Pain, Power, and Pleasure: Sally Dinosaur on Kink, Camming, and Control

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<v Speaker 1>From camming on strip chat to navigating burnout and big comebacks,
<v Speaker 1>She's proved that authenticity can in fact be a strategy.
<v Speaker 1>Welcome Sally Dinosaur.
<v Speaker 2>Hello, nice to be here, Thanks for having me.
<v Speaker 1>Of course, you know I've been seeing since I started
<v Speaker 1>working with Stripchat. I know, you know, you're one of
<v Speaker 1>like their their top models, and I've been seeing so
<v Speaker 1>many of your pictures and everything everywhere, and I mean,
<v Speaker 1>you're obviously so beautiful, but I never got a chance
<v Speaker 1>to meet you. And so when I finally got to
<v Speaker 1>meet you, like just recently, I was like, she's so
<v Speaker 1>nice and lovely and friendly and war not that I
<v Speaker 1>expected anything different, because like, sex workers are all great,
<v Speaker 1>but you don't know, you never know, Yeah, I mean
<v Speaker 1>you never know, but yeah, you're it's been We've only
<v Speaker 1>spoken a couple of times, so I'm excited to get
<v Speaker 1>to know you better here.
<v Speaker 2>Hey, thanks for being here.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, so let's start from the beginning. That's kind of
<v Speaker 1>what I do with all of my guests. So you
<v Speaker 1>didn't start out with like polished scenes. You started off
<v Speaker 1>on only fans with like blog style posts, is that right?
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's kind of weird because it's not like the
<v Speaker 2>usual thing to do, I think. But I started maybe
<v Speaker 2>seven years ago, six or seven years ago, and it
<v Speaker 2>wasn't a big thing back then, So I started with
<v Speaker 2>only fans, but not as big only fans and content creator,
<v Speaker 2>and as a content creator stuff, I just made a
<v Speaker 2>blog out of it. So I posted maybe once a week,
<v Speaker 2>maybe once or twice in a month, and then post
<v Speaker 2>for two months when nothing crazy happened. But I used
<v Speaker 2>to go to fetish parties and BSM related stuff and
<v Speaker 2>I kind of shared my experiences and BDSM stuff and
<v Speaker 2>fetish stuff, just the sexual stuff. And it was always honest.
<v Speaker 2>It was just me, my thoughts about it and what
<v Speaker 2>happened to me, what was nice, what was not so nice,
<v Speaker 2>And I just shared maybe a picture of my outfit
<v Speaker 2>for the party, and then I just did like a text.
<v Speaker 2>There was pages long, and people just subbed to the
<v Speaker 2>only fans randomly. But when they heard of me as
<v Speaker 2>a friend or neighbor or whatever that I did it,
<v Speaker 2>then it kind of blew up because they were really
<v Speaker 2>into Okay, what is she doing, what's my neighbor doing,
<v Speaker 2>what is my old friend from childhood? I don't know
<v Speaker 2>what is she doing? And then it kind of blew up,
<v Speaker 2>but not like viral stuff today. It was just crazy
<v Speaker 2>because I had a normal job back then and this
<v Speaker 2>was already much bigger than my normal job. But I
<v Speaker 2>didn't really do stuff to it. I just posted there
<v Speaker 2>once or twice a month, so I was really not
<v Speaker 2>really active there. I wasn't thinking about a business behind it.
<v Speaker 2>And then everything changed after years, so there was a
<v Speaker 2>big pause between. But I started like this what drew
<v Speaker 2>you to?
<v Speaker 1>Like BDSM and that kind of kink?
<v Speaker 2>I wasn't really vanilla never, so I think it was
<v Speaker 2>kind of me all the time. And I don't really
<v Speaker 2>know if there was one situation where I thought about it,
<v Speaker 2>really thought about it. Okay, I like this on that,
<v Speaker 2>but I think there was one guy that was a
<v Speaker 2>little bit more rough, but like good rough to me,
<v Speaker 2>and I liked it. And then I don't know, I
<v Speaker 2>really got into videosm and then I wore a CHOKERL
<v Speaker 2>like the silver metal thing years years and the people
<v Speaker 2>are still going crazy, why are you not wearing that anymore?
<v Speaker 2>It's a private story. So this is why I'm not
<v Speaker 2>sharing it. But the people are going crazy still by
<v Speaker 2>that time, why I'm not wearing a choker or this
<v Speaker 2>silver ring anymore. But I was like really into it,
<v Speaker 2>how like relationships only for this part, not really a
<v Speaker 2>love relationship just started with the videos and stuff and
<v Speaker 2>then yeah, love just got like added to the relationship,
<v Speaker 2>but it didn't start it like that, Are you submissive
<v Speaker 2>then normally? Yeah?
<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah same. I know I look like such an innocent,
<v Speaker 1>sweet person, but I was also an ABDSM relationship like
<v Speaker 1>a long time ago, and I was submissive and it
<v Speaker 1>was fun. It was really fun. I enjoyed it. I
<v Speaker 1>enjoyed the power exchange. But in the end, like he
<v Speaker 1>wanted to do things that were just like too much
<v Speaker 1>for me, Like I wasn't willing to go that far
<v Speaker 1>into that world. So it didn't work out. But I
<v Speaker 1>had a lot of fun. You know, it's fun. And
<v Speaker 1>now I'm as vanilla as it gets. Those are the
<v Speaker 1>days you're.
<v Speaker 2>Gonna say, you you vanilla, I'm pretty vanilla now.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean I look, it's not a bad thing.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, yeah, I know. It's funny.
<v Speaker 2>Sometimes people are like, oh, you're so vanilla.
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, that's not a bad thing at all. It's funny, right,
<v Speaker 1>It's like normal people in regular day to day life
<v Speaker 1>might be ashamed of their kinks, right, might be ashamed
<v Speaker 1>that they like this or this kind of wild sex
<v Speaker 1>or something like that. Like me, like being in the
<v Speaker 1>adult industry, I'm like ashamed of act vanilla.
<v Speaker 2>I am no, never be ashamed of your kings or
<v Speaker 2>being vanilla.
<v Speaker 1>God.
<v Speaker 2>No, I don't like things in my butt that much.
<v Speaker 1>What's wrong with me?
<v Speaker 2>There's nothing wrong with that. And even being into the
<v Speaker 2>videos m scene, I don't like that too much either. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>So it depends on the situation. But I'm not into
<v Speaker 2>all the crazy stuff just because I'm into the videos
<v Speaker 2>I'm see.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So I think a lot of people think, like,
<v Speaker 1>if you're into that scene at all, then you must
<v Speaker 1>be like willing to go all the way. But there's
<v Speaker 1>so many different things like in that world.
<v Speaker 2>There's a lot.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's a.
<v Speaker 2>Lot, and you are not bidis and we're just interest
<v Speaker 2>scene and you like in this and that that is
<v Speaker 2>not maybe that much vanilla. Yeah, but I don't like
<v Speaker 2>all of this stuff.
<v Speaker 1>What do you like? Well?
<v Speaker 2>I that is hard to say, what do you like?
<v Speaker 2>It's really the attitude and the I can't really explain it.
<v Speaker 2>But the men, especially men, has to be like that.
<v Speaker 2>He has to feel like that. He has to be
<v Speaker 2>really into it and really honest with it and real
<v Speaker 2>with that. So I hate it. I really hate it
<v Speaker 2>when people are that's so rude shy, and they're trying
<v Speaker 2>to pretend to be yes and they're sitting next to me.
<v Speaker 2>This is a real situation that happened. Somebody was sitting
<v Speaker 2>next to me on a fetish party and wor stitting
<v Speaker 2>next to each other, and he was really interested, and
<v Speaker 2>we met at joy Clup. We texted and everything was fine.
<v Speaker 2>But then we saw each other at the party and
<v Speaker 2>he wasn't really my type, so I wasn't really interested.
<v Speaker 2>But we sat next to each other and we talked
<v Speaker 2>like normally, and I told him I'm just into girls
<v Speaker 2>because I was really interested. And then he like sticked
<v Speaker 2>his finger out and he was like doing doing that,
<v Speaker 2>like really softly. Amount I was looking at him and
<v Speaker 2>I was like, what is going on? No, please just
<v Speaker 2>go and take what you want. But not in that situation,
<v Speaker 2>because I didn't want it. I would have told him,
<v Speaker 2>but in that situation, that was the worst thing he
<v Speaker 2>could do.
