Final Fantasy VII Remake Part Three is "On Time"

<v Speaker 1>Hey, everybody, welcome to Game Mess Mornings with Me Jeff
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<v Speaker 1>all right. I'm gonna hang in there, everybody, We're back.
<v Speaker 1>Thank you for tuning in. In this episode, we're gonna
<v Speaker 1>be talking about solving that PlayStation DRM drama and a
<v Speaker 1>new game from which R three devs reappears. It's gonna
<v Speaker 1>be a good one because we have Miles Obenza on
<v Speaker 1>the show.
<v Speaker 2>Miles, how are you doing doing well?
<v Speaker 3>Jeff? Thank you so much for having me. It's been
<v Speaker 3>a long time coming, but I made it and we're
<v Speaker 3>doing it. I'm excited to hem.
<v Speaker 1>Glad we could, Glad we can make it happen. Glad
<v Speaker 1>you're here. I'm gonna have you indulge me for a second.
<v Speaker 1>I was just troubleshooting my other PC, my like home
<v Speaker 1>Theater PC. I guess that I have connected to my
<v Speaker 1>TV over there, and I think I solved the issue.
<v Speaker 2>I want to.
<v Speaker 1>I want to give you a chance, Miles to guess
<v Speaker 1>what the problem was, because you never ever will, so
<v Speaker 1>anything you say, feel free, just throw anything out there.
<v Speaker 2>What do you think is wrong with that PC? Oh?
<v Speaker 3>God, yeah, I don't know.
<v Speaker 2>I don't know exactly, Yeah, exactly, That's how I felt.
<v Speaker 1>I was in there kind of just like trying all
<v Speaker 1>kinds of stuff. I'm like, is it the memory? Like
<v Speaker 1>I was able to get in the windows like one
<v Speaker 1>out of every twenty times of booting it up, and
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, okay, I'm I'm in the windows now. Let
<v Speaker 1>me see if there's something wrong with these drives. Nothing,
<v Speaker 1>They're all coming back clean checks and stuff like that.
<v Speaker 1>I repaired some Windows stuff. I'm like, I think I
<v Speaker 1>got it. It's fine. I'm going to restart this thing.
<v Speaker 1>And then it goes right back into this trouble where
<v Speaker 1>it's not booting miles. I think the problem is I
<v Speaker 1>have it plugged into this Sony TV that was causing
<v Speaker 1>the post to break. So like when it was like
<v Speaker 1>starting out, but hey, is everything good? Like you have
<v Speaker 1>a keyboard, you have a monitor? Oh you don't have
<v Speaker 1>a monitor. It's like, no, I do. It's just this
<v Speaker 1>Sony TV is so goddamn bad with HDMI that I
<v Speaker 1>think it was just towing the computer to fuck off.
<v Speaker 1>And I am I'm losing my mind a little bit
<v Speaker 1>because I've already like, do not like this TV? And
<v Speaker 1>I like I have to restart it all the time
<v Speaker 1>just to get all kinds of stuff to work. The
<v Speaker 1>idea that it wouldn't even let my PC boot was
<v Speaker 1>extremely frustrating.
<v Speaker 2>So it's time. I need to get a new I
<v Speaker 2>need to get a new TV Miles. I don't know
<v Speaker 2>what to do.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, something like that happened to me yesterday. My second
<v Speaker 3>monitor just crapped out while I was working, and I
<v Speaker 3>was like, Uh, what's gonna happen for this show? I
<v Speaker 3>need the second monitor like badly, even when I'm not
<v Speaker 3>on a show. So yeah, I can empathize.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was.
<v Speaker 1>It was robbing like like up until like ten minutes ago.
<v Speaker 1>I was still trying to figure it out. I think
<v Speaker 1>I think that's it now. Hopefully that's it, because if
<v Speaker 1>it's not, I'm just gonna I don't know, I just
<v Speaker 1>won't ever. Yeah No, I'm just don I'm gonna move
<v Speaker 1>to the woods. Yeah that's the only answer here. But yeah, myles,
<v Speaker 1>you know the first time on your show, told people
<v Speaker 1>about yourself, tell them like where they can find you,
<v Speaker 1>all that stuff.
<v Speaker 2>Go ahead.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so Miname is mom depens. Hello. I am the
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<v Speaker 1>All right, we have a lot to get so let's
<v Speaker 1>start the morning mess with checking out on jan Jan
<v Speaker 1>Are we good?
<v Speaker 2>We're still live? Uh? We should still be live the
<v Speaker 2>health Oh that's fine, nothing looks bonkers. Okay, this might
<v Speaker 2>be a Twitch thing. Sounds good. Let's get into it
<v Speaker 2>this first story.
<v Speaker 1>Then, new theory says PS four and PS five thirty
<v Speaker 1>day digital game timers are temporary to stop piracy, and
<v Speaker 1>then they become permanent after fourteen days. That's not the
<v Speaker 1>check doesn't become permanent. Your license to the game becomes permanent.
<v Speaker 1>Let's say if we can work our way through this.
<v Speaker 1>This is from Chris going In at VGC. Recent reports
<v Speaker 1>that new PS four and PS five digital game purchases
<v Speaker 1>purchases have introduced apparent DRM requiring online activation every thirty
<v Speaker 1>days may not be as severe as once thought. According
<v Speaker 1>to new claims earlier this week, it was reported that
<v Speaker 1>the new version thirteen point twenty update for the PlayStation
<v Speaker 1>five console appear to also have brought, what with it,
<v Speaker 1>a form of digital rights management in which digitally purchased
<v Speaker 1>games have to be verified. The theory tested by numeor
<v Speaker 1>YouTube channels was that any digital game purchased on or
<v Speaker 1>after a certain date appeared to have a thirty day
<v Speaker 1>timer applied, suggesting that if the player didn't play the
<v Speaker 1>game for thirty days, they would have to connect their
<v Speaker 1>console online to renew the license and reset the timer
<v Speaker 1>to thirty days again. Now, players who made such purchases
<v Speaker 1>a couple of weeks ago have started reporting that the
<v Speaker 1>thirty day timers have been disappearing from these purchases, leading
<v Speaker 1>to more investigation as to exactly what's going on. Reset
<v Speaker 1>Era user Andrew and shrew excuse me, who owns a
<v Speaker 1>jail broken PlayStation flour and has been using it to
<v Speaker 1>try to figure out what's happening, appears to have found
<v Speaker 1>a potential explanation, claiming that the timer is a one
<v Speaker 1>time measure to avoid piracy, and that digital game purchases
<v Speaker 1>lose their timer and become permanent after a couple of
<v Speaker 1>weeks so Miles the thing that apparently is happening here.
<v Speaker 1>We've gone through a lot of iterations of people having
<v Speaker 1>theories about what this is. So the reason we have
<v Speaker 1>to have these theories stonies not set anything. PlayStation has
<v Speaker 1>not made any public statements about this, so it's been
<v Speaker 1>left to the community to sort of do that science.
<v Speaker 1>And what this is saying here is when you purchase
<v Speaker 1>a PlayStation game digitally, there is that fourteen day refund window.
<v Speaker 1>Now that might sound like straight for me, I'm like,
<v Speaker 1>what refund window? If PlayStation doesn't do refunds, It's like, okay, no,
<v Speaker 1>they do. Their policy is there's that fourteen day period
<v Speaker 1>where if you purchase the game digitally and you don't
<v Speaker 1>start downloading it and you don't start like playing it
<v Speaker 1>or whatever, but downloading it even you can get a
<v Speaker 1>refund on it for the first fourteen days. That is
<v Speaker 1>seemingly the day at which after that that fifteenth day,
<v Speaker 1>this timer goes away. So it seems like this DRM
<v Speaker 1>is related to that window, and people are sort of
<v Speaker 1>just kind of maybe noticing that for.
<v Speaker 2>The first time in a real way. What do you
<v Speaker 2>make of this?
<v Speaker 1>Do you think PlayStation will ever even come out and
<v Speaker 1>acknowledge that this was a controversy.
<v Speaker 3>I think they might have been planning to until this
<v Speaker 3>VGC story broke. It kind of feels like, I don't
<v Speaker 3>know how long that's And I also didn't know that
<v Speaker 3>the refund thing was even a think because I buy
<v Speaker 3>all my games in a box because I'm old and
<v Speaker 3>I just like to have them that way. Sure, but
<v Speaker 3>it overall just kind of does feel like best case scenario,
<v Speaker 3>where like, you won't lose your games and you won't
<v Speaker 3>have to connect online every what thirty days or so?
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, thirty days was the month.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, overall, it's a fine outcome. Glad, it's
<v Speaker 3>not any worse.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, right right.
