Hour 2 – NFL Trade Deadline Postmortem, Toughest Guys in Sports

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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox Sports Radio Hour two on this Thursday, Dan and the Dan Nets Stan Patrick Show. Morale is high. Broncos at home morale is mile high. Todd, Yeah high, Okay, get it, let's get it. The Broncos the best team in the AFC West.

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Speaker 2: The Denver Broncos are currently the best team the AFC West based on the standings.

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Speaker 3: Do you think they are? Yes, Okay, I'm.

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Speaker 2: Going to be all in and say yes. They think they're a little better than the Chiefs and the Chargers.

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Speaker 3: Who's the best team in the AFC?

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Speaker 2: The best team in the AFC is the Broncos because the Cults stole one from us when they got.

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Speaker 1: The leverage we won chance the kitchen, Yeah, the leverage garbage, the leverage goal. Of course, the Raiders getting nine and a half if the Broncos don't win by at least ten. We have a Mark Davis hair piece, not his actual hair piece, but something that resembles Mark's haircut that Fritzy would have to wear all show on Friday.

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Speaker 2: And it's very funny and it looks very good. It looks very lifelike.

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Speaker 1: Stat of the Day brought to you by Panini America. The official trading cards of this program will have a new poll question. Operator standing by, actually he's sitting by. Tyler will take your phone calls eight seven to seven three DP show. It's weird how the NFL trade deadline comes and goes, and there was a lot of activity.

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Speaker 3: But we got a lot of football left.

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Speaker 1: We got half the season left, and we've talked about can they move that trade deadline back to let's say week twelve, week thirteen, maybe a late trade that could help your team as they head into the postseason run. But it's over, and then you start to think. If I'm a Buffalo Bills fan, it's like, we didn't do anything. Should we have done something? Do we have enough here? If you're the Dolphins, do you go, eh, maybe we should have traded that Jalen Waddle. The Patriots didn't do anything. But you might say, hey, I like where we are. Let's not get desperate here. Let's not do something because the Patriots have a chance here maybe to make a run. And you wonder, is there one player out there that you could have added? Where you go, he's going to make the difference. If you're the Jets. Do you go why did we hold on to Breecee Hall? Or what could we have gotten for Garrett Wilson if we got to that point, where are they part of the rebuild? Because if I'm Garrett Wilson in Breeze Hall, That'd be the first thing I would say to the coach or management, like, help me understand? Am I part of the rebuild here? Because if that's the case, that's another couple of years down the road. All right, Seaton poll question for hour two is going to be one.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, let me update you on the ones we've got up there currently. Okay, whose career would you want right now? Clayton Kershaw semi running away with that one?

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Speaker 5: Okay?

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Speaker 4: And which quarterback would you like that results? Pending on that? Your options are Tua and Kyler. We're putting that up there.

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Speaker 3: Uh a set?

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Speaker 6: Okay?

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Speaker 3: Yes, polling.

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Speaker 7: Should we change the poll a little bit because of Kershaw's championships? Weigh the pole if you said, what would you rather do for a living? Be like a ten time Pro Bowl defensive end or a three time Cy Young winning pitcher? More like a lifestyle choice.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I'd be a pitcher. Yeah, yeah, pictures, got it made.

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Speaker 6: Starting over reliever, right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, when you're good, I gotta get I have to be good for one day, that's it. If I'm a defensive player, I got to be good all game long, every game. Clayton Kershaw once every five days. The other four days, I'll do that long tossing and maybe I'll play some golf. I just remember the lifestyle for the Braves with Glavin Smoltz and Maddox, and it felt like they were playing golf just about every day they'd be on the road, they bring their clubs.

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Speaker 3: They were playing.

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Speaker 1: Now, granted those are Hall of Fame pitchers, but if you're a good pitcher, I'd say you're a good picture for ten years, or you're a great defensive player for ten years. I'll take the good picture for ten years. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Is there anything too or how much value? Maybe we're not putting any value in it, but the toughness qualities of football players over other athletes.

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Speaker 1: I'll let you take your toughness because I know what toughness is going to feel like when you're fifty, and that's the difference, kind of running yourself through the ring. My shoulder got a little arthritis, there. JJ Watt was just talking about how they were opening up his leg and you could see the boom. That's cool, yeah, when you're seeing it on somebody else. I go back to one of my knee surgeries and the doctor said, do you want to watch? And I said, watch what he goes the surgery. They were going to numb me from like the thigh down. There was a monitor and he said, you can watch the surgery and I said, knock me out, doc, no way. He goes a lot of people, you know, they wake up and they get nauseous when you know, from the anesthesia. And I said, hey, I'd rather throw up from anesthesia than throwing up watching what's inside my knee.

