"Fletch" vs. "European Vacation" vs. "Spies Like Us": Episode 1 of 2

<v Speaker 1>Oh, come on, guys, it's so simple. Maybe you need
<v Speaker 1>a refresher course.
<v Speaker 2>It's all shirley these days.
<v Speaker 3>Okay, d I've got a trivia question for you. There
<v Speaker 3>is only one actor to have three movies in the
<v Speaker 3>top twenty at the box office for nineteen eighty five.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, do you know who that is? I feel like
<v Speaker 1>I'm in church and the answer is always Jesus. And
<v Speaker 1>given that we're here to talk about three movies by
<v Speaker 1>chevy Chase, I feel like that's going to be the
<v Speaker 1>right answer. But then I feel like you're going to
<v Speaker 1>tell me and you're going to say.
<v Speaker 3>The answer is not Jesus. That's how much I can
<v Speaker 3>tell you at this moment.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, chevy Chase.
<v Speaker 3>Chevy Chase, who start in Fletch, European Vacation and Spies
<v Speaker 3>like us. The only actor to have three movies in
<v Speaker 3>the top twenty at the box office in nineteen eighty five.
<v Speaker 3>Now here's my trivia question to you.
<v Speaker 1>Oh I thought that was the trivia question. No, no, no,
<v Speaker 1>all right, okay, all right.
<v Speaker 3>So obviously today we're here to talk about those three movies.
<v Speaker 3>We're doing a Chevy Chase.
<v Speaker 1>Three way trifecta.
<v Speaker 3>Three great movies from nineteen eighty five, funny classics. Chevy
<v Speaker 3>Chase really at the top of his game in nineteen
<v Speaker 3>eighty five.
<v Speaker 1>Yep. Okay.
<v Speaker 3>There were two actors who had two movies in the
<v Speaker 3>top twenty in eighty five.
<v Speaker 1>Two actors who had two movies in the top twenty.
<v Speaker 1>So I'm gonna guess Michael J. Fox with Back to
<v Speaker 1>the Future and Teen Wolf.
<v Speaker 3>Not in the top twenty. It's a good guess, though, Okay,
<v Speaker 3>I'll give you a hint. We just talked about him.
<v Speaker 1>Anthony Michael Hall.
<v Speaker 3>No, Sylvester stallone, Oh.
<v Speaker 1>Right, right with Rocky four and Rambo Rambo and Rocky four.
<v Speaker 3>That's exactly right, and the other one is a little
<v Speaker 3>bit harder me hip. He was also in the movie
<v Speaker 3>Three min and a Baby.
<v Speaker 1>Okay. So Ted Danson hasn't been in any good movies,
<v Speaker 1>Tom Sellick, that was the only movie he was in
<v Speaker 1>that year, So I feel like we've got to be
<v Speaker 1>Steve Gutenberg.
<v Speaker 3>Steve Gutenberg had two movies in the top twenty in
<v Speaker 3>nineteen eighty five.
<v Speaker 1>And he guesses when did Three Minute a Baby come out?
<v Speaker 3>Eighty seven?
<v Speaker 1>Okay, so Police Academy two. Yep. And cocoon cocoon. Well done,
<v Speaker 1>That is the answer to the trivia question. Wow, so
<v Speaker 1>I've just got the stonecutters. The we made Steve Gutenberg
<v Speaker 1>a star from the Simpsons. Thing going through my head,
<v Speaker 1>like how did he become famous?
<v Speaker 3>Steve Gutenberg? The goot is big in eighty five, but
<v Speaker 3>not as big as Cornelius Crane Chase. Did you know
<v Speaker 3>that he was a Vanderbilt Vanderbilt University.
<v Speaker 1>Well, that the university was named after a he's a man. Yeah, wow,
<v Speaker 1>so not really. Oh, by the way, everybody, welcome back
<v Speaker 1>to the Shirly You Can't Be Serious podcast. We are
<v Speaker 1>here talking about three movies starring Chevy Chase from nineteen
<v Speaker 1>eighty five, which are all phenomenal. We have fletch, we
<v Speaker 1>have spies like us, and we have European Vacation. It's
<v Speaker 1>the nineteen eighty five Chevy Chase trifecta. You just weren't
<v Speaker 1>getting any hotter than Chevy Chase in nineteen eighty.
<v Speaker 3>Hot as a firecracker in nineteen eighty five.
<v Speaker 1>Yes, and so I'm James D. Graves and you're not.
<v Speaker 1>And this is my co host Jason Colvin. If it's
<v Speaker 1>your first time watching me. Welcome aboard. We will be
<v Speaker 1>telling you by the end of our second episode. This
<v Speaker 1>will be the first episode. End of the second episode,
<v Speaker 1>how we rank these three movies. Which is the best
<v Speaker 1>and which is the worst.
<v Speaker 3>We're gonna rank them one, two three at the end
<v Speaker 3>of this final judgment, I will tell you this. So
<v Speaker 3>I was curious because three movies in nineteen eighty five,
<v Speaker 3>that's working, right, And so I looked at the filming dates.
<v Speaker 3>So just so we're kind of on the same page.
<v Speaker 3>Fletch was released May thirty first, nineteen eighty five, European
<v Speaker 3>Vacation was released in July twenty sixth of nineteen eighty five,
<v Speaker 3>and then Spies Like Us December third of nineteen eighty five.
<v Speaker 1>Yep, he filmed Fletch first in early eighty four, he
<v Speaker 1>filmed European Vacation in late eighty four, and then he
<v Speaker 1>filmed Spies Like Us in early eighty five.
<v Speaker 3>Here's the interesting thing. You're exactly right. The Fletch shoot
<v Speaker 3>was in and around Los Angeles, Okay, and they had
<v Speaker 3>to move the shooting schedule around the Olympics.
<v Speaker 1>That's right, that's right to.
<v Speaker 3>Kind of place it for you. The eighty four Olympics
<v Speaker 3>in La was such a big deal they had to
<v Speaker 3>move the shooting of Fletch around the Olympics.
<v Speaker 1>Marrily Retton, Merrily Retten. Was Bruce Jenner still around or
<v Speaker 1>was that? I think that's after him? And then Carl Lewis,
<v Speaker 1>Edwin Moses.
<v Speaker 3>You had Mary Decker. The girl fell down. I think
<v Speaker 3>Zola Bud tripped her up and she's laying there on
<v Speaker 3>the track crying. But great year for Chevy Chase in
<v Speaker 3>nineteen eighty five.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you got a gold, a silver, and a bronze
<v Speaker 1>on these three movies. I think that's right. That's right.
<v Speaker 3>Speaking of nineteen eighty five, your favorite movie of all time?
<v Speaker 3>Back to the Future was released in nineteen eighty five.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and of all of these movies, of all of them,
<v Speaker 1>I would not have picked this one to do this,
<v Speaker 1>But European Vacation knocked it out of the top sport.
<v Speaker 1>This lodged it from number one. It had been number
<v Speaker 1>one for three weeks, and then along came National Lampoon,
<v Speaker 1>European Vacation, and as the power phouse that he is,
<v Speaker 1>Chevy Chase dethroned Michael J. Fox for a week and
<v Speaker 1>then back to the Future came back for another eight
<v Speaker 1>weeks after.