<v Speaker 1>This is the kind of thing where it is easy
<v Speaker 1>to let our imaginations run away with themselves once we
<v Speaker 1>start hearing that the early part of like, wait, I
<v Speaker 1>have to check in every thirty days. This is the
<v Speaker 1>nightmare scenario that everyone warned us about with digital games
<v Speaker 1>versus physical purchases, and with the licensing issue of do
<v Speaker 1>you really own your games? You know, the fact remains
<v Speaker 1>that Sony does have the power to do this stuff. Still,
<v Speaker 1>they have made a sort of truce with the consumers,
<v Speaker 1>saying that they won't do it, at least they did
<v Speaker 1>many years ago, and I think people are like, that
<v Speaker 1>is an uneasy excuse me, that's an uneasy truce where
<v Speaker 1>at any moment, some upstart executive inside of PlayStation and
<v Speaker 1>Sony Interactive Entertainment could change their mind on this. And
<v Speaker 1>at this point, because there is less competition from Xbox,
<v Speaker 1>maybe they won't feel the heat, won't feel the pressure
<v Speaker 1>to reverse that.
<v Speaker 2>And I still feel like that day might come.
<v Speaker 1>But that is my anxiety, my anxieties and my fear speaking,
<v Speaker 1>not necessarily the evidence on the table before us. Like
<v Speaker 1>on the grand scale of time, we probably still are
<v Speaker 1>looking at scenarios that are a little bit worse than
<v Speaker 1>this one, right Or is that me still being a paranoid.
<v Speaker 3>No, I don't think so. There was another headline I
<v Speaker 3>saw leading up to hopping on this show today. I
<v Speaker 3>forget exactly, but it was like Denovo is Likenuvo? Yeah, yeah,
<v Speaker 3>it's like not, it's like useless. Now there was like
<v Speaker 3>some other bypass that happened, and I wonder how much
<v Speaker 3>that's going to play into like what happens here and
<v Speaker 3>if PlayStations will kind of tighten their grip even more so.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that story, we should just touch on that real quick.
<v Speaker 1>That's uh, that is the DRM at a kernel level
<v Speaker 1>for PC games that like it's anti tamper, anti cheat,
<v Speaker 1>and but really anti piracy. And it's been in a
<v Speaker 1>lot of games that usually gets cracked, but apparently it's
<v Speaker 1>been sort of cracked across the board.
<v Speaker 2>And so in response, uh.
<v Speaker 1>There's been like two K Games, I believe, and again
<v Speaker 1>I'm going I'm going for memory here, but I think
<v Speaker 1>this is right. Two K Games is introducing a fourteen
<v Speaker 1>day check where it's like, yeah, you had like the
<v Speaker 1>game is only going to work for you for fourteen
<v Speaker 1>days and if you don't renew that, it's gonna it's
<v Speaker 1>gonna go away. Very similar to this, and that, you know,
<v Speaker 1>the whole idea is danuva doesn't you know, require that
<v Speaker 1>it makes it so it's a little bit more streamlined.
<v Speaker 1>Of course, Danuva has all of its own problems of
<v Speaker 1>performance issues and causing all kinds of headaches for people
<v Speaker 1>who are just trying to play their legitimately purchased games,
<v Speaker 1>and people who do find the crack often have an
<v Speaker 1>easier time playing these games, and that's always frustrating. Where
<v Speaker 1>it's like the pirate got a better experience than me.
<v Speaker 1>But these companies they really do hate piracy and they
<v Speaker 1>are sort of resorting to an old style of online
<v Speaker 1>check in response to that Danuvo issue. So yeah, we
<v Speaker 1>know these companies are ready and willing to do this,
<v Speaker 1>and two K was like we could do it at
<v Speaker 1>the drop of a hat when Danubo breaks. I think
<v Speaker 1>that is the thing where like we know those sorts
<v Speaker 1>of methods are waiting right around the corner for us,
<v Speaker 1>and there's just a couple of maybe goodwilled employees at
<v Speaker 1>these companies holding that stuff back from ruining our day, right.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, just very anti consumer if you know, I
<v Speaker 3>get it's only twenty six and like if you have
<v Speaker 3>a PSI or APS four, odds are you're logging online
<v Speaker 3>every month anyway, but maybe you can't. Maybe that month
<v Speaker 3>you have to forgo your internet bill for something else.
<v Speaker 3>Like gaming is a hobby, but it's like global, it's everywhere,
<v Speaker 3>so there's a lot of people who you know, still
<v Speaker 3>gain but don't you know, always have access to stuff
<v Speaker 3>like this. So yeah, a very anti consumer thing if
<v Speaker 3>that thirty day time were to be the norm.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I think you know, in this moment, as
<v Speaker 1>we're kind of shifting from the PlayStation story to the
<v Speaker 1>Danuvo story, Uh, the concern would be, you know, Danuvo's
<v Speaker 1>not going to go away, right, They're not going to
<v Speaker 1>like raise the white flag and give up. This is
<v Speaker 1>their business, and I think the expectation I would have
<v Speaker 1>is they're going to come back with a new version
<v Speaker 1>that is worse in every way, that causes more problems,
<v Speaker 1>but delivers on the key thing that their partners, their
<v Speaker 1>business partners want, which is protection from piracy. So like,
<v Speaker 1>you know, as this thing sort of is a downward spiral,
<v Speaker 1>it's like every sort of tit for tat between pirates
<v Speaker 1>and Danuvo, it's like they're just going to keep going
<v Speaker 1>deeper and deeper and deeper.
<v Speaker 2>The pirates will always find a way around it.
<v Speaker 1>So it's just going to keep getting worse for the
<v Speaker 1>you know, the honest pain consumer. All Right, Yeah, no worries.
<v Speaker 1>Let's shift over to the next story here. Take who
<v Speaker 1>CEO addresses grand theft, Auto six price and the possibility
<v Speaker 1>of more La noir. You know this this is from
<v Speaker 1>bomore at ign there's no like, there's no details yet
<v Speaker 1>still about that price, right, we still don't know what
<v Speaker 1>they're charging. So we're trying to decode his language here
<v Speaker 1>and seeing, like you know, taking a temperature check of
<v Speaker 1>like what is he feeling, and it still feels like
<v Speaker 1>it could be any price from seventy to one hundred dollars.
<v Speaker 1>But let's get into the story from Bomore over at IGN.
<v Speaker 1>Speaking at icon today, which is a news conference or
<v Speaker 1>new conference for video game executives, sounds like hell on
<v Speaker 1>Earth to me.
<v Speaker 2>Take two CEO.
<v Speaker 1>Straus Zelnick addressed the much debated question of how much
<v Speaker 1>Grand Theft Auto six will cost. He declined to confirm
<v Speaker 1>the game's price, but hinted away, hinted away from the
<v Speaker 1>potentially super premium price point that has been floated in
<v Speaker 1>the past. Consumers pay for the value that you bring
<v Speaker 1>to them, and our job is to charge way way
<v Speaker 1>less of the value delivery. Zelnick said, how you feel
<v Speaker 1>about something you buy is the intersection of the thing
<v Speaker 1>itself and what you pay for it. Consumers need to
<v Speaker 1>feel like the thing itself is amazing and the price
<v Speaker 1>they were charged was fair for what they got. He
<v Speaker 1>went on to mention that game pricing has actually gotten
<v Speaker 1>cheaper over the years. A reference to the fact that
<v Speaker 1>major game releases have been priced at sixty or at
<v Speaker 1>most seventy for more than a decade as compared to
<v Speaker 1>greater rates of inflation seen in the wider economy. So
<v Speaker 1>he's definitely like still laying the groundwork for any price there.
<v Speaker 1>If you look at it through that lens, that doesn't
<v Speaker 1>make a whole lot of sense. But that isn't the
<v Speaker 1>lens through which we look at it, and instead instead
<v Speaker 1>we look at how do you deliver something amazing and
<v Speaker 1>how do we make sure that what people pay for
<v Speaker 1>it feels very reasonable, Miles, I let you kind of
<v Speaker 1>have the floor here first. What do you think this
<v Speaker 1>thing's going to cost? Like, how do you decode what
<v Speaker 1>Zelnik is saying, Oh.
<v Speaker 3>It's definitely not could be sixy. I can start with that.
<v Speaker 3>This statement feels very like corporate ask kind of nothing
<v Speaker 3>burger speak. They're leaving the floor open to it being
<v Speaker 3>a plus, which is kind of what I am anticipating.
<v Speaker 3>I think Mario Kart World set that precedent to where
<v Speaker 3>it was eighty bucks people it's now sure, yeah, it's
<v Speaker 3>an option. People weren't happy about it, but they still
<v Speaker 3>bought it. Gratz thought of six is one of those
<v Speaker 3>games where you know, eighty dollars plus you'll be like,
<v Speaker 3>oh man, that's crazy. Okay, well I'm gonna pre order
<v Speaker 3>right now. Yeah. But going back to Stomach's messaging, it
<v Speaker 3>just feels, yeah, he's saying certain things that sound good
<v Speaker 3>but don't ultimately like mean anything.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, exactly.
<v Speaker 1>I think that that is the one thing I would
<v Speaker 1>take away is he hasn't closed the door on anything here. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>because because it is all so much nothing, you know
<v Speaker 1>it had he come and been like, you know, we
<v Speaker 1>just know the consumer won't accept one hundred dollars. He's
<v Speaker 1>not saying that, yeah, and uh, well we can't charge
<v Speaker 1>you know, sixty dollars for this thing because it cost
<v Speaker 1>this much to make.
<v Speaker 2>He didn't say that either.
<v Speaker 1>To me, like, not lopping enough any options means that
<v Speaker 1>I think they are still leaning toward more than you
<v Speaker 1>would expect.
