Jess & Spencer Part 2: Pickle Traditions and Dishing Advice | Golden Hour
Today on “Golden Hour,” we’re back for part two with Jess and Spencer! We kick things off by getting into their first holiday season together! From beautiful dinners to pickle traditions, the two are blending lives and telling us all about it. Then, the lovely couple helps dish out some advice to our listeners! Jess and Spencer weigh in on single culture, putting yourself out there to find a partner, and the key to not settling. Tune in now to hear all this and more, and be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode!
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00:00:08 Speaker 1: Hi everyone, and welcome back to Golden Hour. We're here for part two with Jess and Spencer. Let's get into it. 00:00:18 Speaker 2: How about the holidays? Did you get to spend those together? We did? 00:00:22 Speaker 3: We did? Yeah, Yeah, it was amazing. 00:00:24 Speaker 4: We actually a family tradition of hers is going to the biltmore that. 00:00:32 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's beautiful, beautiful. 00:00:36 Speaker 3: Yeah, so I like, sign up for next year. 00:00:39 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm I'm like, I love houses in real estate, Like me and my mom would walk neighborhoods and just look at houses. 00:00:47 Speaker 3: Sometimes I'm like, you love this one. 00:00:50 Speaker 4: So it was fun and we got to do this Eve and we actually drove we loved Dallas to Tennessee, stayed for about nine days, was it? 00:01:01 Speaker 1: Yeah? 00:01:02 Speaker 4: Nine days? Did Christmas Eve in Tennessee? Christmas Eve? Was it day that we drove? It was Christmas Day. We drove back to Dallas. All my family was here, my brothers flew in, and we had the rest of our Christmas part two here in Dallas. 00:01:17 Speaker 3: And we did that living in Salt Lake with his dad and brothers. 00:01:21 Speaker 1: So what traditions do you guys? I mean, that sounds like a great tradition to or a great holiday this year. What traditions. Do you guys want to start? Have you started any yet? 00:01:33 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're going ahead. 00:01:36 Speaker 4: I love My family does not have a ton of traditions. One tradition that her family has, would you like to tell them about the pickle present? 00:01:45 Speaker 3: Oh, that's funny. It's actually a German tradition. 00:01:49 Speaker 4: I don't know. 00:01:51 Speaker 3: And so we started doing this tradition where you have a pickle ornament and you hide it in the tree and what it's supposed to be like whoever finds the pickle gets the pickle present. But like, I'm an only child, so I always want the pickle. 00:02:07 Speaker 4: What was your best present? The best present, the best present? 00:02:11 Speaker 3: So I mean I always got it. 00:02:14 Speaker 4: If we had done that in my family, there would be bloodshed. 00:02:17 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, that's definitely something that we're going to do for I guess, for each other when we have kids. One day. 00:02:26 Speaker 1: Hold on, let me explain something to you. You can't give each other pickle presents when you have children. Your children have to have it. No, no, no, and then they're going there and then bloodshed. 00:02:44 Speaker 4: Yeah. I just like the pickle present tradition. That's one that I like. I like that for a whole lot and we didn't have a ton of traditions, so I'm just like globbing onto all of her. Yes, now you have line, so. 00:02:56 Speaker 2: Maybe you can bring your mom suspense to the Biltmore. 00:03:00 Speaker 4: That's she would love. 00:03:02 Speaker 3: Yeah, she wants to come to Tennessee. So about she is my The town that I'm from is so small and like I've shown her pictures and we have this thing in the fall, the first weekend in October every year called the Apple Festival, and so his mom really wants to go to the Apple Festival this year. Unfortunately, it's literally the weekend before the Chicago Marathon. So I'm not sure we're gonna make it, but maybe she'll just go and she can go. 00:03:29 Speaker 2: Take it up to with the Builtmore. 00:03:31 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:03:32 Speaker 1: Wait, I don't understand when you went to the billbohere, you don't stay there, right, no. 00:03:37 Speaker 4: No no, no, no no no. Although they do have like they have a spell on they do on site and it's like a whole. 00:03:43 Speaker 3: But oh yeah, the winder and I was d drove us home. It was great. 