Trump-Powell Firing Drama Rattles Markets; Senate Passes DOGE Cuts
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1) President Donald Trump said he’s not planning to fire Jerome Powell, and still managed to make it sound like a threat.
2) Republicans are set to succeed in their decades-long quest to end federal funding for public broadcasting after the Senate passed a $9 billion package of cuts derived from Elon Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency effort.
3) President Donald Trump said he would send letters to more than 150 countries notifying them their tariff rates could be 10% or 15% as he forges ahead with his trade agenda.
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Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, Radio News. Good morning. I'm Nathan Hager and I'm Karen Moscow. Here are the stories we're following today. Karen, we begin with the story that has had markets in a headspin, the White House pressure campaign on Federal Reserve Chairman Jerome Powell. President Trump reportedly floated the idea of firing the FED chair in a room with Congressional Republicans this week. The President says he does not intend to fire Powell, but an Oval Office comments heard live on Bloomberg Radio, he did have a caveat. I don't love anything, but I think it's highly unlikely unless he has to leave fraud. I mean it's possible, as fraud involved with the two point five two point seven billion dollar renovation. President Trump has had the renovation of the Fed's two main buildings is over budget and too lavish. Well. Nathan Bloomberg's and Marie hor Dern was in the Oval Office for the president's remark. She asked hibout reports that he waived a draft letter firing Powell before Congression of Republicans, your large. Republican lawmakers last night. No I talked about the concept of fire and I said, what do you think? Almost every one of them said I should. But I'm more conservative than they are. And it's unclear whether the President has the power to remove the FED share, but the pressure might not let up. Several of the President's aids, including White House Budget Director Russell Vode and Federal Housing Finance Chief Bill Poulte, are pushing to inspect the fed's renovation. Of course, Karen, you can expect that plenty of reaction will continue to pour into the possibility of firing the FED chair. Bloomberg's David Weston caught up with Bank of America CEO Brian moynihan. The FED as an independent agency, and they're meant to be outside the purview of the executive and Congress. They are called a task and are monitored and they're reviewed at all the things. But the really reality was set up to be inte petit, so that our central bank in America was indepetit. Bank of America CEO Bran and Moynihan's thoughts recorded by Massachusetts Senator and frequent Powell critic Elizabeth Warren. She tells Bloomberg the FED needs to remain independent. People in the Cabinet. People are serving in the administration, serve at the pleasure of the president. That is the structure. That is fine. Donald Trump wants to get mad at one of them and fire them, have at it, baby. But it's different for the FED share and that is why that office needs to be held by someone who is independent. For the full conversations with Elizabeth Warren and Brian moynihan, head over to the Bloomberg podcast channel on YouTube. Well Nathan. A few hours ago, the Senate passed about nine billion dollars in federal spending cuts requested by President Trump, including deep reductions to public broadcasting in four and aid and we get the latest at Bloomberg's Monica Ricks. The fifty one to forty eight vote wraps up a thirteen hour vote rama on the Senate floor, passing President Trump's request to cut about eight billion in global aid programs, including You Said, and another billion for the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, which supports public radio and television stations like NPR and PBS. Republicans Lisa Murkowski of Alaska and Susan Collins of Maine joined all Democrats in opposing the package. It now heads to the House for approval ahead of a deadline tomorrow before Trump consigned into law. Monica Rix Bloomberg Radio A. Right, Moonica, thank you now to the latest on the trade front. President Trump says he'll send letters to more than one hundred and fifty countries notifying them their teriff rates could be ten or fifteen percent. In recent days, the President's unleashed a barrage of tariff demands, informing other economies of new duties that'll kick in August first if they cannot negotiate better terms with the. US hey then. A new survey suggests a record share of American firms froze investments in China's trade ties worsened earlier this year. Fewer than half of the companies surveyed by the US China Business Council between March and May so they planned to invest in China in twenty twenty five. That's to draw from a eighty percent last year, in a record lo since the group began asking a similar question in two thousand and six. Karen, A major gathering of foreign policy professionals is underway in Colorado, But as Bloomberg's David Gurra reports, the Trump administration decided at the last minute not to allow senior Pentagon officials to participate. The Defense Department made the announcement one day before the Aspen Security Forum was scheduled to start, saying its values were not aligned with the administrations. Organizers had to cancel on stage interviews with combatant commanders at a conference that has traditionally hosted officials from Democratic and Republican administrations. Former Ambassador Nicholas Burns, who helps run the forum, address the Pentagon's decision in his opening remarks. We regret it very much. But here's our response, and we put out a statement you can all read it. Our door is open, obviously to the Trump administration. We want our government to succeed. Speakers will include officials from President Trump's first term, alongside advisors to president's Obama and Biden. In Aspen, Colorado, I'm David Gura Bloomberg Radio. All right, David, thank you well. President Trump also continues to face questions about his administration's handling of the Jeffrey Epstein