<v Speaker 2>Eighty dollars does seem very likely at this point.
<v Speaker 1>I think then, I think it would be hard in
<v Speaker 1>that boardroom to for strauss Zelnik to look at the
<v Speaker 1>board members and have rock Star and all these people
<v Speaker 1>behind them and say this game should cost less than
<v Speaker 1>Mario Kart. I think that's a good point of compare
<v Speaker 1>with some miles, because I think they will be like, no,
<v Speaker 1>we should at least be as much as Mario Kart.
<v Speaker 1>This game is going to sell more than Mario Kart,
<v Speaker 1>and it will be bigger and all this stuff, you know,
<v Speaker 1>all that that out there there is like certainly going
<v Speaker 1>to be a tier of options when people go to
<v Speaker 1>buy this thing initially, and him speaking about making people
<v Speaker 1>feel like they've got a value. One thing that a
<v Speaker 1>lot of companies have been doing to make people feel
<v Speaker 1>like they're getting away with something and they're getting more
<v Speaker 1>than they bargained for is you could feel special by
<v Speaker 1>having this game early. Here is early access for one
<v Speaker 1>hundred dollars, and that feels almost like a certainty for
<v Speaker 1>this game of people can play it seven days early,
<v Speaker 1>five days early, way, whatever it is for the one
<v Speaker 1>hundred dollars price tag, and millions of people will do that.
<v Speaker 1>I think millions of people will do that. And then
<v Speaker 1>effectively the price of this game is somewhere between eighty
<v Speaker 1>and one hundred because people you know, it averages out,
<v Speaker 1>but millions of people bought it at one hundred dollars.
<v Speaker 1>Like I always go back to forts the Horizon five,
<v Speaker 1>it had early access, and like a million people were
<v Speaker 1>playing that thing early. And that was a combination of
<v Speaker 1>people buying the the digital deluxe version that gave you
<v Speaker 1>early access or upgrading from game Pass for like forty
<v Speaker 1>dollars or whatever it was to get early access, but
<v Speaker 1>people were paying the money for that premium access to
<v Speaker 1>that game. And that's forts the Horizon five a very
<v Speaker 1>popular game, but not Grand Theft Auto. So I think
<v Speaker 1>that my expectation here, Miles is we're going to get
<v Speaker 1>a lot of details about this game pretty soon. It's
<v Speaker 1>probably going to come out this year, and when it hits,
<v Speaker 1>when those details hit, it's going to be yes, here
<v Speaker 1>is a way for you to give us all the
<v Speaker 1>money in the world.
<v Speaker 2>Right.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they're going to find every strategy they can to
<v Speaker 3>capitalize off, like the fact that it's colloquially known as
<v Speaker 3>the most anticipated game of all time to most people,
<v Speaker 3>whether it's in our space or not. And yeah, that
<v Speaker 3>eighty dollars price egg, I imagine will just be for like
<v Speaker 3>the standard edition, whereas there's going to be like a
<v Speaker 3>deluxe edition of premium blah blah blah, and just kind
<v Speaker 3>of just keep climbing and climbing and climbing, and like
<v Speaker 3>you said, early access, a lot of people like that
<v Speaker 3>kind of thing. They can't wait a week to save
<v Speaker 3>like twenty to forty dollars or so. Yeah, that's I
<v Speaker 3>can definitely see that happening, and it wouldn't be shocked
<v Speaker 3>if a lot of people. Yeah, just just really spend
<v Speaker 3>the money on it.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's the modern day version of the marshmallow test, right.
<v Speaker 1>You put the marshmallow in front of the kid and
<v Speaker 1>you tell the if you don't eat this for fifteen minutes,
<v Speaker 1>you get two marshmallows. Lust gamers, we're just eating that
<v Speaker 1>one marshmallow, the wondering why we're not getting a second one.
<v Speaker 2>We're smart people. I will say call that every once
<v Speaker 2>in a while.
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, man, I don't want to wait any longer.
<v Speaker 1>It's just twenty forty and I've work myself into a shoot.
<v Speaker 1>Uh grant theft thought A six probably is coming.
<v Speaker 2>Out this year.
<v Speaker 1>Do you feel like the delay is still possible? I mean,
<v Speaker 1>obviously it's ill possible, but what do you think.
<v Speaker 3>I think delaying it from May to November nineteen, I
<v Speaker 3>think that's enough time for them to really like and
<v Speaker 3>I don't say this as like a good thing, and
<v Speaker 3>I don't want to use the word crunch, but I
<v Speaker 3>think it's it's it's it's enough time for them to
<v Speaker 3>really polish it, because it's been delayed enough. I think,
<v Speaker 3>I think if they delayed it one more time, it
<v Speaker 3>would be I don't know, I feel gonna be worse
<v Speaker 3>press than it was when it was delayed earlier.
<v Speaker 1>Yep, Yep, absolutely, I'm I think that they really want
<v Speaker 1>to have this one out this year.
<v Speaker 2>And uh and and you know, I.
<v Speaker 1>Bet it could have even had come out in May,
<v Speaker 1>but they wanted to just like you said, polish things up.
<v Speaker 1>And now it's like whatever polish they are able to do,
<v Speaker 1>that's great, but let's start making some money from this
<v Speaker 1>thing that has been cost you know, so much to
<v Speaker 1>produce for so many years now exactly.
<v Speaker 3>And the rest of the industry thinks that that's happening too,
<v Speaker 3>because we've heard the stories of like, well, we don't
<v Speaker 3>want to launch our game around that window because we
<v Speaker 3>want to avoid grants of thought of six. So I'd
<v Speaker 3>be shocked if it didn't.
<v Speaker 1>Right, And it's you know, I don't think Strauslnik is
<v Speaker 1>calling up Asha Sharma and saying, hey, just watch your toes.
<v Speaker 1>We're putting the game out. But Asha sharmas to certainly
<v Speaker 1>dialed in the people in charge of these big companies
<v Speaker 1>the xboxes in the PlayStation. Yep, they're dialed in enough
<v Speaker 1>to know, oh, this really really state feels real, and
<v Speaker 1>you're right. They are making the necessary adjustments to avoid
<v Speaker 1>being in grand Theft Auto six is wake smartly, so
<v Speaker 1>all right, next story here. Monument Valley boss says it
<v Speaker 1>was quote too romantic about giving staff long term job
<v Speaker 1>security and things contractors are the future. This is from
<v Speaker 1>Chris Scully and VVGC, the chair of the UK Games
<v Speaker 1>Industry trade body, Yuki and the CEO of Monument Valley
<v Speaker 1>studio US two Games say it's becoming less viable for
<v Speaker 1>smaller studios to retain long term employees. In an interview
<v Speaker 1>with game developer Maria Seyons said the studio has been
<v Speaker 1>making games that cost between seven million pounds and ten
<v Speaker 1>million pounds, with production cycles lasting three to four years,
<v Speaker 1>noting we need to lower that. The boss explained that
<v Speaker 1>US two Games currently employees just under thirty people, down
<v Speaker 1>from a peak of around forty, while Monument Valley three
<v Speaker 1>was in development, before suggesting that the studio shouldn't have
<v Speaker 1>hired so many full time employees and should have hired
<v Speaker 1>more contractors instead to ensure less of a long term commitment.
<v Speaker 1>We've been a little bit too romantic about the idea
<v Speaker 1>that we should have employees and give people long long
<v Speaker 1>term job security, Sands said. I think that got us
<v Speaker 1>into a place where reaching the heights of Monument Valley three,
<v Speaker 1>production contractors were always a relatively low percentage of our
<v Speaker 1>employee base. I think that's something we're looking to change
<v Speaker 1>going forward. Saan suggested that US two would hire more
<v Speaker 1>contractors in the future, noting that this wasn't something she
<v Speaker 1>ideally wanted to do, but the industry is now headed
<v Speaker 1>that way. She continues on in that vein for a
<v Speaker 1>little bit. But yeah, yeah, this is one of those
<v Speaker 1>ones where oh man, they're just saying it. They are
<v Speaker 1>just flat out saying the thing that's like, oh, people
<v Speaker 1>that work for us and make the thing that makes
<v Speaker 1>us money should not feel secure. And it's like, I
<v Speaker 1>get what she's trying to get at, where it's like,
<v Speaker 1>this is a it's a volatile business. There's ups and
<v Speaker 1>downs and permanent commitments kind of create a lot of
<v Speaker 1>pressure that cost some problems. Sure, but the idea that
<v Speaker 1>like the answer to that is for you to go
<v Speaker 1>out publicly say, man, we shouldn't be offering people's job security.
<v Speaker 2>That's too much. Oh then what are we even doing here?
