Ep. 385: WCW's SuperBrawl V (1995) (Part 2)

And we are so very much back, ladies and gentlemen. It is the
laps Fan Wrestling Podcast. It is WCW super Brawl five, nineteen ninety five
from the Baltimore Arena in Baltimore, Maryland, and it's the first ever meeting
of hul Cocain Invader Brother. So this drew a sellout as mentioned thirteen thousand
and three ninety which is just over ten thousand paid for one hundred and sixty
five thousand dollars gate. As Melzer said, the first w stuby showed a
drama than ten thousand paid. Since nineteen eighty nine, people wanted to see
Hogan Invader Boss. It's a real thing. Yeah, I believe it.
It's probably his most important well, no, the first Flare match was bigger,
but his second most important match of his WSW baby Face Run. Yeah,
I would imagine. I would imagine that's it. I mean, you
know, the Hogan Flair one had the ingenuity, but in terms of the
Hogan formula of the big Guy, this is it. This is the money
maker. Looks like it went from about absolutely absolute one for about one hundred
ten thousand buys for Super Bowl ninety four in the neighborhood of two hundred and
fifteen thousand byes for big time increase in. Yeah, for sure, definitely
an indication that people were very dialed in for Hulk in WCW and dialed in
against the Top Monster. Heel. It's exactly what you would expect to draw
when you sign him the guy. Yep, and they got to it.
Now. Of course there were dark matches, if it were callum Dark,
well, they were main event matches as opposed to the main event of the
show. Absolutely. They were Paul Orndorf defeating Brad Armstrong, Stars and Stripes
defeating Romeo Valentino and Dino Casanova, and arn Anderson retained his World TV title
against Johnny b Bad that won a lumberjack match featuring several participants in I didn't
know that there might be more dead people, that's true. Well most of
them were on the card elsewhere. Oh all right, all right, so
I don't think you missed too much. I don't know for particular, like
Alex Wright was out there, I think, but Blacktop Bully was out there.
And interestingly, this was a rematch from the prior Knights WCW Saturday Night
main event where Arn and Mark Merrill went to the time limit for the television
title and then a rematch the next night live on TBS. It's the match
everyone has been craving for, absolutely, and we heard how a Hulk through
others, according to Flair, felt about Arn, so definitely defined down off
the pay per view main event, a main card here, still part of
the stud stable and the TV champion at the time. Sure, sure,
And then to counteract those fears, Hogan would lose clean one, two three
to Arn on one of the early nitros. Remember that, Yes he would.
I do remember that huge deal. I think it's I guess it would
have happened after this. I don't know why. I feel like it happened
in January, but it was. It was a wacky it. Maybe in
January ninety six, there was no no, it was oh yeah, you're
right, ninety six. Of course ninety five had Netro hadn't happened, Ye
that was been January nuinder six. Yeah, absolutely, yep. I was
always that was wild like that was that was literally that was some crazy ass
shit because like Hogan was in the main event wrestling like three weeks in a
row, and it was just not it actually was. You know, you
know, I give Hogan a little bit of credit in terms of the variation
of his You know, everyone gives them a hard time for his pay per
view booking, but you know, on the Week of the Week TV,
he actually didn't make himself out to be invincible. No, at least in
that period, you know. Oh yeah, it was just he knew at
the end of the road he wasn't going to lose the bell was that was
the only thing, right, right, So those are the three matches,
and it's hard to call him dark matches. You might want to call them
light matches. They were probably viewed by more people than the pay per view
matches themselves. That's probably true. You're right, doing north of a million,
I think is what the you know, the average w W manav NTBs
audience would have been. But great promotion to get people to buy the pay
per view, So that was great. Did you ever so did you ever
watch Heat? Well, I mean you got you got every paper right back.
Yeah. I used to watch Heat and tape it and then tape the
pay per view because I was because you know, I I never watched Heat
unless I was buying a pay per view, like I just didn't even think
about heat. Oh yeah, I watched it weekly, but yeah, yeah,
I never. I never. I never watched it on days like even
just to get that little you know, I just forgot about it. And
I'm like, you know, I could watch wrestling at Sunday night, you
know, leading to a pay per view maybe convinced me to to spend my
parents' dime without them knowing it. It was so effective when they would do
that, man, I would just like it because there were a few instances
in life where I wasn't buying the pay per view, but I did watch
the Sunday pre show. Yeah, And that feeling in your gut when they
cut off the live feed and you know more is happening and you can't see
it. Yep, it's like torture. Yeah. I just I never,
not even on purpose. I just never put myself in that position. Well
saved yourself a lot of heartache, I can tell you that. Sure.
I vowed never again to let this happen by spending my parents' money on pay
per view and uh asking them when the cable bill came in so I could
highlight proof of purchase so that WWF would send me a free key chain,
right right or whatever? The Gift of the Month club was, Jack,
what did you do? Oh mom, there's something called ECW three a month
now, are you kidding? Well? Not every month? Three some months?
What the fuck? Well, they're extreme, they're importing the finest talent
from Mexico and Japan. There was nothing she could say at that point.
Yeah. I couldn't say anthing either, because I would know what the fun
you're talking about? How about eleven? How about an eleven dollars check to
Dave Meltzer for four weeks of the Observer. God, that's it. We
dip my toe in the water and for years, instead of paying for the
whole year, I would send him a check every four weeks. Oh my
god. I was so nervous whether the check would get there on time to
be entitled to the next issue. Well, Jack, you know it didn't
come in eleven dollars. You know I need that eleven dollars, saying,
goll, I don't blame you, your life's work. Absolutely, man.
Oh my god. So the main event pre show featured the aforementioned matches,
plus some some money investigations into you know, the the Vader hijiens. You
mentioned the Stars and Stripes versus the Jabrownis match. That's the one where Vader
just barches in and kills everybody. Ah. Absolute tremendous, Absolutely tremendous.
They showed him accosting limousines as they arrived, thinking hell Cogan was inside one
of them and one of them had a blonde in it. That's all they
could talk about. There was a blonde in the first limo that Vader came
out of. Who was the blonde? Who was blonde? They're doing a
very poor job of masking the idea that Flared and Vader are aligned here.
But on the on the main event pre show, maybe they weren't trying to
mask it. Maybe they're just like, you know, let's just I think
that's that's what I'm trying to say, exactly see. But on the man
event pre show, Genoklan tries to you know, some open speculation to set
the further hook for the pay per view purchase. I mean, Gene is
going to be trying to talk to I'm talking, I'm going to talk to
one man. I just verbally put him up against the wall back here on
the locker room area. I promise you during the course of Super Bowl tonight,
and this man is usually good to his word. I will be talking
live here in Baltimore to the nature boy, Rick Blair. You can put
that down in your book. That will happen, all right, I tell
you what, it's going to be interesting. Indeed, any indication as to
who is in that first limo with Vader when it first pulled up, well,
I'll tell you what. There was a lot of blond hair. I
think we've established this if we were sitting at a courtroom out of Los Angeles
right now with Judge Ito up there. I think it have to take a
look at the facts. Somebody blonde was in that limousine. Who do we
know? Who? Do the three of us know it? What does this
capacity crowd? No, that has a lot of blonde hair besides you and
I, Dusty, Well, you know, excuse me, but I'm gonna
tell you what. That's a fact. You know, I was looking around
seeing that old stated read Bobby Heenon not counterpoled around here. So you're coming
out with the news thoughts the thought I could have been heten. But I
tell you who, I think you might be talking with him own Super brawl
on pape of you. I won't mention it, and you already have bon
friend that Nature bar is in town. So Dusty just said, I won't
mention his name, but I'll mention his nickname, the Nature Boys in Town.
I mean, I uh, you know again, I think it could
be Hogan. I mean the thing is, they have no plan to deliver
anything like on this front. I mean, we kind of can triangulate that
it was Ric Flair because at the end he ends up, you know,
in alliance with Vader. But there's no reveal. It doesn't even matter if
he was, Like, who cares if he's in Almo? What does that
even mean? Like, why is that significant? I thought it was a
very strange. It's ridiculous. But there's Flair and you know, gene oakerl
enacting like it's this big coup to corner Rick Flair, when just the night
before on TBS he just did a straight up interview on the Saturday Night set
with Flair, who said a series of things about how he's tired of sit
at home watching wrestling and it's time to get back involved. He even says
I might just have to buy out Ted Turner even says that wow to get
back into the business, so everyone knew he was as close to returning to
the scene, and thus he does here in Baltimore. Also in the main
event, Dusty rhoades as only he can. And this is a big shout
out to Matt for isolating this observation because it's an easy one to miss,
But I think a really potent one is it regards Vader. Here's Dusty really,
I think crystallizing on the main event as the pay per view is about
to start. What makes Vader so unique in nineteen ninety five, Without a
doubt, I have never seen a man with disability to be that big with
I've never seen a man with disability to be that big, she thought,
He said, I've never I've never sebility disability to be so big. It
sounded like, oh, oh my god, which it's not, Daddy.
I've never seen a disability this big before in Vader. That's one way to
put it. I mean, it's it's kind of in politic but I get
what you're saying, disability because they keeps eating so much fucking food. You
know what I'm saying, Daddy. So we start the pay per view with
like you know, trippy images of Hogan and Jimmy and Vader for your brother.
Fucking it's it's, it's it's back in this bizarre back and forth between
Vader and this nightmare montage. Yeah right, lad, I'm ready for your
brother and dad waiting is over all you focused on was just frushing deep?
Is there and there is coming after your brother? The only thing you have
to fear, brother, this fear itself. We're gonna find out who the
man is, who has no fear? Who build you'll pay? Fine?
Focus, man, I'm gonna cut you down the side. What you gonna
do? What Harmonia super screaming about it? Such a fucking oaf so Tony
Schimani welcomes us in with the pop gun pyro. It's the Baltimore Arena.
Oh here, I got this whole thing because because he a Vince McMahon level
awkward intro promour bris on the line broad, They're kind of seat to be
had. Fuck up, has any crowd on head at the arena? One
of the tree Hole Professional Wrestling Ted Welcome to super Brawl Sunday from the arena.
That's there's so much repetition in there is is that a phrase, there's
not a seat to be had, I get. I guess, I don't
know if I've heard that one. Super Brawl Ladies and gentlemen. Well,
Sunday, it's super Brawl Sunday. Get the banner hanging from the rafters.
It's super Here we are at the Baltimore Arena, one of the greatest arenas
of all time, and here welcome to super Brawl Sunday at the Arena.
I think the Sunday nights at the Arena. It sounds like a like a
documentary made about wrestling exactly right in Saint Louis or something. Oh, we
get the super Brawl banners hanging from the rafters with super on one line and
Brawl on the other like the also like the red kind of uh like maroonish
background for it too. Yeah. A fan of that, Yeah, totally.
Even though the the signature you know, color of the ww super Brawl
logo was orange with a touch of blue. Yep, they did mix it
up, I think rather effectively here. I agree. As we begin the
pay per view schedule of nineteen ninety five, it's Tony Shiavanni, Gen Oakland,
and Bobby Heenan in position with their purple clown nose microphones. Yes,
set up you know where announcers belong, with the audience behind them. Yep,
yep, the little platform. Absolutely, and Oakerland starts talking about how
he's had some serious second thoughts for Hulk Hogan because Vader not only wants the
title, he wants to put Hulk Cogan on the shelf. Tonight. He
went ballistic this entire weekend, and Gene personally wouldn't be surprised if hul Cogan
is permanently injured at the hands of Vader tonight. He didn't, said,
Vader's been stalking up and down the hallway smashing car windows. And of course
the first thing I noticed, and I don't know if you did. Yeah,
Heenan is lit. Oh my god, the slurge speech. I'll tell
you what. I didn't really pick up on it until I was recording the
sound bites, and I'm like, is he fucking drunk? Yeah, there
were no remarks and like the observer and stuff, So it must have been
a thing where if you didn't have the sound like piped into your ears like
we do watching these shows, you don't notice it is. It's rare I
don't do it much anymore. I usually watch it down in my office,
but but I actually watched this one completely upstairs in front of my TV,
and I was like, I didn't notice it. But then when I was
when I was looking at the time codes, I was like, wait a
minute, he sounds completely smashed here, like totally. Honestly, it's absolutely
amazing that he is able to put on the performance that he does at whatever
level of alcohol he limited he was at. I mean, he really sounds
like a police body cam of a traffic stop. Yep, yep. And
he sobers up towards the main event. By the Hogan match, he's good.
And that's you know, most of the most of the people watch the
show just watch that match, so they don't really realize that during Alex Wright
and Blacktop Bully and Jim Duggan, he's got his own unique way of getting
through it. I mean, there's no two ways about it, you know.
I Mean, he's the thing is he's on fire too. He's really
funny, and it's a it's a I think it's actually all things considered,
alcohol, you know and whatnot. I think it's a pretty darn good performance
that he puts on. See. I don't know, I mean maybe just
because I picked it up early, and so I was very observant of Tony
Shivanni's body language of being just totally frustrated and not feeding into anything Heenan was
putting down. Ah, I just know, I felt like Keenan had like
nine out of ten misses on this show, a lot of orphan lines that
you know, Tony didn't pick up on to go into work. He just
seemed to be saying something because he knew that he was like so off kielts
or that he doesn't really know what to say, but he knows he should
be saying something and he's sure. I don't know. It did get a
lot better towards the main event. I mean I was, you know,
every again, I didn't I wasn't able to hear the the slurge speech as
much when I on my initial viewing of it, and I don't recall,
like to me, the the Shavanni knowing like, you know, not knowing
that he was that he was a little you know, several sheets to the
wind that yeah, the torch and the observer, that he there might be
something to say after this, that it was just it was just uh,
Tony doing his no selling of it, like like you know Monsoon would do
occasionally or that, or Vince would do. Uh. You know, I
can't believe I've never said this before, I don't think, but you know,
when when they would talk about dirt sheets on the shows and the TV
stuff and like and mentioned dirt sheets, do you know what I used to
think that because I had no idea what I used to think it were Aftermags
those were the dirt sheets. Wow, Like that's where the truth was.
Well, you did feel like you had dirt in your fingers by the time
you finished flipping through one of those. Wash my hands several times during and
then my wet hands would ruin the paper. You know. It's a struggle
we all got through. But yeah, that's pretty funny. That dirty Yeah,
it was I don't know, it was prickicalarly bad. You know,
we've heard Giovanni talk about it. He's he's done podcasting about you know,
Heenan being drunk at hog Wild ninety six. That's really one of the big
standout ones. But this one has got to be up there Tony as far
as I know, and his podcast hasn't done like a watch along style,
which is usually where you pick up on those little nuggets. This sort of
stuff comes back to him, right. He does not look happy on this
show at all with h and Gene makes constant reference throughout the broadcast when they
pitched him backstage for interviews and go, you know, God, bless you
Tony Shavanni for having to work with him tonight, you know, commiserating almost
Oh, I said, you never picked up on that like as as as
that again, I mean because I watched it in a different different way.
Yeah, And maybe before you know it became known that this was an issue
with Bobby, you wouldn't have heard it either. You know, maybe you
have a maybe I have a particularly attuned year four knowing that this is something
that Tony years later would say with sometimes an issue. And it's not like
Tony went out there swinging on Bobby, even though Bobby hated his guts at
the end there. You know, it's not like he goes out swinging,
but he did sort of like a Q and A about it. And you
know, was asked about this particular issue with Jamen. Maybe he just had
a bad start to the night. I mean, Jesus Vader did try to
fucking rip his head off in the Limousine's true. So we cut to a
long white limo pulling in. The door opens and we see some long legs
on the ground for a second, I guess it's supposed to be Flaire's legs.
And then the lima door shuts and we don't know who that was,
but we're told it's blonde hair. I don't even see it, but I
mean, you hardly see it. It's like it's hardly there. But I
guess it. Yeah, I guess that's enough. Vader emerges better time,
better time, screaming. I mean, it's like pulling up to the White
Castle. That's how he gets out of this fucking car. And so it's
the White Castle Limo of fear here absolutely and a black wife beater with his
gloves and mask and sweatpants on in the limo and he shoves a camera.
Man, you keep your nose out of Vator's business. And then another limo
pulls up and he thinks it Hogan, and he screams at the limo.
Vader approaching limos like dogs do when they chase cars. Yeah, what are
you gonna do? When you catch it. I don't know. Well,
I know what Vader does? He win? Oh, and he slams his
hand in the hood. Oh, ad, I smell Hogan, I smell
buggers. I smell a number two. I smell number two, I smell
number one. I smell the whole fucking menu. He reaches in a limo
and hassles the driver, who's in a bow tie, and Jean says he's
got a hold of the guy. He's got a his tongue out, is
that what it says? His tongue in, And he's circling the car,
Hoga, And I can smell you what does he smell? Fucking tanning lotion?
Well, he smells that. But I'm but I'm sure Hogan had a
bite to eat beforehand. You know, again, as we established, Vader
does not eat before pay per view uh shows. So you know, Hogan
probably had a steak beforehand or whatever, and can smell the seasoning on his
fucking on his stash. That's right, that's that's right. Of course,
no one doing anything about this. As he tries to open the door,
and then, like you said, he puts his right hand right through the
window, and uh, can we advance it from there, Like, is
Vader really gonna stop it smashing the window? Isn't he gonna like get inside
the lema, You're gonna see who's inside, to see if Hogan's there or
not? Like, no, No, he's good with just hitting the window
in that you don't hear any noise. But then Tony gets out and scurries
away, and while he does, he screams back to Vader He's not in
the car. Hogan's not in the car. And I'm thinking he could have
just come out of the car and told him that, so he didn't.
Why is Tony in a lama? Well there's that too, But before Vader
did like a full fucking dismantling of this limousine, couldn't someone have just said,
Hulk Cogan's not in here, sir? Or couldn't they just driven away?
Like why couldn't when they saw that that that Vader was going nuts?
Right, you can still turn the engine on, guys. Let's let's back
out of here. Let's back up, back up, back the idea.
You know, Vader says, I wait for no man. Vader waits for
nobody, and we dissolved back to the building. Uh, five minutes,
by the way, have elapsed in this show and no match yet. Nope.
They show Vader on the main event TBS show going over the announced desk
and hassling Eric Bischoff and Dusty Rhodes and see the basic ass brown table they're
announcing on, which is something they kept hidden on the pay per view broadcast,
and Jean saying did he push bish Off? Nick Bockwinkle is going to
have a heyday finding this man. Do they show Vader going down the ramp
on the on the main events natching the American mails of a Heyday? Yeah,
that's right. He gets in the ring with Dale Wilkes and kicks his
ass and slugging at everyone in power Bomb it's one of the Jabroni's and clubbing
everyone with shots. I mean, this is exactly what we think about and
envision when we talk about Vader, like breaking down an old country buffet,
you know exactly. This is it. I mean, this is him when
he when he is when he's hangry. This is Vader when he's hangry.
Oh and he's eaten earlier too. This is not like again, imagine imagine
him now where he hasn't had a meal, all day, right, you
know in the camera I want him. Oh good, you can run,
but you get had the man is ere sounds good? Gary Michael capet Capetita,
a ring announcer from New York City. Paul Rama with his weird ass
sing lead on I don't know what that's It looks like Vader. It looks
like attribute to Vader pretty much in the black and everything, Like Jesus,
what the fuck is wrong with him? One half of Pretty Wonderful and I'm
a Paul Roma guy and that's just man, that's rough. Is the I'm
a Paul Roma Guy t shirt available at Progrestling Teas dot com. I think,
actually, I think I think it's actually taken already. I think,
uh, I've seen it somewhere. I feel like Tony has it. I
feel like Tony Shavani has it as one of his things, one of his
things. I know it was a thing, but I wasn't sure where I
saw it. One half pretty Wonderful with his red jacket and sparklers, Yeah,
sparkles on it and Orton Orton Paul O Orendworf is out with him.
The set is kind of you know that ninety five set, The basic glittery
curtain backdrop on both sides of the tron. That's yet, order's not there
yet. He comes out later okay, yeah, yeah, comes out mid
match. He's at the time. I meant to say he was with him
in terms of like as a tag team in WW. Now we get the
tron there that's made out of all those squares, the Hollywood Squares signo.
Yep, blue carpet runway bunch style, Yeah, pretty much. Style is
right blue all over the ring with yellow super Bowl logo in the center of
the canvas and WCW in all four corners of the ring on the mat Yep,
I like it. Yep, nice, Look this is the did the
compass WSW I like to call it. Yes, black ropes, yellow and
blue and turnbuckle patting. And here comes Alex Wright, who is fresh into
WCW at that point in time. Apparently he is Germany's youngest professional wrestler.
