RHOBH Recap: SHE-IN, Dorit Out! With Alexis Bellino

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Speaker 1: Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King. I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your favorite shows from the Real house Boss of Atlanta, New Jersey and my own creation, The Love and Marriage Franchise and Bell Collective. Every episode, we recap reality television from the Real Housewives Franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset, in addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted.

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Speaker 2: Space or scripted as well. Hey, rain drops on today's episode Reality with the King. One thing about me, You guys asked and I listen.

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Speaker 1: You all enjoyed what we were doing with the recap of the Real house Bots Morris County, and I'm so happy to have my girl back to recap the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills.

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Speaker 2: Give it up for the one the Only Alexis Jansen. Where did be that?

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Speaker 3: And I had to put on a little of my Beverly Hills makes you feel like you gotta step up your game, Carlos.

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Speaker 4: Okay, check out my get up. Don't expect this every time, Honey, look at my hair, love it. Look at me.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, if I'm gonna if I'm gonna pod about them.

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Speaker 4: I gotta I gotta get my glam squad here like cythe did not. I did not do that. I did it myself.

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Speaker 3: But Dad, I am so excited to recap them because boy, does it make you really feel like you got to step up your game. But I have a more important question for you because you were around someone that we're going to discuss today.

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Speaker 5: Uh this weekend.

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Speaker 2: You were yesterday.

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Speaker 4: It's not a weekend, but.

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Speaker 3: You were with Mauricio in Miami and you got to bump shoulders.

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Speaker 2: Uh. Yeah, I was bumpy shoulders. I couldn't bump anything else because he's.

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Speaker 4: There's no bump than anything else. I know you wish that he's so, but I know he's your crush.

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Speaker 1: Great Robs, Alexis, You're married to a beautiful man yourself, So I'll just live out the fantasy for you. But what I will say is everything and person.

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Speaker 2: Is better and time.

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Speaker 1: Oh just everything and extremely nice, extremely sweet. So yes, he is a spokesperson for this clothing brand called Ari our friend and your publicist Spencer is representing him too. So he had the event during our bas A week in Miami.

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Speaker 2: So it was fun. It was a great time. And look even better in person. That's all I'll say.

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Speaker 3: See that, I'm like, I can tell he's your like, like if you get a hall pass, you know how when you're married you get a hall.

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Speaker 4: Pass for Hollywood people. Okay, he's your hall pass.

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Speaker 3: I can tell with which whatever man you end up with, you're gonna be like, Okay, honey, Marikio is my hall past?

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Speaker 2: Okay, yes, no, it is quality.

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Speaker 3: That's all you have to do. It's not that big of a deal. You just have to convert him.

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Speaker 1: A right, right, We're is gonna be very more challenging. Listen, maybe not as challenging as it is. As we saw Durit walk up with two orange boxes to Bose's house to begin the premiere, which I thought, listen to me, Alexis, I thought that was a middle finger of flex to the audience, because I don't know if you know this. There's a lot of people who love to say that they think Dery is broke.

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Speaker 2: Subton called her poor reed Watts said to.

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Speaker 1: Argue with somebody whose wallet matches your size, and their a legend that she rents closed. So the fact that she bought bows a two thousand dollars or mess blanket. I'm like, go ahead, Duri, let these motherfuckers know you got money.

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Speaker 3: Well, first of all, why is there a rumor that she's broke?

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Speaker 4: Like where does that come from? Like that PK doesn't work?

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Speaker 3: Or they just like where does this rumor even stem from?

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Speaker 2: It started? Honestly from there?

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Speaker 1: Okay, from her cast makes who have been like planting these shady seeds about you know, and and listen, who has been leading with charge to Lexis has been Sutton who has questioned the validity of Deury's finances, and social media has ran with this.

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Speaker 2: So we I've never seen her bank statement.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if she banks out Will's, Fargo Chase or Bank of from America, But there you go.

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Speaker 4: H Okay, So I'm all I'm gonna say, I'm gonna put it out there.

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Speaker 3: I don't give a farfag nougan if she is broke as a joke or wealthy as a healthy I don't care, because here's the here's the deal.

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Speaker 4: God did not bless.

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Speaker 3: Me with her body, her style and fashion, or her bank account. I don't care what it is. But it's like, who cares if she can pull it off? Why does it matter, Carlos, Why does it matter?

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Speaker 4: I mean, who cares.

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Speaker 3: If she's broke and she still can pull look that luxurious and and bring arimes gift bags, and I mean I just feel like everyone's looking to pick it something and and that's just like who cares?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you think?

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Speaker 5: Well, maybe the women are thinking.

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Speaker 3: Maybe the women are thinking, but wait, she's portraying a persona that is not true or authentic. But at the same time, it's like, if she can pull it off and hang with those women, because all I.

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Speaker 4: Know is I feel like I need to go shop at Ermez some more. I just need their checkbook. Okay, they'll let me burn feel like I feel like, I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I think it's fine if she can.

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Speaker 3: Pull it off and look, yes, she's hot as heck, and I just want her accent, Carlos, Is there any way.

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Speaker 4: We can work something out or we can figure out how I can get that accent?

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Speaker 1: Because well, I know, I mean, you know, she's well traveled. She has a lot of stiffs on her passport, and we want to go to the the.

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Speaker 2: Read School of Language.

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Speaker 1: You do it, Tea, because you know, we have to figure out how to attain that accent.

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Speaker 2: I'm I'm with you, though.

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Speaker 1: What I don't want to attain is the sheen version of Deite that is dating her husband PK.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, that line is so incredible.

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Speaker 1: No Bose kilt it with that one. So Deree revealed in this episode that she saw the picture of p K making out with this woman in the middle of the street in California, and the next day is when she filed for divorce. I would have to say, listen, I lived in Los Angeles. Los Angeles one of those places to where there are paparazzi hotspots, Crag and Catch and Delilah's.

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Speaker 2: The list goes on and on.

