2025-09-16- KSR - Hour 1

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Speaker 2: This is Kentucky Sports Radio presented by Stockton Mortgage. Now here's Matt Jones.

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Speaker 3: All right, good morning.

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Speaker 4: Welcome in, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, Grandpa's and grandma's, aunts and uncles. This is the Tuesday edition of Kentucky Sports Radio. Tuesday, September sixteenth. Ryleyman here at live at Chaos Bar and Grill today, and we've got we got we got a crazy show today. Shannon's about a lot of musical chairs going on today. Shannon the Dude back at studio in Louisville has always contacting portraios sponsored by the t J.

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Speaker 3: Smith Office called t J Shannon, what do you do.

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Speaker 2: He'll make them pay.

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Speaker 3: He'll make them pay.

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Speaker 4: We got the Clark's Puppy Shop phone line eight two eight h two two eight seven and the a Vision Glass text machine. Shannon, do you remember that one?

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Speaker 2: Five oh too, seven thirty five, thirty six eighty.

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Speaker 4: Here you go, very good, very good. You nailed it. You nailed it, very good. So here's what's going on. Matt has scheduled a couple a special guest today. Matt Drew Drew scheduled a couple special guests today. Drew's gonna be out for a couple of days. So when we went to the bullpen, first got it called in Jack Pilgrim, a guy whose arm is always loosened the bullpen.

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Speaker 3: Are you ready to go? Always? You don't seem like you're too ready to go.

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Speaker 5: My arm is always loosen for anytime you call, anytime you text him.

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Speaker 3: I'm here for you, buddy.

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Speaker 2: Because rogen shot out of a cannon this morning. I think it's what it is. You got too much energy.

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Speaker 3: I've had a little coffee this week. All right now, very good. So our two.

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Speaker 4: Special guests, the world famous guys from the Field of sixty eight Jeff Goodman and Rob Doster Drew set this up. You guys are in town to watch practice today or UK basketball, so we'll talk a lot of basketball, you guys. But Man, welcome in. We appreciate you guys coming to Chasmart to join us this morning. I'm just glad we could finally get Goodman back here. Amen, he's invited back to election and again, this is awesome, This is this is just it doesn't feel right, like something about I feel dirty right now that I go around Lexington and I don't get called name everywhere I go.

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Speaker 3: Okay, we're gonna just jump right in there.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you've had this hot cold relationship not just with UK fans, UK coaches and US at KSR. So it's kind of a surreal to see you sitting right there on KSR here at ksbar this morning.

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Speaker 6: It's it's crazy because since I got into this really back in like early two thousands, I haven't really gotten along with the coaches.

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Speaker 3: You know. It started with Billy Bullyclyde.

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Speaker 6: I'm sorry, it's always Bully Clyde. And I remember going on a show with Matt early days in telling him what a bully Clyde was and I was a Famway Park doing the radio show and it was before a Red Sox game that I was covering, and he's defending Gillespie and trying to tell him why it was such a bad hire, which we know why now. And uh and then Cal came along and I wasn't good with Cal dating back to the Memphis days.

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Speaker 7: Uh.

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Speaker 6: You know he once told me that I wasn't welcome in Memphis. Yeah, I told him he can't ban me from an entire city. So I went for that Memphis Tennessee game. It was one verse two and it carried over to here and uh, and actually call and I had to sit down. I think I've talked about it right. Well, it's a couple of years ago. We had a sit down about four years ago. Eric Lindsay set it up, the Formersted dealer. Oh yeah, good guy. Sat down, went in his office, the three of us, and uh. After about thirty seconds, I was like, why the hell did I do this?

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Speaker 3: Oscar?

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Speaker 5: You're right, you were there for Oscar. Me today, I remember that. Ye was awesome, Like how good was Oscar? Well that was before we even knew Oscar. For the Oscar that was just like, because he said, uh, it's between rebound or something, It's between me and God for every single rebound, we were like, oh, yeah, that's in.

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Speaker 3: Little did we know we he was phenomenal. And again, I I think the hard part for me is, you know, I.

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Speaker 6: Love the passion of a big blue nation. Nobody loves it better than me. And now again I've been drawing the ire of Kentucky fans a lot of times because again, I felt like I was pretty much down the middle when it came to Cal. And I think now people can kind of see that I wrote some really good things about Nick Richards and John Wall and all the players and even Cal. A few years ago, coming out of the pandemic, I said he should get another year. Like there were some people at that point that were like, let's get rid of them, and I'm like, no, give him another year. And then I think maybe two years ago I was like, all right, it's time. It's time for both sides to go their own way. And so, yeah, it's weird being back like this. It's weird walking in you know, last year with Tennessee the game and.

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Speaker 3: People were coming up to you asking for pictures in Lexington. I don't know if I'd ever thought that was ever.

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Speaker 6: Gonna happen, right, you know, generally very in person, like we did the Kentucky derby my wife and I years ago, seven eight years ago, and I had a ton of Kentucky fans come.

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Speaker 3: Up to me and be nice in person.

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Speaker 6: Generally you're getting like the other day at the Bourbon whatever and beyond festival. Yeah, people coming up to me all the time, and again Kentucky fans, Louisville fans, whatever. But I think the difference now is feeling welcome by Mark Pope and the staff.

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Speaker 3: It's different now. With Cal he never trusted me. I never trusted him.

