Christopher Cross "The Best of Christopher Cross" (1991): Track by Track!

<v Speaker 1>What's in your life?
<v Speaker 2>You find pocus the turn, You're harder round than next thing.
<v Speaker 1>You know your less.
<v Speaker 2>Every week.
<v Speaker 3>Shooting the serious.
<v Speaker 1>Sad he Stampa, Jason.
<v Speaker 3>Stamford, that's serious, man, it's not gold shoes.
<v Speaker 1>Make as soon as your old fountcy.
<v Speaker 4>From me here for retreat, all right, d You and
<v Speaker 4>I have talked about who has had the greatest twenty
<v Speaker 4>four hours in the eighties, and we talked about Billy
<v Speaker 4>Joel having it where he came home and in his
<v Speaker 4>apartment waiting for him was both Christy Brinkley and El McPherson.
<v Speaker 2>Yes.
<v Speaker 4>We also talked about how Lionel Richie hosted the AMAS
<v Speaker 4>and then afterwards he wrote we are the World and
<v Speaker 4>everybody came together and made this incredible song. I now
<v Speaker 4>have a new nominee for greatest twenty four hours in
<v Speaker 4>the nineteen eighties.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, okay, yeah.
<v Speaker 4>February twenty fifth, nineteen eighty one the Grammys, Christopher Cross,
<v Speaker 4>in a clean sweep, wins Record of the Year, Song
<v Speaker 4>of the Year, Album of the Year, New Artist, and
<v Speaker 4>also just throw in best arrangement on a song right
<v Speaker 4>for kicks He cleans up Yes. In the eighty one Grammys.
<v Speaker 5>Had never been done before and wasn't done again for
<v Speaker 5>almost forty years. Billie Eilish did it in twenty twenty.
<v Speaker 2>There you Go, Yeah, heck V and night Man. Yeah.
<v Speaker 4>So today, everybody, welcome to the Shirley Can't Be Serious
<v Speaker 4>podcast where we're talking about Christopher Cross.
<v Speaker 1>Takes me all.
<v Speaker 2>The Christopher Cross.
<v Speaker 4>Christopherross, our patreons clamored for this matchup. I mean, am
<v Speaker 4>I true or no?
<v Speaker 2>It was a dead heat between this one in Chicago
<v Speaker 2>and Survivor.
<v Speaker 1>It really was.
<v Speaker 4>So this week we are starting our compare of Christopher
<v Speaker 4>Cross's Greatest tits yep to Air Supplies Greatest Tits too.
<v Speaker 5>We know we are normally a hard if we're going
<v Speaker 5>to do rock and not do pop, we're normally a
<v Speaker 5>hard rock.
<v Speaker 2>Approaching heavy metal kind of duo. Us.
<v Speaker 5>We haven't done a whole lot of soft rock. As
<v Speaker 5>a matter of fact, I couldn't think of any soft
<v Speaker 5>rock that we've done. But I would say these are,
<v Speaker 5>if you want to call them guilty pleasures, these are
<v Speaker 5>my guilty pleasure soft rock guys Air Supply and Christopher
<v Speaker 5>Cross turn it up.
<v Speaker 2>Baby, I don't care, we don't care. We don't care.
<v Speaker 5>Okay, But for those of you who are not into
<v Speaker 5>the soft rock, like Jeff Johnson, yes, who called us
<v Speaker 5>out over Shirley Fest and was like, what what are
<v Speaker 5>you guys doing? You're going to do Christopher Cross? Now
<v Speaker 5>it's October two? Yes, do you have anything to say
<v Speaker 5>to me?
<v Speaker 4>Almost?
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, kissing your forties, goodbye? Have your birthday?
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, my birthday tomorrow And I've mentioned this before. I
<v Speaker 5>share a birthday with Tommy Lee, Frank Hannon, and Stee
<v Speaker 5>Ray Vaughan.
<v Speaker 2>We're going to talk about here.
<v Speaker 5>Well, I'm going to talk about him right now, ok
<v Speaker 5>right now, because this is this is relevant to today's podcast.
<v Speaker 2>All right.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, So Steve Ravon back in nineteen seventy four was nobody.
<v Speaker 5>He was still playing with club bands, had not gotten
<v Speaker 5>Double Trouble together. I mean, he was well known as
<v Speaker 5>a blues guy, but nobody cared about the blues at
<v Speaker 5>this point in history. He was literally borrowing a guitar
<v Speaker 5>from the guitar shop just to play in his gigs.
<v Speaker 5>He was playing Get this. He was playing with Steven Tobolowski.
<v Speaker 2>Is that name ring a bell for you? You don't
<v Speaker 2>remember him? Well, he is sure heck fire remembers you.
<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, ned Head, Ned get Ahead, Ned Needleman,
<v Speaker 2>Ned Myerson.
<v Speaker 5>Was in fact in a band with Stevie Rayvaughn at
<v Speaker 5>some point, not even kidding this, all right, I'm not kidding,
<v Speaker 5>but that's.
<v Speaker 4>About five seconds and you've blown my mind.
<v Speaker 2>OK, So that's where Stevie Rayvaughn was.
<v Speaker 5>Right Now, if you know Stevie Rayvon, or if you
<v Speaker 5>happen to be a guitar player and just are familiar
<v Speaker 5>with some of the more iconic guitars in history, his
<v Speaker 5>is one of the most iconic. Very clearly, everybody will
<v Speaker 5>recognize it because it has his initials sr V stickered
<v Speaker 5>onto the pickguard of the guitar. Now, little side note,
<v Speaker 5>the guy he had go get his stickers actually couldn't
<v Speaker 5>find a V.
<v Speaker 2>It's actually a you, which is why it's very rounded.
<v Speaker 2>And who knew at the time.
<v Speaker 5>Right, So, back in nineteen seventy four, Stevie ray Vaughan
<v Speaker 5>bought this guitar second hand. It's a secondhand guitar. Now,
<v Speaker 5>this is the guitar he called the wife. This is
<v Speaker 5>his number one guitar, and you look at it today.
<v Speaker 5>It's in the Texas Music museum down there, and the
<v Speaker 5>finish is completely worn off where he's just hit it
<v Speaker 5>so many times with pick it's got cigarette burns in
<v Speaker 5>the head. The head of it actually broke and had
<v Speaker 5>to be replaced with something else. Right, But this is
<v Speaker 5>the guitar that he played as his main guitar for
<v Speaker 5>his entire career. And we all know how good that sounds, right, Yeah,
<v Speaker 5>for sure. Now here's the rest of the story. It
<v Speaker 5>had been traded the day before Stevie ray Vaughn bought it.
<v Speaker 5>It had been traded to the guitar store by Christopher Cross.
<v Speaker 1>What there you go?
<v Speaker 6>What?
<v Speaker 5>Christopher Cross wanted a beefier guitar. He had been playing
<v Speaker 5>this Fender and he wanted a beefier guitar, and so
<v Speaker 5>he went in and traded his Fender Strat for a
<v Speaker 5>gibson less Paul. What And it's this fifty nine gibson
<v Speaker 5>less Paul that he got that he plays on the
<v Speaker 5>first song that we're going to talk about today. And
<v Speaker 5>let me just tell you in this in researching this episode,
<v Speaker 5>I think I can say with confidence Christopher Cross is
<v Speaker 5>the most underrated guitar legend that has ever been big
<v Speaker 5>in the music industry. I mean, we talked about it
<v Speaker 5>with Prince, but Prince you still I mean, you've got
<v Speaker 5>let's go crazy. You've got the solo that he did
<v Speaker 5>when they covered my Guitar went gently weeps. I mean,
<v Speaker 5>he's obviously a musical genius, but Christopher Cross, nobody thinks
<v Speaker 5>about him playing guitar other than they happen to have
<v Speaker 5>seen him on stage with a guitar in his hand.
<v Speaker 5>But when we get to the first song that we're
<v Speaker 5>about to cover, we're gonna talk about the guitar solo
<v Speaker 5>at the end of it, and it's and I think
<v Speaker 5>minds are going to be blown. Let's get into it, man,
<v Speaker 5>all right, let's go all right. We are covering Christopher
<v Speaker 5>Cross's greatest hits. Yes, so this is an album that
<v Speaker 5>came out in nineteen ninety one, so we're going right
<v Speaker 5>down the track listing.
<v Speaker 2>Yep.
<v Speaker 4>However, there are a few songs where I'm like, eh.
<v Speaker 2>I had the same thought.
<v Speaker 5>I've got a challenge for you, all right, Yeah, I
<v Speaker 5>think there are probably three songs on this album that
<v Speaker 5>could have been replaced with better hits by Christopher Cross.
<v Speaker 5>Would you to tell me which three songs? And there
<v Speaker 5>are three songs you would replace.
<v Speaker 4>You're on Okay, let's go to song number one. That
<v Speaker 4>song is called Ride Like the Wind. I bought this
<v Speaker 4>week I'm on the rout, no tame snep Okay.
<v Speaker 5>So one of the highlights of Shirley Fest, which was
<v Speaker 5>just happened this past weekend, was when Jeff Johnson was
<v Speaker 5>calling us out on covering Christopher Cross and we're like,
<v Speaker 5>what about Ride Like the Wind? And he said what
<v Speaker 5>and we said Ride Like the Wind and played it
<v Speaker 5>and he was like, oh my gosh, I had no
<v Speaker 5>idea that this was Christopher Cross.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.
<v Speaker 4>I talked to him today and he was like, he goes.
<v Speaker 4>When I said I didn't like Christopher Cross, He's like,
<v Speaker 4>I remember the like slow motion turning. He goes, And
<v Speaker 4>then he dropped the needle on Ride Like the Wind,
<v Speaker 4>and he goes. I had no idea that was Christopher Cross.
<v Speaker 4>What a great song.
<v Speaker 1>And win.
<v Speaker 5>This is the debut single off of his debut album
<v Speaker 5>went to number two, was kept out of the number
<v Speaker 5>one spot by Blondie four I Believe four weeks four weeks,
<v Speaker 5>which he said was not fair because Blondie only released
<v Speaker 5>that song as a single. You didn't have to go
<v Speaker 5>buy the whole album. You can only buy a single.