<v Speaker 1>Yes, the worst thing ever, because it was like a trigger.
<v Speaker 2>Now when people are doing this, no please, it's the
<v Speaker 2>worst thing of us. So you have to really get
<v Speaker 2>what you want. But of course I have to.
<v Speaker 1>Want it as well. Yeah, you have to have consent.
<v Speaker 1>So it is you're so right because it's a way
<v Speaker 1>that you carry yourself and only certain people can do that.
<v Speaker 1>Because the guy that I dated was very like, very
<v Speaker 1>polite and lovely and my parents liked him and stuff
<v Speaker 1>like that, but you know, like in the bedroom when
<v Speaker 1>he turned, it was like he spoke with this authority
<v Speaker 1>that just you can't, you can't like not do it
<v Speaker 1>and you really want to and makes you want to.
<v Speaker 1>And then I've been with men who knew that I
<v Speaker 1>was into that and they tried to emulate that and
<v Speaker 1>it did not work because I could, I could, I
<v Speaker 1>didn't feel the authority coming from them. It's weird, like
<v Speaker 1>you have to own it and you have to to
<v Speaker 1>be that kind of person. You can't fake like being
<v Speaker 1>a dom.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>And also when a man or a woman whatever asked
<v Speaker 2>me before, please tell me when it's when it's hurting
<v Speaker 2>too much? Or am I hurting you? That is also
<v Speaker 2>I mean not in general, but in that situation, I
<v Speaker 2>want the I want that it hurts. Yeah, so it's
<v Speaker 2>completely fine. Just do it. And people are often like
<v Speaker 2>did it hurt you?
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?
<v Speaker 2>It did it hurt?
<v Speaker 1>You're like, bitch, why am I here like that?
<v Speaker 2>No it's not fun anymore.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yes it did, but it was good. Yes,
<v Speaker 1>but it was a good pain.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, it's a good time.
<v Speaker 1>But in those situations, you set up like a safe
<v Speaker 1>word or something like that, right, so they don't push
<v Speaker 1>you too far.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>I worked with the safe word, but I don't have
<v Speaker 2>one anymore, because when you really know each other, it
<v Speaker 2>should be like maybe uh no stop something like that
<v Speaker 2>that it's not even a safe word that you discussed before,
<v Speaker 2>like red or something like that. But some people are
<v Speaker 2>fine with it and it works for them. But I
<v Speaker 2>feel weird in that situation saying like red or stuff
<v Speaker 2>like that. I just say okay, okay, no stop, right,
<v Speaker 2>and then it's I mean it.
<v Speaker 1>But then I would assume that the person that you're
<v Speaker 1>with understands that that's that like essentially that is your
<v Speaker 1>safe word. You're just going to say stop right, like,
<v Speaker 1>whereas some people like to play up that whole like
<v Speaker 1>oh no, stop, but they don't mean.
<v Speaker 2>Risk behind it. So you have to know each other.
<v Speaker 2>And I think BDSM and that kind of stuff is
<v Speaker 2>not really for like meeting each other, just just meeting
<v Speaker 2>each other and knowing each other for a day or
<v Speaker 2>two or a week. I think it's not really working
<v Speaker 2>like that. So you have to have a safe word
<v Speaker 2>and really discuss these things before you do stuff to
<v Speaker 2>each other. But when you're reading, like in a relationship
<v Speaker 2>or Bidius relationship whatever, like a DAS relationship, then you're
<v Speaker 2>knowing each other, you should know each other. Yeah, And
<v Speaker 2>then I think it's not necessary. But that's just working
<v Speaker 2>for me, right, That's just for me, not for everybody. No,
<v Speaker 2>I remember the guy I was dating, it was the
<v Speaker 2>first time. And now we do boundary and consent lists
<v Speaker 2>all the time in shoots, I mean even I mean
<v Speaker 2>I know that kink shoots have been doing that like
<v Speaker 2>for a long time, but like the vanilla quote unquote,
<v Speaker 2>mainstream porn industry didn't start doing that until around COVID.
<v Speaker 2>But he was the first person who ever presented me
<v Speaker 2>with a consent list, and I was like, what the
<v Speaker 2>fuck is this?
<v Speaker 1>He like gave him this checklist. Yeah, He's like, what
<v Speaker 1>are you okay with? And I'm like what. I was
<v Speaker 1>so confused, Like no one had ever asked me to
<v Speaker 1>communicate that openly before, and frankly, I was very uncomfortable
<v Speaker 1>with it. I didn't realize like what he was trying
<v Speaker 1>to do. So but yeah, that was the first time
<v Speaker 1>I saw a consent list was when I was dating
<v Speaker 1>somebody in that in that world, so it was kind
<v Speaker 1>of wild.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it's it's so crazy because when I talked
<v Speaker 2>about that the first time with my friends, they were like,
<v Speaker 2>what what he's hurting you? What he's doing that and
<v Speaker 2>this and that, and they were like really worried about me.
<v Speaker 2>It's like, no, everything is fine and that's good. And
<v Speaker 2>it's the first situationship or whatever that I really feel
<v Speaker 2>comfortable and I really enjoy what I'm doing and I
<v Speaker 2>love having sex. Before like making the first experience and
<v Speaker 2>having sex for the first time, I really felt like
<v Speaker 2>this is what you guys love like this, this is sex.
<v Speaker 2>This is the crazy thing you'll talking about. I wasn't
<v Speaker 2>feeling it. I wasn't feeling it, and I thought something
<v Speaker 2>is wrong with me. But it was just not the
<v Speaker 2>person behind it, but like the connection and the stuff
<v Speaker 2>we were doing, because it was kind of an Illaine.
<v Speaker 2>I really wasn't into it. I was like, Okay, it's
<v Speaker 2>it's cute, but it's not giving me. What did you
<v Speaker 2>give me? And then I found it and now I know.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I mean there's something very like cerebral about that
<v Speaker 1>kind of relationship, right, It's like it's a mental game
<v Speaker 1>as well. It's not just physical. A lot of it
<v Speaker 1>is mental, yes, And I think that that for me,
<v Speaker 1>that was like very attractive about it, you know, all right.
<v Speaker 1>I like the way this conversation started as light it quickly,
<v Speaker 1>I know, right going back to you're an only fans
<v Speaker 1>You're posting these blogs about your experiences. So where did
<v Speaker 1>it go from there? You said you took a break,
<v Speaker 1>and then when did you start to like actually come
<v Speaker 1>into this industry and think like, oh, this is like
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to approach this as a business.
<v Speaker 2>So I think seeing this as a real business just
<v Speaker 2>started maybe three years ago, so there was a big pause,
<v Speaker 2>but I still continued doing only fans and other platforms.
<v Speaker 2>So I paused only fans completely for maybe two years.
<v Speaker 2>I think because of my job and getting into tattooing
<v Speaker 2>because I was like learning a lot of stuff and
<v Speaker 2>teaching a lot of stuff, teaching myself a lot of stuff.
<v Speaker 2>So I got into tattooing during my other job and
<v Speaker 2>this was my whole day. So I woke up very early,
<v Speaker 2>like four thirty am, and then got to my job
<v Speaker 2>and then came back at two pm maybe and then
<v Speaker 2>started tattooing the first client, the second client till I
<v Speaker 2>don't know, sometimes midnight, and then.
<v Speaker 1>What's the craziest tattoo You've done?
<v Speaker 2>The craziest maybe dumbest, I don't know. It was fun though,
<v Speaker 2>was a slice of pizza, but there were eyes on
<v Speaker 2>top of it, and she was so sure she really
<v Speaker 2>had that vision, she really had that vision in mind.