00:03:52 Speaker 1: Yes, it sounds like so funny. I want to do it. 00:03:55 Speaker 4: Why don't you come with next time? 00:03:58 Speaker 1: I thought you never asked? 00:04:00 Speaker 4: You all be there tasty. You guys have a grand old time, and I'll just get everyone back home. 00:04:05 Speaker 2: Yeah, that sounds like a plan. And you have to tell me when you're going to Austin because I'll come down. 00:04:10 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, we need to plan over do I say it over? 00:04:15 Speaker 1: Down? 00:04:16 Speaker 3: It's like it's down and over. 00:04:18 Speaker 1: You know what, who cares as long as we all end up in the same place, exactly right, exactly? Okay. So now we're going to get into our advice portion. And I recently had something happen and I think you, Spencer and Jess would have a really interesting perspective on it. So you're ready to listen and tell us things. Yeah, I did. So I was out of town recently and I went into this restaurant and uh, the woman, the maid or d the hostess whatever, recognized me and she said, I love you so much. You're just I mean, she just made me feel like a million bucks. She said, I love you the you give you give everyone such a positive outlook on life. My daughter is really going through a tough time and I would And so I said, well, plot your phone. I'll you know, I'll do a quick video for her. And so I did. And she goes, would you talk to her on the phone. So YEP, dialed her up, talked to her on the phone, and she is about your guys age. She has been married a few years, more than a few years, I guess, because she has a I think a two year old child. Her name is Ashley, and she's finishing up her PhD in June. And she said to me, I'm really struggling because I'm married, I have a full time career. I'm trying to balance life with this toddler and my marriage. And she said, I'm struggling, you know, to find myself, to find this balance. And you know, I'd had a couple of drinks at that point. So I'm not exactly sure what I told her, but I'll tell you what I told her. At first. I'm curious, what would your advice be to her? 00:06:07 Speaker 3: Oh, you know what, I've been, not obviously in that exact scenario, but I think both of us have been in scenarios where we've definitely lost ourselves. And I think that it's just so important for one and like what we've done is like we've had to communicate what we need from each other. I think that's so important to be able to be open and honest with your partner like hey, I am feeling really overwhelmed right now, like I need you to do this, this and this. And I will say Spencer is so good at like trying to find a solution, whereas sometimes I am I will like dwell on like the negativity of the moment, and so I don't know if it's so much advice is just like I'm very grateful to have someone who like will be like, Hey, we're not going to do that, We're going to find a solution. What do you need from me? What can I help? Like Literally this happened like a couple of days ago. I came in. I was just like not having a good day. I have some family stuff going on, and he's like, what do you need? Baby? Like what can I help you do? And he like finished unloading all the groceries Like it's just like little things like that, and I'm like, oh, thank you. I think it's just showing support and over communicating what you need from your partner. 00:07:24 Speaker 4: And I would say, I think it's very important that in whatever relationship you have, you retain something that's for you. Yes, for me, that's like going to work out, going to the gym for her. She really likes to paint and do that. 00:07:40 Speaker 3: I love it. 00:07:41 Speaker 4: I love a hobby, like a little hobby, and so it's nice to always have something that's yours. And I think that you know a lot of people if you're stretched thin on time. If you went on your phone and looked at your screen time for social media, you would find about three four hours a day there. I think that could be yeah, I think that could be cut down by an hour, hour and a half. And whether it be reading a book, like going to a fitness class, finding a nice little hobby, I think having something for yourself, because if you don't give to yourself, it's tough to give to a relationship. 00:08:20 Speaker 2: Because we all do ourselves very thin, and to have some alone time absolutely critical. It has to be actually find yourself time. 00:08:31 Speaker 3: Make us an extra long steamy shower with some. 00:08:34 Speaker 2: Yes that's soaking, a bubble ba, lock the door, you know's it's important. 