Trump, Putin Talk Ukraine; Treasury Secretary Calls Stock Slump 'Healthy'

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1) President Donald Trump said he’ll speak with Russian President Vladimir Putin on Tuesday as the US presses for an end to fighting in Ukraine and European nations rush to bolster their support for Kyiv.
“We are doing pretty well I think with Russia,” Trump told reporters aboard Air Force One on Sunday. “We’ll see if we have something to announce maybe by Tuesday,” he said, adding that there is “a very good chance” for a deal. 
The Trump administration has pushed for a ceasefire between Russia and Ukraine amid a flurry of renewed engagement between Washington and Moscow, three years after Russia’s full-scale invasion. Yet that effort has sparked angst among European leaders who worry Trump may concede too much on Ukraine’s behalf in a direct exchange with Putin and leave Kyiv without any longer-term security guarantees.   


2) Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent, a former hedge fund manager, said he’s not worried about the recent downturn that’s wiped trillions of dollars from the equities market as the US seeks to reshape its economic policies. 
“I’ve been in the investment business for 35 years, and I can tell you that corrections are healthy, they are normal,” Bessent said Sunday on NBC’s Meet The Press. “I‘m not worried about the markets. Over the long term, if we put good tax policy in place, deregulation and energy security, the markets will do great.”   


3) The Trump administration said it arrested and expelled hundreds of alleged members of Venezuela’s Tren de Aragua gang to El Salvador for imprisonment, even as a federal judge ordered a halt to some deportations.
“This weekend, at the President’s direction, the Department of Homeland Security successfully arrested nearly 300 Tren De Aragua terrorists, saving countless American lives,” White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt said Sunday in a statement. “These heinous monsters were extracted and removed to El Salvador where they will no longer be able to pose any threat to the American People.”
The US is paying El Salvador to hold the Venezuelans under an agreement Secretary of State Marco Rubio brokered with the Central American country’s president, Nayib Bukele. Some 238 members of the gang were transferred to a terrorism confinement center, Bukele said on X. 

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Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, Radio News. 0:00:10.280 --> 0:00:10.840 Good morning. 0:00:10.880 --> 0:00:13.680 I'm Nathan Hager and I'm Karen Moscow. Here are the 0:00:13.720 --> 0:00:15.200 stories we're following today. 0:00:15.560 --> 0:00:18.280 Karen, we begin with the latest on the war in Ukraine. 0:00:18.360 --> 0:00:22.000 President Trump says he will speak to Russia's President, Vladimir 0:00:22.040 --> 0:00:25.880 Putin tomorrow. The talks come as European nations rush to 0:00:25.920 --> 0:00:29.200 bolster their support for Kiev. Trump spoke to reporters on 0:00:29.280 --> 0:00:29.920 Air Force one. 0:00:30.960 --> 0:00:35.360 Help me speaking to President Putin on Tuesday. A lot 0:00:35.360 --> 0:00:39.479 of a lot of worksmen done over the weekend. I 0:00:39.560 --> 0:00:41.000 want to see if we can bring that war to 0:00:41.040 --> 0:00:44.120 an end. Maybe we can, maybe we can't, but I 0:00:44.120 --> 0:00:45.280 think we have a murger chance. 0:00:45.640 --> 0:00:49.120 President Trump says his discussions with Russia's president will focus 0:00:49.159 --> 0:00:52.560 on territory, power plants and dividing up certain assets. 