<v Speaker 2>She was like, yeah, like a slice of pizza and
<v Speaker 2>then there's not mozzarella, there's like eyes on it and
<v Speaker 2>they're like looking in different directions, and there's also like
<v Speaker 2>this and that, and it's like dripping, like it's really juicy,
<v Speaker 2>but it's more like like water dripping or something, and
<v Speaker 2>so crazy. I was like, yeah, that's not really my style,
<v Speaker 2>but I will do it. But I mean I will
<v Speaker 2>do it. That was the craziest, funnest thing, But I
<v Speaker 2>think the most craziest thing because it was so big
<v Speaker 2>and it was a big project, was a full back piece,
<v Speaker 2>and it was more Japanese black work, so really dark,
<v Speaker 2>but still.
<v Speaker 3>Really aesthetic because I love like the real aesthetic work,
<v Speaker 3>and I still love it on her because it matches
<v Speaker 3>the model so so good and always when I see
<v Speaker 3>pictures of her on Instagram.
<v Speaker 1>It's yours. Yeah, permanently, I did that.
<v Speaker 2>I count for you. Wow, I'm I'm like looking at
<v Speaker 2>that and like, wow, that's so cool. Wait I did
<v Speaker 2>that long? That is so crazy? How long did it
<v Speaker 2>take you? Not really long? I'm pretty fast. I'm really
<v Speaker 2>pretty old. Was pretty fast because I'm not tattooing anymore.
<v Speaker 2>But I think the first session was like four hours
<v Speaker 2>because that was like the maximum of tattoo hours I
<v Speaker 2>always did. After four hours, you're just your body is shaken. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>you're tired, and I'm not focused anymore. I'm assago artists.
<v Speaker 2>I'm not that focused anymore. So I think, like doing
<v Speaker 2>those seven eight nine hour sessions I had with my
<v Speaker 2>back piece wasn't really the smartest thing. So we did
<v Speaker 2>four hours on that day and then I think the
<v Speaker 2>next month also, we did like one or two hour
<v Speaker 2>sessions twice and that was almost it. We like fixed
<v Speaker 2>a few spots after, like with fixing. I mean, she
<v Speaker 2>works out a lot, so I had to fix a
<v Speaker 2>little bit where the sports bra or something, and yeah,
<v Speaker 2>I did a lot of the black works stuff later.
<v Speaker 2>Let's I think we worked on it like seven eight
<v Speaker 2>hours in total for the full back piece. That is
<v Speaker 2>crazy because sometimes people do this as one session and
<v Speaker 2>then they do multiple sessions.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I don't have any tattoos, so nothing like I
<v Speaker 1>can't like, yeah, I can't. I don't. I can't commit
<v Speaker 1>to anything.
<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, that you were picky with you you want some,
<v Speaker 2>but you're not really.
<v Speaker 1>No, no, okay, no, I don't want Okay, that's a
<v Speaker 1>vanilla I am.
<v Speaker 2>What I mean is that sometimes I'm really thinking about
<v Speaker 2>myself without any tattoos, and when I look into the mirror,
<v Speaker 2>I don't see the tattoos anymore. You don't see them.
<v Speaker 2>But sometimes you have that one situation and you're looking
<v Speaker 2>at your armyre.
<v Speaker 1>Like, WHOA do you want to get more?
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I think so. I did a long break after
<v Speaker 2>my back piece because that was a lot hurts.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that really hurts, thank you.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I think these spaces, you see them, so
<v Speaker 2>I have to.
<v Speaker 1>Love you're afraid of hiding your untattooed skin.
<v Speaker 2>It feels kind of uncovered. So it feels kind of
<v Speaker 2>naked because you always feel like you have something.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, that makes sense.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so I don't feel that naked today.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So when did you start camming three years ago?
<v Speaker 1>Three years ago? And is that when you started to
<v Speaker 1>like see it more as a business.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, maybe half the year earlier. I started with only fans,
<v Speaker 2>like posting twice three times, four times a week, and
<v Speaker 2>being consistent with posting and thinking about doing stories and
<v Speaker 2>social media stuff, so really seeing that as marketing as
<v Speaker 2>a business and really being consistent with everything. But then
<v Speaker 2>I think after half a year maybe it was going
<v Speaker 2>pretty well. But then I started with street with camming
<v Speaker 2>on scrip chat. But I always everybody, everybody knew me
<v Speaker 2>from saying I would never never go online like life
<v Speaker 2>doing stuff, life in front of a camp never. I
<v Speaker 2>hate this stuff. I never did it, but I always
<v Speaker 2>told the people I hated and then I thought about it.
<v Speaker 2>How can I hate something I never tried? And then
<v Speaker 2>one friend of mine back then told me she just
<v Speaker 2>started with scrip chat and she told me about this
<v Speaker 2>side and she was like, okay, it's kind of fun.
<v Speaker 2>Because I always I would never do it, and I
<v Speaker 2>was like, okay, yeah. I told that the people too,
<v Speaker 2>and I always said to myself, never, that's nothing for me.
<v Speaker 2>And then she did it, and then she told me
<v Speaker 2>how fun it was. I think it was two days after.
<v Speaker 2>I couldn't live with that. I couldn't live without trying
<v Speaker 2>and always telling people I would never do that because
<v Speaker 2>I was too much into trying new things. I even
<v Speaker 2>did like an online curse as a dominatrix as a
<v Speaker 2>certain person. So it was really crazy, but I wanted
<v Speaker 2>to try everything, and so I got into that and
<v Speaker 2>then I started streaming. I got ready, I locked in,
<v Speaker 2>I set up an account, and I locked in and
<v Speaker 2>the same day I went online for I planned it
<v Speaker 2>for half an hour just to check it out, just
<v Speaker 2>to see how everything works. And I was online for
<v Speaker 2>four and a half hours and had most fun ever. Wow,
<v Speaker 2>it was so cool, And after I was smiling all
<v Speaker 2>over my face.
<v Speaker 1>It's like, cool is that?
<v Speaker 2>Because it's fun? It's really fun. I wasn't really into
<v Speaker 2>doing this only on strip chat or continuing this like
<v Speaker 2>I did it this time. I wasn't really thinking about
<v Speaker 2>how I'm supposed to do that, will continue or not.
<v Speaker 2>It was just clear that I will do it and
<v Speaker 2>I will have fun with that. And then I started
<v Speaker 2>streaming every day for the first maybe three months, maybe
<v Speaker 2>not every day when I have my period okay and streaming,
<v Speaker 2>but around that I was streaming every day or almost
<v Speaker 2>every day, and I really got into that. Really, I
<v Speaker 2>never streamed on a different platform. Later I streamed. I
<v Speaker 2>tried a stream on only Fence, but it wasn't this.
<v Speaker 2>It's still not the same. I tried it, tried it
<v Speaker 2>another time, like a month ago. Maybe it's just not
<v Speaker 2>the same. It's completely different. It was fun, just as
<v Speaker 2>like as a gift. I saw it as a gift
<v Speaker 2>for Christmas and I just announced it, so I will
<v Speaker 2>do it and give you something back. But it wasn't
<v Speaker 2>the same.
<v Speaker 1>So what is it different about? Like streaming on strip
<v Speaker 1>chat and like what makes it so fun?
<v Speaker 2>So I like that the people really interact with you.
<v Speaker 2>For example, the toys, the Loven's toys, they're really interacting
<v Speaker 2>with you. They're tipping something and then you'll get the
<v Speaker 2>vibration for the toy or whatever. I only have like
<v Speaker 2>the domies or the massage kind of thing.
<v Speaker 1>Oh right, because the Loven's toys like are built in
<v Speaker 1>where they interact with the strip chat interface. Yes, so
<v Speaker 1>people tip and they can tip to like get the
<v Speaker 1>toy to like work.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah exactly. So I just put it on, but it's
<v Speaker 2>not vibrating, it's not doing anything. But when they tip something,
<v Speaker 2>then it's reacting to it. And the more they tip,
<v Speaker 2>the more it interacts or reacts. Right, So people are
<v Speaker 2>going crazy with that. Ye like to play with that. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>maybe they even take control over the toy. That is
<v Speaker 2>an option they can do, and that is crazy because
<v Speaker 2>for maybe two minutes I have had it set up.