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Speaker 3: But he goes, I'll give you a video.

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Speaker 1: And they whatever he was drilling into my knee, i'd microfracture surgery.

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Speaker 3: It had a camera on it. And so he gives me this video and I go, what am I gonna do with this? But he was all in.

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Speaker 1: He was he was one of those guys who wanted to grow cartilage in a petrie dish. They were doing it in Germany. And he goes, would you be interested? And now I go, I just want to be able to walk. I'm not coming back.

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Speaker 8: I didn't.

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Speaker 1: I didn't have anything where I had to come back too. I'm good, but yeah, you get caught up people. I remember this, the woman who took out the stitches when I got my knee replacement, and she goes, I love this, and I was like, oh god.

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Speaker 3: Truly did.

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Speaker 1: She's snipping, you know, my stitches, and she's like, this is owesome.

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Speaker 3: I love this stuff, Like, oh, why are you whispery?

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Speaker 7: Yes, bo, I do see Seaton's point because football players are a different type of human. They enjoy inflicting pain and don't mind getting pain inflicted on them. Baseball players are really talented, I mean clearly, but they're generally like you and I. From all you know, pain tolerance standpoint.

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Speaker 1: I think every football player will say, yeah, you know, that's the way you played. Yeah it was worth it. Until you see them when they're in their forties and fifties. And I would love to know if you got and maybe it's a survey but you don't attach names to it, but you asked the players was it worth it? I'd be curious what former NFL players would say. Former NFL players who were in their fifties. If you said was it worth it? And I don't attach an aim to it, I wonder if it would be maybe a little more even, or maybe a little more in favor of those saying no, it wasn't worth it, because you also have CTE and these players who are over fifty, and then you start to see them, I'd still go back. It'll be burnt in my memory seeing Earl Campbell in a wheelchair and you watched him play, and I felt bad for the defensive players. And then here I see Earl Campbell, the great Earl Campbell, tough, and he's in a wheelchair.

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Speaker 3: Now you can see.

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Speaker 1: Roger Stallback and Roger Stallbach looks like he'd probably give you a couple of plays, and he's probably in his eighties. But you look at those guys and you just say, wow, you know the damage and it's just an accumulation. Hey, fix it, shoot it up toward all, get back in there, whatever it takes.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, football players, I think, to Paul's point, are the top of the athlete food pyramid.

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Speaker 3: What do you mean?

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Speaker 4: Because they make it to a place that most other people couldn't, and it is because of you. You essentially need two things to be a football player. You have to be an incredible athlete, and you have to be ungodly tough. You need a certain level of toughness just to play the game and to advance through it. That you need toughness in other sports, but it's not the same as football. I think football players take a lot of pride in being the top of that food pyramid. I think hockey players they are the toughest athletes. They are the toughest athletes because it's your culture that you just you know, you got hit the face, stitch me up, I'll be out in the second period, lose a couple of teeth.

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Speaker 1: I mean, hockey players are the one. I think they're the most athletic. When you think about what hockey players do, so it's on ice. First of all, it's on ice. You're on skates and you got a stick and he's got a stick, and the puck is going one hundred miles an hour. The speed, athleticism, agility, toughness, all of that and it you know, it goes at like two minute periods or spurts for these guys, sometimes a little more where you're just it's wall to wall, it's end to end, and you know the collisions, those on purpose, the fights, hight, I mean, all of that stuff. They're the toughest athletes I think collectively.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, when you described hockey just there, it seems like a flawed concept for a sport. All right, So there's a big patch of ice out here, guys, we're all going to play.

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Speaker 6: A sport on it with sticks. Cool, all right?

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Speaker 7: Now, I want you to put these shoes on that have little blades on them and try to balance yourself while you go forward and backwards and you stand over there.

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Speaker 6: We're gonna shoot pucks at your face.

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Speaker 7: No mask for another fifty years, no mask, no, no, no, fifty years from now, we'll get your mask.

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Speaker 9: Now.

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Speaker 1: It's a great point because you're somebody had to come up with this concept.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, like I when the guy typed up on the whatever years ago, and it was like, wonder what.