<v Speaker 5>It had more album sales than his did, right hey, okay, yes,
<v Speaker 5>that's all true.
<v Speaker 4>I gotta give you this top ten though, oh heck, yes, yes,
<v Speaker 4>so there's some surely stuff going on right here. Okay,
<v Speaker 4>of course, yes, so, as you said. This song was
<v Speaker 4>released in January of nineteen eighty. It reaches number two
<v Speaker 4>April twenty sixth, nineteen eighty. Here's your top nine. I'm
<v Speaker 4>gonna give you nine, okay, yeah, so number nine You
<v Speaker 4>May be Right by Billy Joel Love It. Number eight
<v Speaker 4>I Can't Tell You Why by the Eagles.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, great, yepkay.
<v Speaker 4>Number seven fire Lake by Bob Seger. We just talked
<v Speaker 4>about how we both kind of love that song exactly.
<v Speaker 2>Yes.
<v Speaker 4>Number six Lost in Love by Their Supply, Their Supply.
<v Speaker 4>Number five Special by Ray Goodman and Brown.
<v Speaker 2>Don't recall that one.
<v Speaker 4>Just listen to that song? Yeah, horrible, ri, I'm like,
<v Speaker 4>what are we doing here?
<v Speaker 1>All right?
<v Speaker 2>Okay? Yeah?
<v Speaker 4>Number four with You I'm Born Again by Billy Preston
<v Speaker 4>and Serrita. Okay, I listened to that one. What are
<v Speaker 4>we doing people?
<v Speaker 2>Okay? All right?
<v Speaker 5>Well we I mean we talked about when we did
<v Speaker 5>our top five of nineteen eighty it was it was
<v Speaker 5>a tough little rough and this is the beginning of
<v Speaker 5>nineteen eighty.
<v Speaker 4>One, right, this is like the remnants of the seventies. Okay, Okay,
<v Speaker 4>number three another brick in the wall, of course. Yes,
<v Speaker 4>then you've got right like the wind and call me some.
<v Speaker 5>Stinkers, but some absolutely Mount Rushmore kind of exactly right.
<v Speaker 2>Sure, yeah, Okay.
<v Speaker 4>So I would listened to an interview with Christopher Cross
<v Speaker 4>and he did say my clock may be off just
<v Speaker 4>a bit on the chronology. He did say that they
<v Speaker 4>held his first album until after Christmas nineteen seventy nine. Okay, Okay,
<v Speaker 4>I show that it was released in nineteen seventy nine.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I'm going to make the.
<v Speaker 4>Case that this is the last great album of the seventies. Okay,
<v Speaker 4>So the competition is an album by Utopia.
<v Speaker 5>Okay, we're saying this is what the last week of
<v Speaker 5>nineteen seventy.
<v Speaker 4>Nineteen seventeen, and last week in nineteen seventy nine. Okay,
<v Speaker 4>you have another album by Neil Diamond called September one.
<v Speaker 2>Okay.
<v Speaker 4>I didn't recognize anything on that hot all right, I'm
<v Speaker 4>not saying it's not great. I don't recognize it. And
<v Speaker 4>then you have the clash London calling but that was
<v Speaker 4>like a week earlier. Okay, so great album, not the
<v Speaker 4>last great album.
<v Speaker 2>Though, Okay, okay, go yeah, okay, okay, So here's a
<v Speaker 2>story on this. Tell me.
<v Speaker 5>So we've established that Christopher Cross is a great guitarist,
<v Speaker 5>and we're going to learn more about that when we
<v Speaker 5>look at the end of this song. But he was
<v Speaker 5>so good that when Deep Purple came down to Houston
<v Speaker 5>and Richie Blackmore got sick and couldn't play, they were
<v Speaker 5>going to cancel the show. And somebody said, hey, there's
<v Speaker 5>this kid not only can shred the guitar, he knows
<v Speaker 5>all of your Deep Purple songs. And that kid was Christopher.
<v Speaker 4>Christ Cross Christopher Gebert at that time. Yes, right, yes,
<v Speaker 4>you're right. They denied this for years and years and years. Yeah,
<v Speaker 4>and then at the end of Deep Purple's career they
<v Speaker 4>finally acknowledged it. Richie Blackmore said, you know, I've had
<v Speaker 4>people kind of step in and kind of help me
<v Speaker 4>on stage a little bit here and there, he goes,
<v Speaker 4>but I've never had anybody sub for me. And he goes,
<v Speaker 4>you're the only one, and.
<v Speaker 2>Did you tell me that? Like they put him in
<v Speaker 2>a wig and and like it did it tried to
<v Speaker 2>disguise him.
<v Speaker 5>Okay, yeah, I mean I think he actually had long
<v Speaker 5>hair at that point in time in history.
<v Speaker 4>But they did not call attention to the fact that
<v Speaker 4>it was not Richie blackmore.
<v Speaker 5>Right, They did not say, introducing Christopher Gebbert on guitar, right, Okay,
<v Speaker 5>so he was that good. He's playing for a lot
<v Speaker 5>of guys, you know, just a great guitarist. He actually
<v Speaker 5>started as a drummer ball getting ino that later. But
<v Speaker 5>he's he's playing guitar and doing very well. But there's
<v Speaker 5>only so much money that can be made playing guitar
<v Speaker 5>and bands in the late seventies, right, right, And so
<v Speaker 5>he started he's an entrepreneur. He started a little side
<v Speaker 5>business selling weed, of course, and he sold so much
<v Speaker 5>weed that by the mid to late seventies he had
<v Speaker 5>accumulated fifty thousand dollars that he had in the Broadway bank.
<v Speaker 2>Right.
<v Speaker 5>With that fifty thousand dollars, he decided, Okay, I need
<v Speaker 5>to get a good demo. He bought himself at eight Track.
<v Speaker 5>He knew a guy down in Austin who was opening
<v Speaker 5>a brand new studio. So he has a buddy, Steve Shields,
<v Speaker 5>who is building a full professional recording studio down in Austin,
<v Speaker 5>and he just says, hey, can I bring my own
<v Speaker 5>equipment in at a time that you're not recording, like
<v Speaker 5>five am? Let me come in at five am and
<v Speaker 5>I'll record my demo with my own equipment. I just
<v Speaker 5>need to be in your space to have that, you know,
<v Speaker 5>because they build it to have the best sound, right.
<v Speaker 2>Sure.
<v Speaker 5>And so he's playing in clubs seven nights a week.
<v Speaker 5>One of the songs that he's covering is a song
<v Speaker 5>called nineteen hundred and eighty five by Wings.
<v Speaker 4>You sent this to me today, Yes, I was blown away.
<v Speaker 5>Okay, So when you're in band and you have to
<v Speaker 5>play seven nights a week, you have to do things
<v Speaker 5>to extend your set. I mean you just you find
<v Speaker 5>there's only so many songs that you can learn, and
<v Speaker 5>so you're like, okay, what can we do to extend
<v Speaker 5>the song? Now, nineteen hundred and eighty five is already
<v Speaker 5>like a five minute and forty second long song, but
<v Speaker 5>there's this.
<v Speaker 4>Break at about three forty in before you play that
<v Speaker 4>clip dyes. Is it weird to think that there was
<v Speaker 4>a time when they were writing about the future being
<v Speaker 4>nineteen hundred and eighty five?
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, okay, So about three thirty five that piano drop happens,
<v Speaker 5>and then the guitar solo starts happenings in C minor,
<v Speaker 5>and so to extend the song, Christopher Cross is playing
<v Speaker 5>extra stuff and he's developing his own riffs. Okay, so
<v Speaker 5>they've played for seven nights. He's got this kind of riff.
<v Speaker 5>They're driving from Houston to Austin so that they can
<v Speaker 5>get to the studio by five am to do their
<v Speaker 5>recording like they plan to, and on the way, he
<v Speaker 5>decides to drop some acid.
<v Speaker 2>Because why not.
<v Speaker 5>It was the seventies, man, I mean, what else are
<v Speaker 5>you gonna do? So he drops some acid, and on
<v Speaker 5>the way he is thinking about this riff that he's
<v Speaker 5>been playing over this nineteen hundred and eighty five song,
<v Speaker 5>and he comes up with a plan for a new
<v Speaker 5>song called ride like the Wind Wind. He writes it
<v Speaker 5>in red marker on a yellow notepad as they drive
<v Speaker 5>from Houston to Austin, and he's tripping balls.
<v Speaker 2>Right.
<v Speaker 5>It's about a guy who is sentenced to death, who
<v Speaker 5>is riding like the wind to get down to Mexico
<v Speaker 5>to escape the justice.
<v Speaker 4>I love it man, It's kind of that cowboy feel well. Yes, Okay,
<v Speaker 4>Michael McDonald sings the answer back in the chorus in
<v Speaker 4>this song Okay. The Doobie Brothers were recording taking it
<v Speaker 4>to the streets, like in the studio next door, and
<v Speaker 4>he said, Michael McDonald poked in one day and it's
<v Speaker 4>just like, Hey, what's going on over here, guys? And
<v Speaker 4>he said he said it was kind of heartbreaking for
<v Speaker 4>Michael McDonald because he's like, I like what you guys
<v Speaker 4>are doing over here better than I like what's going
<v Speaker 4>on over there?
<v Speaker 2>Oh wow.
<v Speaker 4>And so he's like, listen, if you need me to
<v Speaker 4>sing a little bit, help you out.
<v Speaker 2>Yep.
<v Speaker 5>He actually started by singing on a different song.
<v Speaker 2>Yep.
<v Speaker 5>Christopher Cross had sang both the question and the answer
<v Speaker 5>on this deal and they were like, I wonder if
<v Speaker 5>we can get Michael McDonald to come back so good?
<v Speaker 2>Right? Yeah?
<v Speaker 4>You know who Elso sings on this track right here?
<v Speaker 4>Tell me Don Henley, shut up, Don Henley?
<v Speaker 6>What?
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?
<v Speaker 4>So he sings back up on this track.
<v Speaker 2>I did not know that, yes, wow.