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Speaker 6: I always felt like, again, whatever he said was you know, listen, it was whatever he wanted to get out there. That's what he would try to turn the message to. Whatever you'd ask him. Jack knows this better than anybody.

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Speaker 4: Whatever you'd ask him, he had a narrative already in mind. Now, it didn't matter, the question was irrelevant, didn't matter.

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Speaker 3: He was going to answer it the way he wanted to answer it.

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Speaker 6: So I just think Kentucky fans have slowly come to realize what I always thought of John Cal Perry, best recruit in the country, great use car salesman, average to above average coach who again I think has lost his his fastball a little bit. Yeah, and and the work ethic that drove him to be a dominant coach, and I think his staff.

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Speaker 3: Needs reshaping it. Let me let me just kind of I'm going to take what Goodman just said and translated for you guys, all right, Kentucky fans. It took a while, but I was right, and that's a hell of a translation. Absolutely right.

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Speaker 5: So your your relationship with cal is what it is, and it's not just a neutral replacement with with Pope. It's you go from from foe to friend with with Mark Pope. How did that kind of work out where you guys already have your friendship, your relationship and now you do have a you know, friendship with a head coach of Kentucky where you're welcome into practice to do a live show with all the players and all the staff members.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I've just don't Pope for a long time and and know a lot of people around Pope know Mark Fox forever. So can I tell the story of the Arizona story about Pope that I told last.

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Speaker 3: Night if you want to, if you want to, so might as well listening right now.

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Speaker 6: I'll leave the one coaches name out. Anyway, I went to school at Arizona. I rarely get involved in any of these things. Arizona a couple of years ago, when they were going to hire Tommy Lloyd, came out it was going to be Tommy Lloyd, and then they kind of ran the ady at the time, Dave he Key, they didn't want to make it look like it was already wired for Tommy Lloyd, so they started saying another name, not going to say who the name was. At that point, another name was going to be in the mix. I kind of freaked out because it was like a Bully Clyde type. So I'm like called, I called Steve Kerr Arizona guy. I'm like, Steve, this guy, Yeah, no, it shouldn't happen.

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Speaker 3: So Steve.

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Speaker 6: Anyway, Steve kind of got that guy out and then I said to Dave Pekey, you should look at Mark Pope. And the next day he actually an interview with Arizona and I guess he crushed it, but again didn't get the Arizona job. It was already hooked up for timing. Look but he he well could have had the Arizona job.

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Speaker 3: Wow. But that's how much I thought of Mark Pope at the time.

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Speaker 6: Think about, it's my alma mater, and I'm not well liked by my alma mater at all.

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Speaker 3: They hate me there? Hate me? Right now? Did you say something bad about them? Also? Yeah, I mean because he breathing. My favorite part about Goodman is he's like, oh, these people don't like me. I'm not well liked there, I'm not well liked here. I'm not well liked in this in this college town. And he's like, I'm just such a victim when you you love poking the mirror. I would love to go back to and not have to.

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Speaker 6: You know, I've had to actually check in under other names in Tucson. That's how bad it is in the hotel.

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Speaker 4: Well, the thing with Matt here and KSR, you guys had a good relationship then it kind of went south.

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Speaker 3: But you've mended Vince's he kissed the made up Yeah she did last year Tennessee game.

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Speaker 6: We had breakfast, and you know, I think part of it honestly goes back to again, I wasn't on Team Cal.

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Speaker 3: He was on Team Cal Heavy Heavy.

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Speaker 6: For a long time, and then it flipped and he apologized for some things.

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Speaker 3: I apologize for some things.

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Speaker 6: And you know, I'm getting older, I'm getting a little softer, a little nice. I moved to Charleston right the Boston and me is gone, so I gotta be a little bit nice.

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Speaker 3: You got the beach Vine.

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Speaker 6: I'm a Southerner now, so I can't be an asshole all the time. So uh no, I think it was good to sit down with Matt. It was good to sit down with Matt. I love Jack.

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Speaker 3: I think Jack's one of the most talented people.

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Speaker 6: Oh look at this, maybe faced Jack Pilgrim mean that, I mean that sincerely. I watched you, you know, for a long time. There aren't many like you out there. I don't know how old you are. How old are you know?

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Speaker 3: He's got babies now, he's like growing up right in front of our eyes. He does.

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Speaker 6: But he is a worker. He is a worker. He's smart. I would say that it's a fever here or not here. There aren't many like Jack out there right now?

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Speaker 3: How about that.

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Speaker 5: I appreciate that you advocated for Mark Pope with Arizona but I think the Kentucky job was a little bit of a different story. He was such a polarizing just decision in real time where fans had the hurlies and the Billy Donovan's and the just dreaming as big as possible. Scott drew and then it felt in real time that it was they they settled for. So you advocated for him at your alma mater. Did you advocate for Pope in real time with Kentucky? And did the Year one results? Did it shock you at all? And how well he kind of embraced it in you know, reached history. I thought it would be higher than Mark Pope. I think we all did. I think we all thought, hey man, it's not going to fall that far.

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Speaker 3: But it fell that far.

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Speaker 6: You know, obviously with Billy Clyde years ago, like the landscape is different. These guys have huge buyouts now right, Natoates was kind of immovable at that point. I thought he would have been a perfect guy, right, a lot of people Natos and Lexington, with the style of play and with his personality, it would have worked.