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Speaker 1: Well when the Native Americans came up with lacrosse. Okay, there's no helmet. You're gonna have this stick and you're gonna be whacking each other and that ball hurts if it hits you, okay, and you're gonna try to throw it into a net. Okay, I can understand that concept. Or football, Hey, you got pads on, you're not gonna have a face mask, you're gonna have a helmet on. Ish, and uh, we're gonna run the football okay, and then you tackle them.

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Speaker 3: Okay. Hockey you would have.

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Speaker 1: Been like guys at the bar and they're drunk and they're going and you know what.

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Speaker 5: We're gonna do.

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Speaker 10: And then we're gonna have blades on the what I was saying, we would have clogs. No, we're gonna have blades, and then what and then you get to hit each other with a stick and then the goalie, oh it's a goal which yeah, and he doesn't have a face mask and you can hit him if you want to.

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Speaker 9: Yes.

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Speaker 4: Hockey is so crazy that you're all your shift can only last like forty five sixty seconds because of everything that you're doing in that minute is so insane. That's one play in football, and most of it is standing around wondering, so what are we gonna do? Now, Let's wait for the coach to tell us what to do, and then we'll do that real hard for seven seconds and then we'll wait around.

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Speaker 6: Seven seconds then a meeting.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's wait, but hockey, it's like, bahbar hit that guy, but now I'm off crazy, Yes.

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Speaker 2: And fighting and bleeding and losing a bunch of teeth is some kind of badge of honor and you don't find that really in anything that possibly exists in it.

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Speaker 1: But there's nobody that you know. He Oh, he's a pretty boy, you know. Now you could say Gretzky was like that and protected, but most weren't. Yeah, I mean Ovechkin. Ovechkin looks like a Bond villain, you know, with the tooth out. I mean, and he's one of the biggest guys. Nobody's gonna question his toughness. And usually when you watch these highlights and you're like or if you're down on the ice, if you're on the glass and you see just the speed, I'm always caught up in when you get to see it up close, when you're five feet away from actually being in the play. You know, you watch NBA players and there's so much quicker, faster, bigger, stronger football players. There's collisions, they're violent, they sound violent, But hockey, I mean, it's.

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Speaker 3: That's just end to end. That doesn't that doesn't stop.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Paulie, if you look back at the violence of football. Back in like the nineteen tens and twenties, the President of the United States, Tay Roosevelt, who was not, you know, soft, he considered getting rid of football. They had to make inventions with like different padding.

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Speaker 3: Well people were dying, dying.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, in the nineteen tens and before the twenties.

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Speaker 3: We kind of frowned on that. Nowadays.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, unless you then they would have been like hockey players, you guys are soft.

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Speaker 3: If you guys are losing teeth, we're losing lives.

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Speaker 6: Eat that, eat that. But yeah, they were going to get rid of football. They had like the present put it on pause for a year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah they're soft.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah soft Brian and Tampa.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: I lasted my freshman year in football, just to let everybody know, and I never enjoyed it, never enjoyed it.

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Speaker 3: Hey Brian, Hey, good morning, Dan.

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Speaker 11: Ernest Fine Gregory Jr. The third five ten adains two thirteen this morning. So, Dan, Tuesday was election day in America and as all I was turned to it, I tried to reach out to you. But really, America is going to be focusing on most valuable and least valuable Dennetts and got to be honest and good conscience. I voted for Fritzie is most valuable because I need laughs in my life Dan, and he always seems to provide some comedy relief.

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Speaker 1: Okay, well, polling results may vary, but Todd has one most valuable and least valuable Dan at Thank you, Brian. A couple of years and in fact Todd is being rewarded for most valuable Dan at Tire Rack. One of their bosses, Dan, you know, he sent me a text saying, Hey, I want to give Fritzy four new tires. They brought the mobile tire installation here to the man Cave. So that's Fritzy's daughter's car. If you're watching on Peacock and I don't know what you get for least valuable, I suggested we take the tires back off, that we put them on, Yeah, and then we take them back on. I didn't say that you got to keep them. They were going to give them to you and then they were going to take it back.

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Speaker 2: Hopefully we could figure out something else with the least valuable part and they could leave the tire the new tires on the car.

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Speaker 3: Austin In Louisiana. Hi, Austin, Hey.

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Speaker 12: Thanks thanks calling me back.

