2026-04-30- KSR - Hour 2

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Speaker 5: Welcome to Hour two of Kentucky Sports Radio, present it by Stockton Mortgage. Now here's Matt Jones.

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Speaker 5: I was gonna say Lane, but then I could already just foresee you going.

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Speaker 3: No, you don't well, I mean, I don't know a lot of their songs.

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Speaker 7: They're unplugged, Yes, absolutely.

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Speaker 3: Are they the ones that go man in the box.

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Speaker 7: Yep and Rooster and a bunch of hits.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so I can see that some old country everyone's vern Gosden.

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Speaker 3: That's as cool. That's a good one. Is the guy.

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Speaker 6: Floor, Yeah, he's got I can tell by the way you dance you're gonna love me.

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Speaker 3: Tonight.

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Speaker 8: I heard that song I know you're talking about.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Uh, he's also got one. What is it? This ain't my first rodeo. I'm a Vern Gosden fan, by the way.

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Speaker 6: I don't know if I've got to be the only person under the age of seventies that knows Vern Gosden, but I do.

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Speaker 8: I do like his seventies guys.

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Speaker 3: I think he's like forties.

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Speaker 7: Oh he's not that old. He's dead now?

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Speaker 8: But is he dead?

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Speaker 7: I believe so well it's not going to be after I mentioned.

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Speaker 6: Him, I'm missing, but I like Vern Gosden. What's his other one? I like a lot. This ain't my first rodeo. There's slow burning memory.

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Speaker 3: That's the one.

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Speaker 8: You gotta play that, Okay, all right?

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Speaker 3: Five nine to eight, oh, twenty to eighty seven. Let's uh.

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Speaker 6: People are sending me resumes of coaches that we would have hired at the time. Looking at it, I could see the case for Tommy Lloyd. I guess he had made two sweet sixteens. I think you had a hard time getting to leave Arizona, though, I mean North Carolina wasn't able to do it.

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Speaker 8: So he had already had success at.

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Speaker 3: Arizona at least he'd had one sweet sixteen.

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Speaker 8: I didn't think he was there that long.

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Speaker 3: But you'd had a hard time.

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Speaker 6: I mean, one of the things to think about for all these guys, like take Tommy Lloyd or even tj Otzenberger.

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Speaker 3: North Carolina tried to hire both those guys.

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Speaker 8: They didn't get you one of the can get you one of them.

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Speaker 3: So I mean, maybe we would have had more success than North Carolina.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but maybe the case that the days had just been able to go and rip whoever you want are not necessarily there.

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Speaker 8: And to be honest, we don't really know. Maybe Mitch Barnhardt threw a feeler out there to Tommy Lloyd, and Tommy Lloyd shut it down pretty quick, so we moved on to the next guy.

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Speaker 3: Maybe I don't know.

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Speaker 6: Kyle Tucker said on my podcast that Mitch he thought Mitch had for three or four years assumed Scott Drew would take the job.

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Speaker 3: They become.

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Speaker 6: I guess the year Scott Drew won the national championship. Mitch Barnhart was the head of the selection committee that year, and that was the bubble year, so they spent all that time in the bubble together and he grew really close to him.

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Speaker 8: So I believe that the wife and the grandma shot that down. I think they came to election tour election tend and went back and that was a bad tour, bad tour.

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Speaker 6: But apparently that was a bad tour. I don't know what happened in that, but I mean Baylor was terrible this year.

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Speaker 8: Yes, say that would have right? Yeah, I mean we don't. I don't think they were really that family wanted to live in the UK fish bowl.

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Speaker 3: It is definitely a fish bowl. Right.

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Speaker 6: Let's talk about our guy, Vince Merrill for a second. So you know, we got another commitment yesterday and football. Another four star flipped him.

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Speaker 8: From North Carolina from Bill Belichick.

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Speaker 6: So Bill Belichick creating the thirty third Pro team hasn't happened yet, right, So we get another commitment from North Carolina. H this Marquise Bryant safety, Right, I think that is now. I don't know how many four stars. It's a bunch of starts. At least four or five, I think, yes, out of nowhere. Vince decides to weigh in after the commitment. After the commitment, he tweets. All he says is l O l it's called overspending. Now do we think that is that's got to be aimed at Kentucky?

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Speaker 8: Shot at us? So yeah, I think it is.

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Speaker 3: Now Again, I love the guy. I can't.

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Speaker 6: I can't help it. He's like one of my friends. I can't help it, and he amuses me. There are very few people that amuse me more than Vince. Every Like, I just Vince one of those people. I just look at him and I start smiling. But what's what's he doing?

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Speaker 8: I think he's got one ays on what Little was doing and one eye on what Kentucky.

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Speaker 3: They weren't even recruiting that guy, Like why does he what? I think?

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Speaker 8: Because he still feels like partly responsible for what we do over here because he helped build what we had.

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Speaker 6: Okay, but this is a completely different regime. Yep, it's a completely different group of people.

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Speaker 8: You know, he's listening right now. I'm sure I love you.

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Speaker 3: What's up, big dog? But come on, man, like, what what.

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Speaker 8: Do you care?

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Speaker 3: Like? Wait, wait, wait, what do you care.

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Speaker 8: If we get these commits?

