Ty Dolla $ign

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00:00:01 Speaker 1: R and B money, Honey, we are. 00:00:07 Speaker 2: Thanks. 00:00:09 Speaker 1: Take Valotie, we are the authority on. 00:00:14 Speaker 2: All things R and B. 00:00:17 Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen money and miss Tank Valentine and this is the money the authority. 00:00:26 Speaker 3: Come on talking about all. 00:00:28 Speaker 2: Things R and B. 00:00:31 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, don't make dollars, don't It don't make. 00:00:38 Speaker 3: Sense you feel me? 00:00:41 Speaker 4: You know, sometimes you need to make sure that as we are throwing our gifts sometimes and extending our services all over the world in the universe, that there is a reciprocation that something comes back to let us know we are doing a good job. What I'm trying to say is this man has many dollars. Aha, so many dollars. Then he had to put the dollar in his Cockta him, Ladies and gentlemen, our brother be very own. 00:01:21 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, appreciate y'all. Man absolutely sitting next to some legends right now. 00:01:28 Speaker 1: Listen, brother, I'm starting it off like this, nigga, you. 00:01:32 Speaker 2: Cold appreciate you, bro. 00:01:36 Speaker 1: Man, I'm listening to free TC all I hear is Ella I said. 00:01:45 Speaker 2: Man. Shout out to everybody involved on that one Chords Battle Cash, James Fauntleroy, Brandy, the Homies, D n D. 00:02:00 Speaker 5: Yeah, Benjamin right with the strings. 00:02:04 Speaker 2: It was a movie. 00:02:06 Speaker 1: Because I'm a right on the strings, disrespectful. 00:02:12 Speaker 3: Do your google, do your Googles. 00:02:16 Speaker 1: And I'm just sitting there listening to it, like because I'm an intro guy. I'm an I'm an intro interlude song like when you do those kinds of things. I'm listening to see what you're doing because I come from the jo to see you understand what I'm saying. I come from DeVante swang with inter losing intros are everything that right there, My brother, I. 00:02:41 Speaker 3: Appreciate you now you aren't fucking around. You were sucking around, and that we're gonna're gonna start off here right because we're gon We're gonna just we're gonna say it. I know y'all be talking about here rapper. This man is an R and B singer. I don't fuck what nobody I know. I know he was on the Freshman double Lex hel cover, which are you the only singer that might have ever got that? 00:03:08 Speaker 5: That same year it was me in August. I was seen that. 00:03:12 Speaker 2: Wow. 00:03:14 Speaker 5: Okay, yeah man, Okay, so they didn't have some R and B shit on there. 00:03:18 Speaker 3: But they throw you in this category of being a rapper. It's just it's just because I look like this. I woke up like this, You feel me? Do you think do you think that's what it is though? Do you think it's because of the content. 00:03:32 Speaker 5: It's the content. It's because I look like this. 00:03:34 Speaker 2: But it's always melody and everything I've ever dropped, and there's never been like a mono tone type. You know, there's many people I can name, but it's it's I've never rapped. If you really like pay attention, you can't find one verse where it's rapped. 00:03:50 Speaker 1: It's all saying yeah, is it because they don't know where to put you? 00:03:54 Speaker 2: Yeah, Because it's like when I came in the game, R and B was like, it never was like what I was doing, you know what I mean. There's other people that kind of tapped in, but never just as far as I was at with it with the lyrics and the content and shit. 00:04:12 Speaker 5: So they had to kind of make a new thing for me. But people kept it in hip hop, and then there. 00:04:16 Speaker 2: Was more after me, like absolutely absolutely, you know the same kind of thing talking crazy but with melody. 00:04:24 Speaker 1: You know, because I just don't think people truly understand how gifted you are. You know what I mean, just as they may try to, because I think putting you in a rap category really diminishes all of the gifts that you have, like you are, you are all things. You can walk in that lab by yourself and get it completely done, and that's not what's talked about enough. 00:05:01 Speaker 2: Yeah, I appreciate you for saying that, bro, real deal. Lately, I've been getting into this streaming world and ship. I got a twitch and it's a twitch last Ti Dollar Sign. Yeah, yeah, I got a fitch as well with you know how they say fenced to. I got just like the studio one too, if you know, you know. But I'm glad for that platform because people now get to see It's like like you said, people try to be like, oh, I didn't know you could play keys. I didn't know you played guitar, you play bass, I didn't know you make beats. 00:05:36 Speaker 5: I didn't know you do this. 00:05:37 Speaker 3: I didn't know. 00:05:38 Speaker 5: I didn't even know you sing. 00:05:39 Speaker 2: Like that, which is crazy to me because it's like, if you've ever been to a Tie Dollar Sign show, you would know, and so many people have been, and so many people have put it online, but somehow there's this confusion or this narrative that I'm the rap guy. 00:05:54 Speaker 5: But thank you for saying that, bro, because I'm so far from that. 00:05:59 Speaker 1: And and so I think we can even we can even start there, like we can even go go back to where it was. It was you the musician, Yeah, playing Forreure. 00:06:16 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's one of the guys. He was one of the guys. He was you know, I mean, he was one of the cats. 00:06:24 Speaker 2: Man, you're playing like this is not so you just I just seen Tank at the Brandy Monica show. So I was telling whoever I was with that day, like nah Me and Brandy go back back back. I'm talking about tour. I was nine years old, Brandy and y J was singing backgrounds. I was playing keys. Uh premature, you feel me. Shout out to all the guys, Shout out to Chris and them. It was a lesson, you know what I'm saying. From early it was. It was it was like smoking weed for the first time. 00:06:56 Speaker 3: They were nine. 00:06:57 Speaker 5: I was nine years old blood playing keys. 00:07:00 Speaker 3: Nine year old keyboard player is insane. 00:07:03 Speaker 5: But then people don't know I'll play keys. 00:07:04 Speaker 1: But you gotta understand something, right, You got understand something like I saw I saw Immature in concert in the kid band I saw. I was there Baltimore Arena, right, and I'm like, I'm not saying to watch No Kids before. 00:07:20 Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, tripping. 00:07:21 Speaker 1: I mean, I like their music and everything, but I'm not gonna stay and watch No Kids Before them Like my my little girl group reformed, I'm gonna get on out of here. My cars blocked in, I can't leave. I'm say I'm staying checking out. Niggas went crazy. It's like I had never seen. I was like from real superstarshit, from the band, to the dancers, to them, the performance. 00:07:47 Speaker 3: Everything. 00:07:48 Speaker 1: I was like, Oh, this is another It's another level. Like at the time, I had a singing group, gospel group. We used to we used to go around DC, Maryland, Virginia go crazy. I said, I I was watching that show to. 00:08:01 Speaker 5: Hear some of that he was going. 00:08:02 Speaker 1: I was going dumb. I was running every note, every every word, every word. I couldn't get it together. But as I'm watching, as I'm watching this this Immature show, I'm like, man, we were in our twenties. No, we're nineteen twenty. We're dope. We're fired. We can't follow them. We can't follow nothing they're doing. Our band ain't like THEIRS, our sound ain't like THEIRS, Our our show isn't like THEIRS. I'm talking like, I don't think people understand the level that immature was on. From top to bottom. 00:08:42 Speaker 2: It was pro shit. 00:08:45 Speaker 1: At nine years old, it was pro shit. 00:08:49 Speaker 5: That was that dude, Chris Stokes man, he had he had his ship together, he had the vision. 00:08:54 Speaker 1: So how do you even get that call at not My dad was. 00:08:58 Speaker 5: Homies with him. Basically. 00:08:59 Speaker 2: My dad had this store right here on Santa Monica and Vine Nadine's right. 00:09:06 Speaker 5: Next to Paramount. 00:09:07 Speaker 3: Yeah, and. 00:09:09 Speaker 2: Everybody used to come through there from the Easy Ease or Gee, anybody from that time, and Chris Stokes was one of them, and uh, you know, some producing ship and they was producing together. And one day my pops was like, yo, you should try out for this band that they got going on. So I tried out playing keys. Next thing you know, I'm on fucking solo training at the time. 00:09:32 Speaker 3: I'm on our. 00:09:32 Speaker 2: Senio Hall show, Nigga all the you know, the ship at the time. So it was a crazy experience. It definitely, like I said, it was like for me smoking weed for the first time and just loving it, you know. And now I'm just just been chasing that that ship. 00:09:50 Speaker 1: But you but you start you started in church. 00:09:53 Speaker 2: Nah, just started right there because your dad, My dad was in the lakeside and. 00:09:58 Speaker 5: He was another boy. 00:10:00 Speaker 1: When did you start playing keys? 00:10:01 Speaker 3: Though? 00:10:03 Speaker 2: Right then? Like really from when I was fourt you my pops is like he said, when I was four years old, he was putting together Jermaine Jackson show like on some m D. 00:10:15 Speaker 5: Ship Wow, and like that for real and it's crazy. 00:10:20 Speaker 2: He said. He went to the bathroom one time after trying to learn this part, and all of a sudden he just hears the melody play he walks out his knee just by ear at four years old. 00:10:30 Speaker 5: So I've been on it. 00:10:32 Speaker 1: Wow, you know. 00:10:33 Speaker 3: I'm coming back like I don't know. 00:10:34 Speaker 2: Side man. 00:10:38 Speaker 1: We did a show and in Cincinnati together we almost got arrested, almost got arrested. 00:10:51 Speaker 3: I incited a riot. 00:10:53 Speaker 5: That's crazy. 00:10:54 Speaker 1: So they had you know how they have like in the park when you do the big shows in the park, they'll have like this v P set with the little lawn chairs out and that's like twenty yards and then they have the fence with the general population did. The VIP wasn't giving me then, and I'm out there and they screaming, going crazy. But they too far. I said, listen, if you're my real fans, I need y'all to jump them fences and get up. 00:11:19 Speaker 4: No, they jumped the fences, baby, they came to see up player the fire marshals. 00:11:27 Speaker 5: But I know a lot of us artists have took that same opportunity. 00:11:32 Speaker 2: They too far. 00:11:34 Speaker 1: I got a fill of people and you know the fire martial trouble. Yeah, I did many shows side. 00:11:40 Speaker 5: You ever stage dive before? 00:11:42 Speaker 2: Have these stage before? 00:11:44 Speaker 1: I've never stage dived because I was on tour with the King of stage DIVINGE Wow, genuine. So my stage diving was part of security going to get him with stage dive every show. 00:12:03 Speaker 3: Imagine stage diving at the fast. He's the only nigga I know who's ever done that. 00:12:10 Speaker 2: He's we're talk of black people at the House of Blues because I learned it's like certain things you could do with white crowds and certain things you can't. 00:12:20 Speaker 1: You know, black people going like like going out throwing water and. 00:12:28 Speaker 2: Hot No. Man, we must have did that ship in New Orleans one time. Brother, Then they have to fight the whole club and ship. It was crazy. 00:12:36 Speaker 1: You gotta understand, at this time, Genuine is he's you know, he's he's Jesus. Yeah, at this time, this is ninety seven Jesus and he's jumping out into that crowd and they are tearing him to pieces. He's trying to sing Pony in the crowd. 00:13:01 Speaker 2: Floor. 00:13:05 Speaker 1: It's all you hear, all you hear. And the security guys are too big to get in to move the ladies around to so here comes Little on me. At this time, I'm like one fifty five, one sixty and I'm just you know. So you see me with Genuine on my shoulder walking back to the stage. No, I never wanted to stage dive ever. Again, I watched him do it. I watched him get sued. 00:13:38 Speaker 3: A lot of shit to come along with a lot of ship. 00:13:41 Speaker 1: I watched them Terra's closed, I washed them, scratches back in his face, everything Jewelry. I said, no, sir, Yeah, so you staged though. 00:13:52 Speaker 2: I used to stage dive, and then I've seen one of the homies get sued for stage diving, and I never did it again because I noticed it's just like that one point where the artistry goes to another level. 