RETRO Week in Review (2021): Women's Division in Chaos, Roman Reigns Saves The Day & WWE Being Sold?

<v Speaker 1>All right, well, it is time to discuss this week
<v Speaker 1>in WWE. Certainly no shortage of news coming out this
<v Speaker 1>week with the massive releases and all the storylines leading
<v Speaker 1>to the Hell on Assault pay per view, which is
<v Speaker 1>just two weeks away now. So Mimi Burris and myself
<v Speaker 1>are going to get everything going right now.
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<v Speaker 1>All right, everybody, welcome to the WWE Podcast. It's the
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<v Speaker 1>Burris joins me tonight to talk about everything that's going on.
<v Speaker 1>We talk I mean, I think we talked about just
<v Speaker 1>just about everything. We've left very few things off the
<v Speaker 1>table and fantasy booked out, but also talked about, of course,
<v Speaker 1>the releases that happened, the massive releases where each of
<v Speaker 1>those individuals could land. Mimi was a little bit more
<v Speaker 1>intelligent in her responses than I were than I was,
<v Speaker 1>because she she pays attention to AW a little bit
<v Speaker 1>more than I do. N NXT for that matter, which
<v Speaker 1>is why we have her as part of the team. Right,
<v Speaker 1>she makes me look good because she certainly knows her
<v Speaker 1>knows her stuff, and so that's my dirty little secret.
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<v Speaker 1>All right, and welcome to the Week in Review. And
<v Speaker 1>it's been a long time. It's been too damn long
<v Speaker 1>since I've had Mimi Burrahs back on the show with me,
<v Speaker 1>and it feels like a long lost friend and I
<v Speaker 1>have reunited because we not only get to talk about wrestling.
<v Speaker 1>But boyle Bory, are we timing this very very well
<v Speaker 1>with all of the massive news coming out of WWE
<v Speaker 1>of the releases and as we head closer to Helen
<v Speaker 1>to sell what these releases could really mean. And first,
<v Speaker 1>welcome Mamie. How's everything going? You guys know her obviously
<v Speaker 1>from the highs and lows of the week and the
<v Speaker 1>aw Dynamite review. So how you doing.
<v Speaker 3>I'm good.
<v Speaker 4>I'm still employed with my job, so I can't complain.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's that is true. You didn't get future endeavored
<v Speaker 1>this week. I hope. Now that's good. That's good. And uh,
<v Speaker 1>that would mean though that if you're a WW employee,
<v Speaker 1>you've got I mean, I gotta say I. We all
<v Speaker 1>know that working for any company, if you get lackadaisical
<v Speaker 1>and you start to get complacent in your job, you
<v Speaker 1>and you think you're indispensable. The fact is you're not indispensable.
<v Speaker 1>Everyone nearly everyone is dispensable in their jobs. I understand
<v Speaker 1>that logic and creating a fire under somebody's butt and
<v Speaker 1>making sure that they're doing their job and that they
<v Speaker 1>are motivated and they're they're they're working to the best
<v Speaker 1>of their ability. But if I'm in WWE I have
<v Speaker 1>I'm working just out of fear of keeping my job.
<v Speaker 1>I've also now if I'm in WW and I'm i'm talent,
<v Speaker 1>thought to myself, Wow, well, I have these ideas for
<v Speaker 1>my creative you know, this is where I want to
<v Speaker 1>suggest I go. And now I don't know if I
<v Speaker 1>want to say anything because I might be the next
<v Speaker 1>one on the shopping block. You know. I think it's
<v Speaker 1>gonna stunt creative, creative growth from the actual talent themselves
<v Speaker 1>for going out on limb. I think it drops morale.
<v Speaker 1>I think that it also is just not good for
<v Speaker 1>PR in general, for the company and headlining as braun Strowman.
<v Speaker 1>Of course, at the top of the class, not a
<v Speaker 1>class that you want to be at the top of
<v Speaker 1>and being released. Obviously, Alis are black and others. So
<v Speaker 1>maybe I know that you've shared this a little bit
<v Speaker 1>on your show, but what are your overall thoughts of
<v Speaker 1>what the hell went on this week?
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I think there's a bunch of things to
<v Speaker 4>get into, and I don't want to jump the gun
<v Speaker 4>on anything like we said as to what this might
<v Speaker 4>lead to or anything along those lines, but I.
<v Speaker 3>Think that.
<v Speaker 4>I think that it's sad whenever, and when anybody loses
<v Speaker 4>their job. I think I think some releases are a
<v Speaker 4>little bit more quote unquote surprising than others.
<v Speaker 3>But at the same.
<v Speaker 4>Time, I also think, you know, just I read a
<v Speaker 4>headline this week that said that, you know the reason
<v Speaker 4>why Alistair Black and well, this is all obviously budget cuts, right,
<v Speaker 4>so you know we can make more money for shareholders
<v Speaker 4>and all that stuff. It's just like every penny matters.
<v Speaker 4>But I read some headline that said the real reason
<v Speaker 4>why Alistair Black and Buddy Murphy got released was because
<v Speaker 4>Vince didn't get their style of wrestling, And I'm laughing.
<v Speaker 4>I'm like, what's not to get entertaining wrestling? Just you know,
<v Speaker 4>two of the most talented wrestlers in the world. I mean,
<v Speaker 4>you have a guy who's getting comparison to the Kenny
<v Speaker 4>Omega and then you have probably one of the best
<v Speaker 4>strikers ever in Alistair Black. So those two were the
<v Speaker 4>kind of the biggest hits for me. But the whole
<v Speaker 4>thing is that I don't know if you want to
<v Speaker 4>go through one by one. I also wanted to ask
<v Speaker 4>you where you think some of these guys and gals
<v Speaker 4>might end.
<v Speaker 1>Up yeah, so, you know, I think that what's going
<v Speaker 1>to happen. I do think some of them landed in AW.
<v Speaker 1>I mean I think that that is to me, that
<v Speaker 1>is where most people think, as released WWE talent will go.
<v Speaker 1>I don't think it's automatically a slam dunk for all
<v Speaker 1>talent that's released by WWE to go to AEW. I'm
<v Speaker 1>glad there's a second option though. I'm glad there's a
<v Speaker 1>second option for these men and women that can go
<v Speaker 1>to another place at least have the option to maybe
<v Speaker 1>go to another place that will pay them as well
<v Speaker 1>or even in some cases higher pay in AEW with
<v Speaker 1>Tony Kahan certainly has deep popping pockets. We know that,
<v Speaker 1>but not everyone's going to fit that style. They only
<v Speaker 1>have so many spots on the roster. They don't have
<v Speaker 1>a three hour show, right like. It is not as
<v Speaker 1>as open as some may think it is. So I
<v Speaker 1>do believe some will end up there. Do I think
<v Speaker 1>bron Strowan's gonna lead up there probably at some point, Yes,
<v Speaker 1>given his star power, I think he probably will, obviously
<v Speaker 1>under a different name. But I don't I don't think
<v Speaker 1>everyone does. I think certainly Buddy Murphy does. Buddy Murphy
<v Speaker 1>is probably going to end up there. I think Ruby
<v Speaker 1>Riot ends up there. I think that Alistair Black. I
<v Speaker 1>think I get Alistair Black could too. Honestly, I see
<v Speaker 1>I could see all of them. They all have a
<v Speaker 1>spot in that roster. You know, Ruby Riot, you know,
<v Speaker 1>I don't think she's at the top of the women's
<v Speaker 1>division in WWE. She showed some talent, but in terms
<v Speaker 1>of where she was in the you know, the pecking
<v Speaker 1>order of WWE talent on the women's side, she wasn't
<v Speaker 1>in the you know, top three. But perhaps she can
<v Speaker 1>show a different side of her in AEW. I think actually, oddly,
<v Speaker 1>even though bron Stroman's the biggest name, I think he
<v Speaker 1>fits the least in w in AEW in terms of
<v Speaker 1>how they present wrestling. And again, you cover this much
<v Speaker 1>more detail than I do, but I think his star
<v Speaker 1>power will get them there. I don't think they'll want
<v Speaker 1>him because he's so good in the ring and he's
<v Speaker 1>great on promos. I think it's just he's got a
<v Speaker 1>good size and he's got name value. That's probably what
<v Speaker 1>look at as his biggest asset. Uh And he does.
<v Speaker 1>But what do you think do you think all some
<v Speaker 1>none end up in aw.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's funny you said. I heard something also about
<v Speaker 4>the VINCC man. You just reminded me that said. The
<v Speaker 4>one of the reasons again, take all this with a
<v Speaker 4>grain of salt. And I don't remember what the sources were.
<v Speaker 4>I think it was Dave Meltzer. It probably was Dave Meltzer.
<v Speaker 4>But one of the reasons why braun Struman got released
<v Speaker 4>too was because they it's Vince already had enough big guys.
<v Speaker 3>You know, they have what's his.
<v Speaker 4>Name commander is ease and the one who's with what's
<v Speaker 4>his name amas, Yeah, but uh, the one who's with
<v Speaker 4>I'm totally blanking on his name, the Coloss as his finisher.
<v Speaker 1>The Coloss oh genderb Hal.
<v Speaker 4>Yes, but the guy who's with him, it's like scrappy
<v Speaker 4>or something.
<v Speaker 1>Oh gosh, well they only showed him. I haven't seen
<v Speaker 1>gender like a month. Like especially that.
<v Speaker 3>Had enough big guys and they were born, you know, apparently.
<v Speaker 4>But so so, just to give you, I guess a
<v Speaker 4>little information where I guess aw'st maybe a little bit more.
<v Speaker 3>Perspective and all this stuff.
<v Speaker 4>It sounds like, first of all, they are gonna have
<v Speaker 4>a show on Friday, nights that is actually airing after
<v Speaker 4>SmackDown on T and T. I think called Rampage, and
<v Speaker 4>I could be wrong about that, but it's gonna be
<v Speaker 4>like an hour two hour show. I think, you know,
<v Speaker 4>they have a couple other shows, Dark and Dark Elevation
<v Speaker 4>that are YouTube only.
<v Speaker 3>And they're kind of just Matt. They're like, they're like.
<v Speaker 4>A substitute for house shows, is the way I look
<v Speaker 4>at it now for people to get their reps. So
<v Speaker 4>that's four shows technically, right, That's a lot of content
<v Speaker 4>and they already have a stacked roster.
<v Speaker 3>I don't know.
<v Speaker 4>If you saw on Draday debuted on Friday night, Yes, yep,
<v Speaker 4>that was super exciting.
<v Speaker 3>It was kind of ho hum.
<v Speaker 4>But so I think braun Stroman stays with W TOW.
<v Speaker 4>I think he comes back in about two years once
<v Speaker 4>b mcman kind of wakes up on one side of
<v Speaker 4>the bed and changes his mind. I think, you know,
<v Speaker 4>with signing Mark Henry and the Big Show, and they've
<v Speaker 4>already got guys, it's like Miro and Lan Charcher. I
<v Speaker 4>don't I don't think, you know, AW is not your
<v Speaker 4>typical big man's company. So I don't know, And I
<v Speaker 4>think Bron Stroman is kind of a loyalist. From what
<v Speaker 4>I know, He's not like a wrestler. He's more like
<v Speaker 4>a WW superstar, not an indie guy or anything like that.
<v Speaker 3>Who knows.
<v Speaker 4>I think he could go into acting, is what I
<v Speaker 4>said on my show. I just think, you know, he
<v Speaker 4>could probably get a job from his size alone. Alistair
<v Speaker 4>Black I think goes to New Japan or AW. I
<v Speaker 4>think he wrestled in New Japan before his name was
<v Speaker 4>Tommy end or something like.
<v Speaker 3>I could be wrong.
<v Speaker 4>About that, but again, I'm not so familiar with this
<v Speaker 4>indie stuff.
<v Speaker 3>I just know very vaguely.
<v Speaker 4>I think Lana ends up going back to making all
<v Speaker 4>that money she was making before the whole third party
<v Speaker 4>deal took place, which seems like.
<v Speaker 3>Even more money than she was probably making with the company.
<v Speaker 4>I don't think she continues in wrestling. I could be wrong,
<v Speaker 4>but I was not her thing. I think Murphy goes
<v Speaker 4>to New Japan too, and then kind of makes more
<v Speaker 4>of a name for himself, and then maybe I selfishly
<v Speaker 4>would love to see Murphy in AW. I just don't
<v Speaker 4>think it's a fit right now. I think they've got
<v Speaker 4>a million guys who can wrestle like Murphy as great
<v Speaker 4>of a look as he has, and they've already got
<v Speaker 4>you know, I told you they have comparisons to Kenny Omega.
<v Speaker 4>They already have a Kenny Omega. So we'll see Ruby Riot.
<v Speaker 3>I think wrestled in Impact.
<v Speaker 4>If I'm correct, Heidi Lovely's yes, what's her name? And
<v Speaker 4>so I think she goes to AW because you know
<v Speaker 4>that women's roster could definitely use it. I think she's
<v Speaker 4>way more talented than we've seen in the last couple
<v Speaker 4>of years.
<v Speaker 3>I think she probably just.
<v Speaker 4>Stopped caring after a while, maybe because if you go
<v Speaker 4>back a couple of years, remember Ronda Rousey and her
<v Speaker 4>had a pay per review match and that Evolution pay
<v Speaker 4>per view she was on it was great. So I
<v Speaker 4>think she goes back to being something HEIGHTI Lovely, something
<v Speaker 4>along those lines.
<v Speaker 3>And if it's not AW, it's definitely Impact.
<v Speaker 4>And honestly, I don't know enough about Santana Garrett. All
<v Speaker 4>I know is that you wrestled on n XT a
<v Speaker 4>little while.
<v Speaker 3>That shows you, right, But uh, and was called her to.
<v Speaker 4>The main roster and then just never got to debut.
<v Speaker 4>So I'm I would have said that most of these
<v Speaker 4>guys and gals wouldn't be going to AW maybe you
<v Speaker 4>know Thursday. But after watching Onraida go to AW. Okay,
<v Speaker 4>now they've kind of got me hooked on that because
<v Speaker 4>I just figured that the roster was so big already
<v Speaker 4>you couldn't really sign anyone else. But if someone's a
<v Speaker 4>big name, you'll sign him, you know, which I found.
<v Speaker 3>Have a lot of.
<v Speaker 4>Creative control in AW, like he's got a veto power
<v Speaker 4>something along those lines as to whether or not he
<v Speaker 4>loses a match and things like. It sounds like he
<v Speaker 4>really knows his worth, which is super exciting and awesome
<v Speaker 4>for him. I'm happy he finally found a place that
<v Speaker 4>treats him like that, so talented.
<v Speaker 1>So your thought is, and I didn't even think of
<v Speaker 1>that with broun Strowman. You think he doubles back and
<v Speaker 1>goes back to WWE and doesn't do anything for the
<v Speaker 1>time being in wrestling and just eventually just lands back
<v Speaker 1>in WWE.
<v Speaker 4>He probably goes an AX or something and makes a
<v Speaker 4>bigger name for himself. I think, or what is perceived
<v Speaker 4>as such, I just can't and again maybe I'm wrong,
<v Speaker 4>but I just can't picture him anywhere else. I think
<v Speaker 4>he from what I've seen too. He's like a he
<v Speaker 4>won't even hear and he offers from any other companies.
<v Speaker 4>He's like a ww loyalist. So it's kind of like
<v Speaker 4>he'll get screwed over and and come back in sad
<v Speaker 4>to think about, but that's I mean, how many other
<v Speaker 4>people have we seen do things like that to get released?
<v Speaker 3>Mickey James got released, came back.
<v Speaker 4>I had a great interview with her, actually, you know,
<v Speaker 4>it was sad to hear, but just at where she
<v Speaker 4>seems fine and obviously where she's at making country music
<v Speaker 4>and all this stuff. But just I remember being ten
<v Speaker 4>twelve years old and the one women's wrestler that I
<v Speaker 4>actually really enjoyed at the time. This is like pre
<v Speaker 4>aj Lee for this is pre Diva's era too.
<v Speaker 3>Was Mickey James.
<v Speaker 4>So sad, but obviously her name is not on this
<v Speaker 4>particular list, but is in the name of like twenty
<v Speaker 4>seven other wrestlers that got released this year.
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, you think about Mickey James. I know she's
<v Speaker 1>not on the list, as you said this past week,
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, her match with Tristan Stratus was a WrestleMania
<v Speaker 1>twenty Oh gosh, when she did the infamous hand gesture
<v Speaker 1>and that they actually edited out of the WrestleMania that
<v Speaker 1>that particular matchup. But I think that Brontu Okay, well,
<v Speaker 1>braun Stroman the guy who's leading this class. I think
<v Speaker 1>that number one, he's the biggest shock. And it's weird
<v Speaker 1>because he is a guy that Vince McMahon would look
<v Speaker 1>at and go, that's the guy, right. He's big, he
<v Speaker 1>draws attention, he he does have charisma, he's got the
<v Speaker 1>Vince McMahon look. And you're you know, you're looking around
<v Speaker 1>and you're thinking, what the hell is Vince McMahon thinking
<v Speaker 1>these days? Because you have a guy that was just
<v Speaker 1>on a main event of a pay per view a
<v Speaker 1>few weeks ago, you know, he won the Universal Championship
<v Speaker 1>last WrestleMania. What is going on? You know? Broun Strowman
<v Speaker 1>is the perfect example of you can't be safe. You
<v Speaker 1>can't feel safe in WWE right now. I don't. I
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't want to be in a place that I'm always
<v Speaker 1>looking over my shoulder waiting for that call from talent
<v Speaker 1>head of talent relations with with you know a you know,
<v Speaker 1>thanks for all your services, but we're moving on. I mean,
<v Speaker 1>I would, I would be so stressed out, and so
<v Speaker 1>I guess the question to you is, I'll let you
<v Speaker 1>take this because I think we have the same answer.
<v Speaker 1>What is all of this leading to? What is the
<v Speaker 1>purpose of cleaning house right now? I'll let you take it.
<v Speaker 4>Go ahead what I've heard, and I don't know if
<v Speaker 4>I agree with it, And I assume you're on the
<v Speaker 4>same pages I've heard, unless you work totally on different pages,
<v Speaker 4>and this is just gonna be weird. But I think
<v Speaker 4>that that there. You know, there's been talks of that
<v Speaker 4>they're possibly selling the company H, which is kind of
<v Speaker 4>funny to think about because I always thought that either
<v Speaker 4>Bruce Pritchard would take it or Triple H and there
<v Speaker 4>was kind of a whole you know, there's a conspiracy
<v Speaker 4>theory about the inner battle between those two guys. But
<v Speaker 4>my I guess my thoughts on that before I thirty
<v Speaker 4>was I just can't. It's like, there's so many reasons
<v Speaker 4>why that looks valid, right, Like I could give you
<v Speaker 4>like a whole list of bullet points. It's the reasons
<v Speaker 4>why it looks like WW is gonna you know, they're
<v Speaker 4>gonna sell the company to whoever. And then the other
<v Speaker 4>side of the list is just like a bullet point
<v Speaker 4>that says Vince McMahon and the two equal up. You know,
<v Speaker 4>just like, can't imagine that company even still where it's
<v Speaker 4>at today. I can't imagine that company not having a
<v Speaker 4>McMahon run it.