0:00:53.040 --> 0:00:55.520 On Nathan, oil is on the rise this morning. It's 0:00:55.560 --> 0:00:58.800 trading at sixty seven dollars seventy seven cents of barrel. 0:00:58.880 --> 0:01:02.240 Brent is at seventy one. That says Defense Secretary Pete 0:01:02.280 --> 0:01:05.679 Haigseth Warrens of unrelenting strikes on Hoo they militants and 0:01:05.800 --> 0:01:08.959 Yemen until the group stops attacking ships in the Red Sea. 0:01:09.319 --> 0:01:11.759 President Trump ordered a new wave of air strikes over 0:01:11.800 --> 0:01:14.839 the weekend. Hag Seth says, sends a clear message. 0:01:15.000 --> 0:01:16.360 President said it in his truth. 0:01:16.720 --> 0:01:17.800 Your support of. 0:01:17.760 --> 0:01:21.160 The Hoothies needs to hend end immediately. 0:01:21.680 --> 0:01:22.640 We will hold you. 0:01:22.560 --> 0:01:25.840 Accountable as the sponsor of this proxy, and I echo 0:01:25.920 --> 0:01:28.640 his statement, we will not be nice about it. This 0:01:28.760 --> 0:01:31.959 is not the Biden administration. The message is clear. We 0:01:32.080 --> 0:01:35.040 will come after the Houthis until they stop shooting in 0:01:35.120 --> 0:01:37.240 our ships, and the Iranians better stay out of it. 0:01:37.520 --> 0:01:41.280 Defense Secretary Pete Haigseth also tells Fox News that strikes 0:01:41.319 --> 0:01:43.960 are a warning to Iran, which backs the Hoothies. 0:01:44.160 --> 0:01:46.560 And over the weekend, Karen, the Trump administration set it 0:01:46.640 --> 0:01:50.920 arrested and expelled hundreds of alleged Venezuelan gang members. The 0:01:51.040 --> 0:01:53.840 US is paying El Salvador to hold them, despite a 0:01:53.880 --> 0:01:57.400 federal judge ordering a fourteen day hold on some deportations. 0:01:57.680 --> 0:02:00.520 President Trump defended the move last night on Air Force One. 0:02:01.640 --> 0:02:02.840 Andrew, when you. 0:02:02.800 --> 0:02:05.000 Look at him, when you look at them, the crimes 0:02:05.000 --> 0:02:08.239 and they have committed to take a look. You don't 0:02:08.240 --> 0:02:10.760 get any counfer, you don't get worse than that. You 0:02:10.919 --> 0:02:13.480 understand that would you'd have to ask theyers. 0:02:13.639 --> 0:02:16.840 Now, the President moved to accelerate deportations under seldom used 0:02:16.919 --> 0:02:19.760 powers in the Alien Enemies Act of seventeen ninety eight. 0:02:20.120 --> 0:02:23.600 The federal judge ordered any deportation flights carried out under 0:02:23.639 --> 0:02:26.160 Trump's order to be returned mid flight, but the White 0:02:26.160 --> 0:02:28.480 House says this flight did not conflict with that ruling 0:02:28.720 --> 0:02:30.480 because it had already left the country. 0:02:31.200 --> 0:02:34.000 Well, Nathan, President Trump maybe opening the door to new 0:02:34.040 --> 0:02:37.920 investigations at the committee that investigated the January sixth attack 0:02:38.000 --> 0:02:41.639 on the US Capitol. In a truth social post overnight, 0:02:41.720 --> 0:02:45.080 the President declared former President Joe Biden's pardons for the 0:02:45.080 --> 0:02:48.960 committee members Voyd, because he says Biden signed them with 0:02:49.040 --> 0:02:52.600 an auto pen. Still, the President admits the move might 0:02:52.639 --> 0:02:55.959 face legal action, but my decision that'll. 0:02:55.760 --> 0:02:58.600 Be up to accord. But I would say that, Danella, 0:02:58.919 --> 0:03:01.919 because I'm sure Biden have any idea that it was 0:03:02.000 --> 0:03:02.640 taking place. 0:03:03.040 --> 0:03:05.959 The President spoke on board Air Force one last night. 0:03:06.120 --> 0:03:08.760 Pardon power has long been considered one of the most 0:03:08.800 --> 0:03:12.720 absolute powers a president has. Last year, a federal appeals 0:03:12.720 --> 0:03:16.160 court found a pardon doesn't even have to be in writing. 