Dr. Benjamin Wright

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Speaker 1: R and B money, honey, thanks take about the time.

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Speaker 2: We are the authorities on all the R and B.

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Speaker 3: Sure mayah, yeah, yes, of course I knew all about q mm hmm or when he was playing something with Jimmy Lusferger long before Count Basie and all of that.

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Speaker 2: Ship.

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Speaker 3: I got turned down when uh Clive Davis opened the studio in North in North Hollywood, Locking came over from Capital we buddies for me, say, man, I need some songs. I brought him four songs and I thought this were smokers. Can't listen to My ship didn't been up in this, Benjamin, What kind of ship is this? M hm A meen.

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Speaker 2: See, you brought me four pieces and ship.

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Speaker 3: Damn. I never even heard him.

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Speaker 2: Talk like that.

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Speaker 3: I didn't know what to say. Okay, give me my ship, let me go. I went home crying.

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Speaker 2: Mm hmm. I've never been turned out. Well, I'm crying.

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Speaker 3: Got to the door. The phone was ringing. This is how God works. Hello, Benjamin, right, Yes, this is Kluency Jones. Quency who Quincy Jones? Well, I never met Quincy, but I knew his whole background. Everybody played with all the old timers and open and they two more times.

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Speaker 2: I asked him in new conversation question.

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Speaker 3: Who mm hmm. He said, Hey, man, I'm working on Michael Jackson. Really want you to be part of it, but I'm still scared. Cat gave me an actress to come to. I found a place. Beautiful lady come innswered the door, and I knew the lady. The lady was Peggy Lifton. I knew her because I've been watching March Squad. And she said, Hi, Benjamin, Damn, she knows what's what's up?

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Speaker 2: Man? Damn?

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Speaker 3: Nothing like that, you know. Yeah, gave man how you doing so?

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Speaker 2: And so?

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Speaker 3: Man, I'm glad you hear so. And he said, come on back. It's a big studio in the back. I'm quiet, I'm scared. I'm scared. I'm actually scared. I never been in the midst of such royalty. Then you start talking, Yeah, man, I'm Finn do this, this project on Michael Jackson, and so I really want you to be involved. Okay, I'm quiet, Yes, sir, you can't give me a song. One song? And he gave me thirty days. Okay, about twenty eight days. I still hadn't put anything on the paper. I didn't know what to do. I know what to write because this is Quincy Jones. I knew all of his history, but it's still Quinny. I prayed on it. Lord, I need God and our friends, he said, Benjamin, just go in there and start writing. I did it a few days later, session time. I think I called forty string players got in in. When getting into the studio, I'm at home. Ain't no more fright. Maybe a fight because I'm going to kick somebody's ass.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 3: Whence he came in and watching him through the glass, he fell on on the floor, said, oh my god, something is wrong.

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Speaker 2: He was tripping.

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Speaker 3: This is the ship, this is it, and I'm still scared. Finally this one was over and he went crazy. The thing that let me know he went crazy because he gave me another song on the spot.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: The first song was don't stop you Can't keep on. He loved it. That's the first song I did.

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Speaker 1: He came out the gate though, okay, cooking, smoking, smoking, all right, ye see, I'm.

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Speaker 2: Coming over here next week too.

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Speaker 3: The next song was rock with you, good Lord, and God blessed it. And the home room. The next song shit I Forgot dance with me, No, No, no, I didn't.

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Speaker 2: I didn't do dancing. You didn't do dance with me.

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Speaker 3: I thought she did dance with me dancing dancing.

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Speaker 2: Dan No, no, no, no, no, you didn't do that one either.

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Speaker 3: I don't. I don't remember.

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Speaker 2: They gave you credit, they gave me.

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Speaker 3: It was minded. But the third song I can't remember. But collectively I had three songs.

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Speaker 2: And get on.

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Speaker 4: The floor, I'm singing as the yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, on the floor.

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Speaker 3: And I'm sorry I didn't I didn't tell you guys who my manager was.

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Speaker 2: Oh, we know her, we know her. Who was it Astley? Right? I said, wasn't anymore my lord?

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Speaker 3: And saved Jesus Christ. Yeah boom. So each one just huh stuck out of the park. When she gave me another song. Now there's four songs. But the fourth song was a song that I wrote. I don't know if you guys, I can remember song James Ingram singing called Fine one hundred ways because.

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Speaker 2: That's my ship.

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Speaker 3: Yeah we know, we do know that that's my song.

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Speaker 2: I wrote that. Talk about it. Yeah, he's boosted me on. Huh. You better believe it. You better believe it.

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Speaker 1: Hold on in case you haven't noticed. My name is Tank. I'm Jay Valentine, and this is the R and B Money Podcast, the authority of all things R and B. The legend was talking, all right, So when he talks, we listen. That's what's going on right now. All right, mister Benjamin Wright, Benjamin right, V.

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Speaker 2: You make V. Benjamin right.

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Speaker 4: You may continue however you want this interview to go.

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Speaker 2: It's how it's gonna go.

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Speaker 3: Well, I gave you another head start because Q didn't have any R and B hits one one. But that goes back to when I was a young fellow and he had gotten booted out of Europe and came to Chicago. He was actually living in Chicago then and Leslie.

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Speaker 2: Gore, you guys remember that name.

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Speaker 3: It's my pipe. Yeah, yeah, that's Posie Jones.

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Speaker 2: Didn't know that. I bet you didn't know that.

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Speaker 3: But that just made a whole nother thing for Q opened the world up to him, and he was He took a job at Mercury. Then then he came to the West Coast and everything else was history.

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Speaker 2: Everything he touches like but no not.

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Speaker 3: But however, everything I touched was hitting the top of the charts.

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Speaker 2: Called blessings blessings, real blessings.

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Speaker 3: And I did a lot of stuff with Cue, but these these four tunes that I just needed was like.

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Speaker 2: Unbelievable. And then you know, I got bigheaded. What happens.

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Speaker 3: I don't need to kill no more because everything else I was doing were hits. Everything I touched was the hit everything, and and I grew and the relationship that I was, that that was established with Q was a call from him every day when it became like that until he died.

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Speaker 2: You know, so straight ahead que.

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Speaker 3: Pretty much everything I've done, it's been a hit. It's a blessing. You.

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Speaker 1: You spoke earlier about a group called Earth Wind and Fire.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know.

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Speaker 1: You said you had a story about Boogie wonder Land.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Well, I don't know if you cats are old enough to remember the early recordings of Maurice.

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Speaker 2: White him completely by himself.

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Speaker 3: Well, Maurice was a jazz drummer. Okay, never heard that, literally no, And one of the jazz cats that you possibly remember was Ramsey Lewis. Oh yeah, but Maurice was too noisy because he plays like this, Yeah, he'd.