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, I don't know.
<v Speaker 4>Maybe that's just muscle memory at this point.
<v Speaker 3>But I also think who would they sell it to?
<v Speaker 4>Maybe Disney is my best guess, but you can't really
<v Speaker 4>sell it to NBC because you're your best show.
<v Speaker 3>Right now is on Fox, So I don't know.
<v Speaker 4>I also think the other option, or the other idea too,
<v Speaker 4>is you've got that guy Nick con obviously, who's who's
<v Speaker 4>newer in the company h And it's probably, you know,
<v Speaker 4>just like the trying to think of you only comparison
<v Speaker 4>I can think of it was the Office, but I
<v Speaker 4>don't think it makes a lot of sense. So just
<v Speaker 4>the guy who comes in Clean's house a little bit
<v Speaker 4>and then does his job for a year or two
<v Speaker 4>and then leaves the company, like his job is just
<v Speaker 4>to come in or Parks and rec Have you ever
<v Speaker 4>seen Parks and Rec?
<v Speaker 3>Oh?
<v Speaker 1>God, yeah, every episode he did.
<v Speaker 3>Those what's their name?
<v Speaker 4>The two guys, the one who ends up marrying, and
<v Speaker 4>the blonde one I can't remember.
<v Speaker 1>Their names, oh gosh, well, and the really.
<v Speaker 3>Really happy guy. The auditor is the tacks guys.
<v Speaker 4>They come in and like basically make cuts of all
<v Speaker 4>this other stuff and then they're supposed to leave. Like
<v Speaker 4>I feel like that's what nick Con is doing, because
<v Speaker 4>if you think about it, this was not happening before that.
<v Speaker 4>I mean, obviously talent was getting released, but not to
<v Speaker 4>this extent.
<v Speaker 3>So those are my thoughts. I don't know exactly what's
<v Speaker 3>gonna happen. I just can't. I think if they they
<v Speaker 3>sell it, they sell.
<v Speaker 4>It to Disney, is my best guess. But then you
<v Speaker 4>just have this Peacock deal, So how does that work?
<v Speaker 1>There is something. Yeah, the Peacock deal, I mean obviously
<v Speaker 1>just happened. But so they got their money, right, ww
<v Speaker 1>got their money. They got their billion dollars and I thought,
<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh, okay, great, you know stocks socks went
<v Speaker 1>up from that? A stock price didta that That is
<v Speaker 1>Walt Disney is the one that I've heard that is
<v Speaker 1>the one that is most probable. I mean, there's other
<v Speaker 1>media entities out there that may be interested. Again, there's
<v Speaker 1>nothing confirmed this is all speculation. But you know, when
<v Speaker 1>you when you dump a contract the size of Bronze Stroman's,
<v Speaker 1>who was reportedly making over a million dollars a year
<v Speaker 1>plus merchandise, uh, merchant royalties, you have one has to wonder.
<v Speaker 1>You know that they are cleaning up their books, They're
<v Speaker 1>cleaning up their accounting in preparation for a deal. You
<v Speaker 1>know that that that is this the telltale sign. And
<v Speaker 1>also given the fact that braun Strowman, he's an asset
<v Speaker 1>to the company. I mean, we could sit here and
<v Speaker 1>you know, belittle the Chew chew train noises and the
<v Speaker 1>whole book Bronze storyline, like we could, we could tear
<v Speaker 1>apart the creative for him, and he has had some
<v Speaker 1>bad creative over the years. And when you look back
<v Speaker 1>at his career, the guy has never really had one
<v Speaker 1>great opponent. He's done a lot of stunts with guys
<v Speaker 1>from SNL a ten year old he won the tag
<v Speaker 1>team titles with he was lucked and really yeah, he
<v Speaker 1>tripped into the Universal Championship match at last year's WrestleMania
<v Speaker 1>because of COVID and Roman Reigns stepping away. I mean,
<v Speaker 1>the guy has had some really strange matchups again. Who
<v Speaker 1>was that boxer that came in just last year. I
<v Speaker 1>can't remember his name, Yes, Tyson Furiy. He does all
<v Speaker 1>these like specialty attraction things. He doesn't ever really have
<v Speaker 1>a great opponent. He just does these entertainment ty things.
<v Speaker 1>So but at the same time, there is a place
<v Speaker 1>for that, and WW loves that kind of stuff. And
<v Speaker 1>when you dump a guy like Stroman that there was
<v Speaker 1>no signs, you know, pointing to that there was. There
<v Speaker 1>was nothing that anyone said to go, man, yeah, we
<v Speaker 1>haven't heard him or heard or seen him in a while.
<v Speaker 1>You know, look out where Alistair Black was a surprise.
<v Speaker 1>But at the same time, you were like, well, they
<v Speaker 1>haven't really done anything with them other than these last
<v Speaker 1>few vignettes and he you know, black Mass big ee.
<v Speaker 1>But that's it.
<v Speaker 4>Uh.
<v Speaker 1>You know, usually when somebody's about to get tanked, you
<v Speaker 1>don't see them for quite a while. All of a
<v Speaker 1>sudden you just see they've been future endeavored and like, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>well we haven't seen him in two months. That makes sense.
<v Speaker 1>But bron Stroman, man, and that's a huge contract that
<v Speaker 1>they just dumped. So I mean, I don't want Walt
<v Speaker 1>Disney to absorb WWA really actually don't. I don't know
<v Speaker 1>how they would manage the company. I know Vince McMahon
<v Speaker 1>is out of touch at this point, but man, I
<v Speaker 1>don't want Mickey Mouse being the raw you know, GM
<v Speaker 1>of Raw, Like I just I don't. I mean, it's
<v Speaker 1>cartoony enough at times, but do you really think this
<v Speaker 1>could happen?
<v Speaker 4>Do you really think Mickey Mouse would be that much
<v Speaker 4>worse than Grumpy Cat?
<v Speaker 3>It's true, you remember that, like that.
<v Speaker 4>Was and that was years after Grumpy Cat was even
<v Speaker 4>a thing.
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, yes, I forgot about that.
<v Speaker 4>No, I I guess my thoughts are And again I'm
<v Speaker 4>more speaking about Raw when I when I say this
<v Speaker 4>because obviously a lot of all the shows have their
<v Speaker 4>own issues, but you know, not three hours straight of issues.
<v Speaker 3>I think how much worse could it really get?
<v Speaker 4>You know, not to be that person, but how much
<v Speaker 4>worse could it really get?
<v Speaker 3>If I also think you think this guy's gonna sell?
<v Speaker 4>Do you think Vince mcmanon sells the company if they
<v Speaker 4>let's say, let's say that's the plan, right, Do you
<v Speaker 4>think he sells it before he's going to retire, or
<v Speaker 4>do you think he sells it which, by the way
<v Speaker 4>I think will be when you know, rust in peace
<v Speaker 4>and to man. When that happens, I think that's probably when,
<v Speaker 4>you know. But do you think he does it before
<v Speaker 4>then or around that time, or do you think he
<v Speaker 4>still works for the company if he sells it. I
<v Speaker 4>just can't see that man working for anybody ever.
<v Speaker 1>Well, he already essentially is working for his sponsors. I
<v Speaker 1>mean that's how they They drive a lot of their
<v Speaker 1>creative and they're very careful with what storylines they present,
<v Speaker 1>and oftentimes they're writing for their sponsors and stakeholders and
<v Speaker 1>shareholders rather than the general viewing audience. I think we
<v Speaker 1>come second. So he's essentially already working for somebody now anyway,
<v Speaker 1>and that's the people dumping money in his pockets. So yeah,
<v Speaker 1>he would kind of have an overlord of a boss
<v Speaker 1>with NBC Universal. I mean, I you know, obviously the
<v Speaker 1>owners of Disney, but I don't know what the relationship
<v Speaker 1>would look like with Vince and the executives over at
<v Speaker 1>you know, Walt Disney. Perhaps they do kind of come
<v Speaker 1>to some agreement where yeah, I got you know, we
<v Speaker 1>did buy you, but you're still running the company. You're
<v Speaker 1>still you know, in charge of everything. Uh, you know,
<v Speaker 1>you don't have to run everything creatively by us. I don't.
<v Speaker 1>I don't know enough about the inner workings of Disney
<v Speaker 1>to uh to really speak on that. So perhaps he
<v Speaker 1>sells it, still makes a ton of money off the sale,
<v Speaker 1>but yet is running it behind the scenes just as
<v Speaker 1>he always was. I don't know.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's all super interesting.
<v Speaker 4>Again, I'm not I'm not going to pretend to be
<v Speaker 4>versed in any kind of business stuff either.
<v Speaker 3>I don't know either.
<v Speaker 4>All I know is that I do just how much
<v Speaker 4>more money do you really need to be? Like record
<v Speaker 4>profits during a pandemic? Like that's another thing just to
<v Speaker 4>point out too. I feel like it's interesting to talk
<v Speaker 4>about it all this stuff, but like, at the same time,
<v Speaker 4>a lot of these times we can I.
<v Speaker 3>Feel like these people just become you know, people on
<v Speaker 3>a like almost TV characters to us, piece of real.
<v Speaker 4>Live human beings, right who Now we're making you know,
<v Speaker 4>one point whatever million dollars a year, and now they're
<v Speaker 4>not making any money at the moment, you know, and
<v Speaker 4>obviously with them being independent contractors where it's beneficial to
<v Speaker 4>the company and the employees essentially where it's beneficial to
<v Speaker 4>the company. So they can't wrestle anywhere else, but they
<v Speaker 4>also have to pay for their own healthcare. Ravel how
<v Speaker 4>much money could they really be saving like all these stuffs,
<v Speaker 4>just like it's it's the and we're still in a pandemic.
<v Speaker 4>I know we're obviously rolling out the vaccines like nobody's business,
<v Speaker 4>but like it's still a pandemic, and you're still releasing
<v Speaker 4>talent during a pandemic, and not to mention, like you
<v Speaker 4>release all this talent the minute, Like the indie circuit is,
<v Speaker 4>you know, at its worst, and yeah, there's aw but
<v Speaker 4>like New Japan has been probably at its worst right now.
<v Speaker 4>Two from what I've heard, impact has the same. You know,
<v Speaker 4>two hundred thousand people who watch the show every week
<v Speaker 4>like hoard all the talent and then you know, the
<v Speaker 4>pandemic is almost like a blessing in their cynical minds,
<v Speaker 4>where oh now we can release all this talent.
<v Speaker 3>We don't have to worry about them being competition.
<v Speaker 4>Maybe I'm looking at it as a really cynical view,
<v Speaker 4>but I just I don't put anything past the company
<v Speaker 4>at this point said.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah it is, and you know, I think that we'll
<v Speaker 1>learn more in the coming months. Some people have speculated
<v Speaker 1>that this can happen a lot sooner than people think,
<v Speaker 1>and I don't I don't know it would be you
<v Speaker 1>talk about media headlines, I mean for for WWE to
<v Speaker 1>be sold, the Internet would explode. I mean, the wrestling
<v Speaker 1>community would would go insane. And you know what does
<v Speaker 1>this mean? What kind of content are we going to get?
<v Speaker 1>Is you know who's going to head it up? But
<v Speaker 1>like you said, like money wise, I've looked at their financials.
<v Speaker 1>They aren't doing bad and a lot of it has
<v Speaker 1>unfortunately come at the expense of releasing a lot of talent.
<v Speaker 1>I understand, just like any company, they've had to deal
<v Speaker 1>with the financial hardships of the COVID era, the pandemic era.
<v Speaker 1>They call it the thunder to home, it's the pandemic era.
<v Speaker 1>It is certainly it's tough, and I get that, But
<v Speaker 1>they just made a billion dollar a deal over five
<v Speaker 1>years with the Peacock purchase of the ww network. And
<v Speaker 1>you know, they've released a lot of their money because
<v Speaker 1>of dropping talent and dropping not just talent but behind
<v Speaker 1>the scenes staff people that set up the ring, travel
<v Speaker 1>agents like and yes, they'll have to bring some of
<v Speaker 1>those people back on as the travel starts to ramp
<v Speaker 1>up again after a year and a half, starting in
<v Speaker 1>mid July. But yeah, I don't know. It seems that
<v Speaker 1>they are, at least in the public perception that they
<v Speaker 1>are so focused on money and they look like a
<v Speaker 1>money hungry like for profit organization. And yes, like they
<v Speaker 1>are for profit, but you don't want to look like
<v Speaker 1>you're so enamored with the dollar that you forget about
<v Speaker 1>the humanity part of it. And it looks like a
<v Speaker 1>lot of this is just the hell with the hell
<v Speaker 1>with people we're releasing, you know. I mean, I'd love
<v Speaker 1>to know the amount of people that they've released between
<v Speaker 1>April of twenty twelve and now. I mean, somebody has
<v Speaker 1>to compile a number. It's got to be one hundred
<v Speaker 1>plus hundred and fifty people. I feel like it's so
<v Speaker 1>many people they've released, but it looks they just don't
<v Speaker 1>now do not have a good like pr perspective right
<v Speaker 1>now or at least the optics are terrible for WWE
<v Speaker 1>and the ratings are at at all time low, particularly
<v Speaker 1>for Monday Night Raw. So any final thoughts, Again, we're
<v Speaker 1>all speculating on this. This may this may not happen.
<v Speaker 1>We could be talking about this for no reason, but
<v Speaker 1>I think it's something worth discussing. But any final thoughts
<v Speaker 1>on this before we get to the actual content of
<v Speaker 1>the product.
<v Speaker 4>No, I'm glad you mentioned the people backstage two because
<v Speaker 4>I also wanted to say that that's you know, obviously
<v Speaker 4>we don't know them as well. But just because we
<v Speaker 4>don't know them as well doesn't mean they're any less important, obviously,
<v Speaker 4>But so I'm just glad you mentioned that. No, I'm
<v Speaker 4>ready to get in the sandbox because all of this
<v Speaker 4>is really depressing.
<v Speaker 1>I know it is. It is so sorry, guys, but
<v Speaker 1>it is at the forefront. And if WW does sell,
<v Speaker 1>I mean, look out things are it's going to be
<v Speaker 1>an explosion of of podcasts from US and I'm sure
<v Speaker 1>from the rest of the wrestling community. But okay, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>let's get to the actual stuff that is not as
<v Speaker 1>important but much more fun to talk about, of course,
<v Speaker 1>the product. And let's start with something really positive. And
<v Speaker 1>it seems like I start out this with this topic
<v Speaker 1>every single time, but it is so good, at least
<v Speaker 1>in my eyes, in the Roman Reigns, right like Roman
<v Speaker 1>Reigns and the Juso Jimmy Usso storyline that is continuing
<v Speaker 1>to evolve. I think this has really been the savior,
<v Speaker 1>not just for SmackDown, but for WWE as a whole.
<v Speaker 1>I think this storyline and Roman Reigns in particular, has
<v Speaker 1>been insurmountably important to not having WWE co completely in
<v Speaker 1>the toilet. In terms of creative this has been just
<v Speaker 1>I can't underscore enough I think how important this storyline's
<v Speaker 1>been to the perception of WWE product. But that's at
<v Speaker 1>least my perspective. So what are your take this week
<v Speaker 1>on how everything evolved with Jimmy and Jay getting two
<v Speaker 1>opportunities for the tag team titles and they end up
<v Speaker 1>squandering both, albeit in controversial fashion for both, and then
<v Speaker 1>Roman reigns just dismantling Ray and Dominic to end SmackDown.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I agree with you one hundred percent.
<v Speaker 4>The Roman reign stuff is the best stuff going on
<v Speaker 4>in WWE, and if not, like a lot of wrestling today,
<v Speaker 4>I think he is so amazing at what he's doing.
<v Speaker 4>He like he surpasses any any other things on that show,
<v Speaker 4>any show, n XC raw at all. It's like no competition.
<v Speaker 4>And I think Jay Uso, particularly or as Roman would
<v Speaker 4>call him, Jimmy, I think jay Usso is probably like
<v Speaker 4>the best reactor I've seen in so long.
<v Speaker 3>I think that's like a Paul Hayman thing.
<v Speaker 4>He talks a lot about about like reacting not too much,
<v Speaker 4>but also like showing in a promotion.
<v Speaker 3>He's so good at. Like I want, like I'm.
<v Speaker 4>Worried about j USO's mental health as I'm watching the show,
<v Speaker 4>and like that just shows up or that goes to obviously,
<v Speaker 4>how how great of an actor he's been. I'll say
<v Speaker 4>about the two matches in one night, I get the storyline.
<v Speaker 4>I think if there weren't fifteen false finishes and every show,
<v Speaker 4>I wouldn't care as much or distractions or roll ups
<v Speaker 4>and all that other stuff d q's and everything else.
<v Speaker 3>I think I would be a little bit more forgiving
<v Speaker 3>of it.
<v Speaker 4>But but I don't know. You had the same match
<v Speaker 4>twice and you didn't even have a real finish either time.
<v Speaker 4>Though I'm all for maybe this is like the sick
<v Speaker 4>part of my brain, but I was all for watching,
<v Speaker 4>you know, the dominic mysterio beat down. We haven't seen
<v Speaker 4>something like that since brock Lesner during the I forget
<v Speaker 4>the guy's name, the one who came and is supposedly
<v Speaker 4>his like godfather something, the what's his name? You know
<v Speaker 4>what I'm talking about, the bald One. They thought it like,
<v Speaker 4>you know, Super Showdown or something like that.
<v Speaker 3>It was terrible. The UFC Fighter.
<v Speaker 1>Oh oh with Kane Velaskas Kean Velaskas.
<v Speaker 4>Yes, we haven't seen obviously a beatdown like that on
<v Speaker 4>the Masterios since I think the whole Kanevelaskaz era with
<v Speaker 4>brock Lesner just like murdering and dominating the sterio essentially
<v Speaker 4>that one time.
<v Speaker 3>So you know, I'm into it. This is the one
<v Speaker 3>thing I'm really kind of invested on. WW.
