Bold Moves in Barbie Land

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Speaker 1: What's up, Patination, We're back from Joe.

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Speaker 2: I'm Serena.

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Speaker 3: Oh you stepped in.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well you pause because I felt like you weren't going to say my name, so I took charge of that situation.

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Speaker 1: It kind of feels rude to say your name.

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Speaker 2: How many podcasts do you think we have to do before we can stop introducing ourselves at the top.

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Speaker 1: I think we always introduce ourselves at the top the top of the show.

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Speaker 2: Really.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not like we like right now, we're rambling a little bit. But usually I think it's just like, hey, Joe, Serena, we're back, Okay, all right?

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Speaker 2: I like it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, how are you feeling?

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Speaker 2: I feel good. I'm still recovering from Cabo a little bit, still feel a little tired. Joe's got a beverage in front of him. I've got a gingdrill in a water, so I don't know if that tells you anything about the trip.

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Speaker 1: I actually told myself yesterday at dinner. I didn't tell myself. I told this to Serena that I'm not going to drink unless I'm by a body of water when it's hot out.

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Speaker 2: Did you say this to me? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Then they say that to you.

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Speaker 2: I don't think you said that to me dinner.

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Speaker 3: But anyways, there's a pool right here.

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, we're right by. We're actually at my parents' house in the suburbs that's out of Toronto right now, enjoying their backyard. We're in their poolhouse, which we've turned into our little podcast studio. We're here for family wedding and yeah, enjoying enjoying the Canadian life.

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Speaker 1: Before we recap this episode your Cabo trip. A lot of influencers and influencer trip. Anything you could share.

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Speaker 2: I mean, nothing, nothing too hot. I mean we were all out there for we all share a mutual agent, publicist manager Lori Krebs aka Laura kPr. A lot of people were like, what is with this? Yeah, I just plugg Laury. A lot of people are like, what is this like? Random crossover episode of Bachelor, Love is Blind and vander Pomp. That's why we're all together celebrating her birthday. And yeah, the host was really beautiful. It was a great trip.

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Speaker 3: Fun. Got a tan You did Britney's podcast?

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Speaker 2: Yes, I did Britney's podcast, so you can check check me out over there. Joe just cracked up in another drink if you can hear that on the mike. Yeah, so her podcast is when Reality Hits Okay, and if you want to hear more about the trip, you can hear about it there. But otherwise, let's get into the episode.

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Speaker 1: And you're going on your you're really partying because you're going on your bachelorette.

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Speaker 3: We'll talk about that next episode.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, next week, come back to hear about how my bauchler at trip went, because that's coming up. And I'm going to Vegas for my first time, which will be fun.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to the Cubs game though.

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Speaker 2: Okay, both, we're both busy, all right.

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Speaker 1: So recap of the episode, guys, all go. They're traveling ocean side California, which is San Diego.

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Speaker 2: And late to San Diego.

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Speaker 3: Have you.

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Speaker 1: I've been to San Diego. I've been to San Diego twice. I love San Diego.

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Speaker 3: It's really nice.

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Speaker 1: But actually people are going to disagree with this, but I for La over Sandy, like I take I take La over San Diego any daily week.

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Speaker 2: Wow. Wow, that's controversial. Sound off in the comments, guys, when do we think La or San Diego?

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Speaker 1: Okay, so this season so far I think it's been really good. One of the things that I've noticed that has been different this we haven't seen this in a while. I think the last time I feel like I've seen this was probably Claire slash Pacious season. The guys seem to be taking it very seriously.

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Speaker 2: So seriously, which on some level is good. You want them to take it seriously because there's an engagement at the end of this, but really really serious, like falling in love should be fun, like this process should. You should take it seriously, but you should also be enjoying yourself.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think I've heard more guys say this season like engagement, Like is he ready for engagement? Yeah, I'm ready.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of talk about if they're ready, if they're here for the right reasons, like right into the gay episode two. Now we're on episode three and like that tension is just building, and.

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Speaker 1: Honestly, we we need that though, because we need we need one of these leads to hold it down because it's been a minute.

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Speaker 3: You know, they keep calling.

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Speaker 2: Us, what are you talking about?

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Speaker 3: We need to stay together?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we need them to take it seriously. We need we need a relationship.

