#193 - Ingrid Andress on her love for airplane neck pillows, Writing with Alicia Keys and Singing on a Reality Show in a Vocal Group

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Speaker 1: All right, we're about to hop in with Ingrid Andrews and do a Bobby Cast new artist. I think you're gonna like. I think she's cool. I actually talked in this interview about how I found her for the first time, and I believe and this didn't come up in the show and the interview we were about to do with her, but I think I was her first interview. Yeah, because yeah, I think when she signed to the deal her a record deal, I think we're the first interview she ever did. Because I was I called. I was like, hey, I wanted to come up, and they were like, sure, she'll come right up. She'll be there in ten minutes or what. It wasn't that quick, but she came up like the next day and then she crushed it and I was like, hey, that's really good. Has my first one. I was like, oh wow, look at that. So, yeah, she's really cool. I think you're gonna like her. Um, it was it was fun for me to do. UM. Let me stay real quick. You should check out Amy's four Things with Amy Brown's fantastic lifestyle, female health, a little bit of faith, a little bit of of all that. So I checked that out It's a really fantastic podcast. If you love Amy, just give it a listen. Caroline Hobby has a fantastic podcast called Get Real with Caroline Hobby, where one of her recent shows was her with Chris Daughtry's wife and they talked about how not only they have an open relationship for a while movie they still do, but she had a girlfriend at one point, not just doing it, but I had like a girlfriend while they were married. Pretty open, honest conversation if that's your thing. She talks to a lot of the wives of country music stars. There's also one on the Get Real podcast where they do a live show with Luke Bryant's wife, Caroline Brian and Philip Sweet's wife. Um so Rebecca Sweet, which it's it's it's good. It's so good, So check that podcast out. The guys have a sports show called The Sore Losers. I mean, it's the whole thing. Is Rocking Velvet's Edge with Kelly Henderson, a lifestyle podcast, Fashion What It's like to be like mid twenties and mid thirties as a female. I'm about to have to run because she's about to be here. We are going over closed for a photo shoot, that's Monday. Some TV stuff I'm doing in Austin. And then we're starting to look at American Idol. Here we go back again. I looked at my my, my bill, because what happens is Idol gives me. They don't pay for everything per item. They go, here is your budget. So but when you agree to it terms, like I agreed to a two year deal with American Idol. It was actually a one year deal, but they had the option to renew for a second year, so we we did. The first year. It was great, but they give you as part of your deal, let's say five dollars and they go, here's five dollars, and this is to cover your travel, your clothes, your hair, and makeup your everything. Period. Like this is just what's gonna be. Here's your money, but here's also your side. And being honest, it was a lot. And I was like, holy crap, you can give me this much money I'm gonna keep I'm just gonna buy T shirts and then keep it all. Um. Not the case, because you can't you can't learn anything twice um. And I overspent my budget. I couldn't believe it. But the most expensive thing on of everything close travel was hair and makeup and styling more so than clothes. Then then and I buy my own clothes. I wish I was cool enough for people to give me clothes. Maybe this, maybe I might the threshold this year where people are like, oh, where are my stuff? Yeah, maybe we're hoping I can get something on that. Um, that's the goal. But yet Kelly's here, but she's gonna do when i'd go back to idol. The reason this comes up as I'm doing, She's coming with me the whole time for the first up until December. So, um, it's expensive holeak rabbits, expensive colored tug. I was talking to some one the other day about it, because it's it's so Kelly is the best at it, which is why. And she's not cheap either, but she's the best at it. And I was like, well, you get what you pay for, and idols giving me this money. I'm trying to budget it out. And I was talking to somebody who does finances for you know, some artists, and they were like, you know, some stylists can be like three or four thousand dollars a day, and I'm like, that's not even the clothes, and even that's crazy to go. Yeah, it could be more than that, and it's my mind, isn't And also I'm a dude, so it's a little cheaper. But isn't that nuts? That's crazy, that's just not without clothes just and then you have to hire their assistant to like these stars that do like the c m A Awards, mostly females because they have the bad luck of having to pay more for their stuff. Crazy because you expensive that stuffest But anyway, so I'm about to do so I'm gonna hit that. And then I got a spray tan tonight because I guess about every nine days I get a spray tan if I were to calendar it, because it's just that it's gonna about to be every five days. When to get back on TV. Um, Okay, I gotta go. Spoken too much, too candidly about my routine. This is Ingrid Andrews. Anything I've forgotten might be thank you. Check out my comedy show if you'd like Raging Idiots dot Com. It's Eddie and myself. We got a bunch of comedy and music. I play a work tape in the next interview that we wrote a song that we wrote and for the first I've ever done that. All right, the end. I hope you enjoy this podcast I did. Here is the next episode of the Bobby Cast, and please share on your ins of story if you like it, like if people and and I know people say this, but it really does mean a lot to me and people that like Mike do they do podcast If you'll subscribe, grade, but if you'll like rate it, that actually helps us move up where people actually see. So if you'll write a good rating and do like five stars and be like it was the best part I've heard every podcast, but this is the one I like the most. Say stuff like that that helps us, and then share it with your friends on Instagram. It's a story and tag me and I'll try to like it. And yeah, I follow the show on Instagram to the Bobby Cast at the Bobby Cast. All right away we go here is Ingrid ind alright episode too well? Sorry started again, Mike e this end? Who cares? Just started up? Right? Bast right? Welcome to episode one of the Bobby Cast with Ingrid Andrews. I'm gonna play a couple of your songs real quick. You're you're a new artist, and so I'm gonna let people kind of hear a few of these, U lady like here you go, lady, Like, wow, I could bring it to it. Which, um, there have only been I think two songs that that have influenced my decision making on artists that I've taken from Instagram story and this is one of them. That's how it was exposed to me, Like, that's why I brought you into my show. Sor early, I didn't know who you were, Yeah, no, right, who does? And so but I kept seeing a lot of the girls that I follow our work on my show putting this song on their Instagram stories, and I was like, what is this about? And I also related to the song very much so, and so that's where that's how I found you, was through people's which that one and probably the early Lizzo stuff was how it's always the girl power stuff. I know, because there's so little of it, I feel like it just stands out when it's there, like Beyonce. Well then, but I follow like everybody I follow on Instagram, my friends or girls. Some of my dude friends don't even have Instagram. But yeah, this is a song that and that's why you came on my show. The first time, I was like, hey, this girl, this girl on you go, what else does she have? But yeah, that was that. So yeah, this is a