. <v Speaker 1>It'll Buckle didn't care red here for some reason, so <v Speaker 1>probably no choice there either. Yeah, vinces on the call, <v Speaker 1>that's uh Kilikwalski stomping the head referee with a strong <v Speaker 1>yawk accent. I don't, I don't want to want you anymore. <v Speaker 1>You can hear him say, that's a pretty much. <v Speaker 2>Come on killer, that's a fucking piece. <v Speaker 1>Kwal stomps the chest like a cigarette he's putting out. <v Speaker 1>He scales the ropes and the crowd gets very yantsy <v Speaker 1>because you know, Kowalski once took a man's ear off <v Speaker 1>with a middle rope knee drop, and Sanmartino gets up <v Speaker 1>and tosses him down off the canvas with a grilla <v Speaker 1>press to a big pop and then a body slam <v Speaker 1>in the middle gets too for Sammartino. Sementino then grabs <v Speaker 1>the arm from behind. Kowalski gets to the ropes knees <v Speaker 1>from Sanmartino on the mat, slugging away at killer Kowalski, <v Speaker 1>who comes with shots to the gut from his knees <v Speaker 1>until Bruno Sammartino falls, and then Kowalski puts the iron <v Speaker 1>claw onto the abdominal muscles of a claw. <v Speaker 2>Kowalski applies a claw and Bruno's ribs, and Big Show <v Speaker 2>also applies a claw hold on ribs. <v Speaker 1>Yeah, you won't be able to pry him out of <v Speaker 1>his hand. Vince calls this that iron claw of. <v Speaker 2>His iron claw. So now not not an ab claw <v Speaker 2>or a brain claw here, So what do we got <v Speaker 2>to do? A Big Show's looking for, right, A lobster claw, <v Speaker 2>a bear of claw, bear claw of course, yes, kick <v Speaker 2>on one fish gonna be fucking carbs. Come on, it's <v Speaker 2>either carbs or you know, just meat. That's what it is. <v Speaker 2>Why they call him the Big Slow. <v Speaker 1>He's not going fast with those scombinations. <v Speaker 2>There's never, never been, never been a man in the <v Speaker 2>world who loves barbecue more than Paul White because it's <v Speaker 2>his two favorite things, eating and being slow Afterwards. Loen's <v Speaker 2>Slow Low and slow Big Slow called the Big Slow. <v Speaker 2>I think Rock called them that one. It's always stuck. <v Speaker 2>It's always stuck for me. <v Speaker 1>I mean, I would give you the credit because you know, <v Speaker 1>you came up with things like it, ring of honorable mention? <v Speaker 1>How funny is that? And should sucking not anymore? And <v Speaker 1>it's so funny? Ring of honorable mention is Oh god, <v Speaker 1>she refused stop ship flicks. You call it that flix <v Speaker 1>ship flicks? <v Speaker 2>I mean ring mention, like just totally. It destroys any credibility, <v Speaker 2>you know, Like if I call that to somebody's face, <v Speaker 2>if I said to somebody like, yep, you know you <v Speaker 2>didn't didn't Tony get Tony kanbota right, if I said, oh, <v Speaker 2>did you went and bought fucking ring of honorable mention? <v Speaker 1>Which qualifies for that now? <v Speaker 2>Right exactly? <v Speaker 1>So uh britis and potato Popshi from his back with <v Speaker 1>two fists, but Kwalski bites the head and looks like <v Speaker 1>they were making out for a moment on the canvass. <v Speaker 1>Kowalski comes off the middle of the stomp to the <v Speaker 1>gut and goes back to the club or does Sermartino <v Speaker 1>kicking his hand away as much as he can. Sanmartino <v Speaker 1>dives on a double a takedown, lifts and dumps Kowalski <v Speaker 1>almost all the way over the rose, but Kowalski is <v Speaker 1>hanging on the top rope, so Sanmartino stomps him a <v Speaker 1>bit and then runs Kowalski into the iron post from <v Speaker 1>the ring. Apron is Kowalski doing the deed boss indeed <v Speaker 1>back into the corner. Sanmartino's on him. Kowalski grabs him <v Speaker 1>by the neck. <v Speaker 2>We wait, what's up with the guy? The guy in <v Speaker 2>a track suit sitting right next to the ring post. Huh, <v Speaker 2>Like he doesn't look I mean, he doesn't look an official. <v Speaker 1>I don't know. I didn't notice he looks. <v Speaker 2>So there's a guy on the hard camera side on <v Speaker 2>the on the camera on the camera right side by <v Speaker 2>the upper ring post. It's a guy in a tracksuit <v Speaker 2>sitting in a in a folding chair crossed with his <v Speaker 2>legs crossed terrestic, like just and honestly, he looks like <v Speaker 2>a guy who went to the show and is like <v Speaker 2>because there's again, you know, there's no guardrails, right, and <v Speaker 2>there's no real bear between fans in the ring, and <v Speaker 2>so it kind of looks like he's a guys like, <v Speaker 2>I don't know why people aren't just sitting over here. <v Speaker 2>You can see way better over here. It's a good deal. <v Speaker 2>Fucking that, no one, Hey, just move my chair over here. <v Speaker 2>Look at that right next to the fucking ring. <v Speaker 1>That was something about the garden under Vince Senior man, <v Speaker 1>there were so many like Rando VIPs that seem to <v Speaker 1>have free rain at ringside. Yeah, there's all these people <v Speaker 1>that just like were cramming the floor that had no <v Speaker 1>job to do. But they weren't fans either, but they <v Speaker 1>were all around the ring. You can see him everywhere. <v Speaker 1>So back in to the corner, san Maartino onon Kowalski, <v Speaker 1>who grabs him by the neck and throws a slow <v Speaker 1>punching kick, As Vince says, both beginning to look tired <v Speaker 1>here as Kowalski comes with a dropkick to the back <v Speaker 1>that sends Bruno. Sammartino threw the ropes into the laps <v Speaker 1>of the press at ringside. <v Speaker 2>It's a great. <v Speaker 1>Dropkick from Kowalski and he rolls back in Kowalski's days <v Speaker 1>on him lifting a slam by Kowalski for two. Kowalski <v Speaker 1>slugs him twice and Bruno Simartino spills out of the ring. <v Speaker 1>There's an old lady over there a point. Oh she <v Speaker 1>goes not she's classic, pointing and gesturing at killer Kowalski <v Speaker 1>from the floor. Everyone's aunt right there or grandmother yep. <v Speaker 1>As Sammartino tries to climb the steps and Kowalski with <v Speaker 1>the uh well, Kowalski with the carrot top haircut for <v Speaker 1>some reason, grabs Bruno Sammartino and bites him and then <v Speaker 1>lays in slapping gnaws in his head. <v Speaker 2>And then right when that happens, we see a hot <v Speaker 2>dog vendor asking if the crowd wants a non. <v Speaker 1>A hot dog, slapping punches to the forehead and biting. <v Speaker 1>Sanmartino ref does nothing, Kwalski laying some more, and I think, yes, indeed, <v Speaker 1>this is the pomp. This is the moment where you <v Speaker 1>can see him pinch the razor. Oh really, you can <v Speaker 1>see him pinching the or. Bruno was not great at <v Speaker 1>hiding the razor man at all. <v Speaker 2>I just can't believe Bruno ran the razor. That's something. <v Speaker 2>I mean, I'm sure we've seen it before, but it <v Speaker 2>just took me to me by surprise. <v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's rather dramatic to see. And yeah, you can <v Speaker 1>really see the tip of the blade for a sec <v Speaker 1>if you watch close on this tape, you can see <v Speaker 1>like that coloration in his hand. And he keeps going <v Speaker 1>to town man with the blade and then Samu the <v Speaker 1>Kwalski's biting to you know, give a reason for the <v Speaker 1>blood to be drawn, and Semartino now staggering, barely standing, <v Speaker 1>and uh Kwalski's punching him into oblivion. A side shot <v Speaker 1>shows the blood now on San Martino's head. Is Vince <v Speaker 1>questions how much one man can take Sammartino big time <v Speaker 1>communication going on with Kawalski about something rights and lefts. <v Speaker 1>But Sammartino's time time standing up to the blows and <v Speaker 1>they're losing their ship that he's standing there and not <v Speaker 1>going down. <v Speaker 2>We're gonna listen to it again. <v Speaker 5>Well, standing back away be fore Puny by Pulaski kin <v Speaker 5>up home on their worry above. Man, am if you <v Speaker 5>can corring up that bunny for I put off Martell. <v Speaker 2>I just never You'll never hear that ever again. Wrestling <v Speaker 2>will never be like that ever again. <v Speaker 1>I started typing in all caps. I wrote O MG <v Speaker 1>O MG in my notes. Yep, it's amazing. Yeah, it's <v Speaker 1>the greatest fucking sound. Reound it reound it to whip <v Speaker 1>to the corner Sternham First, Bruno lifts his hands up <v Speaker 1>and looks at the ceiling like I'm gonna do this. <v Speaker 1>Their rabbit at their rabbit on the garden. <v Speaker 2>Fuck it, they're going crazy. It's just fucking. <v Speaker 1>Sammartino goes off it, punches and kicks and they're slugging <v Speaker 1>it out at its electric while back to biting to <v Speaker 1>cut off the momentum, and the ref gets in between. <v Speaker 1>And when he does that, the bell sounds because they're <v Speaker 1>just you know, swinging on the ref swinging on each other. <v Speaker 1>It's just gotten totally out of hand. The bell sounds repeatedly, <v Speaker 1>the referee trying to break it up, Arnold Scullen and <v Speaker 1>the ring trying to break it up as well. Berta <v Speaker 1>Si Maritino goes for the throat and Pedro hits the <v Speaker 1>ring as well as the sword and other baby faces <v Speaker 1>to try to keep the peace, tying up killer Kowalski, <v Speaker 1>separating the