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Speaker 2: Be in his own world, you know.

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Speaker 3: But for the classy pianist what you doing, but he could play as he finally stepped away before the ram. Maurice White was the drummer at Chess Records. Mm hmm, you can remember Chess Records all of the stuff from Chess Maurice. So anyway, the studio that we recorded in what's called Paul Serrano's studio, and she cargo and Paul was like, Reese, gotta check out this young brother, Benjamin Wright Man.

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Speaker 2: Every day.

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Speaker 3: And this is very laid back, not gonna say much. So I start getting calls from Maurice's Hey man, Hey, Weese was sading man. Three minutes later nothing. Then, what kind of motherfucker? This calm never says anything. However, he his little brother, Fred White drummer and I played in the same band together, and I just got time getting calls from Maurice because he never says anything. So when didn't call, he say, hey man, I catch something for you. Oh no shit. The song tuned out. It was for a group called the Hutcheson Brothers something like that whatever, but didn't like how they performed on the song. Okay, and then the arrangement was a little suspect a little bit, but you gave it to me. I just got divorced.

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Speaker 2: I was broke. Mm hmm. That's what it did to you.

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Speaker 3: It's called no money, it's called and no, honey, you definitely get that's how you get the divorce. Wait a minute.

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Speaker 2: But at that time there was.

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Speaker 3: No ash in the air, and and all the other kids, and but and I was not a wild man. M I have to let this out.

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Speaker 2: All my life. I've been a church man, amen, all my life. Like me, okay, And.

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Speaker 1: We're trying to bust me, man, No, try to your audio man. You know how you recording the strings and eat that mic and a certain sweet spot to the same thing.

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Speaker 2: Same thing.

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Speaker 3: Anyway, you got divorced, and you broke and broke, and the phone rang. It was Maurice who this time had a song.

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Speaker 2: And I had to.

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Speaker 3: I had to walk over to the studio in Chicago a couple of blocks and he was doing something with another big crew. After the love He's gone, okay, mhm uh.

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Speaker 2: Oh, it's great.

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Speaker 3: You arrangement. You know who the arrangement was. Anyway, he was a friend of mine, okay. And I stood there and I listened, like, tell him this is bad. Rees gave me his song walked home. I'm excited because I finally got something from all ree White and I lived in Chicago and Reese and his family lived two streets over. But I, you know, was much older than me, so you know, we went hand m But I went to work. Man, I went to work, and about three days later I was finished because I was broke. I'm hot to the studio. People don't like me because I call all the musicians in the world do my sessions, big strings, big horns, all the superstars. We did it, and that song happened to have been will Give wonder Land. Now the emotions end up on it, but it didn't start out with them, and they were pissed because Maurice didn't give them the song. But Maurice says, you know, now this's got to be for the fire. Okay, yeah, that was it, and yeah, tell me what nine guys in their friend and Fire. I had about twelve horns and all the strings that we weren't working that day. Boom, come on, come ye all yeah, and you know you listen to the orchestrations on that. That's pretty heavy. Man and Reese had no idea whatever was going to be. But boy, when that thing started, that cat stood over in the corner with his mouth opening. It's like, damn, this got to be for the fire. Wasn't for the emotions anymore.

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Speaker 2: It's got to be for the fire.

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Speaker 3: They're still unhappy today today because they figured he took a hit from them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and those don't come around every day. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So that thing took off like crazy and still happening to day. A lot of my stuff I hear all the time.

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Speaker 2: Was that your first big hit? No, what's your first big hit?

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Speaker 3: You won't remember this. I have talked to your parents. Some are viewers enough, well you guys. For me with Chess records, I go back to then. You know, we didn't have all the consoles like this of it. I go way back, man.

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Speaker 2: But I was happening.

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Speaker 3: God was on my side, and everything I touched became a hit. I can't give you names, but everything I touched became a hit. And then I started getting calls from the Great California, who seemed like every week I had to come to California.

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Speaker 2: I did not like l A.

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Speaker 3: I'm really Chicago. I'm an hoolum. Yeah, fighting and ship that's what I did. But I was a musician on the side.

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Speaker 2: I used a hoodler first. Yeah, okay, all right.

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Speaker 3: When they started putting the Hulu guys together, ask kicker Benjamin right put him in there.

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Speaker 2: It was always fighting. Were you mad at somebody? No, I didn't have to be mad. It's a fight, it's and that's how you know. I'm not trying to be funny. Yeah, but that's how you're wired.

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Speaker 3: It was in Chicago. That's what you did in Chicago. Yeah, but start coming out here, and I didn't like it being out here. The only thing I fell in love with. La X had built a new Hyatt on Sunset Boulevard, whatever the street, run right into the Higaert.

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Speaker 2: That street. That's all I knew.

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Speaker 3: Coming in La Los Aega, Los Yenega, need the airport, coming right down Los Seneca.

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Speaker 2: Cab driver turned me on to Fat Burger. When the Fat Burger said, shit, I can move out here. Yeah yeah, And that was it.

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Speaker 3: Do you know take take about three days to finish the writing, go back stopping Fats Boom next week it's called come in La No problem. I don't mind coming to La now because I'm gonna get a Fatsburger boom.

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Speaker 2: That was it.

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Speaker 3: That's the routine. Then it got sold that I was coming out here like every other week, wagging charts.

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Speaker 2: It was happening. I did a lot of music out here.

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Speaker 3: Then I'm giving you my whole story. But I start having to come out here quite a bit. Now it's not three or four days, it's a week and two weeks and three weeks I'm writing. I'm just writing. So I call my then wife baby sell everything were moving to LA and forgive me.

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Speaker 2: I'm just using her language. Nigga, are you crazy?

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Speaker 3: I never heard that from her.

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Speaker 2: What I didn't say me?

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Speaker 3: I didn't respond because that hurt me.

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Speaker 2: I don't talk like that.

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Speaker 3: Three days later, they come back to Chicago. My office was at Chess Records. Then Jerry Butterland just moved across the hall.

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Speaker 2: We buddies.

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Speaker 3: Hey, Ben, Jerry, are you doing? Hey man, I'm fin the mood to La. He said, no, that's that's not.

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Speaker 2: A good move.

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Speaker 3: Jerry, you don't know what you're talking about. Got a taxi too, beout to drive to the South Side, get to the house.

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Speaker 2: Hey.

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Speaker 3: I took me three days to getting nine shit together. No conversations, wasn't necessary to say anything because I had my mind was.

00:22:50
Speaker 2: I'm going to l A.

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Speaker 3: I wanted to take the family, but my wife is She used the N word, I mean you crazy. Third day, three cats came over five o'clock in the morning. When you hauled.

00:23:07
Speaker 2: Trucks, ride the trucks, then ride a truck.