<v Speaker 4>So The interviewer was saying, how did you get Don Hiley? Dude,
<v Speaker 4>like you were a first time artist, you get Don
<v Speaker 4>Hilly the Eagles? He said, well, he's a Texan and
<v Speaker 4>I'm a Texan and Texan support each other.
<v Speaker 2>Wow. Yeah, that is wow. That's great.
<v Speaker 5>All right, so real quick before we leave, Yes, I
<v Speaker 5>have to talk about this the solo at the end.
<v Speaker 5>Let's talk about this solo is fantastic. If you want
<v Speaker 5>to get the full treatment, check out Rick Biatto's web page.
<v Speaker 5>This one's got like three point three million views. As
<v Speaker 5>he he says, this is an incredible solo that.
<v Speaker 2>You can't hear.
<v Speaker 4>Can't hear it.
<v Speaker 5>You can't hear it because they turned Michael McDonald all
<v Speaker 5>the way up and they turned his guitar at five.
<v Speaker 2>Right, and it is freaking brilliant.
<v Speaker 5>And I mean, as Rick Biotto is is is trying
<v Speaker 5>to play and listen and he was able to pull
<v Speaker 5>the track like he got the stem tracks and he
<v Speaker 5>was able to pull it and hear it. He's he's
<v Speaker 5>throwing out names like this is Angus Young, this is
<v Speaker 5>Terry caff.
<v Speaker 2>This is Jimmy Page. You know, he is just throwing
<v Speaker 2>out and.
<v Speaker 5>He's right, These guitar licks that Christopher Cross is doing
<v Speaker 5>are just amazing, and it's completely covered up by a
<v Speaker 5>loud piano and allowed Michael McDonald and I'm really glad
<v Speaker 5>apparently like Christopher Cross. Like when Rick Biotto put this
<v Speaker 5>video out, like everybody started blasting Christopher Cross with that.
<v Speaker 5>So Christopher Cross showed up at Rick Biatto's place.
<v Speaker 2>And was like, let's talk about it.
<v Speaker 5>And so they talk and he was like, honestly, it
<v Speaker 5>didn't even occur to me that it was a problem
<v Speaker 5>because he's so he was intimidated when they got there, which,
<v Speaker 5>by the way, the intimidation that they all felt because
<v Speaker 5>they're new musicians in this space is why we have
<v Speaker 5>this unmistakable.
<v Speaker 1>Four on the floor boom boom, boom.
<v Speaker 5>Boom, because the producer was like, listen, guys, let's just
<v Speaker 5>give something on every beat so that you've got it
<v Speaker 5>and you're not getting you know, you're not losing your
<v Speaker 5>place and all this other stuff. But he's very like
<v Speaker 5>I wouldn't say insecure, but he's humble about his own
<v Speaker 5>guitar playing. And I can't blame him because Eric Johnson
<v Speaker 5>plays on some of these songs. Steve Lucather plays on
<v Speaker 5>some of these songs. I mean, he's a smart guy.
<v Speaker 5>He is surrounding himself with the best in the industry.
<v Speaker 5>So Lily, this guy has amazing chops that nobody knows about.
<v Speaker 5>Because he just said, you know, here's my first one.
<v Speaker 5>I'll play this solo on this one, and now we're
<v Speaker 5>just gonna get people better than me.
<v Speaker 4>That sounds like the end of Running with the Night
<v Speaker 4>with Leona Ritchie, where Steve Lugather is just going crazy.
<v Speaker 5>Yes, and he's he's blisteringly good that you can only
<v Speaker 5>hear every once in a while. And he said, didn't
<v Speaker 5>think about it. What we were trying to do was
<v Speaker 5>create a wall of sound. They were trying to do
<v Speaker 5>the Phil Spector, you know, just and they it was
<v Speaker 5>a wall of sound. It was just he was the
<v Speaker 5>mortar instead of the brick.
<v Speaker 4>He is a huge Beach Boys fan.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there you go. Okay, next song, next song.
<v Speaker 4>Next song on this album is a song called all Right.
<v Speaker 1>I Know noa song you.
<v Speaker 2>Okay. It's nineteen eighty three.
<v Speaker 5>Yes, you're watching the nc Double A Division one Men's playoffs, Yes, okay,
<v Speaker 5>and you might be watching because there's this incredible player
<v Speaker 5>from North Carolina named Michael Jordan. That's true, but you
<v Speaker 5>probably weren't because not that many I mean, unless you're
<v Speaker 5>from North Carolina or we're just a big basketball fan.
<v Speaker 5>He was just like this kid who is up and coming. Yeah,
<v Speaker 5>it was probably even less likely that you were there
<v Speaker 5>for North Carolina State.
<v Speaker 2>Now without a doubt.
<v Speaker 5>Okay, yes, And it's the finals and they're against Houston
<v Speaker 5>and they're eight point underdogs, and I watched the end
<v Speaker 5>of this game and it's one of the most memorable
<v Speaker 5>moments in NCAA playoff history. Right, they are cornering them
<v Speaker 5>up by the half court like they're doing everything they
<v Speaker 5>can not to get fouled.
<v Speaker 2>The game is tied.
<v Speaker 5>Finally, like last two seconds, chunks one up from deep
<v Speaker 5>rare a deep deep shot, and it arcs and falls short,
<v Speaker 5>but Lorenzo Charles is right under the goal, jumps up,
<v Speaker 5>grabs it, and slams it in at the last second,
<v Speaker 5>and they win the game, beating Houston. Now, I say
<v Speaker 5>all that to say a few minutes later you have
<v Speaker 5>britt Musburger introducing the highlight video and what songs should
<v Speaker 5>be playing with highlight video.
<v Speaker 2>But alright, by Christopher Crawling.
<v Speaker 1>All right.
<v Speaker 5>Again, just.
<v Speaker 4>First of all, I love that song and that game.
<v Speaker 4>I mean Jim Balvano, the coach for North Carolina State.
<v Speaker 4>I could still see him running around the court, look like.
<v Speaker 2>What just happened?
<v Speaker 7>What you know?
<v Speaker 4>And on that Houston team you have Clyde Drexler and
<v Speaker 4>Keim Alaj Want me like these guys, I slam a
<v Speaker 4>jam and that is an all timer team.
<v Speaker 2>Yes.
<v Speaker 4>I heard a guy say that Orson Wells would skip breakfast, lunch,
<v Speaker 4>and dinner before North Carolina State would beat Houston, and
<v Speaker 4>of course they did. Yeah, Okay, I've got a trivia
<v Speaker 4>question for you regarding this song. I think I gave
<v Speaker 4>it to you the other night. You did, and I
<v Speaker 4>called my buddy Jim Butler, and I called David Wright.
<v Speaker 2>This is the question.
<v Speaker 4>Name the five songs in the eighties that have debuted
<v Speaker 4>on the Hot one hundred at number twenty nine or higher.
<v Speaker 2>I'll give you one. This is one, right, Okay? Was
<v Speaker 2>this one twenty nine? Twenty nine? Okay?
<v Speaker 4>This debuted at number twenty nine when it like, literally
<v Speaker 4>you release it, it's number twenty nine on the charts.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.
<v Speaker 5>So when you asked me this question, it took me
<v Speaker 5>about five seconds to go Thriller, and you were like, yes,
<v Speaker 5>because that one.
<v Speaker 2>We know the history on that, Like they didn't.
<v Speaker 5>Even want to release Thriller as a single, but the
<v Speaker 5>album was doing incredible. They were making this incredible video.
<v Speaker 5>You know that was planned, and so I can see
<v Speaker 5>release that as a single. It's gonna be it's gonna
<v Speaker 5>be debuting very high, very high.
<v Speaker 6>And what was it.
<v Speaker 4>We're twenty twenty. That's the highest release Thriller and it
<v Speaker 4>like a bullet, okay, but Thriller only moved up sixteen places.
<v Speaker 4>It never yeah, number one, number.
<v Speaker 2>One, that's crazy. And then you said there was there
<v Speaker 2>was a duo. There was a duet.
<v Speaker 5>A duet, that's right, Yes, a duet, like two guys
<v Speaker 5>who didn't normally sing together. That's true, right, not the
<v Speaker 5>Righteous Brothers, that's right, that's right.
<v Speaker 4>Okay, So a duet, yes, And then we're gonna say
<v Speaker 4>a special circumstance, a special circumstance.
<v Speaker 2>Okay.
<v Speaker 5>So it took some clues and you did, you did
<v Speaker 5>go well, one of them's one we're studying now. I'm like, okay,
<v Speaker 5>Christopher Cross, but it did not. I could not have
<v Speaker 5>told you it was this song. For sure, right, but
<v Speaker 5>he was on so much fire from that debut album, Huge,
<v Speaker 5>like sweeps the Grammys, like, I mean, it's crazy and
<v Speaker 5>Arthur's theme don't forget that. Yeah, Arthur's thing comes in,
<v Speaker 5>it wins, the Oscar almost wins a bunch of Grammys itself. Sure,
<v Speaker 5>And so I'm like, okay, Dot Duet, I got nothing
<v Speaker 5>and You're like, we've covered one of their songs. I'm like, man,
<v Speaker 5>And then I think of Paul McCartney and Michael Jackson
<v Speaker 5>and I'm like is it the girl is mine? And
<v Speaker 5>You're like no, And I'm like is it and you.
<v Speaker 4>Said yes, say Say s debut at number twenty.
<v Speaker 5>Six, okay, and then you then there was a band
<v Speaker 5>that was involved, and I think on this one, I
<v Speaker 5>don't remember how far along on this one, but we
<v Speaker 5>had talked about it over the weekend and we talked
<v Speaker 5>about covering this band and I was like, is it
<v Speaker 5>min at work?
<v Speaker 2>And that is what it was? Overkill number twenty eight.
<v Speaker 2>That was a shocker to me.
<v Speaker 5>Yes, okay, And I think I guessed the other one
<v Speaker 5>and I just brought the album in here and we
<v Speaker 5>were just talking about it moments ago with Lionel Richie's Okay,
<v Speaker 5>just brought the album in here and you get it
<v Speaker 5>in front of the camera. There is thank you, Christopher Weber,
<v Speaker 5>you got that for me last year. We're putting it
<v Speaker 5>on the wall now. But Lionel Richie's best twenty four
<v Speaker 5>hours this song, what did this debut?