ladylike here is This is the current single, right, the next one hearts like mine, more hearts. Oh yeah, I read it wrong. I don't know. I'm I'm seeing I'm dyslexic today. I got a minor case of dyslexia. No, I called you like angrid ingressed more hearts than mine. This is taking fish and pretended you played this just like a verse and a chorus on our show. Yeah, yeah, like this, and then you have a new song called both as of right now, can you can push? Okay? Now we're setting now people have kind of heard what's up? Perfect, because if what will happen is a new artist will come on and people will go, let me stop it and go listen and see, let me hear the voice before I get going. We don't you do that. We just did that, perfect. We're all caught up now. Now everybody knows how terrible I am, and they're gonna be like, are you one of those people? What are you one of those you downplay things? Yeah? Why just because you don't? I mean I'm just here to have a good time. So I feel like, if if I get too serious about it, then it's going to ruin the magic of all of it. But I do. I'm like, like I'll tell people like, don't come into my show, not that funny. I'm like holding back their expectation because I don't want them to think, oh, a dual. But I wonder why you white, because you just did it. You just did it. I watched you go and your reasoning is because you're just here to have a good time. Yes, I feel like if I get too hype about myself then it's going to like ruin the whole magic of just writing things because I feel them and I like singing. But do you know that you're really good? Uh? Sometimes if I write a song that I'm like, that is dope. Maybe more as like a songwriter, maybe because you know, if a song is like really spot on or not, so is that your first being a songwriter? More so being an artist? Like if you get to pick one, do you love that more? Would you rather sing someone else's songs? Here's here's your, here's your here's your or you can the rest of your life. You can be a famous artist, but you never can perform one of your songs. As a matter of fact, you can't even write again. You're just singing, but you're crushing it right, You're what up? I'm ing? They're going crazy and Topeka for you, like it's just rocking? Or would you write massive hits for other people but you don't have a voice. I think that would kill me for sure. I don't know. I feel like I think performing because I've always loved performing and I would gladly sing Whitney Houston songs for the rest of my life if I could. Do you have because some artists we have an issue with covering songs? Do you have one of those? Were like, I don't want to cover anything. Um, that's mostly just from me being lazy and not wanting to learn more songs. But but not because it is a black spot on your artistic integrity. No, No, there are a million great songs that I have not written, so I feel like, why not perform those as well. I'm gonna run into a few questions before because I learned some things about you today. I had no idea, not that I've studied you, okay, but but there was some stuff today where I was like, I had no idea this is this has happened in your life. So we'll get to that first up. What's the most expensive thing you've ever held in your hands? Um, thinking about that, the most expensive thing that you've ever held in your I just don't like expensive things. It doesn't matter. It could be someone else's something. It doesn't have to be something you owned, just period. What's the most expensive thing you've held it? It It could be an iPhone. You have an iPhone that's a thousand bucks. But surely there's been something more expensive than that on your in your hands at some point, probably like a piece of art or something. Okay, do you know which one specifically? Nope, because it was very like abstract Okay, but it wasn't like the famous artist you can remember, okay. Um. Instead of you know, people will say your last meal. We don't do the last meal. But if you're offered a last song before you die, what's your last song? Did I get to listen to? Yeah, unless you're gonna play it before you die, welcome to show everyone I wore the last note. Oh my god. Wait, that would be terrible but kind of awesome at the same time. Um, you get a last song to listen to. I really love I know. Um Ali wrote I Will Always Love You, But I feel like Whitney Houston really brought it something and that song was like a big deal to me because she just sounds amazing on it and it made me want to sing it forever you okay, yep, this would be the last one. Interesting. Interesting, I was thinking about Dolly because we've had Dolly, We've talked to her before, and she was telling the story about this song. So she wrote this originally by herself for Porter Wagoner, who was her business partner. It's not a it's an obviously, it's not a love song, like in the sense of she wasn't in love with him, but she is like, hey, I gotta go peace out. I'm gonna go do my own thing. And porter Wagoner was like, wait what. So she wrote this song. She played it for him and she's like, hey, I'll always love you, like we're always cool like that. But I got to go, and so she left and it became a huge hit. And by the way, she wrote by herself one of two songs she wrote that Deny. She wrote Joeline that day too right, and so she goes away, and then she hears a little birdie. I think Whenney Houston's recording one of your songs, doesn't know anything about it, really, just heard it. Maybe I will Always love You. She's driving in her car and she tells me and she's like, well that sounds familiar. Turns it on. It's Whitney Houston singing I Will Always Love You. The first time she ever heard it was her randomly driving in her car. Oh my gosh, that's actually kind of awesome, and she was like and she crushed it obviously. Yeah, okay, good. How about this? What's one thing that you thought was easy but it turned out to be extremely difficult when you attempted it? Like everything, um wha. I think basketball, maybe because I had played every other sport and everybody was like, oh, she's so athletic, and then I tried playing basketball and I was like, this is not fun for me at all. I don't know why I don't like it. You were an athlete in high school and college both. I went to Music College and there was no sports team in Music College, but I did think I was going to college for volleyball at one point. Oh yeah, what position did you play, I was left striker or hitter. Yeah, I'm familiar. I know the positions. And then there's the one who does who wears the off color jersey. That Bebo Bear. I guess Lobart is the naked club in Nashville. Where the dude that's that's the naked dude club. Yeah, so you're a good volleyball player. Huh Yeah? Are you tall? Five eight? Tallish? Yeah? It was more for my vertical. I was a middle hitter for a while, and then I got to high school and I was like, Wow, these girls are like way taller than me and you're pretty good. Yeah. You homeschooled through what grade through eighth grade? So what's homeschool like for you? Because everyone is different. Um. I hated it at the time, just because I was such a social person, but it really gave Like, looking back, it really gave me a lot of alone time to be creative and think of things in a different way instead of growing up the same way everybody else does your age. So I feel like it it helped um creatively as far as like knowing how to process your thoughts and like being comfortable with who you are. My co hosts and my friends kids, Amy, they're they're homeschool right now. Um, And everyone I've talked to them has been on a home school track, has been it for different reasons and they all have different experiences. And so did you were you able to do music? Like did you study music while