two. Kowalski trying to make his way over <v Speaker 1>and Berta. Simmartino gets free and gets his hands on <v Speaker 1>his neck for a second, but they hustle Kowalski out <v Speaker 1>of the ring and he walks in the apron looking <v Speaker 1>after him. Berno has his hand raised and Vince says, <v Speaker 1>although he's cut and cuts severely, Bruno still wants to wrestle. <v Speaker 2>Of course he does. <v Speaker 1>Simmartino with that waddle around the ring with his bloody <v Speaker 1>head being consoled by other baby faces. The announcement is <v Speaker 1>in twenty four minutes and fifteen seconds. The decision is <v Speaker 1>a draw. <v Speaker 4>Crowd is not like that. <v Speaker 1>I don't think they expected it to be an even call, <v Speaker 1>maybe a double DQ. It is a draw and funny, <v Speaker 1>funny graphic. All it was just yellow letters and it <v Speaker 1>flashes Bruno winter or winter or draw draw flashing. <v Speaker 2>Draw draw draw I know like which you know back <v Speaker 2>then you had someone who was like pressing it on <v Speaker 2>and off too, like right thensarily have a flash like <v Speaker 2>options like someone's pushing right, pushing, turning it on and <v Speaker 2>turns keep pushing, keep pushing. <v Speaker 1>It's amazing, what a job to have, so arnold school <v Speaker 1>and raises uh San Martino's hand with a strap in <v Speaker 1>his hand, and that is Pete Bruno right there, seventy four. Yeah, <v Speaker 1>that is just the height of his powers. He's not <v Speaker 1>fading yet. And we go back to the studio here <v Speaker 1>on this Colisseum home video. <v Speaker 2>Yeah, and we got some We got a Q and <v Speaker 2>A here with Bruno. <v Speaker 3>While Bruno sad. Martino coming out of one of your <v Speaker 3>perhaps classic matches, one of the greatest ever you worked, <v Speaker 3>of course on top in Medisine Square Garden two hundred <v Speaker 3>and eleven times. I'll go on record as saying, perhaps <v Speaker 3>the greatest professional wrestler to ever put on a pair <v Speaker 3>of tights at a pair of boots. <v Speaker 2>What I know. <v Speaker 1>That's a huge concern. This tape was not welcomed run <v Speaker 1>to the layahouse, not at all. <v Speaker 3>Based on track record alone. Some questions Bruno I like <v Speaker 3>to fire at you. Some of them you probably don't <v Speaker 3>want to touch. Others you're going to be happy to answer. <v Speaker 2>He doesn't as to ask any fucking question that doesn't <v Speaker 2>seems offensive. At all close, Yeah, sir. <v Speaker 3>First of all, on the length of your career, it's <v Speaker 3>on precedented the number of years that you have really <v Speaker 3>really competed in this great sport. <v Speaker 4>Twenty two years NonStop, Gene, and thirteen of those years <v Speaker 4>were this world champion. <v Speaker 2>All right, if we can go back, see he's a <v Speaker 2>thirteen and eleven, right, thirteen. <v Speaker 3>A little history perhaps the early years in professional wrestling, <v Speaker 3>how it all started for Bruno San Martino, Well, Gene. <v Speaker 4>When I was very young, I started Greco Roman wrestling <v Speaker 4>and Italy. I also played a little bit of soccer. <v Speaker 4>But then the War when I was very young came <v Speaker 4>about and we were driven into those mountains in the <v Speaker 4>Brutes Italy, and so that when we came over here, <v Speaker 4>I was rather thin and rather weak. So in order <v Speaker 4>to build myself up, I took up weight training. But <v Speaker 4>wrestling was always my first love, and the reason why <v Speaker 4>I got into weights was really to help develop my <v Speaker 4>body and get some strength. But I got so into <v Speaker 4>weight training that I combined the boat. I was doing <v Speaker 4>amateur wrestling and I was on Olympic lifting and powerlifting. <v Speaker 3>You used you also set some records as a weightlifter, <v Speaker 3>did you not well, yes. <v Speaker 4>In nineteen fifty nine, I did five hundred and sixty <v Speaker 4>five pounds in the bench press, which was a world record. <v Speaker 4>I did seven hundred and fifteen pounds in a squad <v Speaker 4>which at that time was a record, and I did <v Speaker 4>seven hundred pound deadlift. So I did have some some <v Speaker 4>pretty good records. But again, everything I did waits gene. <v Speaker 4>I loved it, but it was all for wrestling, all <v Speaker 4>to prepare me for wrestling. <v Speaker 3>All right, A tremendously scientific match that I personally considered <v Speaker 3>one of the greatest ever. <v Speaker 2>So was he saying that that that that that he <v Speaker 2>just weightlifted to wrestle like he was going to wrestle <v Speaker 2>the whole So, okay, doesn't seem that like he knew <v Speaker 2>he's going to wrestle from when he was like the <v Speaker 2>moment he got to America. <v Speaker 1>He's pretty much. Yeah, I don't know why he like <v Speaker 1>that was. <v Speaker 2>His fucking goal to wrestle, like even though fucking was <v Speaker 2>the time. <v Speaker 1>I said he did a greco back in Italy. But <v Speaker 1>I don't know if you knew what pro wrestling. <v Speaker 3>Was, Yeah, I mean Bruno Sam Martino versus Pedrol Morales. <v Speaker 3>Your thoughts on that one? <v Speaker 4>The conditions were horrible. We wrestled in Shea Stadium and <v Speaker 4>it was a very windy day. It was the last <v Speaker 4>day of September. It had rained for two straight days <v Speaker 4>and the rain continued still. We had a tremendous crowd. <v Speaker 4>But the match was absolutely great. We wrestled for an <v Speaker 4>hour and believe seventeen on an hour eighteen minutes, and <v Speaker 4>it was a truly not because I was involved in it, <v Speaker 4>but I've been around a long time. I see a <v Speaker 4>lot of great matches. This I felt was one of <v Speaker 4>the that was the greatest scientific match that I was <v Speaker 4>ever involved in my entire career. <v Speaker 3>All right, Bruno, I am very curious your philosophy on wrestling, <v Speaker 3>your philosophy on competition, and perhaps your philosophy on life. <v Speaker 4>Well, philosophy in wrestling. I've always believed that in wrestling <v Speaker 4>that one should put forties best efforts as far as <v Speaker 4>showing his skills, his wrestling skills, strength, stamina is know <v Speaker 4>how all these things has to be put forth one <v Speaker 4>hundred percent because for your own self respect, but also <v Speaker 4>for the fans that by their tickets and come and <v Speaker 4>see you, and come and see wrestling. So I believe <v Speaker 4>that's very very important. The other competition, competition, well, of course, <v Speaker 4>I myself in all the years, I wanted to compete <v Speaker 4>against the best because by competing against the best, you <v Speaker 4>yourself become the best you could possibly be. I think, <v Speaker 4>especially if you're known name and a top contender, this <v Speaker 4>is the way to show the fans that you deserve <v Speaker 4>to be where you're at. So it's extremely important to <v Speaker 4>me to be with the best competitors at all times. <v Speaker 3>And finally, I have tremendous, the utmost respect for this man. <v Speaker 2>He knows it, I know it. <v Speaker 3>Your philosophy on life life for Brunos San Martino on. <v Speaker 4>Ah, boy, that's a hard one. It's simple, It's really simple. <v Speaker 4>My philosophy of life is that I tried. I've had <v Speaker 4>good family, good parents. My philosophy is that don't go <v Speaker 4>out there as far as your general life to hurt anybody, <v Speaker 4>help whoever. You can be as decent the human being <v Speaker 4>as you can. Don't let success spoil you, because that's <v Speaker 4>the one tragedy of life. Some people to get some <v Speaker 4>success and this success changes in which to me, it's <v Speaker 4>a tragedy. <v Speaker 3>All right, Bruno, I may be throwing a curve at you, <v Speaker 3>but I like to have you juxta position. Compare my <v Speaker 3>will the wrestlers of today with the wrestlers of yesteryear. <v Speaker 4>Well, you know, Geene, other people have asked mess they <v Speaker 4>is big, Yes, three years they are today. Of course, <v Speaker 4>we had giants in those days. When you talk about <v Speaker 4>Don leio O, Jonathan six eight, three hundred and thirty pounds, <v Speaker 4>Kowalski sixty six sixty seven, two hundred and seventy eight pounds, <v Speaker 4>Big Bill Miller. I could go on and on. We <v Speaker 4>had many, many giants in those days. The one thing <v Speaker 4>that I liked about my era better than today is <v Speaker 4>that these were big men. They went in the ring, <v Speaker 4>they showed up. <v Speaker 1>You got to promote today, right, You can't yesterday wasn't. <v Speaker 1>I can't just glorify times before. <v Speaker 4>I was the boss, right, a lot of wrestling skills. <v Speaker 4>They were good wrestlers, good conditioned wrestlers. There was less screaming. <v Speaker 4>Today seems like everybody is screaming. As to all the <v Speaker 4>threats of what we threatened, of course we had. I <v Speaker 4>had a big confidence. I used to tell the audience <v Speaker 4>out there that I believed in myself and that I <v Speaker 4>thought I could do well against any opponents, but we <v Speaker 4>didn't talk so much about. <v Speaker 5>It. <v Speaker 1>Passes test or not. <v Speaker 4>Dude, I'm going to break his leg, I'm going to <v Speaker 4>break his snack, and there's an awful lot of that today. <v