00:08:39 Speaker 4: That's some advice I got from my mom when she was talking about dealing with having four sons and a full time job and nothing for herself. So being able to give into yourself a little bit and find the time to make that happen. I think even though you may be hard pressed to find the time, I think there's a way to find the time. And sometimes it's easy to rely on the excuse of there's no time, there's no time, instead of the reality of you have to make the time, you know, which is. 00:09:10 Speaker 2: Easy of difference. And you're so fortunate just that he can hear you and you can vent a lot of couples the other partner don't like the venting. It's all that negativity. They can't handle it. So consider yourself, people. 00:09:28 Speaker 3: He helps me be more positive, honestly, like he really, I'm. 00:09:32 Speaker 2: All about that. So I tell Kathy every day. 00:09:34 Speaker 1: Yeah no, no, Susan, Susan, there is no such thing. There could be a hurricane coming through her living room. And she's like, yeah, that's not positivity. There's another word for that, Susan. 00:09:48 Speaker 4: I feel you, you and I think. 00:09:51 Speaker 2: The best, think the best. My cousin, she's always no matter what, I'll say something and she'll go, yeah, but oh my god, why did you think of the worst possible scenario? Yeah, she goes, would you look through rose colored glasses? As Kathy once said, you can live in Susan's world all you want nobody else. 00:10:14 Speaker 1: Well, I think positivity is a great thing, and I think all this are positive people. First of all, I want to congratulate both of you that you have such insight and such love for each other that you can really think about those things and talk to each other and share your thoughts. It just shows that you guys have such a strong relationship. The other thing I told her, and I hope I would give this advice to you guys too. You're not going to do everything perfectly. You're not going to be perfect for each other. Your job is going to be perfect, your children will not be perfect. You can't do you can't give one hundred percent to each thing in your life. Some days you only have seven percent to give and you got to divide it up. And that's what I told her, isn't don't be so hard on yourself some days trying to do it all. Just can't do it all. Let the laundry go, spend time with your partner, spend time reading with your children. Those are things you don't get back in time. And you know what, so I think that's great. 00:11:19 Speaker 2: You're right, You're right, And I never used to do that. I spread myself then always you still be tasking at it rest. Now that I'm getting older, it's more difficult, you know, And you got to be a little selfish for you. 00:11:34 Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure. 00:11:35 Speaker 4: Well, if you're selfish, I think you end up everyone else ends up reaping the benefits of you feeling better about everything that you have going on. I know that if I don't get my gym time, I'm a. 00:11:54 Speaker 3: I'm like, I know. 00:11:56 Speaker 2: Let me tell you, if you go to Austin, bring sneakers, Jess, because when I get the catch, we're walking the lake now rail trail. 00:12:05 Speaker 1: So they just spencer when you guys come. Susan's right, she came and I made her walk. She did great because Susan's on a big walker, and I will say she did a great job. But they just finished the trail and I'm gonna probably probably not Susan. I believe it's eleven miles now I'm going to do it. It's the connected. 00:12:25 Speaker 4: Allah, let's grab a coffee, let's go on a walk. 00:12:27 Speaker 1: I will absolutely eleven miles. 00:12:30 Speaker 2: We'll do five, Jess, and then we'll go back and make some discussion. 00:12:34 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, they all cooked for us. And you know, we'll have worked off the calories and we come home and up a nice big lunch, and. 00:12:43 Speaker 3: Me and Susan will be popping some champagne waiting for you some we might go shop. 00:12:49 Speaker 1: Just gonna say, if you know Susan. She they all came, I don't if you all know this. Nancy and Joan and Susan came to visit me, and I wanted to take him on the walk around the lake, and I wanted to show them the Capitol, and I wanted to take them up to the restaurant that has a viewel like travel. 