Best of the Bus: Diego Pavia Says Vanderbilt Will Run Tennessee + Make The College Football Playoff

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Speaker 2: Is that a backhanded compliment?

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Speaker 1: No, I think it's a great compliment. I think it's a great I think it explains everything about his game, his antics on the field, off the field, everything you hear the area around the Eagle Pavia. It makes so much sense that he was a how like you were a state champion, but you were kind of telling me that you were number one in the country for.

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Speaker 2: For like fourth grade into like seventh grade.

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Speaker 3: Which is before puberty. So fourth grade is seventh grade. Then everyone kind of hit puberty, and then after that it was it was no, it's crazy to be number one in the country. I'm just messing with you, but that is that is wild. I feel like you are the first generation of cats that grew up watching Johnny Manziel. Like the way you play, and I mean that as one hundred percent comment, like you talk shit, you get after it. Dudes hit the shit out of you in the sideline. You're limping on your leg, but your boys, your offensive lines watching you limp over, they're getting they're muscling up against other cats, and you just going there and you just don't give a fuck. It really feels like it's like, hey, we got a play call, boys, but diego at the end of the day, like you're gonna do whatever the fuck you want to do.

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Speaker 2: I think sometimes, uh, they think that's what the play call is. But I'm just changing it, you know what I mean. So I just change it to what I like.

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Speaker 1: So you you'll just go you'll go a well and change it to whatever you want.

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Speaker 2: At times, yeah, yeah, like uh, if the play say it's a run, play second and short, like now we're we're deep, we're going deep. We get in the next play, no coach.

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Speaker 3: Where he's aware in the time it's happening, He's like what the fuck?

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, Sometimes like they get to talk to you now, and so like on the earpiece, it's like whoa, whoa, Like what are we doing? Like he's talking to someone else on the top, you know what I mean. But like I can't talk back. I don't have a mouth, he said, he can hear me. So it's just like shit, just better work.

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Speaker 1: You're like you're thinking your head. You guys are taking a little too long for my liking. Like let me, I'm just gonna draw something up right.

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Speaker 2: Well not he'll call a play, but it's like I checked down and we do a number system, and so if it's like a run, then I'm not changing it, you know what I mean. And then sometimes you asked me in the film and like what'd you get here, and I'm thinking, well, I thought you said a different number. But in reality, in my head, I'm just changing the play.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 3: What do you what are you changing the play based off? Are you looking at safety rotation? You'll at this nickel press corner over here and you're like, okay, they're bringing a little pressure over here, or you like, hey, it's we're here to score. We're here to score touchdowns. I'm here to ball out.

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Speaker 1: Coach.

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Speaker 2: It's like tendancy, you know what I mean, Like, oh, first first drive against Let's say they were playing Bama, first drive against BAM when they brought the house, second and short. All right, man and man, I'm expecting man and man, let's take the top off.

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Speaker 3: I mean we listen, we can jump around. We have to jump around all of your like your career, the no offers, you have two D two offers, you go to juco route and you jump around essentially with kill THEE in your entire career. But like you did bring up something that was that Vanderbilt hasn't done since win.

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Speaker 1: E never been.

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Speaker 3: I've never done that. And I remember sitting at tight end you at Vanderbilt's practice facility and your boys running up and obviously I see the offensive lineman. We wp up, you got a bunch of cash just ripping around talking about oh shit, we we'd that. I'm like, hey, this white guy. Is this guy doing right? But then they're like always starting to hey, this Pavia kid, this Pavia kid, his CAD's the truth, blah blah blah blah. Like you get to you get to play Alabama at Vanderbilt, it's a totally different atmosphere. It's still an away game for you guys because at this point we don't have the lore of Diego Pavia and Vanderbilt yet, and so you have this stadium out of construction, Nick Saban or no, this is killingdi bor. They come in and you guys put on a clinic like it's like they score, you guys, go go down the field, eight nine, ten plays, score again, back and forth and are able to beat Alabama. Like obviously I've known you a little bit of time, and it's always confidence, But like, how at what point where you're like, holy shit, we're really going to do this, Like it's actually not talking anymore, We're actually going to be able to pull this off.

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Speaker 2: Oh like when we won, I would just think like when I when we pulled the ball and I got like a twelve yard game and then like the game was over. But like I always thought like we could win, like they know, Like that's just how I approached the game. Though. It's just like, uh, if you go in there with the losing mentality, you're screwed already. And so for me, I don't care if it's Bama, Nebraska, Michigan. We don't say that any words.

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Speaker 3: Do you get something Michigan?

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Speaker 2: I do?

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Speaker 3: What's up?

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Speaker 2: Well, Michigan's a great school, but they should be winning more than they should with the cap that they got, like de Poortnoy donates to Michigan. I know the nil the roof. Should you not win?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I agree, And we won seven games last year with throwing turned off. Like if you're if you're talking about, hey, there's multiple phases to an offense. You're gonna take off probably like a fifty an offense and still win seven games and just knock down, drag him out three yards and cloud of dust.

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Speaker 2: The running back was good, though he should have went higher than what he did in the draft.

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Speaker 3: You know, he started his first twenty games at the University of Michigan. He was a linebacker. I think we got to make this cat a running back.

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Speaker 2: He's really good. Yeah, he saw hid where's he at now?

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Speaker 1: Come on?

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Speaker 3: I think he went to the Jets. I'm not sure, but yeah, I mean, listen, tough year. We win the national championship. You must have forgot about that in twenty twenty four, and then we go into this past year. Yeah, we had some difficulties at quarterback. Not going to come out the boys at all. We had a hard time tossing the ball over the yard. It was bad. It was not great. Now we got this cat, Bryce Underwood, who apparently is the second coming. I'm a little nervous about that, but like you've got to assume, at the very least, we're going to be a little bit better. And the throwing categories were last years. I think our defense is gonna be really good.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I think he'll be really good too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Have you met him before?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 2: I haven't, But like I've seen in some of my boys that know him, they say he's pretty good.

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Speaker 1: Your guys's confidence is obviously very high coming off of last year. You had an incredible year, iconic best in program, history. Really, first time you guys ever beat a top five program in the program's history at home against Alabama. You guys go down to Bear Bryant Stadium this year. You in your brain, you think the outcome is going to be the same.

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Speaker 2: For sure, I have no doubt. Like we got the guys to go do it. We got the firepower, we got the depth, got the defense offense. Like we would be selling yourselves short if if I was to sit here and tell you, like we don't have the face to go win the national championship.

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Speaker 1: You guys, are you boys are thinking natty?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you guys are sitting here in your offseason program. You're thinking national chap national championship. I don't want to be rude. That's a that's a very high expectation for you guys. If you guys don't want a national championship, was that a disappointment?

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Speaker 2: For sure? You you win ten games and the sec you're in the tournament and then it's any one's game, and you like you, I like me over everyone.

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Speaker 3: I love the chipps on it shot because when he talks, you're like, hey play for Vannerbilt, But like Lokey, what he's talking about I believe everything he's saying.

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Speaker 3: And have you always had this type of chip on your shoulder where you're like, yeah, it doesn't matter who's in front of me, they're they're going down.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like we were talking about wrestling, and wrestling is a true one on one sport who's better.

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Speaker 1: Me or you?

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Speaker 2: And so I feel like I developed it from wrestling for real.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna ask too, how much you think like wrestling played into that. It's like, because you're right, Like, you go out there, it's one on one, the win is on you, the loss is on you, right, and you being as competitive as you were, like learning that about you being number one in the nation growing up, Like he was hitting the circuits like the Triple Crown, Tulsa Reno. We were chopping it up pretty good because I had no clue that he that he had a bag like that been wrestling. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we're finding common friends, common people that we have in common.

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Speaker 3: Did he ever come across Cody?

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Speaker 1: No, because he was like, how was your brother? I asked how he was? He was like twenty three. I was like, oh, yeah, this about a decade ago. But yeah, I was like, you know, Cody, how we won senior nationals? And he's like again, he was a stud wrestler, so he understands. He understands the respect there. Yeah, he gets the game.

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Speaker 3: You talked about being like number one of the nation from fourth to seventh grade high school? Did you keep wrestling all the way through?

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Speaker 2: No, I really like took a year off eighth grade year. I didn't. I didn't. I knew I loved I love football, not wrestling, so I was really just focusing on football. And then I had no offers, but I and I still had a partial scholarship to unc H Northern Colorado. And then after that, I was like, no, I'm still in the state of football. Walked on in Juco.

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Speaker 1: So you had a partial for wrestling Northern Colorado and you opted to go to Juco rode in football just because you loved it more.

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Speaker 2: Walk on football, dude.

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Speaker 3: People are going People always talk about how, like, you know, you look at a guy like Cam Woard zero offers out of high school, he's now the first overall pick. When you are going your freshman through senior year of high school and you're putting out there every single week, you're you're obsessed with football, you love it. I'm assuming you're the same intellity you do now, Like what level of frustration is coming to you when you're seeing other quarterbacks probably in the same state as you'd been, Like, Bro, I am better than him. Why are they offering these cat instead of me? Like talk about like yeah, that mind frame and all that things, because there are cats right now that are listening to this podcast that are probably in the same exact situation. Like I feel like, am I just delusional? I swear to God I'm better than these other guys?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you see it all the time. And then you go to camps too, and you're putting balls like in way better spots and this kid's like a four star and you're like, what the how is that kid a four star? You know what I mean? But like you don't want to play or hey either and like go to coaching, but yo, what the Like why you got offering this kid and not me? But like at the same time, like the cream rises at the top every time.

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Speaker 1: So what was the journey like when you were in Juco, because I want to say that there was a story that they were kind of briefing us on that you were still you know, not having any offers. Did you go to the JUCO National Championship. Yeah, so there's another quarterback there. They've played against that. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: This is why I liked JUCO two because like the coaches there, there's a lot of politics in like D one. Now, if who gets paid more is gonna play and JUCO do matter if you're a five star, no star coaches trying to make it out too, so it's best player on the field all times. And so I transferred in with this four star and it was me versus four star, and I legitimately beat out a four star. That's when I knew stars don't mean nothing. And then took it over. And then the next year we won the national championship and then I finally got I had three offers. I had Jackson State where Dion was New Mexico State, and then Saint Francis and.