<v Speaker 3>That, so obviously Back to the Future was the big
<v Speaker 3>movie that summer. But that's showing some clout that Chevy
<v Speaker 3>Chase can come in.
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, excuse me.
<v Speaker 3>Number one spot. Yeah for a little while anyway.
<v Speaker 1>So have you. I don't know if you remember, like,
<v Speaker 1>do you remember seeing these movies for the first time?
<v Speaker 3>Yes, oh yeah, okay, so I'm twelve, uh huh, and
<v Speaker 3>these movies are just naughty enough for me to really
<v Speaker 3>want to see them, you know. But yeah, I think
<v Speaker 3>I saw all three of these in the movie theater.
<v Speaker 1>I know, I saw European Vacation in the movie theater
<v Speaker 1>and I have not seen it again since then until
<v Speaker 1>like I just finished it ten minutes ago, right, I
<v Speaker 1>can tell you that having seen boobies for the first
<v Speaker 1>time with National Lampoon Vacation, Yes, all I was waiting
<v Speaker 1>for when I saw that movie was Beverly DeAngelo to
<v Speaker 1>show me her boobies again. And then I got a
<v Speaker 1>behind the back flash from the towel and I was
<v Speaker 1>like disappointed for the rest of the movie.
<v Speaker 3>The Hot Shower Wife or whatever the name of that
<v Speaker 3>movie was.
<v Speaker 1>Hot Wife in the Shower hot wife in the shower. Okay,
<v Speaker 1>so his biological parents. His dad passed away early on
<v Speaker 1>when he was just I think maybe ten years old
<v Speaker 1>or something like that, and his mother remarried a descendant
<v Speaker 1>of the Vanderbilts and became kind of a socialite for
<v Speaker 1>a time. Now they ended up splitting up as well,
<v Speaker 1>but she's still kind of trying to maintain that social class.
<v Speaker 1>But he kind of said it was it was hard life,
<v Speaker 1>like she was hard on him, but because of their
<v Speaker 1>kind of social status, he got to go to some
<v Speaker 1>pretty good schools, which means he got to get kicked
<v Speaker 1>out of some pretty good schools. I told you a
<v Speaker 1>story this week.
<v Speaker 3>I heard him tell a story where, you know, it's
<v Speaker 3>one of those deals where he was acting up in class,
<v Speaker 3>disrupting the class, and the teacher said, mister Chase, I
<v Speaker 3>demand that you stand up and apologize to the class
<v Speaker 3>for your behavior. And so he stood up and, in
<v Speaker 3>young Chevy Chase fashion, was like students faculty loved ones.
<v Speaker 3>I just want to apologize for my and he continued
<v Speaker 3>to go on and improv.
<v Speaker 1>I'm just wondering if he started talking about the teacher
<v Speaker 1>and how she's recovered from syphilis, and her face looks
<v Speaker 1>so much. The nose looks all about it now.
<v Speaker 3>And he said he kept going, kept going going until
<v Speaker 3>she's like.
<v Speaker 1>Get out. He's like, I did what you told me. Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>He somehow managed to get into a college, but also
<v Speaker 1>got himself expelled from that college. What I heard was
<v Speaker 1>that he this is speculation, but might have snuck a
<v Speaker 1>full grown cow into one of the dorm rooms. I've
<v Speaker 1>heard that.
<v Speaker 3>I've heard rumors of that.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so of course he's got this. He's got this
<v Speaker 1>witty humor. You know, he's obviously a card. He's a
<v Speaker 1>guy that I think his mouth gets him a lot
<v Speaker 1>of success and also in a lot of trouble.
<v Speaker 3>He's really good at poking fun at people. And if
<v Speaker 3>you're on the observing end of that, you're like, this
<v Speaker 3>is hilarious, right, But if you're on the receiving end
<v Speaker 3>of that, it's not so funny.
<v Speaker 1>Amy Heckerling said she disliked Chevy Chase so much that
<v Speaker 1>she refused to go on set unless she had a
<v Speaker 1>ticket to New York in her hand, so that she
<v Speaker 1>knew if she wanted to leave she.
<v Speaker 3>Could had to have it at all times. Because he's
<v Speaker 3>such a rear.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.
<v Speaker 3>Now we've already talked about this. We've covered Chevy Chase
<v Speaker 3>in Vacation, which we pitted against the Great Outdoors.
<v Speaker 1>Ye, go back.
<v Speaker 3>That's a couple of summers ago.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, talked about Christmas Vacation versus Scrooge. Christmas Vacation he
<v Speaker 1>chased off Chris Columbus, which is yeah, I mean within
<v Speaker 1>a couple of days.
<v Speaker 3>And Chris Columbus had to have the job, like had
<v Speaker 3>to have it and said I can't work with this guy.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's gotta be pretty bad.
<v Speaker 3>Christmas Vacation and Scrooge that was fun.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that was a good one. Yeah. So he ends
<v Speaker 1>up deciding, you know, hey, this thing that I'm good
<v Speaker 1>at of being funny, I'm going to go try to
<v Speaker 1>make something of myself with it. He ends up doing
<v Speaker 1>an improv troop. He ends up with Belushi and the
<v Speaker 1>Lemmings in La and then ultimately, you know, he's got
<v Speaker 1>some experience. He even drove a taxi for a little bit,
<v Speaker 1>got himself cast in a play because a casting director
<v Speaker 1>got in the cab and he heard casting director and
<v Speaker 1>immediately was like, let's start doing some impressions, and got
<v Speaker 1>himself a bit part in a play, but he just
<v Speaker 1>kind of grinded the pavement and took every opportunity to
<v Speaker 1>act up that he could. And then he's in line
<v Speaker 1>to watch Monty Python and the Holy Grail, and the
<v Speaker 1>other guy that he happens to see in line is
<v Speaker 1>Lauren Michaels that he recognizes and is low and Lauren's like, hey,
<v Speaker 1>you know, how's it going? And they start talking and
<v Speaker 1>Chevy of course starts being Chevy and Riffin and Lauren's like,
<v Speaker 1>I'm developing this new skit concept. I think he'd be
<v Speaker 1>really good as a writer on this, and so he
<v Speaker 1>comes in as a writer, but is so charismatic that
<v Speaker 1>they're like, we got to get this guy in front
<v Speaker 1>of the camera. And of course he lays the foundation
<v Speaker 1>for Saturday Night Live News, which are we end update?
<v Speaker 1>We we end update with Chevy Chase. I'm Chevy Chase
<v Speaker 1>and you're not why from New York.
<v Speaker 3>It's Saturday night, you know, Chevy Chase. To give him credit,
<v Speaker 3>he had the rare combination of being really funny and
<v Speaker 3>having like leading man type looks.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I was watching some of like it was the
<v Speaker 1>scene in European Vacation where he like rips off the sunglasses,
<v Speaker 1>you know, like Mom's been kidnapped, right, He's doing the
<v Speaker 1>Superman thing and ripping off the sunglasses, moving from Clark
<v Speaker 1>Kinnon to Superman, and I like, I just kind of
<v Speaker 1>got this Harrison Ford vibe like he could have been
<v Speaker 1>he could have been Indiana Jones and actually done a
<v Speaker 1>great job at it. He's got the size, he's got
<v Speaker 1>the looks, he's got the I mean, I think Harrison
<v Speaker 1>Ford's probably more charming and more you can take him
<v Speaker 1>more seriously. Sure, but you know, things went a little different.