00:23:13
Speaker 3: I had to be three two Leslie's I'm hot, move all my stuff in and while getting the last few pieces, she woke up.

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Speaker 2: What's going on in here? Baby?

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Speaker 3: You remember I called you four days ago. I said, we are moving to La. She hit me with that in word, nigga, you crazy. We never talk like that.

00:23:46
Speaker 2: See I'm moving.

00:23:48
Speaker 3: Well what about us?

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Speaker 2: I call you, I told you we are moving. You hit me with the inward.

00:24:02
Speaker 3: Is that the last piece?

00:24:03
Speaker 2: Man? Let's go going to La as it?

00:24:10
Speaker 3: Man?

00:24:11
Speaker 2: That was my move got to LA.

00:24:14
Speaker 3: I didn't know where to go, but it ended up on Crescent Hikes right before sunset.

00:24:21
Speaker 2: That's right. And the ship man yeah right now, they were Yeah.

00:24:27
Speaker 3: I was coming out of the building, somebody say, Benjamin right, nobody knows me here, you know, but you know studio kids. Yeah, And it was a guy named Micky Stevens.

00:24:41
Speaker 2: You ever heard of.

00:24:44
Speaker 3: Mickey was the vice president of Motown.

00:24:48
Speaker 2: And still is.

00:24:50
Speaker 3: Mickey Stevens.

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Speaker 2: Then, hey Mick, what's up? What are you doing this? They just moved here. See how God works.

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Speaker 3: I have no money. I'm sorry. I mean he would all this intelligence. I didn't have any funds. Okay, he said, you have got to be the Temptations music director. I didn't want to be anybody's music director. I had been to Dell's music director and whatever. I knew that figuring me, I'm just being Benjamin. Hey man, I don't be no mondfucking Temptations music director. I ain't got no money, but I didn't want to be no Temptations music director. It took about a month for me to finally come to the conclusion, your ass is broke. I took the Temptations job. What a job because the Temptations had their music director, had lost all the music. Oh and at that particular time, everybody they had an orchestra. Okay, I took the job, which meant I had to rewrite the book. No problem, I could do that. That's a pischy cake. We wrote the book and they talked to Temptations, talked about me like a dog. Excuse expression little young motherfucker. Okay, and I'm talking more shit than them. You motherfuckers couldn't even go to work without this, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know.

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Speaker 3: And they man wrote the book. And then finally the Temptations had to go to Detroit. And everybody's heard about Tim's got new music directed, so go there and they introduced me to everybody. When there was an old man sitting in the corner, and it took me over to him. All attempts to me, said, Pops, let me.

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Speaker 2: He said, I know who that is. I've been calling him and he had but.

00:27:20
Speaker 3: Driving from Chicago to La no communication.

00:27:25
Speaker 2: He's calling your old house.

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Speaker 3: Sure, hey, man, that was Charlie Atkins, if you would look him up in the in the book, it was a dance duo call Atkins and Cole tap dancers. He took me on his wings and made me his son. Them there's another world. I saw a whole other world.

00:27:53
Speaker 2: Whatever.

00:27:54
Speaker 3: But he introduced me to a lot of people, and I began writing for everybody. My charts was off the chain.

00:28:05
Speaker 2: And then he died.

00:28:09
Speaker 3: And I was stuck out there by myself in Detroit.

00:28:12
Speaker 2: Now you're in Detroit, you're in that light now you're still like I.

00:28:16
Speaker 3: Just went to to do tim but I think Jimmy Carter had just became president. And there was a group in a Atlanta call Gladys Knight and the Pips. Yeah, yeah, I got tuned onto Gladys Night and the Pips, and that was Gladd's what thirty years.

00:28:44
Speaker 2: Thirty thirty.

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Speaker 3: I wrote a lot of music, a lot of music, but then my name was really getting out there. I was per se hot, yeah, writing for everybody.

00:29:04
Speaker 2: Then against so I became cheesy beggar.

00:29:09
Speaker 3: I only write where I want to. Yeah, yeah, you know it's nothing wrong with that. Yeah, can relate. Yeah, And then you know, all of a sudden, pockets look like footballs.

00:29:23
Speaker 2: You know what, you know what I need a couple of footballs, man.

00:29:29
Speaker 3: You know, because I was I was waiting to hear out you got that Rose Royce because I well I saw she knew.

00:29:36
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah that's all she knew.

00:29:38
Speaker 3: Because the driver Rose Ruashi, I just gotta look like football like well.

00:29:45
Speaker 2: I was rolling.

00:29:46
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah that's well. My kids didn't know any difference.

00:29:50
Speaker 2: You know, He's just go jump in the car. Yeah, car is a car. Yeah that's that's all I meant to them. Uh uh. They later learned.

00:30:04
Speaker 3: It's a rose rice right, don't don't spill nothing back. Then I have to say my kids are wonderful. Oh, my kids are wonderful. Okay, uh, but that was happening. I left Gladys and she she she didn't handle that well, calling me all the time, Dan, would you do this?

00:30:36
Speaker 2: No, you do this.

00:30:40
Speaker 3: Finally she called and said, would you do the Nobel Peace Pride?

00:30:49
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm, I said, okay.

00:30:55
Speaker 3: She wasn't introducing me to anything because I had already been to the Nobel Peace Prize.

00:31:01
Speaker 2: Okay, hello, hello, you know what I'm saying.

00:31:07
Speaker 5: Yeah, actually we don't know what you said. We've never mentioned, but you know we go. Yeah, Nobel Peace Prize that's also Norway.

00:31:18
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, noway on us right now. It's cool, go ahead. You're making me feel very well. See outside of the Road with the champagne Yeah yeah.

00:31:33
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, the tout that actually got popstacles and shit in the back of the road.

00:31:39
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, a lot of control.

00:31:41
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's okay, man.

00:31:43
Speaker 2: Yeah.

00:31:44
Speaker 6: Yeah.

00:31:45
Speaker 3: Blessed, that's what I call it, blessed, blessed, and from that God has been on my side because I've never been out of work. The only thing I'm gonna use a because she is here. The only thing she knew is Dad is always back in his little office, put notes on the paper.

00:32:10
Speaker 2: I'm busy. I'm busy, busy. Then my little office been turning to studio and then a bigger studio. And my studio is bigger than this room. Mm hmm. So much for this consopt. I have a real console. You don't hear you? They got a real console. What you got, ye? What you got? And what's what's that guy.

00:32:39
Speaker 6: Got?

00:32:39
Speaker 3: Mean?

00:32:40
Speaker 2: What you got?

00:32:41
Speaker 1: Oh?

00:32:41
Speaker 2: No, that's kids, kids shit.

00:32:45
Speaker 6: Uh.