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Speaker 1: The New Mexico State one because that's where you opted to go. Was the quarterback you were facing in that national title game. He was an offered kid from New Mexico State. You ball out, they end up flipping.

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Speaker 2: So our head coach, coach Kill and coach beck Aer offensive coordinator, were at Hooters in Las Cruses, New Mexico they told me the story, and they're at Hooters having to be or whatever. They're hammered, and they're watching the game the night before they offered the other kid that we're about to play against, and my OC knows I kind of like get fired up about that stuff. So he comes to my room. He's like, hey, they offered the other kid, don't worry about it, just play better than him. Tomorrow. That went out there. I had like three touchdowns, two hundred and seventy yards probably like eighty rushing beat him like thirty one fourteen or something. And then the next day I got a call from coach Kill like I was offered. They pulled his scholarship and he.

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Speaker 3: Told you they pulled this kid scholarship.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they told me like the exact story.

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Speaker 3: Right, yeah, And were you okay this? No, I'm thinking about it later down the road, Like what was about coach Kill? Was it really at the time just like, yo, they offered it the biggest school, I'm going to go there? Or was there already a relationship kind of intact with coach Kill?

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Speaker 2: No, I was thinking about going to Jackson State. But Dion was so real. He was like, hey, you like you're not putting this ain't a fifty to fifty. My son's playing regardless, And he said that, yeah yeah, and.

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Speaker 3: He's even if you were better than even if.

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Speaker 2: You're better, like, my son's playing regardless. He's like, we're looking for a backup. It's like if you want to come here and be back of him. And I'm thinking my head, like, I know, fucking back up, you know what I mean? So I was like, I'm not going to Saint Francis because I can't go to Lead from there. So I was thinking, ship in New Mexico State is my only option?

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Speaker 1: Damn. What was it like getting recruited by Dion?

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Speaker 2: It was pretty cool. It was short, it was short, but he was real. That's what I like.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, man, that is that is That's awesome.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean Dion Sander's sitting there, and for him to sit there with all the s Sander stuff going on, he falls in the draft of the fifth round and essentially you look back five six years ago. He's like, hey, diego, like, we'd love to have you, but like you'll be holding a clipboard because no matter what my son's wanting, Yeah, even if you're throwing dots Yeah, and obviously the wrong guy to tell that too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Another good trip on his shoulder, right, like you got a lie? Yeah, less truthful production.

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Speaker 2: Just keep the mic close to.

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Speaker 1: The production when you go go to New Mexico State. Remind me, is this when the world was starting to open up with transferring in Nio. Yeah?

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Speaker 2: No, it was the year before, so it might have been twenty twenty one, twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because I'm asking, because I'm thinking, I think it's.

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Speaker 2: Twenty twenty two, so and I just started creeping up.

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Speaker 1: So you're you're probably thinking, Juco, this is probably the best route so far with New Mexico State. If I ball out here, I can get to a better program. Were you even thinking that? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: No, uh, I was thinking, shit, Well, I lived in New Mexico my whole life, so it was like I wanted to play against the Lobos and that's our arrival school and the Lobos. The first year I was in now at the lineup playing with this other kid, and the only game I did not get to play was against the Lobos. So the next year I was like, this is money game played against the Lobos. There's a little story about it that before the year I pissed on their lobo, like in the mid in the midfield of their indoor and like before the game, no one said anything about it, and they were using it as fuel and they thought they were going to beat us and then be like use it against me after, you know what I mean? Anyway, when in there wiped them out, the head coach was all sad and stuff, but I really had something against them because they didn't recruit me either out of Juco and I want a national championship. They were still losing and or at a high school. So it was like real life like beef with the coaches.

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Speaker 1: It was personal for you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so you tail those old as time. Yeah, Like I'm from this state, I want to go to this school. I'm assuming you want to go to Lobo. Yeah, and then they don't offer.

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Speaker 1: It's like show you, Yeah, no, I gotta go piss on their loan. What trans the oldest time?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: What conversations had to take place or what went through your brain where you're like, you know what, I don't know how to get these boys. I'm gonna urinate on the fifty ross thought.

00:16:51
Speaker 1: Before you answer that question, what was your strategy? I thought it would be funny.

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Speaker 3: Before you answer that question, I have a question for Will Comptent. What is lobo.

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Speaker 1: Spanish for uh no, clue, lobos chicken. Now that's polo.

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Speaker 3: What's your favorite? Whoa, oh, that's a tough l for Will Compton, the tough alf Will Constant. But yeah, what's the what's the thought process?

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Speaker 2: Like there was no thinking.

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Speaker 3: It was you don't say these guys, Yeah, yeah, that's some that's some Blue Mountain State type ship. Johnny Man's l Blue Mountain State. What's the old Billy Bob Varsity blues? He just put the VCR thees and kids like, this is gonna be my this is what I'm doing. So you just went and pissed the fifth year line? How did they find out that you did that?

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Speaker 2: So the the guy who I was with, Reggie, Yeah, he he posted on Snapchat and then.

00:17:52
Speaker 1: So you're with you're with a buddy, and he was with three buddies.

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Speaker 3: Picture this fucking cat sweatpants on.

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Speaker 2: I was with like three buddies and one of them recorded, but I didn't know. And then I came back to my phone and they're like, hey, tell Regali take that off. And I took it off and it was too late.

00:18:15
Speaker 3: They already got ahold of it.

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Speaker 2: I already got a hold of It's.

00:18:17
Speaker 3: The news network of New Mexico.

00:18:19
Speaker 1: Yep, they jumped all over that shit as hell.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll score that game.

00:18:23
Speaker 2: We beat them by like ten, Okay, so you got ten fourteen something that Okay.

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Speaker 1: When does it start to sink in or like when does the conversations in thought process start to happen that I can go somewhere else now.

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Speaker 2: So what happened was at New Mexico State, we were two and three, ended up ten and three. So like by game we're like on a win streak and we're about to go to the conference championship and stuff, and so like before that, like a game before when we're like nine and three, my coach gets in my ear like, hey, I got I got someone calling me from a power for school. You'd really like it. I want you to come with me when the season is over. It's like, all right, bet, like this is my opportunity, you know. And so he he's doing his thing, and then it's our offensive coordinator. So our offensive coordinator at the end of the season leaves and he's like, all right, I'm going to Vandy, and so he wanted me to come with them, but coach Kills still out in Mexico State. Then coach Kill a week later decides to retire, and then I was like, okay, well if I hire the defensive coordinator, then I'll stay. Didn't hire him. That was my sign later, So.

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Speaker 1: If New Mexico State were to hire the DC, you would have stayed.

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Speaker 2: I would have stayed.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what was about the DC that you really they got to hire this guy?

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Speaker 2: He was real. He wasn't pay me the money I wanted. Okay, and uh he was like he was the one who, like, our defense is really good in Mexico State. So I was thinking, okay, well we could win here and then there's like a chance like how Boys State went to the playoffs, like that we'd be that team that whole team was freaking stacked, Like we got we got Eli, we got meet Eli, MK Trent. Well, these are just guys on the team. Yeah yeah, I'm just saying first names to but you guys are dogs. But we got dogs on the team. We got like seven of the guys from New Mexico State team on the Vannerbilt team and was.

00:20:23
Speaker 3: There a situation where you were possibly gonna go be a part of the wolf pack Nevada.

00:20:28
Speaker 2: I committed to Nevada.

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Speaker 3: So this is while you're in New Mexico State going a little visit.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I took some visits. And the whole time that I'm taking visits, I'm like, back up my mind, I thinking I'm going to Vandy. So the whole time I have a notebook that I'm taking on these visits. I really didn't know how to read a defense when I was at New Mexico State, and I'm like just penciling in, like just meeting with the offensive coordinators how they how they uh read the defense, you know, middle close, middle, open, blitz, how they call. And I'm just taking little like details away from these offensive coordinators just in case I do go back to Vandy, like how to clean stuff up?

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Speaker 1: Okay. And this when you were looking and taking business and thinking about Vandy was coach Kill had he not retired yet?

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Speaker 2: So he so he retired, And then I was like, because Coach Kill is like basically kind of like my dad, and so like when he retired, I was like, you know, I'm just going to Nevada, Like Nevada. I really like Nevada. That like coach Choke And then I commit that night and I called coach Beck, who's offensive coordinator of Bandy, and I'm like, hey, like, I'm committed to Nevada, Like I appreciate you guys. He's like, wait, wait, wait, I got someone to call you. Coach Kill calls me, tell me he's coming out of retirement to be basically just be on the Vanderbilt staff and just take care of the offense. So then my mom was like, yeah, you're gonna go to Bandy. So that yeah, I'm going to Bandy.

00:21:47
Speaker 3: And have you been to Vandy at this point yet?

00:21:49
Speaker 5: No?

00:21:49
Speaker 2: It never took a visit.

00:21:50
Speaker 3: So did you have no idea about Nashville, Tennessee or the area or nothing like that? You know what you saw SEC and Conference? I gotta get there? What's you throw in there? Right?

00:22:02
Speaker 2: Are you good?

00:22:03
Speaker 3: God? What did I say something?

00:22:07
Speaker 2: Do you know the three conmerces of the NFL, A f C, NFC and SEC.

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Speaker 3: But the two last national champions were from the Big Ten?

00:22:18
Speaker 5: Right?

00:22:19
Speaker 1: But how are you gonna?

00:22:21
Speaker 2: But is there more in the Big Ten or in SEC?

00:22:24
Speaker 1: College football has to kind.

00:22:25
Speaker 3: Of play out like the NL is established a level playing field that we all we all sit here, we all everybody can pay players now, right, everybody can pay players, not just one because you're right, it is a f C, NFC and SEC, and we're talking about pay checks. But now that everybody can pay everybody, it's like, okay, now it's just a f C NFC and then the rest of college football.

00:22:45
Speaker 2: So do you think the Big Ten has a higher percentage of winning it this year? The SEC, the.

00:22:51
Speaker 1: Big Ten, Big Ten, the national title?

00:22:54
Speaker 3: Yeah?

00:22:54
Speaker 1: Yeah, big?

00:22:55
Speaker 3: Oh absolutely.

00:22:57
Speaker 2: I mean, listen, you guys about on the back what you guys know, Yeah, is that double?

