Every Which Way But Loose (1978) vs Any Which Way You Can (1980): Pt 2

<v Speaker 1>Hello everybody, and welcome back to the Shirley You Can't
<v Speaker 1>Be Serious podcast. Jason beers to you, My friend beers
<v Speaker 1>to you. Now. It seems absolutely ridiculous that Clint Eastwood
<v Speaker 1>would be singing a song at the intro to this
<v Speaker 1>movie with mister Ray Charles himself. It seems ridiculous that
<v Speaker 1>Clint Eastwood would be singing at all. But as it
<v Speaker 1>turns out, he has had a long career of singing.
<v Speaker 2>Bez youd time, he's he's a musician.
<v Speaker 1>He sang in Rawhide Reliates, got up on stage and
<v Speaker 1>sang a song. Yes, wow, greag he was in. He
<v Speaker 1>was in a freaking musical.
<v Speaker 2>Ain't your Wagon, baby pinterr Wagon?
<v Speaker 1>Yep.
<v Speaker 2>I mean he's a musician. But man, I told you
<v Speaker 2>my ears have not stopped bleeding for this.
<v Speaker 1>It was not his best work.
<v Speaker 2>Well it's almost like he kind of talks it. Uh
<v Speaker 2>when whipped them local boy, Oh didn't we and we
<v Speaker 2>bought him drinks all nice and when movie, you know,
<v Speaker 2>and for him to be singing with Ray Charles just don't.
<v Speaker 2>We'll talk about what works with this movie here in
<v Speaker 2>just a minute.
<v Speaker 1>All right. So last episode we talked about every which
<v Speaker 1>way but Loose. Yes, and today we're here to talk
<v Speaker 1>about any which way you can. But what we didn't
<v Speaker 1>talk about last episode is what happened after the movie
<v Speaker 1>came out. How was it received? And the answer is
<v Speaker 1>it was received poorly by the critics. Yes, the critics
<v Speaker 1>hated it. Jean Cisco gave this movie two and a
<v Speaker 1>half stars. Okay, do you know what the public did?
<v Speaker 1>What they bought tickets?
<v Speaker 2>Yes, they did.
<v Speaker 1>This is at the time, Clint Eastwood's most profitable movie.
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely.
<v Speaker 1>We're talking about all of the spaghetti westerns. We're talking
<v Speaker 1>about all of the Dirty Harry movies that had come
<v Speaker 1>up to this point. We're talking about play Misty for Me,
<v Speaker 1>all of that.
<v Speaker 2>When adjusted for inflation, every which way but Loose ranks
<v Speaker 2>as one of the top two hundred and fifty most
<v Speaker 2>profitable films of all time, all time. Let me say
<v Speaker 2>that again, Top two fifty most profitable films of all
<v Speaker 2>time adjusted for inflation.
<v Speaker 1>That is crazy. Listen to this.
<v Speaker 2>It the budget was five million, It made one hundred
<v Speaker 2>and four million dollars.
<v Speaker 1>It's crazy.
<v Speaker 2>That's raking it in man.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it is. So with that kind of success, you
<v Speaker 1>have to do a sequel.
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, you got to do it right right.
<v Speaker 1>And as it turns out, the guy who wrote the
<v Speaker 1>first movie has a second movie that he is ready
<v Speaker 1>to write, puts that one out. Fixes a lot of problems,
<v Speaker 1>does there every which way? But Loose is not a
<v Speaker 1>perfect movie, and they fix a lot of stuff come
<v Speaker 1>second round. They filmed this movie in the summer of
<v Speaker 1>nineteen eighty and they do a different director and Clint
<v Speaker 1>Eastwood takes yet another cue from Burt Reynolds and brings
<v Speaker 1>in to direct his stunt man. This movie is directed
<v Speaker 1>by Buddy Van Horn, who was Eastwood's stunt double in
<v Speaker 1>a ton of movies he had done. The Enforcer directed
<v Speaker 1>it as well. He knew what he was doing, and
<v Speaker 1>so he brings him in. And the timing on this
<v Speaker 1>one is tighter, the comedy is funnier. Okay, they do
<v Speaker 1>a lot of great stuff. By the way, Buddy van
<v Speaker 1>Horn I mentioned earlier in our first episode about Walter
<v Speaker 1>Piggy Barnes being a sheriff in High Planes Drifter. Buddy
<v Speaker 1>van Horn was yet another sheriff in High Planes Drifter.
<v Speaker 1>Two different sheriffs, but that is probably his most famous
<v Speaker 1>acting role. But obviously he's done some good work directing
<v Speaker 1>as well. Okay, I wonder if him and how I
<v Speaker 1>need him more buddies.
<v Speaker 2>I bet they were. They had to be everybody. They
<v Speaker 2>probably did cocaine together.
<v Speaker 1>They probably dated the same girl, had the same time
<v Speaker 1>with the cocaine.
<v Speaker 2>Hey, I'll tell you what. Clint Eastwood and Burt Reynolds.
<v Speaker 2>But Clint Eastwood in the late seventies, he had the
<v Speaker 2>kind of clout to say to the studio, I want
<v Speaker 2>this guy directed me. Yes, I know he's my stunt double.