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Speaker 1: I don't know where the photo was taken, but I do belie Lee PK is a smart man, and I believe that he allegedly may out in the middle of the street as a pseudo celebrity with another one man to get onto d reed scan.

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Speaker 2: That's my opinion.

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Speaker 4: You really think that, yes, I okay, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Because I'm not I don't live in Beverly Hills, but I do know that I've been I'm a Z list celebrity, Z list celebrity.

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Speaker 5: Okay, please you.

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Speaker 4: Caught me on Rodeo drive.

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Speaker 3: I do know that they've caught me coming out of Craigs, which I get that, but I just love Craig's food and I love Craig, So I don't know. It's like, why should you not go there because you know the Papa Rocks, You're going to be there, But then I don't know where pk or Mauricio. Let's let's wrap Mauricio into this.

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Speaker 2: Little pathat let's do it. Okay.

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Speaker 3: He got caught kissing that girl you know where one of Kyle's daughters saw. They flashed the photo of him picking her up like this and giving her a kiss. That was somewhere in La So how do we not know that these people are are there?

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Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know.

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Speaker 5: Here's the deal.

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Speaker 3: Okay, John and I first got together, and it was not quite out that we were like together together yet, and somebody did send a paparazzi down here and they were sitting outside of John's house okay, and they caught us and the photo was on the internet. They caught us going to church and going to a coffee shop in church. Swear it all my life, not all because we weren't even really coming out with everybody. We were like trying to you know. So they they stacked outside of his house. That's one two is and we didn't call them. So this is why I'm putting this.

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Speaker 2: I want they have the bro call these people.

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Speaker 5: Well, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know. I don't even I don't know. But here's the problem. Here's why I don't. I'm confused about if I believe people all pop parazzi or not. I want you to really think about this. Carlos something that we did not do. Okay, but then Mike and I first divorced Jim. Okay, he is caught kissing a girl in Vegas, and it was like a week or two after we filed, so we aren't We had not signed on the dot yet. And do you really believe someone's in Vegas like ready to just sit there. And I've never seen a paparazzi in Vegas in my entire life. And I've been on TV for fifteen years or six. I've never seen paparazzi just walking around in Vegas. Okay, so unless you're at an event that they're called for.

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Speaker 4: So I do believe paparazzi can be called.

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Speaker 3: I just don't know if I can buy into it for the Piku and the Mauricio, because do.

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Speaker 4: You think Mauricio really wanted that picture? I mean that one I listen.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know, I don't know. I do think this though, I find it very interesting. That is the men who are call kissing these women in places the middle of the street for PK and where we learned this episode from Kyle and Mauricio's daughters was that picture that we saw Mauricio picking up the girl that was out of Valet station like Vallet and I just think that you gotta be a little bit more. Your situation is different. They were at John's house. That's why I'm like, oh, we were.

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Speaker 4: Leaving at like eight o'clock in the morning. It was the weirdest thing.

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Speaker 3: We didn't see them what follow us, but they had to be camping out because then they followed, or they were at the coffee shop.

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Speaker 5: They must have followed.

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Speaker 3: I don't even know. But the shot they got it was really freaking bizarre.

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Speaker 4: And it was like.

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Speaker 3: John looked so mad and like he was just like walking like we're just walking to we're going ready go to church. It was the weirdest thing ever, so and I promise you on my life that I did not. I don't even know where to call the paparazzi, call Spencer and say Spence, bring someone here for me or something.

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Speaker 4: But I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I feel like at the valet, that could have been a valet attendee, that could have been someone else snapping that that then sold it to TMZ or to someone else.

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Speaker 5: You gotta think about that too for the piquet situation. I mean, I don't know.

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Speaker 4: It is true. You're right, it's the guys.

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Speaker 3: But here's the reason the women out are The women aren't out liplocking with people on the street.

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Speaker 4: They're much more discreet.

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Speaker 3: And why is than that? You know, wiser than that? So I could go both ways.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, it definitely couldn't. Listen.

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Speaker 1: We haven't seen Kyle and Morgan do anything intimate besides the simulation and.

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Speaker 2: The music video, so maybe the women are more discreet.

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Speaker 1: But what we learned with Deuritt talking to Bowse about this situation is she brought up the fact that Kyle.

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Speaker 2: Has not text her when it first came.

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Speaker 1: Out, and that she texts her four days after the picture was revealed. I'm gonna say this not to be a Kyle apologist, because I'm very honest here. I don't think Kyle Ow's doing anything to contact her immediately.

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Speaker 2: I don't.

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Speaker 1: You guys aren't best of friends like you used to be. I think the fact that she reached out.

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Speaker 2: In general is enough.

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Speaker 1: Kyle has her own life, she's a mother of five daughters, four or five daughters, and she's dealing with the divorce herself. So I listen, I love to read.

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Speaker 2: I call bullshit on.

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Speaker 1: Derey trying to act like Kyle was being a good friend, trying to work on their friendship by contacting her four days later. Who are you for Kyle to immediately call Donal Want. You're not Morgan, You're not Kathy Hilton, you're not Ken Richard's.

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Speaker 2: They're not even Erica Jane, no, Shaden.

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Speaker 4: Good point, and you know, to further with that, go further with that.

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Speaker 3: I agree with you on that, But I also thought, and I love Dorrit Okay, I'm sorry, I just do. But the other part of that is I might want to give my friends some space to kind of like process it all, Like I don't know that I would be like, if it's if it's not your inner circle, like your best friend, I don't know that if it was my second or third layer friend like Deury is to Kyle.

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Speaker 5: Right now, I don't know that I would just pick up the phone right then.

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Speaker 3: I think I might be like, let's let her go through the motions with all her other best friends and get through, and then I'm just gonna let her know what I am thinking about her. And I hear that, so I think that that could be a take on it.

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Speaker 2: Also, Yeah, I was just I feel like the Ree was. I feel like the Ree was trying to.