00:23:05
Speaker 3: Oh that's more than double. But if you look at the recency like that, So those forty three national championships, how many of those came after and I al started. That's that's the question you got to ask because the SEC, ya, you guys would have national treatment. You guys are paying seven figures to players.

00:23:22
Speaker 2: It's probably when I was in it's probably two and two.

00:23:26
Speaker 3: I don't think it is.

00:23:28
Speaker 2: Yeah, two and two. You're saying that didn't pay players.

00:23:33
Speaker 1: I know we were there. This is a clean conference, clean conference, high character conference.

00:23:38
Speaker 2: No do that?

00:23:40
Speaker 3: I mean as far as I know, two and two.

00:23:41
Speaker 2: As far as I and two.

00:23:43
Speaker 3: Right, two and two, and the last two have been.

00:23:46
Speaker 2: If we were having this podcast in twenty twenty two, I would said the last two have been in the SEC.

00:23:51
Speaker 3: But we're not right. If we were, if if this is nineteen twelve, we've been talking about how the Titanic sunk a couple of months ago. Like what are we talking about? Like if I could go back in time, I would invest in Netflix, but like we're just yeah, exactly, we're living in the now. Brother, we can talk about crazy shit.

00:24:09
Speaker 1: So, speaking of since the NIL era, give us your first run in the NIL game, because clearly you had stuff going on with either stay in New Mexico State. I want to go to Nevada. Now I'm going to commit to Vandy. So your first crack in the NIL game.

00:24:24
Speaker 2: First cracking the NIL game. I was getting paid fourteen hundred in New Mexico State, and I was per month for the year, per month, okay, And I was pissed because Eli Stowers was getting three thousand a month and he played tight end and I played quarterback.

00:24:38
Speaker 1: So your piss is on your own team. This is the internal locker room, this.

00:24:41
Speaker 2: Internal locker man, fuck that, like I need to go harder, you know what I mean?

00:24:46
Speaker 1: Yeah?

00:24:47
Speaker 2: And then it all worked.

00:24:49
Speaker 1: And then when Nevada's recruiting you, like, what are they telling you?

00:24:54
Speaker 2: Am I allowed to say that?

00:24:55
Speaker 1: I think? Is he not? Why wouldn't he be?

00:24:57
Speaker 3: I think? So we could double check. But essentially, when you are in the transfer portal, people come to you and they're like, we could pay you this.

00:25:04
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, right, like they like they they everything you hear on the internet.

00:25:10
Speaker 1: I don't even know what's on the internet. Yeah, it's it's like when so for example, Gryce Underwood.

00:25:15
Speaker 3: So there's a four year, ten point two million.

00:25:17
Speaker 1: Right right, right, you learned that stuff, but it's not so you know, candid that you understand what everybody makes in the NFL. So it's more of like you're saying, it's more storytelling. So now that you're at Vanderbilt a couple of years removed from it, I'm just I'm truly curious, like when you're like a new guy in that circuit, like what those conversations are actually like and if they're real, if some of some of it's fake. You feel like you get lied to and just even understanding that you had a tied end on your team that was making more than you, And it's like gotta chip on your shoulder because that' stuff that everybody talks about but you don't really understand until year and it's like, oh, that is a real thing. So I'm truly asking, not on like a gotcha moment, I'm just like, what were these conversations, like when you're on a lower level, how much of that weighs into the impact of you actually going to that school because just.

00:26:01
Speaker 3: With things in respective when Will and I put in college, you talk about making fourteen hundred, Like I think I got twelve hundred dollars a month.

00:26:06
Speaker 1: Yeah, we were in on a SKLLI check.

00:26:08
Speaker 6: Yeah, and just a blanket statement. These are conversations that he had with people completely separate from any universities.

00:26:16
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, that's.

00:26:18
Speaker 3: A great insurance pose because we're not here to get anybody.

00:26:20
Speaker 5: Yeah.

00:26:23
Speaker 1: Uh.

00:26:24
Speaker 2: I would just say like, well, coming from that fourteen hundred to like these other schools were offering me like a like a car houses in like big time money. It's like holy shit, you know, like.

00:26:39
Speaker 1: Like that even with like Nevada and when you're coming out of New Mexico. Yeah, yeah, yeah, damn.

00:26:43
Speaker 2: And so like obviously this last year I didn't go into portal or anything because I knew where I want to stay. The most important thing to me is like playing time and then obviously winning a national championship when we got the guys to go do it. So I would never leave these guys.

00:26:56
Speaker 1: So New Mexico, when you're thinking about Nevada, Vandy, is there an amount of money that you stay at New Mexico State? Like does it come down to Obviously there's other factors, going with your coaches, going with a coach kill who seems like a father figure to you, Yeah, I'm sure they probably get a little bit.

00:27:12
Speaker 2: That was priceless. Count that was priceless. Of like them obviously taking me into Mexico State, That's like, that's priceless. And then I would have stayed at New Mexico State for one hundred thousand and shit. Yeah. And then at Bandy, the quarterback they just brought in, they paid them way over one hundred thousand, and they offered me one hundred and fifty, And I was like, well, I didn't know that, you know what I mean, I'm going from fourteen hundred to one hundred fifty thousand. I'm like, oh, sign me up, you know what I mean? Yeah, And so that's that's how I took you last year.

00:27:46
Speaker 3: How does college football work when guys are getting paid this much? Like do you guys have meetings with financial advisors? Do you have people come in to be like how do tax Like do you understand taxes? These brackets? Like do you have people that are taking care of all this for you?

00:27:57
Speaker 2: Yeah? I hate taxes.

00:27:59
Speaker 3: Everyone does. Isn't it crazy?

00:28:01
Speaker 2: Like the minute, Yeah, it's awful. Yes, but I'm gonna I live in Nashville, Tennessee too. That's a lot of things that players don't get, is like the taxes here like here Florida and there's like seven states, but taxes. What else did he ask?

00:28:15
Speaker 3: Just how how the process works with college football and like making sure everyone's funny actually literate.

00:28:20
Speaker 2: They they So Vanderbilt does a good job of like bringing in you know, ex players or alumni that are big time people who work in like the business, and they come back and tell us all about it, like we have probably eight nine meetings on it.

00:28:36
Speaker 1: When you were younger and coming into this new money was there ever like a shock or surprising moment of like, oh fuck, I'm doing a little too much because you're just now learning about what taxes are, financial advice, you're starting to get maybe coach kills checking on you or your mom. Right They're like, okay, I need I wasn't seeing this rightway. I thought i'd get all this.

00:28:53
Speaker 2: Yeah, I give it to my all, to my mom and she handles it.

00:28:57
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00:28:59
Speaker 2: That's so I don't. I don't. I've never touched a dime on my nio.

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00:30:00
Speaker 1: When you go to Vandy get in the Nashville for the first time, You're talking all your new teammates, your new coaches. They obviously brought in another quarterback who was making more money than you. Like, what was your you know first not like welcome to the NFL moment or like welcome to the SEC, but you feel like you're in a different league than you were in New Mexico State.

00:30:19
Speaker 2: Uh, I don't know if I ever had one. Let me think, shoot, yeah, I never really had one. I said, haven't had my welcome to So.

00:30:31
Speaker 3: When you get to practice your first practice fumming in New Mexico State, go to vanderbel and SEC school. The speed wasn't different to you. Nothing was different to you.

00:30:40
Speaker 2: No, I thought I was. I felt pretty good the whole time, and then especially like taking on those trips, like I was just studying the game a lot more. But I would say, like maybe the workouts were like a little bit more intense. But I think our locker room was or our weight room was bigger at in Mexico State, so it just gets hotter and the humidity.

00:31:02
Speaker 1: Yeah, were you second or where were you on the depth chart when you first got here?

00:31:11
Speaker 2: In my mind or other people's mind, in other.

00:31:13
Speaker 3: People's mind and other people on the whiteboard when you walk into the quarterback meeting room where you see your thing at.

00:31:18
Speaker 2: So I obviously I knew the offensive coordinator and he never put us like one above the other. But I knew I was gonna win the job. Other people thought like maybe the other kid was going to win. But it was like you turn on the tape, it's not in day.

00:31:33
Speaker 3: How quickly did you know? Because like, this kid's getting paid more. You didn't know that at the time, but you figure out he's getting paid more. You guys want to spring practice. Obviously you're confident, but you're seeing this kid throw. Was it very quickly realized?

00:31:45
Speaker 2: Okay? It was like it was like, oh yeah, it's it's beat. But then it was like, okay, I need to renegotiate my contract if I'm going to be playing over this kid. You know what I mean? Yeah, but you can't. Yeah, you can't really do that in the n C.

00:32:00
Speaker 1: How do you balance all that mentally, like not letting your ego take over too much? Like when that stuff is coming.

00:32:05
Speaker 2: Up, Shoot, it's like, if I really want it, then I go to the league. Yeah, I'm gonna get paid more in the league than in college.

00:32:13
Speaker 1: We have a team eighty years caid, he sit on the back. You want to hand him a Mike cad. When did you know it was gonna be he Diego was gonna win the job? Was it as quick as he was realizing it?

00:32:24
Speaker 7: Yeah, it was pretty quick. And as an oldligneman, you get real close to your quarterback. I mean everybody knows and I think it was honestly during summer workouts and stuff, just we had a you know, you're you're holding arms with everybody for team bonding, doing lunges across the field and everyone we're all a new team, we're all trying to figure out who's talking, and Diego gets out in front of everyone's like like everyone shut the fuck up, like I'm talking right now, like you guys, this is what we're gonna do. So then that's when it was like, all right, like this is over before it starts, kind of, but we knew and like the first time I met i Go, he had blonde bone.

00:33:01
Speaker 1: Tips in his hair, and.

00:33:06
Speaker 7: This kid's either going to be insane or we're a little fucked. Yeah, you know, its quick as he knew it.

00:33:13
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure.

00:33:14
Speaker 3: What's the relationship looks like from both of your perspectives of you with this other quarterback who comes in essentially thinks he's gonna start, and then you come in. You're in team meetings or everyone's locked arms doing lunges, you know, like this shit's not good enough or whatever the speeches are you you seeing kind of like little friction or you pretty cool to the other quarterback.