<v Speaker 2>I want my girlfriend to be the lead. I want
<v Speaker 2>all of my buddies to be in the movie. And
<v Speaker 2>we're gonna go on the road and we're gonna have
<v Speaker 2>a great time. This is the beginning of things like
<v Speaker 2>Kenniball Run. Yeah, where you get a bunch of friends together,
<v Speaker 2>they have a great time. They all party the whole
<v Speaker 2>way down and the chemistry shows on screen.
<v Speaker 1>Big road Trip, It's fantastic.
<v Speaker 2>There's one other thing that you mentioned right there, and
<v Speaker 2>we'll probably talk about it here in a minute. What
<v Speaker 2>they did with any which way you can and what
<v Speaker 2>movies don't do enough of. In my opinion, they figured
<v Speaker 2>out what worked, they cut out what didn't, and they
<v Speaker 2>doubled down on the laughs and the fun. Why don't
<v Speaker 2>people do that more often?
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So this is set two years after Filo Bettal
<v Speaker 2>fought Tank Murdoch in the first movie, which we haven't
<v Speaker 2>even really talked about that he fights Tank Murdock. The
<v Speaker 2>whole build up of the movie is this big fight.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah that he throws. Yeah, it's another bad decision. I
<v Speaker 1>don't I mean, it's I don't know if they're taking
<v Speaker 1>their cue from Rocky or what the deal was.
<v Speaker 2>There was a trend in the late seventies to have
<v Speaker 2>these sort of competition movies or sports movies where the
<v Speaker 2>team or person loses and then ends up learning something
<v Speaker 2>about themselves, and that was just kind of the trend.
<v Speaker 2>So you got Rocky and you got the Bad News Bears. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>you got every which way but loose.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I mean, I think the kind of the
<v Speaker 1>idea in every which Way but Loose was He's hearing
<v Speaker 1>all of the people talk about Tank Murdoch being washed
<v Speaker 1>up yep, and he imagines himself in that position, right.
<v Speaker 1>He doesn't want to be the guy who's washed up
<v Speaker 1>in a few years, like Tank is fighting these dumb
<v Speaker 1>fights years later, which is a great lead in for
<v Speaker 1>this one, because in this one he's like, I'm done fighting.
<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to do it anymore.
<v Speaker 2>Starting to like it too much?
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like the pain.
<v Speaker 2>None of that made it any sense to me, but okay, whatever, right.
<v Speaker 1>So, of course, nice counterpoint to this decision to retire
<v Speaker 1>from the bare knuckle brawling is there are some gangster
<v Speaker 1>mafia guys coming from New York who have heard of
<v Speaker 1>Filo Betto and they've got their own guy, Jack Wilson.
<v Speaker 1>Jack Wilson, what a great name. Yes, and they're like,
<v Speaker 1>we can make so much money if we can get
<v Speaker 1>these guys together to fight. And so when the guy
<v Speaker 1>from New York shows up to talk to Filo Betto,
<v Speaker 1>Filo Betto's like, I'm retired, not doing it anymore. And
<v Speaker 1>then he pulls out what twenty thousand dollars? Here you go, right, Okay,
<v Speaker 1>I'm back in.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm looking for mister Filo Beetto.
<v Speaker 1>You're talking to him.
<v Speaker 2>I'm talking to his feet, well.
<v Speaker 1>The top half of him, can hear you?
<v Speaker 2>Okay? So the interesting thing to me, Jack Wilson, we
<v Speaker 2>talked about. He's played by William Smith. Yeah, he plays
<v Speaker 2>the cop in Rumblefish.
<v Speaker 1>There's another guy who has I mean he's he was
<v Speaker 1>acting first. He just passed away twenty twenty one. Okay,
<v Speaker 1>he'd acted for seventy nine years. He started acting when
<v Speaker 1>he was eight years old. And like some rely black
<v Speaker 1>and white Frankenstein movie. Really yes, yeah, has had a
<v Speaker 1>huge career. He was really well known in the seventies
<v Speaker 1>as Anthony Falconetti in the miniseries rich Man Poor Man. Okay,
<v Speaker 1>we know him because we talked about him being in
<v Speaker 1>both Rumblefish and The Outsiders. Yes, and he's in Conan
<v Speaker 1>the Barbarian, Yes, and Red Don.
<v Speaker 2>He's the general in Red Don.
<v Speaker 1>You got it.
<v Speaker 2>I didn't even think about that.
<v Speaker 1>There you go. He is a great character actor.
<v Speaker 2>First of all, he's muscled up. Oh yeah, and he
<v Speaker 2>when he's throwing those punches, I'm like, dude, this guy's
<v Speaker 2>a hurricane.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah you know. Yeah, he looked fierce, he did. And
<v Speaker 1>his nose it looks like his nose has probably been
<v Speaker 1>broken a couple of times. Like maybe he really has
<v Speaker 1>been in these fights. I mean, he was the perfect
<v Speaker 1>casting choice for the Apollo creed To Filo Betto.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's a great scene where he's sort of spying
<v Speaker 2>on Filo. He's befriended him and so he's hanging out
<v Speaker 2>with him.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this subterfuge of hey, do you mind if I
<v Speaker 1>jog with you? Yeah? How far have we gone? About
<v Speaker 1>five miles? How much further are we going? About another five? Yeah? Wow,
<v Speaker 1>it's a lot. Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's kind of like when you and I starting
<v Speaker 2>chogging together.