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Speaker 1: Make a moment out of seeing her and Kyle at odd again this season. And let me tell you something, I don't want to see it. It dominated last season. It was entertaining. I was invested. I'm not invested anymore. Who. What I am invested in is the fact that Rachel Zoe is back on Bravo and alexis so rang jobs. That's why you have to watch this on YouTube as well, because alexis kingdom contained herself.

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Speaker 2: Rayel Zoe is back and I'm here for it.

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Speaker 4: We have needed her our whole life.

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Speaker 5: To be on TV.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, she's everything.

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Speaker 3: First of all, her fashion, I can't even I'm like cooking at the Slobrary. I'm like, oh my, get her fashion, No wonder.

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Speaker 4: She is where she is?

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Speaker 1: This is reality with the King and I'm Carlos King. Let's get back into the show.

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Speaker 2: The Nine Inch Platform, Hills.

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Speaker 5: Walking On, Walking On, Stilt's Baby.

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Speaker 2: Love Love Love, just love, just love love.

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Speaker 4: And she's her character on the show, like her.

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Speaker 3: Her personality is just so I mean, you just can't get enough of it. And I never watched her on her other I love how they did the flashbacks to twenty ten.

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Speaker 4: I never watched her. Did you watch any of those?

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Speaker 1: Oh? I loved her show, The Rachel's Owe Project. I was a huge fan of it. It was the first fashion show, not fashion show I probably run Away was, but the first fashion docu series that was hemmed by this iconic stylist who at the time she styled everybody from Paris Hilton to Lizzie Lohan and she dominated the early two thousand e Girl to get caught up to what she is going through right now, I was, listen, let me tell you something. Alexis Jansen, the fact that she was with her ex husband before they were married. They were together for thirty three years, married twenty six years. Her ex husband Roger, and how she was saying without saying, Alexis and I need to get your thoughts because obviously you know what a divorce looks like.

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Speaker 2: She was saying.

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Speaker 1: Without saying that Roger was a different person to her, and that his personality allegedly his personality changed once they had children, and it appeared that she was alleging.

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Speaker 2: That Roger was not a nice person, to say the least.

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Speaker 3: I didn't necessarily get that from it, and we have to have our own takes on the scene.

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Speaker 2: Correct.

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Speaker 3: Of course, I didn't necessarily think that she was saying he was not a nice person. I think she said we grew apart, and that is the sad part, Carlos, is that you if you don't know if you're going to grow apart from the person you're with, you hope you go together and you have to really work on it.

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Speaker 5: It's work.

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Speaker 3: I did definitely feel in her voice and and the way she was talking that she didn't like the person he was becoming or the person that he you know, she said he was grateful dead and she's a Saint Bart's or something like that.

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Speaker 2: Right, he said just that, Yeah, that was it. You got it right anyway.

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Speaker 3: But so she said that, and I in my mind, I'm like, that could really be interesting opposite the tract, but I can see how it can also be a disaster. However, to be together for thirty three years and and have you know, beautiful children. I think she said they didn't have kids till eighteen years after they met.

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Speaker 4: Eighteen years.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm sorry, but kids do throw a curve in your marriage. They do, and they they they change your work because you know, so I I get that that could have caused something. I didn't like the scenes I saw that Bravo snapped back to or flashed back to about him where he's kind of snapping.

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Speaker 4: I didn't like the.

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Speaker 3: Almost arrogance but also kind of anger that was coming out of him in those scenes. Who knows if that's how he's like all the time, because you know, they made me look so ditsy when it's like everybody can see now, I'm not really like that, but it doesn't You don't know, you don't know what they're gonna snip on.

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Speaker 4: And then and then air.

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Speaker 2: So that's fair. I actually listened to your point.

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Speaker 1: To your point, that's why I came up with the assumption that he was a mean person to her based on the flashbacks of him being, you know, not so nice when it came to being at work. Now, granted, they did use the footage when she said, look, I gotta give y'all something, So let me just say one of the things that didn't help the fact that we worked together, and then they flashed back to him and work in work mode, which, listen, you could be a different person in work mode than you.

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Speaker 2: Are when you're not at work.

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Speaker 1: Unfortunately, when it comes to working couples, it's hard to turn it on and off.

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Speaker 2: When you are at home.

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Speaker 1: And that's w h Robert Rachel said, you know, when they first got separated, she was coming home to an empty home and she didn't like it.

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Speaker 2: But now she's able to call home and really enjoy it. And I thought that was sweet. But the other thing that I felt was.

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say uncomfortable, but interesting, was when she was talking to her son I believe Skylar's is his name, I'm sorry, yes, when she was talking to him and he listened. I was a mama's boy. I love relationship that boys with the mothers. He clearly adores his mother.

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Speaker 2: But when he did make the comment about the fact that, you know, well.

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Speaker 1: If I'm gonna spend time with Dick and at least have me in the morning, and you know, Dan's my friend, and I thought there was something interesting about that.

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Speaker 2: That's said a lot without saying a lot. Does that make any sense?

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Speaker 5: Absolutely? And I think that.

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Speaker 3: I think he looks at his mom as the parent, but loves his dad and looks at his dad as more of just a sidekick or a friend.

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Speaker 5: I do believe that.

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Speaker 3: But going back to another thing I wanted to say about when you were talking about that working together. You know, Dolly Parton said, when I know her husband passed, rest in peace, is so sad. But one of the things she was on one of the interviews and they were like, how does your marriage, how do you sustain a marriage when you're in this limelight and this guy wants to be so private, this is not And she said, we have our separate lives that we bring together and that's that.

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Speaker 4: You know, we're part during the day, we our own thing and then we come together at night and we have this. I think that's so important. I think it would be super hard.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I do have a couple businesses with John now, but it's like we don't.

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Speaker 4: I don't.

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Speaker 3: I'm not always there. He's kind of the worker there. I go into the employee meetings and all that. But I think it would be super hard to be with someone all day and all night working at a stressful, stressful position. And then you know, because wasn't what was his role. He was like the CEO or something of it or the whatever, and he's like, you guys know what I.