00:33:32
Speaker 2: There's there's like that competitive friction that you have with like everyone that you go into a new room with. But uh, I guess I think he was like like one time. I'll tell you this story. One time I cracked a joke and maybe it was an inappropriate joke and he was loving it when like he was projected to start, you know what I mean. And I cracked the same joke when I was starting, and then he like texted the coaches about and was like hey, like diego, that was an inappropriate joke by him, Like he needs to say sorry. And then like I had to call him and and he's like, bro, that was not cool, this and that, and it was just like all right.

00:34:10
Speaker 3: So there's two phases of that question. One, you recycle jokes.

00:34:14
Speaker 2: Yeah, if they're good.

00:34:15
Speaker 1: Yeah, we recycled joke. No, no, no, I'm around and uh and to like to catch right there.

00:34:23
Speaker 3: You know what my my my mind went to, was you important oy a couple of years ago because you said a joke to him? Yeah, like hey, and then at the Super Bowl you did the same thing. He was like on your asst recycling jokes.

00:34:34
Speaker 1: It was the same day I was. I went over made a joke I forget what it was, but about like a jacket or something. Yeah, and one of the boys was saying about me and they laughed. They've also kind of heard the joke, but when the boys laughed, I'm like, all right, I'm gonna take it to a bigger that was gonna work. Yeah, want to have more people, you know, this joke solid?

00:34:50
Speaker 3: Yeah.

00:34:51
Speaker 2: I recycled the game with the women.

00:34:53
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm some game with the women too. The ship works, like when he's spent in game. Yeah. Like And so then Dave obviously jumps on. It's oh, you're recycling jokes. It's like, that's that's.

00:35:12
Speaker 3: What's what you like, Dave. You haven't said the same words in the same sentence before ever again. But that's basically where I got that. What when you weren't starting what was a joke?

00:35:22
Speaker 5: Uh?

00:35:24
Speaker 3: His uh?

00:35:26
Speaker 2: His girlfriend made something to eat and it was sushi, and I was like, oh, you're having sushi twice tonight, huh and he was he was laughing his ass off. And then I made the joke again. I was like, hey, what are you happing again? Sushi twice? And then that was the same joke, and he was like all up in arms about that.

00:35:46
Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like a quarterback. Oh here, First off, dude, I love how open you are because you don't get a lot of quarters but I don't want you to sit in the team meeting at Vanderbilt the coach and be like, what are we doing?

00:36:00
Speaker 1: He's gone.

00:36:00
Speaker 2: Now he's gone. Now he's gone. Now where's he at? He's at Utah.

00:36:04
Speaker 3: I mean people could look this up where he's he's at the utes, Like people even know where this guy is. That's crazy, that's crazy. That's fucking insane. It's uh started starting spring camp. You're second the depth chart through in the depth chart.

00:36:21
Speaker 2: Uh, there was like no depth chart, like we were rotating between three quarterbacks though open competition competition.

00:36:27
Speaker 3: We're all fann and all of you guys transferring from other schools to Vanderbilt or the transfer there is that kid still there?

00:36:36
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's actually really talented. He's got a strong arm, really good. Yeah. I think if he went to like more of a pro style, like he'd popped more. He's really good.

00:36:45
Speaker 3: So why why do you think? Have you had that conversation with him? Like yeah, he's like, hey man, maybe you go and do this. And what year is he?

00:36:51
Speaker 2: Yeah he's uh he has two more years left. But that Vanderbilt degree is something. Well, yeah that's really smart kid.

00:37:02
Speaker 1: Yeah, sure, going like in into the year this year, were you aware that you were going to get an extra year at first? Like, what are you hearing? You have a you have a legendary year Vanderbilt. You guys exceeded all expectations. You're having a hell of a run. Like are you talking to NFL? Are you thinking NFL? Are you thinking I want to get an extra year? There could be a possibility? Like what was that process like for you at the end of the season, looking at the neck this year that we're in.

00:37:28
Speaker 2: Now, Yeah, well we beat we beat uh, so we're tuned too. Then we beat Bam, and then we beat Kentucky and then like Kentucky game, I got kind of hurt that big motherfucker Dion Walker just sat on me and it was like all right, and then I'm kind of like straggling out the whole year. And so when it was brought up to me that I could play possibly play another year, I was like, oh, yeah, let's do it. So then I just it got filed and had a really good lawyer and everything worked out.

00:38:00
Speaker 1: It wasn't like were you you weren't even considering the potential or maybe looking around for the next level yet.

00:38:06
Speaker 2: No, I was I was asking, like coach Lee, like about agents and things like that and what the you know, scouts are saying and what they wanted to see. But it was just I think, in my favorite to get two years under the SEC under my belt and then no, we win the national Championship and I win the Heisman, then there's no there's no reason why I don't get drafted.

00:38:29
Speaker 1: First round based on the feedback that you heard from the next level, Like what chip on your shoulder do you have? Now? Like what what things were you hearing?

00:38:36
Speaker 2: They said, I need to get uh maybe better as a passer, say in the pocket, don't leave as much, and so I need to work the pocket more.

00:38:46
Speaker 3: Okay, do you agree with that criticism or do you think that well, I.

00:38:51
Speaker 2: Could get better at everything. But I mean we had a lot of a lot of play calls to you know, roll outside the pocket for you know, they got the like Dylan Stewart, off the edges is really.

00:39:05
Speaker 1: Good, James Pearce is off the edge is really good.

00:39:07
Speaker 2: So I think doing little things to make sure those guys get off my back and then just let me make plays that ac like that's where I'm best at making plays.

00:39:18
Speaker 3: Yeah. Improv Yeah, improvisation on the field, yep. When did you realize that you had that that capability to take the ex's and o's of a play. It's drawn up a certain way in a whiteboard, but you can extend plays and figure it all.

00:39:29
Speaker 2: Out little league football. I have some pretty nice tape in little league football. Nasty, Yeah, some nasty tapes. But I think that's when I figured it out. And then just having the confidence that I do and then installing it in like the guys around me, and then you become unstoppable.

00:39:47
Speaker 1: How as a guy who's pissing them on a logo back in New Mexico State and you have, you know, the stories of the ago and all the fun one that you have on the field, shit talking and everything else. How do you feel like you've approached maybe this year, whether it's a little bit differently because you could be going to the professional level and you being a little bit more conscious about everything that you're doing. Do you feel like you've had, you know, a moment to where you've kind of reflected on things and thinking like, hey, the act is awesome, it's a lot of fun, but I also got to kind of put my head down to work a little bit more because it is a bit of an uphill battle at times.

00:40:24
Speaker 2: Right. Yeah, I've actually done a lot of reflecting on how I could get better. One is being in the training room more. I'm always around the facility. Like I get there. I wake up at five every morning, wake my bed, you know, pray to God, and then like I'm in the facility by about six fifteen, and I don't lead to about six. So I'm just doing everything I can possible to stay healthy for the season. Another thing too, was like sometimes when I say I would party, I mean that I would have a good time, you know, laugh with my friends. I don't I rarely drink, be lying if I said I didn't drink, but I rarely drink. And so like those staying up late affecting me for Sunday, which roll over to Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, and then it was just like a trickle effect. Yeah, so like I feel like, uh, Sunday, once I get home after the game, I needed, you know, stretch, get in my little thing after the game on Saturday, and then be ready to go for the next week.

00:41:21
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's gotta be hard to when you're when you're doing things at Vanderbilt that haven't been done in a long time. You're essentially reviving an entire you know, program, and.

00:41:30
Speaker 1: Guys are goal post down.

00:41:33
Speaker 3: That was where I was getting good and go with that, Like you beat Alabama and you take the goal post and you marsh that thing all the way down to the Cumberland River, Like what where were you doing that?

00:41:42
Speaker 5: Are you?

00:41:42
Speaker 3: Are you ral rushing the field? Get in the locker room, like, hey, let's speed up this speech. I gotta go a little bit of fun because that's a long ass way down the Broadway. Yeah it is.

00:41:53
Speaker 2: My My brothers and my family are like really crazy, like crazy in a good way. But like and I'll tell you guys the story of how crazy they are. But like they were like, bro, hurry that ship up, like we got a fucking bounce. We they they literally Sunday the day after they literally opened the bar and ended the bar like until it was closed, and it was just like, bro, these guys are wild, you know what I mean? So like, obviously you want to join them in stuff, but you got responsibilities. So that's what makes it Like, that's what makes it hard. Obviously they're only in town for like a few days and then they go back. Yeah, but I mean we had some really good times this year. For sure.

00:42:32
Speaker 1: How was that night? Kay, you can talk about it too. But the night you guys do beat Alabama and take them down and the city is just absolutely on fire.

00:42:41
Speaker 2: Uh we all went to Broadway.

00:42:43
Speaker 1: Let's pretend we're all retired. Just pretend we're all retired. Sure, yeah, relived the glory day taking down the Crimson Tide.

00:42:53
Speaker 3: Just a team that's won, you know, forty one of those forty three national championship, Like.

00:42:59
Speaker 2: It was a good time.

00:43:00
Speaker 3: You get the twelve yard game. The game is over, games, manor beilt. Fans are on the fields. They du Hey, let's live in reality. Like you guys are playing away games at home, and that's changing because of you guys. Like people are juicy fucking.

00:43:18
Speaker 2: Look at that kid he's getting after right there. I love it, dude, seventeen.

00:43:22
Speaker 3: This kid he's got the same size legs as me. He's getting after it. Bro. But I'm just saying, like, these fans storm the field. You are you are now probably realizing like we've done something for the first time ever.

00:43:34
Speaker 1: Yeah, but this is incredible as Foster. You win just a fucking massive game. The vibes are absolutely psychotic, psychotic.

00:43:41
Speaker 2: I really didn't, I really didn't. It didn't hit me until like a week a week after like like maybe we have to beat Kentucky or something like. It really didn't hit me until then. But that night was it was jumping for sure. I mean we we went all went to barstool. The whole top was rented out for us. You know, we stood up so late that night and then they thought we're gonna lose to Kentucky. Beat them the next week too, but it that's that's when I got hurt. But I feel like God kind of gave me a signal right there. It was like, hey, you can't just go out and party when you have a big wins, like I'm gonna give you more big wins, just you can't part like that. And so that that's like for this year, you know what I mean, that's why he gave me another year. Yeah, so it's get it right this time.