<v Speaker 2>For two minutes, they can control the toy completely by themselves,
<v Speaker 2>nobody else. So they are just like drawing lines or
<v Speaker 2>doing like all over the place. I don't know, but
<v Speaker 2>they like to play. So mostly it's like a wave
<v Speaker 2>and they're like going max and then just a little
<v Speaker 2>bit teasing and then max again. So I really like
<v Speaker 2>that people can interact with me and it's not like
<v Speaker 2>a single show and I'm talking to people, and I
<v Speaker 2>feel like I'm doing a podcast alone, yeah, really interacting
<v Speaker 2>with them, and they're giving me feedback and so many compliments.
<v Speaker 2>So you feel really feel good afterwards because getting so
<v Speaker 2>many compliments during that time for what you do. It's crazy.
<v Speaker 2>You never get that doing posts or something like that,
<v Speaker 2>because you posted and you already did that content maybe
<v Speaker 2>two weeks ago or something, and then you get it.
<v Speaker 2>You get a compliment and it's it's cute, and it's
<v Speaker 2>it's fine, nice, thank you, but it's not that intense
<v Speaker 2>getting it directly from the user for what you're doing
<v Speaker 2>right now.
<v Speaker 1>In that moment. Yes, there's something about like that live
<v Speaker 1>interaction that's really exciting. Yes, what skills do you think
<v Speaker 1>camming taught you that maybe other platforms couldn't?
<v Speaker 2>Squirting? I have to be honest with you. The first thing, Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>I learned how to squirt because I was always thinking
<v Speaker 2>about squirting and seeing points with squirting, and I always
<v Speaker 2>thought I can't do that. I just can't. And I
<v Speaker 2>even thought I'm not able to have an orgasm.
<v Speaker 4>Really that through zip jet or through Wow crazy strip
<v Speaker 4>chat taught you how to orgasm?
<v Speaker 1>I mean, guys, if that's not an endorsement. I don't
<v Speaker 1>know what else is, and then you know that.
<v Speaker 2>It's real because yeah, I really felt that it was
<v Speaker 2>real because I was just having fun. And then there
<v Speaker 2>was this one moment I was like, oh, hello, yeah, okay,
<v Speaker 2>I see what you're freaking out because I'm I'm freaking
<v Speaker 2>out as well.
<v Speaker 1>Wow, that's amazing.
<v Speaker 2>That's the biggest thing I learned. It's not really a
<v Speaker 2>show because it's not fake, but it's like a role
<v Speaker 2>from yourself. It's me, it's Sally, but it's like a
<v Speaker 2>part of me. Of course, not my friends or family
<v Speaker 2>will get this role from me, right, but it's a
<v Speaker 2>part of me. But it's a single part only for
<v Speaker 2>streaming or doing content or stuff like that. And I
<v Speaker 2>really learned how to separate these things. So even when
<v Speaker 2>I had a really bad day and I plan doing
<v Speaker 2>a stream, then something changed before I press goal life,
<v Speaker 2>something changed and I'm into that role, and then I'm
<v Speaker 2>not having the bad day anymore. It's like a refresh,
<v Speaker 2>and then after I can have that bad day again,
<v Speaker 2>maybe because it was just in that time period where
<v Speaker 2>I wasn't really angry or sad anymore, because it was
<v Speaker 2>just something different, And I think you really have to
<v Speaker 2>learn that because it wasn't like that from the beginning.
<v Speaker 2>And I think a lot of girls or boys struggle
<v Speaker 2>with that from the beginning because they're really going into
<v Speaker 2>the stream or the camming with their emotions from that day,
<v Speaker 2>or with anxiety, maybe sitting there and nobody respondses, or
<v Speaker 2>not being loved or liked by the people, and you
<v Speaker 2>really have to get rid of all these thoughts. It's
<v Speaker 2>not easy. And I wouldn't say that I'm completely one
<v Speaker 2>hundred percent good at it, because sometimes it happens. It
<v Speaker 2>happens I go live and I feel bad with going
<v Speaker 2>live because I have a bad day. And I can't
<v Speaker 2>really separate these things like business, even if it's fun,
<v Speaker 2>it's still.
<v Speaker 1>It don't work and still paying you for your time,
<v Speaker 1>and they yes, you know.
<v Speaker 2>But when I say that, people are like, yeah, but
<v Speaker 2>you only do that for money. I wouldn't do that
<v Speaker 2>just for the money. If I would hate it, yeah,
<v Speaker 2>never ever, never ever, you could give me it doesn't matter.
<v Speaker 2>It really doesn't matter. If I would not like it.
<v Speaker 2>You could give me whatever you want. I would not
<v Speaker 2>do it never ever. Yes, Okay, the money on top
<v Speaker 2>is nice, and sometimes it's motivating to do it, to
<v Speaker 2>do it better, to do it longer, to do it more. Okay,
<v Speaker 2>got that. But I would do it if I would
<v Speaker 2>not like it.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So you've done both indoor and outdoor camming. And
<v Speaker 1>one of the things that I know that really set
<v Speaker 1>strip chat apart from other camming platforms is that they
<v Speaker 1>have like a really great mobile capability where you can
<v Speaker 1>like stream on the go and you can stream on
<v Speaker 1>your phone, which a lot of other platforms don't have.
<v Speaker 1>I think that's like one of the strongest interface like
<v Speaker 1>tools that strip chat has. That's really sets them apart
<v Speaker 1>when you do like outdoor camming, like what what exactly
<v Speaker 1>is that? Like what do you do? Are you out hiking?
<v Speaker 1>Like what are you doing when you're outdoor camming? So
<v Speaker 1>I like it public and risky.
<v Speaker 2>Ah, so I'm not in the forest where nobody Okay,
<v Speaker 2>you're depot that's too boring for me. So then I
<v Speaker 2>can also do it on the couch and then I'm
<v Speaker 2>all comfy.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, that's true.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's true. You can just go online with your phone,
<v Speaker 2>just your phone, you don't need anything else. But I
<v Speaker 2>did it mostly when the sun went down, So I
<v Speaker 2>need a light, of course, because otherwise it's dark and
<v Speaker 2>you can't see shit. So I have my phone and
<v Speaker 2>then I have a clip on light that it's just
<v Speaker 2>it just it's what it is. So it just have
<v Speaker 2>this little clip and you clip it on your phone
<v Speaker 2>and it's it's really right. So I clip this on
<v Speaker 2>the phone and put my phone on a tripod. All
<v Speaker 2>I need. That's all I need, of course. I sometimes
<v Speaker 2>I go with a huge backpack packed with all that stuff,
<v Speaker 2>like the plugs, a pair of glasses, different kind of
<v Speaker 2>shoes maybe because they want to see heels on a
<v Speaker 2>different kind of light, because sometimes I need a light
<v Speaker 2>coming from the side because you're doing a different kind
<v Speaker 2>of angle. I don't know. The toys from Loven's. You
<v Speaker 2>can add a lot of stuff, but you don't need
<v Speaker 2>to just to go online. You need your phone, maybe
<v Speaker 2>a light, maybe a try put because you don't want
<v Speaker 2>to hold it this whole time. Have phone the whole time.
<v Speaker 2>So that's it. And when I stream outdoor, I like
<v Speaker 2>it a little more public. Of course, I have to
<v Speaker 2>be safe and the people have to be safe, of course.
<v Speaker 2>So I went online in front of hardware store on Sundays,
<v Speaker 2>so it was cool.
<v Speaker 1>I literally said down home depot, like as a joke,
<v Speaker 1>but yes, okay, we're talking hardware store.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, but it was closed on Sundays, so I was like, okay,
<v Speaker 2>I can, okay, I can go live in front of it.
<v Speaker 2>But there was a cinema, like a big cinema, just
<v Speaker 2>maybe three hundred meters behind it, and I didn't know that.
<v Speaker 2>And of course all the people on Sundays, all the families.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't know.
<v Speaker 2>And this is where it got really embarrassing, because a
<v Speaker 2>jogger passed my car and me during a stream. But
<v Speaker 2>I just it looked like I'm just filming something, so
<v Speaker 2>I was covered. I think I was all covered. I
<v Speaker 2>don't know anymore. But maybe I did like this because
<v Speaker 2>I was topless. I don't know it anymore. And I
<v Speaker 2>had my phone in front of myself in the car
<v Speaker 2>because I already saw him. And I went in the
<v Speaker 2>car and I said, okay, let's just wait a minute.