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Speaker 4: Have to go through.

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Speaker 3: And so I think it would be hard because that will carry into your marriage. And then when he does snap at work, how does she get that out of.

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Speaker 4: Her mind to want to be in the bedroom with him later that night? You know, It's just it's kind of like it's.

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Speaker 5: Crossing two pads.

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Speaker 3: So for me, I was like, well, that was probably a mistake that they ever worked together. Filming a TV show together is different. If you're going to just film for a couple of scenes or whatever, it's totally different. But to actually work at a high stress level, fast paced, you know, fashion industry job.

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Speaker 4: Good luck to any married couple that does that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah show and I adored their relationship and when their show first started, they had an awful a baby. Five six seasons and it wasn't until maybe the last two seasons they had a kid.

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Speaker 2: So I was able to see their dynamic and it was fun.

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Speaker 3: Carlos, That's what it was. You're working together, you're married for so long, working together at her stressful job, married for so long, and then.

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Speaker 4: You pop a kid out. Hell, yeah, your marriage is gonna freaking That's that's a lot. That's a lot.

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Speaker 1: It was also revealed these what is going on with the men in California because they also said when she said that Rogers spends more time with his new girlfriend than.

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Speaker 5: His kids, Okay, that's that's a big heart.

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Speaker 4: That's so sad.

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Speaker 3: And if you think the kids don't notice that, that's probably why they want to be with their mom Moore, you know. And hopefully if Rachel does get a boyfriend, she keeps them away for a while, you know what I mean. Like, I didn't introduce my kids to even one person I was dating unless I knew I was gonna they I became their girlfriend or fiance. So it's like, and I only had two, by the way, but in between now John Drew and John.

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Speaker 4: So anyway, I feel like I feel like she is she is their rock right now. And you know what else, Carlos, what is wrong with them?

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Speaker 3: The women on this show right now, they're all all of them on Beverly Hills.

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Speaker 4: I kept thinking their stories are so sad because they're going through so much of each man. Like, I'm like sitting there feeling so sad.

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Speaker 3: I had to go get some bond bonds out of the freezer and sit on the county.

00:22:36
Speaker 4: Watching a sad drama show. Or am I watching Housewives? No?

00:22:41
Speaker 1: It is The show should be called The Real Divorces of Beverly Hills because all of them and I think someone even noted.

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Speaker 2: That that all of those women are divorced America and Bose those two houses.

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Speaker 3: Erica's having some fun in the bedroom and Bo's has got a really good guy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, she has a fiance, but none of them are married, right.

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Speaker 4: But the rest of the girls, I just feel so sad hearing their stories.

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Speaker 1: No, it makes me sad to even hear that and listen, That's why when.

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Speaker 2: When Kyle Marisio's.

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Speaker 1: Daughter Portia brought up her dad and him being seen with these women. Number one, I think this, and this is my opinion, and it could be unpopular, and trust me, it's fine.

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Speaker 2: I don't give a shit. It always is, it always is, It is fine.

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Speaker 1: I think for Mauricio and Kyle, they both have every right to have fun and and and figure out their taste buds after being married for more than twenty years.

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Speaker 2: I don't think Mauricio is a hoe.

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Speaker 1: You know, but I thought it was funny that his daughter said that that when her friends are like, what's going with your dad?

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Speaker 2: He's a hoe? But I think I think this.

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Speaker 1: Kyle is a great mother when it comes to her four daughters, her fifth one is Justice s Vester, but the.

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Speaker 2: Nanny my friend. But the thing is, when it came to.

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Speaker 1: Mauricio and Kyle's relationship, I think it's okay that they are exploring, well, life is like being single and rich and hot and at a later time in life. And I think I think, I think that's fair and I want that for Dreek, I want that for Rachel Zau. I want to see Rachel Zoe on a day now. Granted she did reveal that somebody tried to hook he up with Mauricio.

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Speaker 3: Oh oh oh, I almost had a heart tech.

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Speaker 5: I'm like, I'm like, thank goodness.

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Speaker 4: Bosa's like hell no, oh, hell no. I'm just yeah, that's too close for comfort. It's like, yeah, I don't trust. Well, here we are look at behind one to talk. Here's the difference. Kyle and Kyle and and Rachel knew each other. They were in the same circle.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I just happened to be on TV show years before.

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Speaker 4: Shannon got on it.

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Speaker 3: I didn't know Shannon until he stumbled into my booth at one of the restaurants one day.

00:25:07
Speaker 4: It's only drunk, but that's the only time I knew Shannon.

00:25:10
Speaker 3: But like, it's totally different because because it's like I wasn't in the same circle.

00:25:15
Speaker 5: So we're just gonna we're gonna.

00:25:16
Speaker 4: Take that one off the table because yeah, I just pour.

00:25:20
Speaker 3: And by the way, no one said if MAURICIOO wanted to hook up with Rachel, he's like in thirty year old woman right now, So.

00:25:25
Speaker 1: Well, I was gonna say, I feel like Mauricio's type from what I've seen, is like twenty to thirty at brunette, you know what I mean, Like, I think that sounds tight.

00:25:34
Speaker 3: Well, because the picture of the first picture that they showed but five hundred daughters was a blonde.

00:25:39
Speaker 2: He was blocked. You're right, she was blocked. I'd be looved.

00:25:42
Speaker 4: He has a type with blonde or brunette.

00:25:44
Speaker 3: But I think he wants thirties right now, which'll probably outgrow.

00:25:47
Speaker 4: I mean, that's probably fun for right now.

00:25:48
Speaker 5: But like, I don't know.

00:25:50
Speaker 4: I think I don't see Marisia with a thirty year old in the end. What do you think about this? Carlobs?

00:25:55
Speaker 3: When they said do you see Kyle and Mauricio getting back together?

00:26:00
Speaker 4: Was that on Watch what Happens? Libror?