<v Speaker 1>I could totally see Chevy being an action star.
<v Speaker 3>You know, I totally agree with you. A couple of
<v Speaker 3>years ago, I went on the Film By podcast and
<v Speaker 3>I discussed the movie foul Play, which Goldiehan, Goldiehan and
<v Speaker 3>Chevy Chase, and that movie is he has some goofy moments,
<v Speaker 3>they're capitalizing on his SNL presence, but he also has
<v Speaker 3>some serious moments. It's a cop drama. I mean, he's
<v Speaker 3>he shoots a guy. I mean there's some action involved
<v Speaker 3>in that. And when you watch that movie, which I've
<v Speaker 3>seen that movie thousand times, it's it's similar to like
<v Speaker 3>Fletch in that there's some really dramatic moments, and you
<v Speaker 3>could see him being a serious actor, but he just
<v Speaker 3>never really leaned into that full on. I don't think
<v Speaker 3>he could have been great at it, though.
<v Speaker 1>I think I Chevy being goofy Chevy is the Chevy
<v Speaker 1>that I want to see most of the time.
<v Speaker 3>I just got to say, well, I mean that's true
<v Speaker 3>though with Robin Williams. Like Robin Williams is off the hook.
<v Speaker 3>He's hilarious. We all love him, he's super funny, but
<v Speaker 3>then also we get good will honey.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know. So No, he definitely can do do
<v Speaker 1>some seriously.
<v Speaker 3>He could pull off both. I just don't know why
<v Speaker 3>he never did.
<v Speaker 1>Right, Yeah, it's interesting. I don't Chevy Chase ever in
<v Speaker 1>like a genuinely serious movie, like not a comedic movie
<v Speaker 1>at all. I can't think. I don't think so.
<v Speaker 3>I don't think he ever stretches like I think Fletch
<v Speaker 3>maybe the furthest he ever stretched.
<v Speaker 1>Right, you know, stretched and Fletch, Yeah, stretched and Fletch.
<v Speaker 3>You know the end scene with Tim matheson mister Stanwick
<v Speaker 3>and he's like, cut the crap, get down here, and
<v Speaker 3>it's tense. Yeah, yeah, And that's that's about it.
<v Speaker 1>Had things played out differently. With the way that we
<v Speaker 1>compare movies, I can totally see us having compared Beverly Hills,
<v Speaker 1>cop Arms Seth Fletch. It's like just such a similar vibe.
<v Speaker 1>You've of course got two SNL alumni leading the show
<v Speaker 1>on both of these things. But let's you know, let's
<v Speaker 1>start there with Fletch. So, Fletch was actually a series
<v Speaker 1>of books from like the seventies. You said you had
<v Speaker 1>some of these books.
<v Speaker 3>Right, I've read a couple of these books. It's been
<v Speaker 3>a forever ago since I've read. Gregory MacDonald is the author.
<v Speaker 3>Fletch is humorous in those books, but he's also more serious.
<v Speaker 1>Right. So they started developing a script for that book,
<v Speaker 1>those stories in the seventies, and it went through multiple
<v Speaker 1>production companies, multiple producers, and I mean just basically it
<v Speaker 1>could never really see the light of day. So from
<v Speaker 1>basically from nineteen seventy four until about nineteen eighty two,
<v Speaker 1>it just was in development.
<v Speaker 3>Hell, right, and then something happened. Michael Douglas stepped in. Yes,
<v Speaker 3>that Michael Douglas. He saw the potential for a character,
<v Speaker 3>like a reoccurring character. It bounced around from you know,
<v Speaker 3>it was with Columbia, it was with Universal, it was
<v Speaker 3>with Fox, it was with Paramount and Warner Brothers, and no,
<v Speaker 3>everybody kind of passed on it. And then Michael Douglas
<v Speaker 3>steps in and says, I think there's something here. You know,
<v Speaker 3>it's one of those where Okay, well maybe you should
<v Speaker 3>star as Fletched. So Michael Douglas was considered for this character.
<v Speaker 3>I mean you want to let's talk about the list
<v Speaker 3>of names who could have been Fletchka. All right, so
<v Speaker 3>here are the names that I have for you that
<v Speaker 3>could have been Fletched. Okay, Burt Reynolds, yes, Richard Dreyfus, No,
<v Speaker 3>George Sigal well maybe maybe Richard I could he was
<v Speaker 3>funny in Steakout. Yeah, well he was funny in Steakout.
<v Speaker 1>I've not seen sake he was funny. And what about
<v Speaker 1>Bob I could see him being I mean, yes, he's
<v Speaker 1>he does some good comedic work. Okay, yeah, okay, go ahead.
<v Speaker 3>George Segal, the guy from Who's Afraid of Virginia Wolf?
<v Speaker 3>I mean the Grandpa and the Goldbergs, right, okay, yeah,
<v Speaker 3>all right, Barry Bostwick, Okay, sure, okay, Charles Grodin.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I could see that too. Jeff Bridges definitely, Oh, definitely, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>Jeff Bridges would have been an incredibly good fledge.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I could see that. Yeah, how about this one?
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Nick Jagger, somebody was smoking some crack when they
<v Speaker 1>came up with that idea. So as I understand it,
<v Speaker 1>the author McDonald Gregor McDonald, yeah, he because it went
<v Speaker 1>through so many options that eventually he was like, I
<v Speaker 1>want veto rights on whoever's going to star in this thing?
<v Speaker 1>And and he was absolutely like, no, you're not casting
<v Speaker 1>McJagger right as Irwin Fletcher. No, not gonna happen.
<v Speaker 3>Come on, And so they offered a Chevy Chase.
<v Speaker 4>And I'm sorry, who are you again, I'm Frida's boss.
<v Speaker 4>Who's Frida my secretary?
<v Speaker 3>He actually turned it down, which he said, I didn't
<v Speaker 3>turn it down, my manager turned it down. Yeah, And
<v Speaker 3>when it came back to him, I think he got
<v Speaker 3>a little more involved saw it and it's like, yeah,
<v Speaker 3>I think maybe, And that's when Gregory McDonald sort of
<v Speaker 3>blessed that Chevy Chase as Fletch.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.
<v Speaker 4>Hey, I think our problems may just be staved. McMahon.
<v Speaker 4>I think I just one of million bucks. Yeah, win,
<v Speaker 4>m Fletcher, you choose? Oh boy, I lost again. Sorry.