00:13:05 Speaker 3: Don't you remember you were sending me voice memos? We were, we were, we were. 00:13:09 Speaker 2: Talking every time we went by a structure. She goes, look, did you recognize it? 00:13:15 Speaker 1: That's all they wanted to shop, So Spencer, you and I were doing it. 00:13:21 Speaker 2: Done and they picked the meal. Kathy not can I tell them about food shopping? She's like panicking us. I got there first. She's like, I don't cook. I said, I got you, I got you, but we have to go food shopping. Yeah, this girl was like a fish out of water. 00:13:37 Speaker 1: I just I just think the grocery store is for people who don't have a life. 00:13:42 Speaker 4: Do you use a lot of uber eats? 00:13:45 Speaker 3: Doesn't I do eat? 00:13:47 Speaker 1: But I very simple thing. 00:13:48 Speaker 4: Well that's another way to do. 00:13:50 Speaker 3: She's an almond mom for sure. 00:13:52 Speaker 1: I see really simple things, you know, scrambled eggs, piece of toast, a salad, and a slice of turnkey. 00:14:00 Speaker 2: I mean, we're supposed to make the chicken at night, and we ended up with all these orders we had and we weren't hungry. So she goes, now you better eat this food. You better make this because it's gonna go bad. She made I made up for breakfast. 00:14:14 Speaker 1: She did. She made me buy one of those things like seven dollars a jar. What those little things called capers? 00:14:20 Speaker 3: That's what goes on? 00:14:21 Speaker 2: Capers? 00:14:22 Speaker 1: Really, you gotta spend money on capers. Seriously, I'd rather have a new goners. Do you buy capers, you guys? 00:14:34 Speaker 4: I buy capers from time to time when certain meal calls. 00:14:40 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, okay, Well we like the cook So. 00:14:45 Speaker 4: After the walk, here's what will happen. I'll go and Susan and I will start cooking. Yes, I'm on double duty. I'll just switch you off. I go hang out a lot. 00:14:56 Speaker 1: I could say, just what you're gonna do. I've been growing my hair and I need you to teach me how to use a curly nine. 00:15:02 Speaker 3: I can do that. 00:15:04 Speaker 2: We'll cook, shower, and then Jessa and I are going to shop and Okay, now we want to get to your take on some of our most asked questions. This was the part about dating. Okay, I'll go first, Jess, what advice do you have for single women when it comes to not settling? 00:15:31 Speaker 3: Ooh, that's a really good one. 00:15:33 Speaker 2: It's a hard one, honestly, it is. 00:15:36 Speaker 3: Honestly, I'm not gonna lie. I My picker was off for a while, so I feel like there's definitely been scenarios, Like not every single guy that I've been on dates with or you know whatever was horrible. The majority of them were, but not all of them. I think that there was just things that like until meetings spin through, like I did not realize like these were not big asks like these were. I almost felt awkward, Like when he's like opening the door for me and he is like asking all these little things about me and my family, and like just I just literally caring, Like I just have never had someone actually care so much about all these little intricate things things that like I feel like I probably haven't even thought up about myself before, and he like asked us because he wanted to know, and I don't know. I just think that you if you're sitting and you're questioning like moments like oh well, I guess it's because this that and the other I I this is Yes, when you find yourself making those excuses, it's like, no, no, you shouldn't have to make excuses for anyone. Of course, like everyone has their bad days and like like said earlier, like no one's perfect. There's always gonna be things. But I think the huge thing is like is your partner being understanding? Is the person you're dating being understanding? Like if you're having a moment, are they like, oh well, okay, good luck to yeah, or are they like trying to find ways to support you? Like that was one thing that Yeah, I was not used to that, and I was like, wow, there's people that do that. 00:17:26 Speaker 1: I love it all right. 00:17:27 Speaker 2: So what you're saying, you're telling women dating if something doesn't feel right, it isn't it's going to don't sell. 00:17:37 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like if you have to bring up these things multiple times and you're seeing no effort in them trying to make it better than like there, that's your They don't. 00:17:46 Speaker 1: That's your Yeah, they don't care. 00:17:49 Speaker 2: It's like you and I going on the date and they never asked you one thing about you. 00:17:54 Speaker 3: They talk about themselves. 