00:26:01
Speaker 3: Was that on the Beverly Hills? I it was on one of the shows last night. What do you think about that? I had to get your tape? Do you see them getting back together?

00:26:12
Speaker 2: No?

00:26:14
Speaker 1: No, no, And I'm gonna tell you why.

00:26:18
Speaker 2: Yeah no, And I'm gonna tell you why. I'm gonna tell you why. I'm gonna tell you why. The reason why I don't is because of this reason alone.

00:26:26
Speaker 1: I think one thing I will always give Colin Mauricio. I think they are their relationship was always built on a friendship first, and before they decided to make the difficult decision of being separated, being divorced.

00:26:44
Speaker 2: Is because they thought it through.

00:26:46
Speaker 1: I don't think it was like I don't think they casually just said, let's data the people. I think they both came to the conclusion that we've tried to make this work, and we've done the work and it's still not working, and let's go see other people. And I think that's the reason why you're seeing Kyle explore her sexuality. I think that's why you're seeing Mauricio explore you know, the rainbow.

00:27:14
Speaker 2: Not the con that I'm involved in, but the other.

00:27:17
Speaker 1: So, you know, I think that's good one. I like that. Okay, you know, so I don't see it at all.

00:27:30
Speaker 2: I think I think.

00:27:31
Speaker 1: It's what you just said so eloquently about Roger and Rachel Zoe. I think there they became two different people. And I think that's after thirty three years of being together.

00:27:44
Speaker 2: I get it.

00:27:46
Speaker 3: Well, there's a lot of marriages that last fifty and that are happy, like Ryan Seacrest's parents were together for fifty years, Like all these people are together. I have a lot of friends of their parents have been together videos and completely happy and with their soulmate. I do feel like in this industry where we're we work Carlos in Hollywood, I feel like it's even harder, and especially when you're cast in front of America, to be criticized and all that. I think that's harder. But I do see that you can be together for fifty years and be completely content with that one person. I feel like I don't have any I don't think there's anything wrong with Mauricio and who he wants to date and Kyle and who she wants to date at all.

00:28:23
Speaker 4: I agree with you on that.

00:28:24
Speaker 5: I think that they should be able to explore and have some fun right now.

00:28:28
Speaker 3: And I don't agree with you though I see a world where they could come back together.

00:28:32
Speaker 5: I really do do.

00:28:33
Speaker 2: Tell me, but what are you basing that off of?

00:28:36
Speaker 3: Just I don't know, there's this I just have this feeling from I don't know if you noticed this in Kyle's interview, and I know you love and adore her, and I do too. In her one of her interviews where she was talking to a friend I can't remember. On this last episode, she was getting a little teary eyed and a little choked.

00:28:52
Speaker 5: Up about it, and I could see it.

00:28:54
Speaker 3: I could read her face and I could see that she was a little like, you know, talking about him, like a little bit hurt still, And I see where Mauricio could go out and sew Is oats a little and then come come back and be like but you know.

00:29:07
Speaker 4: You know, because here's the dill.

00:29:09
Speaker 3: You have to be best friends before you can be lovers and really work out.

00:29:12
Speaker 5: In life is a big and a big picture. You have to be best friends. You have to like.

00:29:16
Speaker 3: Align on so many things. So even though you said they started out as friends, so did John and I. I don't see that that's a problem. I think that's actually a benefit. And I totally see a world where they could come back together in a little bit of time.

00:29:29
Speaker 1: M h, Listen, anything is possible, because I do believe they have more of a chance reconciling than Sutton and Garsel.

00:29:40
Speaker 3: Oh, I needed to ask you about this, Okay, I'm gonna sound like an idiot, and I hope the listeners, some of them need to understand what is the beef? I mean, I know that on the last reunion they flashed back and gas up.

00:29:51
Speaker 2: How do you say Garcia.

00:29:52
Speaker 3: Garcia, Well, Garcel left after they'd already fill the whole season. Where do you think that beef came from? Cause Sutton's even lost where do you think the beef came? And they looked like they had such a best friendship. It's like, and Sutton's tried.

00:30:06
Speaker 4: To reach out to Garcel. Where the heck did this all come from?

00:30:10
Speaker 2: So you know what's so funny?

00:30:11
Speaker 1: First of all, shout out to Dorit who who watches Reality with the King podcast, because she asked the question that I have been saying for the past three years, alexis about whether or not Garceil and sons friendship was an alliance or true friendship. So I'm going to tell you that first, and then I'm gonna go backwards a bit. When Garcella got on the show, she got all through her friend Lisa Rena. Yes, they were friends since they were teenage young women as actresses in Hollywood, like soap opera actresses, right, So she came in through Lisa Rena, because you know with these shows, you come in through somebody. You know, Lisa Rena and Garsel after her first season just did not see eye to eye. It was a friend to the show, Oh not a housewipe, and she first got off. All of a sudden, Garcella and Sudden became buddies because, and again I know this to be true, when you looking at the full scope of the cast and you look at your relationships, sometimes by default you become friends because this person doesn't like you like they used to, and you see this person have an alliance, and by default gar Ston were presented as like these best friends.

00:31:33
Speaker 2: Yes, they were vacation together, they had each other's back on the show. But what happened last season.

00:31:42
Speaker 1: Garcel made it very clear that she and Sutton would have off camera conversations about these girls, in particularly Kyle Kyle's sexuality, Duret's robbery, and anytime gar Garcell brought it up, Sutton would sit there quietly and Garcel would say, but something you and I talked about this, Why aren't you having in my back?

00:32:09
Speaker 2: And somedon say anything. Then you fast forward to the reunion.

00:32:14
Speaker 1: Because at this point the cast is seeing that Garcel is saying things are.

00:32:18
Speaker 2: Professionals, so is Sutton about all of us.

00:32:23
Speaker 1: Garcel was in a hot seat for the very first time throughout her tenure on.

00:32:28
Speaker 2: The show, Sutton looked sedated.