00:44:29
Speaker 1: I was the experience from from your vantage point, because you know, offensive linemen, they're like, we're getting the fuck we're getting after this.

00:44:35
Speaker 7: But yeah, it was good. I don't even know if he knows this, but I lasted an hour and a half at the bar, like it was a quick night for me, and that doesn't happen very often. And so I was getting after it pretty hard, but not like the field rush stuff. Like he was probably the calmest in the huddle, which is surprising. Once he got that first down, it was there was some kind of there was some antics on the field everybody knows about, but uh, we were kind of all the huddle.

00:45:06
Speaker 1: About no buddy, did the shove or kicked the ball, hit the ball?

00:45:08
Speaker 3: We had the ball kid?

00:45:10
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, the push in the face. And I had only played that drive, Like I sat for three and a half hours the whole game and then got in on the on the four minute drive to get the first downs to win the game against the number one ranked team, and I was like, oh shit, like you know, my knees hurt already hitting in the stance. Yeah, and so all the antics whatever, he gets the first down, face pushed in the ground. I kind of ran after it a little bit, but like we got back in the huddle, He's like, all right, right, all right, Like we got to get this snap, We got to get this snap because it's victory, and he was the most calm one. And then the field rush went to the locker room and everyone's like in the locker room like, all right, let's let's get out of here. We got some stuff to handle.

00:45:52
Speaker 3: Yeah, dude, talk to me about the emotion of a field rush, Like as a player, I only had to experience that, I think one time, and that's when we beat Ohio State. And it is like the most electric feeling in the entire world. When all the fans are on the field, they're jumping, they're grabbing you, they're pulling you. You essentially feel like like the biggest star in the world for a moment. Like what was that like for you guys?

00:46:17
Speaker 2: It was nuts. I had all my boys there too. I wasn't trying to lose that football right there. And then uh n I l Now like I my jersey sold for like forty thousand, that jerseys.

00:46:32
Speaker 3: Yeah, why don't you keep the jersey?

00:46:34
Speaker 2: Huh? I should have?

00:46:45
Speaker 7: You know the guy that has it though, right?

00:46:46
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, it's what like it's one of those guys that though and he's good people do.

00:46:51
Speaker 3: He's a good guy, good enough guy to give it back to you.

00:46:55
Speaker 2: Uh, there's one one way to find out.

00:46:58
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, for forty one dollars. Good man?

00:47:05
Speaker 1: What uh? What was for you your best freestyle, most memorable style play for yourself where you kind of went off the went off the whiteboard and made something happen the coaches weren't expecting it. Uh.

00:47:18
Speaker 2: At New Mexico State, we're playing against utub and it's like two minute drill and I call my own play and I do all Berts and I'm thinking IM about to hit this seam up to Eli, but like the safety closed it, so I spin out. I'm rolling left full speed. This kid comes our boy, So if we're going that way, he comes back and then goes back and I do like a forty yard dime on the money over the shoulder and he just he just gets cracked.

00:47:48
Speaker 1: Let's fucking go, dude. What kay for you? What's this man like in the huddle? Any moments that stand out?

00:47:58
Speaker 7: Yeah, So my first play of the Alabama game like stands out to me of all of them. We're on the goal line and we're running one of our our goal line run schemes and it's a two play scheme, so we're either running one player or the other, and we hear it because of the cadence, we know which play we're running. And it was my first play of the game. And he's tired as hell from the you know, the drive before, and so he's like.

00:48:24
Speaker 2: Ready break, and I was like.

00:48:28
Speaker 7: All right, so I kind of just followed the guy I knew I needed to follow, and uh, I think I just down blocked because I didn't know the play. But that's normally like how he is. Is normally really calm, normally really collected, like all right, guys like got to get the first year whatever, prey this quarterback stuff. You know, they got to command the huddle. But that play stands out to me just because he's spitting everywhere, and you know, I had no idea what the play was.

00:48:52
Speaker 2: Got to get the shit out, make some checks when we get to the line.

00:48:55
Speaker 1: Do you have uh, do you have moments that stand down in the huddle?

00:49:00
Speaker 2: We have a we have a funny guy who like talks ship. His name is Chase Mitchell, but he stutters a lot, so he's like that boy, you have fuck with me. But like so that I'd just be laughing and then like, uh, but nah, I'm usually like pure business, trying to get the guys in and out so I like make checks. It's game time. This shit ready to go.

00:49:29
Speaker 1: How much after the year was the portal blowing up for you on potential teams wanting you to come be the quarterback for them at a different school A lot?

00:49:38
Speaker 2: It was like, yeah, it was less reaching out to me. It was like more reaching out to like my brothers and my family and stuff.

00:49:44
Speaker 3: Was there a dollar amount that you heard that was like holy shit?

00:49:49
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I don't know if I'm supposed to share, but like anywhere from like four to four point five.

00:49:56
Speaker 3: To leave and go somewhere to leave? What will conference?

00:50:01
Speaker 2: Sect in conference?

00:50:04
Speaker 1: In conference teams trying to get you.

00:50:08
Speaker 2: You want to play with the best. You don't want to play with the Big ten. You ignore those.

00:50:16
Speaker 1: Class two national titles, your calls, you know that the whole.

00:50:23
Speaker 2: But you got to think about this, dude. The SEC is like nothing like okay, the Big ten. You have like the house state Oregon. It's Michigan, Michigan, Penn State, Michigan, Penn State.

00:50:38
Speaker 3: Yeah you believe after this year in Nebraska, I got you kids.

00:50:43
Speaker 2: Yeah, we will see, but we just got to you got all dogs, So like you really only have four games a year like the SC. It's like week after week after like you're gonna get beat on like the Big Ten. You ain't gonna get beat on with like the per Dude.

00:51:00
Speaker 1: You like that's a bullshit comment, like a week after week like that's that's that's real though. Listen, I'm here to have a I'm here to have a clean podcast, not here to talk too much ship to start it off, I don't want to. I don't want to shoot on any SEC teams.

00:51:18
Speaker 3: But you guys would have your hands full of Illinois.

00:51:22
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Illinois is a good team.

00:51:24
Speaker 1: Yeah they are.

00:51:25
Speaker 3: It's a good ball club. What about us, Yeah.

00:51:27
Speaker 2: They are, buddy us C.

00:51:30
Speaker 1: Yeah, USC is a tough team. I haven't Washington, Washington, Iowa.

00:51:38
Speaker 2: You're gonna you've gotta score seven points it beat Iowa.

00:51:41
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a tough seven.

00:51:45
Speaker 3: Guys. You guys program Iowa resurrected an extinct cornerback, Like that is you want to talk about who can achieve more? I mean, here's there's a cornerback in the NFL that's white right now. I don't know I know a couple of them were thinking.

00:52:01
Speaker 1: About Riley Moss.

00:52:02
Speaker 2: Now Regenia is good, you know, ship, But I'm saying, like you have to like the trenches too, the different the trenches. Let's think about this football are from the SEC except like abdo card, like you'll find one, like you'll have one or.

00:52:23
Speaker 3: Two third overall pick this year.

00:52:25
Speaker 2: Yeah, but like you got if the kid from South Carolina could have left, would have been a first round pick.

00:52:33
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, we saw him at a immediate day is the super Bowl? He he looked a part. Yeah, he looked the part. Who was who was, in your mind? The best defense he played against all year.

00:52:45
Speaker 2: The best defense Texas. Yeah.

00:52:49
Speaker 1: I was at that game. Bummed you guys couldn't make it out.

00:52:52
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, that kid Michael taff Is, he's good. He's like an elite. But you know those white kids who are going to be the right right play, right time, it's that kid always going to be in the right spot.

00:53:07
Speaker 3: Great technique, great technique.

00:53:09
Speaker 2: Yeah, well he'll be perfect, perfect sound perfect.

00:53:12
Speaker 3: I will say this. I thought, man, that Asu Texas game in the playoffs, I thought, as you should have won that game. I know they should have won that game.

00:53:20
Speaker 2: I don't like how people should on Quinn the Ewers us.

00:53:23
Speaker 3: I don't like that either.

00:53:24
Speaker 2: Quinn Hewers is a solid quarterback.

00:53:27
Speaker 1: I don't think anybody was saying that we I don't think we were shopping on Quinn.

00:53:30
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, I'm just saying, like, I think he's just bringing this out of his own back. He's thought about this for a minute. He's like, I got to make sure I say this.

00:53:35
Speaker 1: Yeah.

00:53:35
Speaker 2: No, no, like he went seventh round like he should have. You got to think about Texas before Quinn, you know what I mean, Like they were winning too many games. Then Quinn goes and now they're in the like possibly the championship. If he doesn't get strips sacked right.

00:53:48
Speaker 3: Right against a Big ten football team, here he goes. I'm just dude.

00:53:54
Speaker 1: I mean that's a fact.

00:53:55
Speaker 3: That is the fact. Against a d ND who was drafted in the third round.

00:54:02
Speaker 2: He's good. There's a lot of good players in the Big ten too.

00:54:04
Speaker 3: I don't know, there's some good ball players in this seed. There's no doubt about it. I'm what the main thing is is now that everybody can get paid, we definitely equalized.

00:54:15
Speaker 1: There's a lot more parody in the game now.

00:54:16
Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, it's two and two, so it's equal right now, as.

00:54:20
Speaker 3: We'll find out this year. That's right, Vanderbilt twenty twenty six, right, I guess it would be twenty twenty six National.

00:54:27
Speaker 2: Chains in Miami.

00:54:28
Speaker 1: What are your Obviously there's a lot of discussion around the College Fable Playoff in the format, like what would you what would be your critiques for the College Fable Playoff? You want to see it go to sixteen.

00:54:36
Speaker 2: I think that the as he's seeing, the Big ten should obviously get the four bids regardless, and then they could do whatever they want from there.

00:54:44
Speaker 1: And you like, you like how they structured it as like, you know, if you win your conference, you don't automatically get a by They're kind of just they're kind of seeded it true now right?

00:54:52
Speaker 2: Yes? Yeah? I like that.

00:54:54
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the bags end needs to change. Is right after conference championships, you go right in two the next week has the first round. We don't need this three weeks or whatever it is, Like, let's have all of December and let's knock this shit out.