<v Speaker 4>The one thing I'm not so excited for too, and
<v Speaker 4>I'll throw it back to you, is it sounds like
<v Speaker 4>they're going with Jimmy usso Roman reigns and Helen a
<v Speaker 4>Cell match kind of like technically or whatever, poetic whatever
<v Speaker 4>for last year's Helena Cell match. But I don't know
<v Speaker 4>about you. I'm just not interested in that. I like
<v Speaker 4>what's going on. I just I don't know. I don't
<v Speaker 4>need to see a match between Roman and Jimmy yet.
<v Speaker 4>But maybe you feel differently. I think I'm in the
<v Speaker 4>minority on that take. So yeah, I'd love to hear
<v Speaker 4>your thoughts about all that too, well, I.
<v Speaker 1>Will say that. You know, I'm not like, I'm not
<v Speaker 1>sitting here going, oh my god, this is going to
<v Speaker 1>be amazing. I can't wait until they get in the ring.
<v Speaker 1>Jimmy might be able to take the belt from him.
<v Speaker 1>Those are not things I'm thinking. I'm looking at this going,
<v Speaker 1>this is a necessary step that I'm willing to go
<v Speaker 1>through to get the actual blood line. Hopefully they finally
<v Speaker 1>just labeled themselves as the blood Line, because that's a
<v Speaker 1>badass name. Can we just finally say that. I mean,
<v Speaker 1>I don't know why we're not even there yet, but
<v Speaker 1>I'm understanding of this because I think number one, you know,
<v Speaker 1>the match quality is gonna be just fine, very good.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's not the problem. It is poetic. We
<v Speaker 1>understand what happened last year with Jimmy and getting choked
<v Speaker 1>out and the whole crying charade that Roman Reigns put on,
<v Speaker 1>which was just damn brilliant. At that point, I said,
<v Speaker 1>this guy is gonna be effing money as a heel.
<v Speaker 1>I mean that's that was just so great that he
<v Speaker 1>could just put create tears on command. So yes, it's poetic.
<v Speaker 1>The match quality is gonna be fine. Is it something
<v Speaker 1>that people are thinking, Oh my god, GIU so could
<v Speaker 1>actually win the Universal Championship. No, that's not the point.
<v Speaker 1>The point is to get him to fall in line,
<v Speaker 1>just as Jay Uso did facing Roman reigns for a
<v Speaker 1>couple of months prior to him finally bowing to the
<v Speaker 1>tribal chief. Jimmy's going through the same story, same path
<v Speaker 1>I think that Jay did, and he will reluctantly finally
<v Speaker 1>acknowledge Roman reigns and he'll fall in line, and then
<v Speaker 1>he'll have backup. I don't want to see Jimmy and
<v Speaker 1>Jay defect from Roman because then it becomes the Ussos
<v Speaker 1>versus Roman, and to me, that's that's not the story here.
<v Speaker 1>To me, they are perfect backup, perfect heavies for Roman.
<v Speaker 1>I think Roman would be an excellent leader of both.
<v Speaker 1>He kind of already is. But it's a little muddy
<v Speaker 1>right now. So I just think the purpose of it
<v Speaker 1>is to get Jimmy to fall in line to get
<v Speaker 1>to Roman's real next opponent, whomever that may be.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think you're right, and you make a good
<v Speaker 4>point about that. Not every match, obviously, I mean we're
<v Speaker 4>pretty clear that probably any challenger is not going to
<v Speaker 4>be is not going to be beating Roman Reigns anytime soon.
<v Speaker 3>But again, as long as they.
<v Speaker 4>Do something that's different enough where because again they're twins, right,
<v Speaker 4>so you're already battling up that, you know uphill there
<v Speaker 4>as to not repeating the exact same thing. Though as
<v Speaker 4>obviously we saw on SmackDown, I don't think they really
<v Speaker 4>care about that. So, I mean, I don't know, do
<v Speaker 4>they do another I quit.
<v Speaker 3>Match in the hell in the cell?
<v Speaker 4>Like, I just how do they make this a little
<v Speaker 4>bit different than last year's.
<v Speaker 3>Maybe they don't do that. Maybe I don't know.
<v Speaker 4>I'm with you, though, I think having having both usso's
<v Speaker 4>against Roman makes Roman almost a de facto babyface because
<v Speaker 4>you've got a two on one situation. So I don't know,
<v Speaker 4>but I will say overall, I'm enjoying obviously everything that
<v Speaker 4>Roman Rines does. It's the one, you know, bright spot.
<v Speaker 3>I feel like in a lot of ww's.
<v Speaker 4>Programming today, and you know, at least maybe not so
<v Speaker 4>much this week obviously, but it bleeds down into the
<v Speaker 4>rest of the show. You know, when the main event
<v Speaker 4>is really good and and you're interested in that and
<v Speaker 4>it's a story thread throughout the show, Like I'm more
<v Speaker 4>interested in watching the rest of what's going on.
<v Speaker 3>I don't know why that works.
<v Speaker 4>Maybe again, like it's just the story thread that's throughout
<v Speaker 4>the two hours of SmackDown. But it's such it's such
<v Speaker 4>interesting thing because I feel like we haven't seen that
<v Speaker 4>in forever. We've had a couple of good storylines at
<v Speaker 4>the top of some programs, But Roman Rains has been
<v Speaker 4>the savior of this whole pandemic era.
<v Speaker 1>There's no question he is the true Messiah. Sorry, Seth,
<v Speaker 1>I mean, he really really is. And I loved the
<v Speaker 1>way and you you quickly brushed on this how Roman
<v Speaker 1>intentionally called jay Uso Jimmy and touched on you know,
<v Speaker 1>does it really matter who's who at the end of
<v Speaker 1>the day, because it's so true at the beginning of
<v Speaker 1>their careers, nobody I couldn't tell who was who. No
<v Speaker 1>one knew and I'm sure people did say to them, now,
<v Speaker 1>which one are you? And that's just so disrespectful but
<v Speaker 1>understandable given where they were in WWE. They look the
<v Speaker 1>exact same, they dressed the exact same. Now there's no
<v Speaker 1>there's no there's there's really no comparison. I mean they
<v Speaker 1>look similar, but they they talk different, they act a
<v Speaker 1>little bit different. Of course, Jimmy's got a little bit
<v Speaker 1>different look than jay. They are so distinct now that
<v Speaker 1>it's like they were never they were never that team before.
<v Speaker 1>And I don't know, it's just such a nice touch
<v Speaker 1>and such an a whole move by Roman Reigns to
<v Speaker 1>say that purposefully to Jayu. So I loved it.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I was sitting there like, man, you that's what
<v Speaker 3>I was saying.
<v Speaker 4>I'm like worried about his mental health at this point,
<v Speaker 4>Like I'm just thinking, you jerk. I couldn't have, like,
<v Speaker 4>you know, picked a worse thing to do in that moment.
<v Speaker 4>It's just I really think he's gonna get booed when
<v Speaker 4>fans come back. I really think he's doing such a
<v Speaker 4>good job of towing that fine line between you know,
<v Speaker 4>heat but not channel changing heat but also.
<v Speaker 3>Not cool peel.
<v Speaker 4>It's like this very very thin line nowadays, I feel like,
<v Speaker 4>and there's very few people who can do it so well.
<v Speaker 4>And he's I'm not cheering for him. I hate the
<v Speaker 4>guy at this point, the character at least, and we.
<v Speaker 1>Heard it at WrestleMania. Everyone boot him at WrestleMania. Generally
<v Speaker 1>most people boot him, and I was concerned because it's
<v Speaker 1>typically the quote hardcore audience, a lot of international fans
<v Speaker 1>that come there on you know, and kind of gather
<v Speaker 1>for that event, and I was worried that he'd get
<v Speaker 1>cheered out of irony that he's doing such a great
<v Speaker 1>job and they're happy the ww Turnham heel, and I,
<v Speaker 1>you know, I was really hopeful, and I tried to
<v Speaker 1>send the message to whoever would hear it is, don't
<v Speaker 1>do it out of irony.
<v Speaker 3>Do it.
<v Speaker 1>The best thing that you can do to show respect
<v Speaker 1>is boo the guy. I mean, really, that is the
<v Speaker 1>best thing that you can do for a heel that's
<v Speaker 1>doing a great job and you really hate is to
<v Speaker 1>boo the hell out of him. That those are his cheers,
<v Speaker 1>so to speak. So I think you're right. I think
<v Speaker 1>he has real heat. I don't believe they'll cheer him
<v Speaker 1>because he has sing along phrases and he's cool. There
<v Speaker 1>is there's really no redeeming qualities about Roman reigns, and
<v Speaker 1>that's what's great. There's nothing to like about him. There
<v Speaker 1>really isn't. He's condescending, he's arrogant, he continually tells people
<v Speaker 1>that everything revolves around him, and you know, he is
<v Speaker 1>just just such a total d bag and I love it.
<v Speaker 1>So there's really nothing to cheer for. He's not the
<v Speaker 1>cool heel. He's not like a bray Wyatt that's built
<v Speaker 1>as a heel, but people cheer for him anyway because
<v Speaker 1>he's so cool. No, Roman Reigns is one of those
<v Speaker 1>rare heels. So I think you're right. And guys, if
<v Speaker 1>you're going to an event and you like this Roman
<v Speaker 1>Reigns heel character, the best thing you can do, please
<v Speaker 1>boo him. I mean, you can do what you want,
<v Speaker 1>it's your own money, but guys, boo him. That's how
<v Speaker 1>you'll continue to get the heel Roman Reigns.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, come and complete agreement. And it seems like I
<v Speaker 4>don't know if you watched Too Is Double or nothing.
<v Speaker 4>Was the aw pay per view on Sunday this weekend
<v Speaker 4>and again, you know, with five five hundred fans or
<v Speaker 4>something like that in attendance, it.
<v Speaker 3>Was such a great feeling.
<v Speaker 4>Obviously, you know, with all all politics and vaccine and
<v Speaker 4>all that stuff aside, just like as a wrestling fan,
<v Speaker 4>to hear alive, they sounded like a full stadium. Uh,
<v Speaker 4>and you know, they booed the heels for the most
<v Speaker 4>part and cheered the faces. Like I mean, again, probably
<v Speaker 4>a much better booked company. And that's I think pretty objective,
<v Speaker 4>not necessarily subjective, just in general of.
<v Speaker 3>Clear baby faces and clear heel heels.
<v Speaker 4>And there were two matches for the most part that
<v Speaker 4>were not not too distinguishable obviously, but for the most
<v Speaker 4>part you got your your you know, deafening boos and
<v Speaker 4>deafening tears and like it was so refreshing to think, Okay,
<v Speaker 4>maybe maybe fans are just appreciative right now to be
<v Speaker 4>back live, or maybe it's just great storytelling. Again, I
<v Speaker 4>don't know much different than than WW audience because I've
<v Speaker 4>never heard it before. But I'm hoping that the same
<v Speaker 4>thing happens when fans come back in July for w
<v Speaker 4>W two.
<v Speaker 3>It's just, you know, they appreciate the good heel work.
<v Speaker 3>I think there are a couple couple people.
<v Speaker 4>Who might get cheered, like your Bailey's or your or
<v Speaker 4>your we always point out, or your Sammy's aines. But
<v Speaker 4>for the most part, like I don't know, maybe maybe
<v Speaker 4>I'm just saying Roman Reigns is the only really amazingly booked.
<v Speaker 3>Heel in the entire company.
<v Speaker 4>In my opinion, like, I don't I don't like Bobby
<v Speaker 4>l Like, I don't hate Bobby Lashley.
<v Speaker 3>I just think he's annoying at this point.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and oh, Bobby Lashley is another I mean, well,
<v Speaker 1>I guess let's let's get into it. I mean, we
<v Speaker 1>can bounce between Ron SmackDown here, but another big thing,
<v Speaker 1>Bobby Lashley that's going on on Monday net Raw still
<v Speaker 1>WW champion and we have MVP at the head of
<v Speaker 1>that and apparently purchasing women for him on a weekly basis,
<v Speaker 1>which I have. I mean, like, it's kind of funny,
<v Speaker 1>but it also in my eyes again, I'm not offended
<v Speaker 1>or anything. It's just kind of it's disappointing for me
<v Speaker 1>because I get it. I understand the image of what
<v Speaker 1>I'm supposed to not like about Bobby that he has
<v Speaker 1>all these pretty women and most guys don't have Like
<v Speaker 1>I get that, But at the same time, it is
<v Speaker 1>a little bit regressive for the women in WWE. I
<v Speaker 1>don't know, That's how I felt about it. I understand
<v Speaker 1>they're not real performers in the company. They're not actually
<v Speaker 1>you know, the wrestlers. But there's still women, and there
<v Speaker 1>are women on the show who are performing at a
<v Speaker 1>high level, and yet you're bringing in these essentially, you know,
<v Speaker 1>a twenty twenty one version of the Hoe Train with
<v Speaker 1>the Godfather, and I just, I don't know. It doesn't
<v Speaker 1>give me a good feeling about, you know, continuing to
<v Speaker 1>progress the women forward when you're essentially purchasing these women,
<v Speaker 1>these local women to just be all over Bobby Lashley
<v Speaker 1>for you know, the entirety of the show. Do you
<v Speaker 1>feel the same way orm I overblowing this.
<v Speaker 3>No, you're not overblowing it at all.
<v Speaker 4>I mean talk about like regression in WW for the
<v Speaker 4>women in it as a general topicause something.
<v Speaker 3>We could probably talk about for two hours, or at
<v Speaker 3>least I could. But just leaving it on this, I'm
<v Speaker 3>with you.
<v Speaker 4>I think it's so I don't know, here's my thing,
<v Speaker 4>and this is the way I always try to pose it.
<v Speaker 4>Could you imagine who's your I can't even who's your
<v Speaker 4>freaking champion? Could you imagine Bianca or not? But I
<v Speaker 4>guess vere you Ripley. Could you imagine Rieo Ripley coming
<v Speaker 4>down with a bunch of really like good looking male strippers,
<v Speaker 4>right and like that being her heel like you know
<v Speaker 4>what I mean, like if you flip it on the
<v Speaker 4>other like that would never happen ever happened. And I
<v Speaker 4>think that's the best way to look at it. It's
<v Speaker 4>just like you said, it's just regression. I think it's John.
<v Speaker 4>It has like John Laura and I just written all
<v Speaker 4>over it. It's and it and.
<v Speaker 3>It's like weird.
<v Speaker 4>I feel uncomfortable when I'm like watching, I'm like, why
<v Speaker 4>am I watching?
<v Speaker 3>In the vip lot.
<v Speaker 4>It just it's like I don't know if it's and
<v Speaker 4>it's they're not good enough actors where it it looks like,
<v Speaker 4>I don't know, it's like this weird line of it's
<v Speaker 4>just awkward.
<v Speaker 3>I almost have secondhand embarrassment.
<v Speaker 1>That's a good point to bring up there. On top
<v Speaker 1>of it, they're terrible actresses, right like they are. They're
<v Speaker 1>they overact everything. They scream for things that no one
<v Speaker 1>would have scream for. I mean, when Bobby lash, I
<v Speaker 1>think was it last week, not this, not this past week?
<v Speaker 1>With the week before got attacked in the ring by
<v Speaker 1>Drew McIntyre and they're screaming their faces off like someone
<v Speaker 1>just got shot. I'm like, you know, you're in a
<v Speaker 1>wrestling ring, right, and these women are screaming and screaming
<v Speaker 1>and screaming like someone had just been killed in front
<v Speaker 1>of them. It's just it is. There are terrible actresses
<v Speaker 1>on top of it, and then they're just sexualizing the women.
<v Speaker 1>And look, I've said this before, I'm a straight guy,
<v Speaker 1>but I'm also married. I'm not blind. At the same time,
<v Speaker 1>I still don't want this on my show because it
<v Speaker 1>takes away from what the women have been able to
<v Speaker 1>do over the last five to six years with the
<v Speaker 1>women's evolution revolution, and it's just doesn't sit well with me.
<v Speaker 1>And you're right, it is embarrassing at times, but I
<v Speaker 1>also understand what they're trying to do. I just think
<v Speaker 1>that there is a net loss from this particular way
<v Speaker 1>of doing it because you're pulling down the women while
<v Speaker 1>trying to elevate Bobby Lashley to that heat like gaining
<v Speaker 1>heat level. But to me, it is so overshadowed by
<v Speaker 1>your sexualizing women again for the sake of what trying
<v Speaker 1>to elevate Bobby Lashley as a heel. To me, it's
<v Speaker 1>still a net loss. So any your thoughts on that,
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's just like you said, it's a two
<v Speaker 1>hour topic for sure. Yeah, but okay, But Bobby Lashley
<v Speaker 1>in general, though as far as we look at his storylines,
<v Speaker 1>Drew McIntyre is his next opponent as they continue to
<v Speaker 1>just overuse Drew McIntyre in the WW title picture. Do
<v Speaker 1>you think that somehow we will have a triple threat
<v Speaker 1>for the WW Championship or is it going to be
<v Speaker 1>straight up Drew versus Bobby Lashley at Helena Sell again?
<v Speaker 4>I think I think Kofi Kingston was just a placeholder
<v Speaker 4>and something an attempted something interesting.
<v Speaker 3>Let me put it that way.
<v Speaker 4>You know, we got the same match twice in two weeks,
<v Speaker 4>but a good match nonetheless.
<v Speaker 3>But I think, yeah, I think.
<v Speaker 4>You've got Bobby Lashley, Drew McIntyre and Helen and Sell.
<v Speaker 4>There will be some kind of you know, shenanigans. He
<v Speaker 4>obviously won't win clean. If he wins clean, I'll stay corrected, obviously.
<v Speaker 3>And then I'm.
<v Speaker 4>Thinking, you know, SummerSlam is coming up. I don't know
<v Speaker 4>what money in the bank. You'll probably just have them
<v Speaker 4>run it back again at money in the bank. But
<v Speaker 4>I think SummerSlam comes around and I have a feeling
<v Speaker 4>ww's going to really make an attempt to make it
<v Speaker 4>a big show. I think you've got brock Lesner returning
<v Speaker 4>maybe at John Cena, and again you've got Roman Reigns
<v Speaker 4>over there on the other side, so you could pin
<v Speaker 4>either of those guys against Roman Reigns and it's a
<v Speaker 4>way more exciting match. But I think whoever is facing
<v Speaker 4>Bobby Lashley at SummerSlam is going to be a big name,
<v Speaker 4>and hopefully they stop, you know, using Drew McIntyre every
<v Speaker 4>single show.
<v Speaker 3>He comes to I don't know about you.
<v Speaker 4>He comes out and now he comes off and it's
<v Speaker 4>obviously the scripting of some sense. I hope at least
<v Speaker 4>he comes off like a like a annoying guy.
<v Speaker 3>At this point, it's.