Speaker 4>Today's wrestlers are great conditioned athletes. I want that being <v Speaker 4>on because these guys are great, They're in great shape, <v Speaker 4>they moved, they but there's an awful lot of screaming. <v Speaker 4>There's so much treating. It's everything is hate, hate, hate, <v Speaker 4>and I'm sorry to see that because as wrestlers, we <v Speaker 4>are tough competitors. We go in that rink to prove <v Speaker 4>our superiority perhaps over the other guy. But let's go <v Speaker 4>and ring and do it, and let's do less screaming <v Speaker 4>that we seem to be doing today, which we didn't <v Speaker 4>do quite as much in my day. <v Speaker 3>All right, that is commentary, by the way, from Bruno <v Speaker 3>San Martino, very quickly wrestling versus announcing of what you're <v Speaker 3>doing a lot of right now. <v Speaker 4>Well, actually, Gene, you know, as a wrestler, I trained <v Speaker 4>all my life for so I felt very comfortable because <v Speaker 4>I had a lot of confidence in myself because of <v Speaker 4>my wrestling skills, my training that I've had as an announcer, <v Speaker 4>I take my head off to people like yourself, Vince <v Speaker 4>McMahon Monsoon is doing a good job at it. I <v Speaker 4>can't say to you that I honestly feels good about it. <v Speaker 4>Do I see myself as being very good at it <v Speaker 4>because it is not something that I had great training <v Speaker 4>and experience, and so therefore I don't feel quite as <v Speaker 4>comfortable as I did as a wrestler. <v Speaker 3>All right, Finally, Brunos San Martino at your age and <v Speaker 3>Martinez inspiration to me, and I know millions of fans <v Speaker 3>literally around the world. Is there any thought on the <v Speaker 3>back of your mind of once. <v Speaker 4>Again coming out of retirement, Geane, I don't need to <v Speaker 4>come out of retirement, certainly financially. I don't need to <v Speaker 4>wrestle anymore. I'm doing it to prove a point. I've <v Speaker 4>always heard this myth about when you're thirty five, thirty seven, <v Speaker 4>forty years old, you're finished. You're too old, you worshed up, <v Speaker 4>that's the end of it. I never believed in that. <v Speaker 4>I've always believed that if an individual truly dedicates himself <v Speaker 4>to a sport, even seasonal sports, don't take the time <v Speaker 4>when the sport dends to relax and enjoy and get <v Speaker 4>fat if you keep yourself in condition all year around <v Speaker 4>stair away from certain bad habits. I've always believed that <v Speaker 4>a person could go way way beyond what is that's <v Speaker 4>so called cut off line, as far as age, and <v Speaker 4>still be good at it. And I want to prove <v Speaker 4>that as a professional rest I want to prove that <v Speaker 4>at my age today, I can go in there against <v Speaker 4>guys half my age, and because of my lifestyle that <v Speaker 4>I can still beat any of them. <v Speaker 3>Indeed, is the living legend, the great one, Bruno San Martino, <v Speaker 3>And what an asset this man has been for the <v Speaker 3>king of sports, the greatest of all professional wrestling. Bruno, <v Speaker 3>I thank you very much. <v Speaker 4>I thank you, Jane. <v Speaker 2>My pleasure, terrific, tremendous, fucking crazy m class. Yeah, there's <v Speaker 2>a very choice jump cut too. During that thing where <v Speaker 2>Gene asks him many thought once again of coming out <v Speaker 2>of retirement and they jump cut. You can tell his <v Speaker 2>first answer, Yeah, it wasn't up up to far, and <v Speaker 2>it comes with you. I don't need to come out <v Speaker 2>of retirement, certainly financial Bruno. Bruno out of. <v Speaker 1>Madison Square Garden, October twenty first, nineteen eighty five. Yeah, <v Speaker 1>and Gene asks for a little bit of background on <v Speaker 1>this thing. <v Speaker 2>Do you have this? <v Speaker 4>Of course I never liked Piper, made no bones about it, Gene. <v Speaker 4>When I asked to make the pit, I really didn't care. <v Speaker 4>I wasn't too crazy about the idea, but I went <v Speaker 4>along anyway. What infuriated me most about Piper was not <v Speaker 4>only his tactics that I never appreciated in the rank, <v Speaker 4>but the net particular pit when he made derogatory much <v Speaker 4>about my nationality that I resented. I resented very very strongly. <v Speaker 4>And to this day I resent Piper, and hopefully I'll <v Speaker 4>have an opportunity to get him in that rink again <v Speaker 4>one of these days. <v Speaker 2>Yep. And what's that? <v Speaker 1>As he's doing that voice over, you can hear Mel Phillips, <v Speaker 1>of all things, say something of the microphone. When Piper <v Speaker 1>points at him, Bruno says, he'll it's actually Mel Phillips saying. <v Speaker 1>Bruno says, he'll only come out roddy if you introduce <v Speaker 1>him as the living legend. <v Speaker 2>So that's the story, my god. <v Speaker 7>Okay, it's the laptand Wrestling podcast, the wrestling podcast that <v Speaker 7>knows the boys need their candy. It's the lapsed fan. <v Speaker 7>He's the Lapsed Fan Wrestling podcast with Jack and Carnacio <v Speaker 7>and JP Soro. <v Speaker 2>And I'll tell you what fucking Piper is hilarious. Right <v Speaker 2>at the beginning, ladies. <v Speaker 4>No where in New York, aren't we? <v Speaker 2>There ain't none of those here. <v Speaker 5>This day. <v Speaker 8>Wasn't that people of New York. I would like to <v Speaker 8>introduce you to mister Runo Srtedo. <v Speaker 1>And Bruto comes out jogging in the most dad in <v Speaker 1>nineteen eighty five polo you've ever seen. <v Speaker 2>I mean, can he possibly like don't jog man. <v Speaker 1>Chest popping out, big old titties. Mountain Ah chairs are <v Speaker 1>in the ring for Piper's pit with Ace Orton as well. <v Speaker 1>Please pull up a chair. Yeah, Seventino grabs a mic. <v Speaker 1>You want to interview me? Won't get rid of this <v Speaker 1>garbage right now, he says about Orton. Unless you're too <v Speaker 1>Unless unless you're to frighten one on one. I'm not <v Speaker 1>exactly thrilled of being in your stupid Piper's pit. But <v Speaker 1>if you're gonna be one on one like a man <v Speaker 1>interview me, you insist on having this guy in here, <v Speaker 1>I'll get one of my friends out here to come <v Speaker 1>into this ring. And they pop you like crazy, and <v Speaker 1>Piper grabs the mic and screen you wait a minute, <v Speaker 1>and he decides to do it. He sends Bobby as <v Speaker 1>he calls him Bob Orton Junior, out of the ring <v Speaker 1>and there's a hug between Piper Norton. <v Speaker 2>He's gone. <v Speaker 1>Ordon steps out with his cast on and Piper says, <v Speaker 1>I'm okay, I have nothing to fear. Yeah, he says, <v Speaker 1>are you a happy person now? Semrartez says, I am <v Speaker 1>happy and ready. Berno takes his seat and Piper spit <v Speaker 1>and Piper says, you still won't be able to get up, <v Speaker 1>won't you? And then he goes garlic for lunch. <v Speaker 2>Oh my god, it was absolutely amazing. <v Speaker 1>Because Sammartino smells like garlic. Ah goes, I look at <v Speaker 1>you and you're so much uglier than I am, and <v Speaker 1>they have a laugh. I can what I can see <v Speaker 1>up in the on the marquee, in the garden, oh, <v Speaker 1>up in the deny, what do you see? <v Speaker 2>Well? I would say that this segment is brought to <v Speaker 2>you by a Bally's Casino, Burger King your way right away, <v Speaker 2>met Life, Nathan's hot Dogs, and the time is ten <v Speaker 2>seventeen pm. <v Speaker 1>Local time right, and what's significant about that Met Life logo? <v Speaker 2>Oh shit? <v Speaker 1>Has Brian Penry he educated us on oh Shit a <v Speaker 1>special two part interview we've dropped on you over the <v Speaker 1>past two weeks. That was the menu Life logo, the <v Speaker 1>met Life logo that they sued or threatened to sue <v Speaker 1>WWF overcopying right. <v Speaker 2>Around this times right. Actually, when I get it, Yes, <v Speaker 2>that's it. Oh my god, I'm looking at it right next. <v Speaker 2>I didn't even I forgot all about this. <v Speaker 1>We want to talk about fucking serendipity. <v Speaker 2>You're damn right. <v Speaker 1>Talked to Brian Penry, the creative director for WWF at <v Speaker 1>the time. He designed the Saturday Night's main event logo, <v Speaker 1>the WWF logo that we all cherish, and the very <v Speaker 1>first one he did, which you recognize if you saw it. <v Speaker 1>It's sort of like a four point thing. We put <v Speaker 1>a graphic on our Twitter page and on the posts <v Speaker 1>about this. It's like w north, west, south and east right, <v Speaker 1>and it looks a lot like the m's on the <v Speaker 1>men MetLife logo at the time, and turns out, according <v Speaker 1>to Brian Penry, Vince received a letter from the CEO <v Speaker 1>of Met Life telling him to change the logo, and <v Speaker 1>Vince comes back and says, I'll be one hundred thousand dollars. <v Speaker 1>It's going to cost us a lot of money to <v Speaker 1>do all of that, and he got a check. He <v Speaker 1>got a check. <v Speaker 2>That's amazing. <v Speaker 1>And as a result of that, we got the prototype <v Speaker 1>for the logo that we all need and we all <v Speaker 1>cherish and that's our true north star. So it's it's <v Speaker 1>amazing that that popped up in the background of the <v Speaker 1>first thing we watch after learning the significance of the <v Speaker 1>met Life logo of all things