you were homeschooling? I did. My mom started teaching me piano at six so um, and then I sang in church choirs and stuff, so we had a lot of time to practice, which she made sure I did. And did you ever get to the point where like, I'm so over piano, like I just don't want to do it. Yeah, well that's why they had to give me an incentive. They're like, well, if you get to this point in piano, if you reach this level, then you can pick whatever instrument you want. And I really wanted to play drums, so I got through piano lessons so I could play drums. And you played drums in like a rock band. Yeah, I guess you could call it that what what what would you call it? It was more of a scream oh thing, but we never really perfected the screaming part. Did you just played drums or did you also scream? Um? I just played drums. I tried screaming. I really wanted to learn how to pig squeal. Do you know what that is like in metal music? Like? What would it sound like if you were doing it? Very like I really I pig squill would be do it in metal? In metal? Yeah? Do that? Because I'm from Arkansas and we well, there are a lot of hogs that were raised near and even had a bunch of pigs, a bunch of hogs, so I would hear pig squills, but I'm not familiar with what a pig squill would be in metal music. Um, do you guys have a band name? We didn't even really make it that far. We did it for our talent show, and we kept changing our band name, so it was like a band with no name. You performed scream Oh at a talent show? Oh did you get it? That's a human when you're trying to emulate a pig. It's a metal A good song. What is that? I can't get it out of my head that it's one of those This is like, Wow, what's it called? Butter? The bread with butter? Wait? Are you kidding me? Oh my god, it's the name of the band. I don't know. Oh my god, we have to find out. And people like this and why scream? Who did you meet as a kid that was so into scream? Oh? Um? Well, my parents were very conservative and they didn't really let me listen to anything other than Christian music. So my friends would burn me c ds of stuff that they were listening to, like contraband, yeah you're sneaking it in. Yeah, So I would just get I would be listening. That's how I found out about country actually is because my friend burned me a CD of like all these random country songs. But so I would basically just be at the mercy of what my neighbors were listening to. So so your parents were saying, Okay, this is the music you can hear. Did you know they were just giving your Christian music when you were young or was that yes? Yes? So? And what were you listening to anything that was kind of an influence like Michael W. Smith and Jars of Clay News, blow Boys, who else? D C Talk? Oh? I was some heavy DC talk guy. Really, just between you and me, I get something to say, remember that song? Do you for that at all? Oh? Come on, hey, Mike, we look up Just between you and me. Yeah, so that's that was kind of my element for a while too, all of that. Oh wait, what was there other big songs? Hey, Mike, let's get to the hook first of this song. You can you can let the playoff and we'll see it through this song. Yeah. I was a big DC talk guy. Here we go, just between you and me. I guess something. He's a good churt. You were ahead of their time. The sudden goes down, Come on, don't best me? Oh my god. Like Darza, Clay had the jam and it crossed over to pop too. It was called Flood. Do you remember Flood from Arsa Clay? Is that the Orangeish album? I just remember them from there? Rain, rain on my face, It hasn't stopped raining for days. My world is a flood, rain, rain on my face. Oh my god. Hasn't this crossed over to pop? Yeah, we'll wait till you hear the hook? Super catchy. My world is a flood. It's about it coming suddenly. I've become one with the hook that the body days. Oh my gosh, this is that song, so high the jam, It is good, that good good. I always admired the instilled now the people, the right praise and worship songs. They can do it really effectively because you don't have a lot of highway like side decide to go. You kind of have to find a way to rewrite the same message. Yeah, and our friends are right country and praise songs, and they're like, you know, it's so hard to write a good praise song because what words have not been said have not been So who are you listening to? Um? Christian Stephen Curtis Chapman Old School? Yeah, I loved I loved all of his stuff. Um and Nicole c mullin. Don't you related to her? She was one hit? Oh yeah, I wonder I think. Yeah, I've never really heard much about her. My mom was a big Amy Grant fan. Love Amy Grant, No Amy now yeah, yes, let me do a little name drop there if we don't mind, Yes, of course, yeah, I'll leave that there. Yeah. So that was you that you you listen to Christian Christian pop. It sounds like you weren't listening to the old Gregorian chant. I My dad loved Handles Messiah. That was the only CD that was in his car. So I know all of those really interesting in your Your dad was if I'm just recalling. This was strength and conditioning coach for ball CLOBs and baseball teams. Yeah, the Detroit Tigers, the Colorado Rockies, in the New York Mets. And did you move around with that? Yes, well not to New York because by the time he did that, I was in Boston. So you lived in the Red Sox as the person one the Boston you said, so, the Tigers and then the Rockies. So where did you live most of your childhood? Colorado? And is that home to you, like if you go home, that's yes, Yeah, definitely near what Town, Highlands Ranch, Colorado? Talk to me about. I know, I know Denver. It's it's like a suburb of Denver, like Denver. We just did a show there. I'm I like, never like Colorado, Springs, Fort Collins, I know all those areas. Yep. Yeah, it's it's literally right outside Denver. All those places are like an hour away. So are you the are you the big you are your what's that brand? All all you guys were all you Denver folks. Mountain That's it's the it's the prep. Yeah, but but that's the culture, right yeah. Yeah, So if you're here and you're a patagon. You You're like, Okay, where are you going right, Like you're trying to impress exactly you guys, probably that was your house was made a padagon. You're probably you drove up on the road you got. Yeah, so that was kind of your lifestyle. Was a lot of mountain climbing, a lot of outdoors. Yeah, my family we would go camping for fun, which at the time I was like, this is not fun, but it's um lots of hiking, um, snowboarding, skiing, just the whole the whole thing. Is that still fun to you now? Like when it's like, hey, I want to take a second and take a beat and go away, do you go back and do those kind of activities? Yes? I do. It's fun now because I feel like it's you're actually appreciating the nature. And when you're younger, you're it's kind of like why can't I, you know, play video games with my friends? But now it's like, oh, thank god, I'm out here. I just want to go listen to d C talk with my friends. Come on. I was speaking of your music on Instagram. The Cracker Borough stuff is really cool. Yeah, that was really an awesome opportunity This is a Wide Open Spaces with Karen and Kimberly from Little Big Town and Ingrid, a young girl's dreams no longer hollow. It takes the shape of the place out with what it holds. She hasn't yet, I guess she spaces. Who was at the idea for that arrangement? I think that's what they do on the actual Yeah, oh I didn't know that. I just hear one big wide open spaces that in your wide Open spaces spaces Did you know that there? Yeah? Otherwise we wouldn't have come up with that because we didn't know how to make the clean break because in the recording, Um yeah, they like hanging over, So we were like, oh do we