<v Speaker 1>It turns kind of.
<v Speaker 2>But they go to the bar together and somebody yells
<v Speaker 2>at Linn Halsey Taylor, who has wiggled her way back
<v Speaker 2>into Filo's heart somehow right, which you know, okay whatever,
<v Speaker 2>But he's like, why don't you get somebody that can sing?
<v Speaker 2>Which we as the audience are kind of like, yeah, dude,
<v Speaker 2>exactly yeah, and then.
<v Speaker 1>But we're also thinking you shouldn't be saying that's what
<v Speaker 1>that guy right behind you.
<v Speaker 2>And Jack Wilson says that's not polite. When he said that,
<v Speaker 2>I was like, look out, dude, this guy's gonna kill you.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you might get somebody can sing her here. That's
<v Speaker 1>not polite. I forget it.
<v Speaker 2>Complaining departments open now, Sonny.
<v Speaker 1>But again all just to sub refuse so that he
<v Speaker 1>can see how good Filo Betto can fight.
<v Speaker 2>Eats it like candy.
<v Speaker 1>He likes the pain. I know what you want to know.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I did. You're fast and you like pain. You
<v Speaker 3>eat it like candy.
<v Speaker 2>But it's cool. I really like the Jack Wilson character
<v Speaker 2>because number one, he's tough, yeah, but he's kind of friendly.
<v Speaker 1>He's likable.
<v Speaker 2>He's likable. He's like, let's forget this fight, man, there's
<v Speaker 2>no point to it. Let's just call it off.
<v Speaker 1>And then when they have the fight, well, I'm not
<v Speaker 1>going to give up. You gotta give up, right, I'm
<v Speaker 1>not gonna give up.
<v Speaker 2>No, your arm's broken. See, you need to give up.
<v Speaker 2>It's not over. Yeah, the final scene. Let's we'll talk
<v Speaker 2>about that here in Yeah, Okay, let's talk about the cast.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So we talked about the cast because there's a
<v Speaker 1>ton of carry over we talked about in our first episode. Obviously,
<v Speaker 1>William Smith is a new addition. And then we have
<v Speaker 1>the Mafia guys. Yes, they come in. You got Harry
<v Speaker 1>Gardino as Beakman. Yep. He was in several of the
<v Speaker 1>Dirty Harry movies. He was in Dirty Harry and he
<v Speaker 1>was in the Enforcer. Okay, and then you've got Michael Cavanaugh,
<v Speaker 1>who's the guy who comes to give him the money. Yes,
<v Speaker 1>he was also in The Enforcer.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, Yeah, let's talk about the bartender, mister James Gammon,
<v Speaker 2>who plays lou for Major League.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I got to talk to a guy about it,
<v Speaker 1>said a white Wall.
<v Speaker 2>Shut up, Dorn. He actually is like he's like File
<v Speaker 2>his friend, and he always protects Clyde at the bar.
<v Speaker 1>I love it. And the guy who's like giving Clyde
<v Speaker 1>trouble is dressed in a yellow suit like a panama.
<v Speaker 1>It's frigging brilliant right there. That is brilliant. Yes, another
<v Speaker 1>new care character we just talked about from our last
<v Speaker 1>episode where we had our dear friend, doctor Chad Briggs,
<v Speaker 1>wargame expert, talking about the movie War Games. Go check
<v Speaker 1>that out if you haven't heard it.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, but we from War Games.
<v Speaker 1>Not yet, but you know there it was comment.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Barry Corbyn, Barry Corbyn. I love his character in this.
<v Speaker 1>His character's name is fat Zach.
<v Speaker 2>Fat Zach. Yes, he's so Texas nice. You know, he's
<v Speaker 2>playing strip poker with the old ladies.
<v Speaker 1>And did you recognize Julie Brown?
<v Speaker 2>I did recognize Julie Brown.
<v Speaker 3>She'll show you the latest videos, Miss an Events, She'll show.
<v Speaker 1>You amazing things.
<v Speaker 3>You'll show you a really good time, Miss Toody Brown.
<v Speaker 1>Star seemed just say, Julie Wednesday said seven thirty six
<v Speaker 1>thirty Central and again on Sundays at one thirty twelve
<v Speaker 1>thirty Central, only on MTV. So don't touch that dial.
<v Speaker 1>You turn the channel, I will hunt you down and
<v Speaker 1>kill you like the dog you.
<v Speaker 2>Later after I'd seen MTV for a million hours.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this was before MTV, but not you know, not
<v Speaker 1>Downtown Julie Brown, but the other Juli Brown. Yeah, the
<v Speaker 1>other Julie Brown. Yes, what knockers. Well, thank you doctor.
<v Speaker 1>She was in this as one of the bimbos, if
<v Speaker 1>you will. Yes, playing strip poker and flying in the planes. Man,
<v Speaker 1>those guys, the Texas guys and their girlfriends was another
<v Speaker 1>bit of comedy gold for this movie.