00:14:04 Speaker 5: Niggas be looking at. 00:14:06 Speaker 3: See where said dive. I'm sewing where the up? But you know what you have? 00:14:13 Speaker 1: You also like you got that type of music. As we talk about how talented you are in this musical space, you also have those those pockets and zones that you go into that lend to that mosh pit. You know what I'm saying, Like, sometimes I get beside myself. So I'm just telling you. If I was on stage with you and you went into one of those records and it and it looked it looked good out there. 00:14:35 Speaker 3: If it looked caucas nigga, is that what that was? 00:14:39 Speaker 2: That? 00:14:39 Speaker 1: Where you go with this kind of if it looks white niggas, I'm actual permission, first, sure you mind if I get a little bit of that you go into one of them bonds and I just can't help myself. 00:14:53 Speaker 2: I definitely gotta ask. Now see this on camera? Yeah, actual, So I can't sue me. 00:15:08 Speaker 1: So give me the journey in so many words, from we already went from fort nine, from for to nine. You're okay, So you're you're already You're already gifted, You're already gifted from God. We got that, Like, you're a child prodigy. How do you get from nine to you know, being a pure musician and learning all these things from tour and performance and all of these things to tie dollar sign? 00:15:38 Speaker 2: There we go. 00:15:39 Speaker 5: So from nine. 00:15:43 Speaker 3: There was like. 00:15:45 Speaker 2: This one point where my dad was like, oh, you got to back off of this immature shit. It was some shit going on. Mm So I started my own groups. I got a group with my brother and just a home and then we ended up not doing that. And then one of my my dad and them find this girl and then it's me, my brother and this girl in the group. Her name was in a helica shout out to her and her family. We did that group for a while, never ended up getting a deal. And then I'm just back in school. I got to finish middle school, I gotta finish high school, and uh, just growing up in LA. It's like all right, yeah, you're coming from that, but then it's La, you know what I'm saying. And uh at my high school, my first high school I went to was Hamilton. So at this school that's school music academy. By the time I'm in like what eleventh grade, I meet this little nigga name O Marion, Right, Oh, is uh going to my school? He just like a homie that always comes up dancing and shit and rapping. He used to like freestyle, but niggas never knew he sung. All of a sudden, I don't see this nigga no more. He used to come to the house we record. Everybody knew I made beats and shit like that, but I wasn't like on the singing shit so much. 00:17:09 Speaker 1: No more. 00:17:10 Speaker 2: After these groups, I was more so all right becoming an la, you know, high schooler. 00:17:15 Speaker 5: But I'm making beasts. 00:17:16 Speaker 3: That's what I do. 00:17:17 Speaker 5: I'm pulling the bitches. Oh, disappear me Nipsey. Nipsey's at the school too, a couple other hommies. Blah blah blah blah. 00:17:26 Speaker 2: Next thing, you know, this group come out of nowhere, be two k with the same crew that I was immature in them, right, but oh. 00:17:36 Speaker 5: Never we never had these commerce. I never even knew he sung. 00:17:39 Speaker 2: None of that shit. Right, they should just blow out the water. But I still got that bug. And me like, I'm like, I can't wait, you know, to my ship. So fast forward, fast forward when I'm like eighteen, and I get out of high school somehow, Oh, through my pops again. 00:18:01 Speaker 5: I get home to my apartment. 00:18:02 Speaker 2: I have my own apartment at this time, and when I get there, it's this dude in my apartment named John Lampkin, who's this drummer, and my dad let him. I don't know he must let him in. My shit, I don't even know how that nigga got into my apartment to this day. Oh why, I didn't do nothing to him, but we end up chopping it up. He was listening to my music. He was like, oh, that shit your dad played. If your shit is crazy, da da da, I want to introduce you to one of my peoples. So he introduces me to this guy named Kamara Campbell. Kamara was working at Virgin Records. He was also the guy that was producing with Doctor Dre at the time. Eminem my name is Mary J. Blige, So he started introducing me to all those people signed me. I guess the deal fell through over there at Virgin, but he's still putting me into scoring movies and shit. So he's scoring movies at the time and like including me. Some shit called Havana Nights, some shit called Biker Boys, some ship called the cookout clean Latifa, and you can hear my old music in there, like before I was tied out signed. 00:19:08 Speaker 3: Right, are you singing on those songs? 00:19:10 Speaker 2: So yeah, it's just my songs at the time, like the songs I had. After that, we end up stopped working and ship whatever the deal fell through. He wasn't getting paid no more, so he didn't have no more money for me. So uh, I go back to the drawing board. I'm just working, working, working, working, working all the time to where I met this guitar center right here on Sunset. I meet this dude name et Cetera. I'm like just making beats on the keyboards. Me and the homies used to just going there and just start sequencing on the keyboards and ship. 00:19:44 Speaker 5: Hopefully somebody hear me, nigga. 00:19:47 Speaker 3: The guitar center is like La Fitness for hoopers exactly. Yes, yeah, for the musicians, you can always and you can always find a cold young nigga in a guitar center. 00:19:58 Speaker 2: And it's probably right now. But meet this dude name Etcetera who's hearing the beats. He started rapping and ship. I'm like, yo, come out to the car. I'm gonna play some more. Shit he played me. I mean, I play him some ship he rapp and he's like, oh, whenever you come to New York, hit me up. At the same time with I meet some other dudes out there named Randy and all them who bring me out to New York. While I'm in New York, somehow I meet the g Unit dudes. I'm going over there playing them beats, just like, uh, you know, just meet motherfuckers are I was moving as a producer for real. When I get to Etcetera's crib, he got this dude over there named Corey. Corey's like this dude from Brooklyn with a tone damn near exactly like Raphael Sadik, right. So me and him just like start making songs. Next thing you know, we made a whole tape together. Somehow we got to Utah Salt Lake City Sundance Film Festival. Et Cetera convinced us to go out there because you can meet some producers or directors and maybe get the shit in some films. Yeah, so we go out there. We meet this other dude named pasy Peasy do we Man, But he got a studio in his crib. So we started hanging out with this guy all the time. Next thing, you know, we end up in Utah for months, nigga Like, I'm just out there, bro, So back and forth from Utah to New York and shit five, my daughter is born. I'm still doing you know projects with Corey. Next thing, you know, me and Corey somehow meet this guy named Venus Brown. Venus Brown is connected to Justin Timberlake and where I Am. They end up signing us to a situation with the Time Corey thing. We end up making volume two of the mixtapes that we were making. One day, Corey came to me, he was like, Man, this shit don't work this time, Bro, I got to move back to New York. I'm like, damn bro for real. Like yeah, I'm like all right, bro, well we're gonna try to push through, you feel me. Because of Justin and and will I Am, We're meeting all these different people, We're getting features from everybody doing all this different shit. Same time, I met the homies from Saurai Creative partners, Tazarnod, shafiqu O Mas and I'm playing for them same time, like making beats. They're the first people to ever give me a feature. Time Corey feature on them. Their project came out on a vinyl. I'm like, oh, we're on a vinyl. Now, digget like all type of shit. So it's that time where Corey's like, you know what I gotta go. You know it's not working. Next thing, you know, my big homie from my hood, Big b He's like, Yo, I got this kid that you need to meet. He from Bompton. He running the streets right now. Like, I'm telling you you need to work with them. This is what my space is popping. I listened to the music and I'm not fucking with it. It's like the song called Shia Model, this song called I forgot the rest of the song names, but the artist's name was YG right and it was jerk music because that's what was popping in LA at the time. So they come through and Mustard was like the DJ. YG had a whole crew called Pushing, a whole bunch of people from LA from all different hoods, like all across the city, and we end up throwing like a party at my ball in Hills House. And when we throw the party, Mustard put on this song called Geeked Up by dfo L. And when I'm hearing it. Everybody get up, all the girls go crazy, everybody start working on you know what I'm saying all the shit, and I'm just like, why is this? Why is this connecting like that? And I'm studying the beat and it's just like drums only and vocals, and I'm like, all right, jerk music, down South music? What all? 00:24:05 Speaker 5: Okay? 00:24:05 Speaker 2: The snap, the eight of waight, the high hat, that all right, let me make something like this. Next morning, we going through records and shipped me and my homie chords and we come across this sample and we sample it. We do a whole bunch of sampling the next morning after that, I threw the drums and the beat ends up being tutored in Bud. It's me on the song doing the hook. My cousin TC forty eight hundred with a verse y G comes through. Fucking this is the second song we ever made. It wasn't my favorite song that I ever made, because, like I said, I just came from working with fucking Timberlake, will O Amos R and b Shit, meeting niggas like fucking Benjamin Wright and all the best of the best of the best, right, and then this song right here is a song that just gets us on fire, and we start having shows and. 00:24:55 Speaker 1: We get our first doing with the song, like you got the song. 00:24:58 Speaker 5: I got the song in that stuff first. 00:25:00 Speaker 2: This is the first time because like I said, I'm doing songs all these people in Hollywood and the big artists, but this is the first time. 00:25:08 Speaker 5: It's like, Oh, let's go do this party. Let's go, let's go to. 00:25:11 Speaker 2: This little party right here. 00:25:12 Speaker 3: It's like twenty ten to right. 00:25:14 Speaker 2: Two thousand and nine, twenty ten, and we're going and doing the motorcycle clubs, we're doing hood days, We're doing like all the little shit in the main LA, not Hollywood. Then and then we might go out to fucking Orange County and we might go out to wherever just wants to book the shit. Because the jerk shit was booming and there was parties and it was connecting, and I started to do more beats, and I started to do beats for the whole push in and like yg end up going to jail. And then me and Joe Moses was connecting like tough, and I did this song for him called go Bitch, and that was just like piggybacking off of the two of them Buddha, and we were just doing all these little shows toil next thing, you know, Hollywood called I think it was called Club Kiss or some shit, and they was gonna give YG ten thousand to come perform, and he gave me four hundred to come do the Hook and gave Mustard four hundred to DJ. And once I seen him walk away with that stack, I'm like, oh shit, nigga, I'm about to take this artistic serious nigga and make my own shit. I make this project called House on the Hill. I'll bring it to his same person that signed him, Max Goose. Shout out to Max. But they end up letting Max Goose go from dev Jam and they hired Karen Quack. So I'll bring it to Karen Quack. Shout out to Karen Quack. And I played the House on the Hill and she says, Man, you're really fucking good, bro like, but let me be honest with you. 00:26:40 Speaker 5: You're all over the place. 00:26:41 Speaker 2: You got a fucking R and B record, you got some like turned up shit, you got some house music on here. You got this because like you said in the beginning, bro, I can tap into all the different things. But she was like, yo, just just make me one project is fully cohesive, right, and I swear to God that would changed my life. I went and I made Beach House one, and it was more just like all me on the bees, me and my homie in a three D and uh more slow R and B shit, but still talking that shit. And then that's the first thing that finally caught on. That's when I had my cabana. Fast forward twenty twelve. I won't even talk about the other one. There was some other song that I put out where I sampled Swedish House Mafia and the fucking radio station started to play it, and I'm even getting booked in Phoenix and Texas and all this shit off of this song. 00:27:36 Speaker 5: It was called All Star. And then I ended up getting a ceased disease. 