<v Speaker 4>Like, Okay, you lost, you know what I mean, And
<v Speaker 4>now you're just continually trying.
<v Speaker 3>To jump the line.
<v Speaker 4>Why do you get all these opportunities because you are
<v Speaker 4>a former champion. Well there's a bunch of other like
<v Speaker 4>Jeff Hardy, then you should be getting all these opportunities.
<v Speaker 4>And then not to mention like it's the little comments
<v Speaker 4>I don't and the only one that's popping of mind.
<v Speaker 4>I know there have been more and more recently, but
<v Speaker 4>remember a while ago. He came out and he was
<v Speaker 4>talking about like he like put down Uber drivers and
<v Speaker 4>stuff like that, and I was like, that's such a
<v Speaker 4>like a Again, I can't curse here, but just like
<v Speaker 4>a jerk move. I guess for your baby face to
<v Speaker 4>be doing like I'm supposed to relate to you, this
<v Speaker 4>is like we are so far gone from like a
<v Speaker 4>stone called Steve Austin.
<v Speaker 3>Who's like the bluue collar guy.
<v Speaker 4>I don't relate to the guy who's like putting down
<v Speaker 4>Uber eats drivers.
<v Speaker 3>This is something like Uber eats was the best thing
<v Speaker 3>in the pandemic.
<v Speaker 4>You know, Uber eats and Uber did a lot more
<v Speaker 4>than Drew McIntyre probably did for people during the pandemic.
<v Speaker 4>It just comes off like a jerk and I and
<v Speaker 4>I think it's all you know, booking's fault. Wwe doesn't
<v Speaker 4>know how to book a baby face. Look at Rick
<v Speaker 4>Andochet and a Burg of Korea over that. So I
<v Speaker 4>don't know how you feel about Drew McIntyre. I'm sour
<v Speaker 4>on him, I really am. I think he's a great
<v Speaker 4>He was great and in the beginning I missed like
<v Speaker 4>the way he was at the Rumble that was great,
<v Speaker 4>but it's just overexposure, bad scripting, and the lack of
<v Speaker 4>being able to like see real good human qualities and
<v Speaker 4>someone that makes it so they can't book a babyface anymore.
<v Speaker 1>And I think that definitely speaks to the larger issue.
<v Speaker 1>And I would over this to several times on my show,
<v Speaker 1>is just lack of babyfaces, a lack of big babyface stars.
<v Speaker 1>I mean there's Drew, and who's the next, Like it's
<v Speaker 1>Drew McIntyre and then everyone else. I mean you talk
<v Speaker 1>about it going off a cliff after Drew McIntyre, which
<v Speaker 1>is why they don't know where to go. They just
<v Speaker 1>keep pounding Drew McIntyre into championship matches. Which I will
<v Speaker 1>say this, if it was in front of live fans
<v Speaker 1>right now, I think people would start to turn on Drew.
<v Speaker 1>If this was in front of live fans, I think
<v Speaker 1>organically people would be like, Okay, like we've had enough.
<v Speaker 1>I appreciate the effort you've put in and all the
<v Speaker 1>value you've added to the championship and that you know
<v Speaker 1>people should be here to chase the belt. Oftentimes it
<v Speaker 1>doesn't feel like people are. Drew has done a great job,
<v Speaker 1>but he's over stated. He's welcome to the title picture
<v Speaker 1>by about eight months. I mean, it has been way
<v Speaker 1>way too long, not to his own fault. Like I'm
<v Speaker 1>not blaming Drew, this is I think creative and Vince
<v Speaker 1>and their lack of ability to create big stars stars
<v Speaker 1>will always be the reason people tune in to sports.
<v Speaker 1>I think stars are what draw the real money. Stars
<v Speaker 1>are what draw the ratings. And when you lose your
<v Speaker 1>ability to create stars heal or face, you start to
<v Speaker 1>lose control and you start to just pound that one
<v Speaker 1>person who is a star into the same situation, which
<v Speaker 1>eventually there's a negative return. And you're starting to see
<v Speaker 1>that with Drew where people are just sick, including myself
<v Speaker 1>and I like you mentioned though, with the rumble where
<v Speaker 1>he eliminated brock Leuzer and the pop he got was,
<v Speaker 1>I mean it was stone cold, like it was unbelievable
<v Speaker 1>to pop he got that night, and he won the championship,
<v Speaker 1>and he he was the leader of the pandemic era
<v Speaker 1>when it was in the Thunderdome eerily quiet. I mean great,
<v Speaker 1>and I respect the guy, but man, oh man, he
<v Speaker 1>is being fed to the wolves right now. And I
<v Speaker 1>think that if the fans were there, oh boy, it
<v Speaker 1>would be it would be bad. I think that they
<v Speaker 1>would really start to boo Drew McIntyre and they can't
<v Speaker 1>afford that right now. And they're not gonna turn them
<v Speaker 1>heel because they have nowhere to go. When you try
<v Speaker 1>to recreate an organic movement of KOFE mania, you know
<v Speaker 1>that they have nowhere else to go. They don't know
<v Speaker 1>where else to go. It feels like they are just
<v Speaker 1>they're going to the well and they're pulling up nothing like.
<v Speaker 1>It's just constantly this just guys, we don't know where
<v Speaker 1>to go. So yeah, I think, but this better be
<v Speaker 1>the final time, and hopefully it is, because if it's
<v Speaker 1>another Drew Bobby main event when it comes to the
<v Speaker 1>live fans in July, I mean, you're gonna turn Drew
<v Speaker 1>mcintarre heel and there's no one for him to face
<v Speaker 1>because the top baby face on RAW.
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, I don't.
<v Speaker 4>I don't think like like having to have these guys
<v Speaker 4>wrestle or whatever three times minimum has to be like normalized.
<v Speaker 3>I don't.
<v Speaker 4>I feel like and it has become that obviously, But
<v Speaker 4>I just I mean, when I and if you're obviously
<v Speaker 4>if you have any other comments on this, happy to
<v Speaker 4>circle back. But you go to the women's division on
<v Speaker 4>raw too, there's no babyface. Your baby face is is
<v Speaker 4>Nikki Cross. I don't know your thoughts. I'll throw you
<v Speaker 4>if you are all with Bobby and you will.
<v Speaker 3>Throw to you.
<v Speaker 4>I'm you know, I'm I'm like a Charlotte Flair fan,
<v Speaker 4>you know.
<v Speaker 3>But Rhea Ripley too.
<v Speaker 4>I really they could not have booked this worse for
<v Speaker 4>Rhea Ripley. I almost would rather not win the championship.
<v Speaker 3>This is so bad.
<v Speaker 4>So I don't know what your thoughts on the Raw
<v Speaker 4>women's division are, but minor disappointment.
<v Speaker 1>It's a mess. Now I'm trying to gather my thoughts
<v Speaker 1>because there's there's a lot on this division that's just
<v Speaker 1>I mean, Oscar holding the Row Women's Championship. We've been there.
<v Speaker 1>We've talked about how disastrous that was and how she
<v Speaker 1>was left off TV for like six months. I mean,
<v Speaker 1>it was just terrible her run and there's no excuse
<v Speaker 1>for it. And Rha Ripley is while she's there and
<v Speaker 1>people are talking about the rob Women's Championship, it doesn't
<v Speaker 1>feel right with her as champion.
<v Speaker 3>Now.
<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying she's not deserving It's just that how
<v Speaker 1>they've presented her has been really bad because I don't
<v Speaker 1>know what to feel for her. I haven't been told
<v Speaker 1>how to feel. And the idea is it should be
<v Speaker 1>WWE's job to tell us how we should feel about
<v Speaker 1>a character. We should either want them to succeed or
<v Speaker 1>want them to fail. It really is that simple. I'm
<v Speaker 1>not insulting anyone's intelligence. It's just there's a protagonist and
<v Speaker 1>there's an antagonist or antagonists. It's true for every TV show,
<v Speaker 1>every movie. You want to be able to root for
<v Speaker 1>somebody and see that the bad guy or gal get
<v Speaker 1>their ass whooped. That's it. It's really that simple. And
<v Speaker 1>with Rhea Ripley, I don't know what to feel for
<v Speaker 1>her because on a weekly basis, she's kind of flip flopping.
<v Speaker 1>She's a tweener. Same with Charlotte. I know that they're
<v Speaker 1>booked her as a heel, but yet I don't know
<v Speaker 1>why I'm supposed to hate her because she is. She's
<v Speaker 1>doing a great job on the MIC, in the ring,
<v Speaker 1>she's changed up her look. She's not doing anything to
<v Speaker 1>me that's reprehensible other than telling us to bow down
<v Speaker 1>to her, like, oh okay, you've been telling us that
<v Speaker 1>for years. That doesn't generate heat anymore. That's long gone.
<v Speaker 1>So I don't know what to feel for Rhea at all.
<v Speaker 1>She feels like she's in between, and I don't want
<v Speaker 1>to hear that. While there's shades of gray in real life,
<v Speaker 1>no no, no no. I understand that there's good and
<v Speaker 1>bad in everybody, But I don't want to feel indifference
<v Speaker 1>for a character you're supposed to tell me I should
<v Speaker 1>be emotionally invested in. Emotional investment doesn't come with gray.
<v Speaker 1>It doesn't come that way. You need to be one
<v Speaker 1>or the other. I don't want to hear the in
<v Speaker 1>between crap. That is lazy, creative that, oh you know, creative,
<v Speaker 1>sha mimic life. No, no, no, no, you're muddying the waters.
<v Speaker 1>But Nicky Cross right now is the only true baby face,
<v Speaker 1>and she won her beat the clock challenges out of
<v Speaker 1>luck and out of avoidance. By the way she beat
<v Speaker 1>it out of avoidance, Rhea Ripley this week tells her
<v Speaker 1>that Niki Cross she earned. Niki Cross earned her respect.
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, how how did she earn your respect by
<v Speaker 1>trying to avoid you for two minutes? I don't understand
<v Speaker 1>how that's supposed to be earning someone's Is your bar
<v Speaker 1>that low for somebody to be able to earn your respect?
<v Speaker 1>It made no sense. Nikki though, is a baby face.
<v Speaker 1>She's kind of the lovable underdog right now. But boy,
<v Speaker 1>oh boy, this is a mess your turn.
<v Speaker 3>No, I mean, you feel like you covered it at all.
<v Speaker 4>I guess the only question I'll ask you to, and
<v Speaker 4>I'll give you my answers, is who's next after you.
<v Speaker 3>Run Rea Ripley Charlotte Flair six times? You know what
<v Speaker 3>I mean? Who do you go to after that?
<v Speaker 4>The only guests that I have is you have an
<v Speaker 4>NXC call up, come up, obviously, But poor whoever that
<v Speaker 4>is who has to come and endure this, right, But
<v Speaker 4>like you know, your your baby faces are the ones
<v Speaker 4>who run up round the ring for two minutes and
<v Speaker 4>call that a victory and act like they just won
<v Speaker 4>the championship title.
<v Speaker 3>And then you've.
<v Speaker 4>Got great scripting like, oh, Charlotte, you you know I'm
<v Speaker 4>gonna go to hell? Well you can go to hell
<v Speaker 4>like real really awful stuff, like I haven't seen a
<v Speaker 4>really bad opening segment like this week. The only bright
<v Speaker 4>spot from you is John Morrison because I'm putting the
<v Speaker 4>bar really low, and I think he's got little one
<v Speaker 4>liners that are funny.
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, I just like, who's next? I think Oscar deserved.
<v Speaker 4>I think Oscar is probably on your next release list,
<v Speaker 4>if not asking for it hopefully. Uh And yeah, I
<v Speaker 4>just like, I don't know if they need to switch
<v Speaker 4>up in the brands what they do, but like, realistically,
<v Speaker 4>you have seven women on SmackDown on your active roster,
<v Speaker 4>and two of them are the women's tag team champions,
<v Speaker 4>so that's a little bit tricky.
<v Speaker 3>Who's like, who's next?
<v Speaker 4>Once Bailey's done with Bianca and Charlotte's done with Rhea,
<v Speaker 4>or Ria's done with Charlotte, Like, where do you go
<v Speaker 4>from here? That's the problem I think is there's no booking.
<v Speaker 3>And like I.
<v Speaker 4>Said, their idea of a baby face is the person
<v Speaker 4>who runs around the ring and avoids a match for
<v Speaker 4>two minutes.
<v Speaker 3>Also a heel versus a heel match. It doesn't work.
<v Speaker 4>It's I could do a baby face as a baby
<v Speaker 4>face match, you know, and then you have the crowd
<v Speaker 4>usually split or whatever it is. But no one cares
<v Speaker 4>about a heelver's a heel match because you don't like
<v Speaker 4>either person, especially when they're so poorly booked like this,
<v Speaker 4>And I.
<v Speaker 1>Was looking as you were talking. I'm looking at the
<v Speaker 1>rob women's roster right now. The only people that are
<v Speaker 1>even relevant that could be considered in the running for
<v Speaker 1>a rob Women's championship. I mean Alexa Bliss whenever she
<v Speaker 1>decides to stop sitting on her swing backstage, which is
<v Speaker 1>you know, look, we could get into that next two
<v Speaker 1>as we're on the women here, but Alexa Bliss is
<v Speaker 1>one you have. Let's see, NICKI I mean we just
<v Speaker 1>talking Tonicky Cross, Shannon Basler, maybe Shannon Basler, as it
<v Speaker 1>looks like Alexa Bliss and Shana are going to be
<v Speaker 1>getting into a program here after you know, Alexa Bliss
<v Speaker 1>is finally doing something after just it's been two months
<v Speaker 1>since WrestleMania, and I thought immediately she would get into
<v Speaker 1>a program, and instead she just sits backstage with a
<v Speaker 1>haunted doll and makes you know, scary voices. And I
<v Speaker 1>love Alexa Bliss, you know, I think she's been an
<v Speaker 1>unsung hero in twenty twenty and twenty twenty one. But
<v Speaker 1>you know, I think her not actually wrestling and getting
<v Speaker 1>in a program has damaged her because people are like
<v Speaker 1>can we just get past the hocus pocus magic crap
<v Speaker 1>and actually get you into a program. I think that
<v Speaker 1>has hurt her too, And I think as hot as
<v Speaker 1>she was with the Fiend, she has cooled off big
<v Speaker 1>time because she's just sitting there every week with raccoon
<v Speaker 1>makeup and we're all supposed to be scared. Now it's
<v Speaker 1>really I think her, but Shanna Basler is a bright
<v Speaker 1>spot because we're getting her the hell away from Naia
<v Speaker 1>Jacks and putting Shana where she freaking belongs as a
<v Speaker 1>single star, breaking arms hopefully. So I guess what do
<v Speaker 1>you think about that? Yeah?
<v Speaker 4>I think I mean, if we're going WWE logic, you
<v Speaker 4>probably have Lily versus Shana Basler at Shana Basler loses
<v Speaker 4>to a doll because you know, they've had her lose
<v Speaker 4>to everybody else, so she will lose to an inanimate object,
<v Speaker 4>and then, coming off the momentum of that, will probably challenge.
<v Speaker 3>For the title.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's I could I bet my solid dollar on
<v Speaker 4>that that that's probably what's gonna happen next.
<v Speaker 3>I know you have talked a lot about liking Alexible.
<v Speaker 3>I am so over spooky crap, Like I'm done yep. Yeah,
<v Speaker 3>I think.
<v Speaker 4>I honestly think Bray Wyatt's probably on your next release
<v Speaker 4>list too. I mean again, an r KO in six minutes.
<v Speaker 4>But being lit on fire, we're not even gonna go
<v Speaker 4>down there.
<v Speaker 1>Don't don't do it, you're opening the door. I'm gonna
<v Speaker 1>pretend you didn't say it.
<v Speaker 4>I go ahead, yes, But but but the women the
<v Speaker 4>women's roster obviously something way more interesting Nya Jacks, maybe
<v Speaker 4>because they seem to really be protecting Naya Jacks at
<v Speaker 4>Shanna Basler's expense, which is so sad. I I I don't.
<v Speaker 4>I think Shena Basler is beyond recall at this point
<v Speaker 4>because I have put hope in Shanna Basler every single week,
<v Speaker 4>and it's been it's literally like it's been a conscious
<v Speaker 4>effort to make me not.
<v Speaker 3>Be invested in Shana Basler.
<v Speaker 4>They have made it almost feels like they're bearing her
<v Speaker 4>on purpose for some reason. Uh, like this is the
<v Speaker 4>true burial Again.
<v Speaker 3>I really believe she's gonna lose to a doll.
<v Speaker 4>But yeah, I don't, I don't I have I don't know,
<v Speaker 4>I have no more inspiration with any of This is
<v Speaker 4>my problem with the women's wrestling in the past year
<v Speaker 4>is probably taking the biggest hit out of all this.
<v Speaker 4>I know, obviously there's been a lot of a lot
<v Speaker 4>of stuff released. I think just in general, though, the
<v Speaker 4>women's wrestling in WW besides NXT obviously has taken the
<v Speaker 4>biggest hit. And I think it started all with those
<v Speaker 4>tag team titles and pairing everybody together for no reason.
<v Speaker 4>I mean, Naomi just lost her tag team partner, and
<v Speaker 4>I mean, weren't they just dominating the division? So that's
<v Speaker 4>a big that's a big loss.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I got nothing Naomi.
<v Speaker 4>Maybe they tend to just pull someone out of the
<v Speaker 4>woodworks like Nikki Cross obviously, but then they don't know
<v Speaker 4>how to book them.
<v Speaker 3>So I don't know.
<v Speaker 4>I'm saying we got six months of Charlotte Flavis as
<v Speaker 4>Ria Ripley probably and then maybe somebody from NXT is
<v Speaker 4>going to be called up. But I have no faith
<v Speaker 4>in any of these women on the roster that I
<v Speaker 4>just no one's credible anymore.
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's because they fifty to fifty book a
<v Speaker 1>lot of the time. I mean, Charlotte wins then loses,
<v Speaker 1>and I understand two minute, you know, time limits are
<v Speaker 1>They're not really a loss.
<v Speaker 4>They did that with Asta, do you They did the
<v Speaker 4>match one week and Charlotte lost Oscar one like a
<v Speaker 4>twenty minute match, and Oscar wins by a roll up,
<v Speaker 4>And the next.
<v Speaker 3>Week they did the exact same match and then Charlotte won,
<v Speaker 3>and then Charlotte won a title opportunity.
<v Speaker 1>No, that's exactly what I'm talking about, right they This
<v Speaker 1>is exactly what I'm talking about. Is there? I don't
<v Speaker 1>know why that they are so fearful of pushing somebody
<v Speaker 1>with the with the hope and the belief that they
<v Speaker 1>can achieve what the goal is. Like, the fifty to
<v Speaker 1>fifty booking is the worst thing you could do for anyone.