<v Speaker 2>It was so fun right, they're flying upside down and
<v Speaker 2>the girls can't keep their moves in their shirt. By
<v Speaker 2>the way, Julie Brown's character's name is Candy, because of
<v Speaker 2>course it is like candy right now. Wait a minute,
<v Speaker 2>John Quaid's back.
<v Speaker 3>Yep, Lord, you have given me these crosses to bear
<v Speaker 3>and I will carry them all the way from Jerusalem
<v Speaker 3>to Jackson, whichever is closer.
<v Speaker 1>But hear me, Lord, so why walk through the Valley
<v Speaker 1>of the Shadow of Death.
<v Speaker 3>I will chew on filet petals half for my last.
<v Speaker 2>We have Ann freaking Ramsey in any which way you
<v Speaker 2>can do you know who Anne Ramsey is? When I
<v Speaker 2>say the name Anne Ramsey, what do you got for me?
<v Speaker 1>The night was Saltrey.
<v Speaker 2>One doesn't have any friends. She's Mama Frettellian the Goonies.
<v Speaker 1>Yes, she's Mama Fertellian the Goonies. She's Mama and throw
<v Speaker 1>Mama from the train. She's one of the homeless.
<v Speaker 2>People in Scrooge, which we talked about.
<v Speaker 1>Yep, go check out our Scrooge versus Christmas Vacation episode
<v Speaker 1>and she is in it with her husband Logan Ramsey. Yes,
<v Speaker 1>who is also one of the bums in Scrooge. Yes,
<v Speaker 1>that was one of the scenes that I remembered in
<v Speaker 1>the hotel when her when she's trying to pack the
<v Speaker 1>bag and he's looking at her and all of a
<v Speaker 1>sudden all he can see is the hula skirt dancing.
<v Speaker 1>I was like, that is freaking hysterical.
<v Speaker 2>Oh, it's so funny.
<v Speaker 1>It was gross when I was eleven, but the day
<v Speaker 1>it's hysterical.
<v Speaker 2>And Ramsey's butt Shagan got him going, and that is
<v Speaker 2>her actual real life husband. I wanted to bring up
<v Speaker 2>Michael Talbot to you. He plays Officer Morgan. So at
<v Speaker 2>the beginning of the movie, there's a really funny scene
<v Speaker 2>looks like Chips California Highway Patrol. They're riding their motorcycles
<v Speaker 2>because they're going to a fight, and a semi comes
<v Speaker 2>up behind him and he pulls his horn and it
<v Speaker 2>you can tell it scares the crap out of those guys,
<v Speaker 2>like legit scares them. Yes, Michael Talbot plays Officer Morgan.
<v Speaker 2>He's Swytech on Miami Vice. Oh wow, there's like Crockett
<v Speaker 2>and Tubs and then there's swy Tech and Zito. They're
<v Speaker 2>kind of the backup guys.
<v Speaker 1>So is he the guy who you see again at
<v Speaker 1>the very end of the movie Clyde onward. Oh that's fantastic.
<v Speaker 2>He gets decked by Clyde at the very end of their.
<v Speaker 1>How did we go through the entire first episode and
<v Speaker 1>not say right, turn Clyde?
<v Speaker 2>We did it because it wasn't in every which way
<v Speaker 2>but loose.
<v Speaker 1>Can you believe it? I know right that incredibly fam
<v Speaker 1>miss line was not in the first movie. It did
<v Speaker 1>not come along until the second movie. And once again
<v Speaker 1>they took that comedy up a notch and knocked all
<v Speaker 1>those guys down like Domino's h I was freaking hysterical.
<v Speaker 2>If you've never seen either of these two movies, I
<v Speaker 2>would say there's at least a decent chance that you've
<v Speaker 2>heard the term right Turn, Clyde.
<v Speaker 1>Right Turn and Clyde.
<v Speaker 2>By the way, my daughter was walking through the room
<v Speaker 2>and she could care less about movies from before she
<v Speaker 2>was born, right, But I said, no, wait, you gotta
<v Speaker 2>watch this part. The motorcycle gang pulls up. They're giving
<v Speaker 2>Filo Betto a hard time. Yeah, you know what we're
<v Speaker 2>gonna do to you, Filo. You know all this, And
<v Speaker 2>and finally he's had enough and he's like whatever, right
<v Speaker 2>turn Clyde, and the monkey goes and he punches Chola
<v Speaker 2>and then they all Domino over and Ava thought it
<v Speaker 2>was hilarious.
<v Speaker 1>That's great. I tried to watch this movie with Caleb. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>we get to that part and I'm like giddy, I'm
<v Speaker 1>ready and all of a sudd and Caleb's like, you're
<v Speaker 1>flipping them off and you're talking through it. Why are
<v Speaker 1>you talking through He's like what. I'm like, dude, you
<v Speaker 1>missed it.
<v Speaker 2>Oh he messed it up.