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Speaker 1: Calling us we were on Paradise, we're the beat team, but.

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Speaker 2: I will say, I mean, we're only on episode three, so like we'll wait to see till the end of the season. But like Charity might end up being one of my favorite bacherettes of all time. Like I'm cracking up that I would never say I would never, and honestly, you can go back and listen to me on other podcast. I don't think I've ever dropped that ball before. I really like her, Like she has made a couple of jokes and ims where I'm like laughing out loud, but like not because she's trying to be funny, Like, I just think she's got a great personality and she she also reminds me of a lot of like friends of mine and stuff, So I think, like I want to be friends with her, like Charity for listening to the like let's be best friends.

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Speaker 1: I so far agree with all her decisions, Like I think she's making the right decisions.

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Speaker 2: Me too, I agree too.

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Speaker 3: All right, So first off, what do we got?

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Speaker 2: We have one on one date with Bryden. Were you surprised that she took him on the one on one day after he's had like two weeks of controversy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I didn't think he was getting a one on one date this week.

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Speaker 2: I thought he would definitely be on a group date, but I wasn't. I wasn't expecting her to take him on a one on one date. And on top of that, I think she really.

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Speaker 1: Likes so Yeah, I do too, I think she really likes him. I thought, I'm with you. I thought he was going to be the guy that like she was into but kind of got dragged along most of the season on group dates then goes on like.

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Speaker 3: A two on one and goes home.

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Speaker 2: Totally That's what I thought.

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Speaker 3: But they do a helicopter another helicopter.

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Speaker 2: Were like, we got to start having a helicopter count for season, Like how many helicopters are they going to whip out on this show?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I wonder I wonder if they if they do, if they ever do a season now.

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Speaker 2: Like never, never will that happen?

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Speaker 1: Okay, but what's the main thing on this one on one day? They're having a good time. Bryden expresses that he doesn't know if he is ready for a engagement.

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Speaker 2: Does he say he's not ready for an engagement or is he more saying like, I don't know if this process is going to work for me, and I'm going to be ready to get down on one knee at the end of this, Like how do you I think that's exactly what he said, Okay, because those are two different things to me, like being like I am here, but like not getting down on one knee because I'm not ready for that. My life is one thing that's like, then why the hell are you here, which she even said that she was like, then what are we doing here? But I do think his thing is more that he's like, I'm a skeptic of the process and like can it work for me? And it's still early on, so like I do think it's fair for him to have those doubts, but like he's definitely got to be open about that with her, and he's definitely got to be willing to try.

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Speaker 1: I think his feelings are justifiable, I really do. The main thing is if you're going on a show like the Bachelorette or The Bachelor, we all know at the end you're supposed to get engaged if you're with the lead, So you have to be someone that is ready for a commitment, an engagement, a serious relationship. Now, if you get there and you're unsure or you don't know, like, is this the person I want to want to spend the rest of my life with. I think that's okay to feel that, and I think that's what's happening. I don't think he is. I mean, what do you think? Do you think he's someone that's like, yeah, I'm not right.

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Speaker 3: I just I didn't come on here to get engaged, because that's what a lot of people are saying.

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Speaker 2: I think he and like this is just an assumption. We don't know, but I would assume Bryden is like I'll go on and we'll see what happens. Like, I don't think he's the guy that's like I've got the house, I've got the dog, I've got the career, and I'm just missing that one piece.

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Speaker 3: Of my life. Okay, but didn't you do that? And didn't I do that?

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Speaker 2: Like totally totally. I'm not saying like that doesn't mean it can't work out, you know what I mean? Like I was young when I went on the show, but I was very open to like, like I when we went into Paris, I was like, I would love to find my person here. I was like really open to it and it worked out, But I wouldn't say I was, like, you know, at a place in my life where like every single piece of my life had been really established for a long time. I was. I was twenty two three years old and Braden's twenty four. But it doesn't mean that it can't still work out for him. I think his skepticism's fine, but like he's he's in a Yeah, he's larting with the line.

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Speaker 1: But Charity also, I think Charity understands where he's coming from.

