2025-11-19- KSR - Hour 2

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Speaker 3: Welcome to two of Kentucky Sports Radio presented by Stockton Mortgage. Now Here's Matt Jones Water back.

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Speaker 4: It is HANUB two Kentucky Sports Radio A five nine two eight, twenty two eighty seven. Ks Bar has just opened. If you want to come and see us, say hi, we got folks here from all over and uh, trying to get through the misery of us together. Here's what in the world of not good timing. Tonight on CBS Sports Network at six thirty, debuts behind the Scenes Home Court with Mark Pope, A days in the Life of Pope in his home life.

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Speaker 5: Not the greatest timing in the world.

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Speaker 2: It never fails. He's like, the timing on these things are horrible.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I don't know your table.

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Speaker 6: Trailer for that last night is just walking around his neighborhood with Leanne just being happy.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well, you know that is what it is.

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Speaker 4: Shannon was saying, we were trying to figure out, you know, we're gonna be off for Thanksgiving next week, Thursday and Friday, what show should we run? And we're and usually I try to run like the best shows that have happened in the fall, but the problem is we haven't had a lot to celebrate. I think I would feel bad playing the Purdue post game thing because that would look kind of we probably would look kind of silly lap. Yeah, premature eviculation. So I think maybe we will play the after Pope was hired and after we beat Duke last year, just to kind of, you know, have a Thanksgiving memory of last year.

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Speaker 2: Maybe.

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Speaker 5: I don't know what else.

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Speaker 6: Football and basketball have just been changing so quickly. Here the highs and lows, the roller coaster we've been all in both sports.

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Speaker 5: Can I give you the uh?

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Speaker 4: Can I give you a Matt Jones our number two UH prediction bomb? Okay, and this is not this is not scooped. This is just I was going to say this either way today. I was hoping i'd be saying it after a whim. I'm gonna make your prediction. This will be Mitch Barnhart's last year's ad.

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Speaker 2: WHOA, that is a Matt Jones bomb.

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Speaker 5: That's my prediction.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not like a guarantee, but that's my That's that's my prediction.

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Speaker 2: You know that makes the decision about football coach even more And they say.

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Speaker 4: That makes it more interesting these next two weeks. Yes, because if that's true, that he will not be the a D after this year totally on his own accord. By the way I know. I mean, this isn't this is totally like I just think, he do you do you hire? Like, if they were to decide to hire a new coach, do you hire the guy if you're not going to be.

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Speaker 2: The one man can hire and walk away? Yeah, the new A d should be the guy to hire the new coach.

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Speaker 4: And you may not need to hire a new coach, but if for some reason you did.

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Speaker 2: Mm.

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Speaker 5: So that's my prediction.

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Speaker 4: You can write it down in uh in in in write it not in in eat pen, but in like disappearing that's gonna be.

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Speaker 5: That's my prediction.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 4: And I was I felt that way a few days ago, but I kind of got to where I feel more about it now.

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Speaker 2: I didn't see that one coming.

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Speaker 4: By the way, and I was sitting there thinking, he's the only ida I've had since I was doing KSR. True, Like, there hasn't been another ad since we've been doing this, which is kind of crazy if you think about it.

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Speaker 2: They hired him, what one was it one? They hired him?

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Speaker 4: Oh so he's been so anyway, new Blood will be good. I actually agree with you, even though I think he's done a pretty good job.

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Speaker 5: I think you're gonna need it. But anyway, just for what that's.

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Speaker 4: Worth, can we do a couple non UK basketball things just to cheer up a little bit? Can I give you my favorite story from yesterday?

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Speaker 2: Okay?

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Speaker 4: Yes, Well, first of all, Arkansas nearly lost to Winthrop. If you saw the end of that game, Winthrop completely blew it.

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Speaker 5: It was gonna be.

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Speaker 4: The one thing that I maybe I smiled about was that cal Winthrop was up five with the ball with a minute and fifteen seconds left kind of got screwed on an out of bounds call that was off Arkansas, but they replayed it and they didn't reverse it, which I think was a mistake. Regardless, Arkansas gets a ball, scores, cuts it to three. Win Throp misses a shot, scores cuts it to one. Winterrop comes down, turns it over. Arkansas comes gets a layup, takes the lead, and then a complete melee fight breaks out like an insane fight, and everyone is on the court. Four guys get kicked out, the place goes nuts. But here's the best part of it. Go watch the video. Everyone is out fighting, going, coaches are breaking it up.

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Speaker 5: One person does not move. Kenny Payne. Kenny Payne does not move. He doesn't try to break it up.

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Speaker 2: He doesn't.

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Speaker 4: He's just like, I'm Kenny Payne and Louisville's still paying me, and I'm good.

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Speaker 5: Gott a tea time in the morning. I'm fine.

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Speaker 4: It is one of the great it is, you know, in a video of chaos, Kenny Payne is just like, yeah, whatever, man.

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Speaker 6: Y'all do DJ got ejected. Yeah, because the people came off the bench. Yeah, just stepping on that was a crazy ending. I was hesitant to tweet about it or even talk about it because we got our own problems. Yes, but that was almost a horrible loss for them, and it would have been I don't want to pile on DJ, but he had two points and missed all his phield goals and they're still Bringinglie Thomas off the bench.

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Speaker 4: And by the way, Winthrop was one and three going into that game, just for the record, So it wasn't like they were crowd.