<v Speaker 4>We Are the World debuted at number twenty one.
<v Speaker 2>Nice.
<v Speaker 4>Nice, but let's not let all right get buried in.
<v Speaker 4>This debuted at number twenty nine. That's incredible.
<v Speaker 2>This is incredible.
<v Speaker 4>So and it's the first single off the second album
<v Speaker 4>of Christopher Cross. Jeff Piccaro, Mike Piccaro, and Steve Lucather
<v Speaker 4>play on this song.
<v Speaker 5>Three of the key members of Toto also played on
<v Speaker 5>Eler by the way. They sure did, all of them,
<v Speaker 5>They sure did.
<v Speaker 4>This was the last song written for that second album, okay,
<v Speaker 4>because they were trying to They looked at her and
<v Speaker 4>they're like, we need something a little radio friendly, uh huh,
<v Speaker 4>And here.
<v Speaker 5>You got for nineteen eighty what was it three four
<v Speaker 5>eighty three in nineteen eighty three. This is very radio friendly.
<v Speaker 5>So this nineteen eighty seven not radio friendly.
<v Speaker 4>At all, exactly right. Yeah, So, as we've talked, I
<v Speaker 4>mean eighty three, eighty four pretty stacked with hits. Yeah, okay,
<v Speaker 4>I just want to roll through this real quick, all right.
<v Speaker 4>Peaks out at number twelve, okay, okay. Number eleven as
<v Speaker 4>you Are by Lionel Richie Powerhouse in the eighties. Sure,
<v Speaker 4>Number ten maybe one of the worst songs of the
<v Speaker 4>nineteen eighties, passed the Duchy by Musical Youth.
<v Speaker 2>I don't remember that one.
<v Speaker 4>Number nine back on the Chain Gang by the Pretenders.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.
<v Speaker 4>Number eight we've got tonight Kenny Rogers and Sheena Easton right.
<v Speaker 4>Number seven You and I by Eddie Rabbit and Crystal Gail. Okay, yeah,
<v Speaker 4>I remember, Hey, okay, Number six Bay come to me?
<v Speaker 2>No, all right?
<v Speaker 4>Number five hungry like the Wolf.
<v Speaker 1>Sure?
<v Speaker 4>Number four, do you really want to hurt me? Culture
<v Speaker 4>Club or Ectric Club? Number three Straight Cat Strut by
<v Speaker 4>the Straight Cats had that LP by the way, Yeah.
<v Speaker 4>Number two Shame on the Moon okay, Bob Seeger Yeah.
<v Speaker 4>And number one Billy Gene. Oh of course you were
<v Speaker 4>not knocking Michael Jackson off that perch.
<v Speaker 2>No, I didn't realize that the Shame on the Moon
<v Speaker 2>got so high. Number two. Yeah, that's that's impressive.
<v Speaker 4>So by the way, just a little tidbit, yeah, all
<v Speaker 4>right by Christopher Cross was used for the NCAA Highlight
<v Speaker 4>Reel for a few years until one Shining Moment came
<v Speaker 4>and took over.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, all right.
<v Speaker 4>Next song on the album is a song called Someday.
<v Speaker 2>So we think.
<v Speaker 5>I feel like this could have been used as the
<v Speaker 5>introduction for some eighties sitcom.
<v Speaker 2>I agree with you, like Empty Nest or something like that.
<v Speaker 5>Like I can see people doing the freeze frame and
<v Speaker 5>the little name going underneath them, you know, oh, you
<v Speaker 5>know what? You know how they do that with Predator?
<v Speaker 5>Like they changed that, Yeah, the end of Predator. Yes,
<v Speaker 5>it's got that. That would be a perfect song to
<v Speaker 5>throw on the end of Predator to see if it works.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.
<v Speaker 4>I can see that, you know, used at the end
<v Speaker 4>and the Facts of Life or something like that.
<v Speaker 2>I am totally gonna do that. I want to find
<v Speaker 2>a way to do that.
<v Speaker 4>This song came out in nineteen eighty eighth. It doesn't
<v Speaker 4>really feel like nineteen eighty eight to me.
<v Speaker 5>No, that's and that's why I was saying where this
<v Speaker 5>would have been radio friendly in eighty three, not an
<v Speaker 5>eighty seven, not an eighty eight.
<v Speaker 4>Okay, I'm going to say this is where we drop
<v Speaker 4>in our first.
<v Speaker 5>Replacement replacement song. I think you're right, Okay, you're taking
<v Speaker 5>out some day? Yes, what are you putting in its place?
<v Speaker 4>Let's go with swept Away?
<v Speaker 6>Okay, never anything at the Smoothfast?
<v Speaker 1>Did we look in a shed?
<v Speaker 7>And Mike Malass, I guess I'll let it shoo because
<v Speaker 7>you're smile toomy.
<v Speaker 5>So ironically, since I just said that, the other song
<v Speaker 5>that we threw out could have been used for a
<v Speaker 5>sitcom if you happen to remember Season three of Growing Pains,
<v Speaker 5>episodes one and two, where the Seaver family go to
<v Speaker 5>Hawaii for for Sure. Kirk Cameron aka Mike Seaver, immediately
<v Speaker 5>upon arrival falls in love with a beautiful Hawaiian tour guide,
<v Speaker 5>and the montage that follows plays this song from beginning
<v Speaker 5>till end. I just have to think like they were,
<v Speaker 5>just like, hey, guys, we're rocking the networks right now.
<v Speaker 5>How about you give us a free vacation, and you
<v Speaker 5>guys fell away find a way to fill up a
<v Speaker 5>bunch of space so that we don't have to talk much. Okay,
<v Speaker 5>we're going to do a love montage with Christopher Cross
<v Speaker 5>swept away, playing through the entire thing.
<v Speaker 4>I know, right, So I told you this is like
<v Speaker 4>the ballad of Mike' sever Right. So he's looking at
<v Speaker 4>this little Hawaiian girl who's like giving the tour, and.
<v Speaker 2>She's beautiful and all gorgeous.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and I could see where a you know, seventeen
<v Speaker 4>or eighteen year old boy be like, eh, I slept way.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.
<v Speaker 4>I went to Kawai a few years ago and I
<v Speaker 4>went to a hamburger stand there in Kawai.
<v Speaker 5>And you've talked about this on our what third episode
<v Speaker 5>I think is because we talked about Raiders of the
<v Speaker 5>Lost Ark.
<v Speaker 2>That's right.
<v Speaker 4>It was right by the mountain that the beginning of
<v Speaker 4>Raiders of the Lost Ark is filmed out. Yes, And
<v Speaker 4>there's a little hamburger stand there and their number one
<v Speaker 4>seller is an Island Girl and it's a burger with
<v Speaker 4>with pineapple and cheese on is great. So when you
<v Speaker 4>buy the burger, you walk up to the front and
<v Speaker 4>you say, I'd like to take an Island Girl home
<v Speaker 4>with me tonight, and we all.
<v Speaker 2>How about a burger instead? Okay? All right.
<v Speaker 4>Next song on the album is a song called Love
<v Speaker 4>Is Love.
<v Speaker 1>Shook Him Up.
<v Speaker 5>Town I can see Jason finally dancing with Catherine Colvin,
<v Speaker 5>who's been begging him to dance for years now. It's
<v Speaker 5>a little Hawaiian shirt on and a little hip shaken
<v Speaker 5>with This song is love, man, they give it so
<v Speaker 5>we didn't mention that in a ride like the Wind.
<v Speaker 5>It starts off with the breeze blowing. You got that,
<v Speaker 5>but it's very subtle. They're like, we're worried it was
<v Speaker 5>gonna be a little too cheesy, but we just kept
<v Speaker 5>it low and it's music comes in quick. This one
<v Speaker 5>has the sounds of birds and waves and seagulls. Yeah, yeah,
<v Speaker 5>you're out on You're out on the beach pretty quickly
<v Speaker 5>into the song.
<v Speaker 4>I mean, put a lay around my neck, give me
<v Speaker 4>a drink with an umbrella in it, let's go to
<v Speaker 4>the beach.
<v Speaker 1>I'm good with it.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm good with it.
<v Speaker 5>No, Yeah, I'm surprised. I'm surprised it wasn't used in Cocktail.
<v Speaker 2>Love is love in any language, right.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, not his best work, but still an okay song.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this is a decent song. I like it.
<v Speaker 5>I wouldn't kick it off of the album, right, We'll
<v Speaker 5>leave it on the beach. But I mean, definitely. If
<v Speaker 5>I'm on the beach this thing comes on, I'm letting
<v Speaker 5>it play out and I'm drinking my Pina colada.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, next song on the album. Next song on
<v Speaker 2>the album is Words of Wisdom.
<v Speaker 3>Hockeysten just because of Pain to the side.
<v Speaker 1>Another huh.
<v Speaker 5>Okay, So this stuff is second album, last song on
<v Speaker 5>the album, and for my money, it is fantastic.
<v Speaker 2>I love this is This is pure Christopher Cross for me.
<v Speaker 2>Just love it.
<v Speaker 5>Song about how people try to keep giving you words
<v Speaker 5>of wisdom whenever somebody's broken up with you, and they
<v Speaker 5>all sound the same and it doesn't ease the pain.
<v Speaker 4>He has the voice of an angel.
<v Speaker 2>He really does. I mean, it's a beautiful, beautiful voice.
<v Speaker 6>It is.
<v Speaker 4>It's in that upper register.
<v Speaker 2>Uh huh. And he can go even higher.
<v Speaker 5>There are a few of these songs where he like
<v Speaker 5>he takes it up another notch and I'm just like, dang, Yeah,
<v Speaker 5>it's not even a struggle. You know, he's not straining.
<v Speaker 5>It's just like he's just gonna go there and it's
<v Speaker 5>gonna be casual for him. He has got incredible range.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I heard him talk about this album. He did
<v Speaker 4>go to Ballatown a little bit in this album, but
<v Speaker 4>he said, listen, this is the process that I went through.