0:03:16.120 --> 0:03:19.160 Certain of markets. Now, Karen futures are lower to start 0:03:19.200 --> 0:03:21.880 a new trading week. Despite Friday's rally on Wall Street, 0:03:21.919 --> 0:03:23.960 the S and P five hundred has now dropped for 0:03:24.000 --> 0:03:28.000 four straight weeks. Treasury Secretary Scott Besson's he says he's 0:03:28.040 --> 0:03:30.240 not concerned about the recent market downturn. 0:03:30.880 --> 0:03:33.600 I'm not worried about the markets over the long term. 0:03:33.840 --> 0:03:38.040 If we put good text policy in place, deregulation and 0:03:38.400 --> 0:03:41.560 energy security, the markets will do break. 0:03:42.160 --> 0:03:45.640 Treasury Secretary Scott Besson says corrections are healthy and normal. 0:03:45.680 --> 0:03:47.760 He spoke on NBC's Meet the Press, which can be 0:03:47.800 --> 0:03:49.400 heard Sundays on Bloomberg Radio. 0:03:49.800 --> 0:03:52.640 Well Nathan. All three major indexes hit six month lows 0:03:52.720 --> 0:03:56.000 during the last trading week. Matt Mayley, Chief market strategistic 0:03:56.080 --> 0:03:58.920 miller Taybac believes stocks are heading even lower. 0:03:59.120 --> 0:04:01.720 I do think that the the correction we've seen so 0:04:01.760 --> 0:04:04.240 far probably has further to run. I mean, we call 0:04:04.320 --> 0:04:06.040 for a correction at the very beginning of the year 0:04:06.080 --> 0:04:09.440 and saying we thought it would be something a deep 0:04:09.480 --> 0:04:12.560 one in the fifteen to twenty percent range. And we 0:04:12.600 --> 0:04:14.480 have to remember right now is what's going on with 0:04:14.600 --> 0:04:18.279 these tariffs and what's going on with the DOGE Committee. 0:04:18.279 --> 0:04:21.040 I mean that's certainly having a big impact in terms 0:04:21.040 --> 0:04:22.080 of uncertainty. 0:04:22.600 --> 0:04:25.039 Miller Tabacx mad Maine. Thanks the S and P, five 0:04:25.120 --> 0:04:27.640 hundred may fall as low as five thousand, about ten 0:04:27.720 --> 0:04:30.280 percent lower than current levels in Asia. 0:04:30.360 --> 0:04:34.480 Karen consumption, investment, and industrial production in China all exceeded 0:04:34.640 --> 0:04:37.800 estimates to start the year. Retail sales increased four percent 0:04:37.880 --> 0:04:40.240 in the first two months from a year earlier, industrial 0:04:40.320 --> 0:04:43.480 output rows five point nine percent. Growth in fixed asset 0:04:43.520 --> 0:04:47.080 investment picked up to four point one percent. Economists say 0:04:47.120 --> 0:04:49.719 the data point to resilience for a Chinese economy that 0:04:49.800 --> 0:04:52.560 is still in need of more stimulus as US tariffs 0:04:52.600 --> 0:04:53.840 threaten growth well. 0:04:53.920 --> 0:04:57.520 Nathan Warren Buffett is bullish on Japan. His Berkshire Hathaway 0:04:57.600 --> 0:05:01.200 is increasing its stake in Japan's biggest trading houses, which 0:05:01.200 --> 0:05:06.039 include Mitsubishi and Sumitomo. Last month, Buffett told shareholders and 0:05:06.080 --> 0:05:09.000 his annual letter that Berkshire was looking to increase ownership 0:05:09.279 --> 0:05:11.120 in the trading houses and back. 0:05:10.920 --> 0:05:13.760 Here in the US, Karen fashion retailer Forever twenty one 0:05:13.920 --> 0:05:17.320 is filing for bankruptcy. The brand once attracted droves of 0:05:17.360 --> 0:05:20.400 young women and girls to shop for cheap, trendy clothing. 