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Speaker 5: No one there, boy, yeah, no one, no one there? All right.

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Speaker 4: The other thing this is this is better. Did you see the picture of Bill Belichick last night?

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Speaker 2: I didn't see yuh.

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Speaker 5: Bill Belichick was spotted.

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Speaker 4: Yesterday in Raleigh at an adult cheerleading competition that his girlfriend was in. Jordan Hudson was competing in an adult cheerleading competition and he was there first of all, points for being the supportive boyfriend, right.

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Speaker 2: Right, He's do what you gotta do.

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Speaker 4: Sometimes it points for being a supportive I didn't know adult cheerleading was a thing. I I don't know if I would like to go to adult cheerleading just to see who's doing it, or if I would like be scared of the people that are doing it. The picture showed men and women adult cheerleading. This is and it's only somebody looked it up. It's only for people who still want to cheerlead outside of college, but do not cheerlead for a professional team.

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Speaker 5: So it's a very niche group of people.

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Speaker 1: It's like pick up cheerleading cheering for.

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I think you go to the YMCA and cheer for the teams playing at the MC.

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Speaker 5: I'm in a church league of cheerleaders. We get together on Wednesday nights and just cheer. So what do you think about?

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Speaker 4: First of all, let's say let's say you're dating someone. Leave aside that it's you know, he's seventy one and she's twenty five.

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Speaker 5: Lead that aside.

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Speaker 4: You're dating someone in and she is in pick up cheerleading, Do you have to go?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I think you gotta go. You gotta go be a supportive significant other. Absolutely, it's important to her that it should be important to you. Sometimes you have to go to these things. Sometimes you have to go to a Sean Castidy concert. Sometimes you have to go to adult I don't think.

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Speaker 5: Those are the same things.

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Speaker 4: I mean, Sean Cassidy is embarrassing in a different way, but it's not like it's not adult cheerleading.

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Speaker 2: But we do the things as a good boyfriend, good husband should do and he daddy's boyfriend.

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Speaker 6: Now I was thrown off by adult cheerleading. The man next to her in the photo, I think he was working at Auto Zone this morning when I went and got wifer blades. He looks like he's forty something he does, so they're.

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Speaker 2: All dolled up.

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Speaker 5: Said night.

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Speaker 4: If you're a general boyfriend, you have to go to adult cheerleading.

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Speaker 5: But if you're a celebrity, do you look at your girlfriend and go.

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Speaker 4: I cannot during the middle of the season be seen at an adult cheerleading contest.

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Speaker 5: We have a game Saturday. Things aren't going well for my team.

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Speaker 4: I'm sorry, I love you, but I'm going to have to skip the adult cheerleading competition.

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Speaker 5: Can you do that?

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Speaker 2: Well? Maybe this was the only one of the season, Maybe this was a big one. Maybe he felt like this is his only chance. I gotta go. It's on a Tuesday night. We got so are you going?

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Speaker 5: Are you going?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I'm going?

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Speaker 5: True? Are you going? Yeah? But I'm not Bill Belichick either, Shannon? Are you going?

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Speaker 3: That's the question about Bill Belichick or Shannon?

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Speaker 4: That's good point, Shannon, Well, I mean you are Shannon the dude in Kentucky.

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Speaker 5: You are the dude. Yeah, you're going.

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Speaker 3: I got other things going on tonight.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, but if he doesn't go, he's probably getting slammed for not going.

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Speaker 4: In supporting No, there's not going to be a story he didn't go to the adult cheerleading competition.

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Speaker 5: I think that's good.

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Speaker 4: If I were in this situation and in Kentucky, I'm going, But a fake mustache.

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Speaker 3: Must story because he did go.

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Speaker 4: If he didn't, got a story about don't go, you wouldn't even know it happened, right right?

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Speaker 5: Yes? How about her? Though? She's a celebrity in her own right.

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Speaker 4: Can you imagine you're just in the Raleigh Adult cheerleading League and she shows up to be in it. That's gotta be the biggest thing to ever happen to Raleigh adult cheerleaders.

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Speaker 6: I'm watching their performance right now when I've watched this last night.

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Speaker 5: If she went to party, no, I.

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Speaker 4: Would have never imagined Raleigh had enough adult cheerleaders that they would.

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Speaker 2: Have a league.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, a bowling league, I would think, but an adult cheerleading league.

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Speaker 6: I not apologize to my car mechanic. He's actually got some moves here. They're pretty good. I expected it to be much worse now they are pretty good. Yeah, sorry about that.

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Speaker 2: Well they're flipping people everywhere.

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Speaker 5: Wow, well, good for them. And and Bill was there. Who's up next? LEVI go ahead? Hello, Yes, go ahead.

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Speaker 7: I had just one comment and then a question.

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Speaker 5: Okay.

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Speaker 7: I don't know if it's you guys kind of referred to. I don't know if it's roster construction or just the rotation Pope is putting out there, but I kind of feel like last off season, he by the time he hit the portal hold on sorry, by the time he hit the portal, a lot of the top talent was gone. Yeah, yeah, probably my father's running around crazy. I'm gonna get to it. By the time he got to the portal, a lot of the top talent was gone. And uh, I think this off season, uh he kind of just uh I thought he had a stuck Pyle talent rather than.