case, but he says the focus on the late sex offender is a distraction. It's all been a big hoax. It's perpetrated by the Democrats and some stupid Republicans and foolish Republicans fall into the net. And the President says Attorney General Pam BONDI should release credible evidence in the case, but he says he knows it's a hoax. Other Republicans are still pushing for a transparency, including Florida's Anna Paulina Luna. I've always advocated for transparency, but I do think it's also probable, which is why we'd like to see the information. Where I think the American people deserve to see the information is that there was some tampering of evidence under previous Deputy Director's authorities. And Republicans have not given evidence of tampering or fraud in the case. Meantime, Bloomberg News has learned former FBI Director James Comey's daughter has been removed from her job as a federal prosecutor in New York. Maureen Comy worked on the Epstein case as well as the sex trafficking trial of Sean Diddy Combs. The circumstances around her departure are not immediately clear. Turning to markets now, Karen the s and P five hundred enters the day, near all time highs after whip sign yesterday on the FED News. Earnings continue today. A dozen companies in the SMP five hundred will be reporting, including Netflix. We get a preview from Bloomberg's Tom Busby. Thanks to the breath of its content, it's pricing power, it's advertising supported tier and password sharing crackdown. Netflix now has over three hundred million global subscribers, and new seasons of hits like Squid Games, Wednesday, Stranger Things and more will surely keep those subscribers paying up. But Netflix no longer reports subscriber numbers, so investors will have to look at advertising revenue from its push into live sports programming like WWE Raw and UFC events. Bloomberg consensus calls for revenue of eleven point zero six billion dollars earnix per share of seven dollars and nine cents. Tom Busby Bloomberg Radio. All right, thank you all shares of Archer Daniels Midland. They're down more than five percent this morning. The drop for the corn syrup maker. It comes after President Trump said Coca Cola has agreed to use real cane sugar in coke in the US. Time. Now for a look at some of the other stories making news in New York and around the world, and for that we're joined by Bloomberg's Michael bar Michael, good morning. Good morning Karen. We're hoping the heavy rains from earlier this week won't repeat itself today. In the Northeast. Bloomberg Media Religis Rob Carolyn has the latest. While we do have a frontal system headed our way, it doesn't look like we're going to have the right combination to produce flash flooding across a wide section of the New York City area or in southern New England like we had last week. There was some isolated flooding outside the District of Columbia last night, but just don't have the right ingredients. That's not to say that some of the thunderstorms will pass through the region today won't be able to produce heavy rain and localized flooding. It's just I don't expect as many wide areas as we saw outside of Boston last week, or around the Tri State area as we had earlier this week. I'm Rob Carolyn, Bloomberg Radio. Thank you, Rob. Israel is launching strikes on portions of Syria's capital, Damascus. The strikes on government facilities come after the IDF said it is protecting the Dreuze community, a minority population in Syria that also resides in parts of Israel. At the White House, Secretary of State Marco Rubio says the US is intervening. We think we're on our way towards a real de escalation and then hopefully get back on track and helping Syria build a country and arriving at a situation and in the Middle East as far more stables. Drew's leaders say the Syrian government violated the terms of a ceasefire, but Syrian officials refute that. A former commissioner for the nypd as sued current Mayor Eric Adams and three of his associates, accusing the group of running the police force like a criminal enterprise. Thomas Donlin briefly led the NYPD as interim commit Adams calls the accusations baseless and absurd. Global News twenty four hours a day and whenever you want it with the Bloomberg News Now, Michael Barn, this is Bloomberg Karen. All right, Michael Barr, thank you time now for the Bloomberg Sports Update, brought to you by Flushing Bank and here's John Stashauer. John, good morning, Good morning Karin. One hundred and fifty third Open Championship underway this morning and the early leaderboard fifty five year old Phil Mickelson is time for the ladies two hunder through nine defending chams Anders Schoffley just teed off. He's playing with John Rahm and the surprise US Open winner JJ Spahn. Next group has world number one Scottie Scheffler with Colin Morikawa and Ireland Shane Lowry, who won the Open the last time it was held at Royal Port Rush in twenty nineteen. The only other time it was held there was nineteen fifty one. It's a homecoming for Northern Ireland native Rory McElroy. Be here to see a lot of familiar faces, you know, even some of the every you know hole on the course has a different team of marshalls from different golf clubs, and then just to see people that you know I've met throughout the years right. There this morning was really nice. But yeah, it's it's really nice to be back and obviously very very excited for the week. Rory played this course when he was sixteen years old and he shot a course record sixty one. They have made it more difficult since then. His tea time today just after ten o'clock WNBA. It was to be a Caitlin Clark appearance in Brooklyn, but she missed her eleventh game of the season of recurrence of her growing injury. The Liberty beat the Fever easily. Breonna Stewart scored twenty four NBA. Bradley Beal a star in Washington, not so much of his two seasons in Phoenix, and the Suns bought out his contract. Beal is headed to now play for the LA Clippers. Headed to Washington to play for the Commanders. Veteran edge rusher Von Miller, now thirty six, not the player he was while in Denver. He got released by Buffalo Johns Stashanwer Bloomberg Sports Karen. Nathan Coast to