00:32:47
Speaker 3: I can't call her name at the moment, but it's just everything has just been growing. God has just been pouring blessings and blessings and blessings, blessings, lessons, and I'm just so so grateful, so grateful. I've been looking forward to this because well, that's just is dad. She doesn't talk to me like that. She talks to me like I'm about I'm a three year old.

00:33:19
Speaker 2: Dad. This guy's want to meet you with you, okay, ma'am? Mm hmm. So today I'm here, Yeah, and I'm happy about it. I'm happy about it. Were happy to have you.

00:33:34
Speaker 3: Yeah, I met some wonderful cats since i've been here.

00:33:40
Speaker 2: Piece of cake. Let me ask you a question, Yes, sir, your style of arranging.

00:33:48
Speaker 1: You know, a lot of us came up watching admiring somebody who Who did you pull from the arrangers that you you you heard when you were growing up and the music that you were listening to.

00:34:00
Speaker 2: What gave you your like, your style?

00:34:05
Speaker 3: What's your brother's name? His name is Edward Kennedy Ellington. That's Duke Ellington's name. Well, I met mister Ellington and I think I stood there with my mouth open. It's like, oh my god, this is Duke Ellington. Yeah, I ain't even Quincy. I've been working with Quincy, but this is Duke Ellington to talk to me about twenty thirty minutes. And he died maybe a month or so after that. And there was no question that whatever this child is, the wife was pregnant, it's a boy. He's going to be named.

00:34:55
Speaker 2: Duke Ellington. So that particular son, his name ed Would Kennedy Ellington. Right, Wow, that was my idol. Yeah, it's my my idol. Okay, slip through, cool.

00:35:16
Speaker 3: Ladies, man, smooth talk ship all the time. I think that's where I got mine from.

00:35:28
Speaker 2: I did what what an idol for me?

00:35:34
Speaker 3: And you know my countbation whatever. I knew all the Cats. I knew all of all of the big time, the big band cats. So I can't help you if you ask me.

00:35:48
Speaker 2: Who I took after the cats?

00:35:52
Speaker 3: You name maybe like the sound of Philadelphia whatever? And what's the catch name out of Philly. And it's amazing because when they was Cats was describing something and they said they called it his name and he said.

00:36:14
Speaker 2: He said.

00:36:17
Speaker 3: Benjamin right, Oh, the boogie Wonderland guy. So all of the heavies knew me about from from music. Yeah, and they were giants. Yeah, but maybe I was a giant too. I didn't know there was writing.

00:36:37
Speaker 2: God.

00:36:38
Speaker 3: God just touched me. Man, I'm still writing to this day, to the day. I don't know. You might have some ship up your sleeve, but I've been blessed.

00:36:53
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

00:36:54
Speaker 1: I mean, as you say, giant, you you would have had to be a giant. Quincy Jones caused you or one of the most important projects of all history.

00:37:05
Speaker 3: But it wasn't the most important then. Michael Jackson was important, but he hadn't.

00:37:15
Speaker 2: Done any kind of music like what we did. Well. It was also.

00:37:22
Speaker 1: It was extremely important for him to be successful at that moment in time.

00:37:30
Speaker 2: He needed that in a real way.

00:37:34
Speaker 3: Okay, but he had Quincy Jones and then he had you well when she brought me in. But Guency didn't know what he was getting.

00:37:45
Speaker 2: But think about that though Quincy isn't a arranger himself, right, oh yeah, superstar. Right. And then but he calls Benjamin Wright yes to say help me with X, Y and Z. But he didn't do any writing.

00:38:01
Speaker 3: Quency didn't write one note after I came under scene. He didn't write one note. It's like Benjamin Hey, Benjamin Hey, Benjamin.

00:38:18
Speaker 2: Film. That was it?

00:38:20
Speaker 3: Could he write? Yes, unbelievable writer. But he fell in love with how I did whatever. Yeah, and that was it man up until he died. Mm hmm, I loved me some Quincy Jones. It's a bad cat.

00:38:43
Speaker 2: Cat asked her about the Bars and your time with them and the records that she worked on and wrote with them.

00:39:00
Speaker 3: Dubon du Bones was doing an album and Irish Gordy called me in. Mmmm, I don't fun put these old hulus oh Man, super hudos. Uh. They used to fight people song was to fight. It didn't bother me because I'm always packing.

00:39:26
Speaker 2: Mm hmm, yeah yeah, yeah, he was gonna pop one of the big The whole family would jump on you. Yeah I heard, I've heard. I've heard. Yeah, I've heard. But not me. Yeah, not me. I never gave them the inkling.

00:39:56
Speaker 3: That I would be their next project. Yeah, I know, even with Bobby before there was the switch.

00:40:07
Speaker 2: No no, no, no, no, no no.

00:40:10
Speaker 3: I never worried about that. Uh it's a lot of times. That was the one that what motherfucker can I shoot today? That's where my head was. But uh, they were cool. They come to the house, they'll be very orderly, the whole bed. But then they go to the offices and the whole bit and they turn over tables and ship it's just hulums. But not with me, whom we didn't play that man and y'all made hits, Yeah, got hit. I did several hits with the barm and you pissed your kick.

00:41:03
Speaker 2: That's what I do. Yeah. So I just grew. I've been growing for years, just.

00:41:12
Speaker 3: Growing every year. I haven't been very active in the last year, but I've still done some work, you know, so I'm still working, you know. And then I don't know if you know that or not. But my darling daughter, Ashley, Dad, I got these guys. I'm going like, okay, what is this to tell me about your cats?

00:41:50
Speaker 2: Dad?

00:41:50
Speaker 3: You got to meet him, you know how fast she talks being the solemn old man that I am. I say, slomn old man because so everybody knows what's sam. I'm one birthday from eighty mm hm oh yeah yeah, I'm way up there.

00:42:09
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, and I'm still active.

00:42:13
Speaker 3: Talking ship mm hmmm. Clearly you do that well mm hmm. Okay, he's still packing most keep it on most. Okay, all right, all right, all right, all right, when you come to the house, I don't know if I'm coming over there.

00:42:34
Speaker 2: I got a fucking machine gun because the man mine with me too.

00:42:36
Speaker 3: I mean, I'll be respectful, but now I'm not coming over there without mind.

00:42:40
Speaker 1: I got it.

00:42:40
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I got a real machine gun. And I was in the war too. Thank you for your servant, thank you so, and I took it from the war. I'm gonna take this away.

00:42:55
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I took your saying man, so I never worry about anything.

00:43:02
Speaker 2: I never worry about somebody messing with my daughters and.

00:43:06
Speaker 3: My sons. And well we got a son. Your big brother, Freddie's a senior master chargeant in the army.

00:43:17
Speaker 2: And mister bluff.