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Speaker 3: I mean, is it that? So he worked with Nocta last year last year at Louisville.

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Speaker 6: Yes, so part of it is I wonder if they don't like each other. Maybe I don't know. Actually I haven't talked to either one of them about it, but maybe they don't. Maybe they don't see.

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Speaker 8: I think there was a little I don't want and animosity is not the right word. I think they were just just didn't jive their way they do things.

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Speaker 3: Is this scuttle butt or scoop like I'm not reporting this, I'm.

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Speaker 8: Not reporting to either.

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Speaker 6: Lemon reported a personal dispute between Nocta and the dog.

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Speaker 8: No, I think there was a little struggle and who has the power and authority? Why do you think that, I'm just guessing.

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Speaker 3: No way, You're not just guessing. How do you know? You do?

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Speaker 6: You do you know something? Man look out ready for this guy knows things he doesn't want to say. They may never admit it, but I think that's pretty accurate.

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Speaker 3: Accurate. So you're saying knocked To and Vince hate to each other.

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Speaker 8: No, I did not say that. I think they probably really do like each other. I think they're ready to do the job.

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Speaker 3: Seems like they get along well.

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Speaker 6: So so the combination you think events leaving Kentucky and you reporting that he and knock To hate each other.

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Speaker 8: I didn't say that.

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Speaker 9: I heard.

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Speaker 8: I'm pretty sure we rolled the tape back. That never came out of my l You.

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Speaker 6: Think the combination of those two things is what leads Vince to to tweet things.

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Speaker 8: I think he's got an aisle what we're doing over here? Yeah, I like it.

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Speaker 3: I like that he's you know, I want him to be upset.

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Speaker 6: The crazy thing to me is why he does this, Because he puts that out and then his mentiones are just three hundred UK fans telling him where he can go. And I don't understand why he wants that. Why does he want that? I think he welcomes the smoke he wants to smoke. There are not many coaches Shannon in the country that just seem to like.

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Speaker 3: Like, bring it on Twitter mafia.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean most coaches are quiet. You know, they have an account, but they really don't tweet a whole lot. And that this is out there tweeting random during the games.

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Speaker 3: During the games, remember fits tweeting Nick Klaus.

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Speaker 8: Into the third quarter from the sideline of the stadium.

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Speaker 6: Hello Nick Grouse, Hello Nick Krause, There's still eight minutes to go, Nick Krause, which is.

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Speaker 8: Still one of the best boss moves I've seen. That was I always had the other team, but that was pretty boss boss move.

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Speaker 6: So here's the thing. We host Louisville this year. Yes, Vince, I know you're listening. We're beating you, big dough.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, bring it on.

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Speaker 3: In our state.

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Speaker 6: Knockta is gonna be knocked to you and over when we win that game and will Stein, it's gonna be a great moment. We're gonna finish the season with that. And the tweety that will occur at him, Oh my, he gotta turn his phone off for months. I'm gonna go ahead and tell you, Nick Resse, he's on. He has to tweet you in the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 8: This she does yes for the press box.

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Speaker 3: So anyway, I enjoyed that. Now, speaking things, I enjoyed.

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Speaker 6: I know people have kind of mixed emotions about him because of the Arkansas shorts, but I can't help the root for my man. Reed Shepherd thirteenth Region Kentucky player last night. So if you watch game three, he got he had a big turnover at the end of the game.

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Speaker 8: Yes he did.

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Speaker 3: Lebron stole it from him. The Rockets.

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Speaker 6: The Rockets blew the game, but last night he got him back. Rockets up three momentums, all in the lakers favor. He drives down the court, hits a mid range jumper, puts.

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Speaker 3: Him up five.

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Speaker 8: Yep.

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Speaker 3: Lebron takes the ball.

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Speaker 6: He picks Lebrocket Lebron's pocket yep, pix him, goes down and gets a dunk and they win the game.

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Speaker 3: When it was over, Shaq, Kenny and Charles interviewed.

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Speaker 6: Him, which was very cool to watch. Go Read Shepherd. I was happy for him last night.

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Speaker 8: I think right before that Lebron and kind of shoulder shimmy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Lebron.

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Speaker 6: Look did you see that Shannon with Lebron kind of gave him a shoulder there.

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Speaker 3: That was kind of a rude move by the old man.

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Speaker 8: Do it that? Kids from the thirteenth region, they know how to fight. I think, I don't.

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Speaker 3: Tell you something. I like, Reid Read should not fight Lebron. That ain't gonna go. Well.

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Speaker 8: I'm sure you are. You are from the thirteenth Regent. I gotta be careful and not everybody fight. I'm from the You don't want me to fight Lebron, but you don't push us around.

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Speaker 3: I think Lebron can push him around.

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Speaker 8: They ain't pushing around and read Shepherd.

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Speaker 6: Glad he got that Steel yeh was happy for him thirteenth, which led to a conversation that I wanted to involve you in real quick in my lifetime. Okay, so let's just start since nineteen eighty all right, who would the starting five for the all thirteenth Regent team? Oh my okay, so I'm gonna give you my picks.

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Speaker 8: All right?

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Speaker 6: Richie yes, Reed, Yes, Charles Thomas, Yes, I thought it one more immediately who Petrowski?