00:55:08
Speaker 1: Is this their schedule right here? Sure? How do you feel about your guys' schedule this year?

00:55:13
Speaker 2: You got Great South.

00:55:14
Speaker 1: Carolina, Alabama at South Carolina at Alabama, Virginia.

00:55:19
Speaker 2: Got Charleston Southern, We got Virginia Tech, South Carolina, Georgia State, Utah State, every game any given Sunday, Editing Giving Saturday.

00:55:27
Speaker 1: Really, I mean, what happened in Georgia State. How you guys put on a season like that last year and you have a you know the laughs that you guys did, and shit happens.

00:55:40
Speaker 2: They came out and they punched us first, and then we had to lead like seventeen seconds up to go and do a bomb touchdown. I guess sixty yard bomb. We have about like three.

00:55:56
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:55:57
Speaker 3: When you look at the schedule, like you said, you know, every single week you're going out at blah blah blah. You gotta play at Alabama, at Tennessee, at Texas, at South Carolina, at South Carolina, sandstorm, Sandstorm. Playing that place gets rowdy, sleeper place to play, sleeper place. How many of these games are you coming out? Twelve games that I.

00:56:23
Speaker 1: Was thinking about asking, but since he said National Championship earlier, I'm like he's gonna say.

00:56:27
Speaker 3: Twelve and oh yeah, who do you okay, who do you think is which one of these games is like circle, do you like this is?

00:56:32
Speaker 2: I gotta make sure I don't want to give the pony no field. What do they see that?

00:56:37
Speaker 3: I think at this point we've already gotten past that.

00:56:40
Speaker 1: I think every school knows they need to have their cameras on at all time. Yeah, if Diego is in town the day before game game three, Game three, oh doude do we say it? I don't even know we can say.

00:56:54
Speaker 3: I mean, people can go look South Carolina, this is a podcast, it'll be out to the world.

00:56:59
Speaker 1: They'll be tough year man. Yeah, he got a squad.

00:57:01
Speaker 3: I mean, after what you did to Alabama too, Like, you better keep your head in a swivel down in Tuscaloosa. I don't know if you like there's a chance you might not make it to the game. The fans go crazy out there.

00:57:10
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I got my brothers with me. We're good.

00:57:13
Speaker 1: Do you feel like you feel like you guys have more respect in college football right now? Like, do you feel like there's a little bit more pressure that's kind of come with this year?

00:57:22
Speaker 5: Uh?

00:57:24
Speaker 2: Nah, Like it's just as long as we get better in our like detail, we'll be fine. Like we're really just worried about us right now, Like we don't really care about what other people say or anything like that. Like everyone just focused internally.

00:57:36
Speaker 1: Yeah, people could be San Diego. One one hit wonder, one good year might be all he has. Right, we're gonna put him in his place this year.

00:57:45
Speaker 3: There's enough film on him. We see what he does.

00:57:46
Speaker 1: We know tendency to shut him down.

00:57:49
Speaker 3: Right, gets a little loose with the ball and he rolls out to the left.

00:57:51
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's probably gonna try to stay in the pocket a little bit more this year because he's been here in the fluff At the next.

00:57:56
Speaker 3: Time, scout say you have to sit in the pocket, don't worry. We'll condense the pocket contained rush him.

00:58:01
Speaker 1: This one. Games at the middle from Juco and New Mexico State, right.

00:58:05
Speaker 3: Boys, the kids from New Mexico. Well, you can count your hand how many guys have come out of there. Yeah, that's what they're saying in team meeting rooms right now that you circled, and it's it's a picture of frosted tips too, it's not it's Diego.

00:58:17
Speaker 1: Yeah, how many things, guys? How many teams are in the sec and right now it looks like your guys's power rankings in the SEC. You're you're predicted at thirteenth.

00:58:25
Speaker 2: It's probably some fat guy who sits on a computer all day.

00:58:30
Speaker 1: Damn. Josh Paid is in good shape.

00:58:34
Speaker 3: Josh Paid is, He's got the shoulders in the chest on him.

00:58:39
Speaker 1: So what do you think about when you see stuff like that? Like, I know it's just noise, but when you're at home and you're kind of going through some of this.

00:58:44
Speaker 2: Ship, I really don't. I've never seen this sight before.

00:58:48
Speaker 1: What is this seven?

00:58:52
Speaker 7: Now?

00:58:52
Speaker 2: It's two for seven? We used to have, Uh, our guy Barton Simmons used works for two percents, but like I don't mistake them for it because like real players fuck up too. So okay, let'll just find out after Do you.

00:59:06
Speaker 3: Talk to me about the sea on your chest?

00:59:09
Speaker 2: The sea?

00:59:09
Speaker 3: The sea captain going from the Mexico State transferter Vanderbilt. You're earning these guys trusts. What was that process like for you?

00:59:18
Speaker 2: It was actually really dope, Like, uh, you know, taking out the alignment to eat and stuff is, uh, is really cool. And then you like just knowing the guys, like everyone comes out from like a unique background and you find out like things about these guys, like you know some of them well now like a lot of us, uh not us. I don't have a kid, but a lot of them have kids and stuff, and you gotta meet their kids and bring them around and this, like it's just really cool to like earn their trust.

00:59:48
Speaker 1: Where are we taking them? Could? Could he do better? Could he do better? On how you treat you?

00:59:53
Speaker 3: Guys?

00:59:54
Speaker 2: Have you heard a mile? Yes, we went to see good a mile. We went to see you go to mile twice and then we were supposed to edit go to Eddie V's this past weekend, but not a lot of the guys could go.

01:00:08
Speaker 1: So you haven't gotten these boys a little room. It came prime or up up at Bourbon Steak. I'm trying to work for.

01:00:14
Speaker 2: You right now. Can I told you other schools were offering me a four million, not Vandy? You said, what other schools are offering me four million? Not bandy? Dude?

01:00:23
Speaker 1: Hey legit? So we ever flirting with the idea leaving Vanderbilt?

01:00:28
Speaker 2: No, I never flirted with it.

01:00:30
Speaker 1: Maybe for a moment, one.

01:00:32
Speaker 3: Moment you saw the number.

01:00:34
Speaker 2: I mean the number. The number is great, like the numbers are great, but like winning is is more important to me than anything, and we get the squad to go do it.

01:00:43
Speaker 1: When you're breaking it down with your agent or whoever your representation is, or you're talking with the coaches, how uncomfortable does it get at times? Like you you might hear the rumors are four million, and it's like, you know, we're all in the game of business a little bit more now, and it's like, you want to leverage the number? How much should I try and leverage the number and get to a spot that I feel comfortable? I don't want to piss anybody off? Like how is that going for you? Mentally? When you are in that process of potentially, you know, them feeling like you could potentially leave.

01:01:10
Speaker 2: Right it was? It was difficult for sure, because like you got coach Kill and coach Beck like relying on you to come back, and then but it's like all the money game. And then like you got other schools offering you four million and they don't want to pay you four million, but you're like all right, but like you took a chance on me, so like I understand that, and then freaky OUs and say something too like, uh, they they told me the things that I wanted to hear of how they're gonna build the offense. You know what receivers are gonna go get. And they were telling me like, we could pay we could pay you that, but we're not gonna have enough money to go get these guys to go throw the ball around. And it just made sense to me, Like, man, I value winning over anything else. So how perfect?

01:02:00
Speaker 1: How well did they do going and getting some of these pieces that they were talking to you about?

01:02:04
Speaker 2: Really good? Yeah, I guess like playing with a new toy every day, you just throw the ball as far as you can't you have some fast little black kid to just fucking catch it.

01:02:15
Speaker 1: Washington Post is gonna salivate over this.

01:02:18
Speaker 3: Yeah, Washington Post, New York Times. I got him again.

01:02:21
Speaker 1: Yeah.

01:02:22
Speaker 3: Uh, dude, Jerry Kill, you talked about him being like a father figure to you. What about Jerry Kill? Was like it helps you guys connect so much, And do you have like a Jerry Kill store that you're like, this dude's the fucking man. Kate was telling me. He offered me he was in Nevada when I was high school. No, No, that was coach k coach Yeah, okay, okay, okay, okay.

01:02:41
Speaker 2: This guy's this guy's a nut job. Like he's just one of us, just the older version, you know what I mean. He don't care what anyone thinks about him. He don't care about anything. I would say New Mexico State when he was the head coach, like he had all the power in the world. Like I remember, this is this story exact. We were in like a like a team meeting, and after that it was like the first day of fall camp. We're getting done team meeting. We go out there and you know, we get done practicing. This kid has a full body cramp and he's like, where's the fucking trainer at And the trainer, uh didn't have ivs. They couldn't give ivs for some reason in Mexico State. He fired the trainer, the equipment staff, and uh, like one of the board of directors at New Mexico State that day. And then like he was like having to do he hired basically the coaches to like serve out equipment, hired uh people just to like give out water and stuff. So he fired someone like on the spot that day, first.

01:03:44
Speaker 3: Day because he was catching a full body cramp. But there's nowhere to say.

01:03:47
Speaker 2: It, and there was no no one to give him an IV man at least.

01:03:50
Speaker 1: Have some pickle juice on you or something, you know, But he's just anytime I hear body cramp, I just think of the story of, Uh, there's a guy in the locker room who just as a joke kept a box of condoms in the locker, and somebody's like, hey, why do you keep a box of condoms in the locker And he just looked over and he goes, You never know when somebody's gonna catch a full body cramp and be spas on the locker room floor.

01:04:15
Speaker 2: What the fuck?

01:04:18
Speaker 1: Just out of the glimpse inside of the locker room, folks.

01:04:20
Speaker 3: That is a wild story. Wild.

01:04:23
Speaker 1: The full body crams are just awful when you reflect on just your entire journey, like again, underdog story, Juco route no offers, small schools, go to Vanderbilt, all of this stuff you were talking about wrestling earlier, but overall, like a general like a general thought, when you pull yourself out, what do you feel like separate you mentally in the details when you look back, whether it's playing through injuries or examples you see from other guys, like what things do you feel like have separated you mentally to get in the spot that.