coast on Bloomberg Radio nationwide on Serious XM, and around the world on Bloomberg dot Com and the Bloomberg Business app. This is Bloomberg Daybreak. Good morning, I'm Nathan Hager, turning attention now to our conversation with Bank of America Chairman and CEO Brian moynihan. Following the big banks beat on earnings, moynihan joined Bloomberg's David Weston to discuss the results, small business health, and independence of the Federal Reserve. Brian moynihan also offered his long term economic outlook. Let's listen in conservers. Pretty good when you go to small businesses. That's more of the question small medium sized businesses because the interest rate environment hits them harder because they borrow on lines of credit short term for a lot of their activities, and that rate went up substantially at anything about the If I'm a one hundred million dollar company, a fifty million dollar company here in North Carolina, and I'm engaging in the world finance, I'm importing goods and manufacturing them, further manufacturing, I'm selling them. You know, it got pretty interesting here trying to figure out all the trade and tariffs. So I think certainly on a tap X rate helps them, meaning the big beautiful bill passing and the tax rate. That's a very good thing. The alternative would not been good if their tax rates would change. A satisfactory resolution to the trade so that they can. Learn the rules of the road. Over the next thirty sixty ninety days and get their plans for next year put together, and I think ultimately they're gon We've got this satisfactory resolution on immigration and population growth, because the end of the day, when I'm hearing more from the construction companies, farming companies, and travel entertainment type companies, is I'm starting to worry about I'm starting to struggle with labor availability at any price, and that's that we got to make sure they have the workers because they will supply great service economy and continue to grow. One of the things you reported today was net interest income, which is really important to all banks, but particularly Bank of America, and just steady growth that you're showing in that how sensitive are you to the rates set by the Fed? If that comes down substantially, does that affect the Bank of America much? So embedded in our estimates. So we've told our the world that this quarter we had fourteen point eight billion dollars in that interesting income and that is the fourth straight quarter of growth and came off the floor last year. This quarter, when I was talking to you, was the lowest it's been. This quarter was a record in the company's history. And we're saying we're going to grow from that record to fifteen five to fifteen seven and two more quarters the third quarter and the fourth quarter. That embeds in it the rate cuts in the market that are expected by market. We don't we only show it that way. If you have rate cuts over above that, that would hurt that number, but it would still grow frankly and so and that the good thing about that is because the great loan of Positi growth seven percent loan growth four percent to Posit growth over the last year. That's in the system that's capitalized it. I mean, that's here. It doesn't go away. And as that continues to stay and we add to it, what you're starting to see is that sets us up great for next year for further ANII growth and further EPs growth. So this quarter was the trickiest quarter to get through because of you. Every year we finally got some ani growth, but you every year markets business doing strong sixpence gross is a little more robust. That'll get lined and then you'll see and I dropped the bottom line and it will set up for twenty twenty six. We dive the more growth. When you talk about twenty twenty six, one of the things we're going to have is all likely a new FED chair. There's been a lot of talk even today in Washington by the FED chair, and you said, you believe in an independent FED. But if in fact President Trump gets his wish, as is his right under law, to appoint a new chair who will be more in line with his views, he said he thinks the interest rate really squ at one percent or even below that is that good for Bank of America? Is that good for the economy. Well, let me make two things. One is you're absolutely right. And May of next year, the term the curve FED chair ends after being reappointed, and it's the right of the elected president to appoint the next successor and go through Congress. And I think in that dialogue around that there'll be a lot of dialogue about, Okay, how do you set interestrates? What do you think about interest rates? Because the FED is an independent agency and they're meant to be outside the purview of the executive. And the Congress. They are called to task and are monitored and they're reviewed at all the things. But the really reality was set up to be independit so that our central bank in America was independent. So I think no matter who gets in, they're going to look at it and have to look at the facts and make a decision, because if you drop rates too far, inflation may kick up and then you're gonna have to raise them back quickly. On the other hand, if you think the prior Fed has been slow to the lower rates, you might lower and faster. Our team believes that the Fed will lower rates in a second half the next year by one hundred basis points. No change until then because inflation is still going through the system. That brings the FED funds rate down closer to three, which they think is probably more of a long term rate and frankly, is more similar to what we had for most of American history. What's been unusual is the period after the global financial crisis, a very low interest rate structure. That is really not a good place to be, honestly. We rather have a higher interest rate structure, a little more inflation, a little more robust economic growth. So I think everybody asks me a little careful about keeping that engine going, because if this engine fails, a whole world fails. It's Bloomberg Daybreak, your morning podcast on the stories making news from Wall Street to Washington and beyond. 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