Yes, do we have stats on that? Do we know if he was
literally the youngest professional wrestler of the country of Germany. We have no stats
on that. Okay, I'd like to know truth, because I imagine there
are you know, I mean that he's not that he's not young, but
you know, I don't know. He is coming out to the music of
Berlin, that techno beat, the fun ky beats. Oh my god,
there he is, Pom pom. It's like, what is this? He
do that stupid dance instant heel. It's I know, it's so it's so
funny because like he's just a he They push him like a baby face.
But that dance really ruins it any sort of you know, any sort of
uh babyface. But it was wonderful and he was a heel. But yes,
yes, that's the whole point. He then calls him the wonder Punk
and uh, I'm here he uh he uh. I guess I have written
down and I remember what this is. But he questions the loyalty of the
fans of Alex right, I tell you, all these people shake his hand,
take no wonder He goes out on the gardy. I think his hand
there, I don't think enough. I guess that's what it was. And
he goes out in the gurney. Yeah, well, they probably won't want
to slap his hand because I might paralyze him. But that's true. Tony
says, it's jam to the rafters and the only way you can join this
is on pay per view. Tony, Well, we're here, Tony.
If you know what pal if if I haven't bought it already, I wouldn't
you know, I don't hear this your dumbass. Right Moon salts into the
ring and does the dance and Paul Roma immediately attacks him. He stands for
none of this, as he should. And the guess who pops when Paul
Roma attacks Alex Right? Who in the audience pops? The men that the
guys. You can hear the guys and they want they want nothing to do
with Alex Wrong. That's have we ever said that before? We must have.
No, we haven't said that. Ah, So Alex Right, I'm
Wonderkan's wunderkand yes, huh but it kinds boo me, I'm dous wunderkind.
Fuck it, fuck you, yes, fuck you all, and fuck you
two people. Well you can get a taste of that as the Sevelt Paul
Roma goes to work. There's some communication between the two and Right and kind
of like shrug something off. It's like he says no and Roma barely pressed
lams them like they were not on the same page at all, and we're
going to get into This match actually went down with a fair bit of lore
because it pretty much the match that got Paul Roma fired from WCW. No
shit, yep, it ever talks back on Flair talking shit on Roma because
he was such a poor four horseman member. There's that, but I think
there's even more so the level of conflict and the level of you know,
just what's the word I'm looking for, just not taking orders? Well under
Rick Flair's booking regime with Paul Roman, that was a big point of friction
for the Nature Boy. Definitely some dereliction of duty going on, but impressive
strength from Roma. Even though Alex Wright was not at all in position to
take the Gorilla Press, he still caught him up there, didn't he Absolutely?
And then Paul Roma mocks the dance. Romo's gonna get you up,
all right, that's the bottom line. Randy Anderson presiding whip and right with
a sunset flip gets too and you know there are some girls squealing when Alex
Wright gets some offense in so of course, look, you know he's he's
a you know, he's a good looking kid with you know that perfectly nineties
haircut and you know, good body and everything. So sure they're gonna they're
gonna wanna they're gonna wanna suck him off, slammish in Silver Springs or wherever
the fuck they're from. I've been wrong with that, right, just betting
them after the show. Yeah, oh god, you know, like he's
he's he's tall, he's got that that curl in the front of his hair.
Yeah, he's European, he's got the abs. Right, Absolutely,
he's he's you know, he's what you what you think about when you look
in the a fucking fashion magazine as a model. I don't see a lot
of guys like you come through Baltimore. So when you do, we're right,
that's right. Like the pony, We're gonna, we're gonna fucking line
up outside your your your hotel door, and we are gonna fuck you.
Wow, We're gonna take it. I wonder Flair loved Baltimore so much.
Sure, arm drags by Alex Right and then back to the fundamentals, Tony
says, is uh, Alex Right cart wheels through an arm dragon twist,
and that's that's Tony Tony the full arm draggon twist mode. Which isn't even
a fucking arm drags. It's an arm ringer all arm dragon twist Alex his
own. That's one of my favorite Tony is. I know, I just
nothing was dragged, not at all. Nothing was dragged. I mean maybe
Flair did the full arm dragon twist an uncensored, and then Roma yanks him
down by the hair and right keeps kipping up and right with a series of
them, and then kind of does that lucha arm drag where he runs up
the rope and then there's I guess you could say a judo hip throw by
right. There's a lot of miscues in this one. You can tell Paul
Roma is not in the frame of mind of let's make Alex Wright look as
good as possible in this one. Yeah, yeah, that gets too,
but he maintains the armlock. They talk about Flair having two ringside seats to
the show tonight, and out walks Pauloworen dwarf. Like you said, in
his robe doesn't make much sense because it's only there in himself. He's only
himself there. Yeah, and he cuts the promo saying I'm gonna have some
of Baltimore's finest ladies with me in the crowd, which he doesn't, but
on the clash in Vegas he did. He was surrounded by women in the
audience, So I don't know. Maybe there was just a last minute logistical
difficulty getting some of Baltimore's finest to come out to the venue. Listen,
you don't have to get Baltimore's finest. You can definitely get you know,
Baltimore's swinest. Sure aren't Baltimore strippers and NAYATSI that might have been the issue.
Yeah, that could have been it prevailing wage to hold Rick Flair's arm,
right, Warrendorf comes out, slaps the canvas. Come on, Roma
trying an egg on his tag team partner. That's something, that's that is
the uh, that's the top of his encouragement. All he fuckings come on?
Oh yeah, he's just as motivated as Paul is here. Fireman's carry
Byle's right, and like, watch those tights. He did say that,
come on, reugh watch those tights. Yes, we all are, I
mean, we've all listen, we haven't been able to take our eyes off
of Paul Roma's ugly tights. Absolutely. Paul Roma starts dropping some elbows,
does one with a big leap and then drops the straps and yep, thank
god, at least it looks semi normal. Now he drops the straps,
which is something pretty wonderful. Never got the chance to do. Where do
they lose the straps? I don't know. The Stars and Stripes, No,
they wouldn't they Well they did. They lost the Stars and Stripes and
they beat them at Halloween Havoc. I don't know where it goes from there.
Somehow they got on Harlem Heat. I don't really know how. Let's
figure it out. I mean that's key because Harlem Heat as kind of a
showcase match on this one. Yeah, they do one of them. They're
just starting to get really featured as a strong tag team. Let's see list
of world tag team champions. Arlem Heat won for the first time December eighth,
ninety four, defeating the Stars and Stripes. Who would beat pretty wonderful
again? Wow? Yeah, let's think They beat them on a Saturday Night
taping December eighth, nineteen ninety four, and it aired January fourteenth, ninety
five. It's wild ye right, and then the Nasties beat them for it
in May of nineteen ninety five at Slambury so yes, backbreaker. He lifts
Alex Right up like he's gonna do another one, and he does, and
then does a third one, putting that strength on display as Paul Roman and
then Orndorf likes what he sees at ringside. Right is dumb to the floor,
and Paul Winendorf thinks about going after him, but doesn't even do that.
They mentioned that Alex Right at the time was undefeated. And he comes
up on the apron slugging and tries to slingshot into the ring, but Paul
Roma, I guess, kind of power slams them out of mid air.
He just kind of like puts one arm out and guides him down to the
mat. Yeah. Referee Randy Anderson hardly administering a Dos wonder count there not
at all. Irish whip at a backdrop and uh no, in fact,
Paul Paul Wright, that's a good one. Ales Right hooks a backslide from
one inside cradle for two. Roma gouging at his face, get back and
control Right's hair A little wild here, a little hard to take him seriously.
The state of his hair is frized and elevated. Yep, it's not
okay, it's it's not poofing h Tony. Tony saying that that Orndorff hasn't
interfered because the referee has been keeping his eye on him. But Heenan Heenan
disagrees. Now once again orndorf is not becoming bauld But that's I think that's
put them off. The referee hit high on what's happening on the poor here.
No, no, no, Horner does something that will be illegal,
and he even do things like that. We're talking about the same guy,
Paul Arndoor apartment here, aren't we you. That's good, although I don't
know if that's him like doing stick or not. And you do get the
sense that Tony decides a few times to amuse himself by like asking heen in
a question, knowing that Heenan's like, should I actually know the answer to
this? God? Am I so fucked up that actually I missed the question?
Heenan also mutters the Wonder Punk has had some great mats. He says,
not matches mats. That's true, that's some good I've seen him actually
practice on mats. He does have some very good mats. And then Tony
says, this is one of the greatest cities in the world for wrestling in
Baltimore, and Heenan says they've been lined up all day for this. And
while he's saying that the crowd is chanting boring at a Paul wrote, madlock.
Yeah, lined up all day for this, I guess. Tony says,
uh, there was a girl in that limo early on, earlier on,
so they're still speculating widely about what we saw in the blonde here in
the limo. Heen says, everyone in life makes up the rules as they
go. Oh, yes, I have life lessons with a tipsy Bobby Heen.
You can do that. Let the guy down the man that's legal,
right, Well, you make up the rules that you go. Everybody,
guys in life, everybody makes the rules as they go. I think this
is okay, here's the middle. He what I mean, No one would
do that to be the chance. So you just beat them to the punch.
That's all it is. Come on, Tony, get with life is
tough a fight for what you have to get is that your motto? You
know, my motto is A friend of me is the best that was good.
That's like friends of Eddie Coyle. Life is hard, but it's harder
when you're stupid. Yes, Yes, Alex Right rises in a sleeperhold of
Paul Roman, back elbows out, throws some right hand whipping a dropkick,
but no, Roma hangs onto the ropes, and my god, do they
pop When Alex Right comes up empty on that drop kick attempt. They are
hungry for Alex to get fucking destroyed. Yes, then Paul Roma leaps.
They're even cheering for Paul Roma. They sure are. Well. He had
a way, you know, if he wanted to, he could show out
and do some really flashy things where people are like, this guy's awesome.
I'm with you, man, I think Paul Roma is an underappreciated wrestler.
He's just he had such a personality thing where it's like half the time when
he was looking great in the ring, he was doing it really because he
was motivated to piss somebody off, because he wasn't supposed to shine in the
match. That that's kind of why he had the reputation. He didn't have
such a short career. I think, despite great physical attributes and a good
work ethic in the ring, is he was just It's why I love him.
I mean, It's why he belongs in the hardcore Holly category. He's
like the hardcore Holly yep, just cranky as fuck, pissed taking everything personally.
He thinks everyone's getting pushed didn't quite deserve it, didn't quite do what
they needed to do to earn his respect. Just pissed off that anyone's getting
a push. I love it. He wants to be recognized as the locker
room leader, right ready to walk out at a moment's notice, savoring the
opportunity to quit, you know what I mean, loves the opportunity to say,
well, I guess I'm gone, then just I guess then exactly so
he leaps. He leaps, He leaps to the middle rope from the mat
while turning around. Guess he does because he's because he's awesome. And then
it goes to the top rope. Yeah, he does without even fucking I'll
tell you it was. It was impressive because he doesn't even do. He
doesn't even hold anything. He just walks up there. What can I ask
you about this elbow? Oh? I mean, what do we see here?
It's it's a it's it's a it's a it's a beautiful, beautiful elbow.
Does he touch the roof pretty much? I mean, he takes flight
like you've never seen. Listen, listen, I've seen this elbow before.
Okay, he does. He did this elbow at at Halloween Havoc in ninety
four when when Orndorf and and and he defeated Stars and Stripes. It's a
spectacular elbow. He gets incredible height and the way he lands is unreal,
and he lands and he gets up so fired up, so fucking gas that
the people are like deeply appreciative of this. And plus he knows it's him
showing off when the spotlight's supposed to be on this kid. Tremendous stuff yep.
And then he covers Alex Right for two and pulls him up by the
hair instead of letting him kick out. He's such a he's such a bitch.
Whip to the corner side step Roma goes into the buckle. The girls
respond to that brief hope spot for Alex Right. Anyone ever asked Paul Roma
if he regretted, uh, not going for the cover earlier that time?
You know? So then right late, imagine that we're here in a shoot
interview with Paul Roma. Paul thanks so much for your time. I want
to start by taking you back to the Alex Right match. Oh yeah,
I know I told this story ahead of times. I don't have the usual
question, and not so much about the firing. I want to ask you,
do you still regret not going for the cover earlier after landing that big
elbow and wasting all that time dancing around the ring? Don't you think he
could have gotten them? I would love to do interviews like that man freaking
just like I wasn't scheduled to go over, still go over? So what
does that mean? I understand that you that you maybe you weren't supposed to
win, but didn't it. Don't you think if you if you had pinned
him right there after that elbow, you would have gotten him? Amazing?
Then you put the ball in his court. It's like this guy is do
I answer as a KA answer? You know? And I understand the wrestling's
fake. I totally understand that, but that that was real. You hit
him with that elbow. You should have pinned him. Is that does that
eat at you? Wow? Day and day and day out? Like I
could have I could have I could have vanquished Undu punk. Oh he didn't,
Paul Roma. Do you wish that you had exterminated? That's undupunk.
Do you wish, Paul Roma that you were never born? Do you wish
Paul Roma? Let me ask you this. Do you wish, Paul Roman
that your parents never had sex? Is that your wish? Get to the
brass tacks here, take good time. He takes a big swig of water,
thinking it through right, then laysing punches nuppercuts and then totally blows a
hip toss. He has to think about it too. It's the best part.
Well you think about it. It's a good question. And my god,
does Alex Right blow a hiptoss here? I mean he puts his arm
it's totally not under the armpit. But Paul Roman does the flip. Do
you have to see even say a hiptoss? He just blows ef it's bad
and then is a spinning heel kick and gets just one corner to corner.
Whip Right goes to the top rope and one motion comes off with a cross
body off the top rope and they both spill into the ropes and Randy Andern
is counting. Even though Paul Rom his feet are clearly under the ropes all
time. He's all tangled up in the It's ridiculous, but he doesn't care.
He's like, let's end this thing now. Absolutely. And then Paul
Oorendorff still pulls the legs and Randy admonishes him, even though it wasn't a
legal cover in the first place, so I don't really know what the big
deal is. And then Paul and Duff goes up the steps they used to
have in the center of the apron. Remember when he put the steps there?
Yep, yep? And then Roma slams him and confers with Paul Orndorf,
and you know's like, I got him, I got him, don't
You don't have to interfere anymore. While he's doing that conferencing with the Orn
Dwarf, he's on the apron, Alex Wright drop kicks Paul Roman from behind.
Paul Roma smashes into Paul Orndorf and then right rolls him up one two
three? What what? Wait a minute? Halt e hey, hey brother,
you got Can we get in here, dude, we gotta we gotta
have we need all hands on deck here. I don't Can we please have
everybody? Can we get Craig leathers out of the truck. Please, everybody
kind of come down here. Do we gotta put a pause on this pay
per view? Dude? Things not going anywhere till my concerns are delayed.
Brother, I got section here, all right, I got my my paragraph
eleven, sub paragraph, you know, section eleven. He doesn't Peter,
You're all right? I I got Peter Young on the phone, dude,
he's on speaker, all right. I got a brute, I hear dude.
We got Houston on the line. Dude. I gotta know, brother,
and sit down, we're gonna talk, all right. Close the door.
Please, let's just take a deep breath. Brother. I know we've
all been through a lot just now, dude, Right, we just went
through was huge. Everyone's like, what do we go through? But there
they can't, you can't. I know it was alarming, dude, I
know that what we saw was alarming. But I just got to know whose
idea was it. I'm sorry, Terry, whose idea was what? Exactly?
I'm not sure I'm following you? You are you? Are you fucking
with me? Dude? No? No, I swear to God, you
swear to God. Brother, Were you not? Do you do you not
pay attention to what goes out there, brother, Well, I was.
I was actually quite busy out there, dude. Do you not watch what
Hulk Cogan does? Dude, you were out there. You were supposed to
be out there. I wasn't out there, Dude, I was not out
there. I'm wondering exactly what you were watching, dude. Well tell you
the truth, Terry. Brother. Huh. I had to run some notes
back and forth to the Mote team working with Gina. I didn't even see
the end of the match. Is that what you're talking about? Do you
have a concern about the end of Paul Romas match? Is that what we're
talking about here? I don't even fuck this guy is Can we get him
the fuck out of here? Dad? Hey, hey, you don't have
to grab me by the arms. I'll leave. Geez. I'll have nothing
more than to not be in this room anyway. We're here to talk about
serious business, Dude. I still don't know. I'd love to be able
to help, but god, brother, you shut the fuck up. Dude.
Are we got a real fucking problem here? Brother? Who did it?
Dude? Who set me up? Brother? I'm sorry, I'm sorry,
Terry. How did we set you up? You haven't even been on
the screen yet, am I Am? I the only fucking person here who
saw what happened out there? Dude? Who saw? What the fuck is
going on? Brother? Were talking about the Paul Roman match that just ended?
Dude, we have a major We saw it. I saw the finish
brother, that major breach of security. Brother, what happened? What is
he talking about? Doug? Doug? What is he talking about? I
don't know. I wish I knew. I mean, I can use a
disguised voice if you want and call in my contacts with Baltimore pde Well.
I think they should be in on this. Dude, Gary Juster, what
do you know? I don't even know what he's talking about. To be
frank, I mean, Terry, what what's the concern? Are you talking
about Paul Romes match with Alex Right? I am talking about Paul Rome?
What about it made you think it was an attack on you? I don't
understand. Nothing to do with you? Are you? Are you fucking with
me right now? Dude? It had nothing to do with me. Am
I losing my mind? I mean no, brother, Yeah, you are
losing your fucking mind. Did you not see the finish? Did anyone out
here? Was I the only one watching the goddamn match who knew the finish?
Brother? Yeah, well it was actually kind of boxed up. And
Rick is going to be talking to Paul about that because he was not supposed
to kick out what He's not gonna be talking to Paul about that, Brother,
He's gonna be talking to Alex, right, dude, because he Alex
wronged me out there? Brother? What did he do to you? I'm
still at a loss. Did he like do the leg drop or something and
you kick out of it? I mean he rolled up Paul Roman from behind,
dude, and he pinned him one, two three. Now, I
don't know. I don't care what guys do when I'm not in the building,
brother, But when Hulk Hogan is here, dude on a pay per
view, Brother, you do not do roll ups from behind, but you're
not in the match. What difference? It doesn't matter if I'm not in
the match, Brother, I have a game faced dude, and now I
am totally out of it. Brother. Well, I guess I got to
scratch off these these plans for your match. Cross this off right now?
Okay? I heard now, Well, I guess we can't do this.
I mean, Jesus, whoa, whoa, whoa. Now it's fine,
It's not gonna happen now. I mean, if you're that worried about someone
else's I don't know where the fuck you think you're going. Man, I
gotta tells down. Dude, what do you talk? What plans? Brother?
Well, we had a couple of ideas for the match we were going
to talk to you about. But then the ideas? Brother, why are
people coming up with ideas for me? Well, I'm not involved in do
Well, we just want to see what you think and you can vote it
up or down. You know, we can tell you what I think.
Brother, that you're fucking fired. Dude. Well, I'm fine, I'm
out of here. I'm not going to tell you what's on the piece of
paper? Then what's on the piece of paper? Brother? Am I rehired?
What's the piece of paper? Am I rehired for? Now? Well,
we had a couple of ideas we wanted to run by you. I
don't need your fucking explanation. I want to as the goddamn paper. Brother.
Well, we were talking to Leon. We were talking to Leon before
about what he like to do in the match. And oh you're talking about
Leon. You're talking about Leon, dude. Well, yeah, we wanted
to see how we could produce this thing and what what he might be willing
to do, and then come to you with what you might be willing to
do. But you went to him first, Well yeah, you were in
the building yet. But plus, if I went to you first and I
went to Leon, I'd still have to bring back to you what Leon said.
So I figured out just because if Leon doesn't agree with everything that I
do, we scrapped match. Oh I see, Okay, all right,
well I'll keep that in mind for next time. But suffice to say,
I mean, with your concern about that spot in Roma's match, all I
did was, you know, we threw out some spots. You know.
Of course, as we talked about he's gonna kick out of the leg drop,
you're gonna kick out of the power bomb or the Vader Bomb. I'll
tell you, dude, I'm not thrilled about that, but I know and
we appreciate your willingness to be flexible, and I think it's gonna be really
beneficial to the company and the bottom line, and it's gonna be good for
Hulk. Frankly, I think by the time it's over the way, we're
seeing it in our minds what this idea is, brother, So I don't
give you one thing. One thing we were talking about was at a certain
point in the match, you know, you would be, you know,
discombobulated and sort of vulnerable, and that Vader would totally pull something you know,
we've never seen from him before, and instead of going high impact,
he'd actually do a roll up. He'd roll you up schoolboy from behind,
and you'll only get two of course, And I think that would we thought,
you know, talking to the agents and stuff, that would just be
a wild spot because who's ever seen Vader go for a schoolboy roll up before?
But I guess we need to cross this off the list suggestions, which
I respect, I had no idea this was like a third rail for you.