<v Speaker 1>I'd rather have someone go on a twenty match losing
<v Speaker 1>streak than do ten and ten because what am I like?
<v Speaker 1>I just look at it and go, uh, I don't know,
<v Speaker 1>because I don't know if they're gonna win or lose.
<v Speaker 1>They're not an underdog, they're not a you know, a favorite.
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what to think. Fifty to fifty booking
<v Speaker 1>is the death of a wrestling character. It just is.
<v Speaker 1>And so, yeah, you're right. I know it's a small
<v Speaker 1>sample size what they did with Charlotte, but Charlotte was
<v Speaker 1>blazing hot coming back. I mean, I loved everything that
<v Speaker 1>she said about you know, really just kind of breaking
<v Speaker 1>the fourth wall there, doing a kind of a work
<v Speaker 1>to shoot promo that I think had a lot of
<v Speaker 1>truth in it, and you know, said basically that she's
<v Speaker 1>the opportunity. She did her hair different, She's wearing Kerala
<v Speaker 1>Deville gear now, she her demeanor is different, the way
<v Speaker 1>she delivers promo. It's like we got a different Charlotte
<v Speaker 1>Flair and upgraded Charlotte Flair, and I said, this is awesome.
<v Speaker 1>You know, the women's vision couldn't have needed this more.
<v Speaker 1>And they're just now they Yeah, she's kind of trading
<v Speaker 1>wins and losses, and you're right. She's probably gonna be
<v Speaker 1>with Shanna Basler until the end of time, I would think,
<v Speaker 1>and probably Alexa Bliss is the next one, because I
<v Speaker 1>for sure see them investing their their time into a
<v Speaker 1>hocus pocus character rather than a legitimate, credentialed MMA style
<v Speaker 1>of Shanna Basler. I mean, we saw what they did
<v Speaker 1>with Shana and Becky Lynch at last year's WrestleMania, when
<v Speaker 1>Becky just would not let go of that championship and
<v Speaker 1>the fans were ready for it, and we're like, Okay,
<v Speaker 1>been a good run. It's time for Shana and she
<v Speaker 1>loses to Shane bay Or she won, Shana Basler loses
<v Speaker 1>and we're like, what the hell? You know that it's
<v Speaker 1>too bad that wasn't in front of an audience. So
<v Speaker 1>on the other side, you have SmackDown this past week,
<v Speaker 1>Lived Morgan on her own, which it was great, scenes
<v Speaker 1>great that she actually got a promo of sorts. But
<v Speaker 1>then you have Carmela out there sexualizing herself by the
<v Speaker 1>way he is talking about sexualizing of the women again,
<v Speaker 1>going back to like you know, Diva's era, and you know,
<v Speaker 1>and further back, Carmelo's entrance has turned into a stripper
<v Speaker 1>routine with her silhouette of dancing, and we're supposed to
<v Speaker 1>be talking looking at how hot she is. I guess
<v Speaker 1>that's her gimmick now. I mean she literally said on
<v Speaker 1>the most beautiful one, like, I don't care that doesn't
<v Speaker 1>generate heat from me. I mean that just is such
<v Speaker 1>to me, a superficial, lazy way to book a talent
<v Speaker 1>like Carmelo, who's really good on the mic, and it's good,
<v Speaker 1>it's very good at the ring. In the ring sometimes
<v Speaker 1>and they've taken her and just gone, we're gonna make
<v Speaker 1>it all about your body. That's all they've done. And
<v Speaker 1>I'm like why, and she loses to Live Morgan. I
<v Speaker 1>thought Live Morgan would actually, you know, have an upset
<v Speaker 1>win and start her on some kind of run, and no,
<v Speaker 1>Carmelo wins. I'm like, can you make sense of that?
<v Speaker 3>No? Yeah, that would be logical. No.
<v Speaker 4>I mean we've been begging for women's storylines that aren't,
<v Speaker 4>you know, or revolved around the title for a while,
<v Speaker 4>because that's how you elevate women and then whoever and
<v Speaker 4>men too, and then whoever wins that feud maybe can
<v Speaker 4>go on for the title picture, right, or but then
<v Speaker 4>again you fifty to fifty bill Carmela because she lost
<v Speaker 4>last week, but then she wins this week. And not
<v Speaker 4>to mention, you have Live Morgan who's lost in the
<v Speaker 4>past two years. Her two best friends both been released.
<v Speaker 4>I think the only reason Live Morgan isn't released because
<v Speaker 4>she has a giant internet following because she's awesome, and
<v Speaker 4>so you book her in a match with the whole
<v Speaker 4>It's so irritating.
<v Speaker 3>This is my probably my least favorite part of the
<v Speaker 3>whole week.
<v Speaker 4>The whole premise of the match is I'm more beautiful
<v Speaker 4>than you while I'm gonna you don't know, you're only
<v Speaker 4>a solid evan wait till you get my boot in
<v Speaker 4>your face and then you'll be really beautiful. It's like
<v Speaker 4>we're really in, like twoy ten era. And then she
<v Speaker 4>loses this, she loses It's it couldn't be more of
<v Speaker 4>a you don't matter, stay in line, you know, like
<v Speaker 4>vibe that I get. It's just again after Bailey, who
<v Speaker 4>again is another person that I think I could wake
<v Speaker 4>up next week and find out she was released after
<v Speaker 4>that whole title thing with Bianca bell Air, and I
<v Speaker 4>wouldn't I be upset, but I wouldn't be surprised. Everybody
<v Speaker 4>is expendable, you know. And like I said, you've got
<v Speaker 4>seven seven women on the roster, so not including the
<v Speaker 4>women's tag team champions. The only other two uh or
<v Speaker 4>am I making this up? The other two women are?
<v Speaker 3>Are I miss? My math is wrong.
<v Speaker 4>Because I think that's the sick total six totals, So
<v Speaker 4>maybe you can help me remember who I'm missing. But
<v Speaker 4>you have Naomi and not Naomi, excuse me? And Italian
<v Speaker 4>to Mena, who are the tag champions then you've got
<v Speaker 4>Bianca and Bailey here are in the feud, and then
<v Speaker 4>you oh Sasha Banks, and then you have uh Lana
<v Speaker 4>and not Lana, what's her name? Live Morgan and Carmela
<v Speaker 4>who are doing whatever they're doing. I guarantee again next
<v Speaker 4>week we'll probably have the same match and Live Morgan
<v Speaker 4>will win.
<v Speaker 3>And who's like, what.
<v Speaker 4>Do you how do you elevate a division back? And
<v Speaker 4>if we went and go a couple of years back,
<v Speaker 4>you have an entire pay per view dedicated to the women.
<v Speaker 3>That's how much the women had going on.
<v Speaker 4>And now with like bangers of matches.
<v Speaker 3>By the way, now you.
<v Speaker 4>Have seven women on the roster and it's like, only
<v Speaker 4>twice since the beginning of the year have they gotten
<v Speaker 4>more than ten minutes of.
<v Speaker 3>Airtime on a two hour show. Disappointing. It's just really disappointing.
<v Speaker 4>I'm someone who's like, I just I really love women's
<v Speaker 4>wrestling because it's been so cool to see, yeah, like
<v Speaker 4>the women can do what the men do, and it's
<v Speaker 4>been such a cool movement to be behind. And there's
<v Speaker 4>been a lot of badass women in the division two
<v Speaker 4>and now here we are, and again everybody's expendable, and
<v Speaker 4>the wins and losses don't matter, and the titles don't
<v Speaker 4>matter if wins and losses don't matter, and then like again,
<v Speaker 4>just there's.
<v Speaker 3>No you can't fantasy book anything. You know.
<v Speaker 4>That's when you know you're at a stand up. There's
<v Speaker 4>no I can you fantasy book any women's matches, you know,
<v Speaker 4>maybe besides Alexa Bliss, you know black Goo match, you know,
<v Speaker 4>black Goo and a shark cage or something for coming up.
<v Speaker 3>Like, there's just nothing to know, nothing to sink your
<v Speaker 3>teeth into.
<v Speaker 4>And it's really, you know, depressing, because everything else on
<v Speaker 4>SmackDown is pretty good.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, everything on SmackDown it is clearly the better show.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's not even it's not even close that
<v Speaker 1>SmackDown's better show. And yes, a lot of it has
<v Speaker 1>to do with Roman Reigns being just brilliant and from
<v Speaker 1>week to week. I really I haven't seen an off
<v Speaker 1>week from Roman since he turned heel last August. It's
<v Speaker 1>nearly been a year, and I'm like, every week is awesome,
<v Speaker 1>which is impossible in wrestling. They really haven't missed a step.
<v Speaker 1>But as far as the women go, I'm trying to
<v Speaker 1>think of a fantasy matchup even on either roster, and
<v Speaker 1>Sasha Banks is Mia. I mean, what would help, I
<v Speaker 1>think is if Sonya Deville got out of her tie
<v Speaker 1>and her inexplicable official role and maybe she's still recovering
<v Speaker 1>from what happened with the whole Stalker. I mean, we
<v Speaker 1>know the story, you know, maybe she's still mentally trying
<v Speaker 1>to get herself back and whatever it may be, I
<v Speaker 1>would say Adam Pierce is fine on his own. I
<v Speaker 1>want to see Sonya Deville in a wrestling role. When
<v Speaker 1>she did her breakout performance against her best friend who
<v Speaker 1>was at Mandy Rose and she was on the mic
<v Speaker 1>tearing it up, I'm like, where the hell have you been?
<v Speaker 1>And I was it was awesome and she was just
<v Speaker 1>absolutely destroying Mandy Rose on the mic and physically, and
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, this is great. And then, of course, you know,
<v Speaker 1>things happen. She disappears, comes back in an official role.
<v Speaker 1>But I think Sonya Deville coming back in a wrestling
<v Speaker 1>role would be a big deal. Ember Moon, wherever she's
<v Speaker 1>you know, hiding these days, have her come back. She's
<v Speaker 1>an actual part of the Blue Brand here, so why.
<v Speaker 3>Where is she is?
<v Speaker 4>She?
<v Speaker 1>NXT?
<v Speaker 3>She went back Down.
<v Speaker 1>It says she's still part of SmackDown.
<v Speaker 3>Weird.
<v Speaker 4>She she is probably rack Kel Gonzalez is the next
<v Speaker 4>challenger at a takeover coming up, takeover in your house?
<v Speaker 1>All right, well there's been no explanation as to why
<v Speaker 1>they moved her again. Okay, well, then bring in some
<v Speaker 1>NXT talent or I don't know, do some kind of
<v Speaker 1>shake up. However, if you're gonna do a shake up,
<v Speaker 1>then are we just going to do trades or are
<v Speaker 1>we going to do a full draft early? I don't
<v Speaker 1>know what is the answer here bringing in new talent
<v Speaker 1>or is it big trades? What? What is the answer
<v Speaker 1>here to freshen up the women's division on both ends?
<v Speaker 3>I'll give you the answer, Matt.
<v Speaker 4>It's Sonya Deville versus Adam Pierce two at a three
<v Speaker 4>falls match?
<v Speaker 1>Oh god, please yeah? Maybe yeah, you're you're gonna kill
<v Speaker 1>I mean, maybe Reginalds can be the referee? Is that
<v Speaker 1>what you're as special get?
<v Speaker 4>Reginald is in a shark cage above the ring?
<v Speaker 1>Oh god, didn't?
<v Speaker 3>Sorry?
<v Speaker 1>I think ercho.
<v Speaker 4>Actually I think yeah, yes exactly, I think they I
<v Speaker 4>remember that that was actually not a bad match.
<v Speaker 3>I think they I think they bring up women from NXT.
<v Speaker 4>Uh, and then no one ever goes down to NXT,
<v Speaker 4>which would be so beneficial. You think about, like, I know,
<v Speaker 4>Charlotte Flair's run wasn't you know, wasn't world renowned in NXT.
<v Speaker 3>But like if you threw like Bailey back.
<v Speaker 4>Down in n XT or a Sasha Banks back down
<v Speaker 4>in NXT and brought like three women up from NXT,
<v Speaker 4>not only I know you're not.
<v Speaker 3>An evid NXC watcher, just because there's not a lot
<v Speaker 3>of time.
<v Speaker 4>The only reason I managed to do it is so
<v Speaker 4>I can try to give some kind of fair point
<v Speaker 4>of view on the whole week.
<v Speaker 3>But the the.
<v Speaker 4>Like feeling of revitalization and in both divisions would be insane.
<v Speaker 4>All it takes is a little like switch up for
<v Speaker 4>new matchups, and then I don't know, like book somebody
<v Speaker 4>to win three matches in a row rather than win
<v Speaker 4>lose win, you know what I mean?
<v Speaker 3>Uh, I think that's the answer.
<v Speaker 4>I don't know if that ever happened, because the problem
<v Speaker 4>with that is, I don't know if it's less content.
<v Speaker 3>I don't know.
<v Speaker 4>I really like try to put myself in the brains
<v Speaker 4>and some of these bookers or whatever the decisions are
<v Speaker 4>and I can't understand it. I can't be that hard,
<v Speaker 4>you know. I watch a fourteen year old, like teenage
<v Speaker 4>boy for a living. I feel like he could book
<v Speaker 4>Monday Night Raw better than Creative is doing right now.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, I think, unfortunately, I think Vince McMahon's brain
<v Speaker 1>froze at fourteen years old with his sense of humor.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, really, I've always said that where Vince, he's
<v Speaker 1>I mean, regardless of whatever you think of him, you know,
<v Speaker 1>money mongering, you know, just totally egomaniacal sob regardless of
<v Speaker 1>any of that, the guy is the most successful professional
<v Speaker 1>wrestling promoter of all time, one of the most successful
<v Speaker 1>entertainment promotions of all time. And I've always said that
<v Speaker 1>Vince has frozen his sense of humor, specifically at fourteen
<v Speaker 1>years old. I mean the things that he does that
<v Speaker 1>I've heard stories of, like pushing people in a pool
<v Speaker 1>and he finds it so funny, Like you know, if
<v Speaker 1>you're like exactly twelve, thirteen, fourteen, that would be so funny.
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I mean the humor he presents on
<v Speaker 1>his programming sometimes does show that you kind of froze
<v Speaker 1>your humor at a young age. But you know, I
<v Speaker 1>don't know. The answer probably is partly NXT. But the
<v Speaker 1>problem is Vince doesn't view NXT as a legitimate third brand,
<v Speaker 1>and that is a very clear message because it's always
<v Speaker 1>people coming up, not going down. With the exceptions of
<v Speaker 1>like finn Balor and Ember Moon, who is just inexplicably
<v Speaker 1>going back and forth. Finn Balor is a success story
<v Speaker 1>and I think people can learn from that because I
<v Speaker 1>don't think it's a demotion to go to NXT. I
<v Speaker 1>think it's an I mean, even though some talent would
<v Speaker 1>still look at it that way because WWE management looks
<v Speaker 1>at it as the redheaded step child of the three,
<v Speaker 1>I still think it would be beneficial for the company
<v Speaker 1>as a whole to bring some talent back to NXT,
<v Speaker 1>to legitimize it as a third brand, to also elevate
<v Speaker 1>that brand, elevate that talent, and show that yeah, it's
<v Speaker 1>not just a one way street of funneling talent onto
<v Speaker 1>the quote main roster. It should be a cyclical thing
<v Speaker 1>where in drafts you can have guys and gals go
<v Speaker 1>between brands. It's not just between Raw and SmackDown. They
<v Speaker 1>excluded NXT from the Survivor Series this year. I mean it,
<v Speaker 1>it's such a clear message of what they and how
<v Speaker 1>they view NXT and it's a shame. And yes, I
<v Speaker 1>don't watch it other than just kind of highlights here
<v Speaker 1>and there and look at results. But you know, I
<v Speaker 1>think I'm smart enough to know that they shouldn't treat
<v Speaker 1>NXT so poorly in how they perceive the product to fans,
<v Speaker 1>because fans look at it as they present it, and
<v Speaker 1>they shouldn't present it to us as yeah, it's this
<v Speaker 1>other Rastland show.
<v Speaker 3>You know.
<v Speaker 1>Look at our Raw and SmackDown, look at the stars
<v Speaker 1>we have, and it's like, No. What makes NXT great
<v Speaker 1>is the fact that it doesn't feel like the rest
<v Speaker 1>of your entertainment branded wrestling. It actually looks like wrestling,
<v Speaker 1>and the storylines are easier to follow, the characters are
<v Speaker 1>easier to follow. It's a shorter show. Wow. Look, I mean,
<v Speaker 1>it's not a magic formula. So yeah, I'm gonna I'm
<v Speaker 1>gonna get ranting here. But anything else on the women's division,
<v Speaker 1>which is just on either brand, that is no.
<v Speaker 3>I I'll say real quick.
<v Speaker 4>My only guess the NXC when we're talking about a
<v Speaker 4>nexteen call ups is that hopefully.
<v Speaker 3>And you mentioned Finn Balor.
<v Speaker 4>It's my guess is Finn Balor's not long away from
<v Speaker 4>coming back up to the main roster, and I actually
<v Speaker 4>think Vince will probably see more. I don't know if
<v Speaker 4>you can get past the the injury thing that apparently
<v Speaker 4>has some weird hatred towards people can't get injured allegedly.
<v Speaker 3>Choice you can get past that, Yeah, exactly, it's the choice.
<v Speaker 4>But if Vin Ballor comes back up to the you know,
<v Speaker 4>quote unquote main roster, I actually think Vincemigmanna like him
<v Speaker 4>a lot more. Obviously you'd think we want him to
<v Speaker 4>go over to like SmackDown, but probably raw I might
<v Speaker 4>need him more. I just think I think Finn Ballor
<v Speaker 4>is probably your next qute unquote call up after lost
<v Speaker 4>to Carrie and Cross. But and I mean talk about
<v Speaker 4>the revitalization of his character, the Prince and all of
<v Speaker 4>that stuff. But I guess I have to ask you,
<v Speaker 4>is there anything that you are thoroughly enjoying outside of
<v Speaker 4>Roman reigns on WWTV and we could talk about.
<v Speaker 3>So we could be positive for five minutes. Rk bro
<v Speaker 3>I knew you were going to say that. I love that.
<v Speaker 1>Sorry, I mean, there's really there's not a whole lot
<v Speaker 1>to choose from it. I know people like everyone's so negative,
<v Speaker 1>but here's the thing. I'm not going to sit here
<v Speaker 1>and pretend something's great when it's not. I will love
<v Speaker 1>the product forever, I will be a fan forever. But
<v Speaker 1>when it's bad, it's bad. I mean, I have no
<v Speaker 1>ties to WWE. I don't have to say anything. I don't,
<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't feel like it. So but yes,
<v Speaker 1>let's talk about something positive, at least in my mind.