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's just classic video games industry capitalist hellscape. And
<v Speaker 3>I haven't played Monument Valley, but I mean, and I
<v Speaker 3>don't really know much about developing a game, but they're
<v Speaker 3>not the most like mechanically or graphically complex games, right,
<v Speaker 3>So again this is me speaking from relative ignorance, but
<v Speaker 3>these games can't take three to four years to make, right,
<v Speaker 3>And so I don't know how much. Yeah, I'm not
<v Speaker 3>sure either. But my point with that is like the
<v Speaker 3>cost versus how much it costs to retain your employees
<v Speaker 3>versus profit, Like I don't know, doesn't doesn't seem like
<v Speaker 3>a thing that should be happening, and just basedline across
<v Speaker 3>the board, whether it's in video games or not, like,
<v Speaker 3>this is not a way you should talk about your employees,
<v Speaker 3>especially if you want to retain them to continue to
<v Speaker 3>make stuff games here specifically, I don't know, I just
<v Speaker 3>can't help, but like just scoff at it, I don't know.
<v Speaker 1>Yes, it's the it's the kind of thing where, you know,
<v Speaker 1>other industries are not necessarily solved for this, but there
<v Speaker 1>are ideas in other industries where they're gig based, like
<v Speaker 1>making films, that is a gig based industry where you
<v Speaker 1>go from one gig to the next, but there are
<v Speaker 1>some structures in place, like the unions that provide the
<v Speaker 1>healthcare for the people that work as as grips or
<v Speaker 1>whatever in that industry.
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if grip's actually get insurance, but.
<v Speaker 1>There are like you know, writers and all these people
<v Speaker 1>that move from one job to the next because there's
<v Speaker 1>only money there while you're making it, and then in
<v Speaker 1>the years, like there's no company or the production company
<v Speaker 1>that exists and does have a staff, they don't need
<v Speaker 1>the grip on the times when they're not making a production.
<v Speaker 2>So the idea is, let's let's staff up for this.
<v Speaker 1>We are contracting these people out, but there is a
<v Speaker 1>backbone to this industry that expects that to happen and
<v Speaker 1>provides a pathway for that person to go from one
<v Speaker 1>gig to the next.
<v Speaker 2>These sort of funnels from one.
<v Speaker 1>Job to the next, and the video game industry has
<v Speaker 1>none of that, it does not have that backbone. And
<v Speaker 1>so these these these companies saying that, yeah, we're basically
<v Speaker 1>gonna have a gig based infrastructure. Okay, I get why
<v Speaker 1>that is financially incentivizing, why that is like start of
<v Speaker 1>enticing to you, But what about the people's lives of
<v Speaker 1>the people who are producing the thing that is making
<v Speaker 1>you money? And there is no answer there because it
<v Speaker 1>does not actually affect their bottom line, so they do
<v Speaker 1>not care to answer it. And it's like, you know,
<v Speaker 1>I get it. We're like I own a business now,
<v Speaker 1>so I get it. Like looking at the numbers, is, man,
<v Speaker 1>how do we do more? How do we take care
<v Speaker 1>of people better? And it's it's challenging, absolutely, but I
<v Speaker 1>don't think the answers sort of like throw my hands
<v Speaker 1>up and go like, well, I mean people, the people
<v Speaker 1>that are they just shouldn't feel secure.
<v Speaker 2>So what No, we gotta gotta find answers for these problems.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and I guess, I'll I guess in a way
<v Speaker 3>to like spin it positively, it could be seen as
<v Speaker 3>a good thing for like new people and new developers
<v Speaker 3>in the industry who were still like looking for work.
<v Speaker 3>But it was the double edged sword there. Yes, for
<v Speaker 3>the people who've been for years. So it's give and take,
<v Speaker 3>I guess, but I'm still yeah, just the messaging behind
<v Speaker 3>this is just so toned up.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, there was certainly a time where like this,
<v Speaker 1>it was just accepted that you could get a job
<v Speaker 1>in this industry. And yeah, that was gonna be hard
<v Speaker 1>for these companies, and sometimes there would be layoffs after
<v Speaker 1>our project went out, but there were years where you
<v Speaker 1>could have employment and then you would take that experience,
<v Speaker 1>you shipped the game, and you could go get another
<v Speaker 1>job somewhere else, and yeah, that's hectic and volatile and
<v Speaker 1>not great, but you know the expectation you would go
<v Speaker 1>from one full time employment to the next. And now
<v Speaker 1>these companies are like, why are we doing that, Let's
<v Speaker 1>just contract them out, and well, there's labor laws. That's
<v Speaker 1>why you're doing it because you know, at a certain
<v Speaker 1>point you got to they made a threshold of they
<v Speaker 1>should just be full time employees.
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, the companies don't want to do that.
<v Speaker 1>It is, and they look at like that cost as
<v Speaker 1>this terrifying thing. These the capital expenditures versus operational expenditures.
<v Speaker 1>That capex spending terrifies companies and they're they're trying to
<v Speaker 1>avoid that as much as possible, and it's hurting people,
<v Speaker 1>and it's hurting this industry because senior developers, senior designers,
<v Speaker 1>people that know how to make good games are wondering
<v Speaker 1>why they're putting up with this and going to much
<v Speaker 1>more stable industries. Although how many stable industries remain these days? Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>not many, not many. All right, let's go ahead and
<v Speaker 1>take a break. We got plenty of more headlines to
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<v Speaker 1>Game mess Mornings. We're back on Jeff Grubb, that's Miles Obenza.
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna get back into the headlines here with Final
<v Speaker 1>Fantasy seven Rebirth demo is now live on switch To
<v Speaker 1>and Xbox Series. This is from Sal Ramano at Gamatsu.
<v Speaker 1>Squaringex has released a demo for the Xbox Series and
<v Speaker 1>switch To and Microsoft Store PC versions of Final Fantasy
<v Speaker 1>seven Rebirth. Save data from the demo will be carried
<v Speaker 1>over to the full game kind of I did a
<v Speaker 1>quick glance miles to see what people are saying about
<v Speaker 1>the Switch to versions performance. It is not the miracle
<v Speaker 1>port that some other games have been. It is like,
<v Speaker 1>so it's an ambitious thirty frames per second port is
<v Speaker 1>how many people are putting it, and they do say
<v Speaker 1>good enough is the phrase. I've been seeing quite a
<v Speaker 1>bit of good enough. You could justify spending the money
<v Speaker 1>on this. It does like have softer image quality, pop
<v Speaker 1>in occasional drops under thirty frames per second in busy areas.
<v Speaker 1>So it's not like, oh, you're going to get the
<v Speaker 1>same experience that you had on PS five. But if
<v Speaker 1>you like playing RPGs on your switch to it is
<v Speaker 1>good enough.
<v Speaker 2>You're not in your head. Have you played this at all?
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, yeah, So I actually went to Square Next
<v Speaker 3>a couple of weeks ago for secret things and this
<v Speaker 3>was one of them.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.
<v Speaker 3>I got to play it in handheld mode for like
<v Speaker 3>a half hour, and yeah, pretty much everything everyone on
<v Speaker 3>the internet is saying is true. It was like locked
<v Speaker 3>to thirty fps. There wasn't much latency issues, Like I
<v Speaker 3>made it a point to go play combat that they
<v Speaker 3>were like, here, just stay in town and play queens.
<v Speaker 2>Blod.
<v Speaker 3>I was like, that's cool. That's not the chunk of
<v Speaker 3>this game. So yeah, and it felt good, It was fluid,
<v Speaker 3>it was extremely responsive. Just yeah that just you know,
<v Speaker 3>it looks like what you think Rebirth would look like
<v Speaker 3>on switch to. But the fact that it runs as
<v Speaker 3>smoothly as it does at you know, this low frame rate,
<v Speaker 3>it still is pretty impressive. I did not get to
<v Speaker 3>play a doct but I imagined it'll be similar to this. Yeah,
<v Speaker 3>but if this is your only way to play it,
<v Speaker 3>then go for it.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.
<v Speaker 3>Having it on the ghost pretty cool.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean having RPGs on the switch to.
<v Speaker 1>I mean there's a reason why that just sounds nice
<v Speaker 1>to a lot of people that people like to play
<v Speaker 1>in bed, like chill out, make it their nighttime game,
<v Speaker 1>And it does sound like this is going to serve
<v Speaker 1>that purpose. I Rebirth was never made with a handheld
<v Speaker 1>device in mind. It was specifically made for the PS five.
<v Speaker 1>My guess here would be that for the third game,
<v Speaker 1>which we'll talk about here in a second, but for
<v Speaker 1>the third game, they will make it a little bit
<v Speaker 1>more with the switch to in mind. And I bet
<v Speaker 1>that game runs better on the switch to. You know,
<v Speaker 1>maybe not sixty frames per second, but I bet it'll
<v Speaker 1>run better on the switch to.
<v Speaker 2>Let's actually talk about it.
<v Speaker 1>Final Fantasy seven Remake Part three is quote on time
<v Speaker 1>and on schedule.
<v Speaker 2>This is for my Nintendo News.
<v Speaker 1>Comic book recently caught up with Final Fantasy seven Remix
<v Speaker 1>series director Neioki Hamaguchi to ask him a number of questions,
<v Speaker 1>including how about how development on the eagerly anticipated Final
<v Speaker 1>Fantasy seven Remake Part three is proceeding. I'm acucci said
<v Speaker 1>the development for the third title is actually both on
<v Speaker 1>time and on schedule, meaning that everything is currently going
<v Speaker 1>as planned.
<v Speaker 2>Here's like the quote here from the interview.