the insurance industry. <v Speaker 3>So that is that. <v Speaker 2>And Piper, you know, I just want to say that <v Speaker 2>we do we ensure your entertainment. <v Speaker 1>Starts with an eepal WWI, Per says, and of course <v Speaker 1>these people here and they have demanded, they wanted me <v Speaker 1>to call you the living legend. Is to say that, <v Speaker 1>yer sis, did you bring your whole family? What is <v Speaker 1>this out here? But just ask him, grabs the mic <v Speaker 1>and says, do you know why they call me the <v Speaker 1>living legend? I met many big mouths and I shut <v Speaker 1>them up and they pop for that. They both stand up. Piper, <v Speaker 1>that's the best one. He does best company back Wher <v Speaker 1>says you fought here too, hundred and eleven times. How <v Speaker 1>stupid can you be to fight two hundred and eleven <v Speaker 1>times and not realize you're all washed up? San Martino, <v Speaker 1>my two hundred eleven times, my two hundred eleventh time <v Speaker 1>I kicked my opponent's butt, So I could have meant <v Speaker 1>too washed up. Scowl on Bruno as he has to <v Speaker 1>do this. <v Speaker 2>I mean the scowl on me as a wrestling fan <v Speaker 2>having to hear this shit like that's okay, like this, <v Speaker 2>it's just a week. It's a weak response. <v Speaker 1>I got a thing Jesse Ventura could have had a <v Speaker 1>lot of fun with. <v Speaker 2>Uh huh. <v Speaker 1>Piper says, I noticed you lost weight. Bruno comes back, <v Speaker 1>that's correct, No longer my two sixty five. I'm two <v Speaker 1>forty five and in fantastic shape, man, And they pop, <v Speaker 1>and Piper says, I noticed you lost a little hair. <v Speaker 1>So yeah, this is just Vince heaving is foot going <v Speaker 1>into Bruno through Piper and Sematina says, I lost quite <v Speaker 1>a bit of hair, just like my father, and he <v Speaker 1>lived to be ninety five. I wrote, Okay, who cares, dude? <v Speaker 1>Piper cuts there's a wonderful thought, you know it. Piper <v Speaker 1>says when you were coming over to this country, and <v Speaker 1>Semouteto cuts them off and says, I'm very proud of it. <v Speaker 1>I'm from Italy. That gets a pop, and they says, <v Speaker 1>by the way they'll leave, we don't wear skirts. Piper <v Speaker 1>gets up on the bottom rope, fuming at that. Remarkably <v Speaker 1>he hasn't heard that one before. Oh that's the way <v Speaker 1>you want to play. Huh it ain't me, that's Scott, <v Speaker 1>I know, lie fat puke son covering his daddy's name. <v Speaker 1>Semberutato says, don't start anything, don't say anything smart, I <v Speaker 1>won't take it from you. Now, interview me like a man, <v Speaker 1>or just walk out of here. Vipers to sit down then, <v Speaker 1>and they do as he always in every Piper spit <v Speaker 1>He's got to say, sit down, sit. <v Speaker 2>Down, yep, yep. <v Speaker 1>If you want to be interviewed like a man, sit <v Speaker 1>down like a man. You think fifteen years ago, when <v Speaker 1>you were in your prime, do you figure you told <v Speaker 1>at least lack of chantitude. <v Speaker 2>Sometimes you got it right. I mean that's it doesn't <v Speaker 2>make any sense. <v Speaker 1>But he gets to the point, I think if you <v Speaker 1>figure standing like a lick of chance against someone like <v Speaker 1>myself in my prime. Now I want you to think. <v Speaker 1>I know it's hard for you to think. Take your time, <v Speaker 1>he says to him. I did not make the question <v Speaker 1>too hard. I realize your eyes are nasty and naughty. <v Speaker 1>Your nose is smeared a little over your face. Do <v Speaker 1>you think in your wildest dreams, Bernos Simartino, after fifteen <v Speaker 1>years you could ever come close? Saymartino says, I faced <v Speaker 1>the best in the world. If you around fifteen years ago, <v Speaker 1>I would squash you like a grape. And I'll squash <v Speaker 1>it like a grape. Now there it is, you stupid <v Speaker 1>wat man. And he gets shoved over and the chair <v Speaker 1>rolls over, and Bruno turns to leave and gets clipped <v Speaker 1>with a chair and Piper rams it into his neck <v Speaker 1>and starts starts beating the shit out of him. I <v Speaker 1>think he even says, motherfucker. If you listen really closely, <v Speaker 1>Oh wow, drinks are flying into the ring. We have heat. <v Speaker 1>Piper's hitting Berno Sarmartino with a microphone with his shirt <v Speaker 1>hanging off, and Piper takes off his shirt and the <v Speaker 1>belt as well. <v Speaker 2>Yep and uh. <v Speaker 1>Gorilla and Jesse are on the call, and Jesse says <v Speaker 1>Piper had about all he could take from the living legend. <v Speaker 1>It was Bruno that struck Piper first, litigating. <v Speaker 6>Hey, I saw that, you know what I say, Bruno, <v Speaker 6>Bruno attack Piper. Why is Piper the bad guy here? <v Speaker 6>He wasn't the first aggressor here, Gorilla, you know Bruno <v Speaker 6>drew first blood. I'm sitting here watching it just like <v Speaker 6>you are, Gorilla. We both know Bruno threw the first punch. <v Speaker 2>In fact, I'll tell you right now, Gorilla, you weren't <v Speaker 2>even looking at it. You were looking at your damn <v Speaker 2>breakfast hot dog there, And I've been paying attention to <v Speaker 2>the bout hot dog and your goddamn banana. You're not <v Speaker 2>paying attention doing your job. <v Speaker 1>And Bruno starts firing back from his knees and Piper <v Speaker 1>grabs a chair. They fight over the chair. Bruno slugs <v Speaker 1>him and swings the chair in the corner like crazy, <v Speaker 1>and Piper ducks out of the way. Bruno basically looks <v Speaker 1>to take his head off, and Piper takes off up <v Speaker 1>the aisleway at the garden with Bob Orton and Bruno's <v Speaker 1>in the ring, wiping his shirt off, ripping it off, <v Speaker 1>screaming like he wants some revenge here at the ten <v Speaker 1>twenty two hour according to the clock at the garden. <v Speaker 1>There we go, and Jean's going to take us now <v Speaker 1>to Bruno versus Rowdy Rowdy Piper yep. <v Speaker 2>And here is what Bruno has to say about that. <v Speaker 4>In this particular case, Gina was easy because I had <v Speaker 4>tremendous disliking for Pipe. When I had warned my fans <v Speaker 4>in advance that I was not going to go in <v Speaker 4>that rank to show a wrestling I went down there <v Speaker 4>to do a number on Piper. I let the fence <v Speaker 4>know and I let Piper know. And that's exactly what happened. <v Speaker 4>When we went and I ran. That was not a <v Speaker 4>wrestling match. It was a brawl. I wanted to show <v Speaker 4>Piper that this older man could take care of him <v Speaker 4>as they had taken care of so many people in <v Speaker 4>the past. <v Speaker 2>Okay, and you took care of me indeed. <v Speaker 1>So that's the plan. And when's this match? Brunover's Piper? <v Speaker 2>This is uh December seventh, nineteen eighty five. <v Speaker 1>All right, eighty five Burtole going off high and low <v Speaker 1>in the bottom of Dad and you can see the <v Speaker 1>Boston guy. See the yellow floor and the yellow chairs <v Speaker 1>that's how you know, yellow everywhere For some reason, Boston <v Speaker 1>cops with their arms folded watching in the aisleway instead <v Speaker 1>of doing anything to control the people. Piper on the floor, <v Speaker 1>busted and burn it comes out after him and runs up. <v Speaker 1>Bruto comes out after him and runs Piper into the post. <v Speaker 1>So yeah, it's some modern brawling here from Bruno. There's <v Speaker 1>even yellow steps in the garden to get in the ring. <v Speaker 1>I know, right, did those get involved in bed? As <v Speaker 1>Bruno throws Piper into a chair and drags his back, <v Speaker 1>him back into the ring. Gorilla and Jess on the call, <v Speaker 1>Bruno rams him into the corner, kicks the stomach, and <v Speaker 1>the mat makes a big swap as Piper hits the deck. <v Speaker 1>This is a month after the Piper's Pit segment we <v Speaker 1>just watched. Yeah, as Bruno was hauling off going to <v Speaker 1>the North End, no doubt after this occasion. <v Speaker 2>Oh you're damn listen, listen. He he got he went <v Speaker 2>to Bova's, got a couple of Canoli's. <v Speaker 1>Keep it open late for Bruno from absolutely. <v Speaker 2>Absolutely, you know it's he's just walking over, you know, <v Speaker 2>walking over, going to Cafe Pompeii, gonna get some maybe <v Speaker 2>get some some pasta with meat sauce. <v Speaker 1>I think so. <v Speaker 2>Perhaps, Yeah, I can see him as being a Bolognier's fan. <v Speaker 2>They got a great Bologniets. <v Speaker 1>Is that how he says it? Actually? You know what, <v Speaker 1>I think I can narrow this down. Just hold on <v Speaker 1>one second, Okay, I finally had occasion to look this up. Yes, <v Speaker 1>I always remembered that in a book that came out <v Speaker 1>called Russell Radio USA by Ed Simkis and Vinnie Carroll, <v Speaker 1>and they were Boston area radio show hosts and they <v Speaker 1>used to have a wrestling show. Oh I didn't listen <v Speaker 1>to it. I was too young, But they came out <v Speaker 1>with a book of transcripts of some of their bigger <v Speaker 1>wrestling star interviews. They used to interview people all the time. <v Speaker 1>And this is where I get this whole notion in <v Speaker 1>my head of Bruno going to the North End in Boston. Okay, <v Speaker 1>Italian North End after his match is just a quick <v Speaker 1>snippet here. Mister