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Speaker 3: It would have worked.

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Speaker 6: So I didn't think it would be Pope when at first everything I thought maybe Scott Drew and then obviously his family that didn't work out. I wonder if Scott has some regrets now with the way the landscape has changed and Baylor doesn't have money and now Kentucky's going to have money. Right if he had known this where we are in the world of college basketball, I'm not sure he would have turned it down. But again, I think it was more a family decision. Pope's perfect man. He's perfect for the job because he knows it, he embraces it, and he won enough to be able to now walk around and be beloved because I think a lot of people a year ago today, Rob we all were like, hope it works, But I'm not sure yet.

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure whether Pope can do it. At Kentucky.

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Speaker 6: They won so many close games early that got him that momentum, had a good year, and now everybody's all in a market.

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Speaker 3: I think. I think part of it too, is that he understands when you come here, you're going to be living in the fish bowl, right, Like that's that's just what it is. When you are the head coach at Kentucky, you are the head coach at one of the biggest, probably the biggest college basketball program in the country, right, And I think that there's an element of when you are let's just take natoes. You gave that example, right, if you're when you're the head coach at Alabama, it's not it's different because you're not the football coach, you know what I mean? When you're the head coach at Baylor, it's not. The fan base is different, the pressure is different. The way that you can go out to dinner and not have twenty five people come up to you and nasking for pictures, it's different, and you have to want to be a part of that and understand what it means. And he does. You know, He's been here, he played here, he won a championship here. And I think that that we undervalued the importance of being able to embrace that part of the job. And I think that that Mark Pope does it as well as anybody. He's so authentic. Is that's the thing going from Cal to him night and day. In a lot of ways, Yeah, Well, because you again I said, like salesman, so here for Cal.

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Speaker 6: You don't feel like you're being sold anything by Mark Pope, right, it just feels real.

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Speaker 3: Here's the perfect example. Of who Pope is in my eyes, right. I brought my son to Peach Jamps here. He's nine years old. And the first day that we were there, he's walking with me and Jeff and we walked by him. We're watching like some U sixteen game and Pope is literally the only guy sitting there on the front row at Peach jam and we go when we sit down next to him, and my son sits down right next to Pope and he just ignores me, and Goodman just talks to my son for like ten minutes watching the game is about like baseball or pitching or I don't even know what they were talking about. Yeah, so we go and then we get lunch, and then we walk back into the gym. And I don't know if you've been there, Ryan, Yeah, you've been there. Jack. You know, when you walk into the main gym, you walk down those steps and then there's like thirty people just kind of stand at the bottom of those steps. And I got caught up talking to someone and I thought Chase was right next to me. I turned around, like five minutes later, I'm like, where did he go? I look over, Pope was still sitting there at court side, Chase had walked up and sat right next to him, and they're just sitting there talking again, and I'm like, where did this come from? Like why are you over there? That's the head coach, Like you don't even know what you're doing right now. You don't even know that you're not supposed to be doing that as a nine year old. But Pope just sat there and talked to him and it was great. We gotta take a break.

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Speaker 4: But before we go to the break, Jack, I gotta tell you the a vision last text machine. I've got like eight or nine messages on the text machine. Everyone was about Jeff Goodman's potty mouth. Uh oh yeah, No, you can't, can't say the poopy word. I can't huh Live radio.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I get my wife.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll take a break. We got Jeff Goob and Rob Oster. We're gonna take a couple of calls real quick. If you want to call and talk to these guys. We'm talking football later, but you want to talk to these guys A five nine, two, two to eight seven, Ryan, Jack here, Cass Bar and grayl will be right back. Welcome back Tacky Sports Radio. Ryan Levan sharing the Dude and Jack Pilgrim, joined by special guest from the field of sixty eight Jeff Goodman and Rob Doster. You guys, can I stay with us for a little bit because you're actually going to practice.

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Speaker 3: What do you hope to see?

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Speaker 7: You?

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Speaker 4: What are you excited to maybe see from this UK basketball team. Let's get into the weeds a little bit, Rob, I mean, just the depth, man, the depth. Now he goes, second, he.

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Speaker 3: Goes, Rob, Rob, here, I respect your elders. That's what it's.

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Speaker 6: It's the depth of this team. How how much firepower we just came from Louisville. They're loaded, guys. Yeah, I mean they're they're really about that.

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Speaker 5: I know about your debut on three preseason polls, so we gotta we gotta get into that person.

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Speaker 6: I love that the rivalry is back, like it's officially back this year, with both teams being preseason top ten, both having a chance to get to a Final four, both having a chance to maybe cut down the nets in Indie this year. But I think it's just the depth and talent and the way this roster was put together. And again, they have more money than everybody else, so to be honest, if you look at it, Robson when we were at Purdue. What did you say, what's your quote, rob about national title or bust for Purdue. Okay, so if you agree with that, then I think you have to agree with its final four bust for Kentucky because they have twenty million dollars that is probably thirty percent more than any other team in the country with an nil payroll, somewhere at twenty five thirty percent something like that.

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Speaker 4: So to me, you've got pressure. And I talked to Mark Pope about it a couple of weeks ago in Charlotte. He knows it and he embraces it. That's the best part.

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Speaker 3: Of Mark Pope.