<v Speaker 1>And this may be a negative for you, but it's
<v Speaker 1>RK bro. And it's weird because I was trashing Matt
<v Speaker 1>Riddle and I stand by every word. But I was
<v Speaker 1>trashing him for weeks and weeks and weeks from a
<v Speaker 1>character perspective. In Ring, we all know he's a beast.
<v Speaker 1>Character wise, he was absolutely just unbearable to me. He
<v Speaker 1>was I couldn't stand his character what they done with him?
<v Speaker 1>And Randy Orton comes along and it's just like magic
<v Speaker 1>and he balances out Riddle perfectly. Riddle is like that
<v Speaker 1>annoying younger brother where Randy Orton has to just put
<v Speaker 1>up with. I love the you know, zip your mouth
<v Speaker 1>up and give Randy the key stuff, just those little things,
<v Speaker 1>and they play it off.
<v Speaker 3>Well.
<v Speaker 1>I hate to say it because I was so anti Riddle,
<v Speaker 1>but when Riddle's with Randy, I'm cool with it because
<v Speaker 1>Randy is the perfect foil to Riddle's just outlandish, ridiculous statements.
<v Speaker 1>Because Randy somehow keeps a straight face. He hasn't really
<v Speaker 1>changed character. It's nice to see Randy in his story
<v Speaker 1>that's not about, you know, the fiend trying to actually
<v Speaker 1>kill him because remember a Lexiblis told him that the
<v Speaker 1>legend killer will die at WrestleMania and you know, try
<v Speaker 1>to light him on fire and scaffold it. I mean
<v Speaker 1>like he literally was in fear for his life. So
<v Speaker 1>it's nice that Randy's in something that is much different.
<v Speaker 1>These two have a chemistry that I don't think they
<v Speaker 1>foresaw this working as well as it's working. And it
<v Speaker 1>was one of those well let's see how it goes
<v Speaker 1>and turn the red light on, and they've got chemistry
<v Speaker 1>more than I think anybody thought they would. It's working.
<v Speaker 1>Do I think that an RKO is eventually coming for Riddle? Probably,
<v Speaker 1>but there's also speculation that there could be a turn
<v Speaker 1>by Matt Riddle on Orton, So there's also that, and
<v Speaker 1>you know, I know Randy's not a fan of being
<v Speaker 1>a babyface, but he can still do it. So I'm
<v Speaker 1>enjoying this, I really am.
<v Speaker 3>What about you, Yeah, no, I'm with you.
<v Speaker 4>I think Randy Orton went from one feud where he was,
<v Speaker 4>you know, lighting up the fiend, and now he's lighting
<v Speaker 4>up something else with Matt Riddle.
<v Speaker 3>So I love it. I'm I think this is all
<v Speaker 3>in credit to Matt Riddle and Randy Orton.
<v Speaker 4>I think the performances of what they do, obviously, what
<v Speaker 4>a script did is is what's getting it over because
<v Speaker 4>I think Riddle place, like you said, like the annoying
<v Speaker 4>little brother or just like the overexcitable whatever person really
<v Speaker 4>will and then, like you said, Randy Orton's a perfect
<v Speaker 4>foil for that.
<v Speaker 3>I think. I don't know if you remember.
<v Speaker 4>Seamus and Cizarro for a while when they were the bar,
<v Speaker 4>kind of like before they were officially the bar, or
<v Speaker 4>maybe it was towards the later I forget, or the latter,
<v Speaker 4>but Cizarrow would get cheered, like you know, deafening cheers,
<v Speaker 4>and then Seamus would get booed.
<v Speaker 3>Do you remember they go back and forth about that
<v Speaker 3>like a problem.
<v Speaker 4>Yes, I could see something like kind of a dynamic
<v Speaker 4>of that, not necessarily Randy Orton getting booed, but Randy
<v Speaker 4>Orton getting cheered, and he's still kind of like he's
<v Speaker 4>able to play a heel. I don't know if this
<v Speaker 4>makes sense, but he's able to play heel Randy Orton
<v Speaker 4>to an extent but still get cheered. And maybe you're
<v Speaker 4>an occasional boo for when he does something like you know,
<v Speaker 4>RKO Newday or something like that. But I think it
<v Speaker 4>could be a fun dynamic of like when's the last
<v Speaker 4>time we had like a baby face and a heel
<v Speaker 4>and a tag team at least in w So I
<v Speaker 4>like that. I also want to mention too, I mean
<v Speaker 4>Xavier Woods.
<v Speaker 3>And Matt Riddle. I know that was last week, but
<v Speaker 3>that had no right to be that good.
<v Speaker 4>I've been singing Xavier Woods praises for a while. I
<v Speaker 4>think he's incredible. Obviously, he's wrestled not just in WWE,
<v Speaker 4>but before that too, and he's he's really an incredible talent,
<v Speaker 4>and he's you know, gotten way more muscular during while
<v Speaker 4>he was off on injury, and so that match, I'm
<v Speaker 4>like you know, obviously Randy Orton Xavier Woods was this
<v Speaker 4>week that that was you know, passable SERVERABWL.
<v Speaker 3>It wasn't nearly as good.
<v Speaker 4>But to watch Matt Riddle with the scooter in the
<v Speaker 4>ring when Randy Orton hit the bro Derek On Xavier Woods,
<v Speaker 4>like I smiled, that genuinely was a feel good moment
<v Speaker 4>for me.
<v Speaker 3>So I don't know about you. I love the finisher
<v Speaker 3>for finisher thing.
<v Speaker 4>I don't know somehow Randy Orton and Matt Riddle are
<v Speaker 4>going to figure out how to bro Derek into an RKAO.
<v Speaker 3>I could see some some crazy stuff like that.
<v Speaker 4>But yeah, there's like, this is a storyline that has
<v Speaker 4>potential to go for a good six months something like
<v Speaker 4>that as a team and then an organic breakup because
<v Speaker 4>Randy Orton's Randy Orton. It makes sense, Like it's it's
<v Speaker 4>like that simple. Imagine if they applied this logic in
<v Speaker 4>other areas. But this is like a good storyline that
<v Speaker 4>I feel invested in. My only concern is I have
<v Speaker 4>no trust at this point. I'm waiting for I'm waiting
<v Speaker 4>for this to like take a hard left turn and
<v Speaker 4>not in a good way, not in like a turn
<v Speaker 4>way someone turns on the other. But just like whether
<v Speaker 4>it gets to be too much or you know, eventually.
<v Speaker 3>The key thing is gonna get old.
<v Speaker 4>And you know, when WWE finds something that's funny, they
<v Speaker 4>drive it in to the ground and then bury it
<v Speaker 4>and then dig it back up and then bury it again.
<v Speaker 1>That's gonna be the problem is, like you said, they
<v Speaker 1>got something good, but when they go, we got something, now,
<v Speaker 1>let's reuse it and reuse it and reuse it. And
<v Speaker 1>that's what I'm very concerned about as well. But maybe
<v Speaker 1>they won't and this thing plays out well. They've done
<v Speaker 1>really well so far about not rushing this. Randy Orton
<v Speaker 1>just didn't immediately go yeah, cool man, let's uh, let's
<v Speaker 1>let's be a team. He It's like they're taking baby
<v Speaker 1>steps and I like that, you know, like they Randy
<v Speaker 1>Orton used the bro Derek this week, where Riddle used
<v Speaker 1>the r KO last week. They almost did a pose
<v Speaker 1>together where Riddle did his you know, his his victory
<v Speaker 1>pose on his knees in the ring and Orton almost
<v Speaker 1>did his his pose where they kind of combine their
<v Speaker 1>poses together and they Randy Orton hesitated and walked out.
<v Speaker 1>I'm like Okay, like they are progressing this nicely where
<v Speaker 1>you want to see them as a team, and I'm not.
<v Speaker 1>I don't want either one to turn on the other.
<v Speaker 1>To me, that would be that would be one of
<v Speaker 1>the worst creative decisions in a while. I mean, there's
<v Speaker 1>a lot of them, but this would be a bad
<v Speaker 1>one because this is this chemist. This kind of chemistry
<v Speaker 1>is not easily attainable. You can come up with great
<v Speaker 1>stuff on paper all day and ultimately you put the
<v Speaker 1>red light on and things don't work. This, I think
<v Speaker 1>is overachieving anything that they had in mind. They probably
<v Speaker 1>thought that, yeah, I will tease them being a team
<v Speaker 1>for like a week, two weeks, and Randy's gonna turn
<v Speaker 1>on Riddle and then it's gonna be matt Le versus
<v Speaker 1>ortin at Hell and the Cell. That's probably what they thought.
<v Speaker 1>And I think they've got a lot of legs to
<v Speaker 1>go on this. But the danger is, like you said,
<v Speaker 1>when they find humor, especially humor, out of all of
<v Speaker 1>the elements of human emotion, humor is the worst of
<v Speaker 1>their abilities because humor is not easy. I mean, humor
<v Speaker 1>is probably the hardest thing to do in any genre,
<v Speaker 1>especially when wrestling is not meant to be humorous. So
<v Speaker 1>I'm very concerned that they're gonna just really f this
<v Speaker 1>up and just like you said, pound things into oblivion
<v Speaker 1>and then we're like, okay, this is officially turned stupid.
<v Speaker 1>And I only I don't enjoy anything on Monday net
<v Speaker 1>Ron anymore, like you know, so I don't know, but
<v Speaker 1>I'm loving this so far, I really and I that
<v Speaker 1>is absolutely one of the bright spots of the show
<v Speaker 1>are the chemistry between Orton and Riddle.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's nice to see him too.
<v Speaker 4>I don't know how many of those like untold things
<v Speaker 4>you've watched and stuff, but to like I remember watching
<v Speaker 4>one while back about the Undertaker and Randy Orton and
<v Speaker 4>how he missed his rehearsal and that famous story and
<v Speaker 4>you know, just about like having a match with the
<v Speaker 4>Undertaker on TV. I think at one point in him,
<v Speaker 4>you know, Undertaker giving him so much offense and then
<v Speaker 4>Vince being like, what are you doing and he was like, well.
<v Speaker 3>That's what we're supposed to do here, right, is give back.
<v Speaker 4>And so it's nice to see Randy Orton doing something
<v Speaker 4>along those lines obviously, to you know, besides the six
<v Speaker 4>minute RKO, but to Matt Riddle of giving back. It's
<v Speaker 4>nice to see him working with a younger guy. I
<v Speaker 4>don't know how much younger Matt Riddle is, but a
<v Speaker 4>younger talent at least. I'm curious to see what I
<v Speaker 4>think they hold off on the pose thing, or at
<v Speaker 4>least maybe you know, the official tag team beginning, if
<v Speaker 4>you want to call it that, maybe until they sign
<v Speaker 4>up officially for a tag team, because apparently you have
<v Speaker 4>to do that until fans come back. Yeah, because I
<v Speaker 4>think that'll get a big pop. I think if they're
<v Speaker 4>if they're searching for I think that'll be the big pop.
<v Speaker 4>But I also wonder, I mean, what do they do
<v Speaker 4>because eventually this is going to get over? And when
<v Speaker 4>what do you do when a thing gets over? As
<v Speaker 4>usually you end up putting the belt on whoever that is,
<v Speaker 4>you know, depending on what it is, obviously, but the
<v Speaker 4>tag team titles are on AJ Styles and Almost. Do
<v Speaker 4>you see Randy Orton and Matt Riddle going against Almost.
<v Speaker 3>And AJ styles?
<v Speaker 4>I could see, and we've seen it before a little bit. Again,
<v Speaker 4>it might might have been more for me my humor
<v Speaker 4>than yours. But the Matt Riddle almost dynamic I thought
<v Speaker 4>was funny and little glimpses that we have seen, so
<v Speaker 4>that is I assume what's going to be the next match,
<v Speaker 4>but I assume they don't do something like that until
<v Speaker 4>like your Summer Slam or your money in the bank.
<v Speaker 1>It's a yeah that that to me is a match
<v Speaker 1>that should happen, and I think it will happen and
<v Speaker 1>it is Summer Slam worthy, do I I think that
<v Speaker 1>WWE is going to keep Riddle and Worton going through
<v Speaker 1>SummerSlam probably. I mean SummerSlam is two months in change
<v Speaker 1>off August twenty first, and it's going to be in
<v Speaker 1>Vegas in front of fans, so I think that they
<v Speaker 1>will wait until that time to potentially not only for
<v Speaker 1>the pose, but also winning the belts. I mean, that
<v Speaker 1>is a match I would love to see, and perhaps
<v Speaker 1>that even means that once aj Styles loses the belts
<v Speaker 1>that he goes off on a singles run that I
<v Speaker 1>think he deserves to be on. And I know almost
<v Speaker 1>is a big, intimidating guy that can be humorous at times,
<v Speaker 1>and he commands presence when he's on the camera, but
<v Speaker 1>I think Aj Styles has more to give than being
<v Speaker 1>in a tag team, and he's not getting any younger,
<v Speaker 1>I would like to see at least one more good
<v Speaker 1>run with AJ and you talk about star power missing,
<v Speaker 1>I think him being on a tag team when star
<v Speaker 1>power is severely lacking is is not the best use
<v Speaker 1>of AJ Styles, given what he's done for the company
<v Speaker 1>in the past, and the matches he's had with John Cena,
<v Speaker 1>for God's sakes, the Instant Classics at SummerSlam number of
<v Speaker 1>years ago. So that's my hope is that when they
<v Speaker 1>drop those belts. As much as I you know, I'm
<v Speaker 1>fine with AJ and Oma almost, but to me, star
<v Speaker 1>power is key, and you can't have AJ Styles who's
<v Speaker 1>essentially forgotten on Monday Night Raw took four weeks for
<v Speaker 1>Creative to find them something to do after WrestleMania. They
<v Speaker 1>come back, they're not on the Hulu version, they're kind
<v Speaker 1>of in and out. I think that they're not going
<v Speaker 1>to be in matches with Jackson, Reiker and Elias. They're
<v Speaker 1>not even a team anymore. But yeah, so absolutely, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I agree.
<v Speaker 3>I think I think A. J.
<v Speaker 4>Seals is the kind of guy who you could put
<v Speaker 4>him versus Bobby Lashley at SummerSlam and I could buy it.
<v Speaker 4>He just has that credibility at this point, So I'm
<v Speaker 4>with you. I almost feel like he might be able
<v Speaker 4>to lose upwards when they lose the tag team titles possibly,
<v Speaker 4>which is such an oxymoron in itself, but it works
<v Speaker 4>from time to time.
<v Speaker 3>I mean, that was kind of what we were hoping
<v Speaker 3>was gonna happen, a big ee, I assume.
<v Speaker 4>But you mentioned Elias and Jackson Riker, the feud of
<v Speaker 4>Monday Night Raw, the nail biting story that's going on.
<v Speaker 3>What were your thoughts, I guess on Elias just deciding.
<v Speaker 4>That he, you know, on Memorial Day, he was going
<v Speaker 4>to turn on the veteran.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, I don't know. I mean, are we all
<v Speaker 1>supposed to just get behind him and salute him because
<v Speaker 1>he was in Iraq War veteran? Look? I respect that,
<v Speaker 1>and and I guess that's the point, is that how
<v Speaker 1>can you hate a veteran who put his life on
<v Speaker 1>the line for your you know, your freedom of this country.
<v Speaker 3>All that kind of thing on racist tweets? That might help?
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, did he did? He put out racist stuff? I
<v Speaker 1>didn't know.
<v Speaker 3>Do you remember this?
<v Speaker 4>This was the Forgotten Suns, right, So he was one
<v Speaker 4>of the three. The other two are released, which is
<v Speaker 4>super ironic, but he was the one if he's the
<v Speaker 4>reason why they got quote unquote forgotten, because they got
<v Speaker 4>called up to the main roster, I think. And then
<v Speaker 4>he tweeted out something and I think he claimed it
<v Speaker 4>was for hetal heat, which is just ridiculous, and I
<v Speaker 4>don't remember what the tweet was, just some racist crap,
<v Speaker 4>you know, your typical stuff, and without getting too much
<v Speaker 4>into politics. And then you know, again, the other two
<v Speaker 4>forgotten sons who didn't do anything quote unquote wrong and
<v Speaker 4>in that instance, are now released, but they kept that
<v Speaker 4>guy out of all of them, and now they have
<v Speaker 4>him in a storyline, in a riveting storyline with Elias
<v Speaker 4>that that that was definitely one of those situations where
<v Speaker 4>Vince mcman came, ripped up the script and decided, this
<v Speaker 4>is what we're doing tonight.
<v Speaker 1>Oh boy. All right, So I'm not much to.
<v Speaker 3>Talk about it.
<v Speaker 4>I hate to throw it over to you. I know
<v Speaker 4>it's such a hard but I just I feel like
<v Speaker 4>we'd remiss not to mention something that.
<v Speaker 3>Well stupid.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, well beyond those tweets. And I'm trying to
<v Speaker 1>like dick him up as you're talking, because I'm like curious,
<v Speaker 1>I somehow missed that completely, but putting that aside, like
<v Speaker 1>for now, I'll pretend that that didn't happen, even though
<v Speaker 1>that as a factor, I haven't seen it. So just
<v Speaker 1>storyline wise, how we're introduced to the fact that, Okay,
<v Speaker 1>he's a rack War veteran. Wonderful, you know that. That's
<v Speaker 1>that's cool again, racist sweets aside. But I don't I
<v Speaker 1>don't understand, Like what are we putting Elias and him
<v Speaker 1>together for and breaking up another tag team in a
<v Speaker 1>tag team division that, by the way, is about, you know,
<v Speaker 1>paper thin. So there goes another tag team again for
<v Speaker 1>you know that that division. Although ww's never focused on
<v Speaker 1>tag teams. I don't know. I mean, Jackson Riker great shape,
<v Speaker 1>he's got zero, like zero body fat. That's wonderful, He's
<v Speaker 1>okay in the ring. Elias has been spinning his wheels
<v Speaker 1>for years now, like years baby face to heal the
<v Speaker 1>baby face. I mean he must have taken tips from
<v Speaker 1>The Big Show on how many times they can turn.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I mean he's on pace to outpace the
<v Speaker 1>Big Show on a number of turns. He's had the
<v Speaker 1>same gimmick for years. I think it's time for Elias
<v Speaker 1>to just I don't know, scrap the whole wanna be musician,
<v Speaker 1>come out and do a bit. Yet I know I'm
<v Speaker 1>gonna get interrupted, Like can we scrap that? Can we
<v Speaker 1>scrap his guitar? I don't know. Elias needs a refresh
<v Speaker 1>in a very, very big way. I don't care if
<v Speaker 1>they completely blow up his character up. I really don't
<v Speaker 1>because he's losing on a weekly basis usually. And now
<v Speaker 1>we're supposed to care because Elias is turning on Jackson
<v Speaker 1>Riker and we're supposed to cheer for him because he's
<v Speaker 1>a veteran. I could. I really don't care. I mean,
<v Speaker 1>I don't care about either character. I just don't.