Tremtino. It's a great, great honor to <v Speaker 1>have you on. Do you have any specific memories of Boston. <v Speaker 1>I really did love Boston. I had some great matches there. <v Speaker 1>I don't know how many times I fought Kowalski in Boston, <v Speaker 1>but each time for me it was quite a thing <v Speaker 1>because I had the utmost respect for that man. He <v Speaker 1>was one of the best conditioned wrestlers that I've ever known. <v Speaker 1>I think he read from this on the Colosseum tape. <v Speaker 1>It sounds like, Wow, the guy didn't know what getting <v Speaker 1>tired meant. So it was a great challenge for me <v Speaker 1>because I prided myself to be in good shape all <v Speaker 1>the time. I wrestled Kowalsky in Boston a number of times, <v Speaker 1>and each time for me, it was a memorable bout. <v Speaker 1>I don't think I ever had what a fan might <v Speaker 1>call a boring match. And in Boston, Okay, and in Boston, <v Speaker 1>the fans were absolutely fantastic. When I'd go in the ring, <v Speaker 1>the ovations were great. But even afterward, after the matches, <v Speaker 1>I would go to the North End. I think it <v Speaker 1>was a place called Cantina Tavianna. That's your assignment. Cantina <v Speaker 1>tavian t A V I A n A wait ta <v Speaker 1>v I I N I A n A. Yeah, Tavian <v Speaker 1>Cafe closed in nineteen seventy one. <v Speaker 2>Well, it's wait a minute, I mean, this is this Okay. <v Speaker 2>First of all, I want for the first thing. <v Speaker 1>Yeah. <v Speaker 2>The first thing that comes up obviously the AI overview, <v Speaker 2>which I never I never ever, He says, Cantina Taviana <v Speaker 2>is a Mexican restaurant and bar. <v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't think you went to a Mexican place, No, <v Speaker 1>not at all. The north here. Come on, the owner <v Speaker 1>came from Europe too. We'd keep the place open and <v Speaker 1>it was just great. Keep it open. I love that notion. <v Speaker 1>So we can Bruno can come in with his blazer on. <v Speaker 2>It might be so when I do it. The olyphant <v Speaker 2>that comes up is. <v Speaker 1>What was it called in Cantina Tavy. <v Speaker 2>Andantina Taviana Right now? What comes up is UH Cantina Italiana, okay, <v Speaker 2>which is in UH, which is in the north end there. <v Speaker 2>But hold on, I want to see if I can <v Speaker 2>find this here. <v Speaker 1>He keeps the place open and it was just great. <v Speaker 1>I came to Boston once a month for many many years. <v Speaker 1>I had other great bouts there too, Tanaka cage match <v Speaker 1>with Hanson after he came back to my broken neck, <v Speaker 1>Russell colof my via one time. One time, Monsoon broke <v Speaker 1>the ring. They had to hold the whole show up <v Speaker 1>for a couple hours, so they were able to repir. <v Speaker 2>I bet it's it. I bet this. I bet Cantina <v Speaker 2>and Taliana is it because according to their Instagram page, <v Speaker 2>it's the oldest restaurant on the North End. It's got <v Speaker 2>to be it. That's got to be it. So I'm <v Speaker 2>gonna go there just to eat. We're brunoit. Yeah, we <v Speaker 2>got tremendous look at since nineteen thirty one, nineteen thirty one, <v Speaker 2>since nineteen thirty one. That's old school, man. I've never <v Speaker 2>heard of this place on Hanover. Yeah, three forty six <v Speaker 2>Hanna Retreat. I have never heard of this fucking place. <v Speaker 2>Why have I never heard of this place? Bruno heard <v Speaker 2>about it? I know you would get a town car <v Speaker 2>to take him there. Let's see they have for appetizers, <v Speaker 2>they have Cantina meatballs. They have Prejutan motts, zuper the cots, <v Speaker 2>Uh got them? Yes? <v Speaker 5>And yeah? <v Speaker 2>Uh they have Oh they have they have AINEI yes, <v Speaker 2>with the fried rice balls filled with angus beef, bolognes <v Speaker 2>ragou and asaggio cheese. <v Speaker 1>Oh, he would definitely order that. <v Speaker 2>Oh, for God's sakes. Yes, Uh, Mazzarella and carrots breaded <v Speaker 2>and pan fried. Mozzarella marinera. That's that beautiful clams oregonatte <v Speaker 2>see they have salad. That's right, I. <v Speaker 4>Bruno never got trouble record. <v Speaker 5>There for you. <v Speaker 2>My friend Anthony. <v Speaker 1>Who's screaming at. <v Speaker 9>Kie stine a la pesto Giovese and papla pourio, a <v Speaker 9>broccoli americano, bombola Bungosta. <v Speaker 2>Oh you know you're doing me? Oh ship, they got <v Speaker 2>they get carbonaro. I got a go. We gotta go <v Speaker 2>to this place. This is fucking money, especially now we're <v Speaker 2>doing it. Holy shit, I mean this sounds legit, man, <v Speaker 2>Like where the fuck is this places been? It's been <v Speaker 2>here all the time in. <v Speaker 1>The long tenure. Man, that's I gotta the oldest restaurant <v Speaker 1>in Boston. <v Speaker 2>Fucking lived there, No, you know what I mean, but <v Speaker 2>I fucking lived in the North End. First time. I <v Speaker 2>never heard of this place. <v Speaker 1>Wow, Cave Italiana so basic. I don't know why you'd <v Speaker 1>remember it as Cafe Taviana, but maybe it probably might <v Speaker 1>have been. <v Speaker 2>It might have been the name of it before before. <v Speaker 2>Let me see, they got a history page here. I <v Speaker 2>see it doesn't really give a history at all. Cafe <v Speaker 2>Taliana's historic location in Boston has been creating authentic Italian <v Speaker 2>dishes for the North End community, sincenineteen thirty one. Since then, <v Speaker 2>we are proud to say that our inviting, comfortable atmosphere <v Speaker 2>has drawn people back for generations. Absolutely, Like, come on, <v Speaker 2>that's not a history, that's just a fucking thing. <v Speaker 1>Yeah, this is a statement. <v Speaker 2>I have a video to a video toured a restaurant <v Speaker 2>meeting in there. <v Speaker 1>That's what I need. <v Speaker 2>Oh you know, I kind of recognize that sign though <v Speaker 2>you recognize that sign, the cantina Italian cantina is vertical, <v Speaker 2>italianos horizontal underneath. I kind of remember that. <v Speaker 1>Gotta go, there's gotta be there's definitely a frame picture <v Speaker 1>of Bruno in there. <v Speaker 2>Oh I do know this place. It's got the walls <v Speaker 2>are painted with the uh yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. <v Speaker 2>The wall There are certain walls when you go into <v Speaker 2>the restaurant that are that are painted with I feel <v Speaker 2>like I came here one time, not for ironically dinner, <v Speaker 2>but I came from like a cappuccino or something like <v Speaker 2>that with somebody. Yeah yeah, because it's got like paintings, <v Speaker 2>like the walls, got arches and stuff like that. Like <v Speaker 2>it's got it's very decorated in charactery and inside the <v Speaker 2>arches are draw our paintings of Italy. Wow. Yeah all <v Speaker 2>right and starving Yeah, oh. <v Speaker 1>Yeah, that was definitely that's quite a line up there. <v Speaker 1>I'm glad I finally got that in. I was never <v Speaker 1>I could never find a time to go pull that <v Speaker 1>book off. But that's shout out ted Simkis, by the way, <v Speaker 1>who was helpful to me. We read the Pete Doherty <v Speaker 1>story I did when we did the Saturday Into main event. Yeah, <v Speaker 1>did the history of Boston Wrestling piece, and he was <v Speaker 1>quite generous with his insights, and he also gave me <v Speaker 1>an old old school Boston garden poster. <v Speaker 2>That we could scan in tremendous So it's nice to <v Speaker 2>meet him. <v Speaker 1>So yes, Bruno ramsom into the corner, kicks the stomach, <v Speaker 1>and the map makes that big swap as Piper hits <v Speaker 1>the deck, Bruno hauling off going to the north end <v Speaker 1>Dad has mentioned, but the referee is shoved down in <v Speaker 1>the process and Piper goes low with the referee being <v Speaker 1>distracted and then slugs him from his knees, gets a <v Speaker 1>two count on Bruno in a big slap and rattle <v Speaker 1>of Plywood on this mat man, Oh, they put that <v Speaker 1>together with loose materials in Boston. Jesse says, there wasn't <v Speaker 1>even a bowl. These probably aired on a match probably <v Speaker 1>aired on Nesson about that, Oh my god. That's kind <v Speaker 1>of like our version of MSG Network that would play <v Speaker 1>play the Red Sox instead of the Nicks and Yankees. Well, <v Speaker 1>I don't know about Yankees anyway. They would show the <v Speaker 1>matches from the garden, Boston Garden, just like the MSG <v Speaker 1>Network would show matches from Madison Square. The Marquis was <v Speaker 1>the only Boston Garden was the WWF logo and Bruno <v Speaker 1>Samartino was Roddy. Piper is listed up there. Referee tries <v Speaker 1>to inspect the cut, but Piper brushes him off and <v Speaker 1>pursues as Bruno was throwing punches off of his knees. <v Speaker 1>We now have the WWF logo imprinted on the turnbuckle pad. <v Speaker 1>So that's a yes, that's a big that's a development. <v Speaker 1>Is that like a first on this Colisseum collection? Probably not? <v Speaker 2>Probably no, no, probably not. We've seen we've seen it before. <v Speaker 1>But I'm just so jarring after seeing so many seventies matches. <v Speaker 2>I know, I think for this one it's really yeah, <v Speaker 2>he's right hand. <v Speaker 1>And Bruno spills out of the ring to the yellow <v Speaker 1>floor on the outside by Piper. Bruno