<v Speaker 4>These are the songs that I wrote. They tried to
<v Speaker 4>make me, turn me into kind of a rock artist
<v Speaker 4>my third album, but this is where I.
<v Speaker 2>Was at the time, and that's that's cool.
<v Speaker 5>So he can shred like Richie Blackmore, but that's not
<v Speaker 5>what he wants to do. He loved Joni Mitchell, like, yeah,
<v Speaker 5>he grew up. He loves Steely Dan, by the way.
<v Speaker 5>On the note that he is an incredible guitarist. Steely
<v Speaker 5>Dan tried to get him to come play on their stuff.
<v Speaker 4>I know.
<v Speaker 2>Steely Dan is known.
<v Speaker 5>For being hyper hyper critical about getting the best musicians
<v Speaker 5>to they come play guitar, and he's like, I'm not
<v Speaker 5>good enough to do that. Yeah, it's incredible, but this
<v Speaker 5>song is I mean, it's beautiful. It pulls at your
<v Speaker 5>heart strings. You can identify with the emotion that he's
<v Speaker 5>going through.
<v Speaker 2>The melody is a hook. It's just all wonderful from
<v Speaker 2>beginning to the.
<v Speaker 4>Meteoric rise that he went through for he literally playing
<v Speaker 4>fraternity parties and super small clubs to opening for the Eagles,
<v Speaker 4>and Bonnie Ray was so quick and so fast I mean,
<v Speaker 4>you kind of need words of wisdom. But you know,
<v Speaker 4>the interesting thing is how he got discovered. Do you
<v Speaker 4>know this story? So he's like, all I want is
<v Speaker 4>a record deal. How do I get a record deal?
<v Speaker 4>So he looks in Billboard magazine and he was a
<v Speaker 4>big fan of Warner Brothers because he liked Jenny Mitchell
<v Speaker 4>and he liked he liked Jimmy Hendricks. He's like, okay, well,
<v Speaker 4>I'd like to be a part of Warner Brothers. So
<v Speaker 4>he sees the name mo Osting and he's like, well,
<v Speaker 4>that guy gets tapes all day long. I can't send
<v Speaker 4>it to him. So right under that was his assistant.
<v Speaker 4>So he's like, well, I'll send my tape to his assistant.
<v Speaker 4>His assistant's name is David Berson, good old Dave. So
<v Speaker 4>Dave's his assistant. He's like, well, I'll send him the
<v Speaker 4>tape instead. Well, Dave never gets tapes. He's in administration.
<v Speaker 4>He has nothing to do with an R. So Dave
<v Speaker 4>gets a tape. He's like, holy cow, somebody said munt tape.
<v Speaker 2>So he listens to it. He likes it.
<v Speaker 4>So Dave goes to lunch with the head of A
<v Speaker 4>and R. His name is Lenny Warner Cruz and Lenny's like, dude,
<v Speaker 4>I get tapes all day long, every day. Plus we're
<v Speaker 4>not accepting anything new right now. Dave's like, no, dude,
<v Speaker 4>you've got to hear this guy's got a great voice,
<v Speaker 4>and basically insists, and they're in the car and turns
<v Speaker 4>it like push it in. You're listening to this, And
<v Speaker 4>so Lenny listens to it and he's like, yeah, this
<v Speaker 4>guy's got a voice for radio, you know. And he's like,
<v Speaker 4>I'm not really sure about the songs, but his voice
<v Speaker 4>is terrific. He compared him to James Taylor, and so
<v Speaker 4>Lenny goes on later and says, if he would have
<v Speaker 4>sent it to the A and R Department, it would
<v Speaker 4>have been instantly rejected, but instead found a way around.
<v Speaker 2>Brilliant.
<v Speaker 5>That's freaking brilliant, incredible, right, Yeah, that's awesome.
<v Speaker 2>All right.
<v Speaker 4>The next song on the album is a song called
<v Speaker 4>say You'll be Mine?
<v Speaker 2>What do you think?
<v Speaker 1>I dig it?
<v Speaker 5>I dig it too, man. This is Christopher Gross giving
<v Speaker 5>a little gravel to his voice. You know, we talked
<v Speaker 5>about how beautiful it is, but this is like him
<v Speaker 5>getting rushy.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I like it.
<v Speaker 4>This is the number one track off of his first album.
<v Speaker 2>Debut album, Christopher Gross.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think it kind of resembles Jimmy Buffett a
<v Speaker 4>little bit.
<v Speaker 2>It's just kind of a feel good little I hear that.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, now that you say it, I can hear that
<v Speaker 5>for sure. So, speaking of Jimmy Buffett, another thing that
<v Speaker 5>we haven't touched on. Have you noticed that every single
<v Speaker 5>album cover of his has a flamingo on it?
<v Speaker 2>I love it. Yeah, I think it's this cool little style. Yeah.
<v Speaker 5>I think it's just just plain accident, just like you know,
<v Speaker 5>the first one had a flamingo, and he was like,
<v Speaker 5>why not, let's just keep doing that, you know, why
<v Speaker 5>tell me?
<v Speaker 4>So he had a friend who's like, hey, I painted
<v Speaker 4>this picture. I think it looks like your music's sounds.
<v Speaker 4>And so he's like, well, okay, And so they took
<v Speaker 4>it to the record company. They're like, well, what do
<v Speaker 4>you think about this as the album cover? And they
<v Speaker 4>cleaned it up and kind of colored it and made
<v Speaker 4>it look good.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.
<v Speaker 4>But you know, part of the reason why he wasn't
<v Speaker 4>on the cover, he said he didn't He wasn't intentionally
<v Speaker 4>not putting himself out there. But he was a big
<v Speaker 4>guy you.
<v Speaker 2>Know, it's interesting that you say that.
<v Speaker 5>I just want to say this because I always thought
<v Speaker 5>he was a big guy too. But I've looked at him,
<v Speaker 5>looked at him performing back in the eighties. Looking he's tall, right,
<v Speaker 5>and he's I mean, I would describe him as maybe husky, right,
<v Speaker 5>But it's not like he's gargant. I mean, he's not
<v Speaker 5>Frank Black from the Pixie. He's got that big old
<v Speaker 5>belly on him, right. The thing is, though, he's got
<v Speaker 5>that face. He's got the face of a guy who's
<v Speaker 5>pushing three hundred, although he's probably like two fifty or something.
<v Speaker 5>And I mean all respect to the man. Beautiful voice,
<v Speaker 5>incredible talent. He looks kind of like slimer in his face,
<v Speaker 5>you know, I mean, I'm just I'm just saying that.
<v Speaker 2>It's just the truth.
<v Speaker 5>Right now, I have no doubt that this guy gets
<v Speaker 5>any girl he wants to get just by singing to them. So, hey,
<v Speaker 5>you balance things out. I can't sing like him. I
<v Speaker 5>wish I could write.
<v Speaker 4>I've got a great story on his first wife.
<v Speaker 2>Did you hear this story? Come on?
<v Speaker 4>So his first wife, she was eighteen, he was twenty two.
<v Speaker 4>He had known her for two weeks, two weeks, but
<v Speaker 4>he said I was a horny guitar player. That was it, right,
<v Speaker 4>So he got they go to the courthouse to get married. Yeah,
<v Speaker 4>and one of his buddies who's standing in as like
<v Speaker 4>his best man. And it was one of those deals
<v Speaker 4>where the judges said, all right, now I pronounce you
<v Speaker 4>you man and wife or whatever. And his best man said,
<v Speaker 4>this is not.
<v Speaker 1>Going to end. Well, take you.
<v Speaker 2>And guess what it did. It didn't, okay.
<v Speaker 4>In fact, his marriage was falling apart while he's on
<v Speaker 4>this meteoric ascent.
<v Speaker 2>Right, he said, say you'll be mine and she said no, no,
<v Speaker 2>not happened.
<v Speaker 4>By the way, this song reached number twenty on the charts.
<v Speaker 2>Nice, okay, it's kind of a hit.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, all right, okay, we're to a point that we
<v Speaker 5>got to say, it's the song one of the three
<v Speaker 5>that you've been waiting for, right, it's the one.
<v Speaker 2>It's the one. Okay, here we go. Next song on
<v Speaker 2>the album sailing, But.
<v Speaker 7>It's not foun down. He's not holling winds right, sail
<v Speaker 7>the way find the ability.
<v Speaker 4>It's difficult to describe the beauty of this song.
<v Speaker 2>I've heard it hundreds hundreds of times.
<v Speaker 5>I've been singing it in my head for the last
<v Speaker 5>week because we've been covering this album, like it won't
<v Speaker 5>get out of my head. And still when you turn
<v Speaker 5>it on and play it, it makes my heart hurt.
<v Speaker 5>It just I mean, it's just an amazing You've You've
<v Speaker 5>got a twenty eight piece string section coming in at
<v Speaker 5>the beginning, you get this magical wind chime, and just.
<v Speaker 2>It takes you away to where you want to be.
<v Speaker 2>Like he said it, like, how how did you figure
<v Speaker 2>this out?
<v Speaker 4>It's not that far to paradise.
<v Speaker 1>It's gold.
<v Speaker 5>This is just pure gold. Now he says this is
<v Speaker 5>his favorite song off the debut album. Okay, can't blame me, right,
<v Speaker 5>but here's the story on this, right. Yeah, At this
<v Speaker 5>debut album, Warner Brothers, as you mentioned, didn't really like
<v Speaker 5>his songs as much, and so he recorded a song
<v Speaker 5>specifically to be the single that they release. Now, what
<v Speaker 5>they end up doing is releasing ride like the Wind,
<v Speaker 5>because it's got the it's got the four on the floor,
<v Speaker 5>it's got a drive to it, and obviously it does
<v Speaker 5>very well. You mentioned mo ostin they're talking about what's
<v Speaker 5>the next song that is going to get released and
<v Speaker 5>he's he's on tour, you know, so he's talking to
<v Speaker 5>Mostin on the phone and Mostein Mostine says, the next
<v Speaker 5>one we're going to release is Sailing, and Christopher Cross
<v Speaker 5>is like, I don't think that's a good idea. That's
<v Speaker 5>not a that's not a single, that's a that's an
<v Speaker 5>album track, that's not a single. I love the song,
<v Speaker 5>but it's not you shouldn't do it. And Mosting's like, okay,
<v Speaker 5>but that's the next song we're going to release, and
<v Speaker 5>Christopher Cross says, okay, well, I think you're an idiot,
<v Speaker 5>and then there's this long pause and he goes sir.