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Speaker 13: Yeah you know, I was listening yesterday and you guys were going on about the best dates for football, and that's all cute and everything, but I would like to make my case for the worst state in football right now. And I'd like to start off with your New Orleans Saints, Dan, And could there be a worse NFL team right now? No excitement trading all our best players, a young quarterback that nobody's really behind, which is the worst place you can be. And when you have the young quarterback that nobody really even wants. And let's move over to baton rouge Dan and LSU. I mean, for the consensus best job in the sport? Could there be a bigger dumpster fire right now? Don't have a president, no ad, we get the governor doing the media around just saying Lord knows what. And for the cherry on top for the say Louisiana, Dan, let me throw out the New Orleans Pelicans, probably the most irrelevant franchise in the NBA right now. Shout out the Wizards. And then we're two and six headed for another lottery pick. And what do you know, Zion does his hamstring? What do you know about that? I'm sure he'll come back in seven to ten days, be having knee injury or a back. So look, Dan, I mean you know I would I would say to you guys, who is who is worse right now than Louisiana.

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Speaker 1: Well, you make a really strong case there, even though we were just doing football. You threw in the Pelicans, but the Pelicans make some strange moves. I'm gonna I'm gonna run down some NBA from last night. Watch a lot of Wemby, Wemby against Lakers, and the Spurs are winning and going to win until they don't win. They know, Lebron No, Austin Reeves, Luca looked great again. It's fun, fun to watch. But Wemby, Uh, he still has some moves where you damn and he's only twenty one years of age.

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Speaker 1: Guess who has the most rebounds of any NBA guard in the history of the game. If you said Russell Westbrook Junior the third you'd be correct. Eighty seven hundred and thirty four as he passes Jason Kidd for most rebounds by Garden in NBA history. He had twenty three, sixteen and ten, so he's got two hundred and four triple doubles. The Kings beat, Yes, he plays for the King, beat the Warriors. Last night Blazers were down twenty two, beat the thunder, Thunder's first loss of the season, and the Lakers went on a twenty one to ten run to beat the Spurs. They're now seven and two, best start since opening twenty ten eight in one. They're also seven and two in twenty nineteen. And then I watch a little bit of the Joker Nikola jokicch his fifth triple double this season. He went thirty three, sixteen, and fifteen against the Miami Heat.

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Speaker 3: The New Orleans Pelicans.

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Speaker 1: By the way, we just had a caller from Louisiana talking about how irrelevant they are.

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Speaker 3: And that's what you want to be.

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Speaker 1: Even if you're like, the Saints aren't messy, They're bad, but you're okay with messy because at least you're people are talking about your franchise now might not be you know, verbal bouquets. You know, the Jets are relevant. They're messy, but they are relevant. The Saints there's no pulse. Yeah, I might have you on life support, but the Saints are on you know, they don't have a pulse here. But you know the Pelicans they're doing it again. Congratulations. Now, keep in mind they made a series of moves in the offseason. They traded the Pacers pick back to Indiana for the number twenty three selection, And this is a team that could be have the number one pick in the draft and this draft will be loaded.

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Speaker 3: So what do they do.

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Speaker 1: They package that pick and their own an unprotected twenty twenty six first round pick that could be the number one pick in the draft, and they go up to get Derek Queen at number thirteen. Derek Queen has played sparingly, so you have you have some really good players that'll be available in this draft. You've got Cameron Boozer, Darren Peterson, aj Debanza, Yes, Marvin.

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Speaker 5: Don't forget Coepete the from Arizona.

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Speaker 1: Also, yeah. And these guys are all one and done. And these guys are going to be available. And here's the Pelicans, I mean they're they're not relevant. You got Zion Williamson again out, Yes, Marvin.

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Speaker 5: Well, Joe Dumars is there. Do you believe in him? It feels like he has a plan of some sort.

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Speaker 8: Mmmm.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'd like to see the plan, because was he there to make this move to move up to get Derek Queen and trade away their pick an unprotected twenty twenty six draft pick.

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Speaker 3: Those aren't good moves.

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Speaker 7: Yes, Well, the Pelicans are two and six, but they're losing their average point The French all their minus thirteen points a game. They're getting beat by thirteen points a game or outscored. The only worst teams than that, the Brooklyn Nets are getting outscored by thirteen points a game. Your Washington Wizards are getting outscored by sixteen and a half points per game.

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Speaker 6: Yes, yes, they're one and seven shots. Yes, yes, jeez, yes.

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Speaker 3: Yeah that's a shame.