<v Speaker 1>I'm unable to share concrete details at this time. What
<v Speaker 1>I can say is that development itself is proceeding on
<v Speaker 1>time and on schedule. We believe it will become a
<v Speaker 1>title we can deliver with confidence as the culmination of
<v Speaker 1>the trilogy. We know many fans are eagerly anticipating, and
<v Speaker 1>preparations towards the announcement are steadily underway. Please look forward
<v Speaker 1>to it just a little longer. When do you think
<v Speaker 1>we hear about this game? Well, when do we get
<v Speaker 1>the name?
<v Speaker 2>The release date?
<v Speaker 3>What do you think I think we hear about it
<v Speaker 3>within the year and then release date maybe within the
<v Speaker 3>next two to three. Part of my visit to Squaren Ennis,
<v Speaker 3>I have the same interview with mister Hamocucci as well.
<v Speaker 3>It was just over email, so I didn't get to
<v Speaker 3>actually sit down and chat with him, but I did
<v Speaker 3>actually ask him about the third game on switch to
<v Speaker 3>and is the same kind of response here, no plans,
<v Speaker 3>but development is chugging along. So uh yeah, sorry, I
<v Speaker 3>think within the year, maybe even closer, we'll we'll get
<v Speaker 3>the name maybe SGF who knows.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, as chief's on the table, you think like it's
<v Speaker 1>not a guarantee, but like that's a possibility.
<v Speaker 3>Uh possibility, but not super probable.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah right, okay, okay, yes, yeah, I think that's kind
<v Speaker 1>of the temperature I take away from this is uh yeah, look,
<v Speaker 1>it's it's chuggong. It's on schedule and steadily working toward announcements,
<v Speaker 1>is how he's framing it. Yeah, they're steadily underway towards
<v Speaker 1>the planning of announcements.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>That to me, that sounds like right, yeah, everything's on schedule.
<v Speaker 1>It takes time to do these things, no rush because
<v Speaker 1>we were not behind, so like we can keep going
<v Speaker 1>at this pace, and yeah, that says to me, and
<v Speaker 1>maybe before the end of this year, but not anytime
<v Speaker 1>super soon, and SGF is super soon at this point,
<v Speaker 1>We're a month away basically, so.
<v Speaker 3>And I'm happy away for this game. It's okay, you guys,
<v Speaker 3>take as long as you need. I'll play it when
<v Speaker 3>it's ready.
<v Speaker 2>Yep.
<v Speaker 3>You know.
<v Speaker 1>I do think that them setting the table with these
<v Speaker 1>ports and kind of reminding people that are like, oh,
<v Speaker 1>we have shifted the strategy of Final Fantasy seven Remix
<v Speaker 1>happening on PlayStation first and only, so like these other
<v Speaker 1>platforms are not just an option, but they are going
<v Speaker 1>to maybe be right there day one, possibly at least
<v Speaker 1>as a possibility. They're setting the table, and once this
<v Speaker 1>is out there and people are playing it, this being
<v Speaker 1>Final Fantasy seven Rebirth, I think they're like, Okay, now
<v Speaker 1>now we can kind of really think about it's time
<v Speaker 1>to start talking about this game.
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I think it could happen soonish, so we'll see.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, do you think this could be a launch game
<v Speaker 3>with PlayStation six or that window of time.
<v Speaker 1>That's not awesome, that's also not off the table, but
<v Speaker 1>PlayStation six feels like it's moving from I do not
<v Speaker 1>think they're going to want to tie it to PlayStation six.
<v Speaker 1>I think they will be happy to be like, do
<v Speaker 1>a re release in that moment of here is the
<v Speaker 1>integrate Is that what they did with the first one?
<v Speaker 1>With the Integrade version of Final Fantasy seven Remake Part three,
<v Speaker 1>They're like, Okay, yeah, it's been out for a year
<v Speaker 1>of selling to the massive audience on all these other platforms,
<v Speaker 1>and now here it is at launch for PS six
<v Speaker 1>in its definitive version.
<v Speaker 2>That's how I would expect it to happen. What do
<v Speaker 2>you think?
<v Speaker 3>Pretty much agree? I think they want to try to well.
<v Speaker 3>I could possibly see it as like a dual launch
<v Speaker 3>as well, depending on when PlayStation six is out. But
<v Speaker 3>I think they've been reports that it could be what
<v Speaker 3>like twenty twenty nine or twenty thirty ish.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's it's moving around. Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>I think it was like, oh, it could be twenty
<v Speaker 1>twenty seven. It's like, well, no way that, but twenty
<v Speaker 1>twenty maybe, And that feels like to me, that sounds
<v Speaker 1>like twenty twenty nine.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, so yeah, I mean, if that's the case,
<v Speaker 3>I could see Remake Part three being a dual SKEWP.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think that they will be happy to play
<v Speaker 1>on the excitement of new hardware, no matter what that
<v Speaker 1>hardware is. But yeah, I think, like yet someone to
<v Speaker 1>Chat's saying, I do think they view the partnership between
<v Speaker 1>Final Fantasy seven Remix and PlayStation as sort of a misfire.
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if they would call it a straight
<v Speaker 1>up failure, but I think it's a misfire in that
<v Speaker 1>the game just didn't deliver as much as they were
<v Speaker 1>expecting it to. And I think they think locking it
<v Speaker 1>down to PlayStation is one of the reasons that that happened,
<v Speaker 1>and so not that they're going to like throw PlayStation
<v Speaker 1>out or something, but I think they want to re
<v Speaker 1>establish they're doing the work right now to re establish
<v Speaker 1>that this is a series and they're a company that
<v Speaker 1>puts games out everywhere, And I don't think they'll want
<v Speaker 1>to like even make a gesture toward, hey, you better
<v Speaker 1>have a PlayStation six to be able to play this.
<v Speaker 1>Obviously that won't be the case, but I don't even
<v Speaker 1>think they want to suggest that we'll see that.
<v Speaker 3>I wonder as well, and correct me if I'm wrong,
<v Speaker 3>but PlayStation moved away from PC ports right, So I
<v Speaker 3>wonder if in that time they'll kind of run that
<v Speaker 3>back and be like, well, actually we're going to bring
<v Speaker 3>our games to PC, which it's weird that they're not.
<v Speaker 3>It seems like money on the table.
<v Speaker 1>I mean definitely, I think that is something that flip
<v Speaker 1>flip flops a couple more times in lifetime.
<v Speaker 2>Yes.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they will strategically reverse decisions depending on which way
<v Speaker 1>the wind is blowing blowing. I think Matt Piscatella had
<v Speaker 1>a good skit about this to kind of put it
<v Speaker 1>into words what I was feeling.
<v Speaker 2>I'll paraphrase.
<v Speaker 1>He was saying, like, the companies began putting out their
<v Speaker 1>games on PC because the hardware, their hardware wasn't selling
<v Speaker 1>as much as they wanted it to. And then like,
<v Speaker 1>and now the hardware is not selling as much as
<v Speaker 1>they wanted it to, so they're returning back to exclusives.
<v Speaker 1>And it's like, oh, yeah, we're just in this circular
<v Speaker 1>reasoning where the grass is always greening a on the
<v Speaker 1>other side, and the companies are just changing things because
<v Speaker 1>they're hoping that's gonna like be it's gonna be different
<v Speaker 1>this time.
<v Speaker 2>It never worked for them, but it could work for us.
<v Speaker 1>And uh yeah, so we're going to keep going back
<v Speaker 1>and forth depending on new leadership, new executive sort of initiatives.
<v Speaker 1>And right now we're in the one where, like lock
<v Speaker 1>it back down, we got to sell PlayStations and that
<v Speaker 1>won't last forever.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, definitely not, especially with the price sykes.
<v Speaker 1>So oh exactly, all right, next story here, Mortal Kombat
<v Speaker 1>Legacy Collection cross play with a k update now available.
<v Speaker 1>Atari and Digital Clips pushed a major update, adding crossplay,
<v Speaker 1>new online modes, two on two online combat, and select
<v Speaker 1>games v are our support on several platforms, and multiple fixes.
<v Speaker 1>Digital Clips does say that these are the final major
<v Speaker 1>features currently planned, although it does seem like this answers
<v Speaker 1>a lot of the problems that people had early on.
<v Speaker 2>They had some emulation issues that were causing some headaches.
<v Speaker 1>They seemed to spruce those up pretty quickly, and then
<v Speaker 1>they followed up with this cross play, which is oh,
<v Speaker 1>oh yeah, okay, and maybe this game will now be
<v Speaker 1>worth it for some people. I you know, including this
<v Speaker 1>because I do like this collection. It was we had
<v Speaker 1>a lot of fun with it on PC. They did
<v Speaker 1>a really good job of presenting the history of those
<v Speaker 1>games in an amazing way and then the story was
<v Speaker 1>a little bit like, hey, this is just not the
<v Speaker 1>best way to play these games. And now that has
<v Speaker 1>shifted in a time when the game could maybe frequently
<v Speaker 1>be on sale, and so I wonder if like this, oh,
<v Speaker 1>this is another opportunity for this game to do.
<v Speaker 2>Well, what do you think?