<v Speaker 2>That's part of the live stream. Maybe and they know it.
<v Speaker 2>They know sometimes they have to wait because it's too risky,
<v Speaker 2>and then I have to hide myself blah blah blah.
<v Speaker 2>And then the jogger passed the car and I was like, okay,
<v Speaker 2>he didn't say anything. It's fine, We're fine. And then
<v Speaker 2>I just continued and half an hour later the police
<v Speaker 2>came by and I was not covered anymore, like get
<v Speaker 2>out of the car, and I was like, I can't
<v Speaker 2>get out of the car. I can So they were like,
<v Speaker 2>why can't you get out of the car. I was like,
<v Speaker 2>I'm all naked, that's just the tower.
<v Speaker 1>They were like that's fine.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and they were like, okay, what are you doing
<v Speaker 2>here because there were families maybe they can see you
<v Speaker 2>because there's a cinema and can you just do that
<v Speaker 2>stuff whoever in the forest where nobody is And I said, yeah, okay,
<v Speaker 2>no problem. They were really friendly and I just told
<v Speaker 2>them I'm filming something because I went offline in the
<v Speaker 2>minute they told me I have to come out of
<v Speaker 2>the car because it was too risky for me. I
<v Speaker 2>didn't want to go in in a stressful situation with
<v Speaker 2>them or arguing with them.
<v Speaker 1>You didn't want to live stream your arrest? Are you sure? Really?
<v Speaker 2>This is what I thought. I was like, maybe I
<v Speaker 2>can just be live and so no, I went offline
<v Speaker 2>in the minute they told me get out of the car.
<v Speaker 2>So the people still noticed police there. They are angry,
<v Speaker 2>they want something for me, and this is how the
<v Speaker 2>stream ends. And after maybe.
<v Speaker 1>Your fans must have been so worried about you.
<v Speaker 2>I'm so worried, so fucking worried. The whole chet was
<v Speaker 2>like is she okay? Oh my god. I was getting
<v Speaker 2>dressed again and it just texted something really quick in
<v Speaker 2>the chat and I was like, I'm okay, I will
<v Speaker 2>just find another spot to continue because we're not done yet.
<v Speaker 1>Of course, yes, hanging.
<v Speaker 3>No.
<v Speaker 2>And then I searched for another spot and sometimes it's
<v Speaker 2>really hard to find the perfect spot because maybe the
<v Speaker 2>internet is really really bad, and yeah, that was the problem.
<v Speaker 2>So I found three spots and nothing worked with the internet.
<v Speaker 2>I was streaming in Spain during that time, and the
<v Speaker 2>internet is yeah, it was so bad. But then I
<v Speaker 2>just rolled into the chat I will go life tomorrow
<v Speaker 2>again because it's just not working. And then your mood
<v Speaker 2>is just all crashed and yeah up, and you're like, okay, no,
<v Speaker 2>I will give up.
<v Speaker 1>Of course, in my head as you're saying this, I'm thinking,
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, you could turn this into like a scene.
<v Speaker 1>And of course, like Bonnie Blues, I've seen her do
<v Speaker 1>this a few times to be like I'm being arrested,
<v Speaker 1>and then like it's a scene that she set up
<v Speaker 1>with like fake people as like border patrol. But that
<v Speaker 1>would actually be kind of hot, like if you were
<v Speaker 1>if you you know what I mean, you hired like
<v Speaker 1>other people who are obviously like models are on cam
<v Speaker 1>and you like faked and arrest, but then like it
<v Speaker 1>turned into something else, and if you live stream the
<v Speaker 1>whole thing, I would love it.
<v Speaker 2>And to be honest with you, the police officer was, oh.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, did you give him? Did you give him your handle?
<v Speaker 1>You're like, well check men on the strip chat.
<v Speaker 2>No. I was to shy on that moment. I was like, yeah,
<v Speaker 2>we'll go okay, sorry, that's funny. I had.
<v Speaker 1>I had a cop recognize me a couple of months
<v Speaker 1>ago because he watches this show. Actually, if you're watching this, hello, yhi,
<v Speaker 1>it was nice to meet you. It was such a
<v Speaker 1>She's like, I know you you have a podcast. I
<v Speaker 1>was like, oh my god. Sadly he wasn't like pulling
<v Speaker 1>me over or anything. He was just like our road
<v Speaker 1>was blocked because of the fires. But if he pulled
<v Speaker 1>me over, that would have been cool because I could
<v Speaker 1>him been like You're not gonna give me a ticket,
<v Speaker 1>are you?
<v Speaker 2>So next time?
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, high officer. So now you did end up
<v Speaker 1>taking a break, right, yes, and then you came back
<v Speaker 1>on January first with the stream. So so why did
<v Speaker 1>you end up taking a break?
<v Speaker 2>It was just too much because I wanted to too
<v Speaker 2>much for myself. I was into everything I wanted to do,
<v Speaker 2>like podcast stuff. In Germany, I was the face of Venus,
<v Speaker 2>the ambassador for the whole invention. I was the ambassador
<v Speaker 2>for scriptued during that same convention and another platform. So
<v Speaker 2>it was just too much. It was too much because
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I still loved what I did there and
<v Speaker 2>I had fun, but my whole body said.
<v Speaker 1>Rest, rest.
<v Speaker 2>I can't do let you anymore. You have to take
<v Speaker 2>a rest. And I don't really make pause or rest
<v Speaker 2>because I love what I do and I love to
<v Speaker 2>completely freak out with all of that stuff because I'm
<v Speaker 2>just too much into it. And then I'm saying yes
<v Speaker 2>to everything. I'm like, yes, let's do this, let's clan that,
<v Speaker 2>let's do this, and I'm all in and yeah. But
<v Speaker 2>that was the part where not even my not only
<v Speaker 2>my brain and my mental health really told me, Okay, please,
<v Speaker 2>I need a break, but my whole body did. I
<v Speaker 2>had really bad back pain and it went all up
<v Speaker 2>to my head and I had pain every day. And
<v Speaker 2>I went to the doctor and they were like, no,
<v Speaker 2>everything was, it's just fine. And then that I got
<v Speaker 2>a massage and she came to my house and she
<v Speaker 2>was doing like a I think it's called trigger a
<v Speaker 2>massage or something because they were like trigger points and
<v Speaker 2>then they're going into it and it really hurts. And
<v Speaker 2>she told me it's not really relaxing. Just yeah, to
<v Speaker 2>be aware, it's not really relaxing.
<v Speaker 1>It will hurt.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, okay, but I just hope that it's But.
<v Speaker 1>You also, I mean, yeah, you can't like it. I
<v Speaker 1>love those kinds of massages. Like sometimes if I don't
<v Speaker 1>feel pain, yeah, in a massage, then I'm like, I
<v Speaker 1>don't like it, Like you guys.
<v Speaker 2>At that point, I hate a massage. I don't know
<v Speaker 2>why I hated it.
<v Speaker 1>But then my doctor, Oh my god. So I see
<v Speaker 1>a physical therapist once a week just to keep me
<v Speaker 1>like and I've been having a lot of like neck
<v Speaker 1>and shoulder. Actually tore my shoulder doing yoga for the
<v Speaker 1>third time. Is that third time good for your body.
<v Speaker 1>I've been no longer doing yoga that chick. But they
<v Speaker 1>stick a needle and like wherever, like your your muscle
<v Speaker 1>point is that a long needle and then they just
<v Speaker 1>go like this and it like spasms. Your muscle makes
<v Speaker 1>it let go. It's the worst and I love it.
<v Speaker 1>It's the worst, and I love it so stream, but
<v Speaker 1>I love it. I love it because you feel it
<v Speaker 1>feels so good afterwards.
<v Speaker 2>That sounds horrible.
<v Speaker 1>I love, like painful massages are really weird, So you're
<v Speaker 1>not that fun. Yeah, I mean, I mean I feel
<v Speaker 1>like I vlogged in the bedroom anymore. But for your boy,
<v Speaker 1>do I love that dry needling?
<v Speaker 2>Love bad?
<v Speaker 3>No?
<v Speaker 1>It was my doctor walked this podcast. Yeah, doctor said
<v Speaker 1>she just you're the best.
<v Speaker 2>My thanks for having me.