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Speaker 6: Now he's not saying what the number is, but he's saying, yeah, we got money, and I'm glad we got money. Yeah, and I want that. I want them, I want the resources, and I want the pressure. Now again, easier to say for the season. If you don't live up to it. At the end of the season, we'll see how he deals with it.

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Speaker 3: I think they're gonna be awesome that like point point period. I think the fact that otaga Oway came back is something that has gone way under the radar national Like he's good who he's SEC preseason player of the Year, right, and that's that's no question, no doubt about it. Is there anyone else he's been in the conversation. I don't think that there is not to.

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Speaker 5: The point of your nitpicking at that point.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So he's preseason SEC Player of the Year, preseason first or second team All American, wherever you want to put him. A guy that averaged sixteen a game for Sweet sixteen team, right, And I just I feel like when he decided that he was coming back to school with something, I'm like, yeah, I'll take us back when it should have been. Okay, this just changed what the trajectory of Kentucky season could end up being. Now. The one concern I do have is that it feels like the best Pope teams get up and down space the floor and have a lot of shooters, and I'm not convinced that they have the shooting that you would normally want for Mark Pope team, right, Like Jaalen Lowe. Part of the he shot what was it, twenty six percent from three last year. Part of that is probably the difficulty of the shots that he was getting when he was that pit. I think he's probably a better shooter than twenty six. But oh take Alway as a guy. He can make shots. I don't think you'd necessarily call him a shooter. Right. How are they going to get that floor spacing? How are they going to be able to get that movement offensively? Who's going to replace some of the shooters that they lost last year? Will that work for Pope? But that's a I mean they go what nine to ten deep? They got multiple guys that could be all league guys.

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Speaker 5: Say eleven Twelvey, but it'll end up being nine ten.

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Speaker 3: They got multiple ball handlers. The other thing, and this will be a more interesting uh dynamic, is how how do they adjust when Jaden Quainton comes back? Right, because he'll probably be healthy. We'll talk to him today and get a get an answer from someone. But mid December January, by the time he's like fulvo, yeah somewhere around there. At that point, your rotation is set. At that point, you have guys that are expecting a certain amount of minutes at that point.

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Speaker 6: BG to keep people happy until that yeah, keep them happy?

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Speaker 3: Can you keep them happy? When he gets back and all of a sudden, the guy that was playing twenty five minutes a game is now playing twelve minutes a game of coming off the bench. Right if you're winning, Yeah, if you're winning, it might not matter. But also that's a big step down for players when they know that if they perform well, it could mean and bea in their future. It could mean a bigger payday next season. So that that's gonna be something. I'm not saying he can't do it, but that's gonna be something you got to navigate when you get to that point.

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Speaker 5: See what kind of needle mover is Jaden Quainton's assuming he plays at full strength and becomes kind of the guy we're all hoping and dreaming.

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Speaker 3: I mean, look, he's he's big, he's athletic, he can protect the rim, and he is a guy that can be that like five man that is out on the perimeter as a ball handler and a distributor and an initiator that can do some of the things that Amari Williams did last year. And when you pull that five men away from the basket and you can use him in offense and he can be the passer and you can throw those back door cuts, that changes what Pope's offense can be like how many times they get layups last year just because of MARII Williams at the ball at the top of the key. Yep, time to back cork door cut at the right time, you got a layup out of it. I think Quainton's can be that guy. And if he's back and he's healthy, is a room protector and he's effective defensively. He can rebound, you can get out and go. There's a you know, grab and go grabbing go five man. It changes a lot of things.

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Speaker 6: An elite the Arizona staff, I should read you what I'm trying to find it right now.

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Speaker 3: What what I here?

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Speaker 6: Here's I'm going to read you from one of the Arizona assistants.

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Speaker 3: What he said, Okay about Jayden and Quaintons. He's unbelievable.

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Speaker 6: Gets up every day and run a mile, would come back at night and shoot. Only drinks water, not on social media, reads books, big time chess player, has never smoke or.

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Speaker 3: Had to drink.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he've actually actually beat Pope and chess. I think a couple of times. Think he has a winning record against Pope and chess.

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Speaker 5: Which says something because Pope is brilliant, so.

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Speaker 4: We're about to run out of times, you guys. But you know, we all to think about who's gonna play. It's the question for most fancy to be who's gonna win the four job, who's gonna he's gonna be at the four? How do you guys foresee that working out. I think it's gonna be a rotation there. I think you're gonna see lineups where you have Diabate there. I think there's gonna be lineups where you see came Williams playing at the four and you put more shooters out there. I think there's gonna be lineups where you try to go big and maybe play quaintance and big together when they're both healthy. I think that you're gonna see who's the shooter, the mountain Mamba, the mountain mamba, you.

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Speaker 5: Know, mounta Mama.

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Speaker 3: I think you're gonna see him there at times as well. So I think Diabante has got to play.

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Speaker 6: I just think he's he's a guy that Pope hasn't had. You know, he's not a big time shooter, but man, he is elite, defensively tough as you know what, good leader. Yeah, I just I think he's gonna find a way to get on the floor and stand the floor as long as you have enough shooting around him. And like Rob said, this is not a traditional Mark Pope team, but he's got enough pieces that he can he can move it around and get it to where he's he's got enough shooting.

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Speaker 3: On the floor.