00:43:20
Speaker 3: And if it's anything he wants to do is knock you out. That's his mentality and he's qualified. Yeah, yeah, but I've never been that kind of hoodom No, my days in Chicago and whatever.

00:43:41
Speaker 2: You know, I never played the gangster role.

00:43:47
Speaker 3: I was always qualified to do it. Yeah, but you know, I did music man all my life. God has blessed me to do music.

00:43:57
Speaker 2: And you didn't bring that into the music business with you mhm. But you did what it was in the studio.

00:44:04
Speaker 4: I'm about to say, I mean, because you know this music but is to make you. It'll make you go there sometimes it'll make you.

00:44:09
Speaker 2: Know what I mean.

00:44:10
Speaker 1: You have to remind people, hey, my money was due Thursday. Well I never had that kind of problem.

00:44:17
Speaker 3: Okay, I've never had that kind of problem, never had a collection problem. I think it's where's my money, that's it. And I guess because of personalities and a big you know, I was not somebody to deal with in terms of no, my music. My money was always there. I'm not trying to be threatening to anybody that's not me because my kids.

00:44:45
Speaker 2: Don't know me that way. Mm hmm, don't you know me. It's a nice man, That's that's true.

00:44:58
Speaker 3: Come on, tell the truth. Because I got nothing but love. Don't keep all of it. Actually, don't keep all of it. You know, you got a lot of brothers and sisters.

00:45:21
Speaker 2: Thank you. That's fine.

00:45:22
Speaker 3: But let me say something about Madam Ashley. She has opt to create her own way, which I'm proud of. I'm very proud of. She's somewhat independent. I say somewhat because I ain't loaning her no more money.

00:45:48
Speaker 2: But she knows how to be very frugriate. She can, she takes care of business. She's she's a hustler. I love it.

00:45:59
Speaker 3: Everybuddy in the household loves Ashley. Everybody and not just ship back and watch them all. She's gonna have a problem with the two logirls. She's definitely gonna have big problems because they didn't even they don't take nothing.

00:46:20
Speaker 2: He is gonna get you work, is what he's saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:46:26
Speaker 4: How do you how do you go from I mean Obviously, music is it, you know, it's it's it's going to get you through different things. But your career of like playing with James Brown all the way that years later writing.

00:46:43
Speaker 2: And arranging for justin Timberlake.

00:46:46
Speaker 3: First of all, I never wrote for James. I used to stand on the side of the stage, okay, and watch him. I used to stand on the side of the stage and watch his band rehearse. I knew the music director in the whole bed in the times when he had four drummers and all of that, you know, four drummers at the same time, at the same time. What James was in another world and and and he never made the rehearsals. The music director to handle everything. And I was a young cat stand inside the stage watching. And I remembered when James hired Fred Wesley. You know Fred, I don't trumball, Okay, okay, it's Fred Wesley. Fred used to play with a group called the Master Sounds. Fred played with Count Bassie, He played with Duke Ellington's serious.

00:47:54
Speaker 2: It's serious, real real player.

00:47:58
Speaker 3: And that was something that James Brown needed because most of the horn pleasant band couldn't read. Because just play may see or where heself couldn't read no charts. It's great soloists in a little bit. But James always had a music director who was sharp, rehearsal band or whatever. And I would stand on the side of the stage and watch, pay attention, pay attention. I learned a lot, a whole lot, and then I grew into that.

00:48:33
Speaker 2: But let me back up.

00:48:36
Speaker 3: They threw me out of high school at thirteen years old. It threw you out, threw me out. You didn't do nothing, No threw my black ass out. But I'm not back nothing. They just they just threw you out. You don't want your here. It's amazing. If you don't believe me, I'm just asking. Okay, let me say it again. They threw my black ass out. So when they threw you out, that's how you end up around the music.

00:49:11
Speaker 2: Well.

00:49:12
Speaker 3: I was playing with the with the high school band director's band. Okay, he had a little organ. I couldn't play with the ship. But my big sister had a piano, great big old piano, and my mother died in her early forties. My big sister became my mother, but she would always leave me instructions.

00:49:44
Speaker 2: Junior, don't get on my piano.

00:49:48
Speaker 3: I couldn't wait for her to leave home, and I called myself jamming, couldn't read. It was good, Yeah, like a gym on that piano. It got to the point where I knew I had to learn some music, and I stopped preparing. Then I remember in Chicago. Anybody here from Chicago? Okay, they had something on the news a few days ago about nine degrees below. I went to the Chicago Conservatory Michigan Avenue when it was nine degrees below.

00:50:40
Speaker 2: No car.

00:50:43
Speaker 3: And shoes were not qualified for that kind of weather, right, you walked?

00:50:47
Speaker 1: No.

00:50:48
Speaker 2: I caught the.

00:50:48
Speaker 3: Train and you know, the bus to the train and trained to downtown Chicago. The good thing is that the train let me off right under the school. But basically I had to fight that hog nine degrees below.

00:51:12
Speaker 2: I don't miss that. Let me give you this a quick story.

00:51:16
Speaker 3: I walked in there and they say, can I help you? I see, yes, ma'am. She said, Now this is a music school, I know, ma'am. Do you know any music? No, ma'am, but I'm willing to learn. So she looked at me. It's like wow, and she considered how that weather was outside. She said, okay, young man, follow me. She took me to the library of the Chicago Conservatory pull out of test and he said, oh lord, I know I'm not gonna make this, but God was on my side, and I wiped out that test in record time. Now I had been studying little books and whatever. I took it back up to her and the first thing she said, oh, you decided not to take it. I said, I took it. Let me see what you got. She started looking at the paper work. I didn't know the name of the songs in the little book, ma'am. I don't know the name of your songs, I say, but I can sight sing him. She perked up, like what, because let's take number one whatever it was.

00:53:09
Speaker 2: He didn't whatever. I read it conci sing number two, number three, number four. She said. Stop.

00:53:24
Speaker 3: This was a Thursday evening school was about to turn out Chicago Conservatory on Monday morning. I was a student from Chicago consulvantary tell me God couldn't make it work, absolutely, and everybody in.

00:53:43
Speaker 2: The school knew I was the new guy, and that was it. Man.

00:53:49
Speaker 3: Then the stupid band I was playing with decided that we should go to Europe.

00:53:55
Speaker 2: I didn't want to go to Europe. I'm in school.

00:54:01
Speaker 3: They weren't in school, but they could all sight sing and read a little bit.

00:54:06
Speaker 2: But they were all druggies.

00:54:07
Speaker 3: I never had drugs in my life, but there was a band packed my stuff. Went to Europe, and after about a year we fell out. Motherfucker.

00:54:16
Speaker 2: We get back to Chicago. Don't call me.