<v Speaker 1>Keeps sticking me with your needle.
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god. No. She went into this trigger points
<v Speaker 2>and I was screaming. I was crying. I was like, okay,
<v Speaker 2>but I hope it will help, and it did not,
<v Speaker 2>and she was, okay, it should help, but then it's
<v Speaker 2>not coming from your body itself. It's coming from your head.
<v Speaker 2>It's coming from your mind, and it's just too much.
<v Speaker 2>And I was like, okay, now you're a therapist, and
<v Speaker 2>I don't need that shit, and it's just my body
<v Speaker 2>and and I just need a good doctor and he
<v Speaker 2>just has to find out what is wrong with my body,
<v Speaker 2>because I really didn't want to accept that I was
<v Speaker 2>burnt out.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah completely, Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>And then my body and the pain was getting worse
<v Speaker 2>and worse, so I really got like paralyzed in my bed.
<v Speaker 2>I was just laying in my bed with a lot
<v Speaker 2>of pain, and I was crying the whole day. And
<v Speaker 2>I was like, how can I change that? How can
<v Speaker 2>I change that? I need to do stuff. I need
<v Speaker 2>to do stuff, and I need to create content and work.
<v Speaker 2>I need to work. And yeah, that was the problem
<v Speaker 2>because I focused on work still with all that pain,
<v Speaker 2>and there was a lot of stress I put on
<v Speaker 2>to myself, put it onto myself. So I needed to
<v Speaker 2>learn how to focus on myself first and to prioritize
<v Speaker 2>myself or before work or everything else, and really needed
<v Speaker 2>to learn that. I'm still learning that. I started with reading.
<v Speaker 2>I read a lot of books about yourself and overthinking
<v Speaker 2>stuff because I'm an overthinker, and that really helped me
<v Speaker 2>to get out of this state. And then I needed
<v Speaker 2>to take myself serious and really taking the pain serious
<v Speaker 2>and all the warrant signals. My whole body gave me
<v Speaker 2>the whole time, and I did that and now it's
<v Speaker 2>it's not even it's not just better, it's almost gone.
<v Speaker 2>But I'm I'm prepared that it can happen again, and
<v Speaker 2>now I'm prepared for that situation and I know what
<v Speaker 2>to do and to focus on myself and take a
<v Speaker 2>break and pause and not having FOMO for everything. Yeah, yeah,
<v Speaker 2>I think it's normal in the business.
<v Speaker 1>It is. I mean, you're saying all of this, and
<v Speaker 1>I'm relating so hard to you because I'm the same way.
<v Speaker 1>It's very difficult for me to stop working. And yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, it's just I think it also
<v Speaker 1>you fall into that trap too, like being in this
<v Speaker 1>industry because essentially you're an entrepreneur like you're doing like
<v Speaker 1>you're running your own business right like, so it kind
<v Speaker 1>of never ends. It's not like a nine to five ever,
<v Speaker 1>And especially if you love your job, you don't want
<v Speaker 1>to stop, and your your brand is growing and people
<v Speaker 1>are asking you to do more things, and all these
<v Speaker 1>opportunities are coming up. It's really hard to turn them down.
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I mean your body. Your body is telling
<v Speaker 1>you what you need to hear, but it's it's hard
<v Speaker 1>to listen. Yeah, so sometimes it just needs to like
<v Speaker 1>cripple you sometimes.
<v Speaker 2>But I just hope that I'm not getting too into
<v Speaker 2>that seat anymore. And I realized it earlier, way earlier,
<v Speaker 2>and then I can do something. I can relax a
<v Speaker 2>little bit more or maybe say no to one of
<v Speaker 2>these opportunities because it's not running away.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah it's not. So how is that comeback stream?
<v Speaker 2>Like?
<v Speaker 1>Because I know a lot of times with camming, like
<v Speaker 1>consistencies like a big thing, and if you kind of
<v Speaker 1>stopped for a while, you did you find that like
<v Speaker 1>when you came back you had all the same fans
<v Speaker 1>there or did you have to kind of build back
<v Speaker 1>up again a little bit?
<v Speaker 2>So I was thinking about the same I was like, Okay,
<v Speaker 2>nobody knows me anymore, nobody. I will go live and
<v Speaker 2>then what it should happen because I was offline four months,
<v Speaker 2>so I can't really think about that situation like the
<v Speaker 2>last stream and that it will be the same situation again.
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't the same situation. It was much more crazy.
<v Speaker 2>Oh wow, much crazy. It blew up so much that
<v Speaker 2>I was so stressed in but like a good stress
<v Speaker 2>during the stream because the chat was going crazy. There
<v Speaker 2>were like thousands of people texting at the same fucking time.
<v Speaker 1>Wow, oh, I got telling you're back.
<v Speaker 2>And then there's the tip coming in and there's like
<v Speaker 2>these tips telling you what to do. Yeah, of course
<v Speaker 2>you decide what you want to do and you're getting
<v Speaker 2>into this tip menu, but I really couldn't read it.
<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh, yeah, there was a tip, where
<v Speaker 2>is it? Where it's gone? And I needed people to
<v Speaker 2>help me to really get into those tips so I
<v Speaker 2>can do them but still interact with the chat and
<v Speaker 2>talk to them. Or it was gone and yeah I'm back.
<v Speaker 2>Let's just celebrate that.
<v Speaker 1>It was crazy. It was so much, and it didn't
<v Speaker 1>make you feel like, Okay, I can do this, like
<v Speaker 1>I can step away, I can take a break, I
<v Speaker 1>can take a moment for myself and the world will
<v Speaker 1>not forget me.
<v Speaker 2>For maybe the next days after this stream, Yes, but
<v Speaker 2>you'll lose it again. So I had a stream last week,
<v Speaker 2>I think, and I had the same thoughts again, and
<v Speaker 2>I think it's kind of normal to have these thoughts
<v Speaker 2>because you really want to be good, be professional, be fun,
<v Speaker 2>make a fun time for yourself and also the viewers.
<v Speaker 2>So it's yeah, it's kind of stressful and it's a
<v Speaker 2>lot of stuff you have to prepare before the stream,
<v Speaker 2>like mentally, but I think it's it's kind of normal
<v Speaker 2>to have these thoughts and then into the stream again
<v Speaker 2>everything has gone.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>I think kind of being like nervous before a podcast
<v Speaker 2>or live streaming or whatever is completely normal and you
<v Speaker 2>just have to accept that it's normal and it will
<v Speaker 2>be gone the minute or the second, even the second
<v Speaker 2>the camera is on, then everything is gone.
<v Speaker 1>So rewinding a little bit, after just a few months
<v Speaker 1>on stripchat, a major German YouTuber filmed a day as
<v Speaker 1>a camgirl with you, So tell us about how that happened.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, I was half a year into streaming, so not
<v Speaker 2>really long because there are girls they're like streaming for years. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>and I'm just still new to that platform. But he
<v Speaker 2>made a post on Twitter back then and he asked,
<v Speaker 2>are you interested in that kind of video about a
<v Speaker 2>cam girl a life a day with the camgirl? And
<v Speaker 2>there was one guy that was a viewer from my
<v Speaker 2>last streams and he was commenting, yes, please do it
<v Speaker 2>with Sally Dinosaur and then he texted me and he
<v Speaker 2>was like, hey, I want to do that. Can we
<v Speaker 2>hop on a call? And then we had a call
<v Speaker 2>and then we planned the whole thing. It was so quickly.
<v Speaker 2>It was also spontaneous, so it was I think one
<v Speaker 2>week after he texted me, we filmed that, and one
<v Speaker 2>week after he already came up with this video on YouTube.
<v Speaker 2>That that is really quick because sometimes he's filming and
<v Speaker 2>like half a year later he just announced, he announces
<v Speaker 2>that he will do that and then the video comes
<v Speaker 2>up on YouTube. So it came really quick on his
<v Speaker 2>YouTube channel and it blew up and people are going crazy.