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Speaker 2: As of now, it's not scaring her, like she's definitely like they did the cute little baseball gesture, which I thought was really cute. They are very like playful, and she did say, like I wrote this down, she wrote, she said he's gonna try. We will hold him to that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And I think that goes to show you, like she like you said, she really likes Braiden, like there's no doubt about it. Yeah, she is. Like it's kind it's kind of similar to the Hannah Brown Luke Luke p situation, except I don't put.

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Speaker 2: I don't think Luke and Bryden are on the same field. But yes, I get your comparison.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So that.

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Speaker 1: Ends and he ends up getting a rose. So he's safe. He's been open, honest, but he's.

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Speaker 3: Flarting with the line.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's flirting with the line and like it's gonna go one way or the other. Either he's gonna be like, honestly, I'm I'm falling in love with you. I'm throwing my concerns out the window. I'm all in. Or he's gonna get sent out for this.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 2: So now we have Barbie Group Date.

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Speaker 3: Barbie Group Date.

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Speaker 1: The movie's coming out with Ryan Gosling and Margot Robbie.

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Speaker 2: I'm so excited.

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Speaker 3: Are we going to see that? We are?

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Speaker 2: It comes out the same day as Oppenheimer, So I really want to see I know, I know, But Barbie's gone above and beyond with their marketing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well they just marketed on the Batcheler and we have a Barbie Date. We have Jojo and Jordan there to host it, which they great hosts.

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Speaker 2: They're a really great host, like ten out of ten. Very professional. I love watching them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, super professional. I really yeah, I agree. Okay, so then they all are singing, so they have to dress up like Ken's Yeah, you're the fashion fashion person on the show. Yep, any any Ken costumes stuck out to you?

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Speaker 2: I really liked Dowton's astronaut costume with the blonde wag. I thought it was funny and memorable and adorable. I thought that Sean literally looks like Ken, like he was in the denim on denim, and I was like, you could play Ken and like a movie.

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Speaker 3: He's just Timberlake in the all Dad.

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Speaker 2: He's wearing the Canadian toxedo.

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Speaker 1: He is, he does. He looks like a boy band. He should boy band member. He should reach out to Kenny and get something going.

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Speaker 2: Literally real literally, And then I obviously cannot forget to mention John as birthdays you Ken. That was shocking and concerning and hilarious and I loved it. Was literally like a full like Onesie. He looks like a baby, like like a sour patch kid doll.

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Speaker 1: I thought they're all naked.

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Speaker 3: That was the creepiest life.

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Speaker 2: It was so creepy. It was so creepy. But like respect for John for how you handled it.

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Speaker 1: Not to throw us off, but do you think she's into John? Because John was somebody that you thought would be in the Top four.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I think and like, I want to see more of John. I was actually hoping John was going to get a one on one this week, but I'm rooting for him next week. I still think he's gonna go far. I still am like holding out hope for him in my top four. I'm wondering if it's more of a friendship. I was gonna say friend than a romantic connection. But we'll see. Friendships can turn into romantic connections. You never know. But I still like and I think she likes him, but I yeah, I've yet to see like some serious chemistry there.

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Speaker 1: I agree, I agree, but he's very likable.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he is very likable.

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Speaker 1: So then we have Sean makes a power move makes out with her witch. We're seeing through this season Charity respects somebody that she loves it.

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Speaker 2: She loves it. I actually I would. I was like surprised that she was, like, good for you, dude, grab me and make out with me in front of everyone. I don't care. Yep, I couldn't because I thought Dawnton did a really cute job of like grabbing her and pulling her up on stage, like saying to her, like including her in his performance and kind of creating like a special moment. Sean was just like, get over here, Charity, let's stuck face in front of everyone. She was like, I'm down for.

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Speaker 1: That, which is what you have to do when you're competing against twenty five guys and you got to make the move. By the way, after the role ceremony, I was shocked at how many guys are left.

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Speaker 3: Where are all the guys?

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, there's no one there for episode three and there's like ten guys left.

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Speaker 3: The season's over.

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Speaker 2: We're okay, But we've also been saying like they're being very obvious in my opinion with who are her like main dues, Like you're either getting a lot of screen time or you're not getting any screen time in terms of like showing off their relationships with Charity. Yeah, for sure, But I think she did start with only twenty five guys, so it was a smaller.

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Speaker 1: Group, which I like me too. By the way, my dad has called me three times and he's texting me.

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Speaker 2: I was going to say, your dad just texted him, Just ignore him.