slides in and <v Speaker 1>throws a kick off of his back to keep Piper <v Speaker 1>at bay, then kicks and rams Piper into the buckle, <v Speaker 1>as Gorilla says that San Martino of old is evident here. <v Speaker 1>As they go up the aisle, Bruno goes after and <v Speaker 1>throws him back into the ring. Piper slugs him and <v Speaker 1>they walk all the way and he tries to scram <v Speaker 1>again out of the ring, and again Bruno catches him <v Speaker 1>and they try fighting in the aisle almost to the <v Speaker 1>hockey board where the Bruins hockey ice used to be. <v Speaker 1>This is the old garden, by the way, for those <v Speaker 1>that I don't know that it was torn down in <v Speaker 1>ninety five or ninety six and now it's the TD garden. <v Speaker 1>Piper is loaded back into the ring and Bruno gets <v Speaker 1>in as well, and they stand up and looks and <v Speaker 1>looks at him and holds his arms like he said, <v Speaker 1>I beat his ass, and they pop for that. Piper, though, <v Speaker 1>reaches over the middle and Bruno pulls his trunks down <v Speaker 1>and we get a We basically get a look at <v Speaker 1>Roddy Piper's ass crack, don't we, boss. <v Speaker 2>Yes, we do. That's and it won't be the last <v Speaker 2>time we get his ass crack in Boston. Why what's <v Speaker 2>the other time get in the next match? Oh right, okay, <v Speaker 2>we see it in the next match right away. Fucking <v Speaker 2>Jesus Christ. <v Speaker 1>Piper comes up slugging now and a double ax floor <v Speaker 1>is Bruno San Martino huge bald spot on Bruno, by <v Speaker 1>the way, in clear view. <v Speaker 2>I know it's I mean, it's like it's like John <v Speaker 2>Cina bad. As we know. <v Speaker 1>Piper was calling attention to it, so it's fair game. <v Speaker 1>And even it wasn't, we'd comment on it. Of course. <v Speaker 1>Guerrilla on Soon says Berti. Sibertine was running five miles <v Speaker 1>a day, three times a week. It seems like he <v Speaker 1>didn't hesitate to remind anyone who asked, and even those <v Speaker 1>who didn't ask that he's running quite a brit Bruno's <v Speaker 1>definitely one of those guys man that you don't have <v Speaker 1>to ask, and he's gonna mention his workouts. Ye, Jesse says. <v Speaker 1>The longer the match goes, it went in Piper's favor. <v Speaker 1>He came in thinking that but as the match develops, <v Speaker 1>Jesse isn't so sure about that. Bruno berries a right <v Speaker 1>hand to the solar plexus. You called it solar plexus, <v Speaker 1>questioning if it was in fact a low blow. As <v Speaker 1>Piper is floored, Bruno picks him up and throws him <v Speaker 1>into the corner. And then here comes bob ace Orton. <v Speaker 1>He hits the ring and Bruno blocks the shot with <v Speaker 1>the cast and stays hitting him as the bell sounds <v Speaker 1>due to interference. Berno trying to get the cast off <v Speaker 1>of Bob Orton. That's a good idea. And then he dropped. <v Speaker 1>I know, like nobody's done that before at all. Just <v Speaker 1>end it now, get it off him and throw it <v Speaker 1>in the river. Bruno drops Roy and keeps on wrapping <v Speaker 1>the cast as the bell tolls, and then Bruno tosses <v Speaker 1>Orton out of the ring and drops Piper and mounts <v Speaker 1>him and rams his head into the canvas. Orton and Piper, <v Speaker 1>let's see. Orton comes then in and drops the cast <v Speaker 1>arm to the back of the head of Bruno. They <v Speaker 1>say they thought he had eliminated Orton, but it was <v Speaker 1>like U, I guess it was like stam Mussine's right <v Speaker 1>over kaway. It was only simper. So Bruno is held <v Speaker 1>open and Piper slugs him, drops the referee as well. <v Speaker 1>Bruno gets tied up in the ropes for a further assault. <v Speaker 1>The referees assaulted again and Piper spits on him throws <v Speaker 1>a snot rock at his way. God, it's a vicious <v Speaker 1>he'll beat down. I don't even know the outcome there. <v Speaker 1>I guess Bruno won by DQ because. <v Speaker 2>I guess there was a no contest or something like that. <v Speaker 1>They don't show us the finish. They just forward to <v Speaker 1>Ginokel and back in studio. Now this is an interesting situation. <v Speaker 2>Wait not back in studio, are we ge? <v Speaker 1>You got yourself in tremendous shape? <v Speaker 2>Better? Oh yeah, well I don't have Gene, But if <v Speaker 2>you want to go Gene, I got Bruno. When when <v Speaker 2>you're ready, Yeah, go ahead? All right. <v Speaker 4>Well, first of all, I never allowed myself to get <v Speaker 4>out of shape, Jane. And as far as going from <v Speaker 4>a single match to a tag match, they're really not <v Speaker 4>much of an adjustment to make because I had so <v Speaker 4>much experience in both single antag tream match throughout my career. <v Speaker 4>This was really a pleasure one because I had orne <v Speaker 4>or fast, my partner, whom I have great respect for, <v Speaker 4>a great, great condition athlete, and to go and a <v Speaker 4>ring against two people that we both disliked tremendously and <v Speaker 4>Horton and Piper. For me, it was not work that night, <v Speaker 4>but it was rather a joy to have a partner <v Speaker 4>like Worndorf and to go in there and do a <v Speaker 4>number on those two. <v Speaker 1>Do a number on him, indeed. <v Speaker 2>Number on those two. This is one again on the <v Speaker 2>catalog the Colssum Video catalog site. Listen, this match occurred <v Speaker 2>on which is weird given that the last one happened <v Speaker 2>on December seventh, ninety five. This one, they said, was <v Speaker 2>September twenty eighth, ninet eighty five at the Philadelphia Spectrum. <v Speaker 2>Oh wow, which is Sam Martino and Orndorf versus Piper <v Speaker 2>and Norton. But it's not this one. <v Speaker 1>This is very much Boston Garden. <v Speaker 2>This is bo Yeah, that's right. That's when I saw <v Speaker 2>again the Boston Guard Like I saw the floor and <v Speaker 2>I saw the steps. I was like, wait a minute, <v Speaker 2>that's not the Spectrum, that's the Garden. And this one <v Speaker 2>took place on January eleventh, ninet eighty six. <v Speaker 1>Excellent, excellent, specificity. So paul and Droff with the right <v Speaker 1>hands hands bob working out of the ring and Bruno <v Speaker 1>holds Piper open for a shot and pobably it looks <v Speaker 1>like paulooren Dorff has a cast on too, Sure what <v Speaker 1>happened to him? Jesse to crying using a cast as <v Speaker 1>a weapon now that Paulo and Dwarff is. <v Speaker 2>Doduing, Yeah right, yep, fucking great. The double standard is spectacular. <v Speaker 1>Piper flare flops off of a paulooren Dworff cast shot. <v Speaker 1>There's a mid ring nogg and knocker, and Jesse says <v Speaker 1>there's been no ring announcements, nothing, as Paulo and Dwarff <v Speaker 1>is getting big pops as he lays him in on <v Speaker 1>Piper in the corner. Now it's cast against cast. Gorilla says, <v Speaker 1>damn night came out on the top. <v Speaker 2>Let's see that's that was us in the last couple <v Speaker 2>of months. <v Speaker 1>To the apron on paul Oarendorf's side, he gets slammed <v Speaker 1>into the buckle two and Jesse says, paul ooren Dwarf <v Speaker 1>was choking Piper out with the tag rope. Bruno by <v Speaker 1>the to make no mistake is clutching that tag rope. <v Speaker 1>If there's one man you can count on, yeah, to <v Speaker 1>believe in the tag rope, it's Bruno San Martino and <v Speaker 1>he cups his head to tag Bruno and they go nuts. <v Speaker 1>He gets the tag. Bob Orton gets in and Bruno <v Speaker 1>kicks and punches the shit out of him. Grila Monsoon says, <v Speaker 1>Ace is the one who Pearl harbored Sammartino, so he's <v Speaker 1>getting what he deserves. Gets that in there, headlock, push <v Speaker 1>off tackle. Orton goes low on the rebound and Bruno <v Speaker 1>Simartino hits the deck as bob Orton drops a fist <v Speaker 1>and makes a tag to Piper. Gorilla says, I don't <v Speaker 1>know if the cast has been allowed for this match. <v Speaker 2>Well, we're allowed for this match. <v Speaker 1>Simartino gets free as the referee makes him get out <v Speaker 1>of the ring, and he slugs Roddy before he does. <v Speaker 1>Pursued on the floor, but bob Orton cuts him off. <v Speaker 1>Piper grabs one of those wooden chairs and lightly taps <v Speaker 1>Bruno across the back with it. <v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know it's brutal. It's brutal. How bad it is? <v Speaker 1>Yes, Yeah, it's strange. Credulity paulo or Dorff has the <v Speaker 1>chair and he's swinging it, loads it into the ring, <v Speaker 1>and Jesse says, I don't know what to call this <v Speaker 1>it is? Is it a street fight? As Piper rams <v Speaker 1>Bruno into those yellow garden steps, Jesse thinks Brunos and <v Speaker 1>Martina will be happy to go back to being just <v Speaker 1>an announcer when this one's over. He's, as we heard earlier, <v Speaker 1>he's probably hoping for it. <v Speaker 2>He's hoping for it exactly. Piper and Rton praying to God. <v Speaker 1>Doing kind of the snooka on the knee. Pos I <v Speaker 1>don't know what that was about. All of a sudden <v Speaker 1>they're falling to a knee and putting the I love <v Speaker 1>you hand signal up. Jesse thinks Bruno is should should <v Speaker 1>have stayed retired as Piper closes in, but Bruno puts <v Speaker 1>him in the corner and goes to work a bit, <v Speaker 1>slugs Bob Orton as well to a big pop, but <v Speaker 1>Piper rakes