00:27:40 Speaker 3: And this is I knew that was coming. I think said sweet House Mafia, like. 00:27:45 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, So they gave me this season desist and I had to take that down, but the Beach House started working. I had that song my cabana. Then I ended up getting a season desist from that because I had a screwl likes and z tample in there, and I just remade the beat on fruity loops and myself and replayed everything and Young Jeezy featured on it. Then I got my first deal, but it wasn't because of that song. I got my deal with Atlantic because I made this song called Fumble, and Fumble was supposed to be on Beach House one, but somehow it got in the hands of Trey's Songs, and Trey's Songs cut it, put it out, ended up being one of the best songs on his album at the time. And then from there, wait but you didn't even know. I didn't even know it was going to him at first, but then they called me last minute, like, oh, he's going to put it out. 00:28:36 Speaker 5: Da da da dah. What you want to do with this flit? Who's all on it? D D I'm like, fuck it, let him get it. 00:28:42 Speaker 2: And that's what gave Sean Baron the power with Aaron Bayshuk to be like, Yo, sign this kid, because we were already going to Mike Karen, and Mike Karen was trying to like sign it to his side. Shit, he wasn't trying to sign me to Atlantic. And when he brought me in the office, he told me, man, you're really good Ty. You just like the way your position right now. It's like you're like the West Coast baby bash and I didn't know what you meant by that, But then he met like local, and I was like, I took offense to that because I'm like Nigga, I make everything, Bro, My shit ain't no like local West Coast shit. I'm not a rapper like what Nigga. So luckily shout out to Mike Kronol because like a lot of the things he said, maybe me who I am today too, Like one of his quotes was, I don't I don't want to be or I don't have to be the first one to do it. I just want to be the best one to do it. Like keep me saying shit like that like that just fully like changes my whole outlook. But fucking yeah, Aaron Bayshuck and Sean barn made that shit happen twenty twelve, and I've been on Atlantic ever since, and that's how we got here today. Man, It's just been like those hurdles though, you know what I mean, like immature all the way. 00:29:55 Speaker 3: So when they finally clicks right and you get your deal and you start to start seeing some bread, do you do the musician ship and do you buy more equipment and buy a studio? Do you do the nigga shit. 00:30:10 Speaker 2: Like for you? 00:30:11 Speaker 3: What was like? What was your I'm successful now purchase all right. 00:30:17 Speaker 2: So when I was eighteen and I had the Kamara situation, I had already bought a car. Okay, I got shit like that and then lost shit, fucking had car accidents, had apartments, lost shit. Then I had to live with girls do all that shit. Then fucking when I got with Venus in them and will and uh justin, I ended up getting another car. I ended up getting the crib, still living with girls, off and on. But I got the Boodha brown chain nigga. A fat ass chained me and Corey got the chain. So I'm having a house nigga, I'm having BMW, I'm having as chains and when YG and them see me, I'm the nigga. They got the big ass got the chain like, oh this nigga is so everybody looking up to me type ship and then uh, nigga money was going down to where I had the house nigga, but my mother fucking water cut off you know, my home cossole recipes at the time ended up giving me a couple couple of dollars. You what I'm saying to turn the lights back on type ship. 00:31:28 Speaker 6: I went through all that, you know, and uh it's the music business kids, you know, absolutely you have all that ship like you know, but uh I was able to, you know, push to and get to hear bro I did not realize that it was. 00:31:48 Speaker 1: It feels like you've been around forever. Nah, for sure, it really feels like that, because I mean I start two thousand, but I guess the the way you've impacted things, it just it just it just feels massive. 00:32:05 Speaker 3: As the forty would call it. You have been a fixture. Yeah, for sure, you know what I'm saying, especially me being from the bar Areer, right, so I got to I got to see it. Yeah, you know what I mean. And being in l A at the time, but like being from the Bay and understanding, like you said, you get that record cracking and you're doing the motorcycle clubs, you're doing four or five clubs in one night in the hood and different places like we have a different type of independence within California when we you know, we do that Saint Louis Obispo, we do that. Baker's field, we do the you know what I mean, our rest nose and in between then get up to the bear or get back to LA. So I got to see it, especially when the booty cracked off for y'all because they loved YG in the Bay. Yeah, I want to say we probably fucked with Ygi heavier than anybody else in the beginning for sure, Like the Bay was like, oh yeah. 00:32:56 Speaker 5: That was our biggest, our first arena. 00:33:00 Speaker 3: Because for us, you guys in our mind, whereas an extension of Hiphi, yeah nah, to us, it was the same shit, you know what I'm saying, because we had had the Hiphee movement four oh five and you know what I mean, all those records that were coming out, and then what you guys did with it, to me was smarter because y'all chose to go do deals. Yeah. I literally like listen, Me and Keith the Sneak had this conversation where Kick was like, Jay, they came to the Bay looking for me, and I jumped out the car. I was like, what do you mean you jumped out the car? He said, I was so scared of the next level that we're riding stretch of tel you know, stretch Stretcher tell you this, jay I jumped out the car. I did not want to meet with him. I wanted to stay independent in my mind. I had this independent mindset that we've always built in the Bay Area, right, this whole thing. And I always preach to people because I'd be talking about, you know, the p is major. You're not making superstars independently. It's just it's just the reality. And people have to start realizing that. And if they can start naming me independent superstars, I'll agree. 00:34:13 Speaker 5: It's just the way that ships set up, set up before you started. 00:34:16 Speaker 3: It's way too many things that are already in place. 00:34:18 Speaker 2: You live in a fucking tax paying society, My nigga, you feel me. You gotta you gotta check in somebody. You gotta check in somebody every type of business, you know what I'm saying, Whether you want to tap into the alcohol, you want to tap into music, you want to type in the fucking food industry, clothing industry, it's already fucking set. 00:34:37 Speaker 3: It's already set. And that's something that to me, So you can have a big percentage understood that y'all understand page something, y'all win. Did these major label deals and got super popping, you know what I'm saying. So I watched it happen, bro, But they also maintained their hustle too, absolutely. 00:34:58 Speaker 1: With that major that. 00:35:00 Speaker 3: Machine, with that machine behind it. 00:35:02 Speaker 7: Yeah. 00:35:02 Speaker 2: So to answer the question, like, I did some nigga shit before, but you know, luckily I had a different mistakes to get to a point where, all right, once I got this house that I've been having for the last ten years, Bro, I was never losing that motherfucker, you feel me. I never went over my means and started like doing dumb shit. 00:35:24 Speaker 3: So you didn't have the Ferrari that you left at the airport and forgot that the Ferrari was the Hey, niggas be telling those stories. I'm like, come on, bro, you're floss and it's just too crazy, bro. But but it's par for the core. 00:35:37 Speaker 1: If you really do this ship in your ledger back, there are repossessions, there are full closure water bills, water all of that ship. Yeah, like that's just what this is. And I tell people, you gotta really love this ship because the ups and downs that come with it. If it ain't love, if it ain't rooted in that, if it ain't rooted in I can't do nothing else. This should break you. For sure, you'll be you'll be doing something regular because this ain't. This is not regular. This is not for the regular minded individual. You gotta be out of your fucking. 00:36:21 Speaker 3: Mind to do what we do. What do y'all signed? I always this is a random thing. I think for myself and I get to ask y'all, what do you? What do you when you have to sign occupation? Does that ever fuck with you? When you sign? And like, you know, just different ship, your tax is different thing. That's like, what's your occupation? I never really know what the fuck to put entertaining? 00:36:46 Speaker 2: But is that a job? I'll be putting boxer anywhere I go when people be like coming up to me and ship, so I know, are you what do you do? 00:36:59 Speaker 5: I'm a boxer? 00:37:00 Speaker 3: Yeah right here with don't brought that? That moment always feels funny. I always feel like what happened? Question? It's like, I love we are. 00:37:16 Speaker 1: We are completely in a very very unique space because we are independent contractors and none of this is guaranteed, and even with contracts, even with contracts, I got my first apartment with my contract. But listen, that's what I showed them. Even with contracts, you may get that front end, but the rest of that money in that contract, no matter who signed. 00:37:46 Speaker 7: It, it's not guaranteed to you. Where's the rest of my fucking money. We all sign this, the president signed it. Well, you know things aren't going That's not what the contract says. Wow says, I give you these songs and you give me my money. He's had this moment, he's re living it. 00:38:10 Speaker 1: I'm losing my losing my apartment through that. 00:38:15 Speaker 3: Hey this ship, bro, gim me something. 00:38:18 Speaker 1: I'm underslapping my car all that, bro under showered the gems. But there was nothing else I was designed or built to do. This was all or nothing that. 00:38:31 Speaker 5: He fucked me up with the shower at gym's part. 00:38:33 Speaker 1: Bro, Nigga, I know that twenty four hour fitness, I know that life. You gotta keep it clean. 00:38:41 Speaker 3: You gotta put that towel on. They get tricky once you get out and it's kind of wet, and it's like, okay, now niggas be walking with their shoes on right here. 00:38:49 Speaker 1: So I got to put the towel on the floor in the shower. 00:38:54 Speaker 3: Nigga. Hey, bro, this life is not for the week, you got it? 00:38:58 Speaker 2: Not for the week. 00:39:08 Speaker 1: Okay, get me to free TC. 00:39:11 Speaker 2: Get me to that free Tcuh? Was that thirteen or fourteen? I think it was thirteen. 00:39:20 Speaker 3: Fourteen. I think it came out in fifteen. Really yeah, dropping fifteen? 00:39:25 Speaker 2: Damn well shit. Uh, so Beach House one came out. I don't know if Beach House two came out before Freeze. 00:39:33 Speaker 5: I think he did. 00:39:35 Speaker 2: I'm just pushing, pushing, pushing, pushing, pushing, and then finally it was that time. Why because I had songs that blew up so paranoid. I felt like it was the first So low, that's my ship out of here, tie dollars on record? 00:39:53 Speaker 1: Hit who of my bitch man? And they know about it, know about each other? 00:40:01 Speaker 5: That is a cold I say, inspiration supper club. 00:40:05 Speaker 1: I know. 00:40:07 Speaker 3: I had my thirty fifth birthday there man with a with a Magnum bottle. My brother got it was this tall ship he was cooking. 00:40:22 Speaker 5: I was really a superate club. Really had two of my business and club. 00:40:26 Speaker 2: So uh. The next day I went and I had this apartment right here in East Hollywood, Edgemont was the street nigga right next to the Kaiser on top of the hill. Overlooking the whole city. I thought I was on, but uh, this is after. This is after having my little studio right here off of Cosmo. I don't know if y'all know Cosmo. That's like right by Vine in between Kuwenga's the street right after Kowenga so Got where Atlantic used to be was on Kowanga. But before that, back in the day, my dad was signed to so Large, which was right the exact spot. 00:41:07 Speaker 5: And then after that death Ro was there, and uh my dad used to play on all the Deathro ship. 00:41:12 Speaker 2: So I was in the building there too, and after that was the Underdogs we exactly we were there before. Yeah, the history that next they bought that motherfucker too, maybe bought that at that time too. 00:41:27 Speaker 5: I remember the face was right there. 