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Speaker 3: Now he's gonna get mad at me for that too.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So after the date, all the guys are. This is where Charity chooses who's gonna get the the group.

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Speaker 2: Date Rose, Yeah, well no, Sean got a little like extra side time before the cocktail party. Is that what you're talking about?

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Speaker 3: Well, we're getting there right, Yeah, we're.

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Speaker 2: Not on the same page in this moment. The group day Rose is like way later on, like after the cocktail party. Oh okay, So she gave out like a little special one on one time and then they went to the cocktail party.

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Speaker 3: Fair, Okay, go ahead, let's talk about that, okay.

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Speaker 2: So basically she says, hey, Sean, thanks for making out with me on stage, Let's go do it a little more on the side one on one time, rewarded him for like stepping out making her feel special. She definitely is a girl that likes it when a guy makes it known how he feels about her and like shows it off, which I can respect that.

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Speaker 3: Oh, Caleb B.

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Speaker 1: Caleb B was like the guy he was singing, I wrote in my notes, but can he sing question mark?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: He definitely approached that with a significant amount of confidence. So I'm like, oh, this guy's like a country singer on the down.

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Speaker 3: Low, me too, That's what I thought that was not.

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Speaker 2: What he gave off with his performance. But you know, he had some notes, he had some types.

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Speaker 3: But I do like him.

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Speaker 2: I like him. He wore a bright not bright. He wear a printed floral suit to the Rose ceremony of this episode, and he was like, I love a risk taker.

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Speaker 1: He, in my opinion, is a one thousand guy. Like I'm watching, Yeah, this guy is going to be on Paradise. He's not going to end up with charity.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, I don't think anyone's thinking he's any up of charity at this point. But I would love to see him on Paradise. I feel like he's got way more of a personality than we're seeing. Yeah, okay, let's jump to the night portion of the group date.

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Speaker 3: Okay, thank you, you're welcome. Thank you.

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Speaker 2: So Sean comes in. He comes in singing his Ken song as his entrance because he's like the last one to come in. Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I mean that, like, listen, I'm not that type of guy that's going to show off, show off and walk in and start singing right away.

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Speaker 2: But like he's trying to stir the pot, you know what I mean. Like Sean is trying to stir the pot.

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Speaker 1: I don't like. All the guys were extremely serious and they saw like Sean made a move immediately when she walked in and pulled her, and all the guys are like, that's bullshit, like you got extra time you crushed on the date, Like why would you do that? That was selfish? But he's out for himself right now, which he kind of should be.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I look, it is selfish. And if I was on that group date, I'd be like, it's not the classiest move, Like you just got extra time with him. Sorry, you just got extra time with her. Now you're coming in, you're stealing her right again, Like you could have waited one hundred percent, Like I wouldn't do that. But the guys that are staying there being like Sean just pulled her and now I'm going to go home because of that. You're not going home because of.

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Speaker 3: That, And you could have also stepped in.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely absolutely, And yeah, I'm just like this is just how it kind of goes.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of shame on them.

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Speaker 2: Well you're gonna believe with every other guy.

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Speaker 1: Well, what I'm saying is like, hey, listen, like, if if you are gonna be upset. Like, I agree, it's not a classic room. But if you're gonna be upset that he did that, you should have stepped.

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Speaker 2: In, yes, because there I would be like, you know what, that sucks, but like, that's not who I am. I'm just not going to be that person that steps up and grabs right away. So I just got to own that. Yeah, and hopefully I'll get some time with her later.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, but doesn't even matter for Sean because she ends up taking Dotton to her bedroom.

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Speaker 2: So I just couldn't believe how much they were Like, Okay, so the group dates downstairs, but me and Dotton are going up to my bedroom right now.

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Speaker 1: I wrote in my notes that Charity likes all the other guys but loves Dot.

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Speaker 3: I wrote she's lost when she gets lost when she looks at him.

00:18:04
Speaker 2: She gets lost. Looks she does like it's like she gets lost in his eyes. That's what you wrote down.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the convert in my opinion. In my opinion, the conversation with Dotten and her, it's like I just I see and feel a shift in her.