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Speaker 8: Tony Petrowski?

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Speaker 6: So then I think the fifth one is do you want to go Trent Noah or Nick Sanford two Harland countyons for the last.

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Speaker 8: One or wah wah Jones?

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Speaker 3: Why is not?

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Speaker 6: In my lifetime? He's definitely in the all time one. But if we're doing who's your fifth? When you said Nick Sandford from Kwood or Trent Noah man.

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Speaker 3: Nick Sandford, for people who don't know, was great.

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Speaker 6: He was played against Richie. Richie'll tell you he was. It was Richie will say it was him. Nick Sandford and Allen Houston were the best players in the state.

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Speaker 8: But Trent Noah led his team at the state to the state finals, Yes, and ended up playing at Kentucky.

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Speaker 3: So do we picked Trent because he went to the state finals?

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Speaker 8: Take it for our this exercise where we've got to pick Trent.

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Speaker 6: But you're good with me on Clarence Thomas Petrowski, those.

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Speaker 8: Four are a given. Nobody's taking those four off your off your man on.

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Speaker 6: It would be I think it would be cool for somebody that's not me because I don't know the state good enough. They should do in all every region all time's awesome, all first second through the sixteenth region all time team. I think that would be a really cool exercise for somebody that really knows high school basketball to do. I think that would just be a neat way because that would be what sixty four eighty players that you could kind of celebrate.

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Speaker 8: And you basically just on their high school career, just on high school.

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Speaker 6: So like Todd Cox, a Virgie's gonna be on it. That's a great one, whether or not he would have been on it correct otherwise, who's next? Kyle Kyd Kyle Kyle, go ahead, Todd May, I said for some long time to Harlan Todd May is ver. Can you hear me?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 8: Who are Hey?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, pleasure to meet you. So just throwing your eighty hat on here. Imagine you guys are coming in in July.

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Speaker 10: What are some things that you all would want to address first or if anything at all, after being this new blood coming in after twenty four years.

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Speaker 3: It's a great question. I think a new ad that appreciate the call.

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Speaker 6: The two most important things they've got to do is they've got to fix our revenue structure or fix may not be the word, but like get our revenue structure in hand to where we're ready to compete on the for the next twenty years. I think we're on a process to do that, but we gotta to And then I think the next thing is you gotta you gotta win this fan base back. Yep, this fan base needs outreach from the university badly.

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Speaker 8: How do you do it? Well, that's a long.

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Speaker 6: Discussion, but I think you know we Eli Cappeluto said he was doing a listening tour. I haven't really seen him go anywhere, but if I'm an AD, I'm going to all this I'm going to all these towns in state and asking to meet fans I want to get to know this state for real, Like, really go out and get to know not just the not just the donors. Go see what fans are like in Madisonville and Paducah in northern Kentucky and the mountains in you know, in Lexington. Go go meet the fans and meet them, touch them, make them get to know you. Because Mitch Barnard, they can say all they want that he talked.

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Speaker 3: He didn't go out.

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Speaker 6: And meet the regular fan he needs like they need to go and do that. And then so that people feel a connection to the person running their university.

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Speaker 8: That's actually an excellent idea. Get to know why people love this university. Because you keep so much, you and.

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Speaker 6: I get an advantage that very few people do. I'm not gonna say we know the fan base better than anybody, but they ain't because we go everywhere, right, You and I talk not only to the people that are given the most money. We are in every town. I mean, you and I have been to We've done shows in like eighty eight of the one hundred and twenty counties.

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Speaker 3: I've been to every county. The ady needs to do that.

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Speaker 6: Cal did a lot of that in the early years he did a lot of that because of his book tour. He went to all those places. I just think you get a sense more when you are out amongst them of what this means to people, and I think that would be very important, and people appreciate it.

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Speaker 8: They appreciate it.

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Speaker 6: This fan base wants to not like physically touch you, but almost metaphorically touch you, and I think that's important.

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Speaker 8: One of the best things Cal's did when he took the championship trophy on that bus Stow.

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Speaker 6: It was great, and there were crowds everywhere, and there weren't just crowds where we stopped. There were crowds when we would pass places on the road. And it's like you can say you get it, but until you see it and feel it, it's not the same, right, And.

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Speaker 3: I would like the new ad to do that.

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Speaker 6: Will Stein and Mark Pope kind of got some of that because they played here so they were around it. But I don't know that the administrators. I think they're too detached from it. They don't see it, and I think they should do that. We'll take a break and come right back to Kazar.

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Speaker 3: You expecting me. This is not the version I like, But it's the song.

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Speaker 7: I didn't know there was multiple versions of us.

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Speaker 6: It's not the one that's on my CD. But nevertheless, this is Verne Godsden, your slow Burning Memory. It's a little more soulful than the one I like. I like the one that sounds like he's gonna cry right in the middle of it. But if I'm nine two eight, I appreciate the try. Shit, if I'm nine two eight twenty two eighty seven, give a shout.

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Speaker 8: This is why.

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Speaker 6: Okay, So you know, there was a period about six months ago I went on a little crusade about a certain group of McDonald's. Yes, and they did. And then I got I was asked to tone it down. Yes you were, which fair enough. But I ride with the Herdsburg Road McDonald right up the road here. I just said they only had medium cups. Uh huh, My man, Shannon just brought me four diet cokes from the Herridsburg Road.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, I mean they're gonna get they're gonna get have ice in them. But this is it.