<v Speaker 5>And it turns out that mo Ostein was the head
<v Speaker 5>of Warner Brothers for a reason, because this is the
<v Speaker 5>first number one song for him.
<v Speaker 2>It's it's just amazing.
<v Speaker 1>It's amazing.
<v Speaker 4>Takes me.
<v Speaker 5>And you and I have been talking like we talked today,
<v Speaker 5>and we talked about the fact that this is you know,
<v Speaker 5>his daughter is a key producer in the yacht Rock documentary,
<v Speaker 5>and you know, it was kind of funny when he
<v Speaker 5>talked about how he made his fifty thousand dollars surplus
<v Speaker 5>selling weed in order to start his music career. He
<v Speaker 5>was like, was that often She's like, no, this is great,
<v Speaker 5>But anyway, yat rock, right, have we said the word yet?
<v Speaker 5>Have we said those two words yet? Okay, So he's
<v Speaker 5>a key part of the documentary. He's obviously a key
<v Speaker 5>part of the scene, the yacht rock scene. And we're
<v Speaker 5>talking to Mike. Is there any way that the term
<v Speaker 5>yacht rock doesn't come from this song? No way, there's
<v Speaker 5>no way, right, I mean, is the epicenter of yachra
<v Speaker 5>it has to be. And I mean I looked at
<v Speaker 5>I looked at yacht rock on the Wikipedia, and it
<v Speaker 5>talks about, you know, beach boys and Sloop John b
<v Speaker 5>and Captain Taneil and all this other stuff. But I
<v Speaker 5>said to you, there's no way that without this song,
<v Speaker 5>that that is that category of music is still called
<v Speaker 5>yacht rock. It's called something else, absolutely right. Yeah, it's
<v Speaker 5>called asia. I don't know what, you know, It's just
<v Speaker 5>it's not going to be called yacht rock except for
<v Speaker 5>this song.
<v Speaker 2>And this is the definitive. You're on the boat, man,
<v Speaker 2>You're on the boat.
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I listen to this song and docksiders appear
<v Speaker 4>in my feet. You know, you know, I've got a
<v Speaker 4>knock salt off my arm.
<v Speaker 5>Okay, so do you know the story behind the song,
<v Speaker 5>Well tell me. It's literally about sailing. Trouble childhood, which
<v Speaker 5>I'll get into a little bit more detail later, but
<v Speaker 5>trouble childhood, and he has a friend who has a
<v Speaker 5>sailboat who's like a kind of a surrogate big brother
<v Speaker 5>for him. He has regular brothers, but this guy was
<v Speaker 5>just kind of there for him whenever he was down,
<v Speaker 5>and he take him out and literally that's where the
<v Speaker 5>words come from. It takes me away, It takes me
<v Speaker 5>away from all of my problems. I can just feel
<v Speaker 5>myself relaxing and being at ease when I'm sailing. Now,
<v Speaker 5>he writes this song about that experience. Fast forward twenty
<v Speaker 5>eight years, he's on the Howard Stern Show and he's
<v Speaker 5>talking Howard Stern and Howard Stern's like, who's the guy?
<v Speaker 5>And he's like, ah, you know, I don't. I don't
<v Speaker 5>really feel comfortable, but Howard Stern is Howard Stern. He's like,
<v Speaker 5>tell me, come on, man, come on, just tell me
<v Speaker 5>tell me his name. Yeah, Push, Push Push, and he's
<v Speaker 5>he's a little embarrassed, and he's because he knows what
<v Speaker 5>Howard Stern's gonna do with this? And he's like, okay,
<v Speaker 5>it's al ol what glass Cock. And of course Stern
<v Speaker 5>is like, oh, I'm gonna go somewhere with this. But
<v Speaker 5>apparently Howard Stern like puts it out there like does
<v Speaker 5>anybody know this Al Glasscock guy? And within minutes somebody's
<v Speaker 5>called like, yeah, I work with him. He gets a
<v Speaker 5>hold of Al glass Cock and he tries to make
<v Speaker 5>a bit out of his weird last name, but the
<v Speaker 5>is just so nice and easy going that even Howard
<v Speaker 5>Stern is just like, yeah, okay, we'll just get we'll.
<v Speaker 2>Make this friendly.
<v Speaker 5>Well now, I'm not going to be a dick, you know,
<v Speaker 5>I just will make this friendly. And he calls up
<v Speaker 5>Christopher Cross. He's like, hey, I found him. Do you
<v Speaker 5>want to talk to him again? And they reunite through
<v Speaker 5>Howard Stern, and ultimately Christopher Cross sends him a copy
<v Speaker 5>of his gold record that he got for this song
<v Speaker 5>that he wrote while on Al glass Cock's sailboat.
<v Speaker 4>That's fantastic, great story, what a great story, what a
<v Speaker 4>great song. I will tell you this about this song. Yeah,
<v Speaker 4>you mentioned the strings at the beginning. Now that totally
<v Speaker 4>capture you right as soon as they start, I'm like, oh,
<v Speaker 4>bracing myself for the beauty that's coming. Total accident.
<v Speaker 1>What Yeah.
<v Speaker 4>So they're mixing it right, okay, and you've got the producer,
<v Speaker 4>You've got Christopher Cross, and you've got Christopher Cross's wife's brother. Okay,
<v Speaker 4>his brother, gotcha, yeah yeah, and they this is back
<v Speaker 4>in the day when you had it like on reels, right. Well,
<v Speaker 4>you know, you've got what you've played, and then you've
<v Speaker 4>got the strings and when you press play, the strings
<v Speaker 4>started before the studio stuff started, so you have this
<v Speaker 4>swell of strings that was supposed to sync up with
<v Speaker 4>the very beginning of the song. But it happened like
<v Speaker 4>twenty seconds in front.
<v Speaker 3>Oh.
<v Speaker 4>And they're sitting there like, oh, whoops, what happened there?
<v Speaker 2>And the brother in law was like, man, that is
<v Speaker 2>so cool.
<v Speaker 4>You guys did that because that is a really neat
<v Speaker 4>way to kind of capture the beauty of that song.
<v Speaker 4>And they're like, I guess it is kind of cool.
<v Speaker 4>And that's why you have the strings in the beginning
<v Speaker 4>of that song.
<v Speaker 2>That's great. It is a great story.
<v Speaker 4>Okay, Just a couple of little tidbits for you on
<v Speaker 4>this song VH one called Sailing the most soft stational
<v Speaker 4>soft rock song of all time. Soft soft stational. It
<v Speaker 4>hits number one August thirtieth, nineteen eighty, number seven on
<v Speaker 4>the Hot one hundred that same week. All out of
<v Speaker 4>Love by Air Supply.
<v Speaker 2>Very good boo.
<v Speaker 5>In case you weren't paying attention, we are comparing Christopher
<v Speaker 5>Cross to check out our next episode on air Supply's
<v Speaker 5>Greatest Hits.
<v Speaker 2>It's coming, Yep, it's coming, all right.
<v Speaker 4>Next song on the album is the Oscar winning song
<v Speaker 4>Arthur Steam.
<v Speaker 2>Best that you can do.
<v Speaker 3>Once in your life. Fire someone to churned your harder around.
<v Speaker 3>Next thing you know your cz down town, wake up minute, Okay.
<v Speaker 5>I genuinely I cannot remember how I had access to
<v Speaker 5>this song. I maybe we had the Arthur soundtrack my house.
<v Speaker 5>I don't remember what it was, but I can tell
<v Speaker 5>you that at six years old, I could not stop
<v Speaker 5>playing the song like I mean, it was my favorite
<v Speaker 5>song of that moment, without a doubt. Loved it, loved it,
<v Speaker 5>and I still think it's great.
<v Speaker 4>It is freaking eighties gold. It is, I mean, it's
<v Speaker 4>Oscar winning gold.
<v Speaker 2>Beautiful piano at the beginning.
<v Speaker 5>I mean, you got a fun movie that goes along
<v Speaker 5>with it, which I mean, if you can't laugh at
<v Speaker 5>being an alcoholic and a dark driver, what else can
<v Speaker 5>you laugh about?
<v Speaker 2>And you and I will say this.
<v Speaker 5>You mentioned as a cinematic sin in one of our
<v Speaker 5>group texts that you have not seen Arthur yet.
<v Speaker 2>I haven't seen it either. Really, I feel like we
<v Speaker 2>got to. Maybe we should do.
<v Speaker 5>That reaction video for that'd be fun. Yeah, but yeah,
<v Speaker 5>Dudley Moore and e Liza Minnelli, who also is a
<v Speaker 5>factor in the writing of this song.
<v Speaker 4>Right, the creation of this song is so unbelievable. If
<v Speaker 4>it weren't true, you would not believe it, right, Okay.
<v Speaker 4>This song is written by Burt Bachracht, Yes, I mean huge, famous,
<v Speaker 4>great musician, great songwriter. Yes, along with Christopher Cross. Yes,
<v Speaker 4>of course, I mean Burt Bachracht. He did the score
<v Speaker 4>for Arthur, so he got together with Christopher Cross. They
<v Speaker 4>wrote this song along with a woman named Carol Bayer Sager.
<v Speaker 2>Who ultimately would marry Burke Backrack.
<v Speaker 4>Yes, yep, okay. And then a guy named Peter Allen.
<v Speaker 5>Peter Allen and Carol Baker Sager beer Seger wrote songs together. Yes,
<v Speaker 5>they did the line Caught Between the Moon and New
<v Speaker 5>York City actually comes from another song that they did together.
<v Speaker 5>It comes from Peter Allen being stuck up in the
<v Speaker 5>air over John F. Kennedy Airport and it's nighttime. He's
<v Speaker 5>literally stuck between the moon and New York City. Yeah,
<v Speaker 5>but what a great poetic line, right, So listen to this, Okay?