<v Speaker 2>Of course, a lot of hate because oh my god,
<v Speaker 2>how can you do a video with the sex worker
<v Speaker 2>that's always Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>Yes, we get a lot of that, especially on YouTube.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, no, that struggle. But there were a lot of
<v Speaker 2>people that liked me for being real because I mean,
<v Speaker 2>for me, it's kind of awkward because I can't really
<v Speaker 2>watch that video, yeah, because seeing myself and being like yeah,
<v Speaker 2>it is really ursing for me. But the people really
<v Speaker 2>liked it because they were like, oh, she's so real,
<v Speaker 2>she's not like the not to be mean, but the
<v Speaker 2>other girls that are just like yeah, I'm just a
<v Speaker 2>sex worker and that's all me. That's my whole personality.
<v Speaker 2>That's fine, that works for you, but that should never
<v Speaker 2>work for me. And I'm like, just honest. I tell
<v Speaker 2>people the truth and what I think about them doing
<v Speaker 2>rating for example, a dick rating.
<v Speaker 1>Oh you're honest with your dick ratings.
<v Speaker 2>To be honest. Sometimes I'm like, oh no, but I don't
<v Speaker 2>like even the lighting. I'm like really judging that. I'm like,
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to judge you, but can you do
<v Speaker 2>this and that? And yeah, it's nothing for me.
<v Speaker 1>I'm like nice to them, but honest, I will be
<v Speaker 1>honest about like the things surrounding it, you know. Like
<v Speaker 1>it's so funny because every girl I talk about dick
<v Speaker 1>gratings with we're all like, don't shoot it in a
<v Speaker 1>messy room, don't shoot it on the toilet. I like,
<v Speaker 1>just simple shit that I think. Guys all they see
<v Speaker 1>is dicky. That's all they see. They don't see like
<v Speaker 1>what surrounds the dick. And like for us, it's like
<v Speaker 1>it's about it's about more than the penis. Like the
<v Speaker 1>penis is not whole only thing that matters. It's like
<v Speaker 1>everything around it that says something about who you are
<v Speaker 1>as a person I think is important.
<v Speaker 2>And then they do it on the toilet. Yes you
<v Speaker 2>already know.
<v Speaker 1>I'm I know what you're doing on there, dude, Like
<v Speaker 1>come on man, But yeah, so I will be like
<v Speaker 1>pretty honest about that. But you know, when it comes
<v Speaker 1>to like the penis size and stuff, I try to
<v Speaker 1>be I don't want to crush anyone's dreams unless that's
<v Speaker 1>what they want. Some guys want.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I will tell them that I will be honest,
<v Speaker 2>and they are like okay, I can live with that,
<v Speaker 2>Like okay, but I will be honest.
<v Speaker 1>Have you ever had a guy like regret, like not
<v Speaker 1>expect you do to actually be honest, or like get upset.
<v Speaker 1>I had one guy that like freaked out on me
<v Speaker 1>because I gave him a seven, which I think is
<v Speaker 1>pretty good at a seven out of ten. Yeah, he
<v Speaker 1>like stid out on me and he was like he
<v Speaker 1>was like he was, yes, he was like, I got
<v Speaker 1>a great dick. What's wrong with you? He likes cusin.
<v Speaker 2>Maybe this was his king to just judge you after oh,
<v Speaker 2>to judge you feel bad, because I think sometimes I
<v Speaker 2>think that's what they want. Okay, I to feel better
<v Speaker 2>from myself.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I see, I see you know, like flipping it.
<v Speaker 1>So I'm rating your dick and then you're rating my
<v Speaker 1>dick rating and apparently my dad like a one out
<v Speaker 1>of ten.
<v Speaker 2>No, but I made a mistake once. So there was
<v Speaker 2>one guy. He I have my own website and I
<v Speaker 2>did offer dick ratings on the website, and there was
<v Speaker 2>one option for SBH.
<v Speaker 1>Right, that's small penis humiliation for us of you who
<v Speaker 1>don't know. Okay, so that's.
<v Speaker 2>Crazy because you can't be really honest with them when
<v Speaker 2>they show you a dick that is maybe a seven
<v Speaker 2>out of ten or maybe even a ten out of ten,
<v Speaker 2>and it's pretty huge. Yeah, and there was a mistake
<v Speaker 2>on the website. I don't know, and it's said that
<v Speaker 2>he wanted SPH and oh no, I saw that picture
<v Speaker 2>and that dick was huge. It was huge. And I
<v Speaker 2>really was thinking about, Okay, should I text him and
<v Speaker 2>be honest that I don't know how to really judge
<v Speaker 2>him for having a small penis when there's no small piece. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>but I was like, okay, no, I just I would
<v Speaker 2>just be professional. He wants that, Yeah, he didn't want that.
<v Speaker 2>And I did the video and you know you know that, Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>and you're like, that's so small, that's not even average.
<v Speaker 1>Like I know, I'm so empathetic, like all the horrible
<v Speaker 1>things that we say that they want. I'm so sorry.
<v Speaker 2>I'm really really sorry. This is why I hate doing
<v Speaker 2>that since then, and then he answered like I never
<v Speaker 2>hurt something like that. I never really heard that my
<v Speaker 2>penis is small. I mean, he was still friendly. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>but I felt so bad because then I realized it
<v Speaker 2>was a mistake. And then I told him and I
<v Speaker 2>sent him a screenshot what it shook me that he
<v Speaker 2>wanted the small penis simulation, and I offered him another deck,
<v Speaker 2>writing that was honest without sph that.
<v Speaker 1>Was kind of Oh my god, that's funny. Nothing better
<v Speaker 1>than an accidental dick rating to crush someone's ego. Oh
<v Speaker 1>my god, you've said that porn sex is like more difficult,
<v Speaker 1>more like technical, less spontaneous. Do you do like scenes
<v Speaker 1>on camming? And is that different than shooting like for
<v Speaker 1>a studio.
<v Speaker 2>I used to do. I don't do them anymore. Maybe
<v Speaker 2>I will do them in the future again, but it's
<v Speaker 2>not planned for it now because I just enjoyed it
<v Speaker 2>to be life solo and so I think the most
<v Speaker 2>people think that horn is always much more harder and rougher,
<v Speaker 2>and I don't know, just not reality. But for me
<v Speaker 2>it's the other way around, because I can't really film
<v Speaker 2>maybe because of the video something. I can't really film
<v Speaker 2>what I'm really into.
<v Speaker 1>I was thinking that, like, because the platforms probably won't
<v Speaker 1>allow you to film.
<v Speaker 2>That is the first thing, because so many things got
<v Speaker 2>flagged because that is not allowed, even when I make
<v Speaker 2>like disclaimer that I really wanted that and stuff, and
<v Speaker 2>it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter all of my Halloween
<v Speaker 2>specials because they were a little rougher and they got
<v Speaker 2>flagged and I had to delete them from a defense.
<v Speaker 2>So when I want to film what I really do
<v Speaker 2>in bed like POV for example, I couldn't film that.
<v Speaker 2>That wouldn't be possible, it was it would just be
<v Speaker 2>a shaky video. It would just be over the place
<v Speaker 2>and shaky. So this is why my videos are not
<v Speaker 2>that hard. Like I have sex in real life. And
<v Speaker 2>that is kind of crazy because all of the people
<v Speaker 2>are always saying, yeah, but porn isn't real, and it's
<v Speaker 2>it's not the reality, and it's more, it's just more,
<v Speaker 2>it's just more it's harder. I don't know, but for
<v Speaker 2>me it's so funny because since the other way around,
<v Speaker 2>I think my videos are not vanilla but not that hard.
<v Speaker 2>Of course, you can like put your phone on a
<v Speaker 2>tripod and then you're not into the shaky video. But
<v Speaker 2>when I filmed and related stuff, then mostly the partner
<v Speaker 2>didn't want it to be in the video. So this
<v Speaker 2>is why I always did it POV and then I
<v Speaker 2>really had to call me down a little bit, and
<v Speaker 2>this is why it's a little softer than in real life.
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, that's a yeah. It's definitely different than
<v Speaker 1>I think what most people. Most people think about when
<v Speaker 1>they think important. If you could it would be it
<v Speaker 1>would be much more, much more intense than what you're
<v Speaker 1>allowed to film.
<v Speaker 2>I even did a plot twist that was not planned
<v Speaker 2>just because of the only fans rules in my Halloween video.