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Speaker 1: But you know there's there's a reason why these teams are consistently bad. You know, do you have the coach, did you spend on the coach? You do scouting, your GM? You know there's this isn't one of those where hey, they're just spending more money than us. You just have to be really smart at what you're doing, and you get a little bit of luck. I mean, it's face it. The Spurs got lucky. You know, they got Victor wemb Yama. They got lucky with Tim Duncan. They got lucky with David Robinson. Okay, but then you surround them with really good picks. Tony Parker wasn't luck. Man who Jenobli wasn't luck? Those are the guys that's when you go, that's a really good organization. Hey we're going to take this guy Kawhi Leonard. Nobody's heard of him, and he plays really good defense. So that's where you lean on your scouts and you lean on your GM, and then you give a head coach, the ingredients to make something.

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Speaker 3: Yes, Marvin, and.

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Speaker 5: I always feel bad for the Brooklyn Nets because they're probab the most irrelevant franchise in the NBA. They don't have a real fan base. If you say, hey, I'm from Brooklyn, Oh, do you root for the Nets? Noot for the Knicks? They just got here. There's a real Nets fans I went to. I've been to three Nets games. You know what. I see the opposing jerseys. Okay.

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Speaker 1: But if I said you had to pick Nets fan, Wizards fan Pelicans, I throw the Jazz in there. Give me your order there, Marvin.

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Speaker 5: As far as being a.

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Speaker 1: Fan, I like, that would be my team, and then the next team, next team, next team.

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Speaker 5: I'd go Utah because I've seen them when they were really really good as a kid. But getting still Wizards.

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Speaker 3: Wait, Wizards would be second on your list.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they've been in DC forever.

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Speaker 3: Okay, but not good.

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Speaker 5: Pelicans.

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Speaker 6: Nets.

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Speaker 5: You act like you said the Bulls that are Lakers or somebody like that.

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Speaker 3: Uh Aiden in Utah? Hi Aiden? What's on your mind today?

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Speaker 12: How dare you throw us in there with the Wizards and the bet Dan What are you talking about?

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Speaker 3: Just right now.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm waiting for Ace to start playing well Lowry Markinen is probably going to be in another team at the trade deadline.

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Speaker 12: But other than that, speaking of the Jazz, remember my bet with Marvin that is it's off because Walker Kesler's out for the year.

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Speaker 1: No, it's not off. You lost Walker Kessler Boyds bet. No, it does not. No, injuries are part of it. Sorry, I'm getting out of that. What else do you have for me?

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Speaker 3: Aiden?

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Speaker 12: Yeah, you were talking about the rewards for you know, most valuable Dan at least valuble Dan, I have to get tires and tyreck if your most viable, well, I think the least valuable should get the tires off of the most valuable Danis car because remember Seaton's off this Tesla those were those are wires and stole those on Todd's car. That would be fun one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but Todd gets both of them.

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Speaker 1: He gets the tires and then he would be giving up the tires that are going off his daughter's car.

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Speaker 3: So Todd would have a set of both of those.

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Speaker 1: But thank you for the phone call, Uh Alex in Utah, Hi Alex, what's on your mind today?

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Speaker 14: Yeah?

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Speaker 12: That one I'm with dated. That one felt like a little bit of a low blow. I understand we're pretty relevant now, but we did have that kind of done of Micheal run. That was kind of fun.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of what I'm talking about now. I'm not talking about your history. I'm talking about now, how do you feel about your team? And now when you go to a game or watch your team? How do you feel?

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Speaker 16: No?

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Speaker 12: I yeah, no, I'm with you.

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Speaker 17: I fact, my wife is from Texas and we're we got we're getting tickets for the Spurs in Utah game and I'm like, oh, I'm for sure rooted for the Spurs. Wemby absolutely put in my allegiance leaning that at home. But hey, actually, the reason I'm calling so I don't.

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Speaker 12: Know a lot about like the IR rules.

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Speaker 17: But is there any here's what conspiracy theory had on. Is there any way that putting Kyler Murray on IR was just kind of a polite way to bench him and then they'll try to move him on the off season and I know people are gonna be like, who's gonna want that contract? And I just have two words for you, Cleveland Brown.

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Speaker 1: That's my thought on this. I'm not being a conspiracy theorist. It's more of just it feels like they want to they have a better chance of winning with Jacoby Russette, and it feels like, let's not have him on the field. It's not to have him in uniform and let's see what happens here. That that would be my thought process. As far as the Cleveland Browns, you know, once again, you got to factor into Shaun Watson, whether you want to or not. He's still on the roster, they're still paying him, and if he's able to come back and play, they're probably going to be playing Deshaun Watson. I don't know any timeframe. I've not heard anything from Mary Kay Cabot, who usually gets all that information, but Deshaun Watson might be playing this year, which is pretty crazy. Park in Fort Wayne High Park.