<v Speaker 1>So chevy Chase really tuned in and decided he wanted
<v Speaker 1>to play it when he found out the guy writing
<v Speaker 1>the screenplay was going to be Andrew Bergman. Okay, so
<v Speaker 1>Andrew Bergman has before this wrote Blazing Saddle, Blazing Saddles. Yes, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I mean I could. I mean if you yes, I
<v Speaker 1>mean nineteen eighties. If you're telling me the guy that
<v Speaker 1>wrote Blazing Zaddles is going to write a movie that
<v Speaker 1>I can be a part of, and I'm chevy Chase. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>one percent, I'm doing that right now. Do you know
<v Speaker 1>what movie he wrote in the future that we're going
<v Speaker 1>to cover later? What? No? What tell me? Okay, it
<v Speaker 1>came up. It keeps coming up. I don't understand why
<v Speaker 1>it keeps coming up. It came up whenever we were
<v Speaker 1>talking about we're talking about the Eagles. One of the
<v Speaker 1>co writers of the songs wrote a book. His most
<v Speaker 1>famous book was called Strip Tease. Andrew Bergman wrote the
<v Speaker 1>screenplay for Strip Teas. So you guys tune in. It's
<v Speaker 1>not that we love Strip Tease. We are going to
<v Speaker 1>go and we're going to cover strip teas and God
<v Speaker 1>help me show Girls and ask the question, what the
<v Speaker 1>heck happened?
<v Speaker 3>We might love strip teas after watching show Girls.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, if I'm still alive and haven't slipped my wrists vertically, yes.
<v Speaker 3>All right, so we want to go through the Fletched
<v Speaker 3>cast real quick.
<v Speaker 1>Well all right, so.
<v Speaker 3>So obviously Chevy Chase, Irwin M. Fletcher aka Fletch aka
<v Speaker 3>John Cock, Toastin Igor Stravinsky, right, Jane Doe, Don Corleone,
<v Speaker 3>Doctor Rosen Rosen, Ted Nugent, Harry S.
<v Speaker 1>Truman, Yeah, mister Poone, Manchi Indian.
<v Speaker 4>Oh, it's me doctor Rosen, Poenis. I'm just here to
<v Speaker 4>check out Damwick's file, Doctor Rosen Rose.
<v Speaker 1>And I'm here to get a runner again. I get
<v Speaker 1>doctor Rosen, I want to check out records and doctor Rosen.
<v Speaker 3>So he plays all these characters in the same movie.
<v Speaker 3>And Chevy has said this is his favorite movie.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I felt like he got to be him. The
<v Speaker 1>director Michael Richie said that basically he would do two
<v Speaker 1>takes every time. First one by the script, second one
<v Speaker 1>Chevy do what you want to do, whatever you want. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>and he Chevy loved that, like he really just and
<v Speaker 1>you can tell, I mean, you can tell that he's
<v Speaker 1>I think you put it like, he's always winking at
<v Speaker 1>the camera.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he's very self aware. Yeah, you and I were
<v Speaker 3>talking a few minutes ago. The thing that makes Chevy
<v Speaker 3>so funny in his movies is that he's always smirking.
<v Speaker 1>He's very self aware.
<v Speaker 3>He we know, we're in on the joke, right, And
<v Speaker 3>we saw a video this week. Chevy's in his eighties now,
<v Speaker 3>and he.
<v Speaker 1>Doesn't seem to be as self aware. Yeah. It made
<v Speaker 1>me sad, like, what are we doing? Where are we going?
<v Speaker 1>He actually said where am I going? Where am I going?
<v Speaker 4>Yeah?
<v Speaker 3>Like yeah, But they took him to a put golf
<v Speaker 3>course called Caddy Shack and he went up and he's
<v Speaker 3>all right, I'm Chevy Chase and the guy was like.
<v Speaker 1>What Yeah, that's great. All right.
<v Speaker 3>So let's go through the Let's go through the cast
<v Speaker 3>of Fletcher real quick. Okay, So Jodn Baker is playing
<v Speaker 3>the police captain.
<v Speaker 4>You're serious? Ask anybody? Can I ask anybody? Now? How about?
<v Speaker 1>Can I call my mom?
<v Speaker 4>Tell her how much I love her?
<v Speaker 3>We talked about him in our Jimmy Buffet episode, actually
<v Speaker 3>not him specifically, but a role that he.
<v Speaker 1>Played walking Tall, Yes, where he played uh Sheriff Pusser.
<v Speaker 1>That's right, you for Pusser for Pusser, that's right. Jonn
<v Speaker 1>Baker also plays two different characters in the James Bond universe.
<v Speaker 1>Oh okay.
<v Speaker 3>He plays a good guy in GoldenEye and a bad
<v Speaker 3>guy in the Living Daylights.
<v Speaker 1>One of the few people to do that. That's interesting. Okay, okay.
<v Speaker 1>I love the way he handles this character too, because
<v Speaker 1>he's just an absolute slime ball, but he plays him
<v Speaker 1>as this kind of smiling, jovial We're just gonna laugh
<v Speaker 1>through all of this yeast a. Yeah.
<v Speaker 3>When he's when he's pointing the gun out of him
<v Speaker 3>in the jail cell and he's like, what's it gonna be,
<v Speaker 3>mister Fletcher, And he's like, hey, your beach. He's like,
<v Speaker 3>come on, may I, you know, come on out of there.
<v Speaker 3>It's like they're buddies now, you know, all right. Dana
<v Speaker 3>Wheeler Nicholson, she.
<v Speaker 1>Was smoking hot in this movie. My gosh, yeah.
<v Speaker 4>Who is it? It's John.
<v Speaker 2>John?
<v Speaker 4>Who? It's John John loves and I don't remember Don Cocks. Hi, Hi,
<v Speaker 4>I was hoping you'd say that. I just got out
<v Speaker 4>of the shower. Yeah, can I borrow your towel? Persect?
<v Speaker 4>My card is hit a water buffalo.
<v Speaker 3>Nice place you have here in her little tennis outfit, towel.
<v Speaker 4>Hit.
<v Speaker 1>She made Chevy laugh during the audition. She doesn't even
<v Speaker 1>remember what she said. He laughed.
<v Speaker 3>That was her in Yeah, And I think everybody was
<v Speaker 3>just kind of in love with her.
<v Speaker 1>She just cute, cute as she can be, not at
<v Speaker 1>all like she was in Tombstone. Yeah, she was in Tombstone.
<v Speaker 3>She played whites ou Yeah, that's right.
<v Speaker 1>Just yeah, totally, she's I'm surprised she didn't do more, honestly. Yeah.
<v Speaker 3>Here's my little titbit on her. Okay, I've got I'm
<v Speaker 3>ready to drop this bomb on you all kay. She
<v Speaker 3>is the granddaughter of Malcolm Nicholson. Is a name ring
<v Speaker 3>bell to you? He is the founder of National Allied Publications.
<v Speaker 1>Does that mean anything to you? That later became d
<v Speaker 1>C Comics? Wow? Wow, how about that? I hate to backtrack,
<v Speaker 1>but I forgot to bring up did you know that?
<v Speaker 1>In the in the Move to success as Chevy was,
<v Speaker 1>you know, driving taxicabs around? He also wrote for Mad magazine.
<v Speaker 1>I heard that isn't that crazy. I want to go
<v Speaker 1>look up and see what kind of storyline Chevy Chase
<v Speaker 1>came up.
<v Speaker 3>I used toill love Mad Magazine all the time, all
<v Speaker 3>the time. Okay, Tim Matheson plays Alan Stanwick.
<v Speaker 4>Yes, these will be open when they normally be locked. Sometimes, yes,
<v Speaker 4>sometimes know the staff usually forget. Oh yeah, I have
<v Speaker 4>the same trouble with my home.