hold it out? Like do you think cool? That's cool? Yeah? I thought that you guys came up with never mind, I'd take my compliment of oh my god, it's still it's still great, that's great, it's fun. You how did you get into this? How did the cracker borrowl call you and go, you're cool, come do it? Or do someone recommend you? Um? They So the whole thing is a mentoring program. So they asked a Little Big Town to do it and They were like, who do you want to mentor? And they said me, So that's really cool. Yeah. When they when my manager told me, oh yeah, Cracker Barol wants you to do this thing, I was like, what could they possibly want me to do? Eat the chicken fried chicken on Instagram. I mean, I did spend a lot of time in Cracker Borowl as a kid, but yeah, I had no idea what was going on, but I was really excited. Now, you seem like a very confident person when it comes to music, and rightfully so, you're super talented. But do you and and let's remove the humility card for one second for the answer this question, because it's removed when you walk and you're playing with Kimberly and Karen, who are fantastic people and love them. Are you at all? Are you a bit intimidated? Or you like, great, I'm good, You're good, Let's just rock it. That's pretty much how rehearsal was. Honestly. I was just excited to be able to sing with people who got harmonies really easily and really efficiently. So if anything, it was fun because yeah, we all like each other and we like and respect what we do. Is I feel like that kind of level the playing field out a little bit. And I wasn't the only thing I was nervous about is like not getting their song right because I like practiced it the night before and I was like, oh, I hope I don't mess this up. But that was it. But to you, it was like, this is cool. All we're all good with professionals were all good. I enjoyed them, but you weren't, like I'm so intimidated to go sing in a room with them. No, not at all. It's cool. It's a good answer and an honest answer. I like that. Like that. Like that. And then they did one of your songs? Which song do they do of yours? More hard then mine? That's cool that I always mess the name. I always call it hearts more of mine? But that I like your version. I like how you say it too, that's cool. I like your flip though. That's that's smart. Yeah. Some songs that you wrote on which is interesting to me, Charlie xc X is boys, here you go. Here's this. I was busy thinking about when probably like two and a half years ago, was she in the room and write it for her? Um? Neither we I just wrote it with my friends in a bedroom and she heard it and it was like the first outside song that she could So you get to call going, hey, Charlie x X is liking it, it's put it on hold, it's cutting it, Like, which what level do you get to call? Um? It was cutting it? And then I wasn't sure what was happening. And then they were like, oh, by the way, she's making this whole music video, all these celebrities in it and it's going to be great, and I was like, oh, perfect, dope, that's cool. Yeah, And so why would you not keep the song for yourself? Was it something you knew wasn't for you? You were just writing? Yeah, I was just having a good time. Honestly, Um it seems to be the theme of you. Yeah, I really, UM know it was. I wrote it with my friends because I had just come from an urban session where like all these guys were talking about all their hose in different area codes and I was like the only chick in the session. So I left being super mad, being like, why do you guys get to sing about all the girls they have and girls don't get to sing about all the guys they have. I just don't think that's fair. So here we are. Did you walk in the room with that idea? Um? Yeah, it kind of came out after, like, you know, I half a bottle of red wine. I was just venting. But we had the hook already and we just were like, how do we develop this story? So do you ever go into a room and you're like, I have this idea and you present it, You're like, okay, what about this? Guys? You're feeling pretty good about it and everyone just kind of looks at you like, oh no, especially if it's like a really deep thought that everybody knows they're really going to have to dig in and they're like, I don't feel like it today. Oh, So that would be the reason if people are kind of tired and yeah, or they're just like, oh wow, that's gonna be like really difficult to write, and I don't think I'm ready for that today. Let's just write something easy. A few days ago, I was writing with a couple of friends and I had an idea. I said, Hey, I'm running from a comedy. We're doing a live comedy record and little Rock and I was like, hey, guys, I got an idea. I said, I want to write this song called It's just Poison ivy, and they all looked at me like wait what, I'm like, listen, trust me on this, like you're with a girl, oh my god, and like I'm the dude exactly where this guy? And I was like, I was like and then she's like see the rabbit. No, no, it's just points an ivy. We wrote it. It's really funny. But wait to hear their face is um, I mean, I, I really do. This is my friend Brandon singing it. I make him sing down all the songs because he's good. Okay, the lights a low, music is slow. I can't believe funny on Tonight's Tonight it feels like perfect. I'm so ready you're mad and I'm ready show you really, but don't freaking that's justice pois Oh my god, I'm if you don't laugh at oh my god, even thinks of that? Well, that's why they looked at me funny. They're like, who even thinks of that? That's well, that means it's a good idea. And so I just wondered if you ever got that look like, oh, but you're probably not that obviously stupid. Yours is for being so deep and and no, that's the first year I've never played that before. We're gonna play this weekend for the first time. Oh my god, I'm excited. It's like an exclusive. Um So, that song? Are you getting checks for that song yet? Has been out long enough to get checks? Writing checks? Okay? Uh, fletchers about you? Let me play this is she? She live a Nashville. She has a lot of Nashville friends. I've seen a lot of my people. I think she did her first ever record with a producer and maybe that's what it was. Yeah, So I talk about this one for a second with you. Hop into the writing room for this one. Um we I wrote this in Nashville actually with my friends. And I guess my question is were you just having a good time or did you go in like really like we're gonna get serious. I know we were just having a guitar like that like that answer? Yeah? Ye? Like who writes that seriously? Which part I enjoy? Yeah? Ya, I enjoy snaps. I enjoy I love that you can be awesome and put all that stuff in. That's what people remember too. Yeah, even that's my favorite part of the super small like us insane like body like a back road. It's the character parts that people remember, the super character parts. I should, I should give you lessons. I'm a real fantastic can say, can you write this down for me? I'll do? You want more pop song than you did? Vice? ADI one to three four? Yeah? It's an old one. Yeah, this one I'm not familiar with. It's a big hit overseas? Was it? Vice? Out of singer DJ Vice d J vi Con Yeah, it's all right, I got you. Wow, I only know like one DJ J Colm. Okay, Well that's cool. So you write these songs? So how do you? Are you able to go to l A and write songs? Are your Nationville people cool with that? You have a publishing deal? Right? How does that work? Um? I have a joint venture with Kardia Guardies publishing company, which is based out of l A. So I've always split my time between or not? Well, yeah, I guess it is. So you write pop songs halftime? I used to? Yeah, still would like to, but I just feel like, I mean, I can just