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think you nailed it. And yeah, it's it's
<v Speaker 3>a really fun collection if you like grew up with
<v Speaker 3>these games, like the documentary was awesome, But if you're
<v Speaker 3>like a like a diehard FGC guy, I'm not so.
<v Speaker 3>I was just like, cool, I want to play these games,
<v Speaker 3>I you know, started with as a kid.
<v Speaker 2>It's great.
<v Speaker 3>The fact that they're adding a cross play and just
<v Speaker 3>like bumping up the performance is great for the people
<v Speaker 3>who do like to play like that. And yeah, tying
<v Speaker 3>these updates into a more I don't want to use
<v Speaker 3>the word playable, but more like cohesive you know version
<v Speaker 3>of the game with it always being on sale like that,
<v Speaker 3>that seems like a good strategy. I guess.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm glad that companies like Digital Eclipse and
<v Speaker 1>Atari do think it's worth it to like keep updating
<v Speaker 1>these things to get him into the best position possible
<v Speaker 1>it's not just like hit him with the big splashyet
<v Speaker 1>here it is all these old game games you remember,
<v Speaker 1>take it or leave it. They seem to take that
<v Speaker 1>responsibility of preserving these games in the best possible way
<v Speaker 1>pretty seriously. And I'm glad that like it seems at
<v Speaker 1>least to me, based on them doing it repeatedly, that
<v Speaker 1>the business case pans out that that they this is
<v Speaker 1>a return on it. They will see a return on
<v Speaker 1>investment on this work because people go, oh, the problems
<v Speaker 1>that people were having have been solved.
<v Speaker 2>Now I'll drop my money.
<v Speaker 1>And I get encouraged because I think they're going to
<v Speaker 1>keep doing a lot of these of these collections, and
<v Speaker 1>even when it's a collection of bad games, and even
<v Speaker 1>when it's a collection that doesn't have the incredible, uh,
<v Speaker 1>the incredible documentary stuff that makes the price of admission
<v Speaker 1>worth it on its own, Like who, honestly, who cares
<v Speaker 1>how the game is run?
<v Speaker 2>You got to play this game for the documentary.
<v Speaker 1>But people care and they should, uh, And so yeah,
<v Speaker 1>at them getting that stuff fixed up, I think speaks
<v Speaker 1>volumes of Oh, this is maybe Atari Atari's core business
<v Speaker 1>going forward. They've made some other recent acquisitions in a
<v Speaker 1>studio that does the focuses on PlayStation one ports of
<v Speaker 1>like updating those ports and making sure they're running well
<v Speaker 1>on PC and a bunch of other platforms. And that's
<v Speaker 1>in addition to Night Dive and all these other Limited
<v Speaker 1>run do they own Limited Run They own a bunch
<v Speaker 1>of different versions of these Hey, let's take old games
<v Speaker 1>and repackage them, and they're they're taking it seriously and
<v Speaker 1>doing it as best as they possibly can. And it's
<v Speaker 1>like I want that to continue because that, like it
<v Speaker 1>does sort of refertilize excitement about these old games. We'll
<v Speaker 1>talk about another collection here before we're done, where it's like, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I want it even if it's a bunch of bad games,
<v Speaker 1>because I have some nostalgia for them, and I want
<v Speaker 1>a studio that has the right amount of respect for
<v Speaker 1>that stuff to be in charge of it. And that's
<v Speaker 1>certainly the case with everyone under the Atari umbrellas. So yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I think I take this as a good sign that
<v Speaker 1>we're going to keep getting these in a good state.
<v Speaker 2>Agreed.
<v Speaker 3>And I'm such a mark for like big box like
<v Speaker 3>collector stuff like this for like a reasonable price, especially
<v Speaker 3>if it's like yeah, retro games, I love. So yeah,
<v Speaker 3>I personally, as a consumer, I would love to see
<v Speaker 3>more than you.
<v Speaker 1>All Right, we'll talk about that other collection here in
<v Speaker 1>a moment. Let's get to Witcher three veterans share Blood
<v Speaker 1>of the don Walker gameplay and set a release. This
<v Speaker 1>is from Andy Robinson at VGC. Rebel Wolves and Vandy
<v Speaker 1>Napco have shared a new gameplay, presentation and story trailer
<v Speaker 1>for the Blood of the don Walker, a new RPG
<v Speaker 1>from a group of former Witcher three veterans. A reminder,
<v Speaker 1>this is what if Witcher three veterans made a vampire
<v Speaker 1>RPG with a hard narrative clock and a day night duality.
<v Speaker 2>There's this idea of.
<v Speaker 1>You're a human during the day and a vampire at night,
<v Speaker 1>and then there's a huge heavy choice and consequences system.
<v Speaker 1>So they're really going all out with the RPG side
<v Speaker 1>of this. It sounds pretty cool. There was early talks
<v Speaker 1>for this game of like a thirty day calendar, but
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't sound like it's as sort of hard and
<v Speaker 1>fast as the Major's Mask was, where it's like if
<v Speaker 1>you didn't beat it in three days, you fail. It's
<v Speaker 1>like this is more about creating a little bit of
<v Speaker 1>extra pressure so that interesting things happen because you're rushing
<v Speaker 1>things or whatever and just adding some more fuel to
<v Speaker 1>the storytelling fire. I'm excited about this. I like the
<v Speaker 1>idea of just vampire gameplay mechanics is such a fun
<v Speaker 1>playground that I don't think we've done enough with and
<v Speaker 1>the people who kind of learned a lot from which
<v Speaker 1>are three applying those lessons to this concept.
<v Speaker 2>I'm all into it and it looks pretty good. What
<v Speaker 2>do you think? Yeah?
<v Speaker 3>I kind of liking it to something like persona metaphor
<v Speaker 3>stuff like that, with that in game calendar, but with
<v Speaker 3>like a gothic horror ish vibe, like that's that speaks
<v Speaker 3>to me in ways that I really never knew. And yeah,
<v Speaker 3>it's coming out September, so yeah, we don't have to
<v Speaker 3>wait much much longer. I'm personally really excited for this.
<v Speaker 3>I have this on Fantasy Critics, so hell yeah, I
<v Speaker 3>hope it's good. And yeah, they had something at packs West.
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if they did any hands on, but
<v Speaker 3>they had like a booth just kind of with like
<v Speaker 3>a opportunity, so you know, they started marketing it months ago,
<v Speaker 3>even over a year ago, maybe, So the September date
<v Speaker 3>is a little shocking based on how.
<v Speaker 2>You're right, I didn't say that September third.
<v Speaker 3>I keep going though, Yeah, yeah, the September day is
<v Speaker 3>a little shocking just based on how early it started
<v Speaker 3>marketing it. But I mean, yeah, this this game is
<v Speaker 3>one of my most anticipated for twenty twenty six, and
<v Speaker 3>miaues out of for it.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, I like, I'm not gonna set my
<v Speaker 1>expectations like through the Roof, but like it's a solid, fun,
<v Speaker 1>good game that has issues.
<v Speaker 2>Man, I'll take that. If it's got all these interesting
<v Speaker 2>systems happening here, and.
<v Speaker 3>If it's not like one hundred hours too that that
<v Speaker 3>that would be pretty cool.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that would hit. That would hit, and then you
<v Speaker 2>know it is. It is that team from Whicher three.
<v Speaker 1>At least some of the people there that one of
<v Speaker 1>the lessons they did learn is just keep updating the thing,
<v Speaker 1>updating the thing forever, and it will like, it'll renew
<v Speaker 1>its interest among the fan base and it will keep selling. Obviously,
<v Speaker 1>Witch Youer three is a little bit of a unicorn
<v Speaker 1>when it comes to that. But I don't think that
<v Speaker 1>means don't learn that lesson. I think it means try
<v Speaker 1>to get to that place where this game is also
<v Speaker 1>beloved in that way and remind the fan base if
<v Speaker 1>there's anything you like here, we're going to keep making
<v Speaker 1>that better, and if there's anything you don't like, we're
<v Speaker 1>going to work to fix that. And I think that
<v Speaker 1>this game comes out and it's got just some decent ideas,
<v Speaker 1>that'll be a really good start. And that's where I'm
<v Speaker 1>at with games like this right now, where any studio
<v Speaker 1>trying to make a new IP outside of a very
<v Speaker 1>very large studio structure or large publisher structure, it just
<v Speaker 1>gets something out the first time that shows off the
<v Speaker 1>strength of the ideas, and then if it does okay,
<v Speaker 1>followed up with a sequel where you already have all
<v Speaker 1>the tools and processes in place to be like, Okay,
<v Speaker 1>now we know what we're doing, let's really hit the
<v Speaker 1>home run.
<v Speaker 2>With the next game.
<v Speaker 1>And I would imagine that the or at this point,
<v Speaker 1>maybe with this game it's not with the next game,
<v Speaker 1>but with several updates and get it to a point
<v Speaker 1>where it becomes a beloved game totally.
<v Speaker 2>Done.