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Speaker 6: This is why the heir the Harrisburg Road McDonald's. When I one day write my book ranking McDonald's in Kentucky.

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Speaker 8: You're gonna write McDonald's, I can tell you which ones will be at the bottom and this, but also Harridsburg Road McDonald's near the top, not near it's number one. There are number one.

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Speaker 6: I've been to all of them. Yes, there's a handful that stick out. And in Lexington, Harrisburg Road is number one. Number two is probably out there. Leestown Road next to the.

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Speaker 8: Interstate, all in Midway, the one in Midway.

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Speaker 3: No, I said, at least sorry, Newtown Pike, okay, the one Newtown Pike.

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Speaker 8: That one's probably Well. This was great customer service. The man heard you talk about your diet coke and your medium cup brought you four of them, so kudos to him.

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Speaker 6: Uh. What do we think about the fact that Diana Russini made Mike Vrabel a Spotify song list when he was on a four game losing an.

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Speaker 7: Awful song list too objectively?

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Speaker 3: Did you not see that?

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Speaker 11: So?

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Speaker 6: The Titans had lost four straight games with Rabel, and Russini created a song list on Spotify for him.

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Speaker 3: How people found that out, I don't know.

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Speaker 6: And apparently when you create people's song lists, other people can see it. Luckily, I don't know how to do that, so I can't get caught if I were to do that. But how dumb is that? And they've the Shannon What was on the song list?

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Speaker 12: It was like, all well, sad, yeah, sappy love songs, cuff It Beyonce, House Party, Sam Hunt, Raise Your Glass by Pink Now, there are a few good songs on here.

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Speaker 5: Last Resort, Papa Roach, Can't Stop, Red Hot Jolliber's, Welcome to the Jungle, Guns N' Roses.

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Speaker 8: But why do you think she did that?

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Speaker 7: Got a thunder kiss?

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Speaker 6: So does that make it even more clear that they had a relationship?

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Speaker 7: Oh yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 8: The reporter is ever gonna make head coach a playlist for anything, especially when they're losing.

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Speaker 5: When a handa storm made a playlist for uh anybody?

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean Ryan, you did make.

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Speaker 6: A playlist once for Craig Skinner, which I thought was sweet.

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Speaker 8: Of Well, that's when they won the national title, you know, did we are the Champions and we will rock you and everything like that.

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Speaker 3: They're never gonna leave these two alone.

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Speaker 5: There's a couple of song as Ryan would lock like out here, uh photograph Duff Leppard?

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Speaker 7: Oh yeah, run a Gade by Styx.

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Speaker 6: Okay, so do you think do you think at this point, like, what do you think? Do you think this should still be a story at this point? I mean, what what do you think people are looking for? Like, like she lost her job. He has already admitted, Like what else are people looking for at this point?

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Speaker 8: That's true, they're not letting it die. They just keep, like I said, digging and digging and found this Spotify playlist.

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Speaker 6: Do you think it would be better if they just came out and said, look, we had a relationship.

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Speaker 3: Let's move on.

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Speaker 8: The probably should have done that day one. We made a mistake.

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Speaker 3: Well what if they didn't? What if they were just friends that would occasionally get drunk and make out. Now I'm serious, like what if that? What if that's what it was?

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Speaker 6: I know, for I have friends that I know if they're in the bar together, they're gonna make out. But that but I wouldn't say that they have a relationship.

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Speaker 8: But they're both married to somebody else.

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Speaker 6: But but that's it's still bad. But it's not a relationship. Is that pause where you're just not buying that?

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Speaker 8: I don't think there's any way we can spin it to make it a positive situation and it's not positive, of course.

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Speaker 6: Well, I like though that he got all the counseling he needed Shannon on Saturday, because he was back in the facility on.

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Speaker 8: Sunday's day one and done. We draft when I was gone.

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Speaker 7: Were his family ranks and his priorities?

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Speaker 6: The quickest marriage counseling I've ever seen in my life.

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Speaker 8: One day and you're out, and I saw one thing. Why is she getting punished and he is not? Why does she lose her job and he gets off? Scott?

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's a fair question.

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Speaker 6: I guess the argument is there's like a journalism ethics, whereas there is a no.

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Speaker 3: I mean, football doesn't have ethics.

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Speaker 7: No coaching ethics.

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Speaker 8: No, there's nothing.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I guess that's the argument is you can't have a relationship with your sources and not disclose it would be why the argument would be.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, she's definitely in the wrong.

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Speaker 7: She should get in coaching.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, if she was in coaching, I think she keeps me fine. Yes, all right, who's next, Cindy, Cindy, go ahead.

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Speaker 11: Cindy, Hey, thanks for taking my call. I'm sitting here having a diet coke and I know that you all are talking about songs, and I keep thinking about all the people that call in, all the male callers, especially saying who we should have coached makes me think of the song if you can't be with the one you love, love the one you're with.