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, so that's I guess. My point is, so
<v Speaker 3>what's the point of the turn?
<v Speaker 4>Like where it's just these funny like they don't ever
<v Speaker 4>have it, Like where does this lead?
<v Speaker 3>Is my point.
<v Speaker 4>They never have a plan, and it's just as small.
<v Speaker 4>Like again we're talking about Elias and Jackson Riker. I
<v Speaker 4>think the world's gonna be okay, but like like that
<v Speaker 4>they broke up, but it's just like it's a microcosm
<v Speaker 4>the same Like what's what's the long term plan? You know?
<v Speaker 3>Uh?
<v Speaker 4>And I assume there isn't one unless we're getting some
<v Speaker 4>Jackson Riker push. I have a feeling one of them
<v Speaker 4>is going to be in the money in the Bank match,
<v Speaker 4>if not both of.
<v Speaker 3>Them, and I actually think they're both pretty talented in
<v Speaker 3>the ring.
<v Speaker 4>They're just like you said, I don't know Elias, like
<v Speaker 4>you said, he said the same gimmick. I think Elias
<v Speaker 4>is somebody who feeds off the audience obviously, and so
<v Speaker 4>without you know that, he doesn't have much to work with.
<v Speaker 3>So I don't know.
<v Speaker 1>Well, look what they did with Tucker turning on Otis.
<v Speaker 1>Where do they ever follow up with that?
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he just get gone. I mean, like, so they've
<v Speaker 1>done turns and there's a follow up, right and same,
<v Speaker 1>I mean obviously with the Alisa Black coming in and
<v Speaker 1>hitting Biggie and he's gone. I mean yeah, none, Like
<v Speaker 1>they clearly don't. They don't book past you know what
<v Speaker 1>they can see in front of their face. They don't
<v Speaker 1>have any long term anything for anyone. I'm not trying
<v Speaker 1>to be negative Nancy here, but it's it's plainly clear
<v Speaker 1>to see that, especially Postmania, they didn't know what the
<v Speaker 1>hell to do with the tag Team Champions uh, Seamus
<v Speaker 1>went into oblivion with what facing Ricochet for a number
<v Speaker 1>of weeks or facing umberto Carreo. I mean, Seamus one
<v Speaker 1>of the unsung heroes of twenty twenty in WWE. As
<v Speaker 1>much as I don't think he's a top top, top
<v Speaker 1>top guy, he's certainly a veteran who deserves more than
<v Speaker 1>just winning the US title and then just kind of
<v Speaker 1>burying him in your back pocket a mond a night raw.
<v Speaker 1>It's just there's so many examples of it. But all right,
<v Speaker 1>well that's a larger conversation. Any final thoughts on Jackson,
<v Speaker 1>Riker and Elias do I dare azk Yeah, Okay Bailey
<v Speaker 1>and Sasha Bailey, Sash Banks Bailey and Bianca bel Air
<v Speaker 1>Bianca come out, came out, And I think she cut
<v Speaker 1>a good promo here. I actually, as much as I
<v Speaker 1>don't like the stomach churning stuff of anything you can
<v Speaker 1>do look at me and use me to achieve your
<v Speaker 1>goals kind of crap, that is just so like, you know,
<v Speaker 1>a magic school bus level of like warmth. To me,
<v Speaker 1>I don't like that stuff. But I think what she
<v Speaker 1>was talking about came from a real place. I think
<v Speaker 1>that while it was maybe part scripted. You could see
<v Speaker 1>that when she was speaking the things that she was
<v Speaker 1>trying to talk about in her life of you know,
<v Speaker 1>when you put me down and you know, you say,
<v Speaker 1>I look manly with my muscles, and I just keep
<v Speaker 1>winning championship after championship. That I think came from a
<v Speaker 1>real place. And there's such a difference between when they're
<v Speaker 1>reading lines in their brain that they just saw backstage
<v Speaker 1>and they're just speaking as people. And that's where I
<v Speaker 1>thought she excelled this week, was speaking from real life
<v Speaker 1>experience about how people perceive her, the limits people put
<v Speaker 1>on her, you know, telling her that you should be
<v Speaker 1>doing this, you should be doing this. It was good.
<v Speaker 1>I really enjoyed her promo this week, probably the best
<v Speaker 1>and most impactful to me that she's had since being
<v Speaker 1>on the Quote main roster. And then of course she
<v Speaker 1>gets into Bailey and Bailey is doing her laugh, which
<v Speaker 1>I'm kind of split on her laugh. It was stupidly
<v Speaker 1>annoying to the point of almost channel changing. But now
<v Speaker 1>they've acknowledged it, acknowledged it, and she's a Bianca Bella
<v Speaker 1>has acknowledged it, and how it's disrespectful, and Bianca continues
<v Speaker 1>to get laughed at by Bailey, and so that's like
<v Speaker 1>Bailey's gimmick. Now maybe it's growing on me slightly. I'm
<v Speaker 1>not sure yet, but yeah, this match between these two,
<v Speaker 1>I fully don't expect Beanca to drop the belt, probably
<v Speaker 1>for several more months. I mean, it's gonna be a
<v Speaker 1>while before she drops that belt. And honestly, who's next
<v Speaker 1>in line, right, Like, who's even on that list that
<v Speaker 1>could possibly take out you know, Bianca bell Air. But
<v Speaker 1>what did you think this past week with the segment
<v Speaker 1>with Bailey via satellite and Bianca Bella's promo.
<v Speaker 4>I actually I'm in agreement with you. I thought this
<v Speaker 4>was Bianca Bellair's best promo, at least for me too.
<v Speaker 4>I thought, like you said, I believed her when what scripted.
<v Speaker 3>Or not, and whether it was or not, I believed
<v Speaker 3>her with what she was saying. I assume it was.
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, I believe that came from a real place too.
<v Speaker 4>And in regards to Bailey and Bianca, I think the
<v Speaker 4>match at WrestleMania Backlash, the Magic Backlash, let me just
<v Speaker 4>call it Backlash, kind of suffered from being post zombie apocalypse.
<v Speaker 3>I think I don't.
<v Speaker 4>I think they just didn't it wasn't their best night,
<v Speaker 4>which is fine and everybody's worthy of it off night.
<v Speaker 3>Not every match is going to be, you.
<v Speaker 4>Know, five star, so I definitely think that they could
<v Speaker 4>put on a better performance, and that's kind of the
<v Speaker 4>benefit of this like minimum three match rule that they
<v Speaker 4>have in these feuds. I think the only the only
<v Speaker 4>way that I'm gonna be super intrigued in all this because,
<v Speaker 4>like I'm with you, I don't think Bigley wins.
<v Speaker 3>The belt though I think she always could.
<v Speaker 4>She's just one of those people always kind of an
<v Speaker 4>aj Styles for me, always could. Uh, Like back when
<v Speaker 4>ag styles face Drew McIntyre at that TLC paper.
<v Speaker 3>Like I almost they had me a couple of spots.
<v Speaker 3>So I don't know.
<v Speaker 4>The only way that I'm gonna necessarily be too intrigued
<v Speaker 4>in this is if you tell me or if we
<v Speaker 4>lead to Sasha Banks versus Bailey versus Bianca bell Air
<v Speaker 4>in a triple threat at Summer Slam. I think that's
<v Speaker 4>where I'd like to lead this to. I don't I
<v Speaker 4>don't know if that's the case or if that's what's
<v Speaker 4>gonna happen, but that's a you know, a money match again,
<v Speaker 4>where do you go after that Lily or Carmela or
<v Speaker 4>you know, the same stuff that you've already done. Bianca
<v Speaker 4>Bellair just beat Carmela, so I guess you can't really
<v Speaker 4>go there.
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, like we said NXC call ups, but
<v Speaker 3>I think what they're doing.
<v Speaker 4>I like the the screen thing wasn't necessarily for me
<v Speaker 4>because I just we're supposed to be in a live audience,
<v Speaker 4>like we're supposed to believe that it is to be
<v Speaker 4>a quote unquote live audience, and I don't know if
<v Speaker 4>we're supposed to believe that, like the sound effects are
<v Speaker 4>going along with that or whatever. But when you do
<v Speaker 4>your you know, spooky stuff and put Bailey on every screen,
<v Speaker 4>it kind of detracts from that. And it's the Thunderdome
<v Speaker 4>makes it even more Thunderdomie, So who knows. I fear
<v Speaker 4>that Bailey's gonna get cheered if they have a match
<v Speaker 4>in front of fans, because people just love Bailey, and
<v Speaker 4>I would I would hate that for Bianca Bella Air
<v Speaker 4>because I think she's done a great job with what
<v Speaker 4>she's got. I hope there's no hair in this next match,
<v Speaker 4>but yeah, I mean almost serviceable.
<v Speaker 3>I would say I would say solid B plus stuff.
<v Speaker 1>Agreed, Yeah, it was. We've certainly had worse, i mean,
<v Speaker 1>compared to everything else going on in the women's division.
<v Speaker 1>This is an absolute highlight with these two heel Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>very clearly defined. I don't need to think about who
<v Speaker 1>I want to win, who I want to lose. I
<v Speaker 1>think it's amazing that Bianca Bella Air has taken a
<v Speaker 1>gimmick that is the most healed gimmick of all time,
<v Speaker 1>saying that you're the est, You're the best, strongest, the brightest,
<v Speaker 1>the fastest, I mean, you are essentially saying that you
<v Speaker 1>are the most superior human being ever to exist, and
<v Speaker 1>somehow making it endearing. It's it's really amazing of how
<v Speaker 1>she's done it and been able to not get booed
<v Speaker 1>for it. And WrestleMania with the fans there, she got
<v Speaker 1>a very warmert and people were really you know, on
<v Speaker 1>her side. During match at WrestleMania, probably the matchup. You
<v Speaker 1>could argue the match she had with Sasha Banks was
<v Speaker 1>the best match at WrestleMania. You could make that argument.
<v Speaker 1>Outside of the Roman reigns Edge and Daniel Bryan match,
<v Speaker 1>you can even make an argument against that. It was
<v Speaker 1>that good. So I think she's she's built up a
<v Speaker 1>lot of goodwill with fans, but her gimmick, it's just
<v Speaker 1>amazing how how really arrogant that gimmick is, and yet
<v Speaker 1>she makes it sort of humble. It's it's it's it's
<v Speaker 1>really fascinating of how they've done it, and I think
<v Speaker 1>easily translates to a heel turn whenever they do decide
<v Speaker 1>to go that road for Bianca bel Air, which is
<v Speaker 1>probably not gonna be antill next year. I think that
<v Speaker 1>they'll squeeze all the juice out of this babyface title
<v Speaker 1>run as long as they can and there's a lot left.
<v Speaker 1>So but boys, that translate perfectly into a heel run
<v Speaker 1>whenever they decide to pull the trigger on that.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.
<v Speaker 4>Absolutely, I think she'd play both parts really well. She's
<v Speaker 4>just endearing and she's very lovable, which is a weird
<v Speaker 4>thing to say, but she's just very lovable.
<v Speaker 3>I think, yes, as a person. So it works.
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I think the whole WrestleMania think works so
<v Speaker 4>well because Sasha Banks is so e're you know, piercing
<v Speaker 4>with I talk.
<v Speaker 3>About a bad laugh.
<v Speaker 4>Bayley's is like, I don't know, hearing a newborn baby
<v Speaker 4>in comparison to me, I just like, I guess maybe
<v Speaker 4>that's not a really endearing sound either. You would know
<v Speaker 4>better than I would.
<v Speaker 3>Is it's way better than in comparison to Sasha Banks. Laugh.
<v Speaker 3>So I think I don't know. I love. I love
<v Speaker 3>what Bailey's doing. I think Bailey's throwing everything at the
<v Speaker 3>wall and seeing what sticks. And you can't you know,
<v Speaker 3>blame her for that, and.
<v Speaker 4>And so yeah, well, obviously we'll see when Sasha Banks
<v Speaker 4>comes back, because that's bound to happen eventually.
<v Speaker 3>But I think, I again, this is, like I said,
<v Speaker 3>it's serviceable and it's working. I don't have too many complaints.
<v Speaker 3>It's not am I thrilled or excited? No, have I
<v Speaker 3>already seen the match? Yes?
<v Speaker 4>So like it's nothing new, I guess, is my point.
<v Speaker 4>It's nothing really to sink my teeth into. But like
<v Speaker 4>I said, it is it's a women's division match.
<v Speaker 3>That makes sense, let me put it that way. So
<v Speaker 3>that's that's how low the bar is set.
<v Speaker 1>Right now, that's the thing. And we shouldn't have to
<v Speaker 1>lower the bar, but we do automatically, you know, for
<v Speaker 1>as high as the women's division was high, you know,
<v Speaker 1>main eventing WrestleMania thirty five to where we are now. Unfortunately,
<v Speaker 1>they have regressed quite a bit. If you if you
<v Speaker 1>were to tell me, you know, in two years less
<v Speaker 1>than two years time, we'd be where we're at, I
<v Speaker 1>would have said, Noah, they're going to keep you know,
<v Speaker 1>they're going to keep ascending. And why they haven't ever
<v Speaker 1>had another Evolution pay per view is also beyond me.
<v Speaker 1>I thought there for the first Evolution pay per view
<v Speaker 1>was one of the best pay per views of the year,
<v Speaker 1>the only Evolution pay per view. It was amazing and
<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking to myself, like, how are we not doing
<v Speaker 1>this again? It was awesome?
<v Speaker 3>Uh.
<v Speaker 1>And so that's another again, the women's division, the women.
<v Speaker 4>How would you fill a whole pay per view with
<v Speaker 4>seven women on one you know what I mean?
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean that's the answer.
<v Speaker 1>But again, you could make it so it doesn't have
<v Speaker 1>to be you know, ten matches, I mean, just because
<v Speaker 1>pay per view event. You could still make it, you know,
<v Speaker 1>a five match maybe top six match pay per view.
<v Speaker 1>You don't have to go all out and make those
<v Speaker 1>particular matches last longer and make the programs more intriguing.
<v Speaker 1>But I guess they're not at a point right now
<v Speaker 1>where they could do it given the storylines and really
<v Speaker 1>the star lack of star power and bad booking over
<v Speaker 1>the last six to ten months. But you know, with
<v Speaker 1>the right booking, creative and star power, I think it's doable.
<v Speaker 1>I think why not. It's just it's amazing. That was
<v Speaker 1>in what twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen?
<v Speaker 4>No, I think it was twenty eighteen, and I'm all
<v Speaker 4>four two and I hate to be negative Nelly again here,
<v Speaker 4>but like I think about your negative Nancy, I guess
<v Speaker 4>I'm negative Nelly. The that was the time around the
<v Speaker 4>first Saudi Arabia show, if I'm correct.
<v Speaker 3>And I think I hate to put it this way.
<v Speaker 4>I don't think it was let's give the women a
<v Speaker 4>pay per review of their own. I think it was
<v Speaker 4>let's give the women a pay per view of their
<v Speaker 4>all because we're about to have another one that they're
<v Speaker 4>not allowed to wrestle on for blood money.
<v Speaker 1>That's right, because the Prince wants to be able to
<v Speaker 1>basically create any matchup he wants, and even bring Sean
<v Speaker 1>Michaels out of retirement, which we don't ever talk about.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, yeah, yeah, for good reason. Yeah, God, I
<v Speaker 1>mean please, whatever you do, guys, do not ever watch
<v Speaker 1>that match. And it's not only that you don't want
<v Speaker 1>to see a bald Shawn Michael's wrestle on top of it,
<v Speaker 1>it just doesn't work. One of the most bizarre and
<v Speaker 1>just had matches in Shawn Michael's career. So we'll pretend
<v Speaker 1>it ended at Wrestlming in twenty six. So but yeah,
<v Speaker 1>that very well could be a lot of politically driven
<v Speaker 1>motivations there. And you know what's interesting, and I'm gonna
<v Speaker 1>really kind of toe the line here with Saudi Arabia anyway,
<v Speaker 1>not United States politics, that's another very dangerous topic. But
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's interesting with Saudi Arabia. They're celebrating all
<v Speaker 1>the women that are able to you know, perform there.
<v Speaker 1>I think it was Lacy Evans and Italia who were
<v Speaker 1>the first women ever able to perform in front of
<v Speaker 1>a crowd out basically you know, in very conservative, conservative,
<v Speaker 1>wearying outfits. And I get that, but why are we
<v Speaker 1>celebrating something that should have happened, you know, like a
<v Speaker 1>long ass time ago, in you know, just in humanity.
<v Speaker 1>I understand that it's great that it happened, but why
<v Speaker 1>are we celebrating the fact that it took this long
<v Speaker 1>to happen, right, Like, I mean, it's it's it's not
<v Speaker 1>a good look, and I know that it makes WW
<v Speaker 1>look good and all they were able to convince, you know,
<v Speaker 1>the government to put on this mat. I don't know,
<v Speaker 1>that's a whole other topic. It just people were all
<v Speaker 1>excited and cheering and crying and it is a big day.
<v Speaker 1>But you should also kind of reflect and go, it's
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty or whatever it was in twenty nineteen whenever
<v Speaker 1>that match happened. Why is it only happening just now again?
<v Speaker 1>And why are the women still being oppressed in that
<v Speaker 1>country anyway? So that's again very dangerous topic to talk
<v Speaker 1>about politics here, but that's as far as I'll go
<v Speaker 1>with that. So all right, Kevin Owen, this is again
<v Speaker 1>we're we're kind of closing things out here. Kevin Owens
<v Speaker 1>and Apollo Cruise their Commonal Championship. Commander Disease with his
<v Speaker 1>Giant Q tip did not show up, which was good.
<v Speaker 1>We got Kevin Owens losing after being attacked by Commander
<v Speaker 1>as these backstage and uh, Commander Apollo Cruise retains after
<v Speaker 1>hitting a death valley driver on the ring, Apron and
<v Speaker 1>Sammy's ain came in and uh basically picked up the
<v Speaker 1>scraps Halluba kicked Kevin Owens and talk trash.
<v Speaker 4>So your thoughts on this, I'll say that I'm sorry.
<v Speaker 1>You gotta answer that.
<v Speaker 3>I'll say no, no, but.