<v Speaker 1>This is a beautiful tie to the to all of
<v Speaker 1>these things because last year we covered Revenge of the
<v Speaker 1>Nerds versus Animal House. We did, which is of course
<v Speaker 1>directed by John Landis. Yes, and John Landis didn't want
<v Speaker 1>Chevy Chase to be in Animal House, but he was
<v Speaker 1>the he was the obvious choice at the time, but
<v Speaker 1>you got Belushi in there. He didn't want it to
<v Speaker 1>be a Saturday Night Live reunion thing, and he knew
<v Speaker 1>that Chevy wanted to be a star, and so he
<v Speaker 1>reversed psychology to him, and he was like, you're gonna
<v Speaker 1>love this. You're gonna be part of this big ensemble piece.
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's gonna likely you're a big part of
<v Speaker 1>this big group. And he was like, yeah, I'm out. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>And then of course John Landis cast Chevy Chase in
<v Speaker 1>one of the movies we're talking about today in spies
<v Speaker 1>like us hundred percent. But who do they have come
<v Speaker 1>into the role of Otter for Animal House Matheson and
<v Speaker 1>Matheson and here they are in Fletch together.
<v Speaker 3>I've got a funny Tim Mathieson story for you.
<v Speaker 1>Okay.
<v Speaker 3>First of all, that's that's great little tie in right
<v Speaker 3>there with John Landis and Animal House and all that stuff. Okay,
<v Speaker 3>and we've actually got another tie with Fred the Dwarf
<v Speaker 3>Doorfman here in a second, Maybe should just hit that.
<v Speaker 1>While we're here. Well, okay, So in Fletch, he stands
<v Speaker 1>up in the middle they're having like it looks like
<v Speaker 1>a rotary club or something like that, Kawanas ring or something, right,
<v Speaker 1>big honorary there, and he stands up and does this
<v Speaker 1>this thank you and you know, doing a speech. Nobody
<v Speaker 1>knows who he is, Fred the Dwarf Dorfmann as they're
<v Speaker 1>all coming in and Fred Dorfman apparently is the brother
<v Speaker 1>of Flounder Darfman from Animal That's right, Yeah, so I
<v Speaker 1>guess it all ties. What a nice little ti there.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So here's my funny story with Tim Tim Matheson. Okay,
<v Speaker 3>we have talked in the past about who had the
<v Speaker 3>greater twenty four hours in the eighties. Is it Lionel Richie.
<v Speaker 1>Richie or is it Billy Joel Billy Joel.
<v Speaker 3>Right right, I present to you Tim Matheson Okay, okay.
<v Speaker 3>So he was some special birthday, maybe his thirtieth birthday, okay.
<v Speaker 3>And for his thirtieth birthday, he got a knock on
<v Speaker 3>the door. He's a Hollywood actor, knock on the door.
<v Speaker 3>One of his next door neighbors, young hot woman is like,
<v Speaker 3>guess what here, I am your birthday present. So she
<v Speaker 3>gives herself to him as his birthday present.
<v Speaker 1>Okay.
<v Speaker 3>So she leaves, knock, knock, knock. Another neighbor comes over here.
<v Speaker 3>I am happy birthday.
<v Speaker 1>Okay.
<v Speaker 3>Now he had a girlfriend who is out of town.
<v Speaker 3>Keep that in mind, okay, Okay. After she leaves, knock knock, knock, here,
<v Speaker 3>I am happy birthday.
<v Speaker 1>Okay.
<v Speaker 3>Except this third woman, this is Kirsty Alley. Okay, okay, yeah,
<v Speaker 3>So keeping we're keeping count at home.
<v Speaker 1>This is number three. Yeah, and Kirsty Alley's peak hottness.
<v Speaker 3>No, dad, he said she was the wild girl from
<v Speaker 3>which tah right, okay. And after afterwards they're laying in bed, knock, knock, knock.
<v Speaker 3>His girlfriend had flown home to say happy birthday, and
<v Speaker 3>so Christy ally goes out the side window.
<v Speaker 1>Gosh, girlfriend comes in town. Happy birthday. Here I am.
<v Speaker 1>I hope he was stalking some Oh my lord, So
<v Speaker 1>there you go. Tim Matheson Otter similar, Yeah, okay, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>all right, all right.
<v Speaker 3>Richard Libertini, he plays Frank, He plays the boss at
<v Speaker 3>the newspaper.
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I love him, right, he's hilarious.
<v Speaker 4>Pat's him is a story. There's a source behind him. Well,
<v Speaker 4>they were in a kind of a gray area. All right,
<v Speaker 4>oh gray charcoal.
<v Speaker 1>He's shaking the coffee.
<v Speaker 3>Here's my tidbit on him. That's gonna blow your socks off.
<v Speaker 3>Do you know he was married too? He was married
<v Speaker 3>to Melinda Dillon. Does that name ring a bell to you?
<v Speaker 1>It does ring a bell for me, but I can't
<v Speaker 1>remember why.
<v Speaker 3>She was one of the girls, one of the ladies
<v Speaker 3>in Close Encounters of the Third Kind.
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah, okay, I know you're talking about. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
<v Speaker 1>She's the mom of the little kid who gets pulled away. Yes,
<v Speaker 1>and she's also the mom in Christmas Story.
<v Speaker 3>Yes, yeah, she was married to this guy. The Mom
<v Speaker 3>from the Christmas Story. Interesting, m Emmett Walsh was also
<v Speaker 3>in this movie. He's doctor Jellyfinger.
<v Speaker 1>Isn't there a children's book about an elephant named.
<v Speaker 4>Bar I don't know. I don't have any no children,
<v Speaker 4>no elephant books.
<v Speaker 1>Right, Yes, I can't see that guy and not think
<v Speaker 1>about him shooting at at Steve Martin in The Jerk.
<v Speaker 2>The Jerk.
<v Speaker 1>He hates these cans? Are you gasper?
<v Speaker 3>He was also in Blade Runner, which we've talked about. Yeah,
<v Speaker 3>and he was in Raised in Arizona. Yeah, not that mother.
<v Speaker 1>Scratcher, That mother scratch Have.
<v Speaker 3>You ever heard of the Stanton Walsh rule?
<v Speaker 1>And not ringing a bell for me?
<v Speaker 3>Okay, so apparently this is a rule that it's kind
<v Speaker 3>of well known around Hollywood that if you have Dean
<v Speaker 3>Stanton or m Mt Walsh in your movie, it automatically
<v Speaker 3>makes your movie good.
<v Speaker 1>I can see that.
<v Speaker 3>Actually, they called the Stanton Walsh rule. Yeah, okay, the
<v Speaker 3>exception to that rule Wild Wild West. I guess Walsh
<v Speaker 3>was in Wild wld West. Yeah, So okay, quickly, you've
<v Speaker 3>got George went who plays fat Sam.
<v Speaker 1>Norm Norm from Cheers, Right he just lost him? Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I just lost him.
<v Speaker 3>So He plays fat Sam Okay, Gena Davis in an
<v Speaker 3>early role from.
<v Speaker 1>Her Dude, she was smoking hot back in nineteen eighty five,
<v Speaker 1>looking good and immensu member.
<v Speaker 3>Limber and smart, smart and an Olympic qualifier in archery?