00:54:18
Speaker 3: Don't call me either, motherfucker. I'm like, guys, we need to stay together. See, I ain't have any money. So I come back to Chicago, and I took a gig at what's called the High Chaparral, which was the biggest black nightclub in Chicago. Started making money. Hired all of them, all the guys that were in the band wishing Yeah yeah, because they were broke.

00:54:44
Speaker 2: Hired everybody making money.

00:54:48
Speaker 3: Parkers look like footballs every day.

00:54:50
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah yeah. And how old are you at this time?

00:54:53
Speaker 3: I was still young twenties, but I was creating such a a big thing in Chicago that the word was getting to the West coast and spreading. I didn't like L, but I love the money.

00:55:18
Speaker 2: Fat Yeah, fat burgers in Chicago. You know, had in fat Burger in Chicago, you would have never came to L. No, No, they owe you some money. Yeah, burgh you some money.

00:55:31
Speaker 3: You know it's one down the street.

00:55:33
Speaker 2: Make sure he didn't have.

00:55:34
Speaker 3: But that's not the same. It is the one that was on Loss the Street, the street baby los Enica and Olympic. I think cross the street.

00:55:54
Speaker 2: That was it for me. I knew how to walk to there.

00:55:57
Speaker 3: Yeah, those fat Burgers had an you're parting in my musical career. I'm about to start eating fatback before I go to the studio. I remember I was with Taco Bell frutista.

00:56:10
Speaker 4: I don't even think they make those. You know why, I've been a Taco Bell at bit I work. Go Checksta's baby. When we was we was at our, it was it was a little little like slushy drink that you could get at Taco Bell.

00:56:22
Speaker 2: We used to go there. You know, they stay open late. We're in the studio late. Go there, get your tacos.

00:56:29
Speaker 3: Get you get you a little frutista, little strawberry frutista or something.

00:56:33
Speaker 2: Man, if you're doing this so it mixed up a little vaka if you're feeling it, if you're really feeling somebody, you know.

00:56:44
Speaker 3: No, that's something right there here.

00:56:46
Speaker 6: I am.

00:56:47
Speaker 2: I'm bout to turn eighty mm hmm. I have never had a drink in my life. Never had a drink.

00:56:54
Speaker 3: No, never drink, never smoked, never got hirt, I never wanted to. Music was on my mind and that's what I focused on all the time. You know, that's that's ship.

00:57:11
Speaker 2: That's it for me. I never had the off stuff, just just music. Man. That was. You know, I'm a church kid and alcohol was in the Bible.

00:57:26
Speaker 1: So that's kind of how what I wait, wait, wait, let me understand what you know, it's about to take it. Time just turned that water to wine. That was that was permission to partake.

00:57:38
Speaker 2: Amen. He said, don't be drunk with the wine in the world. But they man, I meane a little taste. Uh. Amen. I don't care what you said. I to church. I'm still going to church.

00:57:54
Speaker 1: You know they didn't they didn't switch the wine out for grape juice for a long time. You know, I used to be real wine for communion. You know, this doing remembrance of him.

00:58:02
Speaker 2: See, so you know, I don't want to go to that church. I don't want to go to my church. My church.

00:58:13
Speaker 1: It's cracking at my church. He thinks he's Bishop Cognac, Bishop Conjac man, Oh my god, we saving him one at a time.

00:58:24
Speaker 7: We saving him one edits Oh my god, where did you bring me to today?

00:58:35
Speaker 2: A good time? A good time? Mister right, Let me ask your question, said.

00:58:52
Speaker 1: As I look at your resume, brother, it is it is vast from from the people you've worked with to the awards that you've won. It's incredible. Is is there something that you feel like you haven't done yet, or something that you wish you had have done you know at a time that you might have turned something down or anything like that.

00:59:21
Speaker 2: I never thought of.

00:59:21
Speaker 3: Anything like that. Very few products I've turned down, if I turned them down because the money wasn't right. But I've been able to maintain a house whole full of children. That's heavy, Yes, sir, that's real heavy.

00:59:44
Speaker 1: We know.

00:59:46
Speaker 2: We got kids. How many brothers and sisters you have? Oh yeah, it is depend on when you asked my dad, but I'd say fourteen.

01:00:00
Speaker 3: Any of us brought up in the same household, now different ouces, different ouss. We need one sister, one brother. Smart parents recently, well not necessarily recently, but we had what ten eleven kids in college at the same time.

01:00:20
Speaker 2: She sh oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, what not?

01:00:26
Speaker 4: Only your pockets as big as football. Your money is as long as a football field, is what you tell?

01:00:32
Speaker 2: Well? Yes, because.

01:00:36
Speaker 3: Nobody needed yeah, and started off with her. She wanted to go to college.

01:00:44
Speaker 2: Mm hmm, okay, college is all around here. Late, Nope, no, she won't go away.

01:00:52
Speaker 3: We'll go away. I availed myself to get on the plane with her and we went to Hampton as you.

01:01:02
Speaker 2: Really well it would, I charge, we're looking for you. Yes, I did on that Diamond album. You just had your right, and your right was your right.

01:01:17
Speaker 3: I didn't know who outcast was. We had what four daughters in the house at the time. Andre Benjamin, who I didn't know, and showed up and the girls are screaming.

01:01:35
Speaker 2: What the hell is happening in there? And Benjamin, excuse me?

01:01:39
Speaker 3: Who the fuck is Andre Benjamin? By that time, he's walking through the door into the studio, submiss right, I'm Andre Benjamin.

01:01:49
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm Benjamin too, Let's get it straight. It was a nice cat.

01:01:59
Speaker 3: And he talked to me about doing a piece of music, but he wanted a Frank Sinatra vibe. And I think I remember the young man. You don't know nothing about Frank Sinatra, what you got, and this is what he had, some say.

01:02:19
Speaker 2: Atlanta, some saying New York.

01:02:24
Speaker 3: I'm waiting. He had nothing else.

01:02:28
Speaker 2: What the hell is this?

01:02:30
Speaker 3: Okay, that's when I started writing. That's the intro to what's the song below?

01:02:41
Speaker 2: Love Below? So you guys have heard.

01:02:52
Speaker 3: Lots of strings and whatever.

01:02:55
Speaker 4: M h.

01:03:03
Speaker 3: I had to say, Damn, that's one hell of an intro. Yeah, that's how the album opened. Uh.

01:03:11
Speaker 2: And I did I think what two or three more songs on that album? I don't know what they were, but it was cool.

01:03:22
Speaker 3: My music was cool, cool enough for Grammys. I think, Oh it went past Grammage, didn't it.

01:03:28
Speaker 2: Yeah? Do you know how many Grammys you have? How you lost count?

01:03:33
Speaker 3: I don't fancy she did that.