00:41:29 Speaker 2: So on the next street was this this street called Cosmo, and they had these little studios in there where you could get one for like two hundred a month type ship. It's like one little small glass room and everybody got small rooms. And then it's the shared bathroom in the hallway. You've ever been in one of them type of spots. Absolutely, motherfuckers used to shower in there to niggas take a little hole baths nigga with the little rag with the sink and you just get you some deodorant from the right eight anyway. Uh, I was sleeping in that motherfucker you feel me before where I was able to stack up some bread and go half with Parker, the same peasy, the same one that was in Utah. 00:42:06 Speaker 5: So is this after Tudor Boody, this attitude and bro you like me? 00:42:10 Speaker 8: Yeah? 00:42:11 Speaker 2: I said, like yeah, like really like Tudor Booty was my song, but I gave it to yg because depth Jam wanted to give him the deal. I wasn't really having like that. I just produced the song. What they give us for that song probably about three thousand dollars and I split it with the homie like yeah, anyway, Uh, fucking I was able to get this apartment East Hollywood and I had the little set up in the living room. Paranoid was the third song I made on that beat from fucking with niggas like Mike Karen, he would have you make seventeen songs to one beat, So I was like keeping that same energy and uh. The third song I made to this to that beat was Paranoid and shout out to Mustard Man from there, I feel like we like he's the whole game and absolutely, and he became the biggest producer in the world and our sound just took over. And uh after that, you know, I just kept on making songs. People want to features all this. Uh me and Wiz we end up teaming up. I signed a Taylor game management Wiz and Will and they've moved me around you on that tour. Yeah, I'm opening opening up for Wiz. You know, they taking me everywhere. They really like open the touring game for me for sure. 00:43:30 Speaker 3: And uh. 00:43:33 Speaker 2: Fucking one night we go to record Plant rest in Peace, which is one of the best studios in LA. We said rest in Peace because it's not there no more Record Plan. 00:43:43 Speaker 1: Record Plan is gone since when that. 00:43:45 Speaker 5: Ship been gone. 00:43:47 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah record Black, Yeah. 00:43:49 Speaker 5: Super terrible. 00:43:50 Speaker 2: But you know the studio right on the left when you go in, you know, the first one on the left. Were in there for a Whiz session and I'm in there with all the homies. We make a song called or Nah and this is for wizard Ship. But since Paranoid blows up Atlantic, it's like, yo, you need to drop like a little project. Let's do an EP so I'm putting together the project and I'm like, yo, is, let me just put this one on my ship. Bro. I put that ship on my shoes and that was the next one to blow up. Now, haven't announced it everywhere, but we're just gonna announce it right here on R and B Money. There's not a lot of niggas that can say they got one of these, but now I got one, motherfuckers. And that's called a diamond record. Because Dimond Nigga shout out to Mustard, shout out to the Weekend. 00:44:40 Speaker 3: We did that. Niggas don't know what diamond that's Crean. Yeah, that plaq's gonna look crazy. 00:44:45 Speaker 2: Ten. 00:44:46 Speaker 3: I can't wait till the only nig I knew growing up who had that, obviously Michael Jackson. I'm playing like that a human right was MC hammer? 00:44:56 Speaker 2: Wow? Yep, mc Hammer. 00:44:58 Speaker 3: When you would walk into Capitol Building, they used to have hammers diamond plaques in there back in the day. Like when he kept the lights on it, that motherfucker diamond. He did diamond twice, Wow, and it just it looked unreal. 00:45:14 Speaker 2: Well, this is my second one too. You got to now, Yeah, because me and post Malona is diamond of course, of course, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, well that happened. So shout out to wiz Man, Like I always got to say, whiz the goat of all goats. 00:45:32 Speaker 3: Just the coolest nigga. 00:45:33 Speaker 2: That's what I want to say. I feel like a lot of people think you gotta be this asshole to be an artist, and he is not. He's not, and it is number one in the world or whatever the fuck is going on at the time. He's the same guy, always nice to everyone. 00:45:50 Speaker 3: And he's gonna try to give you be like them. Is it Bombay? Yeah, that nigga tried to get I was like, I'm not drinking that. 00:45:57 Speaker 5: They glad you didn't, Bro. I resonly went to the doctor and they told me I had a fucking tumor on my liver. 00:46:02 Speaker 3: Bro what what? 00:46:03 Speaker 2: Yeah? 00:46:04 Speaker 5: I went through a lot of Bombay bottles. 00:46:06 Speaker 2: Kids. 00:46:07 Speaker 5: Fuck alcohol, I know, I got my my Uh lebon Jean. If you're going to celebrate, celebrate with us, fuck alcohol? 00:46:20 Speaker 2: Who edit that. 00:46:22 Speaker 1: You love alcohol? Right? What is it called again? 00:46:25 Speaker 2: It's called lebana Jean? Uh good money? Yeah, champagne is the best taste in champagne in the world. Make sure you celebrate with us at your next celebration. We also got the whiskey lebon A Jean And if you're in a whiskey or scotch, I'm sure you would love that. We're doing tastings all around the world, so you know, make sure you pull up. But if you just want to pull up and you're one of those people that don't want to drink and your friends just drink, then you like me, nigga, come on, so you don't drink the more very rare, very rare celebrations celebration, Yeah, but you know they are aways. Want to make a celebration for us. Celebration, lunch, celebration, dinner, celebration, club. 00:47:07 Speaker 3: Records every day. That it amazing. That is amazing. 00:47:16 Speaker 1: You touched on something that that I identified early. You know you you and Mustard mm hmm, very very very special connection. 00:47:29 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:47:30 Speaker 1: I to me, you guys don't miss together. Yeah, you don't miss was that when you when you guys established that. 00:47:41 Speaker 2: How like So the craziest, craziest, craziest thing about Mustard, right is when he came to the table, he was a dope ass DJ that just like the little the little nigga that DJ is better than the grown men, right, And that was him. He he wasn't doing beats, he wasn't doing shit, bro. 00:48:02 Speaker 3: We would just. 00:48:03 Speaker 2: Bagging each other clown like, oh, nigga, look at your shirt? Are you fat ass nigga? Fucking old ass niggas. Him and YG were the first people that started that O n conversation. Niggas like way back in two thousand and nine, like calling me, you old ass nigga. You washed you this, you that da da da da, And it's like we never used to do that to our big homies. It was like we always used to listen to it. But then now it's even worse with the younger niggas, like to YG. Now, I see, but fucking I remember it was Mustard and Riches and they would just be talking ship every day and then one day Mustard was like yo, bro, because he would stay over time and just watch and I'm like, damn, he's I wasn't never thinking he was gonna say this. I was just thinking he was gonna be like every other young nigga, just smoke weed and drink and funck with the bitches. But you know, they and then blame you nigga for not you know what I mean, putting them on right, Yeah, But instead he was. 00:49:02 Speaker 5: Like, uh, let me get some sounds, bro. 00:49:05 Speaker 2: I'm like for what he was like, I'm a fuck with this program this reason right, I'm like, all right, So I gave him some sounds, all my drum sounds. Next thing, you know, bro, he's starting to come back with beats and them shit's just slapping like crazy shit and fucking YG did a whole project with him. The ship was working. I did some shit with him, and the ship was working, and it's no better than that, bro, Like, and everything was just organic organic like. 00:49:33 Speaker 5: Wow, like. 00:49:35 Speaker 3: DJ's no, yeah, they know. 00:49:38 Speaker 2: And he started he just learned, Bro, he was watching and he did his own team. He was at first it was like just him making beats and he got with the guy Mike Free at the time, and whoever else. Like, he just kept on putting together his different situations like a real producer. And now he's mustard up today. He one of the greatest to ever fucking do it like a DJ. 00:49:59 Speaker 1: No, he knows. Like when you talk about DJ and clubs and you're talking about holding people's attention and moving them around and then taking them to this level and then bringing them right back here just so you can shoot them up even Like yeah, like that's a science within within itself. But then to know how to create the thing that does it, Yeah, that's mastery on a whole another level. Like I give him credit on a whole nother level too, because it's not just song. It's not just knowing how to manage songs. Now you're managing the creation of the thing that you're gonna plug into that matrix along with these other songs. Yeah, like is a maths scientist, he's a monster. And everything I hear you two do together, I'm like, yeah, touchdown. 00:50:48 Speaker 2: I always remember this one moment where I was coming off for twenty first Street about to make that right on the bread to go towards Hollywood. This is like my grandmother's owdaighborhood, and he was coming in like he was coming from South Little Bret going north to turn right on twenty first to go to my grandmother's house because TC and everybody was over there. We had the studio and he was like, hey, bro, I'm finna pass you up on these beats. I'm like, what do you mean, nigga? He was like, watch Nigga watch because I was always making the beats and he said, this ship to me and in the next week, Nigga Rack City dropped with him. 00:51:27 Speaker 3: From there, Nigga, it was over. 00:51:32 Speaker 2: A week and then from there, Nigga not like us, Nigga, you know what I'm saying. 00:51:38 Speaker 3: Like now, y'all, y'all crew all together, man, and everybody that's come up out of it has just been really successful. And it's dope to see, you know, and everybody have you know, they have their moments where people go different ways, but the fact that y'all you know, have maintained, yeah, that that that connection with each other. Yeah, it's dope to see. It's really really dope to see a. 00:52:03 Speaker 2: Lot of people when got successful in their own ways. But like I just got to always like point out Yg Mustard, but especially Mustard because it's like like I said, they gave Yg the first deal out of all of us, and there was a lot of us that quit. There was a lot of us that fell off, but there's some of us that figured out how to you know, get in where you fit in, you know, and. 00:52:29 Speaker 5: Mustard push a rod. There's a couple of us that. 00:52:35 Speaker 2: That figured it out, you know, and you just got to shout out to people like that because they don't make they don't make people like that every day. 00:52:41 Speaker 7: You know. 00:52:42 Speaker 2: They make a lot of people with excuses and a lot of people that point fingers and shit. But niggas that just like find their space and go all the way. It's like that don't happen every day. 00:52:51 Speaker 1: Yeah, you called first of all, La. We talked about La La. 00:52:55 Speaker 3: Yeah. La is incredible. 00:52:57 Speaker 2: Thank you, Bo. 00:52:58 Speaker 1: That's an incredible record. 00:53:00 Speaker 5: Appreciate that. 00:53:00 Speaker 1: Man. 00:53:01 Speaker 3: I love that record like wholeheartedly. 00:53:02 Speaker 2: Shout out to D and D. They started that one you called Babyface for solid Yeah, yeah, yeah. They told me when I come in here to this podcast that probably one of the things that you would ask me is like top five favorite R and B. Right, And I couldn't like name like my favorite five songs, but or the singer. I'll probably just go to the producers of the times, like how you name fucking Davonte nigga or Teddy or Babyface nigga like I went to the other day. Shout out to Charlie Wilson, one of my favorites ever, invited me to his show at the Hollywood Bowl with. 00:53:46 Speaker 5: Him and Babyface nigga. 00:53:47 Speaker 2: When baby Face got on, it just takes you through all of the journey, baby Face. 00:53:54 Speaker 1: It's crazy journey. 00:53:56 Speaker 3: It's crazy. 00:53:57 Speaker 2: Bro. 00:53:58 Speaker 3: You called baby Face, I called baby Face. 00:54:00 Speaker 2: I had to. I call all my favorite niggas that I ever wanted to work with that I met from. Like I said, the year two thousand when I first started working with Kamara all the way until it was time for Free TC and Babyface. One of them, Man Jagged Edge was on my ship. All the niggas, man R Kelly was on my ship. 00:54:19 Speaker 5: Nigga, Yeah, I said, another one of my favorites. 