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Speaker 16: How are you?

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Speaker 9: Five eleven one ninety four. Yeah, I just wanted to bear thank you guys for the joy and entertainment you bring to your work. Yeah. You talk about sports and there isn't anything loud or pontificating about your approach. It just seems like you have fun with it. And I think that was personified in the earlier segment about tough athletes and the tangents that you go to just the joy that you bring to it. There's none of this. Hey, I know something, I'm going to shove it done your throat. It's just just fun to listen to you every day.

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Speaker 1: Well, thank you, Park. That's been the approach and we'll continue to be the approach. It's not a hot take. We like to call it an educated take. It's something rare. How about we try to be right with these sticks and I never you don't win arguments by the volume.

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Speaker 3: You don't.

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Speaker 1: Now, there are a lot of people who think you can because you just shout them down.

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Speaker 3: I've never subscribed to that. Well, I disagree with that.

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Speaker 1: Okay, how Jim in Michigan, Hi Jim, what's on your mind today?

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Speaker 8: Hey Dan, going back to your football and hockey analogy, I used to be the one that I used to thought football was you know way, you know, rougher and all that. But it was back in ninety six. In ninety seven season in hockey here in Detroit, would clouding the mute, but a really bad hit on Chris Draper, and it shaged my opinion because Darren McCarty warned Lem me what he was going to do to him a year later, And honestly, I mean that that that it's on YouTube and it's like one of the baddest brawls you'll ever see. And and just to think a year in advance, I mean, you know, obviously you know it was all hyped up and everything, but it kind of changed my viewpoint on that. I mean, and then everything you added to it earlier with you know, what they got to do and how they got.

00:28:26
Speaker 18: To do it.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, and then there and then there is a big waiting game when you're playing football. I mean, not that it's any you know, less you know, challenging or anything, but yeah, I would have to agree with you on that hockey analogy, just based on that alone, because it was in ninety seven when Darren got into Lemieux.

00:28:43
Speaker 3: After that year that a year ago, thank you for the phone call, Jim Scott in Salt Lake, Hi Scott.

00:28:51
Speaker 19: Hi Dan, first time, long time, six foot and a lovable three oh five. The most legendary tough guy moment in all of the sports, proving once again that hockey players are the toughest, was Game seven of the ninety one semi finals.

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Speaker 16: When Jeremy Ronick took a high stick to the face, knocked out several pieces, split open his lip. He went back to the dressing room for repairs, which has to be the toughest phrase in all sports, and then returned to the ice to score the game winning goal in overtime, sending the legendary Blackhawks to the next round of the playoffs.

00:29:33
Speaker 3: Thank you, Scott.

00:29:34
Speaker 1: Yeah, we've been around Jeremy Ronick and he has I think a titanium jaw that you can hit him as hard as you want. In the jaw he does. I don't say he encourages you, but he has said before, go ahead, punch me.

00:29:49
Speaker 3: As arm you want.

00:29:50
Speaker 5: I go.

00:29:50
Speaker 3: No, I don't want to. Yeah, see, we had him in studio.

00:29:54
Speaker 4: It's one of the things I regret most, top five, probably top three, Maybe even the most thing I regret most was punching Jeremy Ronick in the jaw while having this conversation like yeah, no, go ahead.

00:30:05
Speaker 3: And I didn't.

00:30:06
Speaker 4: I didn't punch him, punch him, but I punched him maybe harder than I should have.

00:30:10
Speaker 5: Uh.

00:30:11
Speaker 4: And it was horrifying, horrifying, And he's just totally fine. Obviously didn't care but man, I really felt terrible doing that.

00:30:19
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a different it's just a different breed, man. It just is like every toughest defensive player you can think of in football, that's what you have with hockey.

00:30:33
Speaker 3: Like you, they're all that way.

00:30:35
Speaker 1: They are just it's just different mindset and that's the culture growing up that you play.

00:30:43
Speaker 3: You know, can you skate? I think so? All right, get back out there.