<v Speaker 1>What come on?
<v Speaker 3>All that and looks too?
<v Speaker 4>Yeah?
<v Speaker 1>Okay? How about uh?
<v Speaker 3>So here's the one we talked about before, Kenneth Mars.
<v Speaker 3>He plays Gale Stanton's dad, the head of Boyd Aviation.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah, yeah.
<v Speaker 3>You and I were talking about him. You recognize I
<v Speaker 3>did not.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's the he's the commandant in Young Frankenstein, the
<v Speaker 1>guy I got the picture, the nice grouping. Yes, yeah, yeah.
<v Speaker 3>Okay, so he's obviously that main character in Young Frankenstein.
<v Speaker 3>Here's the one that blew me away. He is the
<v Speaker 3>voice of King Triton in The Little Mermaid.
<v Speaker 1>I consider myself a reasonable murmur.
<v Speaker 3>I set certain rules, and I expect those rules to
<v Speaker 3>be obeyed.
<v Speaker 4>But is it true you rescued a human from drowning?
<v Speaker 1>Daddy, I had contact? Oh yeah, I could see that
<v Speaker 1>now that you said I did not know that. How
<v Speaker 1>about that one? Yes? Great? Okay?
<v Speaker 3>Uh. You have Larry Flash Jenkins as Gummy Do you
<v Speaker 3>recognize him?
<v Speaker 1>He was he in total recall?
<v Speaker 4>Am I remembering that? Right?
<v Speaker 1>No, that's the different guy. Okay, then I don't know.
<v Speaker 3>He is one of the car attendants in Ferris Bueller's
<v Speaker 3>Day Off.
<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, the yeah, the one where the car is cresting.
<v Speaker 3>He's like, yeah. You also have James Avery, who plays
<v Speaker 3>Will Smith's dad in the Fresh Princeville area.
<v Speaker 1>Oh right, yeah, he's one of the two goon cops. Yep, yep,
<v Speaker 1>you told me the other goon cop was one of
<v Speaker 1>the football players in UH sixteen. She's a child, Jake.
<v Speaker 1>What do you think of her? I try not to, right,
<v Speaker 1>he's the guy who's doing the pull ups. Then you
<v Speaker 1>panned back and you realize he's just standing there. And
<v Speaker 1>then you also have Alison LaPlaca.
<v Speaker 3>We talked about her. She plays the pan Am clerk.
<v Speaker 2>Stand like.
<v Speaker 1>You are confirmed on PanAm flight four forty one to
<v Speaker 1>Rio de Janeiro tomorrow evening eleven pm, first class.
<v Speaker 4>That's terrific. Thank you you're reconfirmed this morning? You bet
<v Speaker 4>I did. I'm a bear for detail. I hope there's
<v Speaker 4>nobody sitting next to me. You see, I always travel
<v Speaker 4>first class and I take both seats up. I'm afraid
<v Speaker 4>there is someone sitting next to you. Oh god, don
<v Speaker 4>don who is it? Mister Singlendon know the names Kavanaugh Kavanaugh?
<v Speaker 2>Ah?
<v Speaker 4>Is that Morris or Pierre? Sally Ann Kavanaugh Sally Anne?
<v Speaker 4>Well terrific. In fact, you purchased the ticket form as Kavanaugh.
<v Speaker 4>Doesn't mean I want to sitting next to me, does it?
<v Speaker 1>Oh? Right? Yeah? She was the she's the boss. She's
<v Speaker 1>Rachel's boss from friends. That's right. Yeah. Yes.
<v Speaker 3>And then finally you have who dies.
<v Speaker 1>Like gets hit acrossing the road or something like that.
<v Speaker 1>I remember that, that's right, Yeah, that's right.
<v Speaker 3>You have Chick Hern, the voice of the Los Angeles Lakers.
<v Speaker 1>Yes, and you have Kareem abdul Jabbar. Yes.
<v Speaker 3>How about Fletch? Yeah, well Fletch helps us win. He
<v Speaker 3>does all the hard stuff.
<v Speaker 1>Look at him shake Defenders six five six nine with
<v Speaker 1>the afro. That scene is so funny.
<v Speaker 3>Did you know that they had him as a hockey
<v Speaker 3>player and as a picture and baseball pitcher as well.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, you can see pictures early posters that shows
<v Speaker 1>him as the hockey player with the picture scene. This
<v Speaker 1>ties into a scene that they left in the movie
<v Speaker 1>that didn't really make a whole lot of sense. But
<v Speaker 1>in the picture scene he or in the Dodgers scene,
<v Speaker 1>he is playing a picture and Tommy Lesorta comes in
<v Speaker 1>and takes him out of the game. Yes, and then
<v Speaker 1>you have this moment where he punches the picture and chief, Hey, hey,
<v Speaker 1>Tommy Lisorda. That's how that all makes sense. That's right.
<v Speaker 3>Dodgers and the La Kings pre Wayne Gretzky La Kings.
<v Speaker 1>Right, all right, so are we ready to talk about
<v Speaker 1>next movie, which is European Vacation. Let's talk about European Vacation.
<v Speaker 4>I want to write, I want to paint, I want
<v Speaker 4>to sculpt something massive. I want to I gotta creative.
<v Speaker 2>Urge to Yeah, I wonder if there's a men's room here?
<v Speaker 4>Anything?
<v Speaker 1>Okay. So obviously with this one you have a very
<v Speaker 1>easy This is a sequel to a absolute smash from
<v Speaker 1>nineteen eighty three. Clearly you gotta have Chevy Chase come back.
<v Speaker 1>Clearly you got to have Beverly DiAngelo come back. And
<v Speaker 1>then Anthony Michael Hall goes and f stuff's up by
<v Speaker 1>agreeing to do this weird movie called Weird Science.
<v Speaker 3>She does Weird Science instead of this movie.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So Dana Baron played Audrey in the first one.
<v Speaker 1>She was cast as Audrey in European Vacation. But when
<v Speaker 1>they couldn't get Anthony Michael hall Amy, Heckerling's like, well,
<v Speaker 1>we're going to change both the kids then, and that's
<v Speaker 1>how you get into this habit of different kids in
<v Speaker 1>every single Vacation movie.
<v Speaker 3>I think that kind of sucks for Dana Baron, sure,
<v Speaker 3>but the girl who steps in and plays her, yeah,
<v Speaker 3>is funny, she's good, she's comedic, she's got she does
<v Speaker 3>some stuff that's fun.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. She was sad, Yes, sad moment she passed away
<v Speaker 1>at thirty two. She had struggled with diabetes her whole
<v Speaker 1>life since a little girl. Actually, it's what caused her
<v Speaker 1>to have to get out of something she was involved
<v Speaker 1>sports or something like that she was involved in and
<v Speaker 1>move into acting, which, okay, you know, she got cast
<v Speaker 1>quite a bit as a child actor and then because
<v Speaker 1>of the diabetes, started doing voiceover work later on in
<v Speaker 1>her career. But yeah, tragically it got her at age
<v Speaker 1>thirty two, very young, very young. Yeah, So obviously we
<v Speaker 1>the first vacation we talked about, and that was a
<v Speaker 1>John Hughes creation. From his days writing for National Lampoon magazine.