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Speaker 4: We'd love to talk to you for a couple of hours. We know you got to go, but listen. Congratulations joining the on three family. Are now a co worker of mister baby Face Jack Pilgrim. Now, I was announcetarlier this week, so I know you guys are excited about it. I know On three's excited.

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Speaker 3: That his official nickname mister babyface, Yes is what we call him.

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Speaker 5: He's been calling me that foreven.

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Speaker 3: Years, baby Face Jack Pilger. It threw me off when you said that you've been here since twenty sixteen, twenty sixteen, because I, like I swear, I thought you just graduated common last Well. Look at him, he looks like he's in high School's right? Six kids? All right? Yeah? Two kids?

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Speaker 4: Bro, Congratulations, join on three. Thank you for coming on. I wish we could talk to you a lot longer, but uh, we'll be back. Send us a note what you see from practice today, maybe we'll be that. Well, we're gonna be something with Jack after after practice, Jeff Goodman, Rob Doctor, were right back. This is Kentucky Sports Radio.

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Speaker 4: Being brought back in by the greatest singer in the history of music, Darius Rucker. Yes, well, Ryan Lemon, Jack Pilgrim sharing to do. We twisted Rob Doster's arm to stay one more segment. Jeff is meeting with a UK student right now. So Rob, you nice enough to sit and join us because we were, like I said, we feel like we could talk to you guys like two hours trying to get into the weeds and stuff about UK basketball. I mean, they're what a couple weeks away from midnight madness, I mean, sneaking up on us, and you guys are doing your tour, going some different camps. We said, you went to Purdue, you went to that other school down the road a little bit. Are you excited to see what this team, this Kentucky team can.

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Speaker 3: Do this year? I am, I am. I'm really excited to see I'm very curious to see how the rotations play out. I'm very curious to see how you play. For example, Denzel and jailing together. Is there going to be a situation where you have a starting point guard in the backup point guard with those two. But I'll be honest, Ryan, the biggest reason why I'm back here again is that I didn't. I feel like I said three words good.

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Speaker 4: Here, No kidd, I got thoughts man, he totally noted your airtime there a little bit.

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Speaker 3: I think, Hey, this happened, uh, this happened yesterday too, where I would ask a kid a question and Goodman would answer the question.

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Speaker 5: You asked me a question that's true, answer the question even a rob. What do you think about this, Jeff? Well, clearly my turn here.

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Speaker 3: I just I love how he was like, you got to respect your elders, and so there must be a lot of respect, because as young as you look, that's the opposite of what we got with Jeff over there. All right, I'm done. I'm done. I'm done making fun.

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Speaker 5: Of you, all right, But I stepped up and make fun of you because I watched your interview yesterday. Great job with Pat Pat Kelsey, by the way, but point guard you, how how do you when when he says something as egregious as that you don't like your head doesn't fall off, your your neck did? How does that happen?

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Speaker 7: It?

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Speaker 3: It took me a second to kind of register what, like point guard, point guard?

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Speaker 7: You?

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Speaker 3: Is this point chucky? Is that? What is that look?

00:24:53
Speaker 5: And I maybe MIKEL. Brown, I get definitely my.

00:24:57
Speaker 3: Like I gave. I get what he's doing right, Like he's he's trying to brand it as that. Sure, they're probably targeting a point guard in the class of twenty twenty six that they just wi would take anny that they would like to have come in, that they would like to have come in. So I think that that's probably what he's doing. But I mean, listen, we spent we had what fifteen years of cal here branding Kentucky is whatever he wanted to brand it. This is what coaches do, man, It's it's it's the world that we live in.

00:25:25
Speaker 4: And you hosted this show twice. You and John Fanta hosted the show a couple of times, got to take calls, so you're kind of familiar with kind of what we do. You know, we're kind of fan boys, but I can't help it get more than that. Ryan, come on, well, you know I'm the dumb, dumb buddy dufi Is on the show. But I can't help but get excited about what this basketball season could be. I mean, I just are we Are we just being too much of a fan boy? Or is it a legit reason to be excited about this team?

00:25:52
Speaker 3: All the way? I say this all the time. The best part about being a fan is the build, right. The best part is when started the place where you don't feel good about the program, and then that energy comes back, and then you get a guy like Pope coming in, and then you go through a year where I don't know what you guys were expecting last season, I don't know. I wasn't expecting too much. I thought like the tournament would be good. Then you're a top ten, top fifteen team, you make it to the sweet sixteen. Right now, you got a preseason top ten team, dream have fun with them. And the best part is when you were on that growth pattern, when you are getting better and yeah there was reason to be excited. That's when it's that the best And then eventually you're gonna hit that peaker.

00:26:31
Speaker 4: That's all I wanted to hear. That's exactly I wanted to hear. They we're not crazy feeling this way.

00:26:35
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that's kind of when you got the foundation with year one, kind of the high floor. Guys were just loading up on portal talent, you know, talent. Now he could kind of hand pick the guys that fit, the returning talent, the incoming freshman. Hey, let's go get Andrea yellowed yellow bitch from Croatia. See where he fits in, you know, setting the tone in your one to kind of get to what I think Pope, you know, a full a full recruiting period.

00:27:01
Speaker 3: Work, was you a chance to dream?

00:27:02
Speaker 2: Right?