01:04:54
Speaker 2: You're in now when I when I turn on the tape, and I want people to know that I'm the you know, the best person ever touched like the blade of grass, Like I'm going to be the best no matter what. When you turn on the table, it's like, Okay, this kid right here is the best player on the football team right here, both sides of the ball. And so that's that's what I want. Is just not even be like compared. I want to be good on it and it's like one of the greats. Like I feel like I have that mama mentality of three workouts a day or else you like cheated yourself.

01:05:27
Speaker 1: When you look back and think if times were extremely hard and you possibly thought I'm never quitting, but where you doubted yourself and everything else, Like is there a moment or a phase of life that kind of stands out that you fall through that you look back on You're like, I'm fucking happy I pushed through that moment.

01:05:43
Speaker 2: Yeah, Juco was hard for sure, Juco COVID. You know there's only two people allowed in a dorm. Probably this big, maybe even smaller if you cut this down and you know it's you and your guy and it's just the struggle, like you weren't able to leave, no one could see you. And then those those times were tough. You're winging at five am. But then like you think about it, like you're you're with your brothers through the grind, so it's like, cool.

01:06:11
Speaker 1: Who are you leaning on in like those times like are you somebody who like you know, you're scrolling and consuming videos, you're reading something. Is it your mom? Is it your staff when you're kind of having those moments of hey, I need to feel like I needed some inspiration or motivation.

01:06:26
Speaker 2: Honest truth. Uh my ex girlfriend was like, shit, she don't want me bet I'm gonna go harder. And it was just like I'm super serious like in juco and still like to this day, Like my boy uh, my boys would tell you, like it was like once I got under that bar, it was like it was beef. You know, obviously not with my girlfriend, but like like it was like fuck, like shit, she didn't want you, like take that shit personal. But that's one of the reason why I go so to I.

01:07:00
Speaker 3: Feel like the mentality of the athlete, but it's taking whatever happens in your life that didn't necessarily go your way. Big ways are little ways. But it's like, all right, at that to the tank.

01:07:12
Speaker 1: That's true.

01:07:13
Speaker 2: That's how I look at it too.

01:07:14
Speaker 1: I feel like he's got the most wrestling brain I've ever seen.

01:07:18
Speaker 3: A football player.

01:07:19
Speaker 1: Yeah, a football player.

01:07:21
Speaker 3: If you don't want me put a forty five.

01:07:24
Speaker 2: She said what we were laughing about.

01:07:27
Speaker 1: You know how those like you know how wrestlers just get down and just go hard their house parties where they're in their shirts off, they got the bags on. They might you know, there's a few guys got their girlfriends in there and they're just you know, making a beer pong shot.

01:07:38
Speaker 5: Just.

01:07:40
Speaker 2: Just over for no reason.

01:07:43
Speaker 3: She's got her next.

01:07:43
Speaker 2: After everything they do, they go hard, Yeah.

01:07:46
Speaker 1: Dashing up your boys and you start getting in an over all of a sudden, your hips are back.

01:07:50
Speaker 2: Is out to see.

01:07:53
Speaker 3: Just before they think that takes place. Yeah, still got it. I assue, how do you think he's fair in wrestling right now?

01:08:00
Speaker 2: The way a man? Probably not, But I would like go down like one seventy fours I then do pretty good.

01:08:05
Speaker 3: Yeah.

01:08:05
Speaker 1: Yeah, you think you'd have been a good wrestler in college yeah, but I didn't because you were were used to you were a state champ, right.

01:08:12
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was state champ my senior year. Okay, yeah, but I didn't love it. Yeah, he knows some of these shots. I like you Arizona. Arizona, everyone's like right next to New Mexico.

01:08:24
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's well, I mean we can the population is like more than double, and we also have like a better sports state Baseball football, that's just fat. I mean New Mexico.

01:08:39
Speaker 2: We might be better at baseball.

01:08:41
Speaker 1: I don't know.

01:08:41
Speaker 3: Bro, like Arizona cats play ball out there. That's a year round, I mean, just like New Mexico, but like cats come out of there. Even hockey, now we got hockey players.

01:08:50
Speaker 2: What about wrestling? I think we might be better at I think baseball, soccer.

01:08:54
Speaker 3: I'm not very uh I could see soccer. I'm not I'm not up to date on like wrestling. My wrestling education comes through Will Compton. Like I see that he talks about Cody and I just I've wrestled all three times. I've lost every time.

01:09:11
Speaker 1: We'll be in there watching March mad It will be in there watching March Madness, and I'll have the the of the wrest the years.

01:09:19
Speaker 2: Yeah, this year, So who's your favorite wrestler?

01:09:22
Speaker 1: Oh man? I mean honestly, I just root for the boys from Nebraska, Okay, Like I knew a lot more about it when when when when my brother was doing it, Like when we were in college together, Like Jordan Burrows was from Nebraska and he was like when Cody came in as a freshman. They were the same weight, so they were they were both wrestling partners and everything else. Like James Green came a little bit after Cody. So that generation of wrestling is when I knew it the most. I don't know it as well anymore. I just enjoy every year when the conference championships come on, you know when they're when the National Championships are going on. The n C double as. My dad took me to one, me and my brother to one back when we were young, when it was in Saint Louis and we got to see brock lesnar senior year and you're seeing him do his little jump, his jumps back and forth before he goes out and beats the boy from it was he was at Minnesota. The kid, the dude from Iowa beats him four to two in the finals in the place just he roughs.

01:10:16
Speaker 2: Did you see Gable Stevenson loss?

01:10:18
Speaker 1: Yes, bro insane, that's sick, insane, But like you know, and it's like the head coaches of these of these teams now got like Kyle Sanderson of course, Mark Manning. I've always been a massive fan of him, tight end with him. And you see like David Taylor getting in the circle. Just seeing guys from again like that generation kind of whether they're on the staff now. But as far as individuals, I don't know as much about him anymore. I more just support like I support the university, like Nebraska the hell of a year this year, even though who was at Penn State's like miles ahead of everybody. So everybody always kind of competes for that second that second spot, whether it's Iowa, Oklahoma State. So I just kind of enjoy I just enjoy watching wrestling.

01:11:00
Speaker 5: NA.

01:11:01
Speaker 2: That's super dope.

01:11:02
Speaker 1: Yeah, because you got a couple you were just talking about one of your boys.

01:11:05
Speaker 2: That's yeah, real woods. He's about to go to the final X he wins this tournament, and that's this weekend.

01:11:10
Speaker 1: If everybody listening, We're recording on Thursday, the twelfth, So when this comes out, it'll be on Tuesday, so the match will have already happened. But your boys, he's going to compete this weekend Real Woods. Yeah, at Final X in New Jersey, and if he wins, he's gonna be on the Olympic Olympic team.

01:11:27
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's sick man, So rooting for him. I hope he wins. He's gonna win. He's gonna win.

01:11:34
Speaker 3: Well, who's your fvorite wrestler?

01:11:35
Speaker 1: I was telling him how I don't really as far as like individuals now, I'm not as privy to everybody who wrestles now. I'm more just like follow a lot of guys back from the generation that I was kind of just around how their coaches now, and I more so just support the Huskers and you're always knowing about Penn State and who the good teams are.

01:11:52
Speaker 2: What about UFC favorite UFC fighter?

01:11:57
Speaker 1: I mean our boy, we'll buy some of their boy. Mike Chandler missed the O'Connor McGregor. We just watched Sean O'Malley and Morob over the weekend and Morob is a psychopath.

01:12:07
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's gonna be a cat. That's a champion for a long, long time man.

01:12:12
Speaker 1: Else do you have?

01:12:13
Speaker 3: Who is the cat that fought week John Jones?

01:12:16
Speaker 5: I know?

01:12:16
Speaker 1: But John Jones is so up in the air. Is he gonna Is he gonna come back two three years off?

01:12:22
Speaker 3: Every time he fights like crazy though, like bro he is. I mean, it's been said by Dan He's the goat. He's a goat.

01:12:30
Speaker 1: I'm sick that d C. Daniel Cormier never got his like a legit rematch shot against him.

01:12:36
Speaker 2: Daniel Cormier was going to beat John.

01:12:39
Speaker 3: Maybe not, maybe not, but you would like to see like a little bow tie put on that have it. I'll be done.

01:12:45
Speaker 1: But who is the PD thing came out when the spect d H D?

01:12:53
Speaker 3: John? John's the goat?

01:12:54
Speaker 2: John is John?

01:12:55
Speaker 3: Yeah.

01:12:56
Speaker 1: John Jones is awesome, but you just never know when he's gonna get in the octagon again.

01:12:59
Speaker 2: I remember when COVID was happening in New Mexico and I went back to Albuquerque and there was like riots going downtown, people breaking glass doors, getting into jewelry stores. John Jones went downtown, whooped a few fucker's ass and put it into all that ship.

01:13:17
Speaker 3: That's insane.

01:13:17
Speaker 2: It was crazy.

01:13:18
Speaker 1: Who's your outside of John Jones. Who's your favorite fighter?

01:13:22
Speaker 4: Oh?

01:13:25
Speaker 2: I like Amanda Nunia Is I know she's coming back.

01:13:29
Speaker 3: Yeah, just find that girl that show?

01:13:32
Speaker 1: Is it Kayla Harris?

01:13:34
Speaker 3: I think so that sound that sounds about right. But she put on a performance this last weekend, like she was very impressive. It'll be interesting to see a man in noonst taking that much time off. Essentially gets inducted the Hall of Fame last International Fight Week and then says so I'm gonna come back for one more. But that Kaylea, if that is her name, I don't want to suck it up. Her quote of being like I got the belt you at the Legacy, it's put it on the table. Yeah, damn, that's a bar. Yeah, that's a bar realized. I mean you've been tow UFC. I saw you a Madison Square regarden. Like it's electric, dude, it's just being a part of it. Being around it is awesome.

01:14:05
Speaker 2: Well, how does it feel for you guys? You guys are like with like Trump and stuff, like they set us to the like, uh, where all the fighters were?

01:14:12
Speaker 1: You guys were like Trump And it feels insane, like they'll not be sitting there and we just look over like what the fuck.

01:14:19
Speaker 3: There's definitely a level of imposter syndrome, like we we shouldn't be said this. Yeah, it really just goes down to, like the relationship with Dana, and you get around these people, you don't have like an asshole like you just try to be as respectful as possible, but like the people you get to sit next to in these fights and essentially network and talk to and be around like it's you're seeing extremely powerful people come under one roof.