<v Speaker 1>This one is based on the same characters, but he
<v Speaker 1>doesn't just get a character's thing. He gets a writing
<v Speaker 1>credit on this because a lot of the ideas from
<v Speaker 1>those original stories they used in this. Even though he
<v Speaker 1>said he didn't even know they made the movie until
<v Speaker 1>he saw a preview for it on TV. How crazy
<v Speaker 1>is that? That's ridiculous. Like he's like, hey, they're making
<v Speaker 1>a sequel to my movie. Yeah, I mean, how do
<v Speaker 1>you not just mention it to John Hughes. I mean,
<v Speaker 1>because he's hot at that moment, he's got sixteen candles
<v Speaker 1>this come out. He's in the middle of breakfast club
<v Speaker 1>and about to do weird science dealer. Yeah. I don't
<v Speaker 1>know how that happens.
<v Speaker 3>But so they took the pieces that, like the leftover
<v Speaker 3>pieces from the first movie, incorporated them into the script,
<v Speaker 3>and then they asked, So John Hughes is unavailable or
<v Speaker 3>I guess they didn't even try. Yeah right, Well, he's
<v Speaker 3>busy with breakfast club and.
<v Speaker 1>Doing other things. Let's not bother him. So this guy named.
<v Speaker 3>Robert Clain filled in the gaps.
<v Speaker 1>Robert Klaine famous four week Beekend at Bernie's what Yes,
<v Speaker 1>which is funny.
<v Speaker 3>Yes, okay, now here's the interesting thing. Okay, So Harold
<v Speaker 3>Raimus directed Vacation. Okay, he's busy playing Egon in Ghostbusters,
<v Speaker 3>which huge movie for nineteen eighty four. Sure, okay, So
<v Speaker 3>they get Amy Heckerling just coming off fash Times at
<v Speaker 3>Richemont High and Johnny Danger.
<v Speaker 1>Is dangerously that's right. And you know the the honeymoon couple,
<v Speaker 1>the Garlands. Yes, missus Garland was like the main like
<v Speaker 1>the girl and girl in Johnny Danger like his wife
<v Speaker 1>or whatever, his girlfriend whatever she is, get out of here. Wow, Okay,
<v Speaker 1>I think he's gonna port her dad. No, he's not
<v Speaker 1>gonna work. He my porkers. That's two episodes in a
<v Speaker 1>real got his hand on her boop. All right.
<v Speaker 3>So do you remember the connection between Harold Ramis and
<v Speaker 3>Amy Heckerling.
<v Speaker 1>Get it out. It's in there. It's in there. Man,
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna have to remind me to go. We haven't
<v Speaker 1>got time for me to search you the mental mansion.
<v Speaker 1>I know there's something there be, So Harold, Harold, wait wait,
<v Speaker 1>they have a child together.
<v Speaker 3>They have a love child together, that's right.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and she's an actress too, Molly Heckerling. Molly Heckerling
<v Speaker 1>just looked her up. Yes, born September of eighty five.
<v Speaker 1>That would mean and that's that's the eighth month this
<v Speaker 1>movie was shot in late eighty four. That would mean
<v Speaker 1>the hookup between Harold Ramis and Amy Heckerling was going
<v Speaker 1>on as he was finishing up Ghostbusters and she was
<v Speaker 1>in the process of about to film or finishing filming
<v Speaker 1>European Vacation.
<v Speaker 3>Egan getting some from a fan.
<v Speaker 1>Wow, how about that. Now here's the other thing. Yeah.
<v Speaker 3>So Amy Heckerling took that experience with Harold Ramis, director
<v Speaker 3>of Vacation.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he directed the first vacation, she directed the second one. Yes,
<v Speaker 1>and while she's directing the second one, he impregnates her. Yes,
<v Speaker 1>that's crazy. Okay wow.
<v Speaker 3>And from that experience she goes on and makes another movie.
<v Speaker 1>Uh huh called oh oh, the one with Diane Keaton.
<v Speaker 3>No, baby Boom, No, it's not baby Boom.
<v Speaker 1>Look who's talking? Oh that's right, looking with Kirsty Ally,
<v Speaker 1>with Kirsty Alley, Oh my gosh. Yeah. And she cast
<v Speaker 1>her daughter in those two movies like she was in
<v Speaker 1>Look Who's talking? And Look Who's talking? Too, like she
<v Speaker 1>was a baby in one of them and a little
<v Speaker 1>girl in the other one. There you go, I think
<v Speaker 1>that's mind blowing. That is crazy. Okay, we just kind
<v Speaker 1>of came up with that on the spot right here.
<v Speaker 3>All right, let's go through the rest of the cast. Okay,
<v Speaker 3>we have Beverly di'angelo back as Ellen Griswold.
<v Speaker 1>Minute you walked in the joint, I could see you
<v Speaker 1>a man of distinction a real bit. We talked about
<v Speaker 1>her strong memories. Yes, she We talked about her quite
<v Speaker 1>a bit when we talked about every which way but
<v Speaker 1>loose and anyway the way you can remember the.
<v Speaker 3>Character she played Peaches what was it echo Echo what?
<v Speaker 1>Yes? And we found out that she had sang backup
<v Speaker 1>for the group that became the band after she left
<v Speaker 1>the band.
<v Speaker 3>You know, speaking of bands, we didn't even mention the
<v Speaker 3>fact that Chevy Chase played drums for what would become
<v Speaker 3>Steely Dan.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the two like two founding members of Steely Dan
<v Speaker 1>were in a band with Chevy Chase before Steely Dan.
<v Speaker 1>I can't remember what the name of the band was though.
<v Speaker 1>That'll be a tribute question for you guys. If you
<v Speaker 1>guys know the band name that Chevy Chase was in
<v Speaker 1>with the guys from Steely Dan before they were the
<v Speaker 1>guys from Steely Dan. You tell us in the comments
<v Speaker 1>yacht Rock that rock band Steen Henry will come up
<v Speaker 1>in any episode we have a chance to bring it up.
<v Speaker 1>Then I think, oh, it's so good.
<v Speaker 3>They did not like Van labeled yat Rock.
<v Speaker 1>Okay.
<v Speaker 3>So in Dana Baron's spot, you have Dana hill Ye
<v Speaker 3>who played Audrey. She was in a TV movie called
<v Speaker 3>Fallen Angel. Do you remember that I watched that as
<v Speaker 3>a kid. I was talking to Kathy. We both have
<v Speaker 3>memories of this.
<v Speaker 1>It was like.
<v Speaker 3>A little girl who somehow gets wrapped into like like
<v Speaker 3>a child pornography ring. It was very disturbing.
<v Speaker 1>I haven't seen it in forty years. Oh my goodness.
<v Speaker 3>But she's like somebody's stepdad is trying to get her
<v Speaker 3>to shoot nudie pictures.
<v Speaker 1>It was very, very disturbing.
<v Speaker 3>It's like a TV It's like an after school.
<v Speaker 1>Special type of thing. ROAs Okay, okay.
<v Speaker 3>The guy who plays Rusty is Jason Lively. Yes, okay,
<v Speaker 3>Now he was in Night of the Creeps.
<v Speaker 1>You you did an episode I did so.
<v Speaker 3>Jeff Johnson, Johnson and film my podcast.