<v Speaker 1>Yes, so I had rewind and on the rewind, it's
<v Speaker 1>not as funny. That's funny.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Okay, do you I've got a couple of funny
<v Speaker 2>moments that I want to talk to you about. I've
<v Speaker 2>actually also got a couple of serious moments that I
<v Speaker 2>want to talk to you about. And I think the
<v Speaker 2>balance of these two things is what really works in
<v Speaker 2>this movie. Okay, So at the beginning of the movie,
<v Speaker 2>Clint Eastwood is in this bare knuckled brawler fight with
<v Speaker 2>the guy who beat up all the Marines, right, and
<v Speaker 2>they have this running joke where he's beat all the
<v Speaker 2>Marines and Clint's like, I ain't a marine. And so
<v Speaker 2>there's this great fight going on. The guy is so sunburned,
<v Speaker 2>Like every time I watch the movie, I'm like, dude,
<v Speaker 2>you're so sunburned. Help this dude out with some sunblock.
<v Speaker 2>But during the fight, I mean, it's serious, he's trying,
<v Speaker 2>you know. They're beating each other up and there's a
<v Speaker 2>couple of girls in their cheering yay and they're hopping
<v Speaker 2>up and down and Clint gets distracted because their mob's
<v Speaker 2>are bouncing up and down and he gets decked.
<v Speaker 1>It was the seventies, they were not a fan of
<v Speaker 1>bras back and then no, they weren't.
<v Speaker 2>And while this is going on, Clyde is roaming around
<v Speaker 2>and he gets into a cop car and takes the dump,
<v Speaker 2>takes a dumb in the cop car. So just that
<v Speaker 2>scene just really worked for me. Right, it's funny. Then
<v Speaker 2>you've got Chola saying the great lines like the whole
<v Speaker 2>time and why mey lord.
<v Speaker 3>Lord, I mean you made other men out of clay Mine.
<v Speaker 1>When the bikers show up after they have been detarred, we.
<v Speaker 2>Got to talk about the tar scene, but I mean
<v Speaker 2>that whole scene is brilliant.
<v Speaker 1>I mean it beats the chase scene from the first movie,
<v Speaker 1>which was not bad, but it definitely takes all.
<v Speaker 2>It's just everything's better, right.
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, they go through the tar and they're in
<v Speaker 1>the alleyway. They've got him out numbered getting and then
<v Speaker 1>they all freeze.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because they got tar pulls.
<v Speaker 1>All are has hardened and they all fall on each
<v Speaker 1>other like statues. And then Bilo Betta does the right thing.
<v Speaker 1>He takes him to the hospital and has them detarred.
<v Speaker 1>And when they show up and they've got no hair
<v Speaker 1>at all anymore, and so what they have to do
<v Speaker 1>he has to pass out the wigs. I'm like this,
<v Speaker 1>and I when I when I am eleven years old,
<v Speaker 1>I'm watching this. I'm like, this is comedy, freaking old comedy.
<v Speaker 2>Guilt well, and as an adult, when they they all
<v Speaker 2>freeze up because they got tar all over themselves and
<v Speaker 2>they fall over and Chola is face down and he
<v Speaker 2>keeps saying, you're paying for that betto it's very Yosemite,
<v Speaker 2>Samloe right right, And in fact, there's a lot of
<v Speaker 2>sort of looney tunes and references I think in this movie.
<v Speaker 2>But and Filo says to lynn Linn Halsey Taylor can't
<v Speaker 2>leave him here. The dogs a piss on him. Ain't
<v Speaker 2>fair to the dogs. And then you don't pay for
<v Speaker 2>that battle.
<v Speaker 1>We mentioned our last episode that the ape on this one,
<v Speaker 1>the Orangutang, is a different actor than the original Clyde.
<v Speaker 1>Original Clyde was an ape named Manus or Manis manus H,
<v Speaker 1>an ape named Manis and this one is an ape
<v Speaker 1>named Buddha. Yes, and apparently Buddha had been involved in
<v Speaker 1>a movie where he would he had been trained to wrestle,
<v Speaker 1>And so Sondra Locke had no scenes with Clyde in
<v Speaker 1>the first movie, but she had a bunch of scenes
<v Speaker 1>and a lot of them involved him kissing her. And
<v Speaker 1>she said he would grab me by the back of
<v Speaker 1>the neck for the kiss and when I tried to
<v Speaker 1>pull away, he would put the wrestling move on me,
<v Speaker 1>and I was getting a little panic.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, we are kissing. You don't understand you are kissing me.
<v Speaker 2>The strip poker scenes with Fat Zach the Upside Down Jet,
<v Speaker 2>there's a scene I heard Barry Corbyn talking about this.
<v Speaker 2>It's like his first day working with Clint Eastwood, like
<v Speaker 2>the first morning of the first day.
<v Speaker 1>Oh wow.
<v Speaker 2>And he's trailing him in a car because he's supposed
<v Speaker 2>to be kind of spying on him, and I was jogging,
<v Speaker 2>he's working out, and all of a sudden he whips around,
<v Speaker 2>comes over and punches out the window. Okay, right, so
<v Speaker 2>clinics Wood punches out the window and when he did,
<v Speaker 2>he punched Barry Kordman in the face. And he still
<v Speaker 2>had to keep going because he got this fake glass
<v Speaker 2>and they can't. They don't have time for reshoots, they
<v Speaker 2>you know, all that stuff. So he he yanks him
<v Speaker 2>out of the car and he's like, were you crazy?