But going forward, we'll definitely keep that in mind, Terry, So
we will not tell Vader to try to roll you up tonight. Are you
fucking with me, dude? No, not at all? Are you If
I wanted to fuck with you? Why would I cross it off right right
in front of you and admit to you? How do I know You're not
going to go to Leon and say, hey, brother, Hogan wants you
to roll them up and hold them snugged dude and get the pin. Brother.
I won't say that, brother. You've already said it, dude.
You already went to Leon. Brother. I talked to Leon, Dude.
He said you know what he said? Oh? Ed, He said,
brother, I'm gonna roll you up, dude, I'm gonna roll you up,
brother, And he said, you fucking told him, Terry. I
don't know what to say, right, Can I get one? Brother?
Look if it makes you feel any better, so you don't shoot the messenger.
It was Leon's idea to do the roll up. It was not mine.
Fuck you, brother, do you I don't know who's in on this
brother right now, dude, I don't know who's. All I can tell
you, dude, is that you have told me that Ted Turner wants me
to lose to Big Van Vader tonight. Brother, all right, that was
verbatim out of your mouth, man. And I talked to Ted Turner this
morning, dude. Well, I was going over his schedule, brother,
for the next two weeks. And you fucking got almost right now, dude.
Almost to say is this, brother, someone's going to die tonight.
Wow, It's not gonna be my fault because you all did this to yourselves.
Brother, What did we do? If you don't know, dude,
if you don't know what you did, you're done and you can get the
big man upstairs, brother Bill Shaw. Twelve floor or thirteenth. It's still
undefeated, Alex right, and my god, is his hair bobbing high?
After that victory, Heenan demands a replay and doesn't get one because it was
clear that Paul Roman went into business himself and kicked out before the refslap three.
Heena's screaming, who calls the shots around here? While they're trying to
tamp down the fact that Roma kind of messed up with their planned presentation here.
So what's the story, what's the problem? What's this all about?
Why did Paul Roma really never wrestle in WCW again after this match at Super
Bowl five? Well, we turned to a great shoot interview he did once
upon a time with our video, which we've acerpted from the past. I'd
highly encourage you to check it out in its entirety. Piece of its surfaced
recently when all this stuff started coming out about, you know, sexual harassment
at WWE, and some of the things he said that people just heard them
were like, eh, don't care, don't care if wrestlers right could get
a push if they let people suck their dicks. So here we go on
this fateful night for one Paul Roma, alech Wright and I. They said
they want to do it and go as far as you know who's prettier,
you know. So I came out, I'm prettying this kid. What are
you guys talking about? Blah blah blah. The agreement that I had with
WCW was that uh and especially Rick Flair, was that I would go around
with him, teach him, get him better, because he's going to be
the next h Kogan. That's what they said to you. That correct,
correct and put him over. And that's fine. But if we do a
pay per view, I'm not doing a job on pay per view for him.
And Rick said, not a problem, that's not going to happen.
I said, okay, great, let's do it. So why did you
not want to do the job from pay per view just because you were in
the business a long. He's a fucking jabberni, you know what I mean?
At the end of the day. You know you could, you could
do theatrics. Great, you can't work. That's why they want you to
go around with me and get better. And you constantly blow up because you
can't hold it. So, you know, why should I do a job
for this dude? You know what I mean? So I get to pay
per view. I'm wrestling Alex. Right, I go to Rick, what
do you want to do? How do you want to go into the finish?
They want him over? Like, excuse me that they want him over?
I'm like, so, but I we had an agreement. He goes,
well, it's been changed. Okay, motherfucker, not a problem.
This is live pay per view. That means you can't edit it. No
worries. So got out in the ring. I humiliate him for twenty minutes,
try to give him a spoty fucked that up and uh kicked out on
two and a half. Right now, what did you think was gonna happen
when you went back to the locker room? I mean, did I didn't
give a fuck. I was gonna ask you, did you not care if
you were gonna get fired or whatnot? I didn't give a fuck. I
was protecting me I was protecting who I was as probably the highest I've ever
jumped off the top rope and dropped an elbow. I mean I could have
I could add a sandwich on the way down, because as I was coming
down, I was like, God, damn, you're fucking up here,
dude, you know, and naturally I'm not gonna cover him. I'm gonna
run around the ring. I know the announcers are going to say, what
is he doing? What is he doing? And then I pulled him up
instead of pinning him because I you know, we got to get to the
finish. Yeah. Then I got a call from Flair, you know,
telling me the match wasn't good. I said, that's your opinion, because
everybody I talked to said it was a great fucking match. Well that's your
opinion. I said, no, it's everybody's opinion, you know. And
I get a letter FedEx to me saying we no longer need your services,
thank you very much. You know that's fine. I just love your assessment,
boss, of just the impression you develop of Paul Romo when you hear
him tell that story. He's fucking awesome. He's like so many guys you
met in Jersey. Ah Ah, he's the kind of guy that it's going
to take six weeks longer than we estimated to do to finish this job.
Yeah right, I'm sorry to tell you. When we got into the guts
of the building, we found that unbelievable. This guy, it's just not
going to be easy, right, It's not easy. And I'm looking and
and you lucked out in that we caught it early. Yeah, sometimes these
things if we, you know, are halfway down with a job and we
find that it can be much more of a rung monkey bench than this.
But we were both lucky. I think that that we found it when we
did. But there's a lot of remediation that has to happen. We got
to call EPA because we're talking, you know, there's some there's some serious
issues going on, wetland issues, serious issues. You know, we're talking
several issues that could go away for a fee of seven hundred and fifty dollars,
but we don't have to talk about that right now. Plus there's also
the uh, you know, we got to there. From what I gathered,
there are some permits that were not closed. It's right, and I'm
just between me and you. I just want you to know, because you
know, I feel like I owe you the duty in this contractual relationship.
It's not all kosher down at city Hall. I've looked at the front off.
It's not And a lot of grandfather did in stuff here that was never
permitted. It's uh, you know, it's a it's a it's a big
deal. It's a big deal. A lot. There's a lot of things
that the original owner didn't have to do that you've got to do for code
reasons. I mean, we're talking, but at this point, I mean
conservatively, and it's going to be about a six million dollar job. I
know, I know I told you ten grand at first. But yeah,
it's easily. It's easily in seven figures, maybe eight figures if you if
you nod to seven figures, maybe eight if you don't, maybe five.
Yeah, al Aroma, it's I don't know. I don't know what to
tell you. He doesn't give a fuck, he doesn't give a fuck.
Fight me, what are you gonna do? Fight me? And they won't
fire him, fire me. I'm thinking myself, Okay, well, okay,
there's one little issue there there, Paul, is that Okay, you're
protecting yourself, but you just lost your job, so he wants to quit.
Paul Roma wants to quit. That's a understand about a that like that.
No, I honestly firing him just that that gives him so much more
ammunition. Totally. I don't know what he went on to I don't remember
from the rest of the interview what he goes on to do with his life.
But he seems, you know, put together. He seems like a
guy that has his his wits about him and and isn't like, you know,
sort of like clinging on to anything like he He's the kind of guy
who lives for you know, being motivated to take the next step in his
life just so he can rub it in someone else's face. Yes, yes,
give me a reason to move on from wrestling so I can say fuck
you, I never needed you anyway. He doesn't need to to to be
wrestling, right, Okay, he doesn't need to, but you know,
he'll get glad to get fired if if that's the way it is. He
doesn't fucking give a shit. And while James Romeiro and Wrestling Shoot Interviews caught
up with Alex Right not too long ago and asked of his memories of this
night super Bowl five. Well, that that's another thing. I mean,
I didn't have that experience being still rookie. You know. I got teached
by my dad that I always respect the veterans, and of course Paul was
a great worker, and he was of course a veteran to me, and
in Germany, the first match which I had with him was a very good
match. So the problem was that I think he didn't like the order what
the office gave him, and he was pissed actually at the office, and
I was the guy who got it up, you know. I mean we
had a totally different plan and he just switched everything around and was very sad
and very unprofessional because I could have had such a great match with him,
and he could all teached me so much if he wanted to, but he
didn't, and in my opinion, it was not professional to act that way
because it was my fault that the orricane like it was, you know,
And I didn't fall back that much in that match because, like I said
before, I was like, what was it ninety nine or when? When
in nineteen ninety five, so you're only with the company about a year.
Yeah, So being new in the company and being just nineteen years old.
You know, I thought, I, you know, I was afraid to
lose my job if I would fight back in that match, that's it,
you know, Yeah, I know it was. It definitely was the wrong
decision to do it, to which pauled it because he lost the job for
that shit, you know, did then? Were you there when he got
fired or we just sort of consoled and people said, definitely not your fault.
He was completely in the wrong. No, actually they said. They
asked me what happened, and I told him what happened, and they said,
hey, listen, kid, next time, if something happened like that,
you just have to you know, kick some ass, yeah, and
defend yourself and shed it from that moment on, because then I knew,
okay, that's okay, and yeah, no, she got fired I think
six weeks later or something like that. I would like to see Alex Wright
to start trying to swing on Paul Roma for real in the match. Me
too. As much as I like Roma's attitude and stuff, I kind of
feel like you would bitch out if you actually punched him in the face,
you know what I mean, he might you know, I wouldn't doubt that
he may at least second guess right if if, if somebody was actually you
know, not taking his ship. Fascinating. So we move on to Gene
Oakland with Sherry and the Harlem heat. Gene calls her the vivacious and very
attractive Sherry. They have the tag titles at the time is mentioned. Shery
says, Okay, nasty boys, you want it just a little bit more.
Someone someone said, I saw someone say that. That was I was
given I was I was talking shit about Sherry during the Virgil I excel that.
I don't know what that was a reference to that. I don't know
what that is. Because I love Sherry. I think Shery's great. Maybe
maybe I was talking about when I was a kid, I wanted to I
wanted to do her because I was a kid. Truth, I was a
kid. I didn't you know, I wanted to do it when I was
a kid. But I think she's awesome. She's she she gets all my
respect, for God's sake, she's a she's fucking brilliant. Yeah. Yeah.
People don't really pick their spots very well on that stuff. I don't
know if you say anything about a woman's appearance. It's you know, I
mean I've always I've always thought she's fantastic appearance or not. I think she's
one of the she's one of the one of the greatest, uh, you
know, women managers of all time, if not the best, because her
involvement and and the amount of stuff that she was willing to do. I've
always been blown away by because it's like, you know, she gets herself
in there in places that you know as a kid, you kind of you
don't think of it in terms of of of abuse per se, like you
think of it in terms of the wrestling content. But my god, she
got a hit, she got power slam. She she was a worker,
she's a trained worker. Fucking awesome. Yeah, she was a total force
of nature. Always had all the respect for Sherry. So she's here saying
first, second time around wasn't enough. You want the tag belt, so
you go cry into everybody to get the shot, and she says, it's
up to five hundred thousand Harlem heat degrees tonight. No punch is pulled,
and uh, she makes like these huge eyes. You gotta chokes on her
words. Oh, I mean she might be on something too, and you
totally. Yeah, she got jud d issues in that regard. No question
this book or t you know about the nasties and it's Stevie Stevie because he
calls Stevie Ray. Booker t where we're from, you either smoke or you
get smoked, and we've been smoking everybody. Stevie Ray says, since the
sister came in, it ain't nothing to it but to do it, as
he says, and Booker says, one thing the nasty boys need to remember,
and then he says three things. We got tag gold with battest thing
in WCW and baball else. We've got my sister. If you want some,
you can come get some, but you better be big enough, bad
enough to come take some, all right. And he also says he's got
a new move concocted and there'll be a Harlem hangover tonight. So the Harlem
hangover debuting I guess in this match, Oh, I didn't realize that,
all right. The great City of Baltimore, as Tony Schavanni pointed out,
we're near the Inner Harbor. He said that four or five times, near
the Inner Harbor. Who keeps a fuckup location? Nobody cares where you were,
where the fucking place is, right, Most people watching this can't even
find Baltimore in a map let alone distinguish the Inner Harbor from the rest idiot.
That must have been like a deal with the Science Center and everything,
the Aquatic Center. That must have been so kind of like, yeah,
I would imagine so like the Inner Harbor Tourism Council through him, like two
hundred grand or something to say that God and things are really heating up even
though there's a little bit of snow on the ground. Okay, Chane to
be accompanied by the greatest promo her on the face of the Earth, Hurdle
Parker, along with Meg shit it will come. What do you think about
Meng and the fucking men in black outfit? Well, what about the Meng
sitting at the sitting in the audience too? I was I was confused for
a moment. There. Did you see that guy? Oh dressed just like
him? There's a guy they dressed just like Meng. And there was also
a Harlem Heat guy. Some guy actually found the Harlem Heat fucking outfit fucking
had like they looked just like it was really overalls. Yep, yep,
that was such a weird costuming, the fucking the the the the meng in
the black outfit with the white tie is so, I don't know what.
I don't know what they're going for. I mean I do, but but
I don't like. I would have almost preferred him to have a black tie
as well instead of a white tie from Bucksnorre, Tennessee. Oh boy,
I mean, how about Randy Quaid? Then I'm going to say the bunk
house Buck, the half brother of cousin EDDI absolutely, Jesus, Tony,
I'll tell you what's really special about him. The comb over to the middle.
Oh really, I haven't noticed. Yeah, so like he from what
I gathered, I've never noticed this before, but it looks like he he
parts his hair on both sides in to the middle, and that's where it
gets that weird little spike look going down. This is bunk house Buck.
This is bunk house Buck. Tremendous stuff, just really tremendous. It's such
a fucking loser, she says. Today and Chris Cruz are manning the hotline.
What nine hundred nine nine ninety nine hundred. That's a hell of a
number to get, man, very easy to remember. Man. Oh my
god, nines and zeros. It's it. That's all there is, and
that's an without Alex. Right here comes Hacksaw Jim dug in the blue Collar
Champion God and this is a well Heenan. Heenan provides his opinion of Dugan.
He always has a good time you know that brain, Yeah, a
good time in him is leaving that flag, shaking his two by four man
having the human eyes, yell hey the man. As far as I'm concerned,
you can say he's a check. The guy's a loser. The guy
is a loser. He's a dirt nail loser, dirt loser. That's it
pretty awesome. Then you wonder where we get our our taste for fucking insults
like like looks based insults from exactly And we go backstage and Randy Savage has
a receiver up to his mouth in the nine hundred line area. We're talking,
talking, getting the meat, getting it done, doing what we gotta
do with the fans. Who you're on the wonderland of the hotline. I
like talking on the phone. I like it. I like it. I've
done there, I've done it. I've got a phone at home. Oh
really, tell me about this what it's what it is eighteen ninety four.
I got a phone at home, and it's worth fucking mentioning. I got
a phone at home. I like talking on it. I like exactly telling
people what's going on. Sometimes I just open up the phone. Oh man,
this is worth a dollar ninety nine a minute. I got a phone
at home. I want you to know. I open up the phone line
and I say who I'm gonna call the day I'm just grab the book and
I say, all right, here we go. We're gonna call somebody.
Just call anybody who's there. Just pick a number and say, hello,
this is Randy Savage. I am the macho man. Don't know who you
are. Maybe your Doris Jones, maybe your your your your Camelle Jackson.
I don't know exactly who I'm talking to, but I just want to tell
you you have a great day and that the Muccio man is thinking of you.
Camille Jackson, M got that right, rup. She lives down the
street. I said, hello, Camale, my little CJ. How are
you doing over there? Camille Jackson, muctual lady for a muctial man.
Things are hating up on the hot line. One nine nine or nine ninety
nine hundred kids, get your parents' permission, Select option two and you two
can speak to Randy Savage. Do do Welcome to the WCW Hotline to speak
with a superstar. Press too, dude. Kids, Remember, get your
parents' permission A dollar ninety nine every minute stand by. Yeah, Oh my
god, is this? Randy said, what do we got? We got
someone on the line. Yeah, And then he says and then he says,
so, Randy, how are you gonna do on the paper you tonight?
Four score and seven years ago, we tell you exactly it's gonna happen.
Four score seven years ago, the muccho man was sitting up high looking
around, saying where am I? What's gonna happen tomorrow? And I said,
you know what, the mucchio man, Randy Savage is gonna come down
the mountain. He's gonna walk down the mountain. He's gonna have his elbow
shined up, and we're gonna take things exactly. Hell we see him.
Yeah, we're gonna take them one way or another. We might go left,
we might go right. You never know which way we're gonna go.
But the bottom line is every direction leads you to the place you wanna go,
because that is exactly the way that the big guys upstairs intended it to
be. And I look at myself and I say, hey, let's get
down. Let's get down to the river. Let's bore it. I get
the sense you're trying to get this across the two minute line. But okay,
let's board the canoe. I'm gonna take the oars, and I'm gonna
peddle. I'm gonna peddle my way right to the top of the wc W.
I keep paddling. I go wom direction, I go the other.
I keep going back and forth and back and forth, because that is exactly
what it takes to get ahead in this life. I have looked ahead.
I have seen exactly where my destiny lies. And I said, what your
man, Randy Savage, We're peddling our way to immortality. Oh yeah,
I have looked ahead, he said, I have looked ahead. That's what
they don't tell you in the fine print. Before Randy addresses the pay per
view, he reads the entire Getty's address. So phone number no longer active
for those wondering. But I wonder what other options were open? On pay
per view night besides option number two? Did anybody really call what was option
three and press option three on pay per view night? I doubt it.
He didn't, says Ready Savage will tell you things. Talked to anybody anyway?
I just prey recorded a message, didn't talk to anybody. Fucking break.
How could you where they're gonna take two phone calls? How much money
you make there? I always wondered, like I never understood that whole,
But then you had people who actually answered though, like you you had what
was that show? What was the show that? No? No, no,
no, no no, it was a pay per view and undertakers on
the line with somebody they talk about, Oh it was I think it was
ninety three SummerSlam, and they talk about Jake Roberts and he's on the phone
with somebody. Real I don't know, man, there's no way that you
called and didn't get connected to somebody, you know what I mean, and
just hung up and just dealt with the fact that you know, you didn't
luck out. I'm sure some people not sure, but I suppose some people
did get patched through in that small window of time when someone was sitting there
at the telephone, but I'm sure most people just got a prerecorded message after
waiting for a minute and a half or two, he says, Reddy Savage
will tell you things shouldn't be known, shouldn't be told. He's horrible.
Don't call him Ready Savage on the phone. He's an idiot. As for
bunkhouse Buck, he definitely did his part on some of the TV leading into
Super Brawl five to make sure that his match here against Duggan was particularly high
stakes. Coles Buck later on at Super Bowl, You've got Hack saw Tin
Tucket, Jim Duggan. When I walk the streets, four kings and queens
step aside. I'm just like Coca Cola. Man. I've been everywhere and
done everything. Say all the seven Sees, been around a great horn.
One thing I ain't done is knock me out. No billy goat that looks
like you. Boy, I've beat a pall of doats on the farm,
and you're next. Good stuff. Exageon Duggan versus Bunk house Buck dug In
with the flag in his hand and drops Buck with a right hand. Dougan
had lost the Belts of Vader at the Stark pay per view, which of
course solidified Vader is the number one contender for this night. Yes, orphan
Nick Patrick presiding for what it's worth is Dugan hits a hiptoss and a lariat
and over goes bunk house Buck to the arena floor over. I don't know
if bunk house Buck was over, No, he was over. He went
over the top, rolls Colonel Parker over, fanning him with his white hat
on, and bunk house Buck drags him to the floor. Doug In that
is sweating profusely. Oh my god, I can't. The man was on
a full rotisserie at all times. I'm telling you, I'm leaking from places
I didn't even know I had. Oh my god, I'm leaking so much.
The sheets are going to have the exclusive. Yeah, that was.
That was the difference between Colonel Parker and the rest of the locker room back
then when it came to he he leaked to the sheets, all right.
But the hotel bed sheets is what they meant in his in his sense,
sh my bed sheets in the hotel they dirty too. I'm leaking on the
dirt sheets. Dropping a dime to Dave. Nobody helps, somebody help.
He doesn't need help. He's always on a bed he can't get out of
You know what I mean? I mean it, but I got a bed
bug. I need help. Oh my god, ship, hold on,
oh my god, ship. But enough about fall Brown ninety four. I
got a dukie hanging out my ass. I got it, boss, I
got ship myself again. Mar there we all over my goddamn sheets and my
ass. Fuck is a buck is always just far away enough that you have
to yell. He's in his hotel extremely like, he gets so scared.
I'm moving around and ship right now, oh god, oh, And then
he goes oh, like somebody was over there, like he didn't see what
and now this Oh. All he did, apparently is wake up in a
cold sweat, and pretty soon he's like swimming in his own ship, trying
to get out of his bed because for some reason, you can't get out
of bed, make any sense? Like why can't you get out of bed?