00:27:03
Speaker 3: You can say, oh man, how great is it gonna be? If Mark Pope brns us back to the final four, if he brings us back another championship, if he gets us that next national championship banner that we can hang and rub. Right. Whereas once you reach the end of a coaching cycle, you're you're not excited. You're gonna watch them because that's your team, Yeah, and you love them and you want them to win more than anything. But at the end of the Calider. I can't imagine that you were excited to go watch John Caller Perry coach basketball team. It was painful at times. Yeah, they were one and you happy, but it wasn't. It wasn't what you wanted out of your program. And I feel like you guys have that now, so embrace it. Mandreaming nice that that's what we need to hear. That's what being a fan is about.

00:27:41
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, uh eight two two eight seven, that's our phone number.

00:27:44
Speaker 3: We got a collar online. So who we got chanting?

00:27:46
Speaker 2: Let's go to bluegrass?

00:27:47
Speaker 3: Bluegrass? You're with Rob Dost?

00:27:49
Speaker 7: Go ahead, what's going on? Fellas a rob big fan of the field of sixty four? I guess sixty eight Now. When I'm not listening to sources, I'm definitely over there on your channel. So good man, I love what you're all doing.

00:28:05
Speaker 3: I appreciate that. Thank you.

00:28:07
Speaker 7: Hey, I just got one little simple thing. Thank you so much for leaving Tyler Hansboro at the hall. Oh my good thank you.

00:28:15
Speaker 3: Appreciate it. Bluegrass.

00:28:17
Speaker 7: When I heard that, when I heard that, I was like, oh, I'm all in and what a great trip. No, Tyler Hansborough. I'm loving it fellas.

00:28:26
Speaker 3: Has he replaced Goodman as public enemy number one?

00:28:28
Speaker 5: Maybe for us for sure.

00:28:30
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's no doubt.

00:28:31
Speaker 4: But yeah, for many years, I'm like, just to see Jeff Goodman sitting here on this show is a little kind of surreal, a little bit Tyler next year.

00:28:38
Speaker 3: No, no, I don't think you were there yet with him.

00:28:41
Speaker 5: We're not very yet.

00:28:41
Speaker 4: Now, Jack mentioned Yellovich, it's something you guys, you know, didn't put on your rotation. Is he still a long ways away? Or do you feel like that he because the guy that could contribute this year.

00:28:50
Speaker 3: I honestly don't really know. That's part of why I like going on on these trips and why I like getting onto these campus and being able to talk to the coaches and kind of see it for yourself, because all of these euro guys, it feels like with a lot of them, you hear about how, oh he's older, he just played professionally for this many years, he's this, he's whatever, he has kind of NBA draft prospect. And then they get here and it's not just the adjustment to a different style of play. It's a completely different culture. It's different food that you're eating, right, It's different last year. Yeah, right, it's a different way of life. It's it's a different language for a lot of these kids when you're coming in. So I feel like the adjustment process is gonna be much more difficult, and there's gonna be bigger swings. Right. You're gonna see guys that are just maybe they already speak English because they grew up in Lithuanian and they were playing in Spain. Right, There's gonna be guys that have already adjusted to living away from home, whereas someone that maybe came from their local club when they were nineteen years old and coming here, it's gonna be different. Right. So it's very hard to get a feel for what those European guys are gonna be when they adjust, because so much of it is beyond just what they can do as a basketball players. Right, How does that human being fit when you have that big of a cultural change in your life. So that's one of the things that I'm gonna be looking for today when we get to practice.

00:30:06
Speaker 5: My prediction for you is when we talk after practice, on your way out, on your way to the airport, that's gonna be the first thing you bring up. So, whoa I didn't realize because I've heard great things about Yellowvich. I think he's kind if we look at what Andrew Carr was for the team last year in terms of role, I think that's kind of what they're hoping he becomes, maybe even a better version of that. So I'm excited for you to see what Yellowich looks like and maybe talk to him. I mean, we haven't even gotten to meet that kid yet.

00:30:34
Speaker 4: So produce the first exhibition game. They're, like you said, already predicting championship or bust. It could be the most hyped up exhibition game in the history of college basketball. And they come here to play Kentucky at Uperna. It'll be sold out packed for an exhibition game.

00:30:48
Speaker 3: You know what I love about that is that Painter said the reason why he's doing that is because he wants to throw his guys into the fire. Basically, like, let's let's go show him the most difficult experience that they can have as a as as a college basketball player, and let's like basically see what they got, right, Let's see where they're gonna be able to handle that. Let's get that out of the way at the start of the season, so that when you actually play the games that matter, you'll be able to it won't be as bad. So he's like, yeah, we're going into the Hornets Nest. We're going interrupt. Didn't they play at bud Walton last year? Right? I think they did. Yeah, He's like, my exhibition games, don't let's go. Let's let's let's go see how how badly we can get our I'm trying not to curse. Here are are tails whipped? See that see that some of us are professional and.

00:31:30
Speaker 5: Uh. In terms of the returning talent, you can't say otaka away. Is there a player that you're most looking forward to saying, hey, I'm expecting a Colin Chandler jump or a Trent No Mountain Mamba?

00:31:41
Speaker 3: What?

00:31:41
Speaker 5: What is there a guy that you're kind of, you know, keeping a close eye on to say, hey, he could be the breakout cand that we're waiting for for the wildcouts.

00:31:48
Speaker 3: I'm excited to see what Colin Chandler can be. You know, he had the two years off and he's back and he can shoot, and he's he can kind of fill some of those roles. I really want to see something out of BG. You know, he's a guy that was. He was like a top twenty five five star kid, right.