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Speaker 6: Oh interesting, Okay, I appreciate it. I got that. That makes sense, you know it is interesting. The ladies of ks are Facebook group. I've gone on there a lot of days to read what they're saying. They are much much, much more supportive of Pope than the average male caller or listener. Like, I think Pope's approval rating with the women part of our fan base is really high. Like I know my mom for instance, My mom really likes smart Pope and kind of doesn't particularly like when we criticize it. She doesn't say that to me explicitly, but I can just kind of tell. And I think that's kind of interesting. It feels like, do you think there are women in our fan base pretty much universally are pro Pope?

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Speaker 8: I think so. I think it's because he's such a good person.

00:22:51
Speaker 3: Is that what you think it is? Like, it's he's such a good.

00:22:54
Speaker 8: Guy that you can overlook his deficiencies. Maybe as a coach or a recruiter that won't last forever.

00:22:59
Speaker 3: But that but that I do think that's true now.

00:23:02
Speaker 8: I absolutely think.

00:23:02
Speaker 7: That's being likable will buy you time. It will buy you in a lot of things in life.

00:23:07
Speaker 6: I totally agree with you, it will buy you time. Whereas like some of our other coaches have kind of maybe guys have liked more than and they and then they kind of rubbed the women.

00:23:18
Speaker 7: On a jerk here another year.

00:23:20
Speaker 6: Yeah, but Gillespie didn't get that benefit of the doubt from the women that Pope.

00:23:24
Speaker 8: Would No, would you agree? I totally agree.

00:23:26
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll take a break right back. TJ Smith, personal injury attorney, called TJ. He'll make them pay.

00:23:34
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00:23:37
Speaker 7: Here's Matt Jones.

00:23:39
Speaker 3: No song with more emotion than this shit.

00:23:41
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, what a way to end the show. The last ever, last time we ever saw Kurtkleban live.

00:23:47
Speaker 6: Yeah, wow, turn it out and that's the last public performance.

00:23:51
Speaker 7: Yeah, you can feel that though.

00:23:53
Speaker 3: I mean, like that still gives me chills.

00:23:56
Speaker 6: I'm sure people younger than us don't feel the same way about that. But like my era, that was the most important band. It wasn't necessarily my favorite, but it was without question the most important of that era. And like that song being the last time like you saw him on television, it's.

00:24:18
Speaker 8: Just crazy knowing what we know, knowing what you know, the like so haunting. I know it's incredibly powerful because it's so haunting.

00:24:27
Speaker 3: Yeah.

00:24:28
Speaker 6: Uh, the women are riding on the text machine for Mark Pope.

00:24:33
Speaker 3: There are are you disagree? Oh you are okay?

00:24:37
Speaker 6: There are a ton seven seven two four five two five four are mostly women saying yes, we are much more pro uh Pope than the men. There's a couple people disagreeing, a couple of women disagreeing. But but I do think again, that's something most people believe that whatever their opinion is is representative of the fan base, whatever that opinion is, And I think you really do have to sit there. What I say to some people is okay, now just take a step back. What percentage of UK fans are on Twitter? Probably not more than fifteen or twenty. What percentage of UK fans are women? Probably forty forty five? Yes, what percentage are old? What percentage are young? And so whoever you are, you can't represent all of those people. I mean think about like when a post goes up, Mario will put a post up on Instagram, Twitter, Facebook and.

00:25:40
Speaker 3: TikTok without question. Facebook gets the most comments and the strongest amount of attention.

00:25:49
Speaker 6: But I don't know one person that uses Facebook as their primary means of social media. But there are a ton of people that that's their.

00:25:56
Speaker 8: Only social media.

00:25:58
Speaker 6: Yes it's not me and who I out with, but those people exists, exist, and there might be more of them than there are everybody else. But then you have people Mario's age who the only social media they use is TikTok and Instagram. No woman goes very few women go on Twitter. Very few women are on Twitter in the grand scheme of things, and very few men are on Instagram, you know. So it is It is kind of interesting, how like what you think are fan base thinks to some extent is what medium you digest the information.

00:26:34
Speaker 3: You know, if you only went on chas Board, that's.

00:26:38
Speaker 6: A hardcore set of male, somewhat older fans, and you would think this fan base is very negative if you only went on that, But then if you went on TikTok, it's a lot more positive.

00:26:53
Speaker 8: Usually, so it just it just depends.

00:26:55
Speaker 3: Everything is different.

00:26:56
Speaker 8: Just for me looking outside, looking in, it seems like men more to put vitriol on the social media account than women.

00:27:04
Speaker 3: Oh, no doubt about that, No doubt about that.

00:27:06
Speaker 6: I will say for me, this is just me, and I'm not saying this is one hundred percent correct. I think the most accurate representation of the fans to me is the our text machine, because I think it gets everybody. I think it gets every kind of person. It's anonymous, but because people have their phone numbers attached, they te tend not to be as mean because I have their phone number, And I think you get the best well rounded view. And this for the most part, it's all over the place. So that's why I find it so interesting. The older I get, it's what I use more and more to decide what I'm going to listen to.

00:27:41
Speaker 8: Well, I felt like this show really reaches a cross section of our fan base, old, young, black, white.

00:27:49
Speaker 3: There is no medium that reaches more different types of people. Uh huh.