Are you paralyzed? Like? But instead of saying I can't move my
legs, he says I can't get out of bed because that's the thing he
can move. But when he gets to the edge of the bed, it's
almost like a magnetic force field or he sweats so much, and he's he's
sweating shit so much that he just like keeps slipping in slide and he can't
move actually just stays in the same place. Here's the problem with Colonel Parker.
He can't get out of bed physically, physically. I don't mean he's
asleep, he's wide awake. He cannot get out of bed. He can't
do it physically. That's bizarre. He's in a fucking wife beater and tidy
whities. Oh my god, I'm trying, but I can't do it.
He asks for help, like you know, he asks for help like someone
says, yep, oh shit, help like he owes himself. Remember when
we played the clip of his interview about Fall Brawl and he said, no,
they're hurting, Colonel. That's why they have to go to the rescue.
Because they're hurting Colonel. I'm myself, colonels hurting, Colonel God rolling
around my ship, my sweat and ship. It's like a mirror over the
bed. He just sees himself screaming, like in the middle of the bed.
There's like maybe so much filation, but there's just so much liquid coming
from you can't get fucking he can't get any kind of have you ever shot
yourself in bed so badly that you can't get out of bed and it's all
blended with the sweat and everything. It's like anyway, He's like, aren't
that I'm going in there again. Bunk house Buck drags Dug him the floor.
They slug it out. Dug and rips the pajamas shirt off of Bunk
house Buck, who pushes him off into the post. I mean, they're
both fools. Honestly, this is like someone said, hey, you know
what we need on this pay per view, right, Bunk house Buck versus
Hacksaw Jim Duggan. That's exactly what they said. What we need back and
dugging on the hop. But we got seven matches. The majority of the
roster ain't gonna be on the show. Arn Anderson can defend the TV title
on the on on the main event, but we need Jim Duggan versus Bunk
house Buck because he was on that whole Cogan plan. Man, he was
rolling with the Hogan crew hard treatment. So what Punk house Buck drops down
and Dugan drops a knee to his back. He then calls him Hacksaw Jim
Dugan Jimmy Dugan, Yes, he does what brother, The hard is what
makes it great. That's what Jim Duggan always said. Dougan with an atomic
drop in the right hand that only gets one, and Tony says, we
anticipated a brawl between these two men because they are brawlers, which is a
good reason to anticipate a brawl, I suppose it is. What I love
about this one count is that Douggan is pissed at Nick Patrick for not count
registering a faster County Like it wasn't like a two, it wasn't like a
two and three quarter situation. It was one. But kicks out and he
goes dude, like, you know you weren't fast enough, Like Jim,
I know you're new to WCW, but Nick Patrick is not the referee you
look for a fast town out of okay, Also, Jim, Nick Patrick
is not the referee you want for your match at all. All Right,
it's gonna, it's gonna they're gonna be problems. Fucking uh eastbound down totally
is Oh my god, he looks like fucking Danny McBride. Dougan rams punk
House bucks head into the corner and Buck grabs the rope and jabs dugging across
the throat with at the bull rope. Dugan goes to the floor into the
rail and he says he caught the rail on the short ribs. The Vader
looks up in his locker room. Oh. They jostle near the ring attendants,
who are all smiles because it's all fake and pretend right, such a
joke, Like, oh my god, these guys are Oh shit, the
animals are getting close. One of them even says high mom. Yeah,
she's really frightened. Oh my god, here, oh here we go.
Shit dug And purchases the animals purchased some of the top and slugs away,
but Buck strikes and they exchange boots and dug and drops them with a right
hand dug and stomping on him. They tie up. It's getting real sloppy
at this point. Dug In with a whip in a backdrop gets too Suddenly
they're exchanging camera locks and switches. At this point, they're they're exchanging chain
wrestling. Now well better than ever, I guess. Dougan walking around the
ring and hulking up, throw some rights and laft drops and elbow for two
whip dug and lifts and spins them around a few times and dump the drops
a knee for two. There's someone who was like Elizabeth sitting at ringside wearing
a Hogan shirt. Oh I didn't see that lust and rise. Had she
come in yet? I don't know, No, I don't know. No,
that's like a late ninety five thing. Yeah, right hand and a
bunkhouse buck lands on his ass. This is going nowhere. How awesome would
it be if if she actually did buy a ticket for that pay per view
and wore a Hogan shirt just to piss Savage off? Oh my god,
stuff of legend. No one would ever forget that one, for no other
reason than fucking Randy throwing things around backstage afterwards, just prolonged periods of nothing
and just standing around. At this point in the match, they're missing a
timeque something's off here. It's awful and the worst things I've ever seen.
Like, I mean, I think they get like where they get seven or
ten minutes. It's take to look long. It's too long either way.
It's absolutely eleven fifty eight. They got eleven minutes for this bullshit? What
are they're doing the opening contest? By the way, thirteen minutes, twenty
one seconds. The last thing you need is a fucking eleven minute Jim Duggan
match. Absolutely no one needs he Jim Duggan never needs to go double digits.
Well, he's in there with a really hot heel, that's the thing.
Oh yeah, sure, he was in there with a hot hand.
Bunk House Oh dug into the corner mount. Notice that he cross slaps the
shoulder with the other hand while rocketing down the punches with the other So like
the right is coming down and the left is slapping his right shoulder right before
the point of impact, or the other way around. Corner to corner.
Weep dug Hi with the shoulders to the gut, and Tony says this has
been a lack of a better term, a brutal matchup. Yeah, suddenly
Dugan grabs a hammerlock, right, of course, that's what we all need.
Dugan ripping away at the shirt. Tony says, it's the first time
we've seen old bunk House Buck without his shirt on, so I knew this
was historic. For some reason this show, I guess Heenan is impressed with
the He says something about bucks toughness and and about the about this. This
isn't a match any This is a fight, so drunk super he had a
rite first, this was this isn't a match, that's for sure. Yeah,
that's not what I would call it. So BIG's lamb by Duggan,
but uh Buck rakes his eyes. Duggan says, throw me to colonel,
and he does. He whips him in and dug In lunges with a big
right hand such that he actually lands on the apron. That's how hard he
hit Robert Parker. Wow. And then he gets back in the ring,
hits a three point stance lariat and pins Buck for one, two and the
three. Like we said, eleven minutes fifty eight seconds, Jim Duggan beats
the bunk house here at super Bowl five. Earlier in the match, just
before that happened. Uh Heenan Keenan for some reason compliments Duggan's physique but not
its intelligence. With a physique and Duggan, this guy is really in shape,
too bad. He doesn't have anything going from the ears up. You
mean you got plenty here on the zip talk about brain man brain matter.
Immediately after the finish, Meng gets in there and with loafers kicks Jim Duggan
right in the fucking face. Yes, you need to say that. And
he's got a gloved hand, so we can do a vicious nerve hold.
Yes, that gloved hand. The loaded gloved hand is a much provides a
much more vicious nerve hold of doom freezer all over Meng trying to stop the
assault. As Heenan calls Meng the toughest man in the face of the earth,
and Gary Michael Pipetta announces the winner, hacksaw Jim Duggan back to Tony
and Heenan says Meng had no business in the ring. Tony says this here
and said, well here, this is because they talk about Yeah, they
talk about Parker's location and Meng and all that shit, and here's what they
have to say. Well, Brain, you're right. Ming is devastating,
there is no question about it. But I must stress that Ming is a
bodyguard, a bodyguard assigned to Colonel Rob Parker. And even though there was
contact with Colonel Rod Parker, Ming had no business getting in the ring.
I'm glad to see some well, had no business touching the colonel. Well,
what was he doing up on the apron of the ring. He's not
in the rays on the apron. He's not in the rays on the apron.
You understand that you're repeating yourself. I'm telling you exactly how it is,
so you understand, mister Chavoni Schevanni. It is doesn't matter. He
is in rare form. He is in rare form. Telling you like you
know, it's really fucking funny. Nasties funny, Geene says. We all
have our cross to bear. Unfortunately, Tony yours this evening is working with
the brain. Good luck to you. Nasties. They have the smiles.
They've smelled the roses, he says, ah, and they've smelled the roses
among a range of entrees. I'm sure we know. They had crabs earlier.
Yeah, that was before. That was before they sat down to eat.
They had crabs in they eight crabs. Sex is right now, Geene,
it's it's hard to think about anything else about the Nasty Boys battle plan,
and we had to think about talking right now. All we want to
do is fight and they take you, well, we take you to Nasty
Veil and get ready for the nastiest time of your life, for nasty sensation.
You know, I'm not a fan of babyface. Nasty boys is just
a weird thing to me. Yeah, it's hard to deal with it is.
It doesn't work really. Geene says, heaven forbid, that's sensuo.
So oh, I beg your pardon, sister Sherry and Nobb says if she
gets involved, she'll get smacked right off her stink and ugly face. Hey,
harlem, heat, time for talking is over. They'll put up for
shut up. I vote shut up, by the way, put my hand
up for shut up, he says. He takes the glasses off to his
knobs. He says, the time is ticking down. You gotta walk through
Nasty Boulevard. Can you handle it? I don't think so. The championships
are coming in nasty Ville's way, get nasty sized forever. And they're screaming
and screaming and screaming and screaming. As Jeane pitches back to the ring,
as we see sirens and then the sound of a slow guitar. Formerly of
Daytona Beach, Florida, he now seeks sanctuary in the Conk Republic, the
Conch Republic. When he goes to when he goes to the Bahamas, is
definitely the count Republic on lunchtime for old Kevin Sullivan, the diabolical Kevin Sullivan.
I would have loved to have just said, you know, formally from
wherever, but now living in Lexington, Massachusetts, making his summer residence in
fucking Saugust, Massachusetts. He's doing that hey, hey, verbal tick by
the way, wherever the fuck that is? I don't understood that, and
flanking him as Brutus with short hair is still called the butcher, but soon
to be the man with no name with amnesia, with the brother Butcher,
Beefcake Barbara Brudeye. Anything concerning about him with the glasses on? Uh?
I imagine, well, I'll tell you what if he doesn't concern me,
But I imagine he's concerned that people might notice what's going on underneath there.
His opponent from daytona Beach, brother Dave Sullivan. Uh, eve ad,
And I'm sad he's not coming out to my family friend. If you want
a week, oh yeah, I'm sure tell you how to stay on.
You gotta train and say your paracy to vitamins do These are all the things
that the maniacs to positive thoughts and positive deeds. These of the things that
make the seed always be the Vial family, impress, the only one that
will be there, and my family and friends, my friend. It's a
tour de force. I think, just to be fair, one heart should
have come to he's a Manican, Well he's no, he's Canadian man.
And his opponent hailing from Calgary, Alberta, Canada, two hundred and twenty
two pounds. Ladies and gentlemen, Canadian maid owen Hart. That's a jabroni
or what could you imagine? They said, well, you know, Ohen,
we got a new Kimmick idea for you, going along with the you
know, the Canadian heritage that you that you very clearly have. You know
we're gonna do, uh, We're gonna really make being from Canada. You're
the centerpiece of your of your story, and so you're going to be Canadian
maid owen Hart. Yes, you're. I mean, we reserved the right
to alter, to leave it for to you as Canadian Bacon owen Huart.
We also, you know, we also did we also reserve the right to
call you mister Canada as well and drop the owen Hart and actually just make
you put an outfit on you like the maple leaf and you can put a
mask on and you will be mister Canada. I think we could have saw
Dell Wilks versus mister Canada. I think they would have been money in ninety
seven Get Home to Get have the the Patriot versus versus the Maple Leaf,
or told that Dave Sullivan had been stripped of the magic slippers, the shoes
that is that Hogan used to beat Andre. Remember at TNH right, it
was the Hall of Fame ring that gave Abyss the power of holcomine, and
we talked endlessly about how reductive this was from the Dave Sullivan storyline, and
in that case it wasn't the Hall of Fame ring. But of course the
boots that he gave Dave Sulomon to imbue him with power. Ah, so
so bad, it really is. It's really it's really a fucking shame.
Dave's Kevin Sullivan. Not that I don't know if there's anything you really could
have done with the fucking Dave Sullivan, but it's, uh, it's rough,
you know, once Hogan loses interest, it's like, what has this
guy even doing here anymore? Yep, So Kevin Sultan jumps Hims he comes
with the ropes in his red robe and they slug it out. It still,
says Evad on Dave's green trunks. So like this thing, he's still
He's still a fucking idiot. Yep, stupid, and slams Kevin Sullivan twice
in doesn'tmounted punches and heen and says, Dave Sullivan can't even spell his name
right, No, it's true. He rams Kevin Sullivan's had ten times into
the corner and heenen says, hell, Cogan is scared to death about tonight.
Hogan may even beer. He may be the cat all the airport.
Maybe a cab on the way to the airport. I love that. In
a cab. Yeah, Kevin's so fucking funny, like the little details.
Yeah yeah, he did just say he's running scared. He's in a cab
on the way to the airport. Now he's running away. He's in a
cab on the way to the airport. Right. He provides a very very
descriptive visual right to think about you like you think about Hogan in the back
of a cab. Look, he's got here, brother, almost there,
I'm out, I'm out. Evad so tall. Ye, yes he is
a very tall man. He really, I think he's uncomfortably tall. Yes,
yeah he is, because he's like, you know, when you look
at Hogan, you don't necessarily notice how tall he is, Like everything looks
proportioned, but Evad has he's all legs, long legs, very long legs,
and his and his legs aren't as big. They're spindley sugges. You
know, he's got like chicken legs compared to alarming. Yes, it's very
it's really concerning, so ugly shoulder block off the ropes for Dave, Sullivan
kind of just shoves him down and at Leslie snatches the ankle of Dave as
he hits the ropes to trip him up. In Sullivan Kevin that his takes
over and Dave comes back to the corner runs right into the boot of Kevin
Sullivan. Did we ever, when when Ivead was given the the magic boots?
Did uh? Was there was that a consideration that he was going to
turn on turn heel do the Hogan angle? That's a good question. I've
never heard that, but one would think that's always where Hogan's mind goes whenever
he performed an on screen alliance. What fuck cares about, Like why Eve
had Sullivan. They wanted someone that they thought looked like he had Down syndrome.
It's like Eugene, you know, Oh god, he doesn't. By
the way, it's kind of a strange choice because he doesn't look like that
to me. But he looked enough like hul Cogan that was like, he's
such a hulk of maniac that he looks like him. Yeah, he does.
He does have a lot of He does resemble hul Cogan quite a bit
many aspects. In many aspects, yeah, except in the ones that count.
And ultimately, corning Kevin Sullivan cost him his job, which is just
so confusing. So Dave Selvan comes back with to the corner, runs right
into the boot and stumbles around like a moron, and then he's on his
knees and biting Kevin Sullivan in the stomach. He says, Kevin Sullivan used
to rip tails off cats. It's good to know how it's so bizarre to
me to think of the fact that Kevin Sullivan was currently on his way to
be a top level heel in the business. Oh yeah, with the Dungeon
of Doom Stable. It's so weird to me, Like He's so not top
level heel. He's just somebody that you know, Hogan knew coming up in
Florida, and Hogan trusted to book the heels against him in a way that
would keep him strong. That was pretty much. It create a factory of
guys that fit Hogan's criteria for the kind of characters he wanted to work with.
And then, of course, but why does that have to put Kevin
Sullivan in the mixt of that. He's got to put himself over in the
process, of course, because he's got to do the talking, all right,
He's gonna start pushing guys who can't cut great promos. And so,
yeah, Hogan sees in Sullivan, you know, basically a heenan or a
mouthpiece that could be the heen into the Andre you know, I got you,
which is so funny because he is right there right but yeah, I
shed that skin long ago. So Sullivan, you can hear him on the
broadcast shout fight back at Dave Sullivan, and then he does. Sullivan grabs
a waistband and pulls him out of the ring. Butcher gingerly puts Dave Sullivan
into the steps and he says, Dave Sullivan has an Einstein here, do
Yes, he does. He doesn't have an Einstein anything else, that's for
sure, that's for sure. Just the haird or nothing in between. If
Sullivan with a god off or right hands from the apron and a goosele lifts
up Kevin Sullivan, I think Kevin Sulvan bites him to get free. I'm
not sure anyway. Heenan says that Kevin's like a veggie. Mattic. I
wouldn't put it that way, No, not at all. I don't think
he's ever seen a veggie. He does veg out, but that's a difference.
He just doesn't veg in. Honestly, that's the problem. Kevin Sulvan
tries to sit on Dave across the ropes. He moves and Kevin Sullivan misses,
And I guess, I guess what we're seeing now is Dave Sullivan hulking
up. Is that what I'm witnessing? I think so. Heenan says that
Heman says that he likes Butcher, and I was like, yeah, well
that makes sense. And then so does Avalanche. Avalanche and Big Bubba Giant,
they all love the Butcher. Yeah, but he just gets paid too
much by Bob. But ever come in that's right. Uh slams Kevin Sullivan
in the buckle and shouts ah does Dave Sullivan, and then Heenan says,
they used to do this around the dinner table, the Sullivan family dinner table.
Oh yeah, he is in the backyard. They have fought all their
way. The Sullivan family is nothing but fighter. The Sullivan brothers from Lexington
nothing but fighters, so tremendous. So Butcher gets up in the oprining Vin
Sullivan runs them into each other again, the psychology being that Dave smacked his
face on the steel plates in Butcher's face. Eden says, Butcher has those
places in his face. He shouts it out, and then the laziest roll
up you've ever seen from Kevin Sullivan. I mean he doesn't even hook an
arm in, He just trips him and grabs. He barely like puts any
weight on him. But then I mean also two hands full of tights.
Part of problem is is that Evad also doesn't know how to you know,
he can't bend right his neck. It's like he's basically his his back is
up straight. I don't understand, brother Auto. It's another roll up on
the show, Dude. Two roll up dude is Hulkamania. The third roll
up brother Kevin, comes through through the curtain at Gorilla with a towel,
telling himself off Hogan around a corner with his arms folded. keV, can
I talk to you, dude, brother? What's going on? Dude,
Terry, what's going on? Dude? You know, at first I say,
you know, you did a great job. I know that. Oh,
thank you. It means a lot coming from you. Thank you.
That Eva is not you know, the tough Terry. But we've that's the
job. You know, that's the job, totally due. I understand he
speaks of job's brother. I was wondering, dude, you know you had
Dave. You know you bring me in here, dude, And I'm told
Kevin Sullivan. You know, he's one of the great minds of the business.
Great booking heat great, you know, good good get and the heat.
Dude. So excited about working with you, dude, good of getting
that reverse heat. Brother. I mean you not know each other from back
and Florida, the old days. Dude, going back, brother, going
back, that way down it all said, and I want to you know,
but battle being said, you just go on dial this thing back in
a little bit, brother, And I'm just I'm curious about you know,
and again I want to say I've respected all your booking decisions. Dude,
I think you have a very I think you have one of the top minds
in the business, brother, when it comes to to to to kind of
where are stories going? Kind of like you know, taking a story from
point A to point B to points you know, taking that through that that
whole level and being able to anticipate what's coming around the corner. Brother,
which is why it surprises me so much that you wouldn't have seen this.
What's happening right now is an inevitability after what you pulled in the ring.
Brother. I just you know, I'm seeing here, dude, that you
really that you know you got stab me in the back of the ring just
now? Brother, how's that, Terry, I ain't mean to do anything
of the sort. Well I think you did. I think you definitely did,
because you know, you got your brother. You've had all the finishes
in the world you could have done, Dude. You got your brother.
You've had out there, Dude, you have who who's Who's model himself after
Hulk Ofmania and Hulk Hogan. We all know, brother, that the roll
up is a baby face finish, Dude. There is no reason for hel
to win by roll up. Dude. Well, there's no reason for anybody
to win by roll up unless Hulk Hogan's doing that. And so I want,
I'm just curious, brother, you know why you would want to turn
your back against me and why you would stab me in the back and do
a roll up, finish brother to a guy who is a Hulk of maniac.
It's like a trigger word, dude, And you know this. We
talked about this when I came in, and you're just kind of like going
out there and just going through the motions, dude, and not even respecting
what we will we talk about. I mean, you got to look at
it from my perspective, keV. I mean, I mean, he used
to say that you're not going to call for a roll up if we ever
work together, or how am I supposed to know, dude, that you
haven't told Vader brother. You know, if you don't want me to worry,
brother that you might roll me up one day, that's an awfully strange
way of showing a dude, but going out there on a live pay per
view where there's no we can't edit. You know, brother, this is
live and I've already seen two roll up finishes tonight. Yeah, you know.
I just want to say, dude, you know, can you explain
yourself, Terry? All I can say is I didn't mean anything by it.