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Speaker 2: No, they're like so they're like soul made, Like I truly believe they have the most powerful connection out of anyone on the show. I agree, Like it's beautiful. It's really beautiful to watch. And if they don't end up together, I'm I'm gonna be crushed.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Like, and they've made a point of showing us as viewers and telling us that she has basically created a private special environment for him on every single occasion of every episode, every single episode so far, she's like, Okay, guys, me and Dotton are going upstairs now, which like, good for you, get your time. I love it. I love that she's making feel special.

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Speaker 1: It's basically like all the other guys, like you compete, Dot, you don't.

00:19:07
Speaker 3: You got you got my number? Hit me up.

00:19:10
Speaker 2: Wait until Charity or Dotton are on the podcast, Like I can't wait to talk to both of them. Yeah, I just I'm so infatuated with their connection.

00:19:21
Speaker 3: Okay, so Dottan ends up getting the rolls, which.

00:19:24
Speaker 1: Shocker, Well you don't.

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Speaker 3: Honestly, though, it could have been shown.

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Speaker 1: She could have could you could have been shown like he did step out, he made some moves, but let's face it, Charity is not at the Shawn.

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Speaker 3: I think she respected the move. I just don't think she's in Okay.

00:19:40
Speaker 2: Next day, next day we're on too, our guy Warwick. It was a rough, rough one on one date.

00:19:50
Speaker 1: If we're awkwardly silent on this right now, that's because that's what the date was. Was very and I'm I'm an awkward person. But I watch said I was like, this is.

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Speaker 2: Do you think they made it look worse than it was or do you think they actually probably made it look better than it was?

00:20:07
Speaker 1: I would say, I mean, it's TV, so you never know, like it could definitely.

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Speaker 2: I feel like it was more awkward than what we got to see. Like I feel like, based on Charity's interviews, like it was truly very uncomfortable and there was just nothing there.

00:20:25
Speaker 1: Well you see when he's going home the producers asking you questions, he's just like falling this.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, He's like night, I'm done, which I kind of like, all right, you know what, Yeah, I mean you're you're done, your job is done, You're off the show.

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Speaker 1: I'm kind of glad though, like that he that was him throughout the whole thing, Like I'm glad that, Like at the end he was like, oh, like I really liked her, Like he was like like that would have never worked.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I like that too. I like that too, like at least he owns who he is. Yeah, but there was no chemistry. He's a beautiful looking man and they would have made a gorgeous couple, but just nothing between them. I also couldn't believe that they made them wear black tied with the carnival. I would have been so mad walking around in a gown and.

00:21:06
Speaker 3: Heels the tuxedo. Yeah, that that was rough.

00:21:09
Speaker 1: I was like, this is the opposite, like he really should be in shorts and the tank time.

00:21:14
Speaker 3: Yeah, but like, hey, you know what, there was zero connection there. We all saw it.

00:21:27
Speaker 2: So at least they looked good.

00:21:28
Speaker 1: I don't think either of them were upset about him going home.

00:21:34
Speaker 3: And that's what it is.

00:21:35
Speaker 2: It is what it is. Do you think we'll see him in paradise?

00:21:40
Speaker 3: No?

00:21:41
Speaker 1: Do you No?

00:21:43
Speaker 2: I don't think so.

00:21:44
Speaker 3: I just I there's certain people that like in.

00:21:50
Speaker 1: Good for them, like rightfully, so like some people are just like just came through reality TV and.

00:21:55
Speaker 2: That's He also said to Charity that he was like hesitant to get into a relationship and she was like, what, like what are you doing here? That a lot not even an engagement, like a relationship.

00:22:06
Speaker 1: We always ask contestants that come on the show, like, hey, how'd you get on the show, Like, I'm actually.

00:22:12
Speaker 3: Curious how did Ward get on?

00:22:14
Speaker 2: I feel like he got like scouted or.

00:22:17
Speaker 1: DM of like, hey, you're you're pretty come on, come on the batterer.

00:22:22
Speaker 2: And he was like yeah, yeah, I feel like he was like sure, let's see how this goes. That he was just like, yeah, sure, we'll see how this goes with too.

00:22:30
Speaker 3: Many words, yeah, Like no, He's just like all right, you know, let's do it. Okay.

00:22:34
Speaker 1: So he goes home, no skin off, anyone's back there, like.