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Speaker 5: Uh, well he did have to stop. I mean, let's be real.

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Speaker 4: The guys that have played the best, I mean, Aberdeen has probably been our best, you know, guy Diabat. So it's actually and I appreciate the call the returners who've been disappointed. You know, for all the people that complain, oh it's the portal, it's in il our portal. Guys are doing okay. It's our returners that are struggling. Oway and Garrison are struggling. Low got hurt, but I mean Cam Williams struggled some.

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Speaker 2: Of the year. Thing to not get better. They got worse.

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Speaker 5: But like.

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Speaker 4: I mean, we've seen nothing from Noah Owayen Garrison got worse. I mean, Chandler's played well. So really Chandler's the only returner who's really played well.

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Speaker 2: When Pope has preached the players take a step up in year two in his system, three of the four guys seem to have taken a step back in this system. So just so far, so far.

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Speaker 4: I mean, if you were to say, Okay, Matt, who are you really pleased with how they've played? I would say the only person that has performed higher than I thought they would is Malachi Moreno, and then Chandler has been kind of what I thought he would.

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Speaker 5: He's been good. I expected him to step up and he's been good.

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Speaker 4: But if we're being honest, and I know it's early, Aberdeen's been all right, although a lot of airballsways been a disappointment. Garrison's been a disappointment. I think Jasper has not been great. He's had moments, but then not he took he took a couple of bad shots yesterday. Yelevick's been pretty good, I guess, not maybe what I thought he was gonna be because I kind of didn't think he would play. Cam's kind of been a disappointment except for that little run against Louisville.

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Speaker 2: So Malachi had the best plus minus and players have played twenty minutes or more than.

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Speaker 4: Malachai would be our MVP right now in my opinion, I mean, Aberdeen probably would win it because he scored the most points. But if you're just telling me who's been better relative to my expectation, it would have been Malaka.

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Speaker 2: Tyfer team high four rebound, ty for team high three assists.

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Speaker 5: I mean that's a bad sign. By the way, Ty for a team high four rebound.

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Speaker 2: Those a team high. Two of those were offensive rebounds.

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Speaker 5: You know when your most rebounds are four, that's a bad sign.

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Speaker 6: Well that's that's why Garrison, it's it's time to sit. You've had plenty of opportunities to prove you can rebound, and you're not doing it. And they needed bad. Chandler is still shooting fifty two percent from three on almost forty attempts, and like fifty five percent from the field. I mean, he makes mistakes. He had some bad fouls last night that were, you know, far from the basket. He's far from perfect, but he's the only one making shots.

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Speaker 4: He's been good. He's been good, by the way. So do you all think if we don't get low back, can this be turned around?

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Speaker 6: I still think so. And now you know me, I'm not the guy that brings up the money, but this is a deep roster to be able to withstand injuries. I know that's the one spot where you don't have a true too deep, but you still have plenty of bodies to not be down by twenty four and twenty in your first two meaningful games.

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Speaker 2: I don't like the offense as much with Aberdeen running the point though. It seems to be out of sync and it's not as efficient. And then as we saw the light go on, it's the minute Low stepped on the floor. So I took out some issues about the offensive execution with the Aberdeen being our guy.

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Speaker 4: Is payn stiffness or a numbing sensation been? And you from enjoying watching your favorite teams compete? Oh, yes, you didn't have to say it was such sensuality.

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Speaker 2: He looks good? Is that a burger.

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Speaker 5: Did you get a burger? I thought you told me you were getting vegetarian.

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Speaker 2: You got the veggie burger, which is really good.

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Speaker 5: It's good, yes, vegibar.

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Speaker 4: I was just about to say you you playing the role of vegetarian and then you don't do it.

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Speaker 5: I understand. We'll take a break and right back. This is KSR.

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Speaker 4: Welcome back, TEKEI Sports Radio uh A five nine two eight oh twenty two eighty seven. Text machine is seven seven two seven seven four five two five four one person rights Matt, who would have predicted three weeks ago the football would be on the upswing and we would.

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Speaker 5: All be down on basketball. Well that is a massive change.

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Speaker 4: I mean, imagine after the Purdue game, US saying that Mark Pope would be getting criticism and Mark stubs people going well maybe, I mean, you know, we'll see what happens.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, coming off the Tennessee blowout loss at football, then you beat Purdue number one in basketball.

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Speaker 4: That was that was two days like that was what he has a weekend. Right we played Purdue on Friday and Tennessee on Saturday. Imagine on Sunday, I would have told you three weeks later this.

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Speaker 5: Is where we would be.

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Speaker 6: And then on Thursday they brought the annabel doll on to Reparena and we lost to Georgetown the next day and nothing's been right since.

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Speaker 2: That's the answer, the Annabelle doll.

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Speaker 5: Oh you think it's the Annabelle.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, the day before the Georgetown game.

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Speaker 2: You made fun of it. See, you don't mess around with stuff like that.

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Speaker 6: I mean, the BB and United tip Off Classic Present about Kentucky tourism was fun, but it's no laughing matter anymore because we absolutely sucked against Georgetown, Louisville and Michigan State.

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Speaker 5: Shane, do you think it was the annabel doll?

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Speaker 3: That's your fault for openly mocking her?

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Speaker 2: Yep?

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Speaker 5: On the Airfess, don't say openly. I didn't. I'm not the one who brought the doll about her?