00:27:52
Speaker 6: You know when we had that cup that we were at that show a couple weeks ago, and it was a great grandfather, grandfather, mother and son, four generations sitting there listening. Yep, where else is that happening outside of the games, right? You know the answer is is nowhere.

00:28:09
Speaker 3: Do you see what Kyle Tucker said to Seth Greenberg.

00:28:12
Speaker 8: I did see that.

00:28:13
Speaker 3: That's great, that.

00:28:14
Speaker 6: Was Seth Greenberg was like, of course we should expand the tournament. Of course, we should have seventy six teams. Why are people being such blah blah blah, And Kyle Tucker was like, yeah, if I was on the bubble every year, I'd have said that too.

00:28:27
Speaker 8: Yeah, he said, I think if I hadn't made the tournament, I think he went he said that didn't if I hadn't made the tournament, I would have to say that also.

00:28:33
Speaker 6: Because because that really would they should call the bubble Shannon, the Seth Greenberg Bubble.

00:28:37
Speaker 3: Yeah, because he was on it every single year.

00:28:39
Speaker 5: And now you're gonna get seventeen and fifteen Auburn teams in there.

00:28:42
Speaker 7: They're gonna throw in.

00:28:45
Speaker 3: I hate that they expanded it.

00:28:47
Speaker 6: I mean, we'll get used to it, it'll probably be fine, but I hate it.

00:28:51
Speaker 3: I don't think.

00:28:52
Speaker 6: I think you're just gonna end up with a bunch of mediocre teams in there, you know, I mean there might be years. Like you think about twenty thirteen with Neurlands. If if it was seventy six, we'd.

00:29:04
Speaker 8: Been in, we'd have been in, right, we'd have been in.

00:29:07
Speaker 6: So you know, did that team deserve to be in? Probably not, But that's the way it's gonna be now. So I don't think it makes the regular season meaningless, but I do think it will make games Like Kentucky had a couple of games that they had to.

00:29:20
Speaker 3: Win at the end of the year last year. I don't think that's I don't think that'll.

00:29:24
Speaker 8: Be true because you know they're gonna be in the the tournament.

00:29:26
Speaker 6: I mean last year in the SEC, probably everybody would have been in, except like South Carolina, and you know they probably would have fourteen teams in.

00:29:33
Speaker 8: In this system, this first year is gonna be big for him. They've got to get some good matchups and they've got to get some good locations, and it's gotta work this first year.

00:29:40
Speaker 6: And it's unfortunate like they're not gonna be able to play all those games in date. No, they're gonna have to play him in a couple of different spots, and that'll lose.

00:29:46
Speaker 3: Some of the masks. I agree too, so I think it's a bad decision, but it is what it is. What's next, Sam, Sam, go ahead?

00:29:53
Speaker 6: Sam, Hey, Matt a couple points.

00:29:57
Speaker 11: It didn't like seeing Travenia on the mound last night, and hopefully we can tell Tito to keep them behind the plate. Secondly, the good news Zach Maxwell coming up from Triple A, So big sugar time in Sincy.

00:30:08
Speaker 9: Let's go go catch.

00:30:10
Speaker 6: Yeah, we uh, one of our pitchers got hurt, but he was our worst pitcher, so Brandon Williams and so they're bringing somebody up with Lodolo. Should be back very soon. We'll see if the blister holds up. They got rock last night, but that's okay. Do you like when they when they put a position player to pitch at the end of the game that.

00:30:24
Speaker 3: We did that we had just to catcher out there throwing.

00:30:27
Speaker 8: I love it. I love it. My last college game, I got to pitch the last inning. That's probably one of the highlights of my college career.

00:30:32
Speaker 3: How did you do?

00:30:33
Speaker 8: Uh, deep deep deep deep fly ball to left deep deep deep deep deep fla ball to center and then they're like another deep flaball to center.

00:30:41
Speaker 6: But you got everybody out, got him out zero e M zero college e r a zero zero zero.

00:30:48
Speaker 8: But boy, they hit some bombs. I was luck. It was a good ballpark. It could have been three home runs and another ballpark.

00:30:54
Speaker 3: Kind of like you where I got you out.

00:30:56
Speaker 6: That was a fair home run. That was fair our Ten years later, he's still mad about it.

00:31:02
Speaker 8: Even Cow said it was fair well.

00:31:04
Speaker 3: But I mean, dos Cow tell the truth?

00:31:06
Speaker 8: Yes he does. He would never tell a lie.

00:31:09
Speaker 6: By the way, can I say something real quick when it comes to Cal. We still have these cow defenders in the UK fan base. Not a lot, but we still have some that are like, look what cows. I just want everybody has a right to be frustrated with Pope. I get it, but I still want you to say, go look at the comparison of the two years of Cal at Arkansas and the two years. But it ain't that much. It's not all right, almost identical. It's almost identical. They went one round farther than us this year and that's it. He won the SEC tournament.

00:31:39
Speaker 3: That is better.

00:31:40
Speaker 8: But they were on the bubble last year.

00:31:42
Speaker 6: They almost didn't get in if you remember, or two years ago, so you know, Cow wins the recruiting battles, but he's always done that. The question is the games, and I will know that for all our frustration, if John kel Perry had the record Mark Pope had had the last two years.