<v Speaker 1>Yes, so check that one out. Okay, everybody here's a
<v Speaker 1>fan of The Knight of the Creeps. Right, good news,
<v Speaker 1>good news your dates here, bad news, they're dead. It's
<v Speaker 1>such a fun movie. Oh my gosh, real me.
<v Speaker 3>So Jason Lively his mom was like a involved in
<v Speaker 3>casting for movies, which is how he conceived. His sisters
<v Speaker 3>are Robin Lively and Blake Lively.
<v Speaker 1>Blake Lively married to Ryan Reynolds. Wow wow, how about
<v Speaker 1>that interesting? Okay?
<v Speaker 3>All right, So at the beginning of The Pig and
<v Speaker 3>the Pope, you've got John Aston, who we talked about
<v Speaker 3>in the.
<v Speaker 1>Goonies, right because he was the alleged father one of
<v Speaker 1>three possibilities with Patty Duke of Sean Aston.
<v Speaker 3>Yes, that's true. You also have William Zabka playing Jack.
<v Speaker 1>Johnny from Karate Kid, which we covered versus Last Dragon.
<v Speaker 1>Go check that episode out.
<v Speaker 3>And we've built built quite the library. I want to
<v Speaker 3>talk about Mel Smith. We've moved now to England. He
<v Speaker 3>is the hotel manager.
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, you texted me. He's the guy who's speaking English.
<v Speaker 1>Nobody can understand him.
<v Speaker 4>I'm a Clark w Griswold. We're from the United States.
<v Speaker 4>Of America, and I believe we have reservations for four now.
<v Speaker 4>The one rules of Cotton. He places full of macaroone
<v Speaker 4>to my own gymans, pap down want travel. Why daddy's
<v Speaker 4>speaking English?
<v Speaker 1>I know?
<v Speaker 3>And you're like, you know who this guy is? And
<v Speaker 3>I text you back the bit of despair. Dispair shouldn't
<v Speaker 3>even think about trying to escape? Yes, So he's in
<v Speaker 3>the Princess Bride.
<v Speaker 1>Original hotel, Clerk. And then while they're in the hotel
<v Speaker 1>and she's in the bath, and Clark walks out whistling
<v Speaker 1>a tune that the other guy overhears, and what was
<v Speaker 1>aus he's walking back in and she thinks she's talking
<v Speaker 1>to Clark. That's Robbie Coltrane, who is very famous for
<v Speaker 1>playing Hagrid in the Harry Potter series. That's right, among
<v Speaker 1>many others.
<v Speaker 3>Obviously, you remember we talked about when Robbie Coltrane made
<v Speaker 3>his feature film debut and all he was doing was
<v Speaker 3>unloading a suitcase.
<v Speaker 1>Was this in a James Bond movie? He was in
<v Speaker 1>a James Bond He was in GoldenEye. Okay, but that
<v Speaker 1>wasn't what I was talking about. You'll have to give
<v Speaker 1>it to me. I can't remember he was.
<v Speaker 3>In Flash Gordon at the very beginning.
<v Speaker 1>I literally had that thought go through my head and
<v Speaker 1>I was like, no, that's not it.
<v Speaker 3>Haang it little know no speaking part in that, right, Okay,
<v Speaker 3>all right? You also have Eric Idol, who plays the biker.
<v Speaker 4>Well, I think I got to have it now, Please
<v Speaker 4>please let me help you.
<v Speaker 1>Oh no, no problem nor no harm, dumb, it doesn't
<v Speaker 1>doesn't hunt much at all.
<v Speaker 4>Let me pay for the damage. Oh good, heavens no,
<v Speaker 4>no need for money.
<v Speaker 1>No, no, best part of the movie, like every time
<v Speaker 1>he's in there, I am laughing. And then the throwback
<v Speaker 1>speaking of Monty Python, it all comes full circle. Chevy
<v Speaker 1>Chase gets his SNL part waiting in line for Monty
<v Speaker 1>Python the Holy Grail. Eric Idol, of course, is one
<v Speaker 1>of the main Monty Python guys in The Grail. And
<v Speaker 1>in the Holy Grail you have the battle with the
<v Speaker 1>Black Knight where he cuts off his leg and he's
<v Speaker 1>it's like your legs up, it's a flesh wound. And
<v Speaker 1>Eric Idol re says that line or not Re says it,
<v Speaker 1>because it was John Cles originally said it who they
<v Speaker 1>considered for that part. Yeah, absolutely, but yes, brings it
<v Speaker 1>all back, so fricking funny. That part is hilarious.
<v Speaker 3>When he's like pointing, He's like, you go down and
<v Speaker 3>and just blood.
<v Speaker 1>She's like ah, and she's trying to clean his leg.
<v Speaker 3>He's like, it's just a leg. Honestly, I have another one.
<v Speaker 3>Super funny.
<v Speaker 1>Eric was.
<v Speaker 3>In fact, he and Chevy Chase became friends, so much
<v Speaker 3>so that they thought about making a vacation movie called
<v Speaker 3>Swiss Family. Griswold's I thought it was Vacation Australia. Well,
<v Speaker 3>they had two different ideas. Okay, I think one was
<v Speaker 3>on a cruise ship. Okay, yeah, the vacation Australia. All
<v Speaker 3>they could come up with was a shark attack idea
<v Speaker 3>and then they gave up. Still what we could have
<v Speaker 3>had there, it would have been funny.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, all right.
<v Speaker 3>The only other notable person that I could find in
<v Speaker 3>European vacation is the girl from California that Rusty meats
<v Speaker 3>while in Rome. I asked you if you recognized her,
<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't blame it if you didn't. That's Moon Unit Zappa.
<v Speaker 3>That's Frank Zappa's daughter. The song that Valley Girl was
<v Speaker 3>written about, right Beverly DiAngelo was friends with Frank Zappa
<v Speaker 3>and his family, and that's how Moon got that.
<v Speaker 1>Part musical connection. I bet there you go.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, remember when we talked about Frank Zappa.
<v Speaker 1>We've talked about him several times, but the biggest story
<v Speaker 1>is when Steve Lukether went into audition for him and
<v Speaker 1>got his head cut. Basically, that's it.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he got embarrassed by Frank Zappa.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, all right, So that does it for European Vacation.
<v Speaker 1>We've run out of time for episode one. We will
<v Speaker 1>come back to you episode two, where we will talk
<v Speaker 1>to you about casting and stories on spies like us.
<v Speaker 1>We will talk about a surprising hit song from one
<v Speaker 1>of these movies. I'm not gonna tell you what it
<v Speaker 1>is yet, but major artist, big hit. You can't think
<v Speaker 1>of it. We couldn't either. All right, you'll join us
<v Speaker 1>next week when we'll talk about that, and then of
<v Speaker 1>course final judgment, who wins the gold, who wins the silver,
<v Speaker 1>and who wins the bronze. In the Chevy Chase nineteen
<v Speaker 1>eighty five, Trifecta does the darts and it's like, sorry,
<v Speaker 1>promise this never happens. It's funny. Did you switch arms
<v Speaker 1>on me here. How Come I got the weedy arm?
<v Speaker 4>Now?
<v Speaker 1>Oh I did. Sorry, that's okay anyway,