00:17:55 Speaker 2: It's like, when is this going to be? 00:17:59 Speaker 1: We're gonna do You'll have to tune in, sous and I'm going to do a whole episode on dating apps. You it's a nightmare. But I have two questions. One, well, I might as lost the dating app question. First, do you think it's even possible to meet someone on the dating app? 00:18:19 Speaker 3: Did you? 00:18:20 Speaker 4: Did you do dating apps for a couple of weeks, just a couple of weeks, but yeah, it didn't pan out. Well, it depends on the type of person that you are. You know, people give and receive love in different ways, and people need different things from relationships. Like I'm a big quality time person, so I need that face to face interaction. There are words of affirmation. People that just want to be told good things about themselves and makes them feel great. I think it just depends. I do think that people don't socially interact with people enough in modern day dating I think that adding a phone is adding another layer of disconnect between people. And I think it's really easy to have back and forth of two or three messages and write someone off completely and or have a few messages and think they're the best thing ever, and then you have zero contexts on who they actually are as a person. So I think if it's done intently, it's possible. But I everyone that I had ever gone on a date with or anything have been people that I've met in person, and I know, lucky with us it was so nice. I mean, that was the biggest thing I think we can thank Paradise for was giving us where we didn't have any outside influences and it was just us being able to spend time together get to know each other with literallyzier other stress besides some of the challenges and games. 00:20:06 Speaker 3: But actually I actually have more to say on that too, Actually, but I I agreed to most of your points. I feel like, yeah, honestly, any of the successful dates that I had before Spencer, I feel like it was honestly me putting myself out there and being like, hey, I think that you're attractive, Like are you single? And it's either. 00:20:28 Speaker 1: Way you whoa, whoa, sorry. 00:20:32 Speaker 3: To men and so yeah oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:20:37 Speaker 1: Yeah, I assume to be single. 00:20:40 Speaker 2: Would I ever ask someone out on the date? 00:20:43 Speaker 1: I said, of course, I am very outgoing, but I will not go up to a guy and say, hey, are you single? I think find you know that's never happened. Keep talking, Jess, keep going. 00:20:55 Speaker 3: But also I feel like, I don't know, I feel like dating apps it can like is people that are are introverts and they're just not comfortable with going up to someone like that because like getting shut down in person is way harder got down over your phone. So I do think that there can there can definitely be success stories over the dating app. I think it really just depends on, like you said, the individual, the individual and who you are as a person. 00:21:23 Speaker 4: Although I don't think you should just rely on one channel of finding someone, like still make an effort to like go out to event or fitness class or Farmer's mark or whatever, or like honestly like meet people through friends, church or I don't know. 00:21:45 Speaker 2: It's more about people that are struggling to put themselves out there. What advice would you give them? 00:21:50 Speaker 4: Both, I would find a community through something that you're passionate about. So I actually met my best friends here through a church event that we went to. I know that I've met a lot of other friends through like fitness classes. There's run clubs, there's pilates classes, there's yoga, there's like all these things to do. Go to the farmers market, go to a book club. I know that there's book clubs and stuff like that for people to enjoy reading. I would just find something you're passionate about and find a community that's also passionate about it, and get to meet people. 00:22:27 Speaker 3: In at least one thing that connects you. Then like that's already like you're you're passionate about it, so it's going to be easy to talk about. 