01:03:36
Speaker 2: It's quite a few. Yeah. But hey man, I'm just writing, you know what I mean? Just seeing.

01:03:46
Speaker 3: Check, yes, sir, And that's it. Yeah, that's it, and it's writing. We's a check check. One thing I can say is that I haven't been cheap. I haven't been cheap.

01:04:10
Speaker 2: I had to have the money. HiT's cost. It's cost. It costs. People didn't know that prior to it being right, right, But you have so many and you've done so much.

01:04:22
Speaker 3: I feel very confident about whatever it is doing.

01:04:25
Speaker 2: Absolutely, you know.

01:04:27
Speaker 3: So when I talk about my kids, Kisney shoes, Kisney shoes, Shoes' gonna put together some shoe money for the next time we need you on something. We're gonna put together some shoe money for you.

01:04:42
Speaker 2: Man. I hear that shoe money. Not necessarily big shoes, but.

01:04:52
Speaker 3: Just bike shoe money money. Yeah, yeah, dah, I'm down with that.

01:04:56
Speaker 1: What you got over there, Tank you know he's you know, eloquent on strings and horns. I do a little something with this this cassio ya where keep e flat? Another Benjamin Wright. We we've heard the stories and the tales of your wonders and your greatness from all over the world. You're world renowned, and the people want to know of all the music you've heard, of all the music you've made. They really want to tap into the mind, mister Benjamin Wright.

01:05:52
Speaker 2: We call this Picolo chief, your.

01:05:58
Speaker 6: Top ah, your top five, top fires, your top I would believes, NTO and song.

01:06:22
Speaker 2: We've got to know for you, b when on on this show, everybody want they want to know. Yes, no, don.

01:06:45
Speaker 6: You're t.

01:06:48
Speaker 1: F o.

01:07:03
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm. Be flat mm hmmm mm hmmm. Uh huh be flat bass, be flat bass.

01:07:19
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what you're plan Yeah.

01:07:22
Speaker 2: Oh you're going you're going perfect on me.

01:07:23
Speaker 3: Huh, Hello, I know what you're doing.

01:07:27
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know what you're doing, babe. See my m h m hm hm yeah, mm hmmmm h change something getting slick. It's testing me. It's testing me. Okay, who is your top five R and B singers?

01:08:08
Speaker 3: Mm hmmm mm hmmm.

01:08:10
Speaker 2: I have to go back. Okay, woman mm hm.

01:08:15
Speaker 3: Woman used to be at the house of in Van Eyes at the house yeah, woman, Johnny guitar watching you sure, Johnny guitar watching drove drove a stuts.

01:08:36
Speaker 2: Bear Okay. Woman had been oh Bentley huh yeah he did. And I had a.

01:08:48
Speaker 3: Roach yes yeah, yeah, yes you did. And the police is parked on both corners of the street.

01:08:58
Speaker 2: All night long. They think y'all doing something. Oh yeah, you know.

01:09:05
Speaker 3: And I have to have to tell woman, you can't bring all this dope in my house. Man, I just said it wasn't nothing, you got it. I just got it on you in the Bentley full of dope.

01:09:23
Speaker 2: Yeah. I never drank, I never smoke, I never got high. When but Johnny gets high.

01:09:32
Speaker 3: Johanny could tell Watson and Womack was off to change. It's like you got a trunk full of dope. Man, you can't bring that ship to my house, my kids and whatever here. Man, alright, all right, man.

01:09:48
Speaker 2: To tomorrow night, till tomorrow night. Right full of dope.

01:09:57
Speaker 3: But these were my friends, these these were my buddies.

01:10:00
Speaker 2: Yeah, we know a couple of those things.

01:10:02
Speaker 3: We get it, we get it. We got we got some mommies that you know, they like the party. They gotta have they got to have it. I don't know if they got a trunk for Okay, so we.

01:10:11
Speaker 4: Got we got. We got Bobby Womack, who number two? Who number two? R and B singers okay, male are female?

01:10:19
Speaker 3: Okay, let's take the spinners.

01:10:21
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm.

01:10:23
Speaker 3: And what's the lead lead sing the one that takes it the end?

01:10:28
Speaker 2: Every time I can't call his name. He died John.

01:10:35
Speaker 3: Well, no, John.

01:10:37
Speaker 2: They was just got on the scene three days ago.

01:10:41
Speaker 1: Bobby fit oh, Philip, Philip Philippe Win Yeah, Philip, yeah, yeah, yeah, throw he's scrolling, he's going yeah, Phelipe win Yeah.

01:10:52
Speaker 3: It's the bad singing. Yeah, we need three more heard to the great fun Motown Marvin Gate marvemy Gay, Yes, sir, thank you, sir, Yes, sir.

01:11:03
Speaker 2: Bad cat. That's what I'm talking about.

01:11:05
Speaker 3: Most people don't know Bobby in terms of him going into his gospel thing. Bobby was a church man. Yeah, and I got to my old running buddy when I was with the Temptations, Dennis Shedwards tennis. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Dennis said Wards, it's always locked mm hmmm, pow mhm and just don't hit the man no more.

01:11:44
Speaker 2: Let me sit laught. He was a lunatic. Don't look any I don't know any.

01:11:54
Speaker 3: Yes, you take nothing. It's like like three or four boxes at the same time. Good thing about it. That was my buddy, so I could get in trouble and not worry about it because then it's gonna knock them.

01:12:16
Speaker 2: It's coming through. Is that five now one more? We need one more, We need one more, one more?

01:12:23
Speaker 3: Sham Cook, Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a cold five. That's a cold five. That line up right there is tough.

01:12:32
Speaker 2: Sham Cook was in another world. Yeah.

01:12:36
Speaker 1: Your top five R and B songs. You can name your own songs too if you want to them. Just throwing it out there. You got some heavy tunes, heavy tunes Jack some smokers, smokers Jack.

01:12:49
Speaker 2: Well, I've done a lot of them. Yeah, you can name it.

01:12:52
Speaker 3: I just can't sit here and.

01:12:54
Speaker 2: Just run them off. We want to go and rock with you.

01:12:57
Speaker 3: Are we want to go with He was fine fun. Yeah, we're going boogie wonder Land boogie.

01:13:10
Speaker 2: Can we get Can we get somebody? All this love or dream? Which was all this loves waiting for you?

01:13:17
Speaker 3: That's the BArch Heads, Bobby, the barge was Hulu, not all.

01:13:24
Speaker 2: It was more. He was more chill. It was a kid. Yeah, but you said they used to jump on people. They did. As a family, they did. But Elder BArch was kid, laid back.

01:13:38
Speaker 3: But Bobby, some of the mother brothers, they're getting down.