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Speaker 3: He said, yeah, right, the stupid doll. Then we lost, and then our players got hurt too.

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Speaker 2: That's when Lowe got hurt.

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Speaker 5: Night he got hurt. Low did get hurt that night, didn't he?

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Speaker 2: He did?

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Speaker 3: And that started this whole thing.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Anible got hurt in the No I rolled his ankle. Low got hurt in the Blue White game. Was that that was the week before. That was a week before, but uh yeah, I mean things haven't been good since then.

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Speaker 4: Real quick, just a second about football. I mean, are you Vandy in three days? Do you think we can win?

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Speaker 6: Is Pabi gonna be there or is he going to be in a UFC fight with THEO Vaughn and Cam s Kataboo.

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Speaker 2: That dude is never in Nashville anymore. It makes me think maybe his head is elsewhere. Maybe they gotta go out and they have makes Maybe he'll make some mistakes. What happens if we.

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Speaker 5: Win that game? Like, seriously, what happens if we win?

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Speaker 6: If we were going into the Louisville game, we're winning the little game, they'd be's gonna build a statue at Mark stupid or not?

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Speaker 4: You got to stop with the statues. We're not building the statue. I don't know where this somehow you I think.

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Speaker 5: It's your fault.

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Speaker 4: Somehow we've gotten associated with this building a statue thing. I don't think we ever said we were built. I don't think I never said poops, and I never said anybody's building this statue.

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Speaker 2: But you did make fun of Annabelle, and we're gonna.

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Speaker 5: Blame make fun of Annabelle.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but what is that same night, By the way, it was that same night that he got injured, that the Annabell.

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Speaker 4: Annabelle Dolls the same night as the Blue White game, which was the week before. Okay, Shannon's right, it was the night because remember that's why I mean we did we played the Blue White game at Memorial, which is why they were able to do it.

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Speaker 6: We can't blame her then if they destroyed Perdue after that.

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Speaker 3: Neither didn't count. She knew that she was just playing with her emotions.

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Speaker 5: I'm just I'm gonna go back to blaming Pope. Okay, what about people who are saying that that Mark Pope.

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Speaker 4: If you look at games against Power for conference opponents, our last games against power for conference opponents were twelve and twelve.

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Speaker 2: Is that? Where are you? Well? Last year, off of our non conference Power four appoints, we only lost one game, right, No, we lost two lost two we lost to That's right. Well, we thought last night was supposed to be the easiest of these non conference Power four games this year, and we got one off the floor.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, what happens if I mean we still you gotta we play North Carolina, Indiana, Gonzaga, and Saint John's Gonzaga, who looks really good right now? Now two of those games are at home. But what if we lose all these games? I mean, is there a world where, like I don't want to bring this upisode, where where we don't make the NCA.

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Speaker 5: I mean that that world exists. I think that's still unlikely.

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Speaker 2: But if you go through that slay without one of.

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Speaker 5: Those games, do you feel like we're definitely gonna win?

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Speaker 2: Indiana probably the next most winnable game. I would think of those, I mean, we.

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Speaker 5: Got to win some of these games. We can't lose them all.

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Speaker 2: I can tell you that if we lose all six, I think most of us thought we'd have two, maybe three losses going into conference play. Now we're looking in.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I look at.

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Speaker 4: These next four and go you get North Carolina, Indiana, Gonzaga, and uh John Saint John's. Like if if I if I told you now, I can promise you X wins and you'll be happy two two of the four, I take it. Would you rather have two guaranteed wins or roll the dice and play them all?

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Speaker 2: I'm after last night, I'm taking two guaranteed.

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Speaker 5: Who I think I'm taking two guaranteed wins.

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Speaker 2: Give me North Carolina and Indiana at home. Gonzaga's in Nashville, Saint John's in Atlanta, and we can kind of maybe blow those off a little bit.

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Speaker 3: What do you think I would probably take the two right now?

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Speaker 2: I mean I would take the two.

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Speaker 3: Indiana's only played Marquette, but they did beat them by twenty three on the road.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think any of these games, well, I don't think I thought Michigan State was.

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Speaker 2: Gonna be Those are the easiest one of all of them, right, so, and we got run off the floor.

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Speaker 6: Well, I keep thinking about, Yes, it was nice beating Duke and Gonzaga last year, but it seems like in every big game we've played, they've gone down and been down big at halftime. Now, it's great that they come back, but we can't just expect to have comeback. And every single significant going through.

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Speaker 4: First half double digit deficits in the Mark Pope era, Duke, Gonzaga, Clemson, Ohio State, all the non conference games last year of meaning we were down double digits in the first half, all of them, every one of them twice to Alabama Arkansas.

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Speaker 6: Hold on, how about going to Old Miss and you're not even in it in the first half. Yeah, that game was over before halftime.

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Speaker 4: But even I'm just saying marquee opponents Alabama, Old Miss, Arkansas in a C in the NCAA Tournament, Louisville this year, Michigan State. That's like ten marquee games, and we won a couple of them. But that's ten marquee games where we've been down double digits in the first.

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Speaker 6: Half, down fifteen at Georgia at halftime, down god knows what Old Miss, not just the market games.

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Speaker 2: So let's let's just choose last night as example. I heard somebody on your postgame shows said they weren't ready to play. They came out, they were ready to play.