00:54:21 Speaker 2: Mind too, uhr shout out to man real player ship man. 00:54:32 Speaker 1: Yeah, you nice with it. 00:54:36 Speaker 2: Bro. You know, I almost got fucking canceled before cancel was a thing because of that song, because horses in the stable, because all this guy is. 00:54:45 Speaker 5: Fucking referring to women as horses, this and that, And it wasn't even like that more. 00:54:50 Speaker 2: It was more of a poetic thing if you really like that attention and fucking Tis wrote that song A fucking woman, so suck by dick. Start there. 00:55:00 Speaker 1: It starts there. 00:55:05 Speaker 3: What made you go on the feature and collaborate or was that ever an intention? Was that intentional for you? Especially coming from Cali and obviously Nate Dog and you know the run he had. Yeah, what he's meant to the culture, like that intentional on some. 00:55:24 Speaker 2: Nate Doug ship. And when it started to happen, I started to feel like Lil Wayne mm hmmm, because Little Wayne is who I saw do that, like just be the greatest and then just bless other people's songs and saw some of them bring them to the next level and then sign the biggest artists. 00:55:43 Speaker 5: And then you know, Leon Drake, I feel like, right now. 00:55:51 Speaker 3: We gonna get to We're gonna get to because our favorite you know telling it you literally did a project called featuring you know what I'm saying, Like you really that race. It was like. 00:56:16 Speaker 2: Everybody was like, Oh, he's the future guy, he's the hook guy, he's this guy. But like Tan pointed out, we all know what I do if you really pay attention, but the narratives. 00:56:26 Speaker 3: And you know, I mean listen in this game too, though, the intention is to be a guy. Yeah, So whatever the fuck they want to say, you know what I mean, the niggas all the ship we've done in music, niggas we run up to me like you the podcast Nigga, I am, yeah, I am actually like we've done some cool ship. I'll take that, you know what I'm saying. So I always look at those type of things as that's just sometimes it can be a backhanded compliment in some form of fashion, but for me, it's just like, no, it's still a recognition for you know. 00:57:00 Speaker 1: Good work, because the only way it even becomes a name is if it's successful. 00:57:04 Speaker 3: If it's successful, right, the only. 00:57:05 Speaker 1: Way they even can and and trying to trying to diminish it, it never works, right, it never works. 00:57:13 Speaker 3: It's it's a huge especially when you got the type of gift that you get, you know what I mean, you you just continued the success is just it hasn't stopped for you, bro, Like and even you know, like you said bringing up a leon like now you're a successful label head. Bro, Yeah that does not happen. 00:57:34 Speaker 2: Now, I know, bro, And just like with the music or you know, the artistry part how it started this way and then I thought it was about the boom, and it was like back to square one, and then again you thought it was about to boom. 00:57:48 Speaker 5: You were with even a. 00:57:48 Speaker 2: Bigger situation than back to square one, and then that little situation where you never even think you know is the one that ends up going and uh, same shit bro out and started many record companies along the way and signed many artists, but it was with this one, like during the pandemic, when you don't even know what the fuck is going to happen, and my keyboard player Ali is like, Yo, you should check out this shit. 00:58:12 Speaker 5: Man, I got this artist you might want to hear. I know you're gonna love this shit. 00:58:16 Speaker 2: I'm telling you this is that shit, and he plays me a song called California Cation, which we end up changing the name love Jones, which I ended up doing the feature for the kid and it was going to go on my album, and then it didn't go on my album because I didn't end up dropping, and we ended up signing them because the ship was just so good, and the same guy that signed me to Atlantic, we ended up making a label together. Sean Barrens my guy, fucking Leon came across you know the table, and fucking that was my favorite shit I had ever heard at the time, and it still is to this day, and I believed in it. It fucking had some type of success in the beginning, but the type of success that had the higher upset the label, like, Yo, maybe you want to give him one of them club joints, and maybe you want to put him with this guy and put him with that guy, and da da da da. And I actually called him and told him this information and and then I called him back like minutes later, like I feel like a fucking dickhead. I feel like one of those record company guys. Don't ever let me do that to you, or nobody do that to you. Nigga, I love the shit and there was you love it, and there's gonna be other people that love it. And then the second album, he came back with Mutt, but she stuck to his shit and didn't do no sequences, didn't do no fucking eight a weights, didn't do the shit that everybody else is doing, but stuck to his shit and it fucking worked and it's the best shit. So that's all I would like say to a new artist out there, if y'all ask me, like, Nigga, do you bro and believe in it, because if someone likes it, there's you know what I mean, there's gonna be other people that like. 00:59:52 Speaker 5: If you like it, there's gonna be other people that like it. 00:59:54 Speaker 1: And I gotta tell everybody you know outside of music world that it is something to be a successful artist. 01:00:06 Speaker 3: It is. 01:00:07 Speaker 1: It is something too that there's no joy, no other feeling in the world. And you're going to do well, You're going to make great money, like you're going to do a tour, all these cool things. But it gets different when you break an artist on your label. 01:00:24 Speaker 3: Ship gets different. 01:00:28 Speaker 1: Because you know, we as owners for a very long time understand. 01:00:35 Speaker 3: Being in the black. 01:00:38 Speaker 1: When then back in checks start coming in on the other side of success, I can only imagine what's getting ready to come through the pipeline. 01:00:50 Speaker 3: And you become a destination now because it's something that someone said to me some years ago about if you can figure out a way to make a living and be philanthropic, right because ultimately, like the love and the things that we put into it is to ultimately help someone else, right, especially when you sign artists or you sign a writer, or you know, you get a writer who cracks off for our producer, are now an artist, Like that's giving back because not only have you helped that artist, you've helped everyone connected to that artist, their family members, the women and whatever their lives. And you know what I mean, And you've you've brought someone else up. So now you become that destination when people are like, yeah, man, I'm a singer who could a man? I could go to easy money, I could go to R and B money. I can go to that. You know what I'm saying, Like, you become that for the next generations that's coming up right, because I guarantee if anybody thinks they have anything close to what Leone is, they're gonna be like, I gotta get the TI dollar sign. I gotta talk to Sean Barn. You know what I'm saying. I remember when y'all did that deal with Ethiopia. I remember, and she was like, Yo, Sean, he partnered you know what I mean, He's partnered with with time. 01:02:13 Speaker 2: You remember Matt who works with a Dreamville Now he's working whatever with him. 01:02:21 Speaker 5: Boy, he used to be with them. 01:02:23 Speaker 2: I think that Matt brought me to Ethiopia a long time ago to try to get my first publishing deal and she turned me down. 01:02:29 Speaker 3: Bro. 01:02:30 Speaker 2: Wow, it's hurt because all the homies isopia. Yeah, I thought that was gonna be my next thing. She believed in Leon Bro, and I just want to like Big Ethiopia for just being such a fucking boss bro, like yeah, yeah, you know, shout out to her. 01:02:46 Speaker 3: Absolutely don't kill the Party. 01:02:51 Speaker 5: The bop on that. 01:02:54 Speaker 2: Man. Like, I just realized how that song went again yesterday because I was just going through my phone and going through all my old files. I had started that song for a project I was working on called Sign Language two, because I already put out The Sign Language a long time ago. I was making two and two was with me and Juicy J producing the whole project and shit, and I did that song Don't Kill the Party with Baby Kobe and Juicy J hopped on it, and this is for that. But then fast forward twenty twenty three is when I link with Ya up in Japan and we were just gonna we were gonna do another project and I was going to have him executive produce my solo album. But then we started making songs and then we ended up coming up with the whole Vultures I did and did that, and then with that, it's like going through my hard drive picking all my best shit, going through his hard drive, picking all his best shit to just speed up the processed type shit right, and then we get. 01:03:48 Speaker 5: On each other songs. 01:03:50 Speaker 2: And a lot of people first heard Don't Kill the Party as a potential song for Vultures three, but I ended up being able to use it for Tycoon. So it's just crazy also to see how songs you know you could like. For instance, Grammy nominations just popped out, and I got nominated for a Grammy alongside my brother Jid and been Black. Thank you guys man that song with Jed Nigga, this is before the pandemic. He came to my crib and we did that song. I was produced on it and sung and he did his part. I'm talking about Nigga. This is before twenty twenty, but now it just happened right now. Mutt was done in twenty twenty two or twenty twenty three. 01:04:42 Speaker 5: So it's just crazy, like how. 01:04:43 Speaker 3: It works to what's your what's your favorite? I'm gonna tell you what mine after you if you have one, Yeah, what's your favorite feature you had? 01:04:52 Speaker 2: It's a very hard one because I'm gonna just say Psycho though it's diamond. 01:04:58 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. 01:04:58 Speaker 2: It was very successful just the way that ship happened. Post told me to come to the studio over here. That was the first day I met that nigga m Chopper like way back. I don't remember what year that was, but. 01:05:13 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's my favorite feature from you. It's back Seat. 01:05:19 Speaker 2: By Roddy rich Man, favorite feature and you're the in line. 01:05:26 Speaker 5: I'm a fucking sex. 01:05:32 Speaker 3: This niggas crazy because I don't had nothing to do. 01:05:35 Speaker 2: Nothing that's going on. 01:05:37 Speaker 3: Finished this ship. I'm a fucking sex. 01:05:40 Speaker 2: That's me and Mustard going back and forth on Instagram, just talking ship to each other. Same way we met, the same thing and we were just going back and forth and I ended up putting it in the song. 01:05:52 Speaker 1: Mine, What's What's What's the idiom song? 01:05:56 Speaker 2: You got? Uh? 01:06:00 Speaker 5: I got a gang of idiom songs. 01:06:02 Speaker 3: It's it's recent though. 01:06:07 Speaker 2: With is it like some Brazilian like AFROBT type ship or is it like like Relex. 01:06:13 Speaker 3: What's the one? 01:06:13 Speaker 2: What? 01:06:14 Speaker 1: What is it? 01:06:15 Speaker 3: Give me? I can't do this, O my god. 01:06:19 Speaker 1: First of all, back back taking real quick, and then I'm gonna look up my favorite song. 01:06:22 Speaker 2: All right, Well what I want? 01:06:24 Speaker 3: Like I said, you're a. 01:06:27 Speaker 5: Man, what I want? That was supposed to be on Me and Mustards collab album, so. 01:06:32 Speaker 3: Y'all yeah, because y'all never done a collab album together. 01:06:34 Speaker 2: One right before Vultures, and uh, the label at the time was like, let's let uh you know, the Mustard ship hasn't been hot lately, get back hot, and and I'm like, what the fuck, nigga, Like we got nothing but smashes on this ship And it was just like my team at the time, everything, it just didn't happen, bro, And maybe he's still yeah, like I was able to put that song on on this album. One of the other songs we were working on do It Stay Wet that with me and Nipsey and it was me, Nipsey and Cardi B at the time. Then it ended up being me and Yay and Nipsey on Vulture. 01:07:16 Speaker 3: So you know, how many records do you think you've written in life? If you just think, if you just think what you think over. 01:07:24 Speaker 5: One hundred dollars, God, thank you, fort hundred thousand records. 