I just I thought i'd book the heat, and I thought that that
was the way to get out of the thing with Dave. I never for
a second considered its impact on you when I apologize for that, brother,
So you're come out here telling me, dude that you specifically that you're telling
me, dude that you you didn't know how I was going to impact me
when you specifically said I did the roll up to fuck with you, huld
Hogan. I didn't say that, and I say that I didn't mean to
say that if I said, dude, you just said, you just said
hulk. You know what, dude, I did it because I want to
fuck with you, brother. I did not say I did not and I
told I did not say that, and I told Vader to roll you up
to you, brother and shoot the title away from you. So what the
fuck? You know? Where are we going with this, brother. Let
me tell you this, dude, and your job's on the line right now,
brother, because I think you and I both know. Dude, one
phone call to see an in center, brother, and you're packing your shit.
Let me tell you I'm the eye right now, this is your last
chance. I have the eyes and I have the ears of Ted Turner.
Brother. You know I have I have authority over all of his meetings and
his entire schedule. All right, that's in my contract, brother, and
I could schedule a meeting between he and you where you get fucking let go.
Now. There's one way to head this off, dude, And that's
answered my question honestly, brother, And you know the consequences of lying.
It couldn't have been more clear. Vader gonna try to roll me up than
I do. Did you tell Vader to roll me up like you just told
me? Can you guarantee me he won't try to roll me up? Can
you guarantee brother, that he will be told no roll ups allowed? He'll
get very cranky when he hears that. In my match? Oh, in
your match? Okay, Well maybe I thought i'd been in catering. Well,
dude, I don't want to have any roll ups that uh at catering
either for that matter, can we get rid of those? I thought guys
were having turkey roll ups over there, brother, And I'm saying, you
know what, that's gotta go. That's not right, that's not appreciated,
It's not funny to me, dude. It gives people bad ideas, right,
and honestly, you know what it it could It could become harmful for
Hulk Hogan, Hulkelemania and the entire WCW. Right, it might be injurious
to my professional character and therefore at w CW's bottom lines. All I'm trying
to do here is do is best for business, best for Ted Turner.
Tell me keV he's gonna try to roll me up? Dude, did you
tell him to roll me up? Brother? I didn't tell him to roll
you up, Terry. No, I can say that unequivocally. Any of
the questions. I got to go shower. I'm gonna give you one more
chance to tell me the truth, dude, Harry, I'm telling you the
truth. For God's sakes. I just got out of this fucking match.
It was a piece of shit match, and now I got to hear you
listen here, Listen to you tell me that I told Leon to roll you
up. Leon told me he was gonna do it. I had nothing to
fucking do it. What what tell you? What? What? What do
you minute? What? What did you? Leon was coming to you,
brother, saying I'm gonna roll him up to Uh, I gotta, I
gotta get in the shower, Terry. I am just dying here. I'm
just I was sweating like a pig. I'm frustrated with the match. I'm
I don't know what I'm saying. I'm gonna tell you right now, brother,
Like I'm on you, dude, and I'm gonna have Jimmy Hart following
you everywhere you go, Dude, everywhere you go, you're like cutting your
grass and you look like thirty feet in the distance right over the hedges is
Jimmy Hart's head just looking at you in sunglasses. You your bed brother sleeping
like a fucking kitten, dude, and Jimmy Hart's coming out the window watching
you. Brother. You know what's gonna happen, Kevin. If the Vader
does try to roll me up tonight, dude, I might taking out the
knife. Dude, Wow, might get a little fucking salty all over the
building. Brother, Wow, like old school. I'm gonna tell you,
dude, roll ups cause problems. It's a good drug ad Sky Rizzy to
the rescue. Tremendous stuff, is what I'm trying to say. One of
the worst matches I've seen. That's awful, complete disaster. Butcher is writhing
on the floor and Kevin Sullivan just standing over him doing nothing like he's too
tired to tend to the Butcher and lets him drop and just keeps walking away.
He's got his big powerlifter thighs, so he's got the chafing, so
he's got to like walk like a like a moron, basically up the aleway,
does Kevin Sullivan, which he is. So then all works out to
Tony and Heenan and Heenan and it's turning around. He said, well,
my chair is the wrong way rotate to face the camera. Oh man,
he's got sunglasses on now I noticed, interesting, he's a mass. They
mentioned the telecast in Spanish tonight as well. We had a quick flash of
Pedro Morales, who's doing his first w's W broadcast with Miguel Alonso. Adds
a little extra spice to our broadcast. Tony says, come on he in
says Tabasco sauce ah. And then they pick up a piece of recording equipment
and he's calling backstage looking for what's going on to the back. So he
inscrabbed us like some module. It's not even a phone, and he's pretending
you can call in the back to get intel. And Oakland says Bobby in
his own little world tonight, I'm a anchein, Bubba, come on in.
He talks about the facial reconstruction of the butcher and says that may come
up a little bit later on before we go off the air. John Tenta,
you don't need to corner your concern yourself with the butcher's face. It's
funny, it's pretty funny. I agree to concern yourself with stinging savage.
Savage. I've got a score to settle with you. What is it,
Savage? Excellent? Oh my god, you can do it. A little
bit of catta do in there? Amazing? Oh, poking your nose in
my business and stopping me from getting my hides on Ogan, this is fun.
That's some peace contented dark side of the ring. You will fill the
ovach the National Hockey League play hockey bouncing around like you just had six Tim
Hortons ship goes through you man, you're damn right. Did you hear the
rock what he did one of his Instagram promos, he took a swig of
coffee and he said unleaded. That's that's that unleaded. Oh no, I
didn't see that. I can't deal with bodybuilders who talk about coffee is like
fuel, you know, of course, you know, the jet fuel or
whatever, always black, Yeah, of course, of course. And kick
you know, I'm not going to put it's not gonna put fucking dairy in
there. Right. The coffee is called like fuck you bitch coffee, you
know, like some some warehouse and like fucking Montana, right right, you
know, and it's like, yeah, it's like this fucking it's it's uh,
it's like a it's basically a micro brewery, you know, right right
right, it's like brewed somehow, it's brewed by ex military homely it's like,
yeah, these are these are our beans that that that were harvested by
the military in foreign countries, right, ass kicker beans. This coffee really
kicks your ass. You got like those big ass military watch, you know,
exactly, taking a sip out of his mug in the morning, looking
around his kitchen, just like trying to try to hold in the urge to
beat his wife. Big swig beans the coffee that you need to be if
you're a man, you won't find this coffee at no drag queen show.
That kind of marketing. You know, you don't have to worry about anyone
calling you a soy boy as long as you drink this Treus is your fucking
super much at your market back. It's good mulas. So it's one market.
Oh so they're selling it in the Merrimack Valley exclusively. Guys, if
we want to go national, should we really be referencing a grocery chain that
only exists in part of New Hampshire and northern Massachusetts. What are we doing?
That's good coffee and it's a Z, right, it's a's e z
k i k k e r my god. And it's got like a tribal
tattoo graphing on the bag. And also in hazel nutt ass kicker, it's
a Z like az tech exactly and hazel nut. That was one of my
favorite things was when those guys were like they were on Clive Bundy's ranch in
Nevada. Remember, they were like taking a stand against the Feds. You
can't take this land. And people are from all over, like the Pacific
Northwest and stuff with their guns to they're trying to like basically have a shootout
with the FBI, trying to do another one of those. So that part
of the country is really good at that for some reason. Yeah, and
and so they're all like ready, you know, to stand their ground or
whatever. And uh, and something came out about they were sending home for
like supplies because they were like camped out with their guns. And one of
the guys, one of the guys sent home for a French vanilla creamer.
That was the funniest thing. Funny. Oh god, that's amazing. You
need some coffee made around here, guys. So Savage, I got a
score to settle with you. And he's poking, poking your nose into my
business and stopping me from getting my hands on organ. Tonight you will feel
the aba and Jean says, give me a break, and then we get
this fucking big Bubba promo. This is a so he it's a very interesting
thing because he basically comes out and just says that he and Avalanche are fat,
and then he gives an example. He basically just shows how he didn't
really excel in math in school. Listen, a lot of people out there
are expecting something out of me. They just ain't there. For a long
time, I had to live in the shadow of public opinion. Well I
don't do that anymore. I'm a grown man. In fact, I'm an
overgrown man. Just letting my partner Avalanche overgrown man. That's a money team
name is there? That oother Chuck Lourie show, We're Fat. That's basically
what he said in Baltimore Arena in front of thousands of people and thousands and
millions of people on paper view all across this country. Who you watch,
o man, Mandy Sandwich. We gotta finish useting thousands of millions of people.
Okay, guy to pal here. What what does Jean say at the
end of taxes? What about this guy doing your taxes? Thousands of millions?
That's a new one. Jean talking about accountants. Jean's like about coffee
table issues. You know, such a like, he's such a he's such
an eight a superficial renaissance. I know, I know, I know.
Like he's a guy who knows a little about a lot of things, oh
just enough to sound like he knows what he's fucking talking about. He's like
one degree more of a normal person than everyone in the wrestling business, or
at least the wrestlers, right, and like he leverages that to the hilt.
You know, I can't wait to play the one, the next one
that he has where he fucking talks about the He just the golf thing with
Baltimore, Like, God, it's so gross. He thinks he's winking at
your dad while you force him to watch the pay per view Exactly. He's
He's the adult comedy in a in a fucking animated movie. Oh god,
Jean, his bull shit? Can you plan it again? Just for one
reason, I want to. I want to really take some time and process
how for whatever reason, Bubba decides to pronounce the word country. It's funny.
It's like he goes nuts. Listen, A lot of people out there
are expecting something out of me. They just ain't there. For a long
time, I had to live in the shadow of public opinion. Well I
don't do that anymore. I'm a grown man. In fact, I'm an
over grown man. Just let my partner avalanche at the night in Baltimore Arena
in front of thousands of people and thousands and millions of people on pay per
view all across this country. Well, macho man, Randy Sandwich, we
gotta finish usting. He went off the rails. I feel like he realized
that. He said, thousands of millions yeas himself. It's exactly what happened.
Oh so good, so fucking funny. He's such a nut And for
some reason ginokl in these backstage interviews, decided to do them right in front
of the mirror. Know how fucking awful is this? And right after Bubba
stops screaming, he walks off frame and you can see him in the reflection
of the mirror grab a gatorade off a table right behind the camera. Man
basically chill and like walking around. Yeah, so there you go. Come
on, guys, So Pyro going off for the nasties. It's tag title
time. They're the nasty boys. Where are the boys? Where the boys?
I can't stand babyface nasty boys? Liked Nace would sting. By the
way, he's got the receiver in his hand. You can talk to Sting
live and I used to love those w W tag belts. Very symmetrical,
very clean of those ones, those that kind of mid nineties one. Those
are my favorite WW tag belts. Always makes me happy to see that in
the US title from this time period. They kind of look like the the
tag belts kind of look like a variation of the of the WCW title from
yes, you know, the early nineties. So the tag belts are on
the line. It's Nasty Boys versus Harlem Heat. Here at super Bowl five,
by the way, the match between Vin Slivan and Dave Sullivan went seven
minutes and eighteen seconds. If you can deal with that, fuck that,
and here we go. Book are saying we don't need you supporting the Heat.
Fool, he screams at a ringsider, I come and knock you out,
you dumb idiot, He calls me dumbiti And I fucking loved that.
Sherry up on the apron, sparkling with a glitter on her face, saying
now they're going to get some and you know he and it is she gorgeous.
She finally says, some people may like her, not really my type.
All four face off of the bell and Nickpatrick presiding. Tony says,
WCW is number one and this is where the stars are. That's right.
Booker and Noobs walk up to kick it off. Book shoves knobs are and
nob slaps him, with book going back with some niece to the gut.
Booker misses a Harlem sidekick and gets crotched up on the top ropes and the
Nasties come over and ring Booker t out on the top rope by his crotch.
You know how that goes, and he hits the floor yep. Then
SAgs runs Booker over on the floor with the runs him over on the floor
with a clothes line, and they go nuts in the building. They still
love that. Why is the why is? The crowd seems to be very
very much into the Nasty boys very much. Yeah, they were over why.
They were just a wild and crazy team and they brought it. You
know, you knew you're gonna get crazy fucking matches when they went out there.
Do you think Hogan's sweetened the sound? No, I don't. I
think he's sweet in the coffee, but I don't think he's sweet now you
think about like the brawls, with Cactus Jack and Max Pain and like,
I mean, yeah, but that's like that's ancient history. This is now
like ninety five Nasty Boys. It's weird. Yeah, they were just meant
chaos. They did the Tupelo brawl after this, it's uncensored against Harlem heat
with a ketchup and mustard everywhere. Yeah. Yeah, they were still unhinged.
So a SAgs runs over Booker on the floor with the clothes line.
They go nuts for that, and then he goes after Sherry and tosses a
chair and they're chanting Jerry and heen And says, so much security Clinton's here,
so so just because in case you forgot who's in the White House in
nineteen ninety five. Yep. So they take over on SAgs and a double
team in the corner and Stevie comes in slugging away and SAgs turns it around
and then they do the uh the double teaming in the corner on Stevie going
you know how the Nasties used to do it, just going crazy with the
windmill punches yep, and then Knobs attacks the legs of Stevie. Ray and
Heenan says, I think they have a plan to take the wheels out,
and Tony says, oh, really, I said that before, and Heenen
says, that's where I heard it. Of course, they frame this tag
team battle is New York versus New York, even though neither team is from
New York, right, not a single one of them is from New York.
Booker gets tagged in and Knobs hiptoses him and sends him out of the
ring and Sabs drop SAgs drops an elbow on him from the apron to the
floor, and then Knobs slams Booker team in the ring and pepper him with
some punches as Booker shouts up easy to SAgs. So I guess they're going
a little hard on brother knocking it off an old book. Uh maybe they
tweaked the bad wheel. I don't know the uh uh Heenan and Shavanni,
you know, I will say, even with even with Heenan being a little
drunk drunk here, they they do such a great job, uh selling the
intensity and the importance of the Hogan Vader match. They do a great job.
Listen. Ever since our clash back in January, there's been extra security
between Hugi and batas they're both in the building. I understand the first securities
in the hall. You couldn't believe it looks like Clinton's here. Oh yeah,
you said that. For the first time they have both been allowed in
the same building since starcat the ones are one in the building, the ones
with the other. They don't want this to be roped in the hall,
they don't they want this in the ring. WCW wants to settle in the
ring for the championship of the World. Yeah, that is a compelling image
of them being on opposite sides of the building. Yeah, you know,
I think the idea that that that also making the case that they haven't been
in the same building together since the clash. Yep, you know there's a
lot there, like you know, extra security, the whole thing. Like
it's done in a way that I don't know, like those those I mean
obviously I don't know. I don't know why, because I feel like if
if we've been given that kind of information and a current storyline, like in
like if we were watching a pay per view and or a p l E
and we got that kind of thing, I think I feel like we'd be
pissed and annoy at modern w doing that, but man, does it work
for this? Yeah? Very interesting. It's almost like that one a W
pay per view where Punk and the Bucks were in the same building after brawl
out. Yeah, they were kept totally separate, and when word got out
about that, it was very very evocative and compelling to think about, like
what if they cross paths? You know? Yeah, But so Stevie grabs
SAgs from the aprin and Booker t comes with a great drop kick, sending
SAgs out of the ring. G Stevie and Cherry just can't get co ordinated
on how to throw SAgs into this guardrail. Oh seriously. It takes a
while, and then it looks lame. Stevie misses his leg drop, and
good for him because if he nailed it, he'd have been fired. Can
you imagine if he landed that leg drolly Steve Ray hilarious with a spin kick,
catch his knobs coming up right in their face. Here we got two
roll ups. Dude, Tell me, now, what about this? Then
this happens? Dude? What the fuck? Dude? I mean, am
I not supposed to you know, put two and two together? Brother match
after match people, I'm right now, dude, I'm saying, I'm not
even going to out the fucking ring. That's where I'm at right now,
dude, because I don't know what the fuck's going on. Brother. It's
bad not that I don't know which Vader I'm getting, Dude, right now,
I don't understand what the fuck is going on in general. Really bad
dude, Bad luck. Dude. Ted's not gonna be happy about this,
brother. You know, I'm not having big talk with Ted. Ted,
and I're gonna have to talk Turkey. Ted and Terry talk Turkey brother right
coming to TBS. That's right, Stevie again, that hilarious spinkick used to
do. Just had a marshal large inspiration and catches Knobs coming up right in
the face to the floor. They go the spinning Harlem kick is what they
call it. Tony says, anyway, Booker sidekicks him to the floor,
and Tony says, they're showing us so many new moves tonight of the Harlem
heat. They're so agile. Well one of them is yeah, right,
yeah. Booker holds SAgs open for a sherry shot on the outside and then
Booker misses an elbow but still does the spinner. Rooney to a vertical base.
Yep, spin a roodie here, SAgs on the floor, yep,
And he didn't. He even claims the Clintons are sitting in the box at
the Baltimore Arena, not to and Bill in the midst sitting here in the
box. Bill's in the box. I don't know about it. I don't
think Bills and Missus boxes either. But SAgs on the floor and Stevie clips
him off the apron CLUMSI live with the lariato almost ripped his knee out in
the process. But such as such as life against the Nasty Boys. He
then says it's not fair, not far from DC. Could you played that?
So then SAgs hits the ropes and hits and eats this Harlem sidekick that
floors him as Harlem Heat gets back into control, and he didn't. Talks
about how they want this fight in Central Park to the heart the heat.
They want to use benches and horse drawn carriages and anything that cement. Okay,
they say security is tight in the dressing room for Vader. Are you
saying you liked this match? Didn't hate it? I hated it? Did
you hate it? Wow? That was so fucking dull, so slow,
and I mean listen, and I get what you're saying about Nasty Boys,
that they can have fun, but you don't give them fucking twenty minutes.
You never give in, Like there are people in this world, there are
wrestlers in this world you don't give long time limits to. And they're on
the list. But they gave them, they gave them fucking twenty minutes.
They're the longest match of the night. And look at that. Wow,
it's ridiculous. The Nasty Boys should never have the longest match of the night.
They are not that kind of wrestler. Small doses, small doses,
quick matches, fast paced, high impact. That's which you go so nuts
that it's win or bust, right, right, you know it's gonna be
one of those things where there's no real there's no real heat segment. You
know, they just got to kind of it's just gotta be manic action.
Right. Yeah, I'm with you on that. That's them and their most
effective for sure. Right you know, Like I think about those brawls and
stuff, and like those brawls work because because it's just NonStop and there's no
real like yeah, like they're just not they're not that kind of wrestler they
need to be. Oh god, it's just it's rough for me. And
this is the second time it's happened. I feel like we we saw another
show pretty recently with UH with them, and they also had the longest match
like it was. It's like ridiculous, like why are they getting the long
runs? They say security is tight in the dressing room area for Vader,
and by that they mean the room would the dressing in it. So Booker
comes in with a big axe kick to Sacks. You know, Elevader,
We listen. There are other people here tonight. They got to eat too.
All right, you don't get all the sauce. Oh okay, forgot
I take it back. You get all the sauce. So Booker with an
ax kick to SAgs gets to Booker misses though the middle rope need drop.
I don't know what you I guess that was the Harlem hangover, and then
he gets power but Power slam by Jerry Saggs tags made Knobs comes in swinging
and dropping. Tony says we've got clothes line of mania slams from Brother Fuck's
going on? Dude? Hear another example Brother throws himself back in his chair
at the monitor. Yes, brother again, dude, He's pointing at the
screen with both hands extended like again. Slams are both members of Harlem.
Larry Otto in the corner Heat with a double whip and he gets a double
DDT and they go. They explode when Knobs DDT is both members of the
Heat at the same time, Sag they do. I don't get it,
but they need to love double DDT's back, then, man, do too.
I love a good double DT. I don't know if I love the
nasty boys in the double DDT. SAgs throws Booker over the top up and
Tony even calls it and doesn't say anything about a disqualification, even though later
throwing someone over the top rope intentionally it would be a big problem. Then
Knobs goes up, and it's a big problem tonight. Indeed, that's what
I'm saying. Doesn't call it here. Noobbs goes up top and does the
jake the snake hand signal. No, he gets up. He gets up,
stands up and does the jake hand signal and then splashes Stevie in the
corner. That only gets too those Booker t makes the save a peer four
brawl breaks out, Knobs is held open, Sherry gets up on the top
rope. Nick Patrick is out after her, is out after a somebody else.