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Speaker 4: It was But you know the pattern in all of those games, though, is we come out ready to play. This is why I said the mass substitution. Yep, we come out ready to play.

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Speaker 5: Go back to Duke, go back to Louisville, Michigan State, go back to all these games. It's like Todd or we have the lead, we do the mass substitution.

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Speaker 2: We're down ten, right, And that's exactly what happened last night, mass substitution. Next time I look up, we're down to fourteen points.

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Speaker 6: Down fourteen at half time to Vanday.

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Speaker 5: Last year a Louisville games. In the Louisville game, we pulled.

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Speaker 4: Early, put Low in, We go on a run. Then they took Low out and they put in all five subs and we got down ten.

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Speaker 2: So, but you know that's his way. He coacheslytic.

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Speaker 4: Some things make but what analytic is saying start every game down ten? I can't imagine there's an analytic telling him that's correct.

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Speaker 2: Nope, that's what Cal did with reading Rob on the bench.

00:23:21
Speaker 5: Yeah. I believe he likes analytics. But some point the numbers say what they do. We'll be right back. TJ. Smith, personal injury attorney called TJ. He'll make them pay.

00:23:32
Speaker 2: Now.

00:23:33
Speaker 3: More of Kentucky Sports Radio presented by Stockton Mortgage. Here's Matt Jones.

00:23:37
Speaker 4: Welcome back, Tukey Sports Radio Aff nine two twenty two eighty seven. One person says Matt, with Kentucky playing two bad opponents coming up, don't you change the lineup and get guys like Moreno and Jasper more minutes against these teams?

00:23:51
Speaker 5: Maybe?

00:23:52
Speaker 4: Certainly certainly Moreno, I need to see more from Jasper before I'm ready to say.

00:23:57
Speaker 5: Because I don't. I mean, and the reality is, if Owa doesn't play well this year, we're just gonna stink. So I don't think like not.

00:24:05
Speaker 4: I don't think benching Oway does us any good, because without him we're not gonna be good. But I do think you can substitute Garrison. You can substitute Marino for Garrison.

00:24:15
Speaker 2: Beyond think about Jess maybe be better. Jess may have taken a bad shot, but he in nine minutes, he had a team high three assists him Reno both had three assists. Those two guys, I think he is a good facilitator that maybe he does deserve more minutes. For that reason.

00:24:28
Speaker 4: Only one person rights, Matt, You and Drew did whole shows saying we should build a statue for stoops.

00:24:35
Speaker 5: That narrative started with KSR your line. If you say otherwise, I mean, no, you're line. First of all, I don't think I ever said we should build a statue.

00:24:44
Speaker 4: I may have said it like metaphorically, but I certainly did A didn't do a whole show. Say let's feel I didn't like do a fundraiser saying, let's build a statue for Stoops.

00:24:56
Speaker 5: So and I don't think Drew did either.

00:24:58
Speaker 6: Actually, I still think that should recognize Stoops to the stadium that hasn't changed. Maybe not a statue of him waving in front. I still think they should do something. Best coach you've ever had, he.

00:25:09
Speaker 5: Like, what would you do if you wouldn't do a statue?

00:25:11
Speaker 4: Let's say he let's say he finishes six and six and then he retires or moves on.

00:25:16
Speaker 5: What would you do eventually? Direct?

00:25:18
Speaker 6: It would need a little time, but we can't act like he didn't take us to heights we'd never been to before.

00:25:23
Speaker 2: So what would you do? Like maybe that recruiting room in the end zone, maybe call it the Mark Stoops recruiting Room or something.

00:25:28
Speaker 6: You know, he needs something, just like I think John Caliperry needs something. I mean, they both have done great things. I'm not saying they need to be the have their name on the arena or have this gigantic like the Michael Jordan statue at the United Center, but I think they should be recognized in tom in some form.

00:25:43
Speaker 5: Stoops will one day beyond the thing where we have with the names.

00:25:47
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd go.

00:25:48
Speaker 5: Bigger than that, though.

00:25:49
Speaker 2: I mean, we named a road after how Mummy how Mummy pass.

00:25:53
Speaker 5: That's true, but it's not named that now. Uh.

00:25:55
Speaker 4: One person rights, what's more likely we win our in the next four non conference games against Indiana, Carolina, Gonzaga, and Saint John's.

00:26:04
Speaker 5: Or we beat Vandy and Louisville and football.

00:26:08
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go beat and Louisville and Louisboy football.

00:26:12
Speaker 4: To be honest with you, I think it's probably more likely, which is crazy to think we would have like we wouldn't have said that two weeks ago.

00:26:19
Speaker 5: But I actually think it is.

00:26:21
Speaker 2: That's right if you'd asked this question a couple weeks ago. I'm thinking there's no way our football team can pull this off now with what's happening with Vandy and Louisville's kind of trending the other way. Absolutely, those games seem more winnable than win those four basketball games.

00:26:34
Speaker 6: I think the last two basketball losses are worse than just maybe the Tennessee football loss. But the football team hasn't been winning. We know that, but they were in games. You were down twenty four to Michigan State team they name score a lot of points.

00:26:46
Speaker 5: In twenty to Louisville.

00:26:47
Speaker 2: That's worse than what the football team was doing. To me. Yeah, the defensive strategy to let them shoot three pointers last night was not a good defensive strategy.