00:30:48
Speaker 1: I don't know how much they really focus on CTE concussions because that's a sport that you would think that would be leading the league. Now. Granted, you lead with your helmet a lot of times when you're tackling or even running, but when you hit the ground in football and when you hit the ice in hockey and your head snaps back a lot of concussion, that's where they would call it. You got your bell rung. I remember when I was little, I'd be like, man, I'm seeing stars. You got your bell rung? Okay, like it was some great thing. I went home and I said to my dad, I said, I got my bell rung. He goes all right, like, is this a good thing?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Paul, there's a lot of things in sports where I look and go, how do they do that? But when a hockey player, a defenceman lays down in front of a slap shot to block it with his body, and I know they have pads on, they have some padding on, but you don't know where that puck is going. You go, I got to block this slap shot and you gotta go down like a seal. That's something you normal people can't do that.

00:31:49
Speaker 1: It's one hundred miles an hour with Okay, you got pads on, your pats, don't cover everything on your body, just letting you know. It's not you know, like some big styrophone, you know, inflated tube that you put around your body. It's I'm going to go down and block this thing somehow, some way, Yeah, PAULI.

00:32:08
Speaker 7: The other thing in sports where I say, there's just no way you could do that. Normal people, the punt returners when they know everyone's coming at them and they have to focus on this ball and they know they may get absolutely drilled, and you can't look down, so it's like a blind tackle coming at you.

00:32:24
Speaker 3: We'll take a break. More phone calls coming up.

00:32:26
Speaker 1: Clayton Kershaw, the former Dodger, will join us, coming up next hour It's always great to have him on and I always go back and I'm gonna bring this up to him during COVID. He was our first guest that we had during COVID, and he was just sitting in his house in his office, and I said, you have a baseball He said yeah.

00:32:45
Speaker 3: And I said, show me all the pitches that you throw.

00:32:48
Speaker 1: And he went through everything, his whole arsenal of this is how I hold this, This is how I hold this. And maybe maybe I can ask him. You know, he was throwing one pitch. Was that a slider? I think that that's all he was throwing. And he knew he wasn't fooling anybody, but I mean, he had one of the greatest curve balls in baseball history. Then all of a sudden, those things go away and you're like, and he was coming in. Dave Roberts said that yesterday Clayton was coming into that game seven. If they don't if they don't get that double play, all right, we'll take a break back after this. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live, Satan, would you update the poll results during this hour too?

00:33:42
Speaker 4: I am We've put up there. Which quarterback would you rather have? Tua or Kyler? It's tough right now. Sixty six percent of the audience would much rather have Tua Kyler. Wow, Yeah, Todd, who would you rather have?

00:33:56
Speaker 3: Kyler? Tua? I'm gonna go Kyler, Satan. I think probably Kyler Marvin Kyler.

00:34:05
Speaker 6: Tua a better drop back passer.

00:34:09
Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna say Tua. I think he knows. I think he knows how to play the position. Now I don't know how durable he is. I wouldn't want to have either one as my franchise quarterback. You know, there was no third option there. So I would say Tua because I think in the right offense, he knows what he's doing. But we're still trying to find that offense for Kyler, and and he might be one of those I have to go to another team and kind of have that reset and and maybe you know, he can forge out a great NFL or at least a good NFL career.

00:34:46
Speaker 3: Yeah, Paul.

00:34:47
Speaker 7: Based off these poll results, are people factoring into his.

00:34:51
Speaker 15: Health issues of the past, Well, they should Yeah, I mean that's that's first and foremost for me, that his health and he's he doesn't have a big arm, and he's not a scrambler.

00:35:05
Speaker 3: I get it.

00:35:06
Speaker 1: Just it's an odd combination for a guy that you're going to spend that kind of money on. You know, it's like Dylan Gabriel, not a big arm, maybe not really a big scrambler, and you know, you like how much what's the ceiling? That's what I would want to know, Yes, Pauline.

00:35:27
Speaker 7: When you go back to that twenty twenty draft, Joe Burrow obviously goes number one. Miami's on the clock. They had their choice between Tua and Justin Herbert. I would love to know in the moment what their reasoning was. I don't think you'll ever get it.

00:35:42
Speaker 6: Again.

00:35:43
Speaker 7: Two was a hot property back then. He was a different He was looked at way differently before the health issues. But I wonder what their reasoning was to pass on Herbert.

00:35:51
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean we saw glimpses with Herbert, but it was just athleticism. And I go back to that Rose Bull where I'm like, man, he's like Josh Allen. He could be a running, you know, big quarterback, and then I didn't know enough about is he an accurate passer to Sometimes you're looking at the offense that you're playing in and you have all of these great players wide receivers, and you're like, man, that guy's awesome, okay, But what happens when you have to throw somebody open, when you have to fit it in there, when you have to be able to withstand the run, Like, those are the things that that's reality in the NFL. In college, college is fun. Like if you're on a really good team and you have a couple of really good wide receivers and time to throw, college is great. That's where you see these incredible numbers where somebody's thrown for, you know, forty eight touchdowns and three interceptions. If I'm Julian saying, I'd be like, this is fun. I've got two or three of the best wide receivers in America. I got the best wide receiver in America. I'm the best football player on my team at Ohio Stick.