He's distracted, so anyway, off the top comes up Sherry, but
there's a shove and she hits Stevie instead with her shoe. This knocks knocks
him out and guess what, Knobs rolls him up. Yep. Even though
Stevie's gripping the ropes, they explode on the one, two, three and
the new and Randy Anderson runs in and no, in fact, the top
rope rule is an issue. He's gesturing here over the top Patrick walking around
waving his hands gesturing the over the top rule is still in effect, and
he grabs the belts out of the hands of the Nasty boys. Even though
that roll up was way in the ropes for Stevie. That's the second time
it happened on the show where Yeah, the finishing roll up ends up in
the ropes, and I wonder if there's some subterfuge ald play there, Gary
Michael Capettit takes it back, says the referees at ringside have just conferenced and
the nasty boys have been disqualified for an over the top rope in fraction.
Oh my god, and there will go the Harlem Heat scurring up the aisle
with their championships. And uh, I don't know to take it away that
fast. I mean, at least let the people go home thinking they're there
champs for a day and a half. I know, Oh my god.
But you know they have they have tapes in the in the vault where Harlem
Heat still have the belts. So you know that's theerc W for you exactly
they get. It's like book cut his mouth busted open on this one.
As you said, seventeen minutes and seven seconds. Here Harlem Heat to heat
the nasties by disqualification. It just gets better from here. Oh the fucking
ugh toning Bobby or position, he says, Randy better dig a big hole.
He says, he believes. He says, believe me about a hundred
times, Tony Giovanni. Kind of a forced stick here, I have to
say from the brain, yeah, Jean says. You know, I spent
a lot of great years in the city of Baltimore, and this has got
to go down. Here we go, Oh yeah, you hear this that
part go ahead, because one of the greatest four or five pay per views
I've ever been involved in. What the fuck are you watching four or five
pay per views? Well, I mean he didn't say it's the greatest one.
He said it's one of the greatest four or five. Okay, well
it's in the top four or five, so you know. But here he
is talking about making I don't don't understand. He he gives u intel again
on the location, and then he uses these these golf these golf metaphors or
terminology or whatever. Just it's really stupid. The city of Baltimore very exciting.
Just to give you a little idea of where we are, we're about
a driver away from Camden Yards. That'd be a pretty good driver, don't
A couple of three woods away from the Inner Harbor, don't care. Maybe
like a six iron away from the grave of Edgar Allan Pole have to be
a pretty good six iron, don't care. Stop Gene, please, this
is a bad idea. Again. He's he's the golfer. He pays his
taxes, exactly. He's like your dad, like he's the he's the working
man, you know, Oh God, and savage. He's not talking tonight?
Is he boss? Oh, I'm not talking, that's all he says.
Well, sting carries the load of the promo. It's like such a
weird it's such a weird decision like that. He keeps saying I'm not talking,
you know, and he has these moments where it's like, oh,
is he going to talk? I'm not talking? So fucking and Sting,
of course, not the best promo in the world at this point in time.
Did he grow a lot in the stick? Holy shit, this sting
versus the TNH sting, I mean, come on teenage again and and teenage
thing is the best sting that I've seen, because it's like he he reached
a peak and then he went downhill after that. So he's red and white
is staying and he says his chest has macho man chopping on him and marks
from it. The last time we got to talking on live TV, apparently
Yea Savage hit Himsel already broke his skin. That we're both nearly bloody just
talking to one another about how this whole thing, and Savage is throwing furniture
around the locker room and Gene is selling you know, the flying chairs and
Machio again says, I'm not talking. He comes to the like just to
say that. It's like so stupid. Sting says, he's almost frothing at
the mouth for what he might say on live TV. I'm not talking.
No, no, you're talking about I don't know why they're not talking,
but who cares. He's just so pissed off. I guess I guess you're
talking about law and order and justice. No more. You're going to be
no more after this is over with. He sucks so bad Sting this promo.
He sucks. It's not good. It's not good, Sting, it's
not hell So yeah, not talking kind of like the fans. Yeah for
most of this show. Yep, yes, Sting says, I don't want
to take either of me and Gene. I want to go do it.
I don't want to talk either. I want to go do it. Well,
you certainly spend a lot of time talking anyway, Yeah, you know,
what was his job? And then Jean says, back to the desk,
how is your partner, the veteran Bobby Heenan doing, and Tony says,
how do you think, Jean? We're back on camera. Brain Brand
has no idea? What and he plugs uncensored coming up our first pay per
view, No Rules Uncut in the month of March, Blacktop Bully in the
Natural Dustin Roads up next, fucking dope Dartha looks like a fucking dope in
this gimmick. Oh with his red vest on. What is this? Why
do we need a truck or wrestler? Exactly what? He's such a fucking
more. Did he come up with this? This is his idea? How
Laren Anderson came up with it? Really? Because I feel like this is
this to me seems like something that he would love, like just like he
said, fucking weeput Man was going to be a main eventor or something like
that. Barry Darz so idiot Barry who went to high school with Eric Bischoff's
wife, So he was gonna He's gonna have a job for a while Minnesota
boy. But yeah, he they did this whole thing. It's hilarious.
You can find the whole video on YouTube where Barry arsos. Remember he just
came in as Barry Darso and then he started showing up in the audience at
WCW tapings and harassing the wrestlers during matches to the point where finally the police
arrested him and he's brought to jail, and they shoot a whole series of
skits in an actual Atlanta jail with Barry Darso in there, with real invates
rattling the cage trying to get out. It's really really yeah, oh yeah,
oh shit. Yep. He confirmed it that they just went in there
and shot with actual prisoners and real jail personnel too, And there's like this
lawyer trying to put him in to keep him in the clink, and Colonel
Parker shows up to try to give him the seventy five thousand dollars bail,
and so the whole skit is Parker in the jail trying to you know,
work with the with the bails, bondsman and everything to try to get the
guys out and try to get him out. When he gets out, in
the parking lot is his big ass truck, this big eighteen wheeler that apparently
was his and so he's supposed to like this trucker that would go to the
matches, and that Colonel Parker took under his wing and gave his truck back
to and then recruited him to help out the stud stable that's fucking stupid.
Can't forget his finishing arm bar boss the breaker one. Oh, I mean
such good stuff. So black Top Bullshit is back on that cast. He
is, and only we've seen Blacktop Bullshit and did Uncensored, So no,
I don't think there's nothing else to see him on as far as pay per
views. Very short lived gimmick and yeah, the uncensored thing of course,
as we've already touched on, got both of them fired from w stew So
Bully comes out with a foghorn. This is peterbilt Iowa on it, or
he's from peterbilt Iowa and he has his walkie talkie and he's a trucker.
And Nick bockwinkles out here saying this man is not going to be let to
stay at ringside. That is Colonel Parker Meng rather is black winkeled think you
know, how does he know that the guy sitting at ringside dressed like Meng
isn't the real Mang. That's a good point too, what the real Mang
starting suspension all of a sudden, the one guy at ringside he has a
problem with, right, I guess earlier he did try to take off Jim
Duggan's head anyway, Gary Michaelkapetta says back, Nick Bockwinkle at ringside, and
it seems that Meng will be barred. Seems you can't confirm first before you
grab the microphone. You're gonna get on the mic and tell the whole crowd.
It seems like this is going to happen. Yes, Nick Bockwinkel,
looking like someone who runs a bank and freends of any coil. Fuck,
yes, looking like I remember the Chamber of Commerce in nineteen seventy four.
Look at that that fucking hair. That hair that is just like it's such.
It's a it's a time capsule, that hair, Yes it is.
You know well they call him the natural, True says the Rhodes family has
fought everybody all their life. You know why nobody likes the Rhodes family.
You know what's the what's the is? What's justin roads? A natural at?
Exactly do we know? I'm not sure? Still waiting natural, but
we don't know what he's a natural at. I'll tell you what, Blacktop
bullies a natural at promos that make me want to see the match? Yeah,
another match. We're gonna be watching very closely the natural that's the right
I mean, I guess d just ten Rhodes Roads, Baltimore is the final
ways station on the highway. You better be ready, because I've said it
before. You're gonna look like the family pet that crossed the road at the
wrong time. Be ready, the final way station on the highway. Yeah,
and the family pet that crossed the street at the wrong time. I
don't think it's run over. I guess, is what he means. I
guess. I guess would that be the Avida sat pet that was good,
that was just for you? Bat roach baby? Dustin Roads was black top
bully, Okay, not the flatbed match? All right, one on one
match, all the attacks and right away Dustin double leggs. They roll around
brawling. Dustin with a corner mounch puts nine punches down and there's a flip
flop and fly elbow. Do you are you? Are you curious of the
sound that it comes out of Dustin's mouth when sure goes that's how you throw
punches in pro wrestling T s U H. So how come it's always the
guy throwing the punch making all the noise. Well, that's always a fucking
thing. There's there is something to do that any I never asked at at
Renaissance Rumble, and I wish I had because one of the guys actually no,
no, both both uh Grizzly Joe and it's awful. I can't remember
his name the other guy. They both make sounds when they do things like
that. They have a oh yeah, there's there's like it's it's it's it
signifies something because it just comes out when they do moves and they make they
have like a grunt that comes with it. And I don't know why why
there's a grunt. I always assumed it was so that when you actually call
a spot, it's not like so conspicuous that it's the only noise that you
make. You know, maybe it's the way to hide there you're talking to
your opponent, maybe, but maybe not. I know that, you know,
in real fighting, when you when you do that, you do that
because you know, if you if you go or make a noise like that,
it tightens your abb muscles. So if you take a body shot,
you don't get you know, you don't get knocked the air knocked out of
you. Oh maybe that's I'm going to do that too. Maybe I don't
know. Anyway, you know, when you're taking bumps on purpose. He
turns around, Bully clips him in the leg, and there's a hockey fight
kind of style thing where he pulls the jacket over Dustin's head and hauls off.
Ian says, I never saw Dustin look this good as he's walking around
with his head covered in his ring jacket. Uh Heenan also has heard a
rumor about about Dustin. I heard this is not Dustin's son. He's adopted
in fight a minute, I heard that. Where did you hear that?
Trump bully told me that who bully? The bully told me, and you
believe the bully. I'm not saying I believe. I'm just saying that's what
I heard. You are a mess? You know that? Why would have
a mess? Gimme s s would you claim Dustin here's your kid? Absolutely?
Absolutely? I pack his lunch a roadmap. It's pretty good, pretty
funny. Oh god, he's so awesome. Yeah, so he's he's going
in on him, and that's that's interesting because you know, Rock just did
the whole you're a bastard kid, or you're a mistake. Because how much
younger Cody is than his siblings. So Dustin gets back in control. Whipped
to the corner, bully leaps to a hammer lock and kicks a camera in
the meantime, and then Dustin, with a running punt, sends the bully
to the floor. He says, he landed right that place of greasy eggs.
It's about truck stop food. The jokes, the jokes come about truck
stop food. Greasy eggs, you know, greasy grilled cheese, he says.
You know how he shaves. He beats the beats, the whiskers and
bites them off from the inside. Tony says, I apologize for the brain
fans. So then, oh God, there's a KFC chan at Colonel Parker
that outcomes Vader. What Dustin worked on. Channing KFC around Vader is like
saying hey, Siri to an iPad exactly. It wakes him up. It
wakens god. He always talks like that, no matter what the subject.
It's not a promo, he always like does that. It's always bellowing.
That's the perfect words. Oh Dustin working a hammer lock like you wouldn't believe
In this one, Tony talks about how loaded. Colonel Parker is how he
paid seventy five grand to bail out the Blacktop Bullets. I didn't have nothing
to drink. What he didn't says Tony would be an authority on being loaded,
and Shivani holds his tongue on that one doesn't say a word. That's
very funny. Dustin stops on Bully's leapfrog and plants are right on him,
rolls him up for two. Heenan says, Bully has been fighting up and
down the highways of life. I mean these guys are literally man exchanging drop
toe holds and hammer locks at this point in the show, these two drizzling
shits. He break in the corner and Heenen says he's got him in the
rest area. Dustin to the corner, springs off the middle rope of the
back elbow, and then he tries again, does a kind of a pump
fake that leads up Bully to drop down, and then he turns around into
a big right hand a Blacktop Bully and they sat. Tony says he wasn't
sure what highway to use that time, and it says, boy, he
just hit him on the short route there. Oh my god short route suplex
by Dustin for two sunset flip at tempy Dustin Roads bully fights it off,
grab something to stop it, and he grabs the ropes and then I don't
understand the mentality of this, but Randy Anderson then kicks kicks Darzo's hands away.
Yeah, just like insert himself into the match, do that he can
he can hold the ropes for that, Yes, not, you can,
Like, it's not it's not like he's getting extra leverage. He's on the
defense, doesn't even get a big pot. Well, so grabbing the fence
in mma, you can't. You can't do something to prevent someone from executing
a legal move. Can't grab your environment like that? Why not? People
do it all the time. And it's true people. Yeah, like if
you try to sup like somebody they grab the rope, they grab the rope
or whatever, you know, like they there are a million things you use
the ropes for. He again, he's not trying to get extra leverage.
He's not trying to pin Dustin Rose and then holding the rope. He's he's
trying to prevent Roads from rolling him up. Another bang up job from Randy
Anderson. Yeah, he's not having a good night, and I'm usually on
Randy Anderson's side. It's a mild response to that's supposed to be a pop
spot. No one gave a shit, No one because it's a stupid thing.
Again, there's no there's no basis for him to do that. It's
not like a fucking you know, uh like like he's doing a submission hold
on Dustin and then holding the ropes for leverage. That's when you kick the
fucking hand away. Colonel goes over to Dustin on the floor and Dustin walks
him down and catches Blacktop Bully, trying to ambush him into the steps.
Goes Bully. Tony says, I here a bell ringing somewhere. He then
says I'll answer it, or he says answer it back in corner to corner
whip and Dustin Rhodes tries a monkey flip, but Blacktup Bully holds onto the
rope, so Dustin rolls backwards and Blacktop Bully fires out with the clothesline and
turns Dustin roads fully inside out that Rakeishi spin bump yep for the business.
He says, come on, fill your tank up, cover him, Yes,
Bully crawls to Dustin, gets two and then Bully says to the referee,
what about three? Tony says, well, you're right, that comes
after two and here he didn't. He didn't gives him some very very good
advice as what to do next. One two doft it kicks out into Now
you gotta pull those legs up and hook him or the type your feel on
the rope for. Do something. H him with a brick, something,
hit him with a brick? You agree with me? No, I don't
hitting what you said? Where did you come up with that one? I
heard that from you. That's wrong with you. I heard that from you?
Hit him with a brick? You agree? Like, what are you
fucking? What do you when? When? When when he ables to fuck
that on a chavon? It's just so great, it's so great I learn
from you. You just said it. Ah heenen the picture's face right now,
like his oblivious face, like pretending to be in control and he's not.
Yeah, like when you fucking couldn't stand up, Like I think it's
I think it's star K ninety four and he's like the best thing the rock
papers and ship and like just you know, he he stands up in the
sheer falls so good, so awesome, It's so incredible, he even flustered.
Is one of the core. It's one of the great pieces of art
in the wrestling, in the in the history of wrestling. He's just Heenan.
You know, it's like his face. Take me there, I want
to stay there forever. Yep, yep, God, he was so great.
So Dustin launched the floor. Colonel Parker gets some stomps in with the
loafers, and he says he's getting the dust off his shoes. Bullye with
these grotesque driving boots, these brown shoes under black pants. Dustin fighting up
from his knees back suplex by Darso gets too. He said, guys,
he is grotesque, just in general. Absolutely. Heenan said, hit him
with a brick. Yep. Tony says, hit with a brick. Okay.
He says, blacktop bull. He doesn't pass when he doesn't have to.
He just runs you right off the road. Okay. Tony says he
doesn't believe he represents the great. He does pass gas quite frequently. Sony
says he doesn't believe he represents the great. Truck drivers everywhere. Heenan says,
no, he doesn't. His hands are cleaned. Dustin misses the crossbody
on the run and spills out under the bottom rope like he used to do
the bury Windham spot yep, and across the steps even for a particularly nasty
ride to the outside for the natural I see the steps are two traditional sets
of stairs pushed together. I only realize this now interesting. I didn't even
notice that. I wonder why the hell they wanted to put the stairs there
instead of the corner of the ring like everybody else. But to their each
of their own Headen says, you know what happens when you kick a roads
in the head. Nothing Rose grabs an ankle and whacks the leg into the
post and back end roads missus nailbow drop, Heenen says, come on,
Bully, make him validate that parking ticket. Does he think Bully is a
meter maid? Does he realize is he an interstate trucker? A boss man
used to be a meter made according to uh heenan believe with a snapprickle suplex
middle rope leaps into a falling dust and clothes line dust kind hulks up just
a little bit, whipping a backdrop pulls Bully's shirt over his head and slugs
away to absolutely no respet bonds. Yeah the crowd, that's right, that's
about right I do. Let's see the problem Dustin inverted atomic drop. Bully
turns around literally defeated Dustin scores, but Colonel puts the leg on the ropes
on the cover. Dustin grabs Colonel Heen is like, where are you meng
being sequestered right now is where he is? So Dustin's going to suplex Parker
into the ring, and he does. It's at this point that Bully shirtless
misses a lunge at Dustin on the apron and they slug it out and then
Dustin supplex is Darso outside in but falls before Parker even grabs his ankle.
But sure enough, Darcel falls in a cross body across Dustin. Colonel Parker
grabs Dustin's ankle from the outside. One two and three sixteen minutes yep and
ten seconds is how long it took for the Blacktop Bully to defeat Dustin roads
Again, I don't understand sixteen minutes. Why they're giving these these matches this
long time. It doesn't really work for me, and did work for the
office either, at least when they rematch the next month from Dustin Rhodes's book
Crossroads. Mike Graham, who was an agent, and I drove back to
Atlanta together. This is after the uncensored match. The next month. It
was just another routine day at the office. The next day Mike called and
said they'd let him go. Be prepared, Dustin, because you're probably going
to get a call too. Sure enough, the call came. There were
a lot of people coming into the company at the time, some of them
with huge salaries. I've always thought they trumped up the whole thing so they
could move some money around and take care of some other people. I never
would have done something that I knew to be against company policy. I'm a
businessman. First, I told Eric I did what I was told to do.
I brought up the fact that our bookings sheets made clear we were supposed
to follow any directions by the agents, which included, in Mike Gram's case,
suggesting they get color. I told him a call had been made,
but Eric didn't bend. We've got to let you go, Dustin. I
was making a good salary at the time. I could have taken legal action,
but that would have just cost me time and money. I don't know
what I was doing one way or another at that point, so I just
let it set. So it turned out that was the best decision I could
have made, because Eric took care of me down the road, and that
moment, nothing about the future mattered. My life was starting to spin a
little faster than I could control. But against all odds and reason, the
best time of my career was read around the corner, gold Dust Boss,
It's made possible. That's right there, hand there. Hogan's just like throwing
money off the fucking boat. Yes, Austin Foley, gold Dust he is.
He is handing the w what it needs to evolve into the next totally.
And I'll have a chip on their shoulder too, because how they were
treated to WCW YEP Pillman and the fans are receptive to it because they see
with their own two eyes what's happening. A replay shows that colonel put the
foot of the rope and Tony's like, what's that? And he was like,
well, I'll talk to the colonel, not to me. Tony says,
since Starkad there's been tight security when it comes to Hogan Invader, and
he says, Vader has left the dressing room and is storming up down the
hallway, and we want flair chance to start to break out to Gene now
with Vader. Gene conducting this very reluctantly with a great degree of trepidation backstage,
because a chair is flying across the camera as Vader is screaming and growling.
What time is it? Eight A time? Bowler, Colorado, the
whole world? You got it? No, I don't have it? All
right, he says, Jesse Allen and Boulder, Colorado and the whole wide
world. Tell me and let me hear you. What time is it?
Yeah, yeah, yellow a time? It is the time for Vada.
Hogan. You can run no more, you can hide no further because the
demon is upon you. The demon is fear, and you're looking at the
demon, brother Gene. What about the Limo who is in there grabs him?
Does it really matter? What Hogan matters is Hogan wasn't in it?
Not that Limo, Vader. He's not talking about that one. He's talking
about the other one. Hogan says, I would have ended this right here,
my vision, my dream, if you will, in front of thousands
and thousands and millions and millions on TV. It's me to look down at
a broken and bloody hulk Hogan, and I ask who is the man?
And all of your out of your own two lips, I can hear you
say, Vader, you're the man. So Gene is screaming to wrap it
up head on. That's super brawl. This man is nutsing. He and
it says, I'll tell you why we haven't heard from Hogan. He's someplaces
on hands and knees. Please keep Vader away from me, Tony said.
Tony brings up a very very curious question. I went listened to this question.
It's the burning question, and uh, I want to hear hear what
he says here. There's a burnie question. When Vader got out of the
limousine or before he did, we saw blonde hair, We saw there was
a lady. Was that Rick Flair invader's limousine? So he thinks Rick Flair
is a lady? I think so. I mean it's a prettie question.
When Vader got out of the limousine or before he did, we saw blonde
hair, we saw there was a lady. Was that Rick Flair Invader's limousine.