00:26:54
Speaker 4: One person rights, Matt, What if we have a bad year, do you think that affects the amount of money people would give for INIOL for future years.

00:27:04
Speaker 5: That's hard to say.

00:27:05
Speaker 2: I mean.

00:27:07
Speaker 8: No, but.

00:27:10
Speaker 5: You know, I don't know. That's hard to say.

00:27:12
Speaker 4: First of all, there won't be as much money next year just because you're not getting the double dip. Remember this, the kids who played basketball this year got an advantage that no other year will get. They got paid from two sources. They got paid the unlimited private money from the old system and the rev share from this system. In the future, that's not gonna happen. So in the future it's gonna be like, No, there's never gonna be more money than was in the sport this year. So I think inevitably the answer to that question is no, but it won't be the same. But I do think that Kentucky basketball will always be able to raise money.

00:27:53
Speaker 2: In my opinion, yes, they were raising money long before NIOL. They're gonna raise a lot of money after this. Yeah, and like we said, Jasper, you know, maybe a two year deal. Malachi is maybe a two year deal. Two year deal.

00:28:04
Speaker 4: By the way, something I Mitch Barnhart. I think this is something people should know. A lot of people don't know. This is in the contract. The contract for Mitch Barnhart says beginning July first, twenty twenty six.

00:28:17
Speaker 5: Now, remember that's next year.

00:28:20
Speaker 4: Barnhart can within with six months notice, elect to step down from the role of athletics Director, at which time he would assume the position of Special Assistant to the President for two years at a salary of eight hundred thousand dollars annually. Now, what is six months before July first, twenty twenty six?

00:28:42
Speaker 5: January?

00:28:45
Speaker 2: What February first?

00:28:48
Speaker 5: Is it January February? It's January.

00:28:50
Speaker 2: January.

00:28:50
Speaker 5: It's January. Yeah, you had me. I was like, that's a terrible answer, But then you had such confidence.

00:28:55
Speaker 4: I didn't know January first, So you know, the timeline of he could say on January first, I'm stepping down, and then they spend time figuring it out, you know, just not saying I'm just saying that provision which gives him eight hundred thousand dollars a year to.

00:29:14
Speaker 5: Do nothing, which, by the way, is an interesting provision A lot of people didn't rise was probably in there.

00:29:20
Speaker 4: It's exciting we have a Hey, here's eight hundred thousand dollars to hang out.

00:29:25
Speaker 5: That provision kicks in with notice January.

00:29:29
Speaker 4: First, so he could come out January first and say I'm finishing the year as ad We're gonna go on a search. But then I'm done, and then that starts. I'm not saying, I'm just saying, and.

00:29:42
Speaker 2: Then he would still kind of be around for the new coaching regime that maybe he's if they make a change, if he brings in somebody new.

00:29:49
Speaker 4: But it is awkward to do that and hire a coach. I mean, you're gonna have to hire a coach who kind of knows you're not gonna be his boss. How many coaches come work and they don't know who they're basing?

00:30:00
Speaker 5: True, you know, I don't know. Maybe there's a lot, but but that's so. I just think that's a provision people should know is in the UH, is in the contract? Who's next?

00:30:09
Speaker 9: Lee?

00:30:10
Speaker 2: Lee?

00:30:10
Speaker 5: Go ahead?

00:30:11
Speaker 9: Lee, Good morning, KSR. And Hey, Matt on the Belichick think no comment. Mitch his time to go, and obviously he made his own contract along with cal Ferries and Stoops. And uh, I've got a couple of things obvious about UK and then one thing about last night's game. The two things obvious, and I think I've heard somebody says before the volleyball team is the best team and the best coach of the UK.

00:30:41
Speaker 5: Yes.

00:30:42
Speaker 4: By the way, on the volleyball thing, Craig Skinner was just named UH SEC Coach of the Year. Eva Hudson was just named SEC Player of the Year. H Skinner has won the SEC Coach of the Year three times. Kentucky has now had the player of the Year in the conference four times in the last five years, so UH congratatives him.

00:31:01
Speaker 9: And still the only team in the SEC to win the national championship and they're gonna get another one this year.

00:31:06
Speaker 8: Uh.

00:31:06
Speaker 9: The other thing that's obviously is that uh Pope kind of got a kind of got a pass on losing COL last year. But I think the honeymoon's way over by now, So it's that's the other thing. And last night I sat there. I've been a lifelong friend and I still don't think the season is dead but last night's analogy, I looked at it looked like a ship without a rudder, no idea what to do. When they showed him, he was standing there thinking, and it looked like he was going, maybe I should have practiced.

00:31:43
Speaker 5: We lost right there. I appreciate the call ship with I agree with that analogy.

00:31:48
Speaker 4: A ship without a runner, I would add, and a captain who looks like he has scurvy, you know.

00:31:57
Speaker 2: And just in the pregame, the way the game comments, his voice sounded horse like, you know, like he did sound horse So I don't know, is that from maybe he's screaming.

00:32:06
Speaker 3: Maybe screaming you're saying it looks like he had fatigue, gum disease and easy bruising.

00:32:11
Speaker 4: That scurvy Why I had gum disease? But I do think he had fatigue and looked like he could be easily Is that like I think it's like a lack of vitamin C?

00:32:22
Speaker 5: Right, is scurvy?