00:32:32
Speaker 1: She just sat there and didn't say anything, like nothing, and did not defend Garcel at all. So when Garcel left the reunion after rejecting a picture, did not follow her. I believe that if you saw Tamra leave the stage, your instinct would say, my friend left this stage.

00:32:53
Speaker 2: Let me see what was wrong with her?

00:32:55
Speaker 1: You want to stand there for thirty more minutes taking pictures with the other cast members, And that's what Sutton did. So after the reunion, that was the last time Garcel communicated with Sutton, and that's why they're not friends anymore.

00:33:10
Speaker 2: And that's why j read act.

00:33:11
Speaker 1: Do you think that it's more of an alliance or friendship? Thank you to me for being a fan of reality with the King, and that's what happened.

00:33:20
Speaker 3: Wow, boom, this is why you have a top rated podcast, Carlo.

00:33:31
Speaker 1: So they have alexiis gaggy, Go ahead, talk, go take it away, sister.

00:33:38
Speaker 3: So, I mean, I don't even know where to be at because you just gave me so much information that all it now I had like three thoughts going through it. Now I can remember is the end of it, and that would be yes, if one of my good friends on the cast is going to storm off, and even maybe a medium friend. Now it's not a friend, I'm not going to storm off, but if it's a medium friend or a good good friend, I'm gonna probably go after him just to have of a kindness of my heart beat, Like, Okay, what is that about? Because first of all, even though it is a TV show, you still everybody has feelings. Okay, but okay, so when you're going back to I'm trying to get my thought back right now, so I'm walking through it when you're saying that they, you know, did all these trips together, and and oh.

00:34:19
Speaker 5: This is what I was gonna say.

00:34:21
Speaker 3: When you do have conversations off camera with your friends that are on the show, you do say please keep this between you and I. And if it's a true friend, they will honor that. If it's not a true friend and wants to expose it, they're going to expose it.

00:34:37
Speaker 4: But you do.

00:34:37
Speaker 3: You can't go through a reality show and have every single thing aired. There's gonna be a fight. John and I get in that I don't need to have aired on the show. I mean we don't really fight, but bicker about or whatever that I might blow some steam off the camera and be like, oh god, I just really wanted him to just like I just wanted to bite his foot off with the moment, you know what, I don't know. And so you vent to your friend, and you even vent about other cast members, so well, it is kind of I do understand Sutton's point to when garcels starts talking about things that they had that they were going to be private about. I do understand Garcel or Sutton's point about sitting there like, okay, well we're not supposed to be talking about that, like I asked you not to.

00:35:15
Speaker 4: Bring that was between me and you.

00:35:17
Speaker 3: You do talk about your other cast mates to each other behind the scenes, and if any woman says they don't, they are full of malarkey.

00:35:22
Speaker 5: Okay, they do.

00:35:27
Speaker 3: And you know, so if they're talking about Jerrete's robbery and this and that, But if you're saying it in confidence with your friend, you have to be able to have a confidence with a friend. You can't just feel like everything is free and accessible and dirty laundry.

00:35:41
Speaker 4: You can't.

00:35:42
Speaker 3: So I get I kind of get Sutton's point on this, But then for Garcel to walk off and Sutton to not go.

00:35:48
Speaker 5: Maybe that was Garcel's ut test.

00:35:50
Speaker 3: Maybe you're right about this, that was Garcel's test of Sutton to see if Sutton would chase after her, and that's how they could have been to the friendship. But when Sutton didn't go, so I was like, it was just a TV friendship.

00:36:03
Speaker 4: You call it, you call it acquaintance, and.

00:36:05
Speaker 5: I call it a TV friendship.

00:36:06
Speaker 3: I call there's TV work and you're my work friend or like a TV friend, or you're my real friend. And that's what you have to kind of when you're on a reality show. You do have to find that discernment on which is which, and it's it's difficult and there's times it's going to be tested. But I tell you there's you have red flags where you can know it's just a TV friend. You have those flags that are waving and telling you this is just my TV friend. Okay, back up now, I'm not going to tell that person everything. I'm gonna be able to it.

00:36:34
Speaker 1: So and I believe that's what Garcelles saw, and I agree with you. I think when Sutton.

00:36:38
Speaker 2: Did not go after her, I think that's when Garsell said.

00:36:42
Speaker 1: Understood, you Drew, you made it very clear that you want to be friends with these women, and that's what happened, and that's the reason why you see Sutton. You know, this is my opinion because I watched every single frame of this show. Listen, Sudden got what she wanted a Lexus, and she got Kyle and Erica on her side as her friend.

00:37:04
Speaker 2: She has been kissing Kyle's ass ever since.

00:37:06
Speaker 1: She got on the show, because Sutton is a social climber, and she got everything.

00:37:11
Speaker 2: That she wanted.

00:37:12
Speaker 1: And when her mother, Reba, who loves Kyle and called Kyle pretty last season and ignored Garcel, Sutton says, yeah, so alexis Son said.

00:37:23
Speaker 2: Oh, me and my mother get along better now.

00:37:26
Speaker 1: Well, I bet you guys do get along now, Sutton, because you're no longer friends with Garcel and I will leave it at that.

00:37:34
Speaker 3: So does does the mother not like Garcel. I didn't know the Moba and Garcela had a beef.

00:37:41
Speaker 2: I still had no beat with the mother with a one sided beef.

00:37:44
Speaker 5: Sither does have against Garcel.

00:37:49
Speaker 2: I don't want to make allegations, but.

00:37:54
Speaker 1: There were a lot of microaggressions that Sutton's mother, who is very Southern, was was acting towards Garcel. It was and it appeared that his mother isn't used to being friends with.

00:38:13
Speaker 2: Someone who looks like Garcel.

00:38:14
Speaker 1: If you could read between the lines and one thing, one thing that happened, one thing that happened. Garcila came in and brought a gift because they all stay at a mother's house, her mother lives in. I think Savannah Georgia and Garcila bought her mom a gift and garcil Son's mother simp the gift back.