0:05:20.680 --> 0:05:24.200 This is Forever twenty one's second stint with bankruptcy. At 0:05:24.200 --> 0:05:26.640 its height, it had more than five hundred locations in 0:05:26.640 --> 0:05:29.440 the US. It's down to about three hundred and fifty now. 0:05:30.080 --> 0:05:32.720 Finally, Nathan, those two astronauts who have been stuck in 0:05:32.760 --> 0:05:35.520 this space since this summer maybe home as early as 0:05:35.560 --> 0:05:40.200 tomorrow night. SpaceX's Dragon capsule successfully docked at the International 0:05:40.240 --> 0:05:43.520 Space Station last night. The vessel carried a new crew, 0:05:43.720 --> 0:05:47.640 allowing marooned astronauts Butch Wilmore and Sonny Williams to return 0:05:47.680 --> 0:05:51.080 home after around ten months. One member of the arriving crew, 0:05:51.160 --> 0:05:54.320 ten said the journey ran smoothly. Kurw Ten has had 0:05:54.320 --> 0:05:56.599 a great journey up here, about twenty eight hours to 0:05:57.080 --> 0:05:59.359 get back up to the space station. And I cannot 0:05:59.360 --> 0:06:03.159 tell you the immense joy of our crew when we 0:06:03.160 --> 0:06:05.080 looked out the window and we saw the space station. 0:06:05.640 --> 0:06:08.719 The two stranded astronauts who board a capsule already docked 0:06:08.720 --> 0:06:10.600 at the station and head back to Earth after a 0:06:10.680 --> 0:06:17.000 roughly two day handover period. Time Now for a look 0:06:17.000 --> 0:06:18.760 at some of the other stories making news in New 0:06:18.839 --> 0:06:20.719 York and around the world, and for that were joined 0:06:20.760 --> 0:06:23.479 by Bloomberg's Michael Barr Michael, Good Morning. 0:06:23.279 --> 0:06:28.120 Good Morning Karen. A dynamic storm spawned tornadoes, dust storms, 0:06:28.160 --> 0:06:31.440 and wildfires that killed more than three dozen people in 0:06:31.480 --> 0:06:35.479 the South and Midwest. Hundreds of homes and businesses were destroyed. 0:06:35.680 --> 0:06:38.080 Mississippi Governor Tate Reeves. 0:06:37.880 --> 0:06:45.200 Weather prognosticators indicated a tough weekend. Unfortunately they were accurate. 0:06:45.720 --> 0:06:49.720 In Alabama, Anita Owen's mother died when a twister tore 0:06:49.839 --> 0:06:52.960 up her mobile home in Plantersville early Sunday morning. 0:06:53.200 --> 0:06:56.560 To be honest, you wouldn't think just a wind and 0:06:56.720 --> 0:07:04.520 tornadoes would do this much devastation, but my mom. They 0:07:04.600 --> 0:07:08.800 actually founded around four o'clock this morning, about three hundred 0:07:08.800 --> 0:07:10.800 and fifty yards that way. 0:07:11.560 --> 0:07:14.760 The weather system is moving east, with forecasters warning of 0:07:14.880 --> 0:07:18.679 dangerous winds from Florida to New Jersey today, while heavy 0:07:18.760 --> 0:07:22.120 rain hits New York and New England. 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The Canadian Jack Draper won the 0:10:10.240 --> 0:10:13.720 men's single, seventeen year old Russian Mira Andreva the women's. 0:10:13.720 --> 0:10:16.800 The Yankees were going to start Clark Schmidt yesterday got 0:10:16.840 --> 0:10:19.040 scratched for the sore shoulder of the Yanks. We're running 0:10:19.080 --> 0:10:21.280 out of healthy starting pitchers already with the injuries to 0:10:21.360 --> 0:10:24.719 Garrett Cole and Luis Heel. John stashiew Are Bloomberg Spoint. 0:10:27.160 --> 0:10:31.360 Coast to Coast on Bloomberg Radio, nationwide, on Sirius Exam 0:10:31.480 --> 0:10:34.320 and around the World on Bloomberg dot Com and the 0:10:34.360 --> 0:10:37.439 Bloomberg Business app. This is Bloomberg Daybreak. 0:10:37.600 --> 0:10:40.520 Good morning, I'm Nathan Hager. President Donald Trump says he 0:10:40.640 --> 0:10:43.560 will have a lot to discuss with Russian President Vladimir 0:10:43.600 --> 0:10:46.960 Putin when he speaks with him tomorrow about the prospect 0:10:46.960 --> 0:10:48.560 for a ceasefire with Ukraine. 