<v Speaker 1>You just push them?
<v Speaker 2>Let me see your hand, wait with your fringers. We
<v Speaker 2>talked about that in our War Games episode. Do you
<v Speaker 2>see the way he just yanked me out of What
<v Speaker 2>are you doing? Stand and get back to jogging. That
<v Speaker 2>whole state is great.
<v Speaker 1>It is fantastic. This is another thing that they did right.
<v Speaker 1>And this one I think had to be inspirational for
<v Speaker 1>Burt Reynolds movies to come because this is nineteen eighty right,
<v Speaker 1>But they have this huge like everybody goes to this
<v Speaker 1>central location, right, They're all like all points across the country.
<v Speaker 1>People are coming to this light. Yeah, the little old
<v Speaker 1>lady are coming to this fight. That black Widows are
<v Speaker 1>coming to the fight. The Dallas Cowboys, Sorry that didn't
<v Speaker 1>not the team. The cowboys from Dallas are coming back
<v Speaker 1>to this fight. The Mafia members from New York are
<v Speaker 1>coming to this fight. So you get this little town
<v Speaker 1>that is completely overwhelmed by all of these different, very
<v Speaker 1>caricature characters, which Cannonball Run is the exact same, Like
<v Speaker 1>it's all kinds of these different characters. Yeah. So yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I think is again brilliant, brilliant what they did with this.
<v Speaker 2>By the way, the town square of Jackson Hall had
<v Speaker 2>to shut down for like a week in the middle
<v Speaker 2>of June or July, which is their high season, and
<v Speaker 2>there were some businesses that were a little bit unhappy
<v Speaker 2>about that. Yeah, but one business in particular, where they
<v Speaker 2>they crash through the Italian restaurant. They were like on
<v Speaker 2>the brink of bankruptcy, and because of the success of
<v Speaker 2>the movie, they were able to kind of gave them
<v Speaker 2>a second life.
<v Speaker 1>Oh nice.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, a couple of serious moments I wanted to bring
<v Speaker 2>up to you. Okay, So number one, we talked about
<v Speaker 2>how Jack Wilson is tough and you're actually you're in
<v Speaker 2>fear of this guy, right, He's sure. He's a killer,
<v Speaker 2>he's a threat. He's killed two men that this year. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>well only one. Well yeah, but the other one from
<v Speaker 2>the neck down, you know, right right, right right. Then
<v Speaker 2>there's a moment where Clint actually teaches Clyde how to
<v Speaker 2>date rape.
<v Speaker 1>That's that's pretty bad. Yeah, that's pretty bad.
<v Speaker 2>Just poker in the butt with this.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, that's pretty bad. Doesn't somebody else get end
<v Speaker 1>up getting poked?
<v Speaker 2>Clyde pokes himself. Thought, Yeah, there's a scene where the
<v Speaker 2>bad guys do this home invasion and Maw is like,
<v Speaker 2>we're scared for ma, you know. Then Filo gets beat
<v Speaker 2>up and Clyde has to like pull him from a
<v Speaker 2>burning vehicle. Yeah, kind of saves his life. And so
<v Speaker 2>there's there's serious moments, kind of drama.
<v Speaker 1>You know, you gotta have a little bit of drama
<v Speaker 1>with your comedy or we'll.
<v Speaker 2>Get shot, you know. And then the end scene, we've
<v Speaker 2>got to talk about the n scene.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, before we get to the end scene. Okay, I
<v Speaker 1>realized that you've covered comedy moments already. Yes, but the
<v Speaker 1>scene with the hotel room where Clyde has got his
<v Speaker 1>girlfriend in one room, yes, and he's showing off for her, yes,
<v Speaker 1>And Filo has got Linn Halsey Taylor and the other
<v Speaker 1>one and she's like, I wish you'd show off for me.
<v Speaker 1>And so he's hanging by the chandelier like there's no
<v Speaker 1>way that some cheap motel room chandelier is going to
<v Speaker 1>hold her face. But we'll go with it for this right.
<v Speaker 1>Then you got Anne Ramsey and her husband over there
<v Speaker 1>hula dancing. He tries to lift up the chair. Oh
<v Speaker 1>my man, that was so brave what she did there.
<v Speaker 1>And then you've got the hotel manager who is a.
<v Speaker 2>Peeping tom is.
<v Speaker 1>He's a peeping tom and Ma catches him. He gets
<v Speaker 1>all amorous and she kicks him in the ball.
<v Speaker 2>She crushes his balls and then is like, what have
<v Speaker 2>I done? The first one in twenty years? And then
<v Speaker 2>she's like nurses him back to help because she wants
<v Speaker 2>to get lucky.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah she does, and then like and whistling.
<v Speaker 2>The next day she is, She's like, she's acting crazy.
<v Speaker 2>She hasn't act this way since all. But then you
<v Speaker 2>have that whole scene where they reenact the scene from ten,
<v Speaker 2>the movie ten.
<v Speaker 1>Oh gosh, that was horrified. It was absolutely that was
<v Speaker 1>so funny.