his eyes whip and uh. Bruno ducks and wham, <v Speaker 1>grabs a headlock and tags Paul Oorndorf. Worndorff comes in <v Speaker 1>with his cast off the top rope. Jesse calls him <v Speaker 1>out for flagrantly hitting his opponent with the cast, and <v Speaker 1>Grilla Montsu says it's absolutely not in his qualification. So <v Speaker 1>I guess that's the final word. If Gorilla says so <v Speaker 1>exactly like you can, it's you're allowed to use the cast. <v Speaker 1>It's like that gene sterotor they go to in New York. <v Speaker 1>An NFL ruler right right, Allowendorff lines up a pile <v Speaker 1>driver on a barry on a bob Orton. <v Speaker 2>Do that again. <v Speaker 1>Bruno cuts him off and Pauloworen Dwarf is trying to lift, <v Speaker 1>but bob Orton comes off the top of the cap <v Speaker 1>shot cast shot that drops Orndorf. Piper then rolls slowly <v Speaker 1>over to cover him for two. Jesse wants to know <v Speaker 1>what it is with the referees being afraid to count three. <v Speaker 1>That's a funny thing to say when the heels get <v Speaker 1>a two count. Yeah, what is this with these referees <v Speaker 1>afraid to count to three? Whose pocket are they in? <v Speaker 1>Hyper rams, paulow Dwarf. <v Speaker 2>Did you pay them off? <v Speaker 1>Monshoot, let's get some answers here a ringside. <v Speaker 2>These are cowardly referees. <v Speaker 1>If you ask me, it would be oh so convenient <v Speaker 1>wouldn't it if these referees ultimately came up on your <v Speaker 1>side of the ledger when they administered the count. <v Speaker 2>I bet you very yeah, I bet you exactly what <v Speaker 2>happens that if Orndorf was was making the cover, he'd <v Speaker 2>count to three. <v Speaker 1>Just fine, exactly, amen, you can put that one in <v Speaker 1>the chamber for the next Saturday Night's made event exactly. <v Speaker 1>Please do Orndorf into the corner and then he seizes <v Speaker 1>on him. He almost has like a seizure. There's a <v Speaker 1>frisbee thrown into the ring. Those must be the ones <v Speaker 1>Landy Papa would throw to the crowd. <v Speaker 2>That's a fucking backfire right here. <v Speaker 1>One lands in the ring. Piper launches it on the <v Speaker 1>apron at Bruno actually and then slugs him. Berno steps <v Speaker 1>into the ring, and Jesse calls for illegally trying to <v Speaker 1>come into the ring. Wants that to be called as <v Speaker 1>if bob Orton drops Paul Orndorf, not tag made, and <v Speaker 1>Grilla Onsun says, if you don't see it, ref get <v Speaker 1>him out of there. Doesn't quite do that. As bob <v Speaker 1>Orton drives Paul Ordorf into the mat for two, whip <v Speaker 1>is reversed and bob Orton takes the sergeant slaughter corner bump. <v Speaker 1>You know what I'm talking about? <v Speaker 2>He does, Yes, indeed, yells boom yep. <v Speaker 1>Orndorf nails Roddy Piper with the cast. Piper's now slouched <v Speaker 1>over the ropes, and then bob Orton slides in front <v Speaker 1>of poul Oorendorf. He slides like a dropstep in amateur wrestling, Yes, <v Speaker 1>to nudge him back with his head and prevent the tag. Awesome, awesome, <v Speaker 1>uh flash of brilliance there from bob Orton. Piper gets <v Speaker 1>back and slugging paul Oorendorf, peppering him with punches up <v Speaker 1>in a whip, Orndorf throws off the sunset flip. Piper <v Speaker 1>stands and hits him, but Paul or Dwarf keeps holding <v Speaker 1>on and yanks Piper down by the trunk set once again. <v Speaker 2>More ass in Boston. It's too for Roddy Piper. <v Speaker 1>Bob Orton breaks it up, Piper's ass hanging out as <v Speaker 1>he stomp an. Orndorf tag to bob Orton, the best <v Speaker 1>the best thing is that is that Orton is that <v Speaker 1>Piper never pulls up his pants. Now he's let it <v Speaker 1>hang doesn't he he walks around like. <v Speaker 2>With his ass fucking hanging out halfway. It's really funny. <v Speaker 1>Yeah, I didn't know Piper did that kind of physical comedy. <v Speaker 2>I love when I love they do that, like when <v Speaker 2>they just don't care. Yeah, you know, and they just <v Speaker 2>kind of let that shit happen. <v Speaker 1>Like they're too proud. They're too proud to acknowledge that <v Speaker 1>the guy did it to the right so attacked bob Orton, <v Speaker 1>who goes off with the headlog punches and Piper's ascrac <v Speaker 1>still showing no attempt to fix it. As mentioned, bob <v Speaker 1>Orton lines up a pile driver. Paul Orndorf counters with <v Speaker 1>a backdrop he knows something about the pile driver. After all, <v Speaker 1>bob Orton is going for the pile driver like I wrote, <v Speaker 1>bob Orton going for the driver like Hogan. At Nassau <v Speaker 1>Coliseum in nineteen eighty nine, Paul Arndorff pulls himself up <v Speaker 1>on the ropes and throws a falling clothes line that <v Speaker 1>drops bob Orton. Squirrel La Monsoon says it looks like <v Speaker 1>a Texas death match here. Double down for both as <v Speaker 1>bob Orton tags out, as does Paul Orndorf. So here <v Speaker 1>comes Bruno to the Big Pop to face off with <v Speaker 1>rowdy Roddy Piper, slugging it out with him. Now tosses <v Speaker 1>Piper out of the ring and goes after him. Piper <v Speaker 1>tries to climb the railing and Bruno rams him into <v Speaker 1>the apron and there's kind of a miscue and a <v Speaker 1>push off spot into the post. Anyway, Bruno picks up <v Speaker 1>a chair and swinging wildly and missus Piper's head just <v Speaker 1>narrowly and crashes the chair into the ring post, and <v Speaker 1>the referee calls for the bell upon seeing that Roddy <v Speaker 1>Piper's hand is raised. Him and Orton win the match <v Speaker 1>by d Q. Even though Bruno didn't land the chair shot, <v Speaker 1>they still decue him for swinging it as far as <v Speaker 1>I can tell, yeh, which is unusual. Piper bales and well. <v Speaker 2>No, that's not what happened. That's not what happened at all. <v Speaker 2>What happens is it's a count out. <v Speaker 1>Oh it's counted out, not Q. <v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, I thought it was a <v Speaker 2>Q as well at first, but then but then oh yeah, <v Speaker 2>there it is. Yeah. Uh, Piper gets back into the ring. <v Speaker 2>That's what that's what it was. Was the last minute <v Speaker 2>count out, all right. <v Speaker 1>So Bruno and uh paul Endorff lose to Piper and <v Speaker 1>Orton here via count out in Boston, and Paulo and <v Speaker 1>Drff is consoling Bruno after the match, and they say <v Speaker 1>that really wasn't a match, It was more pandemonium. Anything <v Speaker 1>goes when the whistle blows. Gorilla says they show a <v Speaker 1>replay and Jesse points out that Bruno and Piper were legal. <v Speaker 1>Blah blah blah. Orton took a huge bump off the <v Speaker 1>collision with Ordon Orf for what it's worth. Yeah, and <v Speaker 1>Gene Okerlint is going to bring us home final match <v Speaker 1>of Bruno San Martino, a living legend, taking it back <v Speaker 1>to the glory days once again. <v Speaker 2>And here's here's a Bruno. <v Speaker 4>There's no question, Jeina. It was a very tough life, <v Speaker 4>the traveling, being away from the family all the time, <v Speaker 4>some serious injuries, including a broken neck which almost left <v Speaker 4>me paralyzed from the neck down. It was just awesome <v Speaker 4>the obligation, but however, I loved it since I was <v Speaker 4>a little boy in Europe when I did Greco Roman wrestling, <v Speaker 4>came over to this country as a youngster, did freestyle wrestling. <v Speaker 4>Wrestling was always my life and despite all the injuries, <v Speaker 4>all the agonies that I've gone through this career, Jean, <v Speaker 4>There's no question about it. If I had started my <v Speaker 4>life all over again, there's nothing I would do differently. <v Speaker 3>Okay, what about George the Animal steel and a match <v Speaker 3>in a steel cage. <v Speaker 4>George Animal stee a three hundred pounds are very powerful, <v Speaker 4>very unusual, and I had wrestled him outside of a <v Speaker 4>cage match, and of course George Steele would handle everything <v Speaker 4>and whether it be cherished, tables, anything, it wasn't nailed <v Speaker 4>down to the ground. So I had demanded for a <v Speaker 4>cage match because I felt that since he was an animal, <v Speaker 4>that's the only way you were going to meet an <v Speaker 4>anniboys out of a cage. And it was a brutal <v Speaker 4>cage match to an extremely rough cage match, but I <v Speaker 4>felt that it was necessary. It was done. I think <v Speaker 4>that we showed the fans why Bruno San Martino was <v Speaker 4>the champion. <v Speaker 1>Let's find out what do you have for a year? <v Speaker 2>This was nineteen seventy. This was July twenty fifth, nineteen seventy, <v Speaker 2>the oldest match on the tape, YEP it is. I <v Speaker 2>just thought it was the Koloski match. No, this one <v Speaker 2>goes back to nineteen. <v Speaker 1>That's the gardening. <v Speaker 2>Actually I had in Philadelphia. Let me double check that. <v Speaker 1>You're probably rightmm. <v Speaker 2>Twenty twenty nineteen. It just says so on the history <v Speaker 2>of the wrestling site there. It just says at phil <v Speaker 2>Ladelphia PA Arena doesn't say what it is. I mean, <v Speaker 2>I imagine it's gonna be the Spectrum. <v Speaker 1>Right, I would think so. <v Speaker 2>So, yeah, what's the date again? July twenty fifth, nineteen seventy. <v Speaker 1>July tenth, seventy in the Garden San