<v Speaker 1>Quick is coming to Europe for the first time with
<v Speaker 1>three days of games Com speed runs. This is from
<v Speaker 1>Andy Robinson at VGC charity games speed running event Games
<v Speaker 1>Done Quick is coming to Europe for the first time
<v Speaker 1>thanks to a collaboration with games Com. Games Com GDQ
<v Speaker 1>will take place during this year's Expo, which is held
<v Speaker 1>annually in Cologne, Germany, for three days of live programming,
<v Speaker 1>which will also be streamed to Twitch and YouTube. As
<v Speaker 1>with previous GDQ events, games Com GDQ will showcase a
<v Speaker 1>curated lineup of speed runs performed by top players from
<v Speaker 1>around the world. This is the expansion of GDQ continues.
<v Speaker 2>To be a great thing.
<v Speaker 1>They are they did some stuff at PAS doing stuff
<v Speaker 1>with games Com. It's like, oh yeah, that is a
<v Speaker 1>real strong way to sort of expand the brand and
<v Speaker 1>to bring even more excitement to this excellent fundraising mechanism.
<v Speaker 1>You know, there are there two solo, big standalone events
<v Speaker 1>of Games Done Quick and Summer Games Done Quick.
<v Speaker 2>Are awesome Games Done Quick and Summer Games Done Quick.
<v Speaker 1>And it was like, oh yeah, they could keep adding
<v Speaker 1>other stuff to the calendar, but does that take away
<v Speaker 1>from those bigger events. Maybe maybe not, but it's like,
<v Speaker 1>oh no, actually, just go to where where people already
<v Speaker 1>are in this space and bring some of that GDQ
<v Speaker 1>magic and kind of like you know, it's two flavors
<v Speaker 1>to go great together, right, I'm I'm all in favor
<v Speaker 1>of this.
<v Speaker 2>What do you think?
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, same exactly. This is like all positive, just
<v Speaker 3>more opportunity to raise millions of dollars for good causes,
<v Speaker 3>is you know? That's never a bad thing, And just
<v Speaker 3>in terms of building a community. You know, there's people
<v Speaker 3>who are probably fans of UH Game's done quick overseas
<v Speaker 3>who've never really had a chance to attend live and
<v Speaker 3>so this gives them the opportunity as well. Is it
<v Speaker 3>just games common Germany or are they doing latam as well?
<v Speaker 3>Where it's it's still a great, great thing.
<v Speaker 2>I bet there's like one leads to the other.
<v Speaker 1>But I don't think there's any announcement regarded to the
<v Speaker 1>Latin American one, which is going to be in it's
<v Speaker 1>in Brazil here in.
<v Speaker 2>A little bit, right, it's actually I think actually think
<v Speaker 2>it's I think it's the next week.
<v Speaker 1>Actually, oh well yeah, so so probably not. But I
<v Speaker 1>bet if this does well, that's always something that could happen.
<v Speaker 1>There's a ton of speed runners in South America that
<v Speaker 1>would be that would be awesome to see. Okay, last
<v Speaker 1>couple of stories here. A six game collection of retro
<v Speaker 1>rug Rats titles is coming next month. This is from
<v Speaker 1>Chris Scullying at VGC. A six game compilation of retro
<v Speaker 1>games based on Rugrats is coming next month. Rugrats Retro
<v Speaker 1>rewind Collection, which I'm going to struggle to say I
<v Speaker 1>think every time too many Ours, is being released on
<v Speaker 1>PS five and Nintendo Switched by Limited Run, with a
<v Speaker 1>digital release coming on May fifteenth. Pre Orders are also
<v Speaker 1>being taken for a physical edition, with the pre order
<v Speaker 1>period running from May first through May thirty first. The
<v Speaker 1>compilation contains Rugrats Search for Reptar for PS one, the
<v Speaker 1>Rugrats Movie for game Boy, the Rugrats Movie for Game
<v Speaker 1>Boy Color, Rugrats Time Travelers for Game Boy Color, Rugrats
<v Speaker 1>a Studio Tour for PS one, Rugrats in Paris the
<v Speaker 1>Movie for PS one and game Boy Color, and Rugrats
<v Speaker 1>Castle Capers.
<v Speaker 2>For Game Boy Advance.
<v Speaker 1>According to Limited Run, each game will have a number
<v Speaker 1>of options typical in emulated collections, such as screen filters,
<v Speaker 1>safe states in a rewind feature, as well as a
<v Speaker 1>music player. You know, these licensed game collections have become
<v Speaker 1>more and more frequent have been coming up more and
<v Speaker 1>more frequently. The last one that kind of hit was that,
<v Speaker 1>the the rin and Stimpy one. It's like, man, those
<v Speaker 1>games are famously bad, and yet I I love this.
<v Speaker 1>And right now, Miles, I'm going through a bunch of
<v Speaker 1>old Simpsons games and it's like, so many of these
<v Speaker 1>are utter trash, and yet they're so interesting that I'm like,
<v Speaker 1>I hope we get a collection just like one of these.
<v Speaker 1>And Ruggrats is definitely one of those ones where, like you,
<v Speaker 1>if you were a kid at a certain period of
<v Speaker 1>time and you had a Game Boy, you had a
<v Speaker 1>Game Boy mats, you had a PlayStation one, you probably
<v Speaker 1>had a Rugrats game.
<v Speaker 2>Right. Yeah.
<v Speaker 3>I was gonna say, like if you had if you
<v Speaker 3>were raised on a PS one, odds are you had?
<v Speaker 3>I had it. I know a lot of my friends.
<v Speaker 3>I don't know why that happened, But this is one
<v Speaker 3>of those collections where it's like, like you said, the
<v Speaker 3>games aren't you know, necessarily the best games are around,
<v Speaker 3>but it might be one of those collections where you
<v Speaker 3>buy it just for the modernized version of Regrets in Paris.
<v Speaker 3>Excuse me what there? It is similar to like marvel
<v Speaker 3>bris capcom collection where you just bought it for Marvels
<v Speaker 3>Fris Capcom two. But yeah, I mean having the chance
<v Speaker 3>to just at least check them out if you're in
<v Speaker 3>intention is only to buy it for just that one game. Sure,
<v Speaker 3>why not?
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's uh, you know going through those old Simpsons games, Uh,
<v Speaker 1>it is something I'm noticing where it's like I almost
<v Speaker 1>like to see how they're bad now, because there was
<v Speaker 1>that one period in like nineteen ninety one where there
<v Speaker 1>were four Simpsons games all just coming out back to
<v Speaker 1>back to back, and some of them are like way
<v Speaker 1>more famous than others for sure, and it's like, oh man,
<v Speaker 1>what is this game boy one that I haven't really
<v Speaker 1>ever seen anyone.
<v Speaker 2>Talk about before?
<v Speaker 1>And you go in there, it's like, Okay, this is
<v Speaker 1>a little bit better than Bart's Bart's Nightmare or whatever,
<v Speaker 1>or Bart versus the Space Mutants, but you could see
<v Speaker 1>the DNA.
<v Speaker 2>Oh so this is the same development studio. What lessons
<v Speaker 2>did they learn?
<v Speaker 1>And it's like they learned to just kind of make
<v Speaker 1>it even cheaper or whatever and then make it look
<v Speaker 1>a little bit more like the Simpsons. And I like
<v Speaker 1>seeing that progression now. That is it's an academic curiosity,
<v Speaker 1>which is how I would approach any one of these
<v Speaker 1>collections like knowing a lot of these games are going
<v Speaker 1>to be trash, but I don't know. I have a
<v Speaker 1>real soft spot for trash at this point in my life,
<v Speaker 1>miles after so much time playing bad games on like
<v Speaker 1>light Club, that I kind of want to see more
<v Speaker 1>and more of these exact kind of collections. Licensed games
<v Speaker 1>are licensed games are It's had such a sordid history.
<v Speaker 1>There was a time where you could just guarantee it's
<v Speaker 1>going to be bad if it's licensed. That's changed a lot,
<v Speaker 1>although it's mostly changed in that they just stopped making
<v Speaker 1>them for the most.
<v Speaker 2>Part, not across the board, but for the most part.
<v Speaker 1>All right, last story here, Digital Bros Acquire wu Chong
<v Speaker 1>Fallen Feathers IP. This is from Sal Ramano at Kamatsu
<v Speaker 1>five oh five Games. Parent company Digital Bros. Is entered
<v Speaker 1>into an agreement with Chinese developer lind Zi Games to
<v Speaker 1>acquire the intellectual property rights for Wuchong Fallen Feathers. The
<v Speaker 1>company has announced five O five games published that Lindsay
<v Speaker 1>made the game, and you know, Digital Bros Is the
<v Speaker 1>parent company for the whole operation. Wuchong sold like a
<v Speaker 1>million copies. It did pretty well. So my reading here
<v Speaker 1>is is this a situation where publishers are going to
<v Speaker 1>be doing a thing where they'll let an independent studio
<v Speaker 1>or a studio from from Asia that they want to
<v Speaker 1>partner with do the brunt of the work to create
<v Speaker 1>something new, and if it hits, then they're like, Okay,
<v Speaker 1>we found a winner. Let's go and invest in it
<v Speaker 1>at this point because it has guaranteed name recognition and
<v Speaker 1>will sort of this will be like one of the
<v Speaker 1>things that we now treat as one of our primary
<v Speaker 1>properties going forward, sort of doing a backward research and
<v Speaker 1>development of like what can succeed and being like you
<v Speaker 1>guys take on the brunt of the risk. We'll step
<v Speaker 1>in and help a little bit, but if it works,
<v Speaker 1>we'll buy it from you and run it forward. Do
<v Speaker 1>you think that's what kind of happened here?