<v Speaker 2>So you have Bo Derek running down the beach like
<v Speaker 2>the movie ten, and they've superimposed moss face over her.
<v Speaker 1>Oh it's so bad.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's great, man.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So once again we've got another very early eighties soundtrack.
<v Speaker 1>We got the country going strong here, and our title
<v Speaker 1>song is by none other than mister Glenn Freaking Campbell,
<v Speaker 1>the Ryanstone cowboy himself called any which way you can
<v Speaker 1>and then you've got a whole soundtrack on this one
<v Speaker 1>beers too you. Yeah, that might not be the best
<v Speaker 1>the best one you go to, but you're the reason
<v Speaker 1>God made Oklahoma was a single off of this and
<v Speaker 1>it did fantastic. Yeah, You've got Whiskey Heaven by Fat
<v Speaker 1>Him Yeah, by Fats Domino, I mean Fats Domino and
<v Speaker 1>a cowboy hat. I can't beat it right now, Sondralock tortures.
<v Speaker 1>This song called one Too Many Women in Your Life,
<v Speaker 1>But that one was written by John Durrell and mister
<v Speaker 1>Phil Everley himself of the Everly Brothers, which we've talked
<v Speaker 1>about before because and Roses episode.
<v Speaker 2>Mister Phil Everly is Don Everly's brother, who is the
<v Speaker 2>dad of Aaron Everly, who was.
<v Speaker 1>Let's switch out.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, by the way, no one else the song the
<v Speaker 2>one too Many Women in your Life? Yes, one that
<v Speaker 2>you love and one you call your wife. I think
<v Speaker 2>it's how the lyrics go. Yeah, oddly sort of interesting, right, yeah,
<v Speaker 2>kind of close to home there.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, by the way, speaking of that, I think I
<v Speaker 1>read I think on the Wikipedia page for Clint Eastwood.
<v Speaker 1>It says that he has at least nine kids. Like,
<v Speaker 1>he's very private about how many kids he has, but
<v Speaker 1>we know they're at least nine. Yeah, there may be
<v Speaker 1>more and probably are.
<v Speaker 2>I would say highly likely that there are.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, the guy has been a movie star for
<v Speaker 1>seventy years.
<v Speaker 2>You know who he never had a child with.
<v Speaker 1>Though, Sondra Locke.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, let's not talk about it.
<v Speaker 1>Let's not talk about Okay.
<v Speaker 2>By the way, I just want to drop this little
<v Speaker 2>nugget to you. When they're staying in Jackson Hole, the
<v Speaker 2>hotel manager gets a little amorous with Clyde, who's dressed
<v Speaker 2>up in a nightgown.
<v Speaker 1>Right, it's up with that, right.
<v Speaker 2>It was so bizarre, all right, And Clyde like lifts
<v Speaker 2>up his ninety or whatever and it's it's just weird,
<v Speaker 2>but it's funny. Just a side note, he's actually looking
<v Speaker 2>at a Playboy.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>That Playboy is from June nineteen eighty. Okay, you mentioned
<v Speaker 2>how this movie was shot in the summer of nineteen eighty.
<v Speaker 1>Correct.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that June nineteen eighty magazine of Playboy is the
<v Speaker 2>one that features Dorothy Stratton of Star eighty, Star eighty,
<v Speaker 2>who was murdered by her boyfriend. Wow, so, oh my gosh,
<v Speaker 2>there you go.
<v Speaker 1>Yep, Peter Bogdanovitch's girlfriend. Yes, there's a movie I never
<v Speaker 1>want to discuss. By the way, if you wanted to
<v Speaker 1>put Star eighty on your list, find a guest host
<v Speaker 1>that's not me for that one's no thinks, no way. Okay, okay,
<v Speaker 1>back to fun stuff. Yeah, okay, So first movie, most
<v Speaker 1>profitable movie that Clint east would have ever made. Yep,
<v Speaker 1>this movie first weekend came in at number one, Yes,
<v Speaker 1>grossing eight million dollars. Yes. The second weekend, Yes, stayed
<v Speaker 1>at number one and made ten million dollars.
<v Speaker 2>Really, it went up for the second weekend.
<v Speaker 1>It resulted are you ready for this? Yes? It resulted
<v Speaker 1>in a record for the single day gross for Warner Brothers.
<v Speaker 1>Guess what movie it beat? I don't know what. Do
<v Speaker 1>you got? Superman?
<v Speaker 2>Oh?
<v Speaker 1>So it turns out Philo Beto can beat Superman. There
<v Speaker 1>you go.
<v Speaker 2>By the way, they looked at Clint Eastwood to play
<v Speaker 2>the part of Superman. Yeah, if memory serves credit him
<v Speaker 2>in about one hundred other people, now then that's right,
<v Speaker 2>including Al Pacino and Sylvester Slim. This movie was the
<v Speaker 2>fifth highest grossing movie of nineteen eighty.
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what the.
<v Speaker 2>Four higher ones are, right, but I bet my paycheck
<v Speaker 2>that Emprere Strikes Back was number one. Sure, another incredibly
<v Speaker 2>successful movie for Clint Easwood. YEP, both of these movies.