00:32:02
Speaker 5: Top thirty McDonald's burger boy though.

00:32:04
Speaker 3: Yeah, so he's big, he's athletic. You saw some flashes last year where he kind of started to figure it out a little bit at that five spot, right, And I think with him, it's how well can he process the game? How well can he understand Okay, when I am here and there's this action on the week's side of the floor, this is where the ball is going to be open. This is where I have an opportunity to attack. This is where the player I have to make is And I think Mari Williams picked that up really quickly last year, and I think that by the end of the year we saw it a little bit out of BG. Yeah. And when you have that much talent and you have a coach that can get you to the point where you start understanding what you're supposed to be doing. He is a guy that I think can give you a little bit of a ceiling.

00:32:43
Speaker 4: About Jasper Johnson because he's a guy obviously we grew up here, we all know, we all seen him since place and he was elementary school. He has high expectations from a lot of fashion.

00:32:51
Speaker 3: Him play in elementary school. Well, he's the same age as my son.

00:32:54
Speaker 4: Oh my son played against him forever.

00:33:00
Speaker 5: Out of context that.

00:33:02
Speaker 3: I was scouting this kid when he was in the.

00:33:04
Speaker 5: Fifth grade, I knew as a first grader man he just had that hit factor.

00:33:08
Speaker 4: So a lot of people expect him to be a guy that's gonna maybe surprise people and get on the floor lot this year.

00:33:15
Speaker 3: Do you see that? I like Jasper, I think that when you are in this day and age, the only freshmen that are coming in and going to significantly impact the team to the point where they're like, okay, like he's a difference maker, are gonna be the guys that are like the top two, three, four guys in each class, and then beyond that, you're gonna have some good role players, right Like, I think that when you have anil keeping guys around longer, when you are bringing in transfers that are twenty two to twenty three, twenty four years old, and that's happening everywhere across the high major level of college basketball, right I think that asking an eighteen year old to come in to a program and compete with guys four or five, six years older than him. It's tough. It's a hard thing to do. Yeah, So with freshmen, I'm always gonna be like, give it time. It's gonna take a little bit a while, but the talent is there. Like when you're his size and you got his ability on the ball and he could score lefty. There's just something about lefties that it feels like they're always that much more fun to watch. Were you a lefty?

00:34:13
Speaker 5: No?

00:34:13
Speaker 3: I was not. I wish I was. Maybe I would have been good. Where is it?

00:34:16
Speaker 6: Did you?

00:34:17
Speaker 3: Where did you play? Vassar College? Faster? That's your right, faster Division III school. What's what's the opposite of a powerhouse? I? By the way, I have a I have a record at A at Vassar College, and it is it's some for the basketball team. I'm the only player that's ever gotten kicked off the team twice. What did you do? Yeah, let's just say I was really good at college.

00:34:43
Speaker 4: He is Rob Doster there in the field of sixty eight newest members of the on three family. Man, thank you so much for hanging out with us, and uh, kind of, like I said, send Jack a note after practice. We can kind of talk about what you guys, what you saw and what you.

00:34:54
Speaker 3: See say tonight, We're I finally got the invite. Men, there we go. I've waiting for nine years, He's been here for nine years, and I finally got thet.

00:35:04
Speaker 5: We'll be waiting for them outside the Joe Craft Center like a Mike waiting waiting for Bully Gillespie. We're gonna be We're gonna be waiting. They're gonna come out where they're gonna recreate that Yeah you were. You guys could be sprinting to the uber and we'll.

00:35:16
Speaker 3: Be wait, whoa hold who? What do you think about? He is? He is robbed Ostro.

00:35:23
Speaker 4: We'll be back with Jack Pilgrim and a lot more coming up here and can take his sports radio don't go away, Welcome back Kentucky's Sports Radio, Ryan Levon, Shannon T. Dude, and Jack Pilgrim here. Uh just had to say goodbye to Jeff, Jeff Goodman and Rob Dostro. How good with those guys. I mean it's weird, man.

00:35:42
Speaker 5: I'm just sitting here with all the KSR stuff and then having Jeff Goodman's face right next to me is It's like these things don't belong.

00:35:49
Speaker 4: But it feels so right, you know, because he was kind of public enemy number one, not just for the fans, but for ks R two for a long time.

00:35:58
Speaker 5: We're not on good terms for a very long time. Just and good for him being a good sport to just kind of say, hey, it's a new era for all of us. It was weird. It was a weird time in the past. We know, we acknowledge that. But we can just let bygones be bygones, move past the past, and you know, I have a bright future together now it's co workers.

00:36:17
Speaker 3: Yeah.

00:36:17
Speaker 4: Now, if you're part of the ON three team, you and I were talking during the break and it went by like super fast that first thirty minutes, just like flew by. I feel like I've got so much more I want to talk to him about, but time just disappeared.

00:36:28
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I'm glad that we'll kind of get a little post practice recap and again, they're gonna be at the Joe Craft Center. They're gonna be interviewing Mark Pope, They're gonna be having the whole roster be coming through that. If you watched what they did yesterday with Pat Kelsey, that it was the interview with the head coach and then had basically every single player on the Louisville roster come through. It's gonna be a very similar format today. So should get a ton of great intel from from the Joe Craft Center today.