00:32:04
Speaker 8: We'd be furious. Oh yes, he would have already been run out of here.

00:32:09
Speaker 3: And he's essentially had that record.

00:32:11
Speaker 8: At Arkansas before the SEC tournament, the records of Callum Pope.

00:32:14
Speaker 6: Were the exact, same, exact, same pact, same. Who's next, Stu, STU, go ahead.

00:32:21
Speaker 9: STUTU, yesu. Uh, Matt, I want to talk to about David allan Coe. Uh. I was a big fan of his kind of growing up, but when he stuck this racist stuff, I kind of back to what he got it.

00:32:38
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was like that too.

00:32:40
Speaker 8: He had that year.

00:32:41
Speaker 6: It was like a two or three year period where he just like decided to do that.

00:32:44
Speaker 3: And I don't know why he did that.

00:32:46
Speaker 9: Yeah. A couple of things, A couple of songs he wrote, uh, Keny Tucker's Field of Stone?

00:32:54
Speaker 3: Oh did he? I didn't know that?

00:32:56
Speaker 9: You remember that one? And also U Also his big song obviously was I'm Going Black right now? Kobe Darlin. We played that, yeah, Steve.

00:33:11
Speaker 6: He mentions him in the song he says something like as my good friends at.

00:33:15
Speaker 9: The end of us ang Yeah, which which he also wrote City of News.

00:33:19
Speaker 6: Dude, Okay, I didn't know that well. I appreciate the Carl. I had no idea appreciate it. Field of Stone, We'll play this team. I mean, I'm sorry that era. Like I said, he he had this period where he started went off the rails and started writing races song. So I can't I can't say I like him, but he did produce music at his.

00:33:41
Speaker 3: Time when I that you know, is the kind that I.

00:33:44
Speaker 8: Like during the heyday of country music in the nineties era, he is one of the bigger stars.

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00:34:41
Speaker 3: Back, so.

00:34:44
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00:34:45
Speaker 6: Take you sports radio. Here's a little tan you right now. Latest mock draft. Jaden Quainton's going fifteenth.

00:34:52
Speaker 8: He went slid now as he's slid back up as looks like.

00:34:55
Speaker 6: Yes, uh, they've got the guy from Iowa State, who, of course we would like to see end up here.

00:35:00
Speaker 8: They've got him thirtieth, the Mamavich guy.

00:35:03
Speaker 3: That guy, Yeah, so he did mom Silovitch.

00:35:05
Speaker 6: So you'd have to convince him to give up first, which but honestly, he would make more money than he would here than he would is.

00:35:11
Speaker 8: The thirtieth pick in the draft, be a late first round any of.

00:35:14
Speaker 6: The schools that won him. And then that Alan Graves kid we played against at Santa Clair. They have him twenty sixth. Same thing. I mean, I don't know what he wants to do, but he would make more money.

00:35:23
Speaker 8: Especially since we have a lot of money sitting there, just sitting there to give somebody.

00:35:26
Speaker 6: Yeah, the Bonsa one, Peterson two, Caleb Wilson, three, Cam Boozer and then Darius Acuff four. That's or five excuse me, that's that's probably the top five. But I mean if you're getting that's what's crazy about this draft. I mean, Cam Boozer is awesome. You might get him four, fourth, Darius Acuff fifth. I mean, Darius Acuff is like John Wall and you could get him fifth. I mean that's that's a that is a the top five of that draft. Yeah, that's a stacked a top five as you'll ever see.

00:36:01
Speaker 8: Those guys are a number one pick a lot of years.

00:36:03
Speaker 6: And then you got six Michel Brown. Okay, we saw how good he could be when he was playing another freshman, Keaton Wagler that's seven from Illinois, Kingston Flemings from Houston, freshman Nate a Mint Tennessee, neither freshman Brayden Berry's from Arizona.

00:36:18
Speaker 8: To another freshman, Holy.

00:36:19
Speaker 6: Col Alabama's Filon is eleventh. That'd be the first upper.

00:36:24
Speaker 8: First upper classman done pick till eleventh. So that's amazing.

00:36:27
Speaker 3: That's I mean, that's that's why it is one of the historic classes.

00:36:30
Speaker 6: And his fans are like, we had one of those historic classes in the history of college basketball.

00:36:35
Speaker 3: We didn't even want them. Yeah, you know, I do understand.

00:36:38
Speaker 8: We had some of those guys on campus.

00:36:39
Speaker 6: We had a lot of them on campus over the time. Who's up next, shit, Matthew, Matthew, go ahead, Matthew.

00:36:48
Speaker 13: Hey, guys, how you doing good. Varne Godsden is dead. He died in lung cancer back in the nineties early nineties. All right, Yeah, and I have question, how good do you think our football team is going to be this year?

00:37:05
Speaker 3: Yeah?

00:37:05
Speaker 6: I appreciate the call. Yeah, I mean, I don't know. I think the football team is gonna be fun. I think they're gonna be competitive. I think the schedule is absurd.

00:37:17
Speaker 3: I mean, I.

00:37:19
Speaker 8: Will over under I think's four and a half.

00:37:21
Speaker 6: Yeah, and I think that's about right because I think we'll probably win either four or five games.

00:37:26
Speaker 3: That's that's that's kind of where I am on it.