<v Speaker 4>I'll say, uh, the uh the attack looked good. Uh
<v Speaker 4>you know backstage, I'll give them that, like I thought,
<v Speaker 4>you know, it was different. It's different than a just
<v Speaker 4>qualification finish, so it's to start, you know, it's still
<v Speaker 4>a cheap way for Apollocus to win, which is I
<v Speaker 4>just this is again, you know, a like a.
<v Speaker 3>What's the word I'm looking for. It's just a small.
<v Speaker 4>Dose of what is a bigger problem in WW about
<v Speaker 4>the distraction finishes and heels not like every heels got
<v Speaker 4>to be a cheating heel, Like every heel just can't
<v Speaker 4>win a match like Roman Reign stated a Czarro, and
<v Speaker 4>I don't know if it's to protect the baby Faces.
<v Speaker 4>I don't think Czarro lost anything in that match. I
<v Speaker 4>think that's a perfect example to go back to. So
<v Speaker 4>I also don't think that Kevin Owens is like this
<v Speaker 4>person that needs to be predicted at this point like
<v Speaker 4>that I think I think you could have just kind
<v Speaker 4>of fed Kevin Owens to Apollo Cruise and have Apollo
<v Speaker 4>Cruise beat him clean. No, and again he did, I
<v Speaker 4>guess in a way, but no backstage attack, no anything,
<v Speaker 4>and like yeah, and then flash his big goofy smile
<v Speaker 4>and play his music that yells Apollo and like have
<v Speaker 4>him be obnoxious as all hell, Like it doesn't need
<v Speaker 4>to be the same formula every time of.
<v Speaker 3>Heavy gets involved, and that's why he'll wins.
<v Speaker 4>I think there's different ways to get heal heat and
<v Speaker 4>and every now and then it's fine, but when you
<v Speaker 4>do it so often, it's just I don't know, it's
<v Speaker 4>so drawn out. But so I like the match, and
<v Speaker 4>I also will say that I did like I mean,
<v Speaker 4>it's Kevin Owens and Apollo Cruise.
<v Speaker 3>What's kind of not to like?
<v Speaker 4>But I did like that Apollo Cruise. I don't know
<v Speaker 4>if it's going to be a new finisher of his.
<v Speaker 4>Hopefully it wasn't. Hopefully it was just a death valley
<v Speaker 4>driver on what's supposedly the hardest part of the ring.
<v Speaker 4>Like yeah, like that would end a match, you know,
<v Speaker 4>I support, especially with the pre pre match attack. I
<v Speaker 4>supported that so I liked that it was a it
<v Speaker 4>was a finish to a match that wasn't a finisher.
<v Speaker 3>I think that doesn't get done enough. So I yeah,
<v Speaker 3>those are my thoughts on that.
<v Speaker 4>I mean again, commanders Ease and the SAMO and Spike
<v Speaker 4>and what It's just a little it's a little all.
<v Speaker 3>Hokey for me. But it's Apollo Cruise is you know,
<v Speaker 3>not where he was.
<v Speaker 4>Imagine where he was in six months from or ago
<v Speaker 4>from now, crazy to think about it. So this mid
<v Speaker 4>card picture looked a lot better before alex Or Black
<v Speaker 4>got released.
<v Speaker 3>That's I guess that's what I'll say. But good match entertaining,
<v Speaker 3>Yeah it was.
<v Speaker 1>I was totally fine with it. And I'm okay too
<v Speaker 1>that the fact that if this is not his finish,
<v Speaker 1>that this ended the match, because everything that's labeled as
<v Speaker 1>a finisher doesn't have to be the finish of the match.
<v Speaker 1>And you know, for example, a superkick. You know, I've
<v Speaker 1>talked about this many times too. Why are superkicks transitional moves?
<v Speaker 1>Superkicks apparently have the same effect as a clothesline. Now,
<v Speaker 1>they're just transitional moves, like a DBT is a transitional move.
<v Speaker 1>Spiking someone's head into the canvas is a transitional move.
<v Speaker 1>It just has evolved into that everyone uses it and
<v Speaker 1>it should be a finish. You know. Also, when Kevin
<v Speaker 1>Owens relabels his finish to the stunner the pop up
<v Speaker 1>power bomb, just because he relabeled it is suddenly just
<v Speaker 1>a false finish. It's interesting, right, Like, even though the
<v Speaker 1>pop up power bomb for many years worked for him
<v Speaker 1>and it was a finish, and he executes it the
<v Speaker 1>same way, but now it's not. He doesn't say that's
<v Speaker 1>his finish anymore. So apparently it doesn't have the same
<v Speaker 1>power and.
<v Speaker 4>Effect flu vaccine, isn't it. It's like the flu vaccine.
<v Speaker 4>Every year, we got to get a new one because
<v Speaker 4>apparently we just become immune to it.
<v Speaker 1>Exactly. Yeah, it's the same kind of same thing there,
<v Speaker 1>And I don't know, I have no problem with the
<v Speaker 1>fact that it's a you know, it's still part of
<v Speaker 1>his arsenal. It should be, but it should eventually. You know,
<v Speaker 1>I'm okay with the pop up power bomb ending a
<v Speaker 1>match because it used to for many years until you said,
<v Speaker 1>that's not my finish anymore. And then all of a sudden,
<v Speaker 1>everyone who you know receives that is like, oh wait,
<v Speaker 1>I get to kick out because that's not that's not
<v Speaker 1>it's finish anymore. Like it's just I don't know. But anyway,
<v Speaker 1>the match was fine, really good. Actually I enjoyed this.
<v Speaker 1>Paula Cruz has I mean, reinvented himself overnight, really, I
<v Speaker 1>mean literally overnight by this Nigerian gimmick and Dabocato i e.
<v Speaker 1>The Commander disease. I think has done a very good
<v Speaker 1>job using the Samoan spike also known as now the
<v Speaker 1>Nigerian nail is doing a very good job. I really
<v Speaker 1>don't have any complaints about this. I expect Biggie to
<v Speaker 1>get involved now that Alistair Black is am I are
<v Speaker 1>obviously gone, so this certainly is a match that I'm
<v Speaker 1>interested in. But also Sammy z Ain bringing his face
<v Speaker 1>into this and Luba kicking Kevin Owens says, if we
<v Speaker 1>haven't seen these two fight enough, which is always entertaining,
<v Speaker 1>but it's you know, we've seen it one hundred times,
<v Speaker 1>so I'm a little bit split on this, but I
<v Speaker 1>can't complain, I mean, honestly, in grant in the grand
<v Speaker 1>scheme of things, I think this is just fine. I'm
<v Speaker 1>fine with Apollo Cruse, Kevin Owens and sammy's Ain. I
<v Speaker 1>think Sammy z Ain and Apollo Cruz both have heel
<v Speaker 1>heat and I do want to see Apollo Cruz get
<v Speaker 1>his ass kicked, and that's the goal. I want to
<v Speaker 1>see Kevin Owens hit a stunner and get the victory
<v Speaker 1>in BIC Champion. So that's how I know they're doing
<v Speaker 1>their job. So it's a compliment to really all involved.
<v Speaker 4>So I guess I have to ask you with all
<v Speaker 4>that being said, because you said Sammy's In and Kevin Owens,
<v Speaker 4>which I'm with you, but it's always like, you know,
<v Speaker 4>I can never complain about that match at least yet,
<v Speaker 4>just because I think.
<v Speaker 3>Make everybody else in the card look bad.
<v Speaker 4>They're so good together chemistry wise, and you know they
<v Speaker 4>hate each other so hard and so that in a
<v Speaker 4>Hell in a Cell would be entertaining as all hell.
<v Speaker 3>Again, what does it really mean? I don't know. They've
<v Speaker 3>got some kind of stories, so you go with it.
<v Speaker 4>So what matches would you put in the Hell in
<v Speaker 4>a Cell for this Hell in a Cell pay per view?
<v Speaker 4>As we're we'rerapping stuff up, obviously, if you're thinking like
<v Speaker 4>two or three hell and of Cell matches is what
<v Speaker 4>they usually do. I know you hate the hell and
<v Speaker 4>of cell gimmick match, gimmick pay per view. I do too,
<v Speaker 4>but we're here now. We can't change things. Sadly, what
<v Speaker 4>matches do you think you're gonna be in?
<v Speaker 3>A hellens sell?
<v Speaker 1>It's actually kind of easy for me this year, and
<v Speaker 1>I know that they always and then they should only
<v Speaker 1>do two one from Raw, one from SmackDown. So again,
<v Speaker 1>beyond the gimmick thing, which is just absolutely ridiculous and
<v Speaker 1>watering down the meaning of it, Seth Rollins and Cesarro,
<v Speaker 1>I think is deserving of it. And I also think
<v Speaker 1>that Bobby Lashley Andrew mckenshire to conclude this damn program
<v Speaker 1>and get Drew into something beyond the championship picture are
<v Speaker 1>the two? What about you?
<v Speaker 3>Yeah? I think I'm with you too. It's so funny.
<v Speaker 4>I I feel like Seth Rollins and bazar to serves it,
<v Speaker 4>and I think if they don't put that in, it's
<v Speaker 4>gonna be it's gonna be a mistake. The only other
<v Speaker 4>thing is I can say is like, you know, we
<v Speaker 4>talked about Jimmy uso versus Roman Reins in a Helena
<v Speaker 4>Cell match, possibly too So that is where I could
<v Speaker 4>see them doing three. But then again, you want to
<v Speaker 4>have two years in a row where you don't. Let no,
<v Speaker 4>last year they had the women had a hell in
<v Speaker 4>the Cell match. I take it back, maybe it was
<v Speaker 4>maybe I'm thinking of a different pay per view.
<v Speaker 3>Uh, but I don't know.
<v Speaker 4>Again, you got no women get to be in this again,
<v Speaker 4>does any program deserve it? Probably not the point, Yeah,
<v Speaker 4>but I mean does any program really deserve it at
<v Speaker 4>this point?
<v Speaker 3>I don't know about that. So I don't know. I
<v Speaker 3>guess I think I think there's gonna be three.
<v Speaker 4>I think you've got the Roman reins Jimmy US, which
<v Speaker 4>again is not announced.
<v Speaker 3>Obviously none of these are but Jimmy US.
<v Speaker 4>So Roman rains and then, like you said, Bobby Lashley Dreamacanti,
<v Speaker 4>I could see them not putting Bobby Lashley and Drew
<v Speaker 4>McIntyre and Helena Cell. I feel like if they were
<v Speaker 4>gonna do it right now, they wouldn't. Don't you think
<v Speaker 4>what they would have said it?
<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah they didn't. They just said you gotta be
<v Speaker 1>careful because it's a it's a very small change in
<v Speaker 1>words where they say at Helen is Cell versus in
<v Speaker 1>Helen is cell like it's so easily looked over. But
<v Speaker 1>that is the key word, as we all know. So yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I don't think again, none of these are truly deserving
<v Speaker 1>of the cell. But I'm thinking WWE's way of thinking
<v Speaker 1>and going, Okay, one has to be from raw, one
<v Speaker 1>has to be from SmackDown. But if we do that,
<v Speaker 1>does one of them have to be the women? Or
<v Speaker 1>do we add a third for the women? And you
<v Speaker 1>could be right, we could see three. I hope it's
<v Speaker 1>not three, though. I would sacrifice Drew and Bobby for
<v Speaker 1>a women's match. I really would if I was going
<v Speaker 1>to choose one.
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, and which women's match do you think?
<v Speaker 1>I mean, Bianca and Bailey is a good program. I
<v Speaker 1>have no problem with that. Ria Ripley and Charlotte though,
<v Speaker 1>would be really good together. It's hard because none of
<v Speaker 1>them make me well, that's going to be great inside
<v Speaker 1>the cell. This is deserving of it. If you're forcing
<v Speaker 1>me to make a choice, I would say, if we're
<v Speaker 1>aw well, if ww likes to keep things balanced and
<v Speaker 1>they're going to sacrifice the champion WWE championship, then I'd
<v Speaker 1>say Charlotte and Ria Ripley, so they not only get
<v Speaker 1>a women's match in there but also represent raw if Seth,
<v Speaker 1>Rollins and Cesarro are going to represent SmackDown and they
<v Speaker 1>get a men's one there, so that maybe that's how I'd.
<v Speaker 4>Set it up. Yeah, that makes sense, because otherwise I
<v Speaker 4>would have probably said Bianca bell Air and Bayley just
<v Speaker 4>because it would be nice to see that side of
<v Speaker 4>Bianca bell Air.
<v Speaker 3>But I think you're right if they were going to
<v Speaker 3>keep it balanced.
<v Speaker 4>It sounds like we're not going to get a women's
<v Speaker 4>match in Helen to Sell though, And like you said,
<v Speaker 4>and like I said before too, I don't know how
<v Speaker 4>deserving it is anyways.
<v Speaker 1>Which again I hate saying that because there are there's
<v Speaker 1>a lot of talented women. It's the creative in the
<v Speaker 1>stories that are really, I think, very underutilized right now.
<v Speaker 1>They're not very fleshed out. I just have very little interest,
<v Speaker 1>especially in Riha Ripley. And it's sad to say I
<v Speaker 1>think she's fine in the main roster. I'm not saying
<v Speaker 1>center back to n XT. It's just men. Oh man.
<v Speaker 1>The damage that they've done in such a short amount
<v Speaker 1>of time with her, it's scary.
<v Speaker 3>It's scarysive.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's almost like they've made an effort.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, absolutely, God.
<v Speaker 1>All right, well, guys, I hope we weren't through negative,
<v Speaker 1>but we were calling like it is. And hopefully when
<v Speaker 1>fans return in about five weeks, things can turn over.
<v Speaker 1>Things should turn around, and maybe the bad taste of
<v Speaker 1>all these releases will be out of our mouths, or
<v Speaker 1>at least in the distant past, and we can look
<v Speaker 1>forward to maybe some massive names coming back, rumors of
<v Speaker 1>John Cena versus Roman at you know, Summer Slam, and
<v Speaker 1>of course perhaps the sale of WWE. All these things
<v Speaker 1>that are just floating out there as conversation points. Maybe
<v Speaker 1>they will come true, maybe they won't. But before you go, Mimi,
<v Speaker 1>is there any social media you want to share or
<v Speaker 1>anything else?
<v Speaker 3>No, no social media. I always say that you can.
<v Speaker 4>If you have any thoughts, you can always email me
<v Speaker 4>at at MEMI do realww podcast at gmail dot com,
<v Speaker 4>and one day it'll happen.
<v Speaker 3>I'll get to Twitter. But before I go, I will
<v Speaker 3>I will ask you totally.
<v Speaker 4>I think this has something to do with WWE, because
<v Speaker 4>you've got Logan Paul who was in WV at WrestleMania,
<v Speaker 4>and Floyd Mayweather who had the Great One of the
<v Speaker 4>greatest celebrity matches. And then more over, now I can't
<v Speaker 4>say his last name or misname it all. The one
<v Speaker 4>who used to be the NXT commentator I think is commentating.
<v Speaker 4>Are you or do you have any interest in the
<v Speaker 4>fight that is going on tonight, the boxing match.
<v Speaker 1>At I you know, it's funny. I only saw that
<v Speaker 1>it was happening a few days ago, popped up on
<v Speaker 1>my aisle like Facebook, O something you'd be interested in.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I know who Logan Paul is. I used
<v Speaker 1>to watch him on Vine when Vine was the app
<v Speaker 1>before TikTok was the video app. So I know who
<v Speaker 1>Logan Paul was. I know all the bad press he's
<v Speaker 1>gotten about the suicide jokes he made in Japan or whatever,
<v Speaker 1>and even got destroyed for that his YouTube channel. Obviously
<v Speaker 1>he part in WWE. And do I have any interest
<v Speaker 1>in it? Mild, I'm not a boxing fan per se.
<v Speaker 1>I mean again, this is where star power draws money.
<v Speaker 1>It's it's relevant in any sport you can possibly think of, movies,
<v Speaker 1>TV shows, stars star stars. So that's why people are
<v Speaker 1>interested in this. But you're gonna ask me who I
<v Speaker 1>think wins. Probably Floyd, Uh yeah, I think Floyd wins
<v Speaker 1>because of speed, not power. That's what has gotten Floyd
<v Speaker 1>Mayweather to where he is now is how freaking fast
<v Speaker 1>this dude is with his hands. And I think that's
<v Speaker 1>gonna be the game changer and probably knock out Logan Paul.
<v Speaker 1>That's my that's my guess.
<v Speaker 3>Oh, you think he's gonna I don't think he's gonna not.
<v Speaker 4>I think it's gonna be a boring fight that goes
<v Speaker 4>to eight rounds. That's my prediction, just because I don't know.
<v Speaker 4>You got to watch out for a guy who's like
<v Speaker 4>twenty pounds of your weight. I don't know much about
<v Speaker 4>boxing either, but I figured I would ask about it's
<v Speaker 4>it's somewhat.
<v Speaker 3>WW correlated, right, with a lot of curb.
<v Speaker 4>But again, like you said, star power crazy like how easy,
<v Speaker 4>Like I don't give a crap about boxing, but you
<v Speaker 4>talk about the people that I don't really know either,
<v Speaker 4>but I'm interested in watching him.
<v Speaker 1>Byte Well, if Floyd's listening, right, like, maybe you should
<v Speaker 1>just put the put the stunner in your arsenal. It
<v Speaker 1>worked that wrestling, Yeah.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it work.
<v Speaker 4>That's how That's how I'm calling the and I'm DraftKings
<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna.
<v Speaker 1>Bet that it ends and ends with the stuff. Oh
<v Speaker 1>my god. Yeah, I would love to know the betting
<v Speaker 1>odds of that. I mean that you'd be an instant,
<v Speaker 1>like an overnight millionaire if you're the only one to
<v Speaker 1>bid on that. Oh my gosh. So all right, well,
<v Speaker 1>thank you so much, Mamie. It's great to catch up
<v Speaker 1>with you. Of course, everybody listening knows that she hosts
<v Speaker 1>two shows a week doing the Highs and Lows, which
<v Speaker 1>just dropped today and the aw Review show. And you
<v Speaker 1>just did one last week with Ashley that was about
<v Speaker 1>two hours or so covering the double or Nothing pay
<v Speaker 1>per view. And we'll be in touch very soon, I'm sure.
<v Speaker 1>So thanks again for coming on.
<v Speaker 4>Of course, thanks for having me. It sounds like a
<v Speaker 4>lot of exciting stuff in the works.
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely we shall see probably some good and bad and
<v Speaker 1>hopefully no more releases.
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, fingers crossed.
<v Speaker 1>All right, you have a good night, Mami. Thanks so much. Bye.