01:07:27 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I try to like do at least three songs a day. Bro, You're still on that type of still on that type of time even when the album is dropped. That day, I'm still in the studio, like making more songs. So do you still go in every day? 01:07:41 Speaker 5: Yes? 01:07:43 Speaker 2: To fast forward Kowanga, that building right there that we talked about, Nigga bought a building on Kowanga, right down the street. Nigga right down the street, remodeled the whole ship. Fucking you got your studios, you got your label, you got everything. 01:07:59 Speaker 3: The whole thing. 01:08:00 Speaker 2: So we're good. 01:08:01 Speaker 3: So so for you guys label, are you guys fully staffed out or is it still you guys running it like a small boutique. 01:08:11 Speaker 5: But I'm hiring all the people. 01:08:13 Speaker 2: We got everybody, We got publicists, we got you know, accounting, we got attorneys, we got every an ours full shit. 01:08:21 Speaker 3: So that's hard, Bro. And it's just to see that happen for an artist because it just doesn't happen that way, right Like you just don't. Especially as an active artist. You know, you'll see people that have you know, that step to the side, they start focusing on other things. But for you to have it as you're still climbing, it's amazing to watch, Bro, especially in R and B, because we don't we don't have a lot of reach back in R and B, yeah, unfortunately, you. 01:08:51 Speaker 2: Know what I mean, That's true. I feel like it's gonna come back, though. 01:08:54 Speaker 5: I feel like it's turning around. 01:08:55 Speaker 2: No. Absolutely, It's like as we saw what happened with Wrap on the Top forty this last week. 01:09:01 Speaker 5: But then we see that that best R and B category, which leon is heavy. It is crazy, it was major hits. 01:09:11 Speaker 2: Yes it is. 01:09:13 Speaker 5: So I'm happy about that. 01:09:15 Speaker 3: Have you been nominated for R and B Awards? 01:09:18 Speaker 2: Maybe? 01:09:19 Speaker 3: Do you get most of your stuff in hip hop? 01:09:21 Speaker 2: I get most of my stuff in hip hop for sure, and I'll still be mad that, Like, for instance, that's why they put Tycoon in the hip hop category because I don't feel like it's a hip hop album. 01:09:30 Speaker 3: Crazy, but that's why I asked you that. 01:09:33 Speaker 2: Yeah, I hate that ship. I'm not a rapper, like I said, I ain't never rap. If you put my records against jay Z, like, it's never, it's not even the same type of fucking music. 01:09:42 Speaker 5: Bro. My shit is like more adds up with a Chris Brown or adds up with you know. 01:09:47 Speaker 1: But that's when where they have to do more. They have to have more consideration in the thought process of of just music period. When they're creating these categories and things like that, because since these things have evolved, you can't just throw them somewhere like this is something completely different. And like you said, you haven't wrapped one? How did you get that? How did you throw me over there? Like you ask me? 01:10:13 Speaker 2: Let's talk about it. They didn't fucking they didn't nominate Playboy Cardi this year, which is like, how the fuck you didn't nominated play Boy Cardi? Fucking Eye of Music was one of the biggest fucking albums this whole year. 01:10:25 Speaker 3: And then you wonder why the youth exactly support it because I guarantee you if they would have nominated my son. 01:10:32 Speaker 2: Yeah, but like that that was the best ship in hip hop. 01:10:36 Speaker 1: But it's like it's it's almost like is it not hip hop? 01:10:41 Speaker 5: I don't know. 01:10:41 Speaker 1: Sometimes it just feels like it's anti impact, And I'm like, how do you how do you do that? And I'm talking to the and I'm talking to the voters, how do you how do you fight against impact? Like you shouldn't. You shouldn't, you shouldn't want to. Even if you don't understand it, right, that should lead you to go get into it and trying to figure it out like there's no reason. 01:11:09 Speaker 2: This is the lessons in my whole career, bro, Because it's like like if you if you rewind back to oh nine, when I said my space ship was popping, the jerk music shit was popping. I came from what I came from, and then they tried to throw me in this world, which I fucking hated that jerk shit. Just be just to be honest, right, because it just felt like lazy. It felt like no talent. It felt like y'all used five sounds and y'all got a song that's going, So how can I hate that the song's going? And that's when I had to learn to never call anything whack again anymore. You know what I'm saying, Like to open my fucking ear ups right, to add your sauce to it, Yeah, because this is what changed my ship. 01:11:44 Speaker 4: Right. 01:11:45 Speaker 2: So I think with the Grammys, it's like evolution, right, what used to be cool sometimes it's not cool no more. And there's certain new new ship right, and uh, I just think they need to be more ahead for what's coming because she be changing like every so many years. And when it comes to Cardi, I feel like his ship is a new thing. And then it's not only him, you got like fucking fifteen other artists that tried to sound exactly like that. 01:12:13 Speaker 1: You know what I mean, you know what has to happen though from here's here's what what what? What doesn't happen? Yeah, a guy like like Playboy Cardi. Sometimes there's a thing that we call campaign campaigning, Yeah. 01:12:35 Speaker 3: Because easy money is on the campaign, hey, Leon right now, like a motherfucker, it's campaign Yeah. 01:12:42 Speaker 2: Yeah. 01:12:43 Speaker 1: Grammy is one of those things where's running for something. There's there's a lot of older voters. It's there's a lot of older systems in place. But that campaigning and you you you up a Playboy Cardi having that Grammy conversation with your fans, are with the people who are helping you produce and write these albums. That makes the conversation different for sure. But if you never, but if you never interject yourself into that conversation, because what's missing is the youth in this place. 01:13:17 Speaker 3: Right. 01:13:17 Speaker 1: We need young voters, right, that's what we need to understand all of this new landscape and all of these new art I remember when Uzzivert was killing I was like, UZI verning. 01:13:30 Speaker 3: Got nothing, and we need teams submitting right, and you need team submitting right, like I Listen, it's a couple of things that didn't happen for some people that I had the conversation with them. I'm like, listen, you got to cut some motherfuckers out because you got nominated for this that, but you should have been nominated also exactly for this, that and the other exactly. 01:13:50 Speaker 2: You know what I mean. 01:13:51 Speaker 3: So you know it's and it's also a learning process for us because it hasn't always been inclusive, but it's becoming more inclusive. I'm a voter. I've been a voter for years now, and I'm promoting it to other people in the music business that don't even know that they could be voters, and I'm nominating them to be voters. 01:14:08 Speaker 2: I'm a voter as well, but it'll just be like, what are we voting on? 01:14:14 Speaker 5: You know what I mean? Like they don't sometimes they don't have the right category. 01:14:19 Speaker 3: Now, listen, there's definitely flaws. 01:14:21 Speaker 2: Absolutely when you speak about Leon, it's like he's making a classic sound that's already been you know, at the Grammars before in different kinds of ways, you know what I mean. But when it comes to Cardi's music. I feel like it's a newer type of music. It still reminds you of like a black rock or a black heavy metal like Da Da Da Da, And it's been done before too. 01:14:46 Speaker 1: If we but begin, we have to figure out what do we call it and where do we put it? Because Playboy Carti can't be in the same category as Chris Brown, but Playboy Cardi shouldn't be in the same category as Nicki Minaj. 01:15:09 Speaker 3: So what what is it? 01:15:13 Speaker 1: I'm just thinking outright, what do like? 01:15:18 Speaker 3: We're they figured it out, but they figured it out with it with the country Grammy now because they're doing progressive and then they're doing That's what I'm saying. But but also it's also somebody speaking up all because best believe and listen. I'll say this right here, right now. When we sat in there, before we walked out, I said, hey, board, nice to meet you guys. Why don't you have a podcast, Grammy, I would like to know that because there are a lot of music like we're part of what we obviously we do music too, but we're a part of music from a podcast standpoint, and there are multiple podcasts that are music based. 01:15:59 Speaker 2: Podcast It just happens a year late, because it's like when you go back to the Maclamore Kendrick here, you know what I mean, Like. 01:16:07 Speaker 3: Tricky, how did that happen? Tricky? 01:16:11 Speaker 2: And then you guys said podcast, which I feel like podcast should have been in last year, and then now you should have had the stream run, you know what I mean? 01:16:20 Speaker 3: The next time I go up there and I'll be like so TI said, because. 01:16:25 Speaker 5: Because it's all these little things, they don't really speak. 01:16:27 Speaker 3: On it, and we don't speak to the white people. Right. It's one thing to yell from from outside, and it's another thing to be in the club and be like hey. 01:16:36 Speaker 1: Hey, yeah, yeah, what about Yeah. 01:16:40 Speaker 2: It just sucks because it's like, this is the I M Music year, so that ship should be happening this year. Figure that ship out next year. Okay, now we have a fucking rage hip hop fucking category. 01:16:53 Speaker 6: You know. 01:16:54 Speaker 1: I feel like as music evolves so quickly that these these these institutions they have to they have to be able to pivot as well. I mean, it's it's it's buildings of people or smart people who should be able to say, hey, this is happening now and we need to get in front in front of it in some way, shape or form, even if it's just acknowledging it, like we need to we need to be in the game. We can't be behind the game because for a lot of us, that platform is just so important, right and they should be leading us as opposed to play is supposed to be playing ketchup. 01:17:37 Speaker 3: You know, we the voices now though, you know what I mean, your your voice is strong, brothers, you know what I mean. They got it. They got to know how you feel, and they want to meet with you. They would love to take a tie dollar sign meeting and they'll all show up. So go tell them how you feel. 01:17:51 Speaker 5: For sure. 01:17:53 Speaker 8: Midnight hour, midnight programming for that joint midnight hour is special to me. 01:18:03 Speaker 2: I appreciate you, man. I always say, Uh. Skrill X to me was like, uh, the doctor Dre of dance music. He's like the greatest. Why it's actually him that Nigga's hands on on the laptop, mixing the ship, like producing this ship, doing everything like he's. 01:18:25 Speaker 5: Him for real. 01:18:27 Speaker 2: And any genre you want to go, he can go R and B. He could go rocky go, hip hopy go whatever. 01:18:31 Speaker 3: He's just like his music. 01:18:33 Speaker 2: One of us so shout out to scrill X. Hit Maker was also involved on that record, and he got the chords played on that. You know. 01:18:43 Speaker 5: That, Yeah, shout out to him Maker, you still got a nigga. 01:18:51 Speaker 2: He liked that. 01:18:52 Speaker 1: You still hot nigga. I was in the mall. I cannot remember what story I was in and and music freezes me. 01:18:59 Speaker 3: Yeah know what I mean. 01:19:01 Speaker 1: Just it's been like that since Charlie Brown Christmas. It'll it'll freeze me. And I can't remember what story I was saying. And I heard that's just I was like, that's crazy. And what started it was muffled bo babe, babe, let's go, let's go. 01:19:26 Speaker 5: I'm sorry, I tell you about to start singing this song and that. 01:19:35 Speaker 1: I was stuck. I was like, I said, nigga's tied dollars sign. 01:19:40 Speaker 3: It's crazy, So where the fuck is what is this? 01:19:45 Speaker 2: Bro? 01:19:46 Speaker 1: Incredible? That's my world anyway, that's secretly my world. Like like I've been making Jay to go to the house clubs and medio clubs. We's in there one January first and I was like this and this nigga was sitting like that, fuck this nigga. I was feeling, Hey, I'm over in the pizza with M. K. Harris getting it and it was like, so put your shirt back on. 01:20:15 Speaker 3: I will not put your shirt back on his crate. Here's the crazy thing. 