01:14:40
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you're just like, uh, enjoying the moment of being that close to the fucking the fucking octagon.

01:14:47
Speaker 7: Yeah.

01:14:47
Speaker 1: Yeah, like the the you know, you hear the punches, you feel the punches, you just feel the entire environment. When the lights go off and it's just a spotlight on the octagon. You hear the walk and you feel walking around the cage. It's like you feel the breathing, you see the corners going on when they give it their corners. It's uh, it's sick man.

01:15:08
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what a really cool uh situation to be in is the fights at the Apex. Because the Apex are these up and coming fighters that are right next to the UFC facility, but it's like quiet. You can hear the punches landing. You can actually hear people talking when you when the fights are between rounds, you can put a headset on and listen to what the coaches are saying to the fighter. Yeah, what the corners are talking about. Like it's a very cool, intimate setting. It's awesome.

01:15:34
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, And it's like we're all fans of Joe Rogan the podcast, but Joe Rogan the UFC commentator going out there to interview. You've seen the referees that you recognize because they're at every fight, Bruce Buffer doing his announcements and intros. It's just it is insane being that close.

01:15:49
Speaker 3: To And the more you're around it too, like the more like people are recognizing you, like the Bruce Buffer is, the Rogans and types of things where it's like, yeah, we're all kind of like in one way or another part of this little community now and it's just all.

01:16:00
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you'll you like watch Bruce Buffer. I'll be watching before fight since kind of just like looking over and seeing like what he does, and you just see how he's getting like hyped up and stretch has got got like his little note cards that you see him like refer to and look at, but you just see him locking in like he's about to actually fight.

01:16:17
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's cool.

01:16:20
Speaker 3: It is awesome, dude, just to be a part of all that. I mean, this last fight, we were in Saint Louis at doing Anazra Bush Foreman or game. Yeah, yeah, the Cardinal game. And then we get on a plane. Yeah we can talk about that in a second. We had on Dana's plane with him and fly to Newark, and it's just like you're sitting on this plane with his group of group of people, are group of people, and it's just like this is this is fucking awesome?

01:16:45
Speaker 2: Is that the life?

01:16:46
Speaker 1: It's this.

01:16:48
Speaker 3: There's Yeah, Dana is one of those cats too where I mean, he's not a bad thing you can say about if you actually know Dana person I've heard you would never say one bad thing about how giving he is. Like he'll into a room. I say this all the time, but if whoever he knows the most, he'll talk to the last, Like he walked in this room right now, he'd go up to everybody first before sitting down talking to me. Will and even Jack, like Jack's been around him over a dozen times now, and it's like he makes you feel like you are all great for us.

01:17:16
Speaker 1: You're like, you'll have these moments, will be going on and say, like you're on the plane or whatever it is, or in any of these rooms and you just might look over and you make out of contact with Jack or something. You're just like, what the fuck is going on?

01:17:27
Speaker 3: Because we decided to start a podcast. Yeah, like in the back of some bullshit. Yeah, it's just it's crazy. It always gives you a reason to have gratitude and just reflect and how awesome this shit is. It's awesome, man, it is cool.

01:17:41
Speaker 1: Throughout the convo, boys, anything pop up that you want to go back to with Diego.

01:17:47
Speaker 6: One thing I wanted to ask is you'll have some new tools, some new weapons this year. Who's somebody that's unknown right now that you think is gonna make a big name for themselves?

01:17:58
Speaker 1: Good questions.

01:18:00
Speaker 2: We got this new running back from New Mexico State. MK, where's number twenty two? He's like that, you guys will see it Saturday.

01:18:11
Speaker 1: So MK, you played with that New Mexico.

01:18:13
Speaker 2: I played with it when he was a fresh last year. He was a freshman, and then his real names of Kylin Young. But he's a freshman in New Mexico State and everyone knew like that kid is he's different. Yeah, and then he got his chance. He had he had his kid, and then so he took a year off last year and then he came this year and he took it.

01:18:32
Speaker 1: Didn't play last year.

01:18:33
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he didn't play last year.

01:18:34
Speaker 3: Oh no, ship, Yeah to have a kid, Jack, I see you, I got a mic.

01:18:39
Speaker 5: I'm not I'm I'm a Tennessee fan. We're not. I'm not gonna take it there. You seem like a good dude. I actually wanna give you something. I have something in my car, so I'm gonna hop up the bus and grab it. And it literally might be like, what the fuck is this? And it's not like a gag gift. I'm gonna go grab it, so pause, But it's actually I think it's kind of cool, Like it's actually so just give me some all right.

01:19:02
Speaker 3: While Jack's grabbing his non gag gift that everyone thinks it's gonna everyone's gonna think it's kind of cool. You got one.

01:19:07
Speaker 1: I kind of want to ask since Jack's off the bus. Yeah, you guys feel like we want Vandy to be the States the state squad. Yeah, but you're an intern. You can't you know, don't speak less spoken Tennessee.

01:19:21
Speaker 2: Van is gonna run Tennessee after this year, Like this is gonna be the new staple of like college foot what's gonna happen here at Vanderbilt?

01:19:29
Speaker 1: Do any of you and the boys ever like talk about that, Like we gotta be the fucking state school. Well, we're in Nashville, Tennessee, like if we're in the music city, Like we need to be the brand of Tennessee.

01:19:39
Speaker 2: Everyone wants to come to Tennessee because of Nashville, So they want to come to Nashville. So Vanderbilt and then when we have like the most money in nil like why not come here? So like we literally just have to win this year and throughout the rest of the year take care of itself.

01:19:55
Speaker 1: You think Vandy will have the most money in the game or.

01:19:58
Speaker 2: I think we'll be up there. Yeah, but like Snashville, there's a.

01:20:02
Speaker 1: Lot of big hitters around here. Yeah, you need a team to believe in.

01:20:05
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's all they need.

01:20:12
Speaker 5: Yeah.

01:20:12
Speaker 1: Yeah, what's up Jack?

01:20:15
Speaker 2: Hey, what was up with your pitch?

01:20:18
Speaker 3: Yeah? How about that?

01:20:18
Speaker 5: Huh?

01:20:20
Speaker 2: Was that even a pitch?

01:20:21
Speaker 3: No, I mean counts one oh? Right, counts one oh. I've been out every single day after this podcast. You're not gonna go toss the ball around a little bit.

01:20:33
Speaker 2: I don't know. I might get like concussed or something. What do you mean, flying all over?

01:20:37
Speaker 3: Flying all over? But you got a glove and you're an athlete. I know what's about New Mexico.

01:20:42
Speaker 2: If it hits like the roof and then falls down.

01:20:45
Speaker 1: Hits him on the head, can guess.

01:20:46
Speaker 3: If it hits you on the head and you can cuss after that, then you're not who you thought you were.

01:20:50
Speaker 2: Okay, that's fair to say.

01:20:52
Speaker 1: But I'll tell you, hey, you get some legal advice because you can probably well, don't do that because then it's on bust.

01:20:57
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, no, I'm not doing that.

01:21:00
Speaker 1: I was.

01:21:01
Speaker 5: I was at a camp out and we were using newspaper to start fires, and all of a sudden, I see this this paper. I wish it'd have been a Tennessee player because I think this would be something that's super cool to get framed. I was gonna give it to my friend's dad, who's a Anty fan. But since you are the person in this I think it's cool. You literally can throw it away. But I thought it was kind of dope. But it's like positive powers through all and like.

01:21:20
Speaker 2: Just that is fucking hard.

01:21:22
Speaker 3: So if you keep that, that is.

01:21:26
Speaker 2: I think. I think it's better coming from a Tennesseean.

01:21:29
Speaker 3: So look, this is We're still gonna have the rivalry.

01:21:32
Speaker 7: But I hope the best for you and hope you have a successful career.

01:21:34
Speaker 2: So I appreciate that. I think.

01:21:38
Speaker 3: One that's big.

01:21:39
Speaker 2: That's big of you.

01:21:41
Speaker 3: Which camera show this camera here?

01:21:48
Speaker 1: That is badass. It's bigger than the game, bigger than the game, one hundred.

01:21:59
Speaker 3: Corrupt. I like question, yeah, Diego, as you know, bud light is absolutely incredible and anyone would do anything for a bud Light. But what's one thing Diego Pavia would do anything for it? Can't say family.

01:22:15
Speaker 2: I'd bite an ear off to win the national championship.

01:22:19
Speaker 1: Okay, hell yeah.

01:22:21
Speaker 3: You would, Mike Tyson. Somebody does it matter the ear? No, anybody's ear. You'd bite myne ear off.

01:22:28
Speaker 1: Would you let somebody bite your ear off for a would you.

01:22:31
Speaker 3: Let somebody cut your piece off for a national title?

01:22:34
Speaker 2: Yes?

01:22:36
Speaker 1: Just a ken doll?

01:22:37
Speaker 2: Just there's surgery now, that you can work with. Yeah, then Naddy's gonna be mine though.

01:22:46
Speaker 1: Yeah, he came, he came into this question.

01:22:49
Speaker 3: He understood this podcast.

01:22:51
Speaker 1: He understood. Yeah, he understood. And we expect Josh Pate to be talking about this.

01:22:56
Speaker 3: Yeah.

01:22:56
Speaker 2: Yeah, who's Josh Pate?

01:22:58
Speaker 1: Oh my, what are you doing? Almost the brightest minded in college football. Actually he's the future commissioner of college football.

01:23:09
Speaker 2: Oh shit, he's.

01:23:11
Speaker 1: Got Josh pad he's got a show.

01:23:13
Speaker 2: Oh I've seen this guy.

01:23:15
Speaker 1: Know.

01:23:15
Speaker 2: His name is Josh Pate.

01:23:16
Speaker 1: Very put together, ripped, well spoken. Definitely, wear's true classic bright mind. He loves you.

01:23:24
Speaker 2: He gave us the rank on two fourth seven at thirteen.

01:23:26
Speaker 1: No, that was a joke. I was just throwing that out there. He didn't actually write that one. I don't know where he has you.

01:23:31
Speaker 2: That's in Wikipedia shit right there.

01:23:33
Speaker 1: Well, twenty four seven did write that article. I just he doesn't work for twenty four to seven. Oh okay, he's got his own lane, he's