<v Speaker 2>When we talk about Clint Eastwood, these movies are kind
<v Speaker 2>of forgotten. Nobody ever brings these up.
<v Speaker 1>They don't come up. I mean, you get the Cowboy movies,
<v Speaker 1>you get the Dirty Harry movies, and you get the
<v Speaker 1>movies that he's directed, but you don't get these. And
<v Speaker 1>these are two of the most successful movies of all time,
<v Speaker 1>let alone for him.
<v Speaker 2>I know.
<v Speaker 1>So are we a final judgment? Yet we are? We are? Okay.
<v Speaker 1>I don't mind going first because I've tipped my hand ready.
<v Speaker 1>They figured out everything that went wrong in the first one,
<v Speaker 1>and they did it right in the second one. And
<v Speaker 1>the first one was still great, So that meant yes,
<v Speaker 1>I can see how it went up. I can see
<v Speaker 1>how people went another sequel, This won't be as good.
<v Speaker 1>First weekend, eight million dollars worth of folks showed up,
<v Speaker 1>and then after the word of mouth of they did better,
<v Speaker 1>they brought it home with this one. The comedy is better,
<v Speaker 1>the filming is better, the timing is better, the villain
<v Speaker 1>is there and he's better and he's not even a
<v Speaker 1>villain really, So without question, any which way you can
<v Speaker 1>beats out every which way but loose, and they're both
<v Speaker 1>fantastic movies. Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>So, in fact, the way we kind of started down
<v Speaker 2>this road, you and I, this wasn't even really on
<v Speaker 2>our schedule, but somehow we got into conversation about this.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we're talking about William Smith. When we were we
<v Speaker 1>talked about him being in Rumblefish, Rumblefish and the Outsiders,
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, this is the guy. This was
<v Speaker 1>the guy who's the bad guy in the Clint Eastwood
<v Speaker 1>every which way but loose, and you were like, no,
<v Speaker 1>it was any which way you can. And I'm like, okay,
<v Speaker 1>do you like that movie?
<v Speaker 3>Yes?
<v Speaker 1>I love that Let's do it right. So yeah, all right.
<v Speaker 2>So for my final judgment, yes, I've already sipped my
<v Speaker 2>hand as well. I totally agree with you. They took
<v Speaker 2>the first movie like wise people, they analyzed what worked.
<v Speaker 2>There were some funny moments with the Black Widows. The
<v Speaker 2>Orangutang was funny. Clint has a presence on the screen
<v Speaker 2>he's a movie star of the ages. Let's maximize that.
<v Speaker 2>Let's put the romance in the back seat. Lyn Halsey
<v Speaker 2>Taylor can come along. That's fine, but the focus is
<v Speaker 2>not the romance. We've got action, We've got bad guys,
<v Speaker 2>We've got a road movie. We've got this wacky convergence
<v Speaker 2>in Jackson Hole right turn Clyde. It's at least twice
<v Speaker 2>as good and probably three times as good as every
<v Speaker 2>which way but lose. Wow, I'm spiking my football. Any
<v Speaker 2>which way you can is the way better movie. And
<v Speaker 2>I still I still love it, and it's so much fun.
<v Speaker 2>I had a great time doing this.
<v Speaker 1>If you can only watch one of these movies, watch
<v Speaker 1>any which way you can. You don't need to have
<v Speaker 1>seen the first one to understand what's going on in
<v Speaker 1>the second one at all. They do it right. This
<v Speaker 1>time they start with the fight to let you know
<v Speaker 1>who he is, and they end with a fight, and
<v Speaker 1>this time again they do it right, and spoiler alert,
<v Speaker 1>he wins. Yeah. But man, it's a good fight.
<v Speaker 2>One of the best, one of the best, as as
<v Speaker 2>fat Zach says, it's one of the best fights I've
<v Speaker 2>ever seen in the mine tirely so absolutely love it.
<v Speaker 2>By the way, every which way but Loose is available
<v Speaker 2>on HBO Max right now, any which way you can.
<v Speaker 2>I had to get from my library. It was really
<v Speaker 2>tough to get it.
<v Speaker 1>I think I get it off of Prime, did you Okay?
<v Speaker 1>I got Amazon Prime. Okay, it's worth the four bucks.
<v Speaker 1>Go watch this movie for sure. A lot of fun.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, what we got next week?
<v Speaker 1>We have got the Great Outdoors. Yes, and then from
<v Speaker 1>nineteen eighty three talk about Beverly DiAngelo and her wonderful body.
<v Speaker 1>We have got National AMPLI Vacation to Vacation movies celebrating
<v Speaker 1>their thirty fifth and fortieth anniversaries this year. I can't wait.
<v Speaker 1>And you know, shoot, Dan Aykroyd, John Canny, Chevy Chase
<v Speaker 1>signed me Freaking.
<v Speaker 2>Up absolutely both written by John Hughes. Yeah, a lot
<v Speaker 2>of people don't know that it's crazy. We're gonna have
<v Speaker 2>a great time with that. That is next week. Come
<v Speaker 2>back next week and join us for a vacation down
<v Speaker 2>holiday Road.