01:20:19 Speaker 1: I'm in vi P. And they're like, so put your shirt on. 01:20:23 Speaker 3: I was like, what you mean, I'm in VI I P. 01:20:25 Speaker 1: That is why you must put your shirt on. 01:20:26 Speaker 5: Now. 01:20:26 Speaker 1: If you want to have your shirt off, you have to go with the regular people. I said, that's wow. But he was a built due too. He's like, I understand because I want to show myself too, but you can't in vi P. I was like, all right, I respected you, you, fellow buff man, Like put my shirt back on? What we are we getting a tour? 01:20:49 Speaker 2: Like what are we? 01:20:50 Speaker 3: What are we getting with? 01:20:51 Speaker 2: We're putting the tour together right now and I've just been getting the team all the way right. But you have a lot happened too. Yeah, there's been a lot of moving parts going on to get to this next level that we're going to. 01:21:07 Speaker 5: But the next level is happening for you. What is that? 01:21:10 Speaker 2: The next level is just up? Everything up bro. That's the motto, everything up bro, everything next level. You know what I'm saying, Everything level up and there's still shit I haven't done. I haven't performed at the Super Bowl. I'm so glad to see my little bro Mustard and Kendrick up there. You know what I'm saying. Kendrick was on LA, Mustard's been on all my ship. I'm always happy for my brothers, you know what I mean to get to that level. There's still the World Cup, you know what I'm saying. One thing people don't do that. I noticed that I had to call my brother and really give him as full flowers on and speak on. When they talk about the West Coast, they don't bring up my nigga, Will I Am enough? And I feel like I feel like when it really talks about when we really want to talk about the king of Kings of l A, who else did the fucking Super Bowl three times? 01:22:06 Speaker 5: Nigga? Or it might before? And who else did the World Cup? 01:22:10 Speaker 3: You tell me all things LA, the. 01:22:14 Speaker 2: Exactly everything l A. 01:22:16 Speaker 3: You feel you don't get more LA than Will I Am. 01:22:18 Speaker 2: I'm just trying to, you know, do the things that Will did and go past that, you know what I'm saying. That's my motherfucker. 01:22:24 Speaker 1: You guys, have you the bar done? Music? 01:22:26 Speaker 2: Together, Like I said, Bro, two thousand whatever that year is right before the YG ship is me Venus Brown Corey justin Timberlake and Will I am right and still to this day, Will I am pulls up. He did a whole version of the Vultures album that didn't come you know out and the Will is always with me, Bro, so shout out to Will. 01:22:48 Speaker 3: Were just we were talking about Will earlier with Big with beat by Dre. 01:22:53 Speaker 1: Yeah, he came to my U. He came to my play in Broadway. 01:22:57 Speaker 2: Yeah, I will pull up. 01:22:58 Speaker 3: We'll pull up. 01:22:59 Speaker 1: And I was like, Will, Man, I need a song. That's the first thing, that first thing that came to. 01:23:12 Speaker 2: You. 01:23:12 Speaker 1: I said, Hey man, I need a rocket I said, I need a smash. He said, hm hmm. What kind of smash I said. I said, like like take me somewhere and I've never been. He said, like a rocket ship. I said yes. He said, h okay, come out the studio. I said, okay, we'll call you. 01:23:35 Speaker 2: I have a call you. 01:23:36 Speaker 1: I don't got his number, advertise here now he right down the street. Yes, yeah. 01:23:42 Speaker 3: Will was one of those type of people to like you said that, you know he's just over He will right a corner. 01:23:48 Speaker 1: No, he's always, always solid, always waiting. 01:23:53 Speaker 3: To buy one of these cars, even made the car and make the music and ship wait to that car. 01:23:58 Speaker 2: He was the first rapper I knew there was, like in his own cars. And he's having like studio buildings with fucking fingerprint to get to the next door and a big inspiration in my life. 01:24:09 Speaker 1: We were having like one of those conversations one night at the studio and I said, I said, if you weren't doing music, what would you be doing? And he said, I won't say. The computer company he said, he said, I'd be working there. I said what? And then he started telling me all the think tank things that he does with the computer companies. Yeah, literally picking his brain and he's evaluating things and telling them. 01:24:43 Speaker 3: He different. 01:24:44 Speaker 2: Yeah, he different. 01:24:47 Speaker 5: And like you said, he came from East l A. 01:24:49 Speaker 3: And well he got the song right now too, he got the he sampled. 01:24:54 Speaker 2: The Maria Maria exactly. 01:24:56 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no, he he sampled that. 01:25:00 Speaker 2: And that's how I'm motion on the charts. 01:25:02 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, East La Zion. The other day we ride the car, Daddy turned that up. What's that song? I didn't I know? That was what I am tell him. The kids still love him, the kids. 01:25:16 Speaker 2: The reason why I called him to give him that love is I was in London and like it was this group that pulled up on me, like four white girls, like young. They had to be like twenty something, and they were screaming to the top of their lungs where's the love? And this is twenty twenty five, like two months ago, and that song came out whenever the fucker came out and they're just like, will nigga, this is crazy, Bro? 01:25:39 Speaker 3: You really like him? 01:25:40 Speaker 2: Bro. I don't know when's the last time you heard that, but just in case, I don't know what kind of day you haven't because you know how it be like yeah, nigga, you just gotta. 01:25:49 Speaker 5: Know, bro, keep going if you still care about this ship and you still love it. 01:25:54 Speaker 3: Like where right now? 01:25:57 Speaker 1: Brother, brother dollar Sign. That's one of those special moments. You start to talk about music mm hmm. Music that is made of. 01:26:20 Speaker 5: It is a lot of money, a lot of money. 01:26:27 Speaker 1: We want to get into the mind of the Dollar Sign. 01:26:30 Speaker 2: I want to get into the mind. 01:26:33 Speaker 1: And understand the music that has been so inclined to inspire your journey as by your journey, as we sit here at this time the paper to know mister tie Dollar signs. 01:27:05 Speaker 3: Top your top F, top F. 01:27:18 Speaker 2: You top the single? What a tip? 01:27:24 Speaker 3: And this. 01:27:28 Speaker 2: Were going to do? There? All this fingers. Come on now, ladies and gentlemen. 01:28:02 Speaker 3: One of the greatest ever. 01:28:07 Speaker 2: So how we doing? We're doing Top five female singers, Top five male singers? 01:28:12 Speaker 5: Are we doing? 01:28:13 Speaker 2: Top five R and B. 01:28:15 Speaker 1: Producers of twenty your top eighty five listen. 01:28:22 Speaker 3: Women? 01:28:22 Speaker 1: Are men? 01:28:24 Speaker 3: Just five? 01:28:24 Speaker 2: No order? Best singers? 01:28:29 Speaker 9: Tip five, Nigga the tip five, the top five, Top five, Stevie Wonder Wonder. 01:28:41 Speaker 2: Yeah, like anybody who's doing runs of Man, that's Stevie Wonder. We all got it from him. Kim Barell best female ever to me. 01:28:51 Speaker 3: Fault God damn she sang a tanks with. 01:28:59 Speaker 2: That's like, yeah, you deserve that though, because you definitely one of those Steve Wonder tank Brian McKnight, fucking uh that nigga? Mario? 01:29:10 Speaker 5: I love Mario, h I love that nigga. Avery Wilson, I love Leon. I know I just went over the. 01:29:25 Speaker 1: Twelve, but you know, what did you say that? I don't think people are really listening to Leon. 01:29:34 Speaker 5: Man on the run? 01:29:36 Speaker 3: What that ship? 01:29:37 Speaker 1: So I don't, don't people are listening and understanding what he's doing vocalocally because he slips it in pockets them pocke so quick you can miss it. You think it's normal. It's not normal. 01:29:55 Speaker 5: It's definitely not normal. 01:29:56 Speaker 1: But he just did in that small space is not normal. 01:30:00 Speaker 2: Then when it even gets more trickies when you go to the show and you see it live and he's fucking signing damn near better than the record because a lot of people have trouble sounding like the record for history is like clean clean. And I even got on his head the other day, like, Yo, who you got mixing your ship? 01:30:16 Speaker 3: Bro? 01:30:16 Speaker 2: He's like, Yo, I got the older homie who was just you know, damn near beat cancer nigga and he's up here with his cane nigga and he's fucking killing ship. Yeah. 01:30:25 Speaker 5: I'm like, bro, shout out to your whole squad, real killing it. 01:30:29 Speaker 3: I can't wait to go to that tour too. That's that's that's outright now. 01:30:32 Speaker 2: Females though, Kimbarell, fucking Brandy Nigga, Beyonce, Beyonce again, Beyonce Nigga, playing with me Clark's sisters, ah. 01:30:45 Speaker 5: Nuts, I think that was five and the females. 01:30:47 Speaker 3: That's fine. 01:30:49 Speaker 2: There's so many more, though you want to leave out nobody fucking I love Jasmine Sullivan. We can start getting into the young ship. There's a lot of young ship. 01:31:00 Speaker 1: It's a lot of let's move on because I know you got them for days. Yeah, top five R and B songs ship, Yeah, that's gonna get tricky. 01:31:10 Speaker 3: Damn Nigga, we want it, bro. 01:31:15 Speaker 5: I can't even do that. 01:31:16 Speaker 1: Bro, you can't start just. 01:31:19 Speaker 3: Nigga. Just start naming jaf You listen to right. 01:31:21 Speaker 1: Now, you're just jams. 01:31:22 Speaker 3: Go down and playlist. 01:31:24 Speaker 2: Oh man, I can't do it like that, bro. Like I said, I could just name people that just brand periods of R and B, like Teddy Riley, like Babyface, like motherfucking Tank Nigga, like r Kelly, like who am I missing? Bro Stevie Nigga, Smokey Robinson. 01:31:46 Speaker 1: Smoky You just pick a song from each of those artists. 01:31:49 Speaker 2: I can't pick the song because it's just so many. I can't do that because I'm gonna blame it on the weed. You'll be smoking too much to just go to a song at my head right now. 01:31:57 Speaker 1: You would be the first one to not I don't know if you want to be the first to not do it? 01:32:02 Speaker 2: Well, did they pick all those producers? Did these niggas get you know, the information about the songs? 01:32:08 Speaker 1: Come on? 01:32:09 Speaker 3: He technically gave he gave us the category two, gave us another category. I respect. That's why I'm saying ship. She was I be saying ship. Yeah, I like that category. 01:32:20 Speaker 2: Ship. 01:32:21 Speaker 3: Niggas who ran this ship, Niggas. 01:32:22 Speaker 2: Who ran Yeah, niggas who ran this ship for pairs at. 01:32:25 Speaker 3: The time, I like it. 01:32:26 Speaker 2: Uh, Jamine Lewis, Jam and Lewis, Nigga, the Underdogs, Nigga, Rodney Jerkins, bro How did you leave out Rodney Jerkins. 01:32:41 Speaker 1: Tim and Bob Dallas, Austin, Brian, Michael Cox. 01:32:47 Speaker 3: There's some niggas dry and they die. 01:32:53 Speaker 2: But let me let me I don't know if this ever happened on the show, But what's your top five arm B song? 01:32:59 Speaker 3: Can can't do that? 01:33:00 Speaker 2: You can't do that? 01:33:01 Speaker 5: Can you even think of them right now? 01:33:03 Speaker 3: Yeah? 01:33:03 Speaker 1: But you can't do that. That's let's just hear it. If you can, what you're doing is you're stalling. 01:33:09 Speaker 2: I'm not sing. 01:33:10 Speaker 5: I'm trying to see if you could pick five songs, I don't even be like. 01:33:13 Speaker 1: You have pick five song right now right now, I couldn't. They wouldn't necessarily be My top is A tier has two right now. Ever, right now you say, can you think of right now, right now too? Of my right now is right now? 01:33:28 Speaker 2: Yes, right now, yes it is. But then I go, ka folded, Okay, Chris Brown, I'm. 01:33:37 Speaker 3: Gonna take residuals. I'm gonna take residuals like residuous. 01:33:41 Speaker 1: Too, I'm going residuals. I'm going still going herd damage. 01:33:48 Speaker 2: Her damage is crazy crazy, that's going one of the best singers too cold. 01:33:53 Speaker 3: Yeah, hours and hours for like the last couple of years, hours and hours. 01:33:57 Speaker 1: I'm going, I'm going, I'm going brand when you touch me shh, Yeah, I'm going. I'm going Joe to see my heart belongs to you? 01:34:12 Speaker 3: Are you're mixing it up? You're mixing it up. 01:34:16 Speaker 1: I'm just you know, I go places, man, this is these are all top tier, they all live, they all live on that top level. And I'm going Marvin gay Distant Lover Live, I'm just I'm everywhere. 