00:36:52
Speaker 4: So you're gonna be outside on the sidewalk, Mike in hand. Steven's gonna be there with the camera and you're gonna get him for your sources, say podcast.

00:37:00
Speaker 3: Why they wait on their uber.

00:37:02
Speaker 5: It's gonna be a tight squeeze because they have a flight at seven fifteen, so to for by the time they get out of practice, hoping that there's no traffic, hoping that the TSA line isn't too bad. I've never had a horrible experience. Again, we got to knock on wood whatever, because I do not want them to miss their flight. But if all goes as planned, we should get some immediately after the fact takeaways from from the field sixty eight guys.

00:37:26
Speaker 4: As long as the uber like it's caught in traffic, the longer you get to ask them questions about what they saw. That's what it's kind of where we're interviewing before practice. I want to know what they say after they see practice.

00:37:36
Speaker 5: That's that's why that's.

00:37:37
Speaker 3: Why sorts of say podcast is doing that.

00:37:39
Speaker 5: That's why we're doing it.

00:37:40
Speaker 3: So how can people see the sources of say this this episode how they see it?

00:37:44
Speaker 5: Stephen Hope sitting next to us, We'll hopefully have everything set up with the pre recorded segment and then we'll be going live right at eight o'clock on.

00:37:51
Speaker 4: The gotcha, what was your biggest takeaway about what they said about this basketball team that.

00:37:58
Speaker 5: Jayden The quote from from the Arizona State staff about Jaden quaints you know, the off the record, unfiltered, just you know, a real takeaway of their experience with Jaden Quaintans before he got to Kentucky. Because it's everything I had heard about Jayden as well. Awesome kid coming from a great family that you know, really you know, no drinking, only drinking water, you know, no smoking none, all of an unbelievable kid, on top of being a generational basketball town.

00:38:25
Speaker 4: True, Shannon, So what do you buy about this? They say Jaden Quaint's has gained forty pounds already.

00:38:32
Speaker 5: It's I don't think that's necessarily the truth. I think it's a combination of what he it the number, the pre number. If I had to guess was the Hey, this is what he was first when he stepped foot on campus at Arizona State, whatever he gained there, and then another full offseason. So I think that's like a two year sample size that we're working with, not a hey. Over eight weeks in Lexington, the strength, strength and conditioning staff put forty pounds of good weight on this kid. I don't think that's a reality, but things are going very very well. Just the videos and clips that I've gotten in seeing with my own two eyes of how he's progressing, Jade looks good and I think he is definitely a needle mover for what this team could be. And in terms of that final four upside we were talking about earlier.

00:39:17
Speaker 4: Shannon, they're like the wrestling move, you know, he said the one dude weighs seven hundred pounds. They're saying jayde and Quayton has gained forty pounds and Likeael, you.

00:39:24
Speaker 2: Know, Richie and I were talking about this a little bit on the pre show today. If you've gained forty pounds, I don't think that's a good thing. I don't think you need to gain four. I mean, if you're getting forty pounds of muscle. And again, maybe we're talking about two years and that's that's more understandable. But if you put on forty pounds in the off season, that's not going to be all muscle. And you know, I'm expecting him to come back and look like Zion if.

00:39:44
Speaker 3: That were the case.

00:39:45
Speaker 2: So yeah, I think you're probably right Jack and saying it's probably two years and not one year. That would that would make more sense.

00:39:52
Speaker 4: And before we go to the break, we need to say, we need to say something here. We all kind of have a heavy heart here at KSR and KS Bar and Grill and our neighbors next door, Bilton killed good friend of the show Manny Robertson, passed away yesterday, one of Drew Franklin's best friends. That's why Drew's and I here today. I mean, Manny was really Drew's right or die. You know, they went to all the games together and watch games together. Uh, just kind of unexpectedly Manny passed away yesterday and Drew's Drew's having a hard time, So remember him in your thoughts and prayers. The Toms, the Robinson, Robinson family, It's it's tough. It's a tough day for everybody around here, and Manny was a good guy.

00:40:33
Speaker 5: It broke my heart when you when you said that yesterday again, when you the reason why I'm even sitting here is due to that very unfortunate circumstance. And when you reached out and said, hey, something came up with Drew. First it was like, oh, you know, hey, I'm ready. But then when you you know the why behind it, it's just it breaks your heart. You know, love you, Drew. If you're listening to this or hope hopefully you're not. Hopefully you're taking some time to yourself and you know, reflecting on a great relationship, great friendship.

00:40:58
Speaker 3: Being with Manny.

00:40:58
Speaker 5: It's an awesome dude. iHeart Kentucky Fan, definitely one of us.

00:41:02
Speaker 4: You're right, we've all got that guy who's our writer die and maybe this is the time we need to step back. And you know, it's okay to tell guys are supposed to be so macho. It's okay to tell you your buddy you love them, you know, And it's also it's okay to show your feelings. We're supposed to be so macho when he can't show our feelings and tell men we love each other why not. And you know now, you Drew loses his rider die and I'm sure he's feeling that, you know, right now.

00:41:29
Speaker 3: It's tough to have to go through.

00:41:31
Speaker 4: So just remember Drew and the Robinson family and your thoughts and prayers and uh rest in peace, Manny. He was a good dude, all right. Well, take our break, come back, our number two coming up here in Kentucky's Port Radio