00:38:39
Speaker 5: WHOA WHOA?

00:38:42
Speaker 2: Okay?

00:38:43
Speaker 4: But then why is Riba being okay with Bows and the group?

00:38:48
Speaker 1: I think Riba saw what people were saying about her last year, and it's acting on camera to be a little bit kinder.

00:38:56
Speaker 5: Well, first of all, it's all unacceptable. You know how I felt about that.

00:38:59
Speaker 2: No, I'm I know that's listen. I'm not calling nobody a name. I'm sorry. Not Savannah Georgia, Augusta Georgia.

00:39:06
Speaker 1: Thank you, Lizzie, I have a Lizzy note, thank you my assistant Lizzie. So listen, I've had friends, and I said this last season, I had friends.

00:39:16
Speaker 2: Who are white. Text me after watching that.

00:39:21
Speaker 1: See those scenes with the guard Cell and son's mother, and they were uncomfortable and they texted me like, I I I feel this way, how do you feel?

00:39:32
Speaker 2: And we had an off, off the record conversation and listen, I'm not I'm not here to give somebody a label, but what I am.

00:39:38
Speaker 1: What I am gonna say is even my white friends were like, this is uncomfortable for us to watch.

00:39:44
Speaker 2: I can only imagine how you're feeling.

00:39:46
Speaker 1: I need yeah, and yeah, and and and and and to add insult to injury. It was such a big moment last season Alexis. The scene of her mother was never brought up at the reunion.

00:40:06
Speaker 5: M isn't that interesting?

00:40:10
Speaker 1: And I also think that maybe maybe maybe maybe that maybe allegedly something garself felt too, but it was never addressed at the reunion.

00:40:20
Speaker 5: And she feels slighted.

00:40:23
Speaker 3: She feels slighted like why didn't I get Why didn't this get addressed? This is a very huge issue and I felt a certain way during that time with Reva, and no one even.

00:40:31
Speaker 4: Cares enough to bring it up for me.

00:40:33
Speaker 5: Yes, wow, And it should have been brought up.

00:40:37
Speaker 3: That is a very huge that's huge, and it should have been brought up in discussed and gar have had a moment to say. My feelings were very hurt and I felt because I haven't seen the scene.

00:40:46
Speaker 4: I'm just if I had, if I.

00:40:49
Speaker 3: It'd be like, why, why are my feelings not gonna be validated enough now where I can at least speak about it and say my two cents and then I feel better?

00:40:58
Speaker 4: Wow?

00:40:59
Speaker 2: Yeah, So for me, look for me, I'll say this and I don't. I'll say it.

00:41:03
Speaker 1: I don't care to see Rebe on my screen. I don't care to see it. That's my opinion. I tell you who I do want on my screen, and that is his former assistant Bobby.

00:41:14
Speaker 5: Oh, that was so sad to watch.

00:41:18
Speaker 4: All these men are just leaving these women anymore?

00:41:25
Speaker 2: Why these a lessons? You're hilarious. I feel like all of these.

00:41:33
Speaker 4: All gonna turn bisexual or gay? I mean, because the men are just dropping like flies around.

00:41:38
Speaker 2: Then okay, it doesn't matter you gay straight? These are libby.

00:41:47
Speaker 1: And and listen and to your point, because I'm going to give Sutton this, so Ray drops listen. I'll give Sutten this because the Lexus has brought something to.

00:41:56
Speaker 2: Me that I will say. Let me apply this to Sutton. When I believe it was Kyle. Your pobna mistaken said, well, there's no surprise that Abby did leave. We see how she how.

00:42:09
Speaker 1: Son talks to him, and they flashed back to moments of saying certain things to Abby. And I'm like, so to your point, listen, they've been they've been together for.

00:42:20
Speaker 2: Years, so to show us four moments.

00:42:22
Speaker 1: Isn't fair to say that's the sole reason. So I'll give that to Sutton.

00:42:29
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I only okay, I'll do too.

00:42:31
Speaker 3: I only know from experience that they can take four scenes and make you look like a complete fool when there's so much more to the picture. So I don't believe that Sutton really treated him that horrible their entire relationship.

00:42:45
Speaker 5: I just don't.

00:42:46
Speaker 3: I think he would have left. I don't think anyone would tolerate that. I think he would have left way sooner if that were the case. But I yeah, it just is sad though, because you know, and he probably did have a little chap in his push, you know, because.

00:43:00
Speaker 4: They were like, well, he probably he's not happy about her. Well, he probably is unhappy he lost his job, you know.

00:43:06
Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, and I hope.

00:43:09
Speaker 5: She opens up to more about that. Story, by the way, I need more.

00:43:13
Speaker 2: It was very kg her response to it, right, alex Is like, yes, something.

00:43:18
Speaker 3: Happened, something deeper happened. It was way too vague and she was very pers lipped.

00:43:24
Speaker 2: So yeah, yes, so we both agree with that.

00:43:29
Speaker 1: And what we've learned is that some former assistant, Josh was that Brava com with her.

00:43:35
Speaker 2: So look, we look av a V.

00:43:39
Speaker 1: If you're listening, Alexis and I are inviting you on Reality with the King so that you can speak to the both of us and share your side of the story.

00:43:48
Speaker 4: Yes, AUV, and take you to lunch, Henny, I don't know how you'll have Carlos listen.

00:43:59
Speaker 2: It'll be worth the trip, Honey. Where worth it you want to go to be worth it? And I am here for it.

00:44:08
Speaker 1: So one thing that occurred that Alexis I was like, this is some rich folks shit, and these are rich people's problems when informed us that her ex husband got their wedding annulled because the Catholic church. Excuse me, I don't know about was the big Alexis, I didn't even know it existed.

00:44:34
Speaker 4: I didn't know in a Catholic church.