Maartinover's Crusher Verdue <v Speaker 1>August first, Sanmartino and Victor Rivera Versus Beppo and Guido Mongol, <v Speaker 1>the future Nikolai Volkoff. He were back in nineteen seventy. <v Speaker 2>Wow. <v Speaker 1>Yeah, seventeen thousand fans, twenty twenty thousand fans. This is <v Speaker 1>his Crusher Verdue days. Crusher Verdue was the first wrestler <v Speaker 1>that Albano managed, I say, and that's what earned him <v Speaker 1>his reputation because Crusher Verdue wasn't particularly charismatic, But it <v Speaker 1>was Albano's promos that sold the Garden out to wrestle Bruno. <v Speaker 1>So he was well on his way, and Bruno and <v Speaker 1>Steele have an interesting bond. It's kind of a lot <v Speaker 1>to get into now, but there was a story where <v Speaker 1>when Steele was first breaking in, he worked for Pittsburgh, <v Speaker 1>which is a territory that Bruno went a piece of, <v Speaker 1>and for some reason it pissed he pissed Bruno off. <v Speaker 1>Bruno was going around, according to Steele in his book, <v Speaker 1>telling people that he was working too stiff and he <v Speaker 1>didn't sell enough, and he was just basically putting him down. <v Speaker 1>And four months or so later, he writes, I got <v Speaker 1>a call from Bruno at school. Of course, George Steele <v Speaker 1>a history teacher, a school teacher, So that's too funny, <v Speaker 1>mister Steele, can you come to the phone. He began <v Speaker 1>telling me, in so many words, what a jerk IY <v Speaker 1>was Bruno calls him at school. As you can probably imagine, <v Speaker 1>it did not evolve into an intellectual discourse. Soon he <v Speaker 1>and I were hollering at each other, and not all <v Speaker 1>of our words had more than one syllable. Finally he <v Speaker 1>told me to shut up and listen for a minute. <v Speaker 1>He said that Vince McMahon was looking for a new <v Speaker 1>heel who had never been to the WWWF. Bruno went <v Speaker 1>on to say that he had told mister McMahon that <v Speaker 1>we could draw a lot of money in the Northeast. <v Speaker 1>He also told mister McMahon that I was a backstabber. <v Speaker 1>He said, I had thanked him to his face, but <v Speaker 1>as soon as I got back to Detroit, I started <v Speaker 1>shooting my big mouth off and knocking the way I <v Speaker 1>got paid. I then told Bruno what I had heard <v Speaker 1>about him knocking me. It turns out that we both <v Speaker 1>had been fed a line of bull. Misinformation breaks a <v Speaker 1>lot of hearts in wrestling, and it nearly broke Bruno <v Speaker 1>and me apart, and reality it created a bond that <v Speaker 1>lasted for years. The stage was for me to meet <v Speaker 1>mister McMahon in nineteen It was nineteen sixty eight Steel <v Speaker 1>recalls and Bruno Sammartino had just offered me the opportunity <v Speaker 1>of a lifetime and thus the program begins that we <v Speaker 1>see reflected here Bruno versus Steel. This is a white <v Speaker 1>mat with red ropes. Ever last urn buckles. So yeah, <v Speaker 1>this is probably Philly because this looks exactly like the <v Speaker 1>Ring or Baltimore. This looks exactly like the ring where <v Speaker 1>Graham beats Sanmartino. <v Speaker 2>For the belt. Oh okay, yeah, but I also remember when. <v Speaker 1>We were doing connecting the Spots and we were doing <v Speaker 1>those early seventies, Remember that, like Carl gotch WWF title <v Speaker 1>tight title match in a ring like this, and they <v Speaker 1>have the chicken wire fence for a steel cage. It's <v Speaker 1>not right thick bars, it's not chain link. It's like, <v Speaker 1>I don't know, just incredibly thin steel wire. You know <v Speaker 1>that you could like literally bend with two fingers. But <v Speaker 1>that's the cages they used in nineteen seventy, I guess. <v Speaker 1>And George Steel is on Berno Saimartino, raking at his face. <v Speaker 1>But Samatino gets up and starts throwing punches, but Steel <v Speaker 1>is stalking and Berna Simmartine was blinded swinging at ghosts. <v Speaker 1>Here as Brno goes to the corner of George Steeling <v Speaker 1>kicking away, you know what's building this Steel gets heat. <v Speaker 2>Oh yes, I got a great comment here by Gorilla <v Speaker 2>coming basically criticizing Steel not walking me out the door <v Speaker 2>when you have the opportunity. <v Speaker 6>Steele could have went out the door a number of <v Speaker 6>times in my opinion, at this point chose not to. <v Speaker 4>Of course, everyone knows he doesn't have both oars. <v Speaker 3>In the water. <v Speaker 1>Wonderful line. I love that line, both oars in the water. <v Speaker 1>And this is clearly a gorilla laying down a commentary track. <v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, post. It's kind of a shame because I <v Speaker 2>wanted to hear more of the you know, I want <v Speaker 2>to hear more of the live sound than I wanted <v Speaker 2>to hear Gorilla. <v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, that's the matter. <v Speaker 2>Yeah, Gorilla's completely drowns out. <v Speaker 1>The sound is monotone. <v Speaker 2>Yep. <v Speaker 1>Yeah, we don't have the benefit of an announcer is <v Speaker 1>in the building riding the emotional wave like Vince was. <v Speaker 2>So it probably wasn't I mean, it almost also looked <v Speaker 2>like it might have been on film too. I can't. <v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think so, tell but I mean, eighteen seventy <v Speaker 1>that's old in terms of wrestling stock footage. So yeah, <v Speaker 1>he's calling out Gorilla is blood into the eyes of <v Speaker 1>Bruno and knowing what that feels like, and he can't <v Speaker 1>see and therefore he's very much at the mercies of <v Speaker 1>his opponent. As he points out, there's no referee in <v Speaker 1>the ring, and one will have to open the door <v Speaker 1>on demand, and that was clearly added after the first changing. <v Speaker 1>I'm sorry you can hear change in sound. I don't <v Speaker 1>know what I was trying to say there. So then <v Speaker 1>we have George Steele stomping Bruno on the mat as <v Speaker 1>Monsoon says, everyone knows that George Steele doesn't have both <v Speaker 1>ars in the water. And then Sammartino is starting to <v Speaker 1>build back up to his feet, staggering out of the <v Speaker 1>corner and uh, George Steele keeps straying and striking his <v Speaker 1>head as if but it's just not working. It's not <v Speaker 1>working because Simartino is coming back. And here he is. <v Speaker 1>Simartino making his way crouched over, closing in on the animal. <v Speaker 1>He yanks Steel off the ropes and goes off with <v Speaker 1>a series of punches. <v Speaker 7>Uh. <v Speaker 1>He even had a bald spot. Then sot a huge <v Speaker 1>mark against him. Yeah, the kicks going off for Simmartino <v Speaker 1>in the corner on Steel corner to corner, weapon face <v Speaker 1>first into the cage wall, goes George Steele. <v Speaker 4>Uh. <v Speaker 1>He turns around and tries to climb out of the <v Speaker 1>cage and get the fuck away from this rampaging Italian madman, <v Speaker 1>but yanks him down. It is Yeah, he's starting to <v Speaker 1>get the fuck out of there, and that's a it's <v Speaker 1>a rather flee to foot George Steele, not the lumbering, <v Speaker 1>damaged wrestler. We would know later. Yeah, So Seventino yanks <v Speaker 1>him down by the pants and gets in there and <v Speaker 1>should have tried to Okay, they talk about how he <v Speaker 1>shouldn't have caused burnoum all this trouble, and George Steele <v Speaker 1>is rammed into the steel rod, not just the fencing, <v Speaker 1>but one of the poles. <v Speaker 2>Right, yes, right in the corner there, yep. <v Speaker 1>And again the post in the cage. Uh Bruno Simartino <v Speaker 1>signals for the door. He's ready, and you better believe <v Speaker 1>he is. He fucking He basically just takes George Steele <v Speaker 1>and just beats the shit out of him, rams his <v Speaker 1>face into the cage twice, says open the door, walks out. <v Speaker 2>That's the best thing. It's like basically, you you fight <v Speaker 2>in there until you think the other guy's had enough <v Speaker 2>and you'll leave. <v Speaker 1>You're even with style and you're head held high. <v Speaker 2>There's no real like I gotta get out of a cage. <v Speaker 1>Oh diving despiration. <v Speaker 7>No. <v Speaker 1>No, he did the same thing in the cage match <v Speaker 1>against Zibisco that we watched and Hanson too. Hansen, Yep, <v Speaker 1>it's it's so money. Fourteen minutes, thirty four seconds, with <v Speaker 1>flash bulbs going off, Bruno Simbertino dispatches the threat of <v Speaker 1>George the animal Steel all the way back in nineteen <v Speaker 1>seventy in a cage that looks nothing like what we <v Speaker 1>know today. Still an eavyweight champion of the world, and <v Speaker 1>that's our closing. We go right to the dun dundunduns <v Speaker 1>unsun suntans and. <v Speaker 2>Such a weird closing montage it still is weird. <v Speaker 1>Brought to you by Ivard Enterprises and Titan Sports, copyright <v Speaker 1>nineteen eighty six. And we are rolling along here, folks <v Speaker 1>in the Colisseum collection back on the rails in twenty <v Speaker 1>twenty five, along with so much more. We will see <v Speaker 1>you next time. <v Speaker 7>As a tej To Santus production, its contents is intended <v Speaker 7>for private use only.
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