<v Speaker 4>So, yes, that line does come from a previously unreleased song. Yeah,
<v Speaker 4>and it's it's really cool. It's it's got that something there.
<v Speaker 4>There's something that she something, right, So listen to this
<v Speaker 4>sticky sticky, it's sticky. According to flight attendant Susan Lena,
<v Speaker 4>she said, Peter Allen was on my flight and when
<v Speaker 4>he was deplaning, he said to me, you have inspired
<v Speaker 4>me to write a song and you will know it
<v Speaker 4>when you hear it.
<v Speaker 2>I love that. How about?
<v Speaker 4>How cool is that?
<v Speaker 3>So?
<v Speaker 2>Peter Allen, Liza Minelli's husband, former husband, was it? Yeah?
<v Speaker 5>I guess yes, very And then I'm quoting Wikipedia here.
<v Speaker 5>Flamboyant performer on stage and he after I and Liza
<v Speaker 5>split up, he became partners with the man. Tragically, they
<v Speaker 5>both died of age related cancer with I think within
<v Speaker 5>eight months of each other or something like that. But
<v Speaker 5>he and Carol Bayer Sager had written songs together, but
<v Speaker 5>she ends up doing more with Burt Backerack, right.
<v Speaker 2>That's right, And so what did they do together?
<v Speaker 4>So Burt backeract and Carol Beyer Sager have written a
<v Speaker 4>couple of songs, okay, a couple of number one hits.
<v Speaker 2>Okay.
<v Speaker 4>One of them is a song called on my Own
<v Speaker 4>Patti LaBelle, who we've talked about in the Beverly Hills
<v Speaker 4>Cops soundtrack. Yes, and Michael McDonald of course, of course,
<v Speaker 4>right right. And they also wrote That's what Friends Are For.
<v Speaker 2>Oh wow, that's great.
<v Speaker 4>Warwick, Yeah, Elton John, Stevie Wonder and Gladys Knight. Oh okay,
<v Speaker 4>number one hit in eighty six.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's a good one. Nice, I like it.
<v Speaker 4>I hate to leave this song so quickly, but it
<v Speaker 4>is so good.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, but we can't get stuck here. Yeah, you say,
<v Speaker 5>maybe we can talk more when we do our reaction
<v Speaker 5>video to Arthur.
<v Speaker 4>Okay, before we move on to the next song. I've
<v Speaker 4>got a little tidbit. I just want to buy you
<v Speaker 4>real quick, okay, Okay. One of the Grammys that Christopher
<v Speaker 4>Cross one that night in nineteen eighty one was Best
<v Speaker 4>New Artist. I don't know if you've heard, but there's
<v Speaker 4>kind of a stigma around the Best New Artist Grammy. Okay, okay,
<v Speaker 4>so there for a while they've talked about the Best
<v Speaker 4>New Artist curse. Okay, right, Yeah, and Christopher Cross is
<v Speaker 4>one of the victims of that curse.
<v Speaker 5>Well, I mean, when you have that big of a
<v Speaker 5>showing on your debut album, there's nowhere else to go
<v Speaker 5>but down.
<v Speaker 4>That's true.
<v Speaker 2>That's true. So here you go.
<v Speaker 4>Here's my case for the curse, and then I'll give
<v Speaker 4>you a case against the curse. Okay, so the case
<v Speaker 4>for the curse. In nineteen seventy seven, you have the
<v Speaker 4>Starlight Vocal Band Best New.
<v Speaker 2>Artist, Never heard of them.
<v Speaker 4>Nineteen seventy nine, you have a Taste of Honey.
<v Speaker 2>That's the name of the band. Yeah, I don't know.
<v Speaker 4>The song you might know is boogie ugy ugy Okay.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.
<v Speaker 4>Nineteen eighty one you have Christopher Cross.
<v Speaker 2>Get this.
<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna blow your socks off with this.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.
<v Speaker 4>Nineteen ninety of course, you have the infamous Millie Vanilli.
<v Speaker 2>I knew that one was. Yeah.
<v Speaker 4>Nineteen sixty one Grammy for Best New Musical artist Bob Newhart.
<v Speaker 2>What Bob freaking new Heart? Wow, that's crazy, right, okay.
<v Speaker 4>So all right, here's my case against Mariah Carey, Alicia Keys, Adele,
<v Speaker 4>Billie Eilish, and the Beatles.
<v Speaker 5>Well, those are all pretty good. They were not cursed, right,
<v Speaker 5>all right?
<v Speaker 4>Last tidbit for Arthur. Okay, I've never seen Arthur. I've
<v Speaker 4>never seen Arthur two.
<v Speaker 2>Right, okay.
<v Speaker 4>Arthur two was released the summer of nineteen eighty eight.
<v Speaker 2>Okay.
<v Speaker 4>It was released one week before maybe the best movie
<v Speaker 4>of the nineteen eighties.
<v Speaker 2>It was released one week before Die Hard.
<v Speaker 4>Before die Hard, Oh Wow. Okay, And it was released
<v Speaker 4>two weeks before maybe the worst movie of the nineteen eighties,
<v Speaker 4>Caddy shak Too.
<v Speaker 2>There we go, Summer of eighty eight. Let's go al right,
<v Speaker 2>next song on the album any Old Time.
<v Speaker 7>Everyone Twice's Friends.
<v Speaker 5>All due respect to people who love this song, this
<v Speaker 5>does not belong on the greatest album This's Gotta go. Yeah,
<v Speaker 5>this is a replacement song. Okay, so fair agree our degree? Okay,
<v Speaker 5>you're giving me a very repetitious chorus to start.
<v Speaker 2>The song clock it was yeah, it was yeah, not good.
<v Speaker 4>That song was originally written for Barbara streisand by the way, okay, okay,
<v Speaker 4>what are you replacing it with. We're bringing in the
<v Speaker 4>right hander, We're bringing in think of Laura.
<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, everyone in.
<v Speaker 4>Turn Madday, think of Laura. Number nine hit not on
<v Speaker 4>this Greatest Hits albul that's an odd choice. Okay, beautiful,
<v Speaker 4>top ten hit from nineteen eighty three.
<v Speaker 1>Love it.
<v Speaker 2>Check your bingo card.
<v Speaker 4>This is the second episode in a row that we're
<v Speaker 4>going to talk about Anthony Gary, Luke and Laura.
<v Speaker 5>Can you believe that it's weird? I would not have
<v Speaker 5>expected that to come up, Yes, in a row, even
<v Speaker 5>in a row.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.
<v Speaker 5>So, if you missed our last couple of episodes, we
<v Speaker 5>compared Pee Wee's Big Adventure two UHF Filo. The mad
<v Speaker 5>scientist in UHF is played by Anthony Gary. Anthony Gary
<v Speaker 5>is also known as Luke from General Hospital, whose name
<v Speaker 5>that comes along with him in all circumstances is Laura.
<v Speaker 5>Right now, this song is not about her, right, but
<v Speaker 5>CBS decided to go ahead and use it anyway.
<v Speaker 4>That's right, they did. Yeah, tell me the story.
<v Speaker 5>So this song is about This is about a girl
<v Speaker 5>that was a roommate of one of Christopher Cross's girlfriends
<v Speaker 5>who is a lacrosse player. I mean she was sitting
<v Speaker 5>in the back of the car with her had been
<v Speaker 5>with her family for homecoming at the college that they
<v Speaker 5>were going to. This is a girlfriend's roommate and there's
<v Speaker 5>some gang gunfire and she gets killed.
<v Speaker 2>It's just tragic, like she's sitting.
<v Speaker 4>In the back of her father's car and gets hit
<v Speaker 4>by a stray bullet.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and so it's just this horrible circumstance. Christopher Cross
<v Speaker 5>writes this tribute song for her, and and and says,
<v Speaker 5>you know, because he knew her, and he's like, when
<v Speaker 5>you think of Laura, laughed, don't cry, because that's what
<v Speaker 5>she would want. Is this really moving circumstance. And they
<v Speaker 5>decide to use it to promote General Hospital's plot line
<v Speaker 5>where Laura has disappeared and they're trying to find her.
<v Speaker 5>Bad taste on top of bad taste, Man, that's really terrible.
<v Speaker 4>So the interesting thing to me is he goes to
<v Speaker 4>her family and says, listen, I wrote this song.
<v Speaker 2>It's a tribute to her.
<v Speaker 4>Would you be offended if I put it on my album?
<v Speaker 2>And they said no.
<v Speaker 4>I mean if it gives solace to somebody else, then
<v Speaker 4>that's great, you should do that. Yeah, so he puts
<v Speaker 4>it out there on the album. Well Tony Gary, Anthony
<v Speaker 4>Gary is a fan of the song, and he's trying
<v Speaker 4>to think of a way to bring the actress who
<v Speaker 4>played Laura, who broke away to do films, try to
<v Speaker 4>bring her back.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.
<v Speaker 4>And back in these days, if you only played a
<v Speaker 4>short amount of the song, you didn't have to pay royalties, right,
<v Speaker 4>and so they're just like, oh, great, scoop that song up.
<v Speaker 2>And they did it over and over again too. Yeah
<v Speaker 2>it's terrible. Yep. He was not happy. He has openly
<v Speaker 2>said this is not.
<v Speaker 4>Okay, not what I intended.
<v Speaker 2>That's right. Now, I played you another song, right, yeah
<v Speaker 2>he did. Okay.
<v Speaker 5>So here's this one so beautiful cover. This is boys
<v Speaker 5>to Men. This song is called think of Aliyah. Remember Aliyah?
<v Speaker 5>I do so Aliyah if you don't remember, she was
<v Speaker 5>on Star Shirt when she was about twelve, sang with
<v Speaker 5>Gladys Knight. Weird that she would come up twice in
<v Speaker 5>one episode here and then.
<v Speaker 2>I have to mention this.
<v Speaker 5>I'm reading her history and I'm like, her first album
<v Speaker 5>is produced by R. Kelly, and I'm like ooh, And
<v Speaker 5>then I see that. The name of the album is
<v Speaker 5>age is just a number, and I'm like ooh, And
<v Speaker 5>then I'm like, holy crap. They were married what nineteen
<v Speaker 5>ninety four, she would have been fourteen maybe fifteen years old.