This masterful storytelling is what god. Jean's in the aisle. Now,
this man is he not aware of how grammar works and that, you know
the the last thing that you say kind of is what you're referencing the you
know, like it just that does not work. But whatever, whatever,
over whatever, Anthony, We're gonna get an answer from the man right now
because Gene is in the isle away. But first we're talking about Vader.
He says, this man is an absolute nutcase. Can't remember being that nervous
before, well, perhaps my last appointment with a proctologist. It goes Gene
again, talking to your dad. Yep, that's right, my guest at
this time, and here comes Nah. I you know I didn't I didn't
record this promo. I didn't think it was that interesting. Oh it isn't
so much to say. He doesn't really have much to say. I usually
am always I was ready because I always take flair promos. But I was
like, you know, he doesn't it's not that interesting. Why we was
that you in Vader's limo? Now? Why would I be in Vader's limo?
That's not a note, Gene. I came to Baltimore for the party.
He didn't mention Sabatino's, but I know he was thinking about it absolutely.
I saw Dusty back there, and remember the nights we were sold out.
We drove Baltimore crazy. I sold that wouldn't be for another couple of
years. I'm here because WW, so what's happening? We even got the
matro man in WW the Stinger driving a wild and big hul Cogan maybe his
last walk tonight that gets around a booze. That's why Hogan's nowhere to be
seen. Flair says he's going to be sitting down there in the front row.
Five the best looking women in this town has to offer. So I
guess they don't even have five good looking women. That's what I could take
away from that. Where did you get the woman? He talks right past
that question. After the show, the party at the Marriotte all night long,
so still trying to pull that old Ric Flair card of getting people to
show up at the hotel after the show. Of course, Jean says he
knows the manager. I know the manager over there, and I don't want
you to start anything. Oh fucking g Gordon Lidley, for fock's sake,
you know, that's a good one. Can you imagine like the picture of
the manager of the Baltimore Marriott and jean that's up in the office you know,
of course, the back office where the work the staff clock's in,
you know, yeah, yeah. Flair then walks down the aisle. There's
like a picture too of like, you know, him with the manager like
a big smiles like eh. So that's the extent of Jeanie's ability to get
down to the bottom of it. He asks Rick Flair if he's in the
limo. Flair says, now, why would I be in the limo,
leaves it at that and makes his way down to ringside. Flair takes a
seat in the front row, turns around and jaws a bit with a guy
behind him, big smile on his face, having lots of fun. And
here comes Earthquake. I mean the avalanche. You could tell. You can
forgive me boss, considering the songs are identical. Oh my god, I
mean there's no difference anyway. Like he literally is Earthquake, just because they
give him a different name because they needed another natural disaster that that wasn't copyrighted
for John Tenta and the WWE, and they got on him about that,
so they turned him into the Shark, which was just incredible. So from
Mount and then he was just John Tenta from Mount Everest, Washington. There
isn't even a Mount Everest, Washington. No Mount Everest Washington. What the
fuck talk about Everett, Mount Everett, Washington. I don't know what they're
doing here. From Cobb County, Corn Cobb County is big bubbad, close
to half a ton between these two. And it's sting and it's Pernerner sting
Man called stage the man called what exactly man called sting at it. He's
a man, he's called right, He's big as a mate, He's quick
as a cat. He's big as a mate. That is what a thing
to say. Someone is big ass. So the sizzlers go off as he
steps out a reference Thinger winning the w W world title in nineteen ninety and
this very building from Rick Flair yep, and we get kind of a MIDI
version of Savage's music. It's it's almost like an AI generated version of the
graduation song. Well, he also like because if I remember correctly too,
it's a it's a different version than what he usually had used to be usually
done no no, no, no, no, no no no no with
the with the guitar actric guitar right, I don't recall him having this more
you know, traditional but synthetic version of the song. Tony says, ninety
five is off and running, and this is where the stars are is Rady
Savage makes his way to the ring for his first w CW pay per view
match. Not for that shit sting and Savage Avalanche and Bubba fuck that tent
his favorite sauce Avo Ranch. They show great Mooda in the crowd with no
paint on and Sonny Ono with sunglasses. You know what, you know what
Bubba's favorite chain is what big Bubba Gump? Oh fucking hell ah so mooda
in the crowd with no paint on, Sonny on and sunglasses and and Roy
Rogers for that matter. I was gonna say, I was gonna go for
that big Bubba Gump and Roy Rogers. That's where he likes to eat.
So there's mood up with Sonny and other assorted yakuza. Tony says, you'll
see top stars in WCW. Heenan says, plus you'll see sixty to seventy
other stars sitting ringside. Yeah, I see two, but okay, so
a Tenton Sting started out first, lock up, push off Sting to the
corner and tent to flexes. It was pretty fascinating to see these WWF guys
in the mix with Sting. I know, right, he's the one who
can't be knocked down a peg and put out of the picture. He will
grapple with the Hogan crew, tent to with forearms in the corner to the
body. Now corner to corner, Sting fires out with the clothesline, tend
to still standing, and then another is still standing in a drop kick and
tent to stumbles into the ropes, at which point there's another lariat, but
no Bubba grabsting from the apron to slow that down. Savage comes in lunging
and Nick Patrick cuts him off as Bubba in tend to double team Stinger in
the corner. Bubba in now as he drops Sting with the right hand.
And let's see just one of those amazing guys you know where you can't you
really can't boo him unless he's playing a heel character, right, you know
he's and he's like stinging that way where you don't you don't ever find yourself
wanting to boosting. No, he just exudes babyface charisma. Yeah, and
in a good way, and not in a way that drives you crazy,
like you know, the way that accounts for why he had such a long
career. Honestly, yep, yep. Believable when you think about it,
like the fact that he just retired, it's unbelievable. And and how much
you know, everyone came around to like, no, this guy's a Hall
of famer, absolutely is, like you know, the one he's on top
in WSW, there was very little to point too that he was doing particularly
well and that they probably you know, mis miscast him or misplayed him over
time. And the w W, you know, the crowsting didn't go well.
It could have been massive. He was obviously a huge attraction for a
short period of time, but just as quickly the life was sucked out of
it. Dude, a poor decision making him not having a TAN or whatever.
But now when you realize what he was able to do and show that
he could do in TNA, in WWE and too much greater green a W,
it's like, no, this is too much longevity, that's too much
of a connection with the fans. It's too much effort. Think about it
too. He's had eighties, nineties, two thousand's, twenty tens, twenty
twenties. He's had a five decade career, and you know, in those
early days surfacing an amazing worker. Yes, those matches with Vader. Are
you fucking kidding me? He is only one decade away from Terry Funk.
Wow, all right, we're talking about a guy who, and not only
that, like and unlike unlike Terry Funk, he was able to maintain oh
yeahticism in an incredible uncanny way. It's really unfair how well he still moved
around the ring. It really is at the tail end. So you know,
he had to wear a full bodysuit. But whatever, it's fine.
Sure, I mean, look, you know you gotta wear baggy T shirt
tucked in or whatever, hung sleeve. Oh used to dressed like he was
a stuntman about to light himself on fire. So Bobby and Tony go back
and forth somehow, and Bobby says, you scolding me, questioning me,
and Tony says, I'm sure I'm not the only one. Tonight Bob is
tripped on the top and crouched by Savage and Sting comes with a big time
superplex and they go nuts for Big Bubba taking the ride. Yes, yeah,
oh yeah, they like of any nine Hogan there. Oh yeah,
Big Bubba take it. A super plex from a big time baby faces always
money. So they ping pung Bubba back and forth between Sting and Savage,
and Bubba's hanging in the ropes like Terry Funk. He's doing a total Terry
Funk sell job in the ropes. Yeah, sitting on the middle, grab
in the top, staying with the running right hands and Bubba to the floor
and Savage climbs and it's patting a double x haandle on the floor and they
go nuts for that, Yes they do. Tony says, Machu Man never
look better physeiqu wise, and he says he's always like that, when,
of course he was not for years. At the tail end of his WW
front, they kind of his glare, nodding away at what's happening. Yes.
He then calls him the thing that stirs the drink, and Tony says
the thing, the thing, the thing, and he says the straw.
I'm sorry, I'm excited, Tony says. He that stirs the drink.
That's awesome, would you quit mumbling, Tony says, Savage and Bubba now
mixing it up. Savage was inviting Wick Flair to get in the ring apparently,
and Tony says he's retired officially, he signed the agreement and Halloween havoc,
he's not a participant. Mmmm. Bubba shoots him in the ring in
Savage ducks in a sunset flip and Bubba tries to sit down on Rady Savage
but misses the Savage gets out of the way, running nee from the macho
man to the back of Bubba, sends him into the corner and then a
roll up one two and Bubba takes a big bump after kicking out of the
roll up. Savage then slaps tent To right in the face. So awesome,
Oh god, right in the middle of all this rustling, he just
slaps John Tento. What the fuck? Yep? And then ten to steps
in and shoves him, and then he slaps him again. So great intent
to so Pisty jumps into the lock up like he used to do, shoves
down Savage, and Savage tries to body slam Avalanche. They get him up
for a second, potent To crashes down on top of him for two.
He didn't scream spin on him. Tony says, we've got children watching this.
You don't want to teach them bad habits. It's very bizarre. Tend
to missus a corner charge. He's hammocked on the top and then Savage and
Sting take turns punning him in the stomach. Sting then targets the leg of
Avalanche and a chop block to a big pop. They'd like to see him
chop down the tree as he goes with the scorpion deathlock, and they're up
out of their seats for this, putting the scorpion deathlock on a man of
that size. Savage cuts off Big Bubba and leaps into his arms like almost
like a Hurrican Rana. He jumps up with his legs on Bubb's shoulders and
punches him in the head. Pure fall. Four brawl breaks out. Sting
splashes Big bub in the corner to a pop, and then John tent as
well. You know when Sting lands at the finger splash, it's always a
big hoo moment is Sting then leaps for tent to and gets yanked out of
mid air and slammed with the canvas. Flair is now on his feet at
ringside, pointing and tating Randy Savage, and Savage is right on Flair pointing
at him. There's a security guy who's supposed to get between them. He's
smiling and laughing. So Savage literally has to grab the security guy and pull
him between him and Flair to give him a cover for not attacking Rick.
What the fuck is like? Guy's like, oh, okay, all right,
dude, whatever tend to drops an elbow and sting in the ring,
and you know just what an accelerant to things Randy Savage was like. You
see him in action here. He just has so much chaos and activity.
He's phenomenal. He's he's he's everywhere. It's absolutely amazing. Every moment is
critical, you know, yes, corner to corner on the whip and ten
to misses a corner, splash and sting lifts and body slams avalanche. No
real drama to the slam. He just does it. No, not at
all. You know, it just kind of happens, and you know what,
it works. It works, but it doesn't work as well as it
could have. Fine, but it works, but it works. Bubba punch
a Sting who collapses on a tent his dick and his big Canadian dick av
a lunch is more like it, and that's exactly right. And then a
Savage goes up top off the hot tag in a double X clothes line,
taking down both heels. Pier four brawl once again as Savage slams Bubba Sting
is mounted in the corner on Tenton. Savage climbs and scores with the top
row bilbow drop tent to lands and his ass. For no reason, he
just gets up and then falls back down. Savage covers the wrong man,
so they have that moment where there's no count. Sting then climbs the ropes
as Nick Patrick admonishes Randy Savage. Sting then clumsily does a flying clothes line
to tent to who's supposed to trip over Big Bubba rogers back. It doesn't
quite come off cleanly. People weren't in position you could tell. No,
I definitely the match definitely fell apart. He actually was a pretty solid match.
Oh yeah, the very end when it just kind of like no one
knew where the fuck they were or right who they were supposed to be with
it, just that one's waiting for someone else to do something right, but
it falls into place. Sting crossbody on Avalanche for the one two, three,
ten minutes, eighteen seconds, Stinging the macho Man defeat Big Bubba Rogers
an Avalanche here at Super Bowl five. Yes they do, and uh Savage
is back in Flair's face at ringside. The security guy who's basically in the
same shape as as Reginald Bell Johnson somehow preventing Randy Savage from getting to brick
Flair. So it's Tony and Bobby. Bobby talking with his hands and Tony
maxine his hand gestures and gives him nothing. And option two to talk to
your favorite wrestlers. By the way, they're taking your phone calls as we
speak. And they cut to Stevie Ray and looks like Sherry and she has
the headset on and Stevie has the receiver and Bookers just standing there with his
belt. Jesus, yeah, exactly. Do you have any burning questions for
Harlem heat Um, No, I don't Option zero for you, that's right
option Heenan rises from his seat back in the announced position, screaming at Hogan,
come out, quit hiding. I don't know what he's looking at.
He's screaming at somebody, get out from under the bed and quit hiding.
See, I like I there is something, there's something wonderful. And and
Heenan was the best at this at really selling the end of Hulkamania. You
know, that's what he was always talking about, how this was gonna be
it. He was great at that. Hulkamania is done, It's gone.
It's gonna be done because he's such a dip shit and such an idiot,
Hogan, And that's why it was. That's why it didn't bother me at
all. When at Bachelor of the Beach ninety six, Hogan comes out to
turn heel and Heenen screams one of those money lines ever in wrestling, as
far as I can see, it's tremendous. Whose side is he on?
Exactly? Because finally Bobby Heenan was vindicated for calling Hogan shady for like exactly
a decade and a half. So that's money. Even though I think Tony
was kind of like pissed off at him for doing that. Ye give it
away. I think I did hear that, but it didn't give it away
because the idea is is is him? Is he whose side is he on?
Right, It's just another heen of absurdity. Everything that came out of
Heenan's mouth was immediately to not be believed by the audience. Right, So
how is this an exception? Yes, I did get people thinking in those
terms, but the fact that it was Bobby Heenan saying it almost made it
even less likely. Yeah, exactly because like you kidding, mean, like
Heenan's gonna fucking say that bullshit? Right. So Tony recaps fall Brawl where
Vada won the triangle match to become a number one contender, claimed Hogan had
been ducking him in a match coming up at Havoc. They had a bit
of rivalry with the butcher Starkate and meant remember Vader kind of gets detoured into
the world title feud befohen the WCW belt. Still No, it was like
the international title right with US sting right, International world title or ninety four
before Hogan puts them together. No, it wasn't Hogan who put them together.
Stingerslare yeah sing from the guy. So Vada won the US title at
Stark to set this up and uh, he says, Hogan, call omaha,
if you're gonna need some insurance, that's right, You're damn right,
Tony Schivanni making faces. The whole time is Heeni goes off on Hogan the
announced position. You had a hell of a run, but it's over.
Yeah, see that's what I'm talking about. He fucking sells that shit.
They do a package showing all of Vader's power bombing and splashing everyone and choke
slamming, sting with one fucking hand through the mat, just killing everybody.
The demon, his fear, Hogan, Vader waits for no man. So
they show all the menacing clips of Vader doing his thing and Hogan convulsing at
various times, and it's made event time that it is backstage first, Hogan
is with Jimmy Hart and Gene Okerlin. No crowd noise. They shut the
crowd noise off. You cannot hear chairs or booze. No, you cannot
get gold on his waist wrist, Van Hulk and the whole Oh please,
the hook star has a lot to say. Wait o something mean Jean.
To say that the city of Baltimore Brother was not electric would be an understatement.
Brother Vader time has been running rampant. He even bullying his way around
here the last couple of days. Brother, we know the power of Vader,
we know all about the d and he's been telling us about Brother.
But the thing is, Brother, this is a final test for Hulk Hogan.
Brother. This is a test that separates the good from the bad man.
Brother, the immortality of hulk Amania, and he will have to bury
me six feet under in Baltimore, Brother, to seal the trust, the
love, and the devotion and the future of all those hulk a maniacs from
me. Mean Jean, the way he is psyched up. Jimmy Hart,
you voiced your concerning Hulk even now at the very last moment here, I've
got a voice by kiss, I am concerned about you tonight, my friend.
Well, it goes all the way back to the home front. Brother,
even my family says Hulk Hogan. You can walk away. Brother,
You don't have to prove a thing. The man's gonna hurt you. Brother.
Well, I know all about Vader, Brother, I know what he's
made of. And to say the pythons aren't ready would be an understatement.
To say, Hulk Hogan isn't psyched and ready would be an understatement. So
Vader time, this is where the power lies. Brother, We're gonna test
tonight. We're gonna drag you around. We're gonna see what he's made of,
Jimmy Hart. And by hook or by crook, we're gonna corner the
dude, Brother, whether I gotta play possum, whether I gonna face him
straight up. Brother, We're gonna find out what he's made of. But
Jimmy Hart, the dirtiest player in the game, is sitting out there,
Brother, and he's an Edison bystander. And wouldn't it be a shame Jimmy
Hart if he was to happen to get in the way right when I had
Vader in the launch position. Brother, keep on eyeing. I'm Jimmy Hart.
Don't worry Hawksher. I've got an old Rick Flair. We know we
are ready to face the damon. Baby. It's not Vader time, It's
Hawkster time. Daddy. The way I feel right now means geen. All
the other world titles, Brother, all the last year's and professional wrestling have
came down to this moment. Brother, This is the most important day of
my life. Brother, and the man that walks out of there alive.
The man that walks out there has a W. C. Delbia. Brother,
We'll shape the future of the nineties. We'll lead the brigade from this
day on. It was said it was marketing stone. It's not Vader time,
brother, it's Hull time. And what you're gonna do one of the
largest armies in the world, run wild on you your mind? Vader?
Amazing. I love the interest. Steischels there too. Hogan a demand for
the nineties. John Wayne for the nineties kind of made reference to and he
did more explicitly in promos on television before the show about how like, you
know, there are promoters from New York to all over the world, but
we're number one, We're the leader. So he's like kind of referencing that
all the titles before this have led up to this. And yeah, he
talks. I mean, does he know what understatement means? I don't think
so. When he says to say the Hulk is not psyched for this would
be an understatement, So that means he's really not psyched for it. I
the problem. The most important day of his life and most important match of
his career, let's get to Michael Buffer. Okay, Vader time, you
know what that means. Kang Kang Kang kan Kang kang Kan King King King
King King Kong wowud amazing cape thing. No, Harley got the uh the
white cape of fear, The white cape of fear, he says, Harley
Race is not here. Holly Race is someplace he may be, who knows,
That's what he says. Man Vader barks at this kid in a Vader
mask and then, no, they made those. I don't know if I
was custom made. I don't know if they sold those or what. I
don't know they made those either. That's pretty wild. Vader takes off the
cap, the cape on the walk and you know, boots kang, boots
Kang Kang kang, and he he's an American made opponent. He is Hang
Hang Hang hang hang hang hang hang. Weir panels where I walk around doing
it to this day, I do it. He steps out with his lips
pursed and his hands on his hips, does the v with his hand cups
the year Jimmy Hart with a megaphone in the background. It's hul Cogan,
It's hul Hogan. They say, USA Today a Leguardi after the SB award
said no one noticed Grand Hill or Dick vi Tail, they noticed Hull Hogan.
I said, what the fuck is that supposed to mean? What a
bunch of bullshit? I found the clipping February seventeenth, nineteen ninety five.
This is what the USA Today said, all right, headline CBS on front
row with DAYTONA five hundred. This is like how they got David Arquette into
USA Today for winning the world title. And when you look it up,
it's actually two sentences. This is not in a full article. This is
definitely out of that book. This there's like, you know, twelve paragraphs
down, well way more than that. I mean, it's a full column.
It's at the very end where they're listing odds and ends, and all
it says is the Pistons Grand Hill and ESPN's Dick Vital when unrecognized at LaGuardia
Airport after the SP's his fans mobbed turner wrestler Hulk Hogan. It's all it
says, Okay, big stuff, Jesus cut away to the hulkster bandana and
the crowd. Hulk rules signed on the hard camera and offers as This match,
Ladies and Gentlemen, is sanctioned by the Maryland State Athletic Commission Chairman Dee
Chester O Sullivan d Chester O'Sullivan baby who once said to the Baltimore Sun in
nineteen seventy one in an article about potentially banning wrestling in the city. Promoter
Phil Zacho believes wrestling provides a good outlet for the tensions of fans, but
Dee Chester O'Sullivan, chairman of the Maryland State Athletic Commission, says attending wrestling
shows is not always beneficial emotionally or physically. Ooh shit, we have saved
a good dozen lives by resuscitation, says O'Sullivan of his Civic Center wrestling experience.
Okay, these old people go through every emotion with the fighters. You
can't get in to sit down. What a capable commissioner he was for decades
except to sit down, Kay Stevy, commission Nick Backwinkle. When the bell
rings, the men in charge of the action will be referee Randy Anderson.