00:32:24
Speaker 9: Is that what it is?

00:32:26
Speaker 2: Is it?

00:32:26
Speaker 7: What b d?

00:32:29
Speaker 5: Okay, it's a lack of vitamin D.

00:32:31
Speaker 4: I know it's something about you're not getting nutrients because they get it out on ships. And it does seem like our team is not getting their nutrients at least their basketball So need the checks.

00:32:40
Speaker 2: Gums, Maybe he doesn't.

00:32:42
Speaker 5: Gums, don't be weird. Who's next? Mark? Mark? Go ahead?

00:32:47
Speaker 2: Mark?

00:32:50
Speaker 5: What's up?

00:32:52
Speaker 8: Hey? Real quick? Hey, I've got a couple of things that I think I see as the root cause one this roster constructions. Well, we have one of the tallest teams and we can't get offensive rebound to save our soul.

00:33:04
Speaker 5: That's true. Yeah, that is a good point. We have got we have to have the most height.

00:33:09
Speaker 4: Maybe not against Michigan State they have a lot of height, but against most teams, we have a lot of height and we do not get rebounds, which is a problem.

00:33:15
Speaker 5: But go ahead.

00:33:17
Speaker 8: Second thing is, which I think is the root of the true problem, in my opinion, is kind of piggyback on last week. We're talking about elite talent. And the reason why I say this, I think we have a team made up of average to above a lot of average to above average players, and we went into the portal got these guys, and the way I look at it is elite talent. When they get to UK, they say, hey, I'm on the biggest age, but they want something more. They want the NBA. These guys have actually hit their lottery ticket when they got the UK.

00:33:49
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you'll say that, then how do you explain last year? Okay, because I look at it as last year. We're a lot of guys like that. They hit their lottery ticket going to the UK, but they wanted to prove they deserve to be here. So I don't think that's I actually think guys like a Jayalen Lowe.

00:34:11
Speaker 5: Are kind of guys you kind of want because they, in theory appreciate being here, Whereas I mean.

00:34:17
Speaker 4: Let's be real, the two most disappointing players I want to keep, everybody can blame and I own the portal you want, who are the most two most disappointing players taking the two guys who are returning, I don't know how you can blame the portal when are two players that are struggling the most are our returners.

00:34:35
Speaker 8: But these guys, I think they're all complain I see maybe two, possibly three NBA players on that enough to say that's the end.

00:34:42
Speaker 2: All.

00:34:42
Speaker 4: I said that all guys right now, I said that all summer I got I've gotten roasted for two years for saying we don't have NBA players.

00:34:49
Speaker 5: We don't.

00:34:51
Speaker 8: We don't these guys right now there you talk about playing on for the front of the jersey or the back of their I think they've already played for the back of the jersey because right now they're making great money.

00:35:01
Speaker 5: Okay, But I'm just.

00:35:02
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna let I'm not gonna listen to people blame this stuff on the inn ail.

00:35:07
Speaker 5: The rest of these teams are playing well, Okay.

00:35:10
Speaker 8: I mean issue though, Matt, it's it's a it's effected the issue of like, for instance, a Dizel Aberdeen. He was great at Florida last year, but he was a fiss option. We're asking him to be our best or second.

00:35:23
Speaker 4: But that's a different point. Though, that's a different point that they may not be good enough. But you're saying they've already hit their lottery tickets so they don't care. I don't believe that. I don't believe that saying they don't care.

00:35:34
Speaker 8: I'm just saying the drive they've already reached, they're probably the pinnacle as far as playing basket.

00:35:40
Speaker 5: Then how do you explain Kobe Braya?

00:35:41
Speaker 4: Then how do you explain Kobe Brea, Maury Williams and all those guys who reached.

00:35:45
Speaker 5: Their pinnacle last year and played great. How do you explain that.

00:35:51
Speaker 8: A good point?

00:35:52
Speaker 5: Okay, I mean, I appreciate the call. I'm just saying we steam right now.

00:35:56
Speaker 4: But to make systematic, like systematic declarations based on the fact we steak ignores that last year we had a team just like this that played their tail off and they reached their maximum potential and they just weren't good enough, but they played as hard as they could.

00:36:15
Speaker 2: Drew.

00:36:16
Speaker 4: This team is not playing as hard as they can and they're not reaching their maximum potential.

00:36:20
Speaker 5: And that's what's frustrating.

00:36:22
Speaker 6: And you know that about the two biggest disappointments. It was already kind of a gamble bringing Brandon Garrison out back to be your starting center. A lot of people didn't want that, but you think, all right, if he just takes a step forward, maybe he can get close to what they need. But at your starting center, and what's the averaging like five points four rebounds, that's a guy who prioritized That's one of many problems with Oway being the other leader. He has not been anything close to the SEC preseason Player of the.

00:36:46
Speaker 2: Year and the whole team, the whole roster was built around Jalen Lowell being your point guard and your best player and the facilitator, and you rip him out and they've just not found a way to recover from that yet.

00:36:56
Speaker 4: But yes, I agree with that, but I don't don't care if you have jail and low or not. You shouldn't have gotten that result you got last night. No, you should still inexcusable and.

00:37:06
Speaker 6: Low played at louisll when they were getting smoked. I know you had just come off the injury, but you know he was part of the problem there late in the game.

00:37:12
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00:38:14
Speaker 5: You wanted.