00:44:36
Speaker 3: You've been how long were they married, like you could have a ten or twenty year marriage and then all of a sudden, just poof, we're gonna annull it because we don't want her to have his last name and be I mean, an annulment in the United States is like under a year you have to be married, and under like three hundred and sixty five days or something like that. And in certain states it's like, I don't even know how he got it annulled in a church when they've had a kid together and lived together for years.

00:44:57
Speaker 5: And I, okay, that's you. I should have researched that.

00:45:01
Speaker 3: I didn't have time because I was trying to get my new studios set up and everything. Like I didn't research on the Catholic church. But from here on out, I will be bringing more research.

00:45:11
Speaker 4: Rain Drops, don't worry.

00:45:13
Speaker 1: They love Detective Jansen, so you have to do that. But for me, listen, they were married. I think she said seventeen years. You don't know this, and in their settlement she gets three hundred and fifty thousand dollars a month.

00:45:28
Speaker 5: I did hear this. Actually, I did hear this back when they divorced.

00:45:31
Speaker 3: I heard the amount because I'm like I'm married the wrong first.

00:45:34
Speaker 4: Husband, or holy hell, i'd be in Beverly Hills with these women. A girl, simple life, Okay, a little simpleton over here.

00:45:52
Speaker 2: I'm totally cool with it.

00:45:55
Speaker 1: The thing is this, you're happy, but look that, I think that'll make me happy.

00:45:59
Speaker 2: Tom getting that much.

00:46:01
Speaker 3: I mean, money doesn't solve your problems, but boy, it doesn't make him worth either.

00:46:05
Speaker 1: Okay, that's all I have to say.

00:46:11
Speaker 2: But listen, one thing that I did find fuddy and I'm gonna give Riba this. When Riba her.

00:46:17
Speaker 1: Mother said that she does it want to kiss Pique because she doesn't find him attractive.

00:46:22
Speaker 2: As son said, that's one thing me and my mother have in comment.

00:46:25
Speaker 4: This is so funny.

00:46:28
Speaker 2: I was like, I.

00:46:29
Speaker 3: Laughed out loud, like well by myself watching the show, like I was laughing out.

00:46:33
Speaker 4: Loud to eating my popcorn by myself.

00:46:35
Speaker 5: It was funny.

00:46:37
Speaker 4: I got that until what you just told me. I really got to kick out a reeba to be honest, but I.

00:46:41
Speaker 3: Don't like I don't like any kind of I don't know if I call it racism to go that far, but I don't like any kind of making any group of minority or any person feeling bad or uncomfortable. Maybe she just had a bad feel about Garcel. Let's give her the benefit of that doubt. Maybe she just didn't like something about Garcel's persona. Maybe it had nothing to do with the color of her skin. Let's just give her the benefit of the doubt. But I because I did enjoy Riba on this episode.

00:47:08
Speaker 4: I thought she was a hoot.

00:47:10
Speaker 1: Yeah, And and the thing is, it would have been nice to address this so that she or her daughter could have been able to her or whatever. But because we didn't see it, we were left with our what what listen? I stand the hole I felt watching it. But again, I'm open to having them address it if they want to.

00:47:30
Speaker 4: I am.

00:47:32
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go back and watch that episode, by the way, you're gonna tell me. And I want to go watch it. I want to see from Okay, God.

00:47:38
Speaker 2: I should as you should, as you should.

00:47:40
Speaker 1: So the thing is, so the girls are having they're all together, they get to meet Rachel Zoe.

00:47:49
Speaker 2: I'll say this much. I enjoyed this premiere.

00:47:53
Speaker 1: Because I felt that it was nice to see these ladies come together.

00:47:58
Speaker 2: I even enjoy to read.

00:48:00
Speaker 1: I even enjoy bows meeting with Erica Jane and them having.

00:48:05
Speaker 2: The one on one.

00:48:07
Speaker 1: How did you feel about the comment that Erica made when she said, well, Bo said, well, the real slim Suddon stand up and for the reference for you now cool rain drops, It's that she was referencing Emminem the Rapper the real slim Shady and it was like slim, you mean.

00:48:28
Speaker 2: Box, let me mean box.

00:48:32
Speaker 4: I didn't get it.

00:48:33
Speaker 1: I believe what she was trying to intimate was that Sudden is a slim and she's more shaped like a box.

00:48:39
Speaker 4: Oh oh, snapped, I didn't even go that or there.

00:48:46
Speaker 3: Okay, well rude, but also funny.

00:48:55
Speaker 5: I wow.

00:49:00
Speaker 4: Erica and Bo's friendship, I really do. I like they are.

00:49:04
Speaker 3: They're just funny together and I get who I get a kick out of both of them.

00:49:08
Speaker 4: Like you know.

00:49:09
Speaker 3: And when Erica is like I don't really want to I want to have closure with Tom, but what really what is there to say or whatever she said she was, I was just like, oh my gosh, like I just there's just a lot. There's so much good on this show. It's gonna be such a fun season to read.

00:49:26
Speaker 2: No, it is, it is, and I listen.

00:49:28
Speaker 1: I really did enjoy this premiere and I'm looking forward to recapping this with you, Alexa Janssen every week on the podcast.

00:49:39
Speaker 2: So thank you so much, rain Drops.

00:49:41
Speaker 1: Let Alexis and I know what you felt about this episode hashtag Reality with the King. Let us know on Twitter or x and let us know on the Spotify comments as wow.

00:49:54
Speaker 3: And guys, don't get used to me looking my Beverly Hills look, because I'll be in a T shirt next week.

00:49:59
Speaker 4: Okay, this was just one one and done with for y'all.

00:50:01
Speaker 5: I'm kidding.

00:50:02
Speaker 1: Well, we appreciate it. We appreciate it, all right, Alexis, I'll see you next week. Thank you, lovey bie, guys, Bye bye. Reality with the King is executive produced by me Carlos King, produced by Lizzie Nimitz, and a partnership.

00:50:22
Speaker 2: With the Lack of Effect Network.

00:50:24
Speaker 1: You can also find us on my YouTube channel at the Carlos King Underscore