00:22:39
Speaker 2: No, he's fine, she's fine, everyone's fine. I don't think the guys were shocked, all.

00:22:43
Speaker 1: Right, And then now we have the drama. Now later this week we are going to drop our interview with Aaron B. But Aaron B is now kind of he's in the center of the drama because he goes up to Charity at the cocktail at the cocktail party saying that Branden is openly saying he's not ready for an engagement. He shouldn't be here. Basically, yeah, yeah, that's what he does. Yeah, kind of tells tells on Branden.

00:23:17
Speaker 3: How do we feel, you know, because the one thing.

00:23:22
Speaker 1: So I do feel like Braiden did say all this stuff to Charity, right. Maybe not, maybe he didn't articulate it the same way, but right, yeah.

00:23:37
Speaker 2: I mean correct if I'm wrong. I do think he's articulating it differently, but I think the overall message that he's saying to Charity and the guys is kind of the same. So it's like, I feel like he's so open with the guys to an example, because he's like, well, I've already told this to Charity, Like there's nothing that you can pull from what I'm saying here to tell her that I haven't already told her. Like he's been really open with all of his concerns with Charity. Yeah, And I just don't know if I feel like it's been going on long enough for this many guys to be running back and telling Charity. I will say, do you want to go first?

00:24:14
Speaker 1: Well, I am going to say well, because I'm going to say that I'm actually surprised that most of the guys in the house, and that's kind of a tell. Most of the guys in the house disagreed with Aaron. Most of the guys I was like, what are you doing? Yeah, like that that was totally unnecessary.

00:24:29
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I will say I respect Aaron for going back to Brandon and saying, hey, just letting you know I told her this because I hate it when the guys like rat on someone else and then they just like don't say anything and everyone's like who told her? Who told her? And they're just like hiding in the back, like wasn't me?

00:24:47
Speaker 3: Do do we think that?

00:24:48
Speaker 1: Because Braden was on this podcast and basically insinuated that him and Aaron were tight, did he insinuate?

00:24:56
Speaker 3: Yes, Yes he did. Yes he did.

00:24:59
Speaker 2: So maybe they get over this hub.

00:25:01
Speaker 1: No, no, no, I'm saying he's, oh, yeah they were tight until this went down.

00:25:07
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, so which listen, I don't know.

00:25:10
Speaker 1: I don't really agree with Aaron doing it. He said he's doing it to protect Charity.

00:25:16
Speaker 2: What do we think do you think Braiden's I think he's a little bit of both. I think Aaron b in his mind is like maybe he's a very protective person and does feel like, you know, the things that Braiden is saying should be told to Charity. But maybe Braiden's a little right too. Where he's saying like I've got a Rose once again. I got the first impression Rose, now I've got the one on one Rose. And maybe there's a little bit of jealousy and insecurity floating around on Aaron B's side. I don't know. I'm curious to talk to him more about it. Well, here he'll have like hindsight.

00:25:50
Speaker 1: Now he he's he's competing, he's competing for a woman. He's a competitor, and he saw it in to take out competition and he took.

00:26:01
Speaker 3: Advantage of it.

00:26:02
Speaker 2: Was he an athlete at all?

00:26:04
Speaker 3: He's in good shame.

00:26:04
Speaker 2: So you always curious to see if there's like innate competitive nature, like if he was like and I don't know, do you know what I mean? Like I find like people that are like high level athletes have that like intense competition within them that you might see him out and shows like this more.

00:26:17
Speaker 1: I think on this show, like in general, unless you're somebody like Warwick who just truly doesn't give a fuck, it's very hard not to get competitive once you're there, because then you're like.

00:26:31
Speaker 3: You're wrapped up in it. It's so easy to get read.

00:26:34
Speaker 2: Totally. No shade on him if he was feeling competitive in that moment.

00:26:39
Speaker 1: So we get we go to the Row ceremony. Now that you know it's it's being thrown out there that potentially Brandon's going to get his rose ripped off.

00:26:50
Speaker 2: Yeah, She's like, I will pluck that off your chest, which I loved.

00:26:53
Speaker 3: Did you think she was going to do it?

00:26:54
Speaker 2: I did not think she was going to do it, but I wanted her to just because it would have been exciting to watch.

00:27:00
Speaker 1: Yeah, And honestly, at this point, I know Braiden's definitely getting a lot of hate, Like there's no.