00:38:15
Speaker 4: We wanted to note the passing of former Kentucky football player Randy Burke.

00:38:20
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was a receiver in the eighties and at the ear eies seventies it wren an there where they didn't throw the ball much, and yet he was a first round draft pick of the Baltimore Colts. I got to know him when he was working at the sales department over Channel twenty seven. To be KYT just really involved with the community, really involved with UK. Just a super super guy, and I was saddened to hear the news that he had passed away.

00:38:41
Speaker 5: This first round pick.

00:38:42
Speaker 4: Only that like only had like a very small amount of catches at UK, but went to the Senior Bowl, crushed it and ends up being a first round pick passed away at You said you knew.

00:38:53
Speaker 6: Yeah, I know him a little bit too, knew some some of his family. First met him when I was working at Malon's. I waited on him, but then did some events with him too, So, like Ron, I was very surprised and saddened to see that news last night.

00:39:03
Speaker 2: I give one more shout out if you would like Gary Kidwell, longtime sports guy up at Lewis County, famous in that part of the state. He also recently passed away. Just a super guy, always at Upperna, always up in the press box at Crogerfield.

00:39:16
Speaker 5: Just I had.

00:39:16
Speaker 2: It may be sad too to see that he had passed away.

00:39:19
Speaker 4: I'm also I'm going to completely steal Bill Simmons' idea, which I did for my entire career, so I feel like I can do it now as well. He did something he used to do that was he would do a podcast every few weeks where he would like just take people's questions.

00:39:38
Speaker 5: I want to do that for the Interrupted potas.

00:39:40
Speaker 4: So people sometimes will ask me on the text machine when I think about this or that. It can be sports, it can be news, it can be politics. It just can't be UK stuff. So I'm not gonna, I mean, I do the UK stuff on this show. So from the end of the show today until tomorrow morning seven seven to seven seven four five two five four, if you write a question tomorrow, I'm gonna tape the Interrupted podcast and answer people's questions. You can ask opinion on whatever, like this is your chance to ask if you want to ask a dirty, stinking liberal question or if you just want to ask about something else. I'm I'm glad to do it, and I'm gonna do that as our Interrupted podcast tomorrow.

00:40:19
Speaker 2: I like that good idea.

00:40:20
Speaker 4: Seven seven two seven said, but wait till after the show today so I can see it.

00:40:24
Speaker 5: All right, who's next, shit, let's go to Jason. Jason, I got about a minute, go ahead.

00:40:30
Speaker 6: Yeah, just real quick.

00:40:31
Speaker 10: I missed the early part of the show, But did I see right last night in the first half that I think we were doing an inbounds play and the camera had Coach Pope in the background, and he had his cell phone out and look like he put it in his back left pocket. Now, it could have been a cue card, it could have been a play sheet. I don't know, but it looked like to me, it looked like a cell phone. I'm thinking, why does he have his cell phone even on him much less out?

00:40:52
Speaker 5: Yeah, I didn't see that. Do you know something out?

00:40:54
Speaker 6: I didn't see that, But I would be shocked if you pulled out a cell phone. I would guess some kind of notes. Yeah, but I didn't see it, so who knows.

00:41:00
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, you know, sometimes you want to play candy crush, I mean, like the game until those timeouts are long, they it happen.

00:41:07
Speaker 2: People are making a lot of a big deal about Pope's body language on the side.

00:41:10
Speaker 5: How could you not?

00:41:11
Speaker 4: I mean, he he gave he gave me zero confidence. And that's a guy who I've who I has been really good at giving me confidence. I came out of last night going genuinely, I'm like, man, is that all right?

00:41:27
Speaker 5: Like that's that's how I was last night, And I didn't didn't like being like that.

00:41:31
Speaker 6: Fans are supposed to panic and look like that. He's supposed to be the one that's supposed to be calling and collected, and we we're looking at the TV and he looks terrified.

00:41:38
Speaker 2: It's like, oh, how bad is this?

00:41:39
Speaker 10: Yeah?

00:41:39
Speaker 4: I mean if you look at your leader and your leader looks scared, then you're gonna be nervous too. Are we gonna be in three weeks after we play Gonzaga in Nashville or four weeks?

00:41:50
Speaker 5: Are we gonna feel better?

00:41:52
Speaker 4: Uh?

00:41:52
Speaker 2: Yes, they'll rebound and beat Indiana North Carolina make it whoop bug nzagguba. But answer your question, we will feel better?

00:41:58
Speaker 5: Are you are we gonna feel better?

00:42:01
Speaker 8: No?

00:42:03
Speaker 6: No, no, this can still get turned around. I don't know if it can get turned around over Thanksgiving before? Was it North Carolina?

00:42:11
Speaker 5: December first? December second? Second?

00:42:13
Speaker 6: Maybe they win, but I just I don't know. We're gonna get a lot of answers and things. The switch flip back where it needs to be that quickly.

00:42:23
Speaker 2: There you go, oil.

00:42:23
Speaker 5: Look between now and then, we've got two games and tennessee Tech.

00:42:27
Speaker 2: Yeah, beat them up again.

00:42:28
Speaker 5: Schedule.

00:42:29
Speaker 4: Hey, thank you all very much. Wingsday the rest of the day quiz tonight. Nice to see the three family members here, We'll see you later. This has been Kentucky Sports Radio