01:13:42
Speaker 2: They jump on the booger Bear. Booger Bear, jump on bear. Is that a bad composed of Bookers? They just want to fight because Booger Bear is the scariest bead. Most high. I have never drank, never smoked, never been high. I don't play that. It was the Church War, the ro Hits.

01:14:17
Speaker 3: We got two more songs, Rock with you, Rock with you. All this loves love are a dream. If you want to throw that in there too.

01:14:26
Speaker 2: I wrote a onto me seller a bunch of million dollars selling.

01:14:33
Speaker 3: Grammys, my song, my song. Yeah, uh all this love is weirding for you a thousand ways you Yeah, okay, that's.

01:14:46
Speaker 2: For a slow wine. That's my joint Slow.

01:14:52
Speaker 3: Wine Anniversary is crazy too. You know social very good songs. Get so I did good music on him. You know what, you brought me over here as a senior citizen.

01:15:13
Speaker 2: We're just gonna use your songs. Yeah, we're using your We're using your We're using five of your records you named boogie and you put me on the spot because I've just done too much work. I can't. We got it, we got it, we got it. What's next? Yeah, what's next? Trying?

01:15:34
Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, we're making We're making a super R and B artist, right, and so what we're doing is we're grabbing pieces of artists from the beginning of time all the way up to now to make your super R and B artists. So you're gonna have to pick one artist, well, Jackie, no, no, jack You got to pick one artist for the vocal. You gotta pick one artist for the performance on stage, one artist for uh for the drip the styling of the artist, and then one artist for the passion of the artist, and then you got to pick somebody to arrange for that artist. So if you're picking one vocal to build your super R and B artist, what vocal are you picking?

01:16:24
Speaker 2: Who is it? Marvin?

01:16:27
Speaker 3: Yeah?

01:16:27
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like where you're going already, You picking one performance style on stage? Who you Pickingie Jackie Will Jackie Wilson love that you you're picking the styling of the artists. What that we got? You got on the two piece red right now? Who put who put that? Who put that ship on?

01:16:47
Speaker 8: As we say right now? Hmmm he used to put it on? Oh yeah, he was flying? Yeah, okay, so we got.

01:16:59
Speaker 2: Okay, the passion of the artists like the hardest, I mean, who means it from their soul? Sam Cook? Yes, sir, yes, sir, okay, all right.

01:17:09
Speaker 1: And last one, it is a special one for you. Who's gonna Who's gonna compose and do the arrangements and right for that artist?

01:17:17
Speaker 2: His name was like Benjamin Wright. Yeah, set me up, shut me up.

01:17:27
Speaker 3: Yeah.

01:17:29
Speaker 1: If they want to sales means and records, if they want to add in football pockets.

01:17:35
Speaker 4: I'm saying that from now from now, how you doing you know about pockets? Biggest football?

01:17:42
Speaker 3: I'm doing all right.

01:17:45
Speaker 2: Too much? I would do one. We got one, we got one more, we got one more section, more section for one more section. All right, but you got champ. Uh there is. I ain't saying no names. I ain't saying no names. I ain't saying no names. I ain't saying no names.

01:18:07
Speaker 9: Who he was?

01:18:08
Speaker 2: And who's win?

01:18:10
Speaker 3: What you did?

01:18:12
Speaker 2: Don't say she.

01:18:15
Speaker 9: Ain't saying no names? Yeah, yeah, amen, amen.

01:18:27
Speaker 4: So we had we had a very important part of the show. Will you tell us a story that's either funny or fucked up? Are funny and fucked up?

01:18:36
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. The only rule to this game is you can't say the names. Not a one.

01:18:44
Speaker 3: I'm I'm gonna name. Okay, okay, you Benjamin, right man, we die. You do whatever you want. I threatened to kick Zans on stage, all right, all right physically?

01:18:57
Speaker 2: Mm hmm? What punked out?

01:19:00
Speaker 3: Oh he didn't want it. He was a very decent boxer. Okay, legit, you ain't wanna fuck with me because that was a hoop.

01:19:13
Speaker 2: But why'd you want to whoop him? He said? Some funny ship. He wasn't having it. I didn't do much fighting, Yes I did. Yeah, I'm about to say, you can't cattle, can't take that back. I heard you.

01:19:29
Speaker 3: I heard you already take that back because that was always in some ship.

01:19:34
Speaker 2: Yeah, but she.

01:19:36
Speaker 3: Was a legitimate boxer and he tried to carry that everywhere.

01:19:43
Speaker 2: M m mmm, No that he ain't saying.

01:19:46
Speaker 1: No, Well, you said a name, We're gon we're gonna bleep out, We're gonna bleep out his name up, don'ta bleep out his name.

01:19:56
Speaker 2: That's what I said.

01:19:57
Speaker 4: This is this one, very legendary R and B singer, and yeah, tried to test you almost got his ass. Well it almost got it. Yeah, head blowing off.

01:20:05
Speaker 2: You have that thing on you.

01:20:06
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's probably why he said. You know what he said, I'm not gonna fight Benjamin. He's gonna probably shoot me on this dage.

01:20:15
Speaker 2: They play too much. He'd be playing. I always have a piece. I carried a piece I have.

01:20:23
Speaker 3: God has blessed me to back away to use it. I've been blessed God.

01:20:29
Speaker 2: Thank you Lord. Well, God has blessed us today for you to pull up. Period.

01:20:35
Speaker 4: We we really appreciate this man. This has been amazing for us. You're telling you your stuff.

01:20:40
Speaker 3: You buying lunch.

01:20:41
Speaker 2: Of course he's buying lunch. Were chipping in, Yeah, chipping in? We got lunch, all the fat burgers you want, all of that's what you're saying. We got some football podcasts over here about so.

01:21:01
Speaker 1: No, brother Benjamin, right, this is uh we we we thank you man, this is this has been legendary man, and it's ship. It's the reason why we hear all the work you've done. Thank you has given us a has given us a space platform, It's carved out a road for us to walk on. So we we thank you for your foundation, man. Absolutely, And and and I remember you said you were just making the music and and I don't think anybody had any idea that it would be what it's going to be. But I'm glad that we're able to and the people watching and all over the world are able to understand who and what you are in the foundation that you've laid for all of this, and that you're able to get your flowers.

01:21:47
Speaker 2: Man, we we we we love that. It's great. Thank you absolutely, ladies and gentlemen. I'm Jay Valentine and this is the R and B Money Pot Cast. The authority on all things R and B.

01:22:05
Speaker 3: They can't tell me nothing nothing. I had Benjamin Right hanging out today. They can't tell me nothing.

01:22:11
Speaker 1: The Benjamin Right, Yes, don't smoke, he got smoke with him all the time, and be right.

01:22:25
Speaker 2: Penciling in the right hand right. Don't put and don't put his business in the streets. Play the gentlemen. B. Mister Benjamin B.