00:22:35 Speaker 4: And then from there she would be texpert right now because she's like finding new friends and everything. Because obviously all my friends love her, which is awesome, But I do think it'd be really nice for her to be able to have like her own girlfriends that you are. 00:22:53 Speaker 1: Such a breath. You are one of those people that you light up a room when you walk in. You are mascot. You know, I'm honest, you are not gonna have ten seconds of alone time. You're gonna have so many friends to many of the. 00:23:06 Speaker 3: Time, I'm not I haven't put myself out there that much like meet girls here in Dallas yet, just because like honestly, I've been focused on getting all their stuff settled, and there's also just like so many things that we still haven't gotten to do together here. I'm like I will and like I have been trying new fitness classes and things like that, going to events and stuff. But when I'm working out, like I'm one of those people that I'm like, I want to work out. 00:23:41 Speaker 2: And not be talked to, Like I'm yeah on privacy, does everybody recognize you when you go? 00:23:48 Speaker 1: Yeah? 00:23:48 Speaker 3: But I feel like people are like super respectful, like well either I like, I love when people are just like, oh my gosh, I watch you. It's so awesome to like see you out here in Dallas and then like go on and go about your day. And then some people, like I can I can tell that, like they they notice, but like they don't say anything, and it's almost like awkward because I They'll be like, you look so familiar, and I never want to assume that it's because they walk to show I'm like. 00:24:21 Speaker 4: Really familiar looking face. 00:24:23 Speaker 3: Yeah, because I never want like, I just feel like I'm never going to be like, oh, yes, that's so yeah, I know that's all right. 00:24:33 Speaker 1: We got to wrap here quickly. But Susan, you've got. 00:24:35 Speaker 3: To question all day. 00:24:38 Speaker 4: Let's take this off the. 00:24:40 Speaker 1: More questions. Susan, you always ask it? What is the question you always ask our guests? 00:24:45 Speaker 2: Okay, before we go, I do either of you have any questions for us? 00:24:51 Speaker 1: Oh? 00:24:52 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. I wish I would have looked at the. 00:24:55 Speaker 4: Expect I think we need a little bit more time podcast, because we do. 00:25:00 Speaker 2: I think we need a part two, definitely, part three, Part three. 00:25:05 Speaker 3: Well, what you do you have something? 00:25:08 Speaker 4: You go first? 00:25:09 Speaker 3: Okay? Well, Susan, you're you're dating someone? Yes, okay, So part of my question is I want to know how y'all met. And then Kathy, I need to update on what you've been up. 00:25:21 Speaker 1: Well, why don't I go first because my update is very short? 00:25:24 Speaker 3: Oh no, I. 00:25:25 Speaker 4: Hate a short update from you right now? 00:25:28 Speaker 2: Really? 00:25:30 Speaker 1: Yeah, Kathy was with me, so yeah, So but I'm open. I'm gonna I'm going to go out to the gym, the library, the music venues. I'm going to just do it all. Spencer and Jess told me I would meet the man of my dreams if I went to these things. That's what I would love to be dating. But right now, no, I just you know, I mean, we don't have time to day. I don't settle that's at all. Yeah, I don't, so for me, Okay, Now, Susan on to you because my story was true. 00:26:05 Speaker 2: Well, thank god Kathy had a little bit of French because when I met him at Kathy and I were on vacation in Saint Martin and so I had an espresso martini after dinner one night. We came back and we Chi check girl talk, watched our face all that, and we go to bed. She goes up. I go to my bed and I'm wide awake. I'm playing games on my iPad and I was bored. Great, I can't. 00:26:28 Speaker 4: Sleep play games on your iPad too. 00:26:30 Speaker 2: I do, and I downloaded Tinder stop first person I saw, But then I didn't go back and check for three days. It was just a moment thing. And when I finally did, it was like what Kathy had to speak for me, because. 00:26:45 Speaker 1: So, yeah, so su success me, I met a guy. We're going to meet him Tennis, and I'm not meeting anybody? What are you out of your mind? And so she goes, he doesn't speak English, and you gotta be kidding me. So fast forward. We walk over to the bar. He literally does not speaks English. Susan does not speak a word of French, and I speak enough to do you know? Yeah, yeah, we stayed Spanish. So I introduced them in French and then I said I'm out of here, and. 00:27:14 Speaker 2: He said no, no, no, no. 00:27:15 Speaker 1: No, no no no. And there they got their phones out and they're translating. 