<v Speaker 5>What it ultimately was annulled because it probably was an
<v Speaker 5>illegal marriage? Of course, How did people not get the
<v Speaker 5>red flags back in the mid nineties when that happened. Wow, dude, Yeah,
<v Speaker 5>very weird, very weird. But I mean justice comes slowly,
<v Speaker 5>I guess.
<v Speaker 2>Anyway.
<v Speaker 5>She moves on from that and is doing very well.
<v Speaker 5>I mean, she's got a lot of great songs, and
<v Speaker 5>she's in this movie called Queen of the Damned. And
<v Speaker 5>then tragically she's down in the Caribbean and is on
<v Speaker 5>a is on a plane that they have improperly loaded,
<v Speaker 5>and it crashes almost immediately after taking off. The pilot
<v Speaker 5>is found to have had cocaine and alcohol in his
<v Speaker 5>system and was not licensed to fly that kind of plane. Tragically,
<v Speaker 5>she is killed. And so Boys to Men releases this
<v Speaker 5>cover of Think of Laura as Think of Aliyah.
<v Speaker 4>Love it Yeah, beautiful song.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay.
<v Speaker 4>Next song on the album, It's Trying the Snake. I
<v Speaker 4>love this song, Dad. This is like in my undiscovered
<v Speaker 4>Christopher Cross hit right here.
<v Speaker 2>That's a great one. Yeah, and this is a little
<v Speaker 2>bit later on. Was this eighty five?
<v Speaker 4>Eighty five Surprises didn't make more of a noise?
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean it did, okay, it did okay. But
<v Speaker 2>did you see the video for this?
<v Speaker 4>I did.
<v Speaker 5>Did you think of Top Gun or Days of Thunder?
<v Speaker 5>Because I saw it. I mean you got that that
<v Speaker 5>golden sunset and for shrepping that, I mean they're what
<v Speaker 5>they're doing is they're doing drag car racing instead of
<v Speaker 5>you know, aircraft carrier landing the jets.
<v Speaker 2>But it's that same style.
<v Speaker 5>I had the pretty girl cheer in for him, and
<v Speaker 5>it turns out it's not Tony Scott as its fatter.
<v Speaker 5>Matter of fact, Tony Scott wouldn't have that footage until
<v Speaker 5>the next year's eighty six, that's right. But it was
<v Speaker 5>directed by David Fincher. Yeah, wow, Yeah, And it's not
<v Speaker 5>his style that I'm familiar with, but shoot, he knew
<v Speaker 5>what he was doing.
<v Speaker 2>Man, it's a pretty cool video.
<v Speaker 4>That's pre Alien three, yes, pre by Club pre seven.
<v Speaker 2>It's probably pre Rock the Cradle of Love. Actually, yeah,
<v Speaker 2>it is pre Rock the Cradle of Love Ye pre vogue.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so, directed by David Fincher Christopher Cross racing race cars,
<v Speaker 4>which he had a hobby of doing.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, not these exact type of cars, but these cars
<v Speaker 5>looked cooler. So, and he was kind of excited to
<v Speaker 5>do it too.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's fun. Yeah.
<v Speaker 4>Do you know who sings background vocals on this? Richard Marks?
<v Speaker 2>Of course, of course.
<v Speaker 4>I love the song. I think it's great. Next song
<v Speaker 4>on the album, ye, all right. Every Turn of the
<v Speaker 4>World is the title track and lead single off his
<v Speaker 4>third album, which had a little more rock to it.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I like this song. I think it's good.
<v Speaker 5>Yes, this is Okay again, it's kind of a rocker.
<v Speaker 5>This is him, Yeah, getting after it a bit.
<v Speaker 4>Reach never forty four in the hot one Hunter didn't
<v Speaker 4>quite crack the top forty.
<v Speaker 2>Still a good song, still a charting song. I like
<v Speaker 2>it worth of those all right.
<v Speaker 4>Final song on the album, Yeah, it's a song called
<v Speaker 4>that Girl.
<v Speaker 2>I think we found our last song to replace Yes, okay.
<v Speaker 4>All right, I'm coming in strong with the song never
<v Speaker 4>Be the Same Okay, which was the third single off
<v Speaker 4>of the first album Okay. So. This song peaked at
<v Speaker 4>number fifteen in nineteen eighty. This is when Christopher Cross
<v Speaker 4>is still rolling through all these hits off that first album.
<v Speaker 4>I think it's a great song.
<v Speaker 2>I love it.
<v Speaker 5>Okay, So I didn't really go into the history. It
<v Speaker 5>seems like a weird place to give the beginning at
<v Speaker 5>the end here, But let me just say so. Christopher
<v Speaker 5>Cross bounced from place to place, bounced from Texas to
<v Speaker 5>Japan back to Texas again. His dad was in the army.
<v Speaker 5>He was actually a pediatrician, took care of Dwight D.
<v Speaker 5>Eisenhower's grandchildren. Yeah, that's right, David and Julia Eisenhower.
<v Speaker 2>I'm guessing.
<v Speaker 5>But his dad had also been a musician. Played this
<v Speaker 5>double bass four you ready for this?
<v Speaker 2>Lauren's welk.
<v Speaker 5>And I mean, there's a lot of comedy associated with
<v Speaker 5>Lawrence Walke, but Lawrence Walk was Lawrence Walk for.
<v Speaker 2>A reason, right, That's not nothing.
<v Speaker 5>And his dad was an incredibly bad alcoholic, ultimately passed
<v Speaker 5>away from cirrhosis of the liver. But there were these
<v Speaker 5>moments where he would put on a Glenn Miller album.
<v Speaker 5>His dad would put on the Glenn Miller album, He'd
<v Speaker 5>get out his double bass and he'd play along it
<v Speaker 5>and he said, in those moments, that would be when
<v Speaker 5>I saw joy in my dad's face. Right, yeah, just
<v Speaker 5>not happy all of his life except for those little moments.
<v Speaker 5>And he even referred to it as just the happiest
<v Speaker 5>time in his life was when he was playing music.
<v Speaker 5>So Christopher Cross is like kind of captivated by this
<v Speaker 5>idea that music can make you happier. He's having obviously
<v Speaker 5>a tough time too, and he goes to the music
<v Speaker 5>store and he's like, listen, my dad loves Glenn Miller.
<v Speaker 5>I love listening to it. Do you have something that's
<v Speaker 5>like that but for somebody my age? And he brings
<v Speaker 5>him Dave Brewbag Time Out, which if you listen to it,
<v Speaker 5>it's freaking amazing, Okay, And Christopher Cross listens to it
<v Speaker 5>and he is transfixed by the drums, and so he
<v Speaker 5>asked his parents for drums and they get him a
<v Speaker 5>drum set, and so for his first band, which I
<v Speaker 5>believe was called the Psychos, he played the drums and
<v Speaker 5>sang because everybody else was too chicken to sing, that's right.
<v Speaker 5>And he said they used to play at makeout parties,
<v Speaker 5>which is basically like the parents hosted a party, not
<v Speaker 5>realizing that all the kids were in like closets and
<v Speaker 5>back rooms making out with each other, right, and paid
<v Speaker 5>them fifty bucks for playing music. And so then he
<v Speaker 5>joins another band called Flash. This time he's playing playing guitar,
<v Speaker 5>is getting into the rock and roll scene a little
<v Speaker 5>bit more, and he ends up going to hate Ashbury
<v Speaker 5>in like the late sixties when all the counterculture is
<v Speaker 5>happening over there comes back to the high school with
<v Speaker 5>long hair, and on the Wikipedia page, it will tell
<v Speaker 5>you that he graduated from the high school in like
<v Speaker 5>sixty nine. No, he did not, right, and we did not.
<v Speaker 5>He came in and the principal was like, you're not
<v Speaker 5>coming to school with hair that long, and he said,
<v Speaker 5>then I guess I'm not coming to the school.
<v Speaker 1>He left.
<v Speaker 2>Now he still played at their prom.
<v Speaker 1>Then he really he did.
<v Speaker 4>That's crazy, and he was he was voted.
<v Speaker 5>Like most creative or something like that. So it's you know,
<v Speaker 5>they still kind of Now here's the rest of the
<v Speaker 5>story on that one. Many years later, he's got all
<v Speaker 5>these attorney friends who used to sell weed two.
<v Speaker 2>Back in the seventies, right, and they're like, we're.
<v Speaker 5>Getting you this high school diploma, and they did it.
<v Speaker 5>They got a hold of the school. They worked their
<v Speaker 5>magic whatever they do, and he received an honorary high
<v Speaker 5>school diploma.
<v Speaker 2>That's fantastic. Yeah, that's great.
<v Speaker 4>All right, Well that wraps up. Christopher Cross. Okay, I've
<v Speaker 4>got one last thing I want to tell you about. Okay,
<v Speaker 4>we break for air supply next Weekay. Have you heard
<v Speaker 4>about the woodstock of yacht Rock. No, apparently this is
<v Speaker 4>happening at the end of this year in Cabo San Lucas,
<v Speaker 4>Cabo Wabo. Yeah right, yeah yeah, Christopher Cross, Kenny Loggins,
<v Speaker 4>Alan Parsons, Ambrosia, Rick Springfield. There's all sorts of big name.
<v Speaker 2>Not Steely Dan because they would not be assistant.
<v Speaker 4>Like freaking screw you, guys. But they're having this big
<v Speaker 4>festival in Mexico.
<v Speaker 1>Would be awesome.
<v Speaker 4>I mean, are you kidding me.
<v Speaker 2>Let's find a way to go. I would love to
<v Speaker 2>go to that. That would be awesome.
<v Speaker 5>All right, guys, thank you so much for joining us
<v Speaker 5>for this soft rock Master. Come back next week when
<v Speaker 5>we talk about air supply. Making love out of nothing.
<v Speaker 4>We're all out of love.
<v Speaker 2>Oh man. Okay, thanks guys, see you guys next week.
<v Speaker 4>Thanks guys,