01:34:30 Speaker 2: Yeah, Marvin Gaye, what's going on for me? Not only was he singing his ass off in the backgrounds with the message anything Bob Marley bro that if you want to consider that. R and B singing has so many STEVIEE songs, I can't even name one. I'm like, but I don't want to pick the wrong one because I want to pick one. Who is a favorite, That whole TP two R. Kelly albums, like that whole Voodoo D'Angelo albums. What made me the whole Lauren Hill fucking her album is what made me. I could go two albums on Brandy two or three. You actually could, you could because that's like what made my backgrounds? 01:35:24 Speaker 5: Who else? 01:35:25 Speaker 2: Man? And then, like I said, Kim, I'm trying to pick what song that was, but it was like the that that black and white cover from Kim Brell. I don't know, man, I don't know the names of the song. Sorry, guys. 01:35:42 Speaker 1: All right, guys, okay, okay, if you did good, I like, I like what you did, then let's move on. Let's make your super R and B artists like this artist is is everything you would want in an artist, right, So we're gonna pick it in pieces. We're gonna pick who's vocal. You're gonna use for that artist, the perform rmant style, the styling of the artists, the passion of that artist, and who's going to produce for that artist. Let's start here. What one vocal are you getting to make your super R and B artist? 01:36:11 Speaker 3: One vocal? 01:36:13 Speaker 5: Ah, Super R and B artist vocal. I'm gonna go with odd dollars. 01:36:20 Speaker 3: On dollar sign. 01:36:25 Speaker 2: That's going, nigga, that's going. 01:36:27 Speaker 3: Yeah, everything up. 01:36:31 Speaker 2: I'm hitting any run they throw every whatever. 01:36:33 Speaker 3: You better believe it. 01:36:34 Speaker 2: You better. I heard you do it. Performance style, performance style, Chris Brown. 01:36:43 Speaker 1: Yes, hmmm, we're flying around the whole stadium at thirty miles per hour. 01:36:50 Speaker 2: Yeh. 01:36:50 Speaker 1: Niggas trip, the styling of the artists, they look like on stage, the drip of the artists. 01:36:55 Speaker 5: Did drip in twenty twenty six, Uh ship. 01:37:02 Speaker 3: Yeah, man, we talked about you know what I mean, the niggas, I mean the French niggas back in the days. You'll be listened. How have you want? 01:37:09 Speaker 1: I think my grip is like, I think I'm not scared if you go there. 01:37:12 Speaker 2: I'm MYO. We don't talk about that enough, but I've been doing it. 01:37:17 Speaker 6: Bro. 01:37:17 Speaker 1: I was I was hoping. I was hoping you were going to say that I appreciate how mad at you? The passion of the artist, the heart of the artists who mean it. 01:37:25 Speaker 2: Yeah, the passion and heart. I got a crazy passion. I'm still here. I'll take you know, hm, I'll take fail, I'll take win, and I'll never stop and im and I'm still here. 01:37:35 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. 01:37:37 Speaker 5: Why not with the same energy. 01:37:38 Speaker 3: Why now? What you're telling me is you're you with Chris Brown moves. 01:37:44 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the one thing. That's the one thing I didn't like that much time on what I wish I would have. 01:37:53 Speaker 1: Your feet feat and who's producing for this artist? 01:37:57 Speaker 5: Who's producing for that particular artist? Ship? 01:38:04 Speaker 2: Can I get a combo? Can I get Mustard and Camper? Mustard and Camper because Mustard stands the people, the vibe and Camper got them chords. 01:38:15 Speaker 3: Man, he's gonna give us Mustard and Camper is great. 01:38:18 Speaker 5: Yeah, those two together would be like, oh my god, razy. 01:38:22 Speaker 1: Yeah, Mustard in Camper. Who's writing for this artist? 01:38:28 Speaker 5: Shit me James fond Deloya and Krishan hit Maker. 01:38:39 Speaker 2: And let me just throw some female perspective in there. I ain't never worked with her, but I love her words, and like everything she's been doing is his chick named Amy Allen. 01:38:48 Speaker 3: Amy Allen. 01:38:48 Speaker 5: Yeah, you ever heard of her? 01:38:49 Speaker 2: No, you ever heard of Sabrina Carpenter of course, like she's writing on. 01:38:53 Speaker 3: Her writing on the record. 01:38:54 Speaker 2: I don't want to take anything for Sabrina because I wasn't in the room. But from when I read the credits, I see Amy's name on all the ship, so and like she might be the inspiration. And then I heard Amy solo records and I like her a lot. 01:39:07 Speaker 1: Okay, you're taking all this a whole nother place, Bro. 01:39:14 Speaker 5: It's not like the classic R and B ship, but it's like her words is. 01:39:18 Speaker 3: Just music, you know. I mean, you know what I want to before you before you go into that. 01:39:23 Speaker 5: And Tish, I'm gonna bring Tish to the table. 01:39:26 Speaker 3: Before you, before you, before we get to this last segment. I want to tell you, bro, thank you for something. And I'm saying this from the other side of the business. So I have these bright ideas all the time, right, and sometimes people be like, yeah, you're crazy, and it sometimes like I'm rolling. So I had this bright idea. I'm like, Tank, you know what I'm going to direct your next video for the when we remix right, I was like, I have a call, Ben Mark. I got the I got the I got the whole concept in my head and write this ship out. I've never done it before, but I was like, I got something, and I'm saying thank you from the other side of that from just being a gracious artist. You Trey songs obviously my brother Tank, but this is my first time directing the video. You probably had no idea. He's just like, okay, all right, all right, Jay, what's the next thing. You know what I'm saying. But I wanted to personally say thank you. You know what I mean, because that can and understanding that from their side, the directors who do that every day, that ship can be taxing, especially when you're dealing with artists who ain't cool. You know what I'm saying. So I just want to tell you I appreciate it that bro. 01:40:40 Speaker 5: Man, appreciate y'all. Thank you for having me on the mom and you kill me. 01:40:44 Speaker 3: Your verse is crazy on it. Have you seen the choreography online to your verse? All the girls to do the chur hard. 01:40:57 Speaker 2: Yeah. 01:40:57 Speaker 3: Man, appreciated brother, Thank you, brother. 01:41:00 Speaker 1: I can, I can Piggy back on that thing. 01:41:01 Speaker 5: Let's thank you, sir, Let's do another Yeah, all those kse Swiss? 01:41:06 Speaker 3: Hey, yeah, right, that's hard. 01:41:08 Speaker 5: I ain't seen nothing in a while. 01:41:10 Speaker 3: What did I just say? 01:41:11 Speaker 1: He just literally yeah, I said, nigga, youre gonna make me go a pair case Swiss. 01:41:16 Speaker 5: That's fine. 01:41:22 Speaker 1: I ain't saying no nigga. I ain't saying no names. I ain't saying no names. I ain't saying no. 01:41:28 Speaker 2: Names are what you need? 01:41:33 Speaker 1: Don't see ship, and I ain't. 01:41:38 Speaker 3: Saying no name. So we had a very very important part of the show. Yeah, will you tell us a story? Funny er fucked up? Are funny and fucked up? Which I know you probably got some of both the only route to this game. And you can't say no names? 01:42:01 Speaker 5: Okay, funny and fucked up? 01:42:04 Speaker 3: What funny? What just fucked up? 01:42:06 Speaker 5: Mhm, funny and fucked up? Funny and fucked up? Funny and fucked up. 01:42:11 Speaker 4: Uh. 01:42:18 Speaker 1: I'm trying to like, somebody got a somebody got a bad. 01:42:21 Speaker 5: Right before canceled, I'm like, can I say this? 01:42:28 Speaker 3: We got good added in too? So whatever? 01:42:30 Speaker 5: Right? Funny and fucked up? 01:42:33 Speaker 2: Damn. I'm just trying to think of what time period. I should go what time period helped me? What time periods? Should I go? 01:42:43 Speaker 1: Go go tutor them? Booted time period? 01:42:46 Speaker 2: Funny and fucked up to them? Booted time period? Oh, ship nigga? When we uh just that whole time man? Like all right, cool, I do this song, get YG on it? Oh, sorry, no names. The record companies called they want to sign Bro. They don't want to sign MEW or Tcuh. Next thing, you know, it's time to put the record out. The record comes out. We gotta tell TC they don't want him on the record. Sorry I said another name, So uh that comes out? Ship. 01:43:22 Speaker 5: I'm trying to think how this is funny? That's not that funny? 01:43:26 Speaker 3: Sound? Yeah, they don't got to be both. 01:43:32 Speaker 2: I mean the video shoot, I just had my homeboy do the video and we went to Darck Wilder Beach and like I said, push in was a whole bunch of us from all over the city, different hoods. And we get to the beach, nigga guns are drawn, niggas a big standoff on the parking lot. 01:43:52 Speaker 3: And you know what I'm saying, niggas that supposed to be there together. 01:43:55 Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's like different hoods because like I said, we all come all over, so it's all different hoods. You got you got blood, you got power us, you got grapes, you got everything, and uh and then end up getting you know, being a successful video nobody got shot and we got a million views in one week and end up getting the record deals and we're here today. 01:44:17 Speaker 5: It's not that funny though. 01:44:18 Speaker 1: That's no, that's a good one. Stand off at the video show. 01:44:21 Speaker 2: Stand off at the video shoot. Bro, I'm trying to think what else is like funny funny though? I want to have the funniest one on this show. Ever, I can't think, Bro, I should have came more prepared. 01:44:36 Speaker 3: I'll call it in on the. 01:44:37 Speaker 1: Next brother Tie dollar sign. We are extremely grateful, extremely grateful for your time, man, grateful for y'all. Thank you for having me on the show. I'm actually a fan of the show. 01:44:51 Speaker 2: I've caught a couple of them, and uh, you know, it's just I honored to be in the room, you know, alongside some legends that I respecting. 01:45:00 Speaker 3: The game and ship. Keep expanding, man, keep making room. 01:45:04 Speaker 5: Now we all funny, funny, funny, funny. 01:45:07 Speaker 3: He got a funny way. 01:45:08 Speaker 2: So this building right down the street it's across the street, right down the street right now. It's called Keys. I remember back in the day coming to some show at that motherfucker. It was called Billboard Live, and I've seen yo ass in there, nigga going crazy on the mic. 01:45:22 Speaker 5: I don't know if it was one of them R and B. 01:45:24 Speaker 2: Wednesdays and Sundays and one of them ships, but I remember you killed that shit, and I'm like, I just can't wait to be at this motherfucker. And then one day this is after Tutored and Booted, like after House on the Hill, and we get our first show. This is like the last week of it being Billboard Live before they changed it to one oh to one, right, and we get in there to do the show. About seven people came to that motherfucker. Bro Me and Joe Moses on stage all around homies I'm talking about. The stage is filled up with homies. He came in the crowd, nigga, and then we just have the homies go out. 01:46:03 Speaker 3: Understand the house Keys. 01:46:05 Speaker 2: And I haven't been there so many times performing it that motherfucker see changes in the ship. But it'd be like that sometimes, man, you know, sometimes you'll think it'll be the biggest ship because you got this one thing going and then you'll come and nobody shows up, and then you'll go to another city and the ships the fucking most packed shit in the world thase people can't even get in. So you know, if you believe in yourself, bro, just keep going. Like you said, it's got to be that passion. You got to actually like have fun with the ship and uh or else it'll eat you up. 01:46:35 Speaker 1: Those are the moments to tell you who you are and if you want it. Yeah, it's it's the seven people in the crowd that when you decide what what it's really gonna be for you because with them seven people, I'm still gonna take my shirt off exactly. 01:46:48 Speaker 2: Yeah, you feel me. 01:46:49 Speaker 3: I've seen it. 01:46:49 Speaker 1: I'm still gonna cook light out there. 01:46:52 Speaker 3: Tank cool, Cool, Let's get it. Let's see what we do. That's what we do. 01:46:57 Speaker 1: Appreciate you, bro, We appreciate you. My name is Tank and this is the R and B Money Podcast, the authority on all things R and B. 01:47:08 Speaker 3: He's not a rapper, R and B singing not a rapper. He is and a lot more is. He is all things is all things, sing it, play it, write it, get to know that. 01:47:23 Speaker 2: I appreciate y'all for saying that, Appreciate the platform, Appreciate everybody that's out there tuning in, Appreciate everybody that's clipping and ship and we'll be back for more man clipping. Let's see what you do. 01:47:36 Speaker 3: Watermarks there Live from the sun roll wasn't the sun Rolls

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