00:37:05
Speaker 3: I think that'd be a whole lot of fun to go to work.

00:37:07
Speaker 5: Yes, Marvin, And when you're at places like Ohio State and Alabama every single week, you have NFL level wide receivers. You're not playing NFL level corners every single game, so too, it's time for me to kill.

00:37:18
Speaker 1: Yes, I give you can't put up great numbers if you're at a big time program, that's that's a warning sign. But even when you do put up those big numbers, if you watch and you know you got guys who played the position, and you got scouts and analysts, former players, they'll say that the windows are so wide open. In the NFL, they're open and then they're shut. You got to throw somebody wide open. In college, they're wide open, yes, Paulie.

00:37:49
Speaker 7: Going back to that draft of twenty twenty, Jalen Hurts was taken in the middle of the second round by the Eagles. The draft reviews of that draft pick are not good for the Eagles. Too high to take a player that could be a high end backup. Haven't seen enough passing to take him in the second round. A lot of people thought it to be a third and fourth round guy.

00:38:07
Speaker 5: It was.

00:38:08
Speaker 6: It was heavily critiqued in the moment.

00:38:09
Speaker 1: Yeah, because you had Carson Wentz right, and then they're like, well, why would you waste a second round draft pick, high second pick on you? Know a quarterback, and they obviously knew something. Now, Jalen Hurts isn't your prototypical quarterback. I think if if he was a standalone, I'm gonna be the starting quarterback in Carolina or Tennessee or Cleveland. I don't think he stands out, but he is the right quarterback. You have to be the right quarterback for the right team, the right offense, the right coach, and he is that. And that's why when I get these, Hey who's better Josh Allen or you know, Patrick Mahomes, I'll go I got a factor in Jalen Hurts because I've seen what he does in the biggest of games and he's gone toe to toe with Patrick Mahomes. So he's not a regular season quarterback. That's one of those where you go, just disregard the numbers. He's not going to have forty touchdowns, but can he beat you? And he's proven that he can. Uh Garrett in Wyoming, Hi, Garrett, what's on your mind today?

00:39:22
Speaker 9: Hey?

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Speaker 13: Dan?

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Speaker 18: First time long time six foot in a bush lot two seventeen, Dan. I can't believe this hasn't been brought up yet, But the toughest assets in the world are not hockey players?

00:39:36
Speaker 3: Wait, are you gonna go? Bull riders?

00:39:38
Speaker 18: Are wrestlers?

00:39:39
Speaker 12: What wrestlers?

00:39:41
Speaker 8: Oh?

00:39:41
Speaker 3: Wrestler?

00:39:43
Speaker 1: Umm no, I don't think so. Yeah, PAULI a former wrestler.

00:39:48
Speaker 7: Yeah, Dan as a person who was one and seven wrestling as a freshman. Wrestling is an incredibly tough physical sport, but it's not a collision sport.

00:39:57
Speaker 6: I mean, you can get.

00:39:58
Speaker 3: You to stand up with goofy.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's very harsh and you got to be really tough, but it's not a clision sport.

00:40:06
Speaker 1: And I only have to worry about the guy who is holding on to me in hockey. I gotta worry about all these guys flying around, pucks flying around, sticks flying around.

00:40:14
Speaker 6: Never wrestle on ice. Believe me.

00:40:16
Speaker 1: I have somebody in the family tree who started wrestling. His first match was against the girl he lost, it was, and he's he's a tough little kid, you know, like a buster, and I think he's probably nine, and his first match he got pinned. Oh gosh, that's humbling.

00:40:44
Speaker 6: Do you want me to talk to him. I've been there, I've been there.

00:40:48
Speaker 3: I want to know the guy you beat.

00:40:49
Speaker 1: You were one in seven, What do you think that guy who you beat is doing now.

00:40:56
Speaker 6: He's listening right now, he's embarrassed.

00:41:00
Speaker 1: An hour on the way, more of your phone calls and we will talk to Clayton Kershaw, the former Dodger bitcher eight seven seven three DP show. We're back after this final hour on this Thursday. Dan Patrick's Show