0:10:48.720 --> 0:10:51.439 Will be talking about land, We'll be talking about power plaids. 0:10:52.960 --> 0:10:56.440 That's a it's a big question, but I think we 0:10:56.520 --> 0:10:58.920 have a lot of it already discussed. 0:10:59.160 --> 0:11:01.839 President Trump's spoke with reporters of bard Air Force one 0:11:01.960 --> 0:11:04.600 last night. Joining us this morning is Bloomberg News Senior 0:11:04.679 --> 0:11:07.040 editor Bill Ferries and Bill. One thing we did not 0:11:07.240 --> 0:11:10.000 hear the President say he plans to discuss with Russias 0:11:10.040 --> 0:11:15.080 Vladimir Putin is security guarantees for Ukraine. How significant is that? 0:11:15.120 --> 0:11:19.479 Good morning, Good morning, Nathan. Well, that's from Ukraine's perspective 0:11:19.520 --> 0:11:24.679 and from the perspective of most of US's traditional European allies. 0:11:24.760 --> 0:11:28.200 That's the big question. Donald Trump saying he will speak 0:11:28.280 --> 0:11:34.480 with Vladimir Putin on Tuesday, and European allies have been 0:11:34.559 --> 0:11:37.920 kind of scrambling to present something to Trump that would 0:11:38.000 --> 0:11:41.720 perhaps get his buy in for a security guarantee. This 0:11:41.800 --> 0:11:44.559 is all This process has obviously been moving very quickly, 0:11:45.320 --> 0:11:47.520 and there's a lot of questions, a lot of angst, 0:11:47.559 --> 0:11:51.040 I think in European capitals about what President Trump might 0:11:51.080 --> 0:11:55.080 promise or agree to on that call when European allies 0:11:55.240 --> 0:11:59.200 and the Ukrainian government itself are not also taking part 0:11:59.240 --> 0:11:59.960 in the negotiation. 0:12:00.320 --> 0:12:02.679 And certainly there's been a question about what kind of 0:12:02.720 --> 0:12:07.720 concessions the President might try to extract from Vladimir Putin. 0:12:07.840 --> 0:12:10.120 Have we gotten a sense of whether he plans to 0:12:10.840 --> 0:12:13.439 go that far to try to get any concessions from 0:12:13.440 --> 0:12:14.480 the Russian side. 0:12:14.960 --> 0:12:18.840 He made some vague comments about the situation on the ground, 0:12:18.880 --> 0:12:21.560 how the territory has shifted hands and there will be 0:12:21.640 --> 0:12:26.320 some dividing up of a territory, he suggested, but no 0:12:26.360 --> 0:12:29.720 one has any kind of specific details. We do know 0:12:29.760 --> 0:12:32.719 that Vladimir Putin has pushed back on the idea of 0:12:32.760 --> 0:12:36.760 an immediate ceasefire. He wants more guarantees that Ukraine will 0:12:36.800 --> 0:12:40.040 be a neutral country, that there will not be NATO 0:12:40.160 --> 0:12:44.400 troops based in the country during or after a ceasefire agreement, 0:12:45.040 --> 0:12:49.120 and just he basically wants to see what he says 0:12:49.240 --> 0:12:53.640 is a threat that prompted his invasion to be removed. 0:12:54.280 --> 0:12:58.120 That's basically in complete conflict with what particularly Kiev and 0:12:58.400 --> 0:13:00.560 European powers are trying to organ now. 0:13:00.840 --> 0:13:04.959 And while we see this extended push for a quick 0:13:05.040 --> 0:13:09.680 ceasefire in the Russia Ukraine conflict, we're seeing this new 0:13:09.720 --> 0:13:14.040 operation that the president has ordered against the Houthy militants 0:13:14.200 --> 0:13:18.400 in Yemen. Could this be an extended campaign against this 0:13:18.440 --> 0:13:21.000 group that's really been going after Red Sea shipping for 0:13:21.080 --> 0:13:21.720 quite some time. 0:13:22.720 --> 0:13:25.479 Yeah, they've been going after the