00:37:29
Speaker 8: Try to, you know, steal one of those powerhouses you're.

00:37:32
Speaker 6: Let me let me just read this schedule again. We open up with the Youngstown State.

00:37:37
Speaker 8: That's a win.

00:37:38
Speaker 6: Then September twelfth, Bama at home. Then the next week, you know what, you just played Bama at home. You know your reward, go to A and M. Then South Alabama at home, then at South Carolina, then LSU at home, then at Oklahoma, vand at home, at Tennessee, Florida at home, home at Missouri, Louisville at home.

00:38:03
Speaker 8: My goodness.

00:38:04
Speaker 3: But I mean, think about our first four SEC games or.

00:38:08
Speaker 6: Alabama, A, A and M, South Carolina, L s U, Oklahoma that was the first five.

00:38:13
Speaker 8: I mean, that's.

00:38:14
Speaker 6: Crazy, L s U, Oklahoma, Alabama and A and M are teams we never play, and we play all of them this year.

00:38:22
Speaker 8: So the home game, you got Alabama, you got Lane, who's coming in.

00:38:26
Speaker 6: Here's who's coming into Historic Kroger Field, Alabama, L s U, Vandy and Florida and Louisville.

00:38:37
Speaker 8: So you got John Summer on Florida, you got Lane Kiffon and l s u.

00:38:42
Speaker 3: Yeah, tell whatever his face is the boor at Alabama?

00:38:44
Speaker 8: Alabama bandy with without without without without Pavi Pavia. But I mean, I will say.

00:38:52
Speaker 6: Though I'm amped about that game against Alabama, like they can't make me not be here for that, that day is going to be all as long as we don't lose to Youngstown State the week before, which I don't think we will. That day is going to be an awesome day to be in Lexington, Bama, in town will Stein this moment.

00:39:16
Speaker 3: Of like that'd be great. I can't wait. Who's next.

00:39:20
Speaker 7: Let's go to Jared.

00:39:21
Speaker 3: Jared, go ahead, Jared.

00:39:25
Speaker 10: Hey Man, thanks for taking my call. So first and foremost, I do actually think Kentucky is going to beat A and M in football. I have lived in College Station for many years, and A and M is always destined to be great and it.

00:39:37
Speaker 9: Just never is. So that's the first hope you're right.

00:39:40
Speaker 3: Thing.

00:39:43
Speaker 10: I want to end with some positivity on Mark Pope and where the roster is now.

00:39:47
Speaker 9: I think the.

00:39:47
Speaker 10: Backcourt isn't as good as we were, but I think they're good enough. I think they're going to get it done. I think the front court is actually going to be better than what we saw this year, not because they're necessarily more talented, but because they fit into Pope system better. And I think Brad Hawthorn is actually going to surprise a lot of people, and by the tenth game of the season, he's going to be a starter. And he is a future NBA draft pick. Thanks for taking my call.

00:40:09
Speaker 6: Yeah, I appreciate it. Here's my take on Let's say we add nobody to the roster. All right, let's say I mean we'll add a couple guys, but let's say we add no one of substance. Let's say that the say you add this kid from Israel, and really that's it in terms.

00:40:24
Speaker 3: Of big time play. Maybe add one or two dudes at the end.

00:40:29
Speaker 6: I actually think the roster as it sins can be better than the team we just had. But I don't think we'll ever during the season think the team is a contender. So that's what I think will be tough for this fan base. I don't think we're gonna be awful. I think people look at it and go we're gonna actually think you can match the two rosters up and say we can be better. But the thing about last year's team was really until Jalen low got hurt the last time, we kept thinking they can still do it. Yes, this can He'll be a contender. I don't know that we're gonna think that next year's team can be a contender.

00:41:05
Speaker 8: I think from the beginning of the season, I think you're exactly right. We all know this is not a I.

00:41:11
Speaker 3: Think they can be as good or better.

00:41:13
Speaker 6: Absolutely, I really do, because I think if you look player by player, it's not bad, right. But I don't think there'll ever be a moment that we watched Duke in Florida and go we can get.

00:41:24
Speaker 8: There, right, And last year we did. And last year when.

00:41:27
Speaker 6: We had that moment in the Saint John's game when Quainton's and Lowe were playing, we're like, you know what, we got to get everybody, We're we're back, and.

00:41:35
Speaker 8: And then that's that's not gonna happen this year with the I don't think what's the current rosters we have it because we're just missing. We don't have a dude.

00:41:41
Speaker 6: We don't have a dude We have a lot of kind of dudes, but we don't have a dude. And I think if you're if you're gonna summarize what Pope has missed since he's been here, the realities.

00:41:51
Speaker 3: He's never had a dude. We're three years in and we've never had a dude.

00:41:57
Speaker 6: We didn't really have. We wanted Jackson Robinson to dude. He was good, but he wasn't a dude. We wanted jal and Lowe and maybe a senior O Way to be a dude, and they were good, but maybe not a dude. And I don't think we're gonna have a dude this.

00:42:12
Speaker 8: Year, not yet, so not yet maybe so maybe coming.

00:42:15
Speaker 6: Maybe coming, That would be good. All right, We'll see you all tomorrow. This has been Kentucky Sports Radio.