00:27:05
Speaker 3: Doubt about it.

00:27:06
Speaker 2: I have a love hate relationship with him, genuinely, I do, because he is in this gray area of like, you know, he's walking a tight rope of like is he totally off the deep end or does he kind of have some validity in what he's saying. Yeah, and he's just having this like different experience than the rest of the guys.

00:27:23
Speaker 3: Yeah.

00:27:24
Speaker 1: I think I think Branden's fault is he's talking about he's too open about what he's feeling in the moment to the guys.

00:27:34
Speaker 2: Yes, he put a little bit of a filter.

00:27:37
Speaker 1: On, Like what you're saying to Charity is great. She doesn't really have an issue with it. She's keeping you here. Stop talking to the guys, abouhind, that's where the problems going.

00:27:49
Speaker 2: I don't think I ever talked to the girls in my season about my relationship like at all. And I feel like that keeps everyone's relationships protected the most.

00:27:59
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure.

00:28:00
Speaker 1: Like, and that's honestly, if you if you're listening to this podcast and there's a chance that you're going on the Bachelor Bachelorette, keep keep shipping yourself.

00:28:10
Speaker 2: It's your business, it's not their business.

00:28:12
Speaker 1: And like you could see the guys that there's there are some front runners for sure, totally dotten Joey, Aaron b Aaron B.

00:28:21
Speaker 2: Bryden, maybe Exavier No.

00:28:23
Speaker 3: I wouldn't. Yeah, but like I'm not.

00:28:26
Speaker 2: Let's expere Joe doesn't agree.

00:28:28
Speaker 3: Let's exclude Breading out of this.

00:28:30
Speaker 1: The stronger front runners, in my opinion, are kind of staying for themselves.

00:28:34
Speaker 3: But you see that.

00:28:34
Speaker 2: Every year someone that goes to the lead and tells on another dude. I don't think has ever ended up engaged at the end of the show.

00:28:43
Speaker 3: No, no way, I agree. I don't think they ever will either.

00:28:48
Speaker 2: And yeah, and there's a reason for that, because.

00:28:51
Speaker 1: You only get here's the thing. You only get so much time. I got Step saying here's the thing. I said all the time. You only get so much time with the lead. So if your conversation that you're getting is about someone else, that's an issue. Yeah, Like Gotten and Charity are not talking about anyone else except their feelings for each other.

00:29:11
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, because they're in love with each other. But I yeah, I think it's if you're gonna be the person that's like, I really really really need to tell her. Like we saw in Clayton season, a lot of the girls came to Clayton and talked about Sarah in the house, right, Yeah, And that was like way into the season and it had been going on for weeks to the point where these girls were like, we want to go home, Like that's how bad this has gotten. Yeah, then I get it, you know, especially and if the leads asking you, absolutely be honest. But Aaron Be made a risky move here by bringing this to Charity. I'm curious to see how it affects the relationship moving forward because Brydon is still here.

00:29:54
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I honestly, I think it was the bad move. But we have them coming on later this week, so we are going to ask him what he was thinking that did he regret it?

00:30:05
Speaker 3: We see clips for next week.

00:30:09
Speaker 1: Looks explosive, looks explosive, and from the trailer it looks like Aaron Be's the winner.

00:30:15
Speaker 2: Yes, right, it does.

00:30:17
Speaker 3: And as soon as you start threatening to beat someone up on the show.

00:30:22
Speaker 2: You cannot threaten violin. You shouldn't do it ever, But you're on a reality TV show, you cannot threaten violence.

00:30:32
Speaker 1: Yeah, unless you're Jamie Kennedy at the van of Pump Rules reunion.

00:30:40
Speaker 2: What a niche reference for you, at least not for the general population. But I'm shocked. I'm shocked right now what just came out of your mouth? James Kennedy. Also, by the way, it's not Jamie Kennedy, but that's okay. We're gonna let that one slide.

00:30:58
Speaker 1: Oh man, okay, you guys, I think we're gonna wrap this. We have Aaron B coming on later this week. Make sure you stay tuned in, make sure to subscribe if you're not already, because we're dropping our exclusive interview with Aaron B. And we're gonna hear more about a story later on this week, be sure to tune in and