<v Speaker 2>So it was like he had like the screen mask
<v Speaker 2>on and I was walking through the forest. The first problem,
<v Speaker 2>and then he catched me and I screamed, and she
<v Speaker 2>put me in his car and tied up and second problem,
<v Speaker 2>and then he put me in.
<v Speaker 1>His life in his basement flam.
<v Speaker 2>And then I was like okay, I would just do
<v Speaker 2>a plot twist and then I would change the situation
<v Speaker 2>so only fence will be fine. So I was just
<v Speaker 2>tied up and I was like, oh my god, I'm
<v Speaker 2>in the basement and I'm and he wanted to go
<v Speaker 2>and he was using the stairs and I was looking
<v Speaker 2>at him and like giving him some some the eyes.
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, the eyes or something. I don't know
<v Speaker 2>if I if I had tape on my mouth, if
<v Speaker 2>I if I could say something, I don't. I don't
<v Speaker 2>even know it anymore. But then he came back and
<v Speaker 2>then he untied me, and then I did my thing,
<v Speaker 2>and I was like I started everything. So I was like, okay,
<v Speaker 2>that is a plot twist. And then it shows that
<v Speaker 2>I was consensual, consensual and I really wanted it, but
<v Speaker 2>no fly.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, when we when I was shot, when I wouldchoot
<v Speaker 1>for like browsers and stuff like that, we had to
<v Speaker 1>be so careful about things that like there had to
<v Speaker 1>be something in the video that made it very clear
<v Speaker 1>that there was consent involved. There had to be like
<v Speaker 1>a line or something, and they would like highlight it
<v Speaker 1>in the script and like if I didn't have that
<v Speaker 1>line in the scene, like they literally couldn't use it,
<v Speaker 1>so it was like so important that we would have
<v Speaker 1>to like imply consent in some way. I mean, it
<v Speaker 1>got so crazy. And really this is all like down
<v Speaker 1>to the credit card processors and how strict they've gotten
<v Speaker 1>with a lot of things, which is why the platforms
<v Speaker 1>have had to like institute a lot of these these
<v Speaker 1>stricter rules. But like like one of them, which is
<v Speaker 1>just so crazy to me, is that and each platform
<v Speaker 1>can interpret the rules differently, which is why some platforms
<v Speaker 1>you can do more on than other ones. It's weird, right,
<v Speaker 1>It's sort of like a gray area and things can change, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>you know, like like a platform can allow one thing
<v Speaker 1>and then later on they have to ban it and
<v Speaker 1>then you take all that shit down. But one of
<v Speaker 1>the things I thought was so crazy is that you're
<v Speaker 1>not allowed to touch someone who's sleeping or pretending to sleep,
<v Speaker 1>like even to the point that like you can't like
<v Speaker 1>shake them awake. I remember there was a scene I
<v Speaker 1>was doing and it was like the person was sleeping
<v Speaker 1>and then someone comes in to like wake them up
<v Speaker 1>for like I don't know, I brought them breakfast in
<v Speaker 1>better second. It was like a romantic scene and they
<v Speaker 1>couldn't even touch them to like wake them up or
<v Speaker 1>like give them a kiss while they were sleeping because
<v Speaker 1>it was non consensual because the person was sleeping. No way,
<v Speaker 1>I never watch it's so stupid. So we had to
<v Speaker 1>like the person had to like wake up because I
<v Speaker 1>don't know, the other person sat on the bed or
<v Speaker 1>something and like the shifting of the matches just woke
<v Speaker 1>them up. Okay, so we had to like, you know,
<v Speaker 1>change it. But that little thing we couldn't do because
<v Speaker 1>it was non consensual. It's a non consensual kiss that
<v Speaker 1>I know. And it's just like sometimes it gets so
<v Speaker 1>you could so extreme in like little instances like that
<v Speaker 1>that you wouldn't think was a big deal. It was
<v Speaker 1>like that's crazy. Yeah, I really never heard of that. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>it was really Oh it was really dumb. But like
<v Speaker 1>Browsers especially is very careful, yeah, with the content that
<v Speaker 1>they make because they're target right, you know, like they're
<v Speaker 1>the biggest porn site in the world, and like if
<v Speaker 1>the government's going to fucking go after one brand, it's
<v Speaker 1>going to be them. I Mean, porn have already had
<v Speaker 1>all their issues, so you know, they have to be
<v Speaker 1>extra special careful. But yeah, I just remember being like
<v Speaker 1>this is wild, like this it is at hand. It
<v Speaker 1>is really crazy. Okay, well, Sally, thank you so much
<v Speaker 1>for coming on. It's been such a pleasure.
<v Speaker 2>Thank you.
<v Speaker 1>Can you let everybody know where they can find you online? Please?
<v Speaker 2>Yes. As mentioned sometimes it's pretty hard to find someone
<v Speaker 2>out there because of the rules of YouTube and whatever.
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, you can just google my name, Sally Dinosaur,
<v Speaker 2>and you will find a lot of stuff, even my
<v Speaker 2>own website where so everything you need. So yeah, just
<v Speaker 2>google my name and you will find out.
<v Speaker 1>Do you have like an Instagram people can go to.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, also like dinosaurum. Yes, at Sally Dinosaur.
<v Speaker 1>It has also the blue the blue check mark. Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>Do you get a lot of impostors?
<v Speaker 2>Yes, I had a big problem the last year. It
<v Speaker 2>was crazy. It was like Selly Dinebach or something that
<v Speaker 2>was a German name. Yeah, and it was I think
<v Speaker 2>some people I knew.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so I am no, don't trust them.
<v Speaker 2>But I talked about that also on on Instagram and
<v Speaker 2>I even have a highlights.
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, it's crazy. Though people will still it doesn't
<v Speaker 1>matter like how often you tell people like where your
<v Speaker 1>verified accounts are, they will still go to the fake ones,
<v Speaker 1>and like, I started a new Instagram for one of
<v Speaker 1>our platforms, which I haven't announced yet, so I won't
<v Speaker 1>name it. But I went to go look for my
<v Speaker 1>own name to follow myself, and I couldn't find it
<v Speaker 1>because I'm shadow band on Instagram. Oh my, I'm just
<v Speaker 1>at Holly randall right, you cannot find me?
<v Speaker 2>Still?
<v Speaker 1>No, okay, but all the fake accounts that are pretending
<v Speaker 1>to me to be me come up? Oh my god. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I was just like, are you kidding me? So all
<v Speaker 1>the fake accounts come up when you search my name,
<v Speaker 1>but me I don't come up.
<v Speaker 2>I fixed it the day before I go to LA.
<v Speaker 2>So it's really when you concerned to. I really wanted
<v Speaker 2>to fix that problem because when I tell people, okay,
<v Speaker 2>Sally Dinosaur, and then there's Sally dot Dinosaur, this shiny
<v Speaker 2>Sally Dinosaur that's also me, but it's my backup account,
<v Speaker 2>and sometimes it's of course, when I have this big account,
<v Speaker 2>then you should really get into that fake account and
<v Speaker 2>follow this big account also with like brands and stuff
<v Speaker 2>you want to collapse or stuff you want to connect
<v Speaker 2>with them. I don't want to do that with my second, third, fifth,
<v Speaker 2>I don't know account. I want to do that with
<v Speaker 2>my main account, and people had to type in my
<v Speaker 2>name completely like yeah, the last letter and then it
<v Speaker 2>it showed up. But yeah, that's annoying.
<v Speaker 1>It is, which is why you should go to hollylinks
<v Speaker 1>dot com and it'll have direct links to like my Instagram,
<v Speaker 1>to my Twitter, to my YouTube, to my only bands,
<v Speaker 1>to all the platforms. That way, you don't have to
<v Speaker 1>like go searching for me because yeah, it's a nightmare.
<v Speaker 1>So that's where that's where you can find me. And
<v Speaker 1>thank you guys so much for watching. Thank you to
<v Speaker 1>my Patreon members for subscribing and for supporting the show.
<v Speaker 1>We didn't have time to do the bonus Q and
<v Speaker 1>A on this because I'm on like a super tight
<v Speaker 1>schedule here at ABN, but I saw the questions that
<v Speaker 1>you guys sent in, so thank you so much. We'll
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