write wherever now, it doesn't really matter. Is the artist thing consuming everything now? Yes? Which is fine because I always wanted to be an artist. But it's also weird having to write songs only about things that are happening in my life. I can't just check out and make up a story anymore. I mean I could, but would you ever make up? Because I have songwriter friends would be like, hey, what do you think about the song? I'll be like, a listen and it's so personal and a little bit makes me a little bit uncomfortable. And I just made this up, and I'm like, this song is about cheating. That's awkward, Like, would you ever write a song that was just You're like, you're writing a fictional tale and you gotta bring it and give it to someone and it's like and they're like, I'm just about you. Who has the third nipple in this song? This you? Oh my god, that's hilarious. I mean, I think I think writing, if you're writing for other people, people don't even care about who writes this song. It's just about who cuts it. So I feel like if they relate to something in that story, then that's what makes it worth it. You moved to Nashville win two thousand, third teen from Boston. Yes, did you finish school or did you jump out early? Jump out early? And Is that pretty common there because it's like, if it's time to work, that's what you went to school for us to work. Yeah, So you leave Boston and you have to have that conversation with your parents like you know, I'm going to jump before I finish. Uh No, they just kind of like let me do whatever. They feel like they instill a good work ethic in me. So they never held me back from wanting to do what I wanted because they let me know, like if you want to pursue this and just know, it's like you need to figure it out, like we're not going to do anything for you. So it wasn't an uncomfortable conversation. You guess I'm gonna have to quit school. I mean we're going to music college. Like it can't get any worse than that. You know, is that considered not a real college when you said that earlier, I just it's just another Oh no, No, I mean Berkeley is amazing, like it is a very esteemed college. But I feel like, I mean, if you're going there, you're obviously wanting to pursue music. So whenever that is, it's your time to do it. So when you move down, did you pack up a truck and bring stuff or did you start over fresh? What happened? No idea. I drove a rental car down to Nashville by myself, and I just had my keyboard and a guitar and just random clothes. And then yeah, crashed in somebody's basement for a little while, for like a few weeks until I found a really sketchy apartment to live in. So where do you start as a new artist without? Did you have friends here when you first moved here? I knew one person was that person in music? Uh, sort of? She was in a singing group with me. Um, so like we had like music connections, but she wasn't like a pursuing being an artist or anything. So what do you do when you first moved to town. You kind of have a friend, but it's not like someone's going to take you and start putting you places. Where do you start as a new artist when you moved to Nashville? Um? Well, I was actually just waiting to get in with Frank Rogers. That was the whole point where I even moved to Nashville's because Kara dio Guardi had sent him some of my songs and he wanted to work with Kara on them and like pitched them to other artists, and she ended up not being able to come down to do it. So I was like, well, I'm just going to do it. So um, I was just basically waiting to get into a session with him. And so in the meantime, I just like waited tables and went to songwriter rounds and learned about the community and what was important. And I didn't even know songwriter rounds were a thing until I got here. So let's go to waiting tables. Where do you work? I waited tables at Bricktops with Devin Dawson. Actually, oh yeah, and who was the better waiter? Because he talks a lot of crap about waiting skills, I'm just gonna say, talking to him, he was not a good waitress. But go ahead, Oh my gosh, you know, he was definitely way nicer than me, Like everybody loved him. I was. I almost got fired like four times. I'm pretty sure I was not not a strong waiter. I mean, I have a hard time believing that the customer is always right, especially when my memory is so good and I know that No, Susan, you did not say no, croutons, you just forgot to go holding it on Susan, still holding it over, Susan, freaking Susan. And so you worked at bricktops for how long? Um? I guess just a few months, from like September to February. And the whole time you're there, you're like, all right, I gotta get out of this. I gotta somehow make enough money doing music that I don't have to do this. Yes, were you working at night? Yeah, and morning like just all the time. So you start to do song right around. But how do you get in an early songwriter around? Um? You sign up somewhere. Do you call and say, hey, if you have an opening? Like? How does that work? Early on? Yeah? I think so you find people to do the writers around with, um, and then you approach them being like, do you have a night open that we can do this? A lot of the times people would just um like invite me out to see them or whatever, and then I get to know people that way, and then I would ask if I could join. I've actually started with me doing it by myself, so nobody ever knew who I was when I would play rounds. But um, that started helping creating like a community of people. Is that when you were inured ingress? Yeah, that's why I confuse that stuff stuff that was me. So uh, at what point did you go, oh, I can compete here like I I. I mean I felt that way since I got here. I feel I felt like I'm a very competitive person. So I would spend a lot of time, even when I wasn't waiting tables, just sitting at my keyboard in my very unfurnished apartment, like working on songs and and that's what was so great is by being able to test them out at rounds and seeing like which songs people got bored with and which ones people responded to. So I feel like I always knew I could compete with it and like be in it, but it was just a matter of me just wanted to get better. Do you prefer to write on piano? I do? Do you write all the time on piano? Um? If I want to switch the vibe up, guitar would be great, But I'm not that great at guitar, So I get annoyed if I don't hear what I'm hearing in my head what whatever I'm playing. So piano is more of that instrument for me that I can just play whatever I'm hearing. Will you chase a lyric or a melody first? Oh, just generally percentage wise what we're looking at here more you're like, okay, here the lytrics? What do I want to say? Or you baboo do I do? And then insert words after you create the melody. Um, if I'm writing pop music, melody, but if I'm writing for me, then definitely lyric. Funny how that works because I have a bunch of popwriter friends that are like, oh, yeah, well, does create melody that we know works, and then we'll just put in some crap words, which is pretty much pop music, and there's a little hyperbole to that. They don't just put in crap words, but there this is a column semi crap. But they're like, it's not as important in pop to have a story, like a legitimate, like tangible story as in in country music. Like even if it's a dope story, it's there's still some texture and you know, there's a body of work there lyrically. Yeah, So it's interesting that that's kind of how you write those songs and pop you chase the melody. Yeah, because it's more it's more about the vibe. I feel like in pop music, you just you want to be able to hear it and then be able to repeat it. And um, that to me is it's fun writing both ways. I honestly can't pick which way is my