Red Sea shipping basically 0:13:25.559 --> 0:13:31.600 since Israel counterattacked against Hamas in Gaza. Defense Secretary Pete 0:13:31.600 --> 0:13:35.160 Hegseth saying on Fox News on Sunday that this is 0:13:35.240 --> 0:13:39.800 going to be an unrelenting campaign against the Huti rebels 0:13:39.880 --> 0:13:43.640 until they stop firing at civilian and military vessels in 0:13:43.679 --> 0:13:47.560 the Red Sea's We've already seen the Huti's saying that 0:13:47.600 --> 0:13:49.960 they are not going to back down. That they claim 0:13:50.040 --> 0:13:53.800 to have made separate attacks on the USS Harry S. 0:13:53.840 --> 0:13:57.200 Truman aircraft carrier in the last twenty four hours. It's 0:13:57.320 --> 0:14:01.240 a very divided fight. You've got major military power in 0:14:01.280 --> 0:14:05.560 the US trying to go after a smaller more mobile 0:14:06.559 --> 0:14:09.680 rebel group essentially that is very hard to target. In 0:14:09.720 --> 0:14:12.120 the past, the US has had a hard time finding 0:14:12.240 --> 0:14:14.480 enough targets and Yemen to hit. So we'll have to 0:14:14.480 --> 0:14:16.280 see how this plays out. But it does sound like 0:14:16.320 --> 0:14:18.400 the administration is in this for the longer haul. 0:14:18.640 --> 0:14:20.720 I mean, how could this play out for the ceasefire? 0:14:20.800 --> 0:14:24.960 That's really a tenuous situation between Israel and Hamas. 0:14:25.600 --> 0:14:28.120 It is. What the Uti rebels are saying is that 0:14:28.200 --> 0:14:31.440 they basically have restarted their attacks in the Red Sea 0:14:31.880 --> 0:14:36.720 because Israel has blocked the delivery of aid shipments into Gaza. 0:14:36.840 --> 0:14:39.600 If there could be a breakthrough perhaps in the Israel 0:14:39.800 --> 0:14:44.200 Hamas disagreement over aid flows and the return of hostages 0:14:44.440 --> 0:14:47.800 and other parts of that conflict, the Hutis are suggesting 0:14:47.880 --> 0:14:50.720 that they would stop their attacks on the Red Sea, 0:14:50.800 --> 0:14:53.720 but of course no ships have been going through there. Really, 0:14:53.760 --> 0:14:57.280 by and large, it's a big risk for a global 0:14:57.320 --> 0:15:00.560 trade and until there's a longer term piece think it's 0:15:00.560 --> 0:15:02.480 going to be hard to see the Suez and the 0:15:02.480 --> 0:15:03.680 Red Sea being used again. 0:15:03.760 --> 0:15:06.200 Apart from all these geopolitical developments, Bill, we got this 0:15:06.240 --> 0:15:09.800 pretty remarkable truth social post from the President overnight declaring 0:15:09.880 --> 0:15:13.840 former President Joe Biden's pardons for the January sixth Committee 0:15:13.920 --> 0:15:17.240 void and vacant. Can he do that? 0:15:19.560 --> 0:15:22.480 There's really no precedent for that. He's saying that these 0:15:22.560 --> 0:15:27.200 pardons are void because he believes that Joe Biden used 0:15:27.200 --> 0:15:30.920 an auto pen to sign the pardons. That's something we've 0:15:30.920 --> 0:15:35.760 that's an argument we've seen previously from the Heritage Foundation. Obviously, 0:15:35.960 --> 0:15:38.720 if first of all, nobody knows if an autopen was 0:15:38.840 --> 0:15:41.680 used or not. Judges have ruled in the past that 0:15:41.720 --> 0:15:43.640 you don't need to have a written pardon for a 0:15:43.680 --> 0:15:47.080 pardon to be effective. But more broadly, if auto pens 0:15:47.080 --> 0:15:49.600 weren't allowed, there would be a whole lot of legislation 0:15:49.760 --> 0:15:52.400 and every letter from Congress back to a constituent that 0:15:52.440 --> 0:15:55.600 would be void. It's just a widely used tool. 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