00:27:19 Speaker 2: Well that was he. When he asked me out, he said three questions for you. I said, yes, Number one do you like to dance? Number two? Do you have ear pods? And number three I hope your French is better than my English. I said two yes is and one though. 00:27:32 Speaker 3: Oh. 00:27:33 Speaker 2: So when she left, we had them in our ears. We were there for like three hours and at one point I said, you know where I come from. When I go meet somebody or a date or whatever this is, I usually make eye contact. I can't even tell you what color. 00:27:48 Speaker 3: Your eyes are looking at this phone. 00:27:51 Speaker 1: So that this is why we have to wrap this episode. Because I have my bags packed with my computer my phone and my ear pod speak kind of man, I'm just gonna translate such. 00:28:05 Speaker 3: A fun story, though. So has your French gotten better or has his English gotten better a little bit? 00:28:15 Speaker 4: Baby? I guess my question would be, if you could go back in time and spend more time doing any one thing, whether that be spending time on a hobby, spending time with family, like whatever, what would you have prioritized. 00:28:35 Speaker 1: At what age? I mean when you say go back, go back to what age? 00:28:39 Speaker 4: I would go back anytime, like anytime past the age of thirty. Let's say that's more applicable to myself, and I'm selfish. 00:28:48 Speaker 1: Sometimes I got the answer. Do you have an answer? Sitisan, go ahead, you go first? 00:28:52 Speaker 4: No? 00:28:52 Speaker 2: If you have a go no, I've got ten different ones. 00:28:55 Speaker 1: Well, the one so do I The one that jumped out at me was exactly what I told Ashley. I wish that I had not been such a quote unquote perfect parent. My kids practice piano an hour today. My kids did all their homework, they were in book clubs, and they read books in the summer. I was so much about them achieving. 00:29:21 Speaker 3: We didn't. 00:29:22 Speaker 1: I mean, I love my kids in their wonderful. 00:29:24 Speaker 2: I think that's what he's asking, and he's asking something that you and. 00:29:27 Speaker 1: I wish I had spent more time. Oh, I thought, what you Yeah, I know that's but that's I had spent more time just enjoying my kids and the small moments and not worrying so much about what was going to happen to them when they grew up. 00:29:40 Speaker 2: Yeah, to me, that sounds like like a regret, almost like something you would want to do well. 00:29:46 Speaker 4: And but that that makes sense though, because it could be something that, like I look back at things, I'm like, man, I wish I would have spent more time doing this, And it's not as much a regret as it would have been interesting to have. 00:30:00 Speaker 1: Yeah, I regret I was a great mom. I wasn't a perfect mom. I'm just saying something I wish i'd done more of is spend more time with them doing silly stuff. You know, we had lots of traditions and stuff, but just fun, silly stuff with my kids. 00:30:15 Speaker 2: When I took it as something like a moment that I was having so much fun, I wish I could do it longer. And that would have been sharing that bedroom in the mansion and bonding with you girls. That I could have done that for a month. 00:30:32 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, totally. 00:30:35 Speaker 4: Those are both good. I can't go back to the mansion and bond in bed with all the guys. 00:30:40 Speaker 1: But I wait, God, that note running out. We're cutting right there. That doesn't literally for today's episode, we literally could talk to you guys for hours. You are simply the best. I personally adore you both. Thank you so much for coming on. We truly have. 00:31:02 Speaker 4: You. 00:31:02 Speaker 3: It's so fine. 00:31:03 Speaker 1: We love this. 00:31:04 Speaker 2: We're definitely going to do more of this, and thank you to our listeners. I hope you enjoyed Spencer and just as much as we do. Be sure to subscribe because we have new episodes dropping every week with more of your Bachelor Nation favorites. 00:31:22 Speaker 1: But maybe not as favorite as Spencer Jess favorite couple favorite. 00:31:29 Speaker 4: All right, so sweet man, I'll slip you guys the twenty later. 00:31:34 Speaker 1: Us up. Just come back to Austin. Just come back to Austin. Yeah okay. Well, having said all that, we hope that you all will listen to Bachelor Happy Hours Golden Hour on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you listen to your podcast. Until next time, have a great week.