favorite, because I don't always want to be so heavy about things all the time either, Like sometimes I want something just stupid and but it sounds good. Have you ever been taken into a room to write with an artist for them and it's a massive artist and you just stare at them anyone that you shouldn't be staring. I always play it overly cool with people I think are awesome, to the point where it's like they might be confused if I actually know who they are kind of thing, which is probably not cool, but um, I feel like I have to do that in order to stay in like songwriting mode. Otherwise, if I hype them up too much, then I'll just agree with whatever they say and that it could turn out to be terrible. Um. It says here that you have written with Alicia Keys, so you were in a room with her, Yeah, would you play it too cool? I mean she made it seems she was so welcoming and warm and um. I kind of took on the role as lyricist in the room because I kind of figured out like where the holes were in the session. So I feel like that occupied my time and I didn't really get too caught up in it until she until we all stepped out and she recorded the song, and then that's when I was like, oh my god, different, Yeah, so cool, It's just so cool. That was probably like one of my yeah because I grew up listening to her and I think she's so talented. Can you get a picture or do you have to play a cool and no picture? I feel like no picture that kind of ruins the whole. I mean, unless they want to. Like luckily somebody suggested it. I was going to say, if you didn't already know the move, I was going to give you the movie because you don't want to. This is what I happened, right, I did said I don't. Last year, a few times i'd be really cool people there and I'd be like, holy crap, rivers from Wheezers here. I really got to get a picture. I don't want to go ask him for a picture, right because I'm cool. I'm again it's that vibe. But as we're walking out, um, they're like, youtuo, I tell my friend you know what you too? She get a picture together and I'm like, all right, set the whole thing up. But you got one with Lasia Keys. Yeah that's cool. What about Sam Hunt? Um? That was great. He I feel like he was just getting back into songwriting. Um. So it was which was interesting because I'm like, you are such a great songwriter, and he was so much like, oh is this a good idea? Like I'm not really sure. I'm like, you're Sam Hunt? Like what are you doing? Did he know he was Sam Hunt though? Or did your reminding him? Actually, because that's tricky if they don't know that they're Sam Behind Because one time someone told me I was Sam Hut and I was like, I am the whole whole thing. He did then he then he snapped out of it and it was fine, And how was that? Right? Pretty cool? It was anything that anyone ever cut. Um, I'm not sure what we're doing with those songs. I know he's writing, have friends are writing with him? Now? Yeah? It's just I mean, honestly, it's such a I feel like he's in such an interesting place creatively. I don't blame him for wanting to take his time with what songs he wants to use. It shouldn't be the Nashville Quick System like he should really spend time, like a week if he wants to on one song. You know what was interesting about your story that I did not know is you were on the freaking sing Off. I didn't know that. There's reason for that. Do you like scrub it? Did you scrub it from the internet? No, it's I mean yes, I did, no, No, but I stop. I didn't know that. Do people ask you about that all the time? The sing off? Um? I mean they used to when it was like still a thing. But so what the sing off is? For those that are listening to this wherever you in your car or your phone, whatever, it's an acapella show where you got up and you compete and do acapella. Isn't that where Pentatonic Patonas came from? Yeah, it's freaking thing off. Yeah that's so cool. I think that's so cool. And your name was called pitch Slapped. Pitch Slab was the first season I was on, and then I was in Delilah. Whit you did it? Twice you went back, Well, you're way cooler to me. Now, that's really cool. That's awesome, thank you. Yeah, I actually really enjoyed it. It It showed like what show business was like at a younger time in my life because I was still in college, but it kind of showed me how things work, and it really, um, it made me want to get out and do more stuff because I actually enjoyed being on camera and performing. And how many people in the group? Um and pitch slap. We'll start with that one. Oh, I don't even know the big group or was it like the Barber group? That was like the Berkeley acapella group. Um, we were only on for like one episode. More than eight people? I I can't remember. There was a lot of us. We just weren't like together on the show for more than like I remember more of the second season I was on that was Lilah. Yeah, and that's an a girl group. How many of you were in that group? There's eight of us? Okay, and what do you have a specific role with the title. Oh, well, I was the one who was always put in the most skimpy clothes, which I hated. Okay, I meant more voice, but Okay, we who the whole profile, but like, were you soprano? Okay, yeah, were you the main soprano? We all switched leads. Um Amy was the other soprano. So that was kind of our thing we all had. We all had our Amy sings of rock songs, Ingrid sings the emotional songs, so you would do leads though on that. Oh that's so cool. Did you know have you ever heard of my A buddy has an acapella group called out Here Comes Trouble. Yeah, you're familiar with them. I am there Cornell yeah group. Yeah, yeah, that is cool. I mean I do love acapella. It makes you really have to like be on pitch. You can't really can't mess up. You can't know Here it Comes Trouble. Yeah, you can't. There's no way that when we that's Andy Bernard from the Office and his acapella group from Cornell, Here Comes Trouble. Oh well I thought they had no not Cornell, but there's another group that kind of ripped that name. Oh there is yeah, I was just kidding. No, there is a group. I'm like, that's his group. Yeah, I'm yeah, watch Office. Alright, you go back and you do Delilah. You finished in sixth place. How sad were you not to win? Um? I was actually pretty happy because at that point we had been there for like in a hotel for a very long time. Did you see the Pentatonics people, Yeah, we were all we'd all hang out. Would you acapella switch and like this with each other's group? I mean that would be more of like an after rehearsal thing, like we're all just messing around. Everybody jumps in and like sings. It was actually a really fun environment. There wasn't It wasn't really competitive at all. Everybody was just happy to be there. That's cool. That's that's really cool that you're an a capella group. Yeah, I like at you. Um, you wrote a song that was very dear to you that was cut by someone else. He said, quote she wanted to become an artist, record her own songs. It was like giving away her story. That's a direct quote took from the internet. Would you care to talk about that? Sure? Well, I can't tell you the name of the artist because I don't want to be mean. But McCartney, how did you know? Go ahead? Um? Yeah, it was a song about um my siblings and I wrote it for them and about them, and I thought it was really special and we were really precious with who we wanted to give it away too. I still I was like, oh, man, I don't know, like unless it's somebody really big, Like I don't think I want to really give this away for some reason. And then it just was a situation where I didn't really have a say in it. Um and we're so your publisher gave it away. Uh yeah, pretty much. So I was. I mean, we were promised that it was going to they were