And now this is the big brawl of the WCW super Brawl. This is
the battle between the two greatest big men in the world today. Ladies and
gentlemen for Baldemore, Maryland. Let's get running. A great face off between
the two in the middle of the ring. Looks great. It is great.
Hogan Invader Hogan stonefaced. There's one thing, though, you know that
I really, uh, you know, it seemed like Buffer was really running
through the whole fucking thing. It It's like it was very quick. I
don't know whether they burning low on time or potentially. Yeah, I think
that's a distinct possibility. I mean, they gave everybody else twenty five minutes
for no reason. I know, seriously, there's those fucking losers wearing black
and red. He weighs four hundred and forty six and one quarter pounds.
No, he actually weighs buff four hundred forty six. Yeah. His hometown
is Boulder, Colorado, where he was an All American football standout double quarter
pounder for the Caling Thank you for the Colorado Buffaloes. Did Jr? Write
this? He has championship titles as opposed to what kind of titles on every
continent Antarctica, Australia and the Antarctican Championship. I guess I'm my feet accomplished
by no other and tonight he plans to rip the title belt from rip from
the champion's grasp, ladies and gentlemen. The man considered by many to be
the greatest big man in the history of wrestling, the number one rank challenger
in the world. Yer absolutely creators on his knees making the V symbol he
in the ads and United States Champion buff forgot that? Yeah, where is
the belt? By the way, he doesn't even bother wearing the belt?
I know, well, maybe scared Holgan's going to steal it from him and
his opponent here in the company of his manager of the Mouth of the South,
mister Jimmy Hart. It curs to me here I wonder if having Jimmy
heard him. You know Holgan, we talked about this earlier. I mean,
I think it seems like a prima donna with a manager in there.
Yeah, I mean, I definitely think that there was. It was a
negative. Wearing his familiar yellow and red. He weighs two hundred and seventy
four and one half pounds. God, you have to come in one half
or one quarter a puff with this guy, just so we can say that
Hault, can you step on the scale one more time? Please? In
one more weight advantage, eat this hersy kiss, so we can say one
quarter pound. He comes to us from Venice Beach, Florida, I mean
California. He's known the world over as one of the most popular and charismatic
athletes ever. Tonight he is ready not only to defend his title, but
to prove that he is the world's greatest big man ever, big man wrestler.
Oh my god, he's the world's greatest big man. Vader may not
have a belt, Boss, but he's coming for his title. They boo
on that. And Hogan had snatched the big gold from Hard and now he's
hoisting it up in the air, and Michael Buffer brings it home, Ladies
and gentlemen, presenting the heavyweight champion in the world, world and the King
of I'm the King of hulk Mania, Hulk Mania. It's the fucking best,
the one, the only Hulk ho He points out flares at ringside,
and as soon as Hogan hoists up that big gold Man, they start booing
the shit out of him. It's something to see. He can't fucking win.
Hulk Hogan versus Vader. It's main event time at super Bowl five.
Here's the ding ding ding, and Tony says, here we go, wherever
you are, I know you're ready for this one. Crowd's hot. Hogan
looking around, nervous, he's great, wearing it on his face. Oh
yeah, chanting something. I can't tell if it's Hogan Invader, but they're
are They're alive. He knows that there's trouble. Hogan uses the wristband to
wipe some spit from his face and the collar and elbow, and you better
believe the ushah shah. He starts raining down to the corner. Hogan gets
free. Tony says he's not sure Vader overpowers Hulkoguan in this one. He
is larger and heavier and determined. Heenan adds, you think the World champ
is not Tony Fire's back. You think the power of hul Comania is not
based on determination? Oh brother, fucking Tony babying Hulk Hogan and WCW.
I know you just knock it off, pal, all right, seriously,
lock up. Hogan lands four punches to the head in Vader faces them down,
takes off his mask, doesn't feel any of the punches, and the
fans the shit none. He is not fucking around Vader. Okay, Vader
fodder and he tosses the mask and Hogan backs up, looking around concerned.
They show Muda for no reason. For a second, it's a lock up.
Invaders standing tall and that lock up as they go to the corner and
Hogan slaps Vader five times across the face, throws a bunch of right hands,
doesn't matter, trying his best to do something that will affect the big
man. Corner to corner, whip and a larry it in the corner by
Hogan and he looks away like brothers. Invader walks out of that corner and
they go nuts. They go fucking nuts. Vader's eyes are bugging out of
his head because Hogan threw all this at him and he felt nothing thing.
Bobby Heenan is losing it. That man is going to eat you alive.
He's screaming, yep, ah, so good. He says, you're gonna
be like a twenty five cent Hanburger and a bun. It's over for you,
Hogan. I'm thinking, yeah, if he treats him like a twenty
five cent Hamburger, it's over. What about? Uh? You know what
I think of every time? Every time we uh, we see a Vader.
I can't help but think about the mask and the stench of the masks.
You only have to hear that once that that being stung. You think
about the sweat, You think about the smell, You think about like also
the fact that you know he does not give a shit enough to clean it.
No, No, that'd be bad luck anyway, right, of course,
how much it smelled in his gloves. Ah, they cut the Flair,
who's looking back at fans around him. Shut up, punk, keep
your mouth shut, smiling at him. Tony says, Flair winked at Vader,
I swear on Saturday night. And Heenan says, the lights are bright,
they were in his eyes. You don't know if he was winking at
him or not. Exactly, yeah, exactly what are you talking about?
Lock up? Hogan grabs the wrist. Hogan sucks chant. It's distant,
but you can't hear it. And I'm sure Hogan could hear it there in
Baltimore. Oh, yes, this is not Hogan. He's trying to wrestle
him, does he not. He does not know what to do with this
man. Hogan does the step over arm bar because Great Buddha is watching.
I mean seriously, like he's got to pull out fucking japan shit. He
does. You know, Vader is like fighting off a hulk Cogan armbar and
stacks him up and steps on his face to break it. Hilarious to see
Hogan work an armbar off his back, It really is. Hogan gets up
and looks to the crowd. His hair is so long in the back.
It's problematic. He needs he needs to cut it before it gets that long.
It's not okay. It makes him look just ridiculous. It does.
Vader shouts no pain, no pain, no burd not what he says when
he's ordering in France. I can tell you that exactly. Lots of pin
walk up to the corner. You want to see. You want to see
ada ada. You want to see an example of what we're talking about.
When we've said ada ada, this is it. After he screams no pain,
he locks up. They go to the corner and how and he goes
to work on the hulkster fucking I mean, listen, okay, he Vader.
Vader might as well be Matt Damon and the Martian. Yes, harvests
all those fucking potatoes. Oh my god, Hi lo cuff the head Lo
hi Aido aid Aida to the gut to the head, short arm, clothesline
down, goes Hogan, swirming around on the canvas. Heen and I love
it. Whipped to the corner barge by Vader leaping, barge collapses, hul
to the floor, goes to the champion, Vader goes out after him.
Buffer has to uh sit ringside, so he's watching it all play out,
Yes, amusedly reversed whip in. Vader goes over the rail as Hogan finds
a bit of refuge there, and Flair's standing up because Vader pretty much ended
up in his seat on that spot. Tony says, let's watch this closely,
see if any information has passed between Rick Flair and Vader here. Nothing
is. Vader gets up in frustration and like lifts the guardrail and dislodges it.
He's so pissed off, I know, slaps it into the ring,
steps back in Hogan with a series of right hands. Vader selling. Now
now Hogan's actually registering the shots. Yeah, some chops in right hands.
Corner mount rains him down, does the hulkster Corner to corner whip is reversed
Hogan bounces off, but he drops with a clothesline, and Bobby Heenan in
total denial. Okay, he knocked him down, but to keep him down
as another thing, he keeps moving the goal posts like Enon does. Yeah,
it's so great and always money. He's not concerned with the off.
He believes, he believes in Vader. Here listen. Vader fears, no
man, let alone that puck and the yellow and orange. What are you
talking about? I'm talking about the world champion. And he's leveling Vader again.
Stuck around, stick around right and a yellow and orange. He says,
no yellow and orange, come on, dude, slip of the tongue.
So Hogan, with an Irish shipping a big boot lands on Vader's face,
but he does not fall. He does not fall. He stumbles into
the ropes. No, he does not, So Hogan hits him with the
clothesline. Invader goes three sixty over the top to the floor, and a
guy dressed like Stevie Ray and mang Is still is right there in the front
row. It's awesome both there. They're both there waiting, looking, dreaming,
hoping, desire, smoking. Vader, what's that touching? Saw more
than I did. Vader's back in the ring, and Hogan pounces on him
with the right hands, drilling him down in the corner. And this is,
of course, guys night out. Okay. When it comes to responses
to Vader, the guys, the guys, yes, WI HBK Survivor Series
ninety six. The guys are hungry. What are they hungry for for the
ass kicker to kick ass exactly? They're hungry for demolition. And I'm not
talking about acts and smash. They want it. They want to grit their
teeth. That's how badly they want to see Hogan eat shit, so bad,
amazing stuff. Pal Hogan rakes the eye, scoops Vader, but he
can't slam him. Vader lands on Hogan whipping a barge by Vader in the
corner. Totally calls it the Vader bomb, so I guess we'll call it.
I don't know, standing, it doesn't really work. Vader bomb is
the one in the corner, and then you got the power bomb. Yeah,
but this is this is standing in the corner, Hogan's standing. I
don't know. Yeah, he called that the Vader I call it the barge
because I think they called it that in the nes Wrestling Challenge game. Okay,
really that's funny because va that's what they called it. When I think
when Andre gets you in the corner and attacks you with his ass, funny
the barge could be wrong. But Hogan is clutching the ankle and Ada tucks
in a cuffing shot to his head and heenen sys. Vader has twice the
desire of Hogan, and Tony says, I don't know about that. He
then says, I just told you that. What do you mean or no,
I just told you. Tony likes what Hulkamania has meant to youngsters all
over the world, including his own children, and he then says, Okay,
that's great. Wave the flag, have some apple pie and drive a
used car. That's the man of the nineties Vader. But I spot where
Vader dropped Hogan with a short arm clothesline and Hulk Cogan saying he's too strong.
They caught him saying that to Jimmy Hart's that's really fucking awesome, great
moment it is. He's too strong. He's too strong. It's funny because
I feel like there really is a good, a good you know, a
good. Uh, one of Hogan like selling and oh yeah and really making
it. He's got plenty to point to here to counteract Leon's points about it.
He really and everybody's points, Like everyone gives Hogan a hard time for
this match, and I don't think he does a really good job. Actually
one match of the night, I mean, for God's sakes, it's one
of Hogan's best matches ever. Yeah, and uh, it's just in retrospect,
Vader looks at the whole picture and just tells himself that, you know,
Deck was stacked the whole time. I was just lied to and I
allowed myself to believe it. You know. That's that's what he is.
He's one of the he's one of those proud guys that's pissed off that like
he just like got the okie doke and fell for it. You know.
Yeah, So Vader gets in his face, give up while you listening shows
he even throws a short punch right to Hogan's eye. It looks like a
potato in a half. He didn't said, you know, Hogan is a
quitter. I've always heard that. Butcher told me that, yeah, yeah,
this is great to give up, and that's not going to happen,
and I think that he may be too dumb to give up. I bet
he quits. You know, Hogan is a quitter? How much you want
to bet on that? I've always where that, But you told me that.
Amazing, he says, it's so matter of fact that, like,
did you know interesting fact? Yes, Hogan's a quitter. So awesome,
A lot of people know that. Yeah. Vader with the front power a
front slam, climbs the ropes Vader bomb and man does he spring off those
ropes for a long time before launching, but he scores when he does,
Yes, he does. Hogan is convulsing on the canvas one two, and
he barely lifts the shoulder. No, hulk up on that one. No,
not at all. And then Vader positions Hogan, yes, and he
starts to climb for a second Vader bomb or so we think, no,
no, no, this is pay per view. Is Vader? He's going
for it? What's he doing? He's going all the way to the top,
all the way to the top. It's the top. What's he doing?
Why is he doing it? Because you know what, because he he
just got a brand new fucking batch of fried chicken and he needs to put
on the salt, so he climbs to the top. In Vader against Hogan
in ninety five, Yep, soars through the Baltimore evening sky. He does
with the moon salt for the for the industry. Yeah, he misses,
but he goes. He salts. It's great. Hogan rolls out of the
way all the way to the floor, as a matter of fact, and
Vader crashes and burns. Fight spills to the floor to the rail, goes
Vader. Hogan on the run, grabs a chair. He then shouts he's
trying to get disqualified, and then he creams Vader with the with the chair
and does not get disqualified. Awesome, crowd booing makes sense. It's a
he'll move to attack a guy with a chair like a bitch when he was
kicking your ass. Totally, it totally is. But you know what,
whatever, man's awesome. It's a great mahs that side of Hogan, of
how he's willing to go deaf Con five, he's willing to fight trench warfare,
you know, fan of that, big fan of that. Grabs the
hair again and dunks Vader on the head and with a chair in the referee's
face. Hogan, then Pepper's Vader with his forehead with right hands and into
the ring they go Irish whip. Vader ducks, he snatches and choke slams
Hogan. He dunks the Hulkster. Yes, cuts off that rally. I'm
here for Vader cutting off a baby faces rally. Absolutely, That's one of
the reasons to get up in the morning as far as I'm concerned. Vader
fucking my god, is heen and electrified at that choke slamb Yes, yes,
yes, take that miserable creep out. He says that truly amazing.
What what is it? Bischoff made a reference to it. What is henan?
Pardon me? What is Tony Shiavanni call the the choke slam. I
have it here somewhere, let's see. Uh like uh, I call it
a throat pick up. Fucking idiot, you gotta pay. You're gonna pay
for those, I think, but a throat pick up. So I guess
the choke slam. This is pretty giant, right. He was the first
guy to make it his finisher besides nine to one one in ECW My God.
So there it is. The throat and pick up. It's the move
that everyone fears, the throat pick up. He didn losing his mind.
Heenan definitely coming alive for this match. He is sobered up to say the
least. Oh yeah, it's kind of like you know when like you're dozing
and then like you hit the rumble strip in your car and then you're like
wide awake for the next two hours. Exactly, yes, exactly, that's
what's happened to Heenan. Don't waste any time, Vader. He scream and
cover him, hook and work him over, then mal and then molest him.
Don't waste your time with that man. Heanan's so nervous about Hope coming
back because he's seen it happen so many times. Actly, he has been
He has witnessed this time and time again. It is Hogan dead to rights
coming back. This is the time it won't happen. He's so money.
He is calling a Hogan match. You're kidding me, Yes, I mean,
there really is nobody better, you know, to call, to call
a Hogan match. He's just he's finals and he's got that like almost like
that degenerate gambler mentality. It's like, yes, when your guy's got the
lead. Make it as boring and as conservative as possible. Yeah, and
when your guy doesn't have the lead, just go fucking absolutely balls to the
wall. Yep. Vader with his hands in the corner, a big vertical
suplex gets two, throws hands in the corner and then hits Hogan with the
big vertical supplex flare. It looks confused at ringside. Is Hogan kicked out?
And Hogan starts hulking up off a supplex, off a sup plex.
He's hulking up some go nuts. But it's kind of subdued the reaction to
this. It's a weird place to do it. I mean, very weird
I would have done. I mean because especially because he just took a Vader
bomb, you know, like you'd think that would have been the place to
do it. Not the power bomb, but the va Vader gets so pissed
that he goes up and misses the moon salt right exactly. But if he
hulked up, that wouldn't work, No, no, But he has to
hulk up like he should have hulked up. I mean, I guess you
gotta put the moon. Then he should have connected with the moon salt and
Hogan kicks out of it. Oh, that'd be huge. Imagine that and
moon salt and then he kicks out. Yeah, I mean that should have
been the way it happened. Maybe that would be laid it on too thick.
The people might have rejected that. I also don't think you you need
to waste the moon salt in the first match. I think the moon salt
is something you need to you need to bring out at the right time.
Agreed. And I don't think this was it. Well, we're seeing the
hoof face for sure, Yes we are. And here comes Thunder and Paradise
Hulk fighting back. Series of right hands kids count along with the shots whipping
a boot this time Vader goes down. He does hard under the big booty.
Then Holgan drops the big leg cover one. Vader kicked out. He
is kicked out at one. Now we've seen people kick out of it before,
but one fuck fucking nuts. And then he gets up and kills him
into the referee. Yeah, that should have felt like a much bigger moment,
though, I feel like Vader was too quick even before the one count
to kick out. I feel like it was I don't know, he was
too quick to just like, move on to the next thing. It didn't
resonate and settling. I don't know. It didn't bother me that much.
Honestly, I was. I was pretty into it. It worked. It
worked for me. So taking the boot and the leg drop in, Vader
not only kicks out at one, he's back on top of Hogan and power
bombing him within seconds yep, and he has him dead to right and he
covers Hogan, and Hogan's there for the three count, but there's no ref
No, he's covered. That's get or remember that he is. He is
pinned, he hit the visual pin. There's a lot of like again,
I just don't I I question a lot of the the the criticism, yes
of this match, because I feel like, actually, Hogan actually did a
lot of the things right. Yeah. If it was his one side it
as Vader portrayed it, it would never have been this well received match.
And it's not just it's not just Vader, it's it's people. I've read.
I've read a lot of comments about that from people even before Vader's book.
It's just people not watching the match again and just letting them. Yeah,
the stories told about the match overwhelming the actual brass tacks of what happened.
It's getting so angry or people are just being so sick of Hogan at
the time that baby, yeah, they don't let it go, right.
You have to live in the time and realize how like people aren't, people
aren't operating out of the principle that you know, this is shortly, this
is the last year of baby face Hogan. We're really going to have,
you know, for them, it's going to last forever. So it's the
same old shit, you know, right, And the fact that even Vader
can't overcome some of these trademark Hogan spots tells him that really all hope is
lost and that there's no way that Hogan's going to adjust the way that he
does business. But you're really going to look at at the at the you
know, between the lines, and see that Hogan actually did some good stuff.
Right, It's here if you want to see it. Yeah, yeah,
he's in Dead to rights. Flare is pissed. He gets in the
ring, rips off the coat, and slaps the match, trying to do
the three can himself, and then he tries to hassle up Randy Anderson to
consciousness, and then he stomps on Hogan and throws Randy Interest into place,
stops Hogan again. Vader splash. This is off the power bombing to splashing
the ring on the mat one to no. Hogan kicks out and comes up
like a madman that doesn't hold up or anything. He just gets stands up
and starts throwing punches like crazy, yes, at Vader's face, and they
do like that that was a fire up moment that they really liked from Hulk.
Again, I don't think it was. I think it worked really well.
I think it was done really well. Yes, agreed on both counts
Irish whipping a big boot against the ropes goes Vader three sixty out again to
the floor. Camera man gets nailed in the process. We lose a feed
and that's not, you know, a thing that Vader takes very lightly,
not at all. Flair gets in the ring, thrown some chops and Hogan
absorbs them and that's enough for Randy Anderson. He sees Rick Flair interfering and
attacking the hulkser and he calls for the bell, which is kind of bullshit
when you think about it, because like Hogan hit him with the fucking shit
right in his face earlier, and no one cares, like, I don't
know, does a clothesline out of the ring over the top count is throwing
someone intentionally over the ropes? I really don't know. I don't know.
It happened twice. The rules are completely you know, like, what the
fuck? Where are we? What's going on here? So after fifteen minutes
and nine seconds of pretty intense and watchable action, it ends in a deeply
dissatisfying qualification finish. And that was w Stew's problem is that even when they
happened upon a money dynamic and set it up well and executed it well,
they just couldn't get the finish right. There's just too much bullshit, yeh
to ever give you that finish you wanted all the way through Star K ninety
seven. That's another story for another day. For tonight, all Cogan defeats
Vader by disqualification and retains the ww championship and then hits a big boot and
drops Flair and chokes him a bit. And then Vader comes in and blindsides
Hulk. They hold him open. Flair throws punches and bunches on the Hulkster.
They pick his leg Flair puts a figure four on him and a big
pop as Savage comes out like a bat out of hell with a steel chair
and Sting as well. The heels bail and that's the end of the show.
As Sting and Savage stand toe to toe with hul Cogan as Vader and
company make their way up, Vader's got a big smile on his face,
saying who's the man unto the camera as he came out strong. I feel
like, yeah, he did. He totally did. He wants to look
like, you know, no bother to me, no problem. Buffer doesn't
even announce that the winner by disqualification as Hulk Cogan. He just says still
heavyweight Chandmen of the World and that's it. Wow. As the pyro goes
off, Hogan and Savage celebrating Hogan's Cup in the year and posing like crazy,
and we roll credits on this super Brawl number five, Boss Unreal.
Quite a show, quite a match, quite a promote program between Hogan and
Invader for sure, and we've now put this one up on the shelf as
well. You be the judge as to what really didn't didn't happen in this
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