<v Speaker 3>Maybe actually yeah, yeah. And I will wonder if, like
<v Speaker 3>if like I don't know if they've announced any other
<v Speaker 3>games in this IP, but I wonder if, like, like
<v Speaker 3>you said, if they had and they make a stinker
<v Speaker 3>and it doesn't perform well, both you know, financially and critically,
<v Speaker 3>if this is one of the things where we own
<v Speaker 3>it but it didn't do well, So now we're just
<v Speaker 3>not gonna make it anymore. It's kind of that's the
<v Speaker 3>read I get. Just I don't know, maybe that's pessimistic, but.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm kind of I understand.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And it's like I wonder, like, does Lindsay Games
<v Speaker 1>be like okay and we'll we'll make the next one,
<v Speaker 1>or do they sort of find a different studio to
<v Speaker 1>take it on. Yeah, it's it's it is. It's a
<v Speaker 1>little bit weird. We haven't seen this a ton, but
<v Speaker 1>I wonder if it's a situation where it's like the
<v Speaker 1>game did pretty well, but in order to like sort
<v Speaker 1>of get everyone involved to feel happy about continuing down
<v Speaker 1>the path of maybe making sequels, Di Joe bros Is like, well,
<v Speaker 1>we need more ownership. And yeah, it's a much more
<v Speaker 1>cynical version of this where it's okay, they want to
<v Speaker 1>have they want to have a bigger piece of the pie,
<v Speaker 1>which would be unfortunate because like they yeah, sure they
<v Speaker 1>provided some of the support to get this game out,
<v Speaker 1>but again they're not the ones that like did the
<v Speaker 1>real work to make the thing have value in the
<v Speaker 1>first place. And the people who did have sold the
<v Speaker 1>rights now hopefully they got handsomely rewarded that that would
<v Speaker 1>be the idea here, but we'll see. I don't do
<v Speaker 1>you do you expect them to follow up with it
<v Speaker 1>just a straight up sequel, because that's what this kind
<v Speaker 1>of suggests to me.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's what I'm kind of thinking, and I believe. Yeah,
<v Speaker 3>it's a Chinese developer and it's based on like Chinese
<v Speaker 3>myth if I'm not mistaken. I haven't played it, but
<v Speaker 3>I've seen, like, you know, stuff about it. I wonder
<v Speaker 3>if it's one of those things, if they follow up
<v Speaker 3>or they just only release it in the Chinese market,
<v Speaker 3>which would would be big enough on its own.
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, absolutely maybe.
<v Speaker 1>All right, we'll see, we'll follow up if anything does
<v Speaker 1>break there that was going to do it for the
<v Speaker 1>headlines everybody. We do have a poll up question for
<v Speaker 1>Monday that we should get to. Let's go hop over there.
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to refresh to make sure I have the
<v Speaker 1>most recent results. Have you played Alien Isolation? Forty six
<v Speaker 1>percent of people said yes, fifty four percent said no.
<v Speaker 1>That's on four thousand votes, so pretty good sample size there.
<v Speaker 1>This is one of those games where now that a
<v Speaker 1>sequel's coming, will I think what happens, especially in the
<v Speaker 1>horror game Space miles Is. People like the idea of
<v Speaker 1>new games in that genre, but they also like the
<v Speaker 1>idea of like spending their like investing their time on
<v Speaker 1>something that will continue to pay off as new games
<v Speaker 1>come out. That's one of the reasons Resident Evil is
<v Speaker 1>continues to grow. I think, in my opinion, is that
<v Speaker 1>people know if they spend their time on one of
<v Speaker 1>those games, they're going to get more resident eval in
<v Speaker 1>the future because Capcom is not going to stop making them.
<v Speaker 1>And then there's this huge library of games that exists
<v Speaker 1>from you know, the before times and then all these remakes.
<v Speaker 1>It's like there's just this abundance and so anytime you
<v Speaker 1>invest in there is going to pay off, and I
<v Speaker 1>think people like that idea a lot. So now that
<v Speaker 1>we know an Alien Isolation too is happening, I think
<v Speaker 1>it's like the time is ripe for people to rediscover
<v Speaker 1>this game. And so forty six percent people already having
<v Speaker 1>played it. That's a huge number, but there's a lot
<v Speaker 1>of people in the rest of that audience that will
<v Speaker 1>check this game out.
<v Speaker 3>What do you think, Yeah, that doesn't act great and
<v Speaker 3>it's always on sale, and like Steam and pretty much
<v Speaker 3>any other good Point to or Front as well, And
<v Speaker 3>if I remember correctly, when it first came out, it
<v Speaker 3>didn't get the best reviews of it. After time, it
<v Speaker 3>like became kind of generally accepted as one of the
<v Speaker 3>best war games of all time.
<v Speaker 2>Oh classic.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I love horror games. I actually haven't played this yet,
<v Speaker 3>which is like one of my biggest woes. But yeah,
<v Speaker 3>now that part two is coming out, this this is
<v Speaker 3>one I'm definitely gonna play before I have a chance
<v Speaker 3>to play the next one. Yeah, I'm stoked for it.
<v Speaker 1>Excellent sor right, We have a new poll question that
<v Speaker 1>we'll get to here in a second. Before we do that, though, Miles,
<v Speaker 1>whyn't you tell people where they can find you on
<v Speaker 1>the internet, what you have going on and all that
<v Speaker 1>good stuff.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so I'm mostly on Blue Sky at Miles of Benza.
<v Speaker 3>That's Miles with a why what do I have going on?
<v Speaker 3>I'm freelancing everywhere. I have a couple of big cool
<v Speaker 3>things coming out on Kotaku tomorrow morning. And then yeah,
<v Speaker 3>if you're going to Magic Con in Vegas this weekend,
<v Speaker 3>I'll be there. A lot of games media folks will
<v Speaker 3>be there, So say, hif if you'd like I'll be
<v Speaker 3>around SGF. I'll be at San Diego Comic Con. Probably
<v Speaker 3>we'll be at Anime Expo too. It's uh, that's up
<v Speaker 3>in the air, but yeah, I go to pretty much
<v Speaker 3>every show on the West Coast because I am bad
<v Speaker 3>with money.
<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm sure people love to see you there.
<v Speaker 1>Definitely, everyone should say hi if they see you, and yes,
<v Speaker 1>stay busy man, that's awesome. Yeah, all right, it's new
<v Speaker 1>poll question. Are you getting Final Fantasy seven rebirth on?
<v Speaker 1>Switch to yes, sir no, just kind of want to
<v Speaker 1>listen to other type ticking the temperature, y'all, Like, let's
<v Speaker 1>see what people are thinking. Have you been waiting on
<v Speaker 1>this game? And now this is a good opportunity to
<v Speaker 1>hop on. That pole is up there right now. If
<v Speaker 1>you go to YouTube dot com slash at Giant Bomb
<v Speaker 1>the post tab, you can find it there. We often
<v Speaker 1>post stuff on there about what's happening on the site.
<v Speaker 1>But the poles go up there each and every or
<v Speaker 1>after each and every Game Mess Mornings, and you can
<v Speaker 1>go vote right now. We'll get the results and talk
<v Speaker 1>about it here on Game Mess Mornings here on Giant Bomb.
<v Speaker 1>Speaking of Giant Bomb, it's happening today. It's Wednesday, so
<v Speaker 1>we got some other stuff cooking. But yeah, it's time
<v Speaker 1>to get back to the Blake Club everybody. Dan's going
<v Speaker 1>to be continuing Space Ace for Super Nintendo just forty
<v Speaker 1>minutes left. Look, I think there is a possibility that
<v Speaker 1>he beats that game today. I think it's probably more
<v Speaker 1>likely that he kind of sees what is like everything
<v Speaker 1>that is in front of him, and then he puts
<v Speaker 1>together the run next week. But man, this is you
<v Speaker 1>do not want to miss this for people who have
<v Speaker 1>been asking for Mike or for Mike to give Dan
<v Speaker 1>his come up. And it's happened, and you can watch
<v Speaker 1>it every week on Blake Club, including today's episode.
<v Speaker 2>All right, let's see here. Anything else that we have
<v Speaker 2>happened worth mentioning?
<v Speaker 1>There was new Portal Pals. People should go check that
<v Speaker 1>out if you're a premium member. If you're not going
<v Speaker 1>to make it happen, excellent. All right, myles, thank you
<v Speaker 1>so much for hanging out with me today and talking
<v Speaker 1>about video games.
<v Speaker 2>Man, I really appreciate it.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, thank you for having me. This was a ton
<v Speaker 3>of fun. I would I would love to come back.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah we will, We will make it happen. Again you're right,
<v Speaker 1>that was fun, great conversations. Really appreciate it. Man, Thank
<v Speaker 1>you all for watching and listening. You're the best audience
<v Speaker 1>in gaming. Until next time, have a good one, take
<v Speaker 1>care of yourself and goodbye.