going to do stuff with it, and then it just never ended up happening the way that they said it would and the production just turned out not great and it was just ruined. So like I literally from that moment, I was like, I don't think I ever want to go through that again. And I'll probably put it out, honestly, because I never signed anything saying that I wouldn't put it out. Yeah, And if you at least the Nashville rule is. For example, Eric passed Late wrote Friday Night and Lady and e Bellum cut it, put it on the record. They even put it on the record, and they just didn't put out as a single. So he's like, you know what, I'm gonna cut it. I wrote it, I'm gonna cut. He cuts it, puts out it goes number one. Huh, boom, knowledge bomb. You didn't know that that happens. You can people cut and then if you wrote it and recut it if you want, well, I guess that helps if they are not if lady is not on the song to like writeing wise, they are not on the song right. Sometimes in popa gets a little complicated because artists will ask for like one person of publishing even if they're not on the song. So will they be okay? So here's what you know this to it? I'm talking. I'm not talking to you because you know this. When I say you get it. I felt like you have been insulted earlier when I did that, but I wasn't talking to you. I like to talk directly to the people that are listening. So there are artists in town that I know that are shady, And I'm gonna write a couple of words and then I'm gonna get a quarter or a third of the song. Oh oh, you didn't know this in town in Nashville. Huh. I'm not going to say who they are. But I mean, I guess that's kind of clever in a terrible way. Is it clever? Though? Because well, that's the whole songs written there, like I'm gonna cut it, but you know, I'm gonna change a few words and then I In Nashville, it's all split evenly different different writing as it is. In Los Angeles. You write a song, you I'm not talking about you know this. You write a song in l a ever, you know you could get five percent of the song depending on how much you actually gave. In Nashville, if you write a third of it, if you just pop on the song or three people, you get thirty three percent the song regardless. And so there are artists that will I go, I okay, didn't write it, but now I'm gonna be a writer on it, change the line, get a quarter of the song or a third of the song. Not familiar with those artists yet, No, I don't like that. I'm gonna say who it is, but Robert Brooks, it's not. That's the only part that I could That's the only cards that I could go after the bulletproof. The first time you cried during a song was blank um whiskey lullabye. Okay, good. You your first song when you were what are we calling a song? Well, it was called Getting the Mail from My Mom? And here's the clip of it. Like, where did you find it? Oh my god? I was like, did my dad send it to you? That would be so terrible. You were how old when you wrote Getting the Mail for my Mom? Uh? Probably like five? That's seven here. I think you're giving yourself a little too much credit revisionist history. Um was I still get it? Yeah? I was. Yeah, you're right. And now you're you're out doing what's called radio tour. Explain that, Um it is basically me playing my songs for um radio stations wherever like around the country, and um yeah, just meeting them and talking with them about my music and hoping that they play it on their station. And how's that been for you? Good? It has been good. It's been tiring, but that's the same for everybody. And I'm learning a lot, for sure about the whole culture. Do most stations have you go in the morning and play on the air? Um? What's that split of playing on the air, playing in a conference room, or not playing at all. I've been playing mostly conference rooms I'll do I've done a few radio shows, but where I go in and play at the station, but a lot of it has been them just wanting to see like the setup of like me on the piano and like meeting me and talking to me and um, which has been great. I just sometimes get sick of hearing myself over and over again. Is that a thing where now you have to promote you all the time, so it's all about you and you're going, oh my godness over me? Yeah, a little bit, a little bit, but I'm not. It's not like I'm I'm not bored of me, but I just kind of am. I'm like, oh my gosh, I have to pretend like I'm saying this for the first time and it's but I'm not. So I feel like that's hard because I'm like a very honest person and it's hard for me to hide where I'm actually feeling. So if I'm not really digging it, then everybody's going to know about it. Mm hmm. Yeah. Interviews are are are weird because I'm on both sides of them, like I'll do this with you and then I have to interview schedule. They're gonna interview me, and so especially if you do like a whole day of interviews, it's the same questions and over and over again, and you really got to present it like you've never been asked that before. And the worst thing to do because again, if you were to go, if I ask you a question, we go, you know what, I get asked all the time, and you answer the question you won't even know that's like an insult. But but if you were to say that and I'm like, hey, you know X Y Z question mark, you would go, yeah, I get asked all the time. Here's the answer. I'm like, oh, that's a sucky question. So I have to be careful on doing that. On the other side, interesting, yeah, well you're doing a good job so far, I'd say, of this, yeah, thanks, this is like yeah, yeah, this is what I'm good at. Like I'm just like I'm good at this. Thank you for acknowledging that, just giving you affirmation that you don't need it. I'm sure, no, no, I do need it in nineties seven percent of my life. But much like you, we're removing our humility card for a second. You know, you can hop in room with anybody and go, oh, I can play like I did a thing with Rolling Stone and I was like, I'm the second best interviewer in the whole world on the radio period. The only better person better than is Howard Stern. And like I feel good about saying that, not as a dick, but like it's just there's there. I totally get that, Thank you very much. What is what should everyone have that costs less than one um? A neck pillow? You're a neck pillow person on a plane? Yeah, they don't. I didn't work like I just end up. Well, you've got to rotated to where the thicker side is like under here, so you're not having to like crank your deck. You're more like this, that's really functional for you. Yeah, I mean like, I mean yeah, I feel like early flights, especially on radio tour, I just need something to pass out on Otherwise I'm gonna fall on the person next to me and probably drool all over them. Well, I'll go two ways here. The first way is fly on the window a normal I don't like having to ask people to go to that. That's the thing. Okay, here's a secondary question to that. Do you if you have to pee and they're asleep excuse me, or do you hold it? I Uh usually say excuse me when it's getting to the point it's after me being like, oh, I'll be fine, I'll be fine, and then it's almost too late, and then I'm like wake up. And then but I've had it happened to me to where they wouldn't wake up because I'm pretty sure they took like an ambient or something. It was an international flight and that's why I never sit at a window anymore. How did you get out of that? I climbed over them? Yeah, yeah, I went through this recently and I was like what I got on Twitter? And I was like, what do I do? Asleep? And I gotta do I I don't want to wake them up. I wouldn't want to be because it's on me. I'm the one that got the stupid window seat, Like that's my fault. I got the window. But now I got a pee and so but I did. I was like, I'm so sorry. What I did is I waited for one of them to like move their head a little bit, just be like and I was like, well, you're waiting. They weren't awake. They were like just like sniffling or something. And I was like, let me go. Oh man at a great moment in my day because that apace so bad. Okay, the neck PI, I didn't know the way gonna go? But now off? Okay. What is the longest song you have on your playlist? Think about that? Oh, I don't think about that. What's your favorite super long song? I haven't. There aren't really many of them anymore. Do you have a favorite one a long song? Well? I think back when I was seventeen or eighteen doing radio and we used to have CDs at the radio station, and there was one song was five minutes and forty seconds and it was the only song I could run down the hong, go to the bathroom, and then come back in time to switch out the next CD. And it was Matchbox twenty Back to Good, and it was it was so long that when I hear that song still reminds me of it's like, oh you can relax, you go go to the go, go to the bathroom. Interesting, Yeah, so match Box do you know the song? Mike, would you mind not hit us with a little Matchbox twenty back to Good? That's my favorite long song? There are also long song is like Stairway to Heaven, which is before we were both born. But that was super long. Oh, Rob Thomas do you know Rob? You know even set a man called mat before. Yes, Oh my god, I wasn't. I'm going to now No, No, no, I was just some people depending on what where they grew. Maybe we'd only know him from being Rob Thomas in the heads. It wasn't. There's no joke there. I was asking genuinely. This was Okay, what's your favorite quote? Him me with that, Oh my gosh, these are hard ques. They are hard, but take your time saidn't think what's your night pillow one? Take a night of brought it? Honestly, Um, I've only got a couple more of these tough ones. It's just mine stretchers favorite quote. I can't remember who said this. If you ain't got haters, then your ship ain't popping. Yeah. I believe that was me. No, that's good though. Yeah. Hey, are you feeling some pushback since you aren't what is considered super traditional country. Actually no, I was expecting more, and I think I'm very surprised so far that I haven't. But I think people are kind of ready for the progression of wherever we're going in country music. Um, your life is a movie. At what point does the audience gasp most loudly? Oh? I mean the one thing that comes to mind is like, when I hit my tailbone on the side of a pool. I feel like that's pretty cringe worthy. Is this kid tailbone or adult been breaking to him? Okay? Yeah, I feel like that's the one thing where I'm like, oh, that was really I will vividly remember that forever, just sinking to the bottom of the pool. Did someone else gonna get you? Um? I think jump in and rescue you? At you? Let me give you one more? A lot of good ones here, Mike, can me with some good ones today? What is the single worst episode in TV history? Um? I feel like it's got to be a murder? She wrote, like one of those. I feel like some of those get really cheesy. And Brie and I my little sister, were watching one the other day and I was like, this is just really bad, the old Angela Landsberry murder. She wrote, Still watching those, Yeah, I guess maybe new to you. They shouldn't remake that. They could remake that. It's an interesting show to bring back. They bring back everything else. I like at this we've been here an hour, We've done an hour. Mike whereawi? Yeah, anything you'd like to conclude this interview with Because a lot of new people are gonna be exposed to you right now for the first time. Would you like to say to them it's your speech? Oh my gosh, Oh, I don't know. Just just listen to my music if you want to, and if you don't, that's okay. To just have a good time. Just just have a great time. Just have a great time. All right? Check out? Are you able to and you can just say, now are you able to mention to me what you mentioned to me before we started recording? Can I bring that up? Okay? So today you went into your label or your management or what did you do? And what did you guys do? We picked songs that are going to be on my record at the top of next year, which is really cool. Are they all cut? Like or these songs you're listening to work tapes and going we're gonna cut those? Um? All of them sound actually probably five of them are pretty much done, and then the others I just want to reproduce because the demos I wrote them like a while ago, so they sound a little older, so I just got to redo those. The Lady Like Tour is in the UK September six through September six, Germany, Netherlands, Scotland. Ever been to those places? I have? Yeah. I played the CDC Festival earlier this year over in Germany, London and Glasgow. So but I'm excited to go to Amsterdam. I'll be there on my birthday. Best place to be on your birthday. I don't know what I'm gonna do, honestly, because I don't really smoke or anything, so I'll probably just go to the red light district and stare at people and get a prosperate. But listen the hookers. Oh yeah, that's gonna be my thing. Playing a cl weekend one in October. Yeah, I've never been. Have you been? Oh? Yeah? I live in Austin still, so, Um, it's my favorite and you'll love it and it's amazing. Every part of that whole thing is awesome. A c L is great, Austin's the best city. Um and home to what city is home to you? Um? What do you say? Do you say Denver? Why? I say Highland's Ranch and then people give me a weird look, and then I say never interesting. Okay, there it is. We have done it. You're uh seth meyers cool to do? Yeah? Really cool. I only got to play because normally they have you sing it and then you have the option to do it again because it's like pre taped, and they only let me do it once. And I wanted to do it because it was so good? Is that why? Yes? No, really, you just nailed it. They were like, that's perfect. Why would you do it again? Yeah? But I was pissed because you wait all day and then it's like three minutes and then it's over, and I wanted to do it one more time. Your dream collaboration will be with who is this a quiz? Did I tell you already? I can't remember? Oh okay, I thought you were doing the recap thing of like, I don't think you said that here? Oh say it again? Maybe you did? Did you might know? Go ahead? Okay, dream collapse. It must be every other interviewer that has asked this question. We finally hit it. We're ending on an insult. Go ahead, sorry, go ahead. I feel like I really loving Louis Capaldi right now. He his voice is just so freaking good and it sounds so emotional, and I feel like he would make any emotional song just the best. All right, we've done an hour. It's it's been. I told Mike before he came in. I was like, some new artists they haven't They don't really have their message yet. They don't know what not what to say, but they don't know what they're saying. There's a difference because you can learn what to say who cares, Just say what you've been taught to say, but what you're saying is a whole different deal. And Mike and I were talking about it, like sometimes we people come in if they're new and they don't really know what they're saying. But it's it's you know what you're saying. I like that. It's cool, confident, it's good, it's refreshing. So Ingrid Andrews follow her at Ingrid Andrew's on Instagram. You're the only Ingrid in country music too, I think, I think so do you get Ingram Michaelson there where people are like, oh, Ingrid, Yeah, I'm always yeah, I'm the less famous Ingrid. Ingrid Andrews streamer. Check it out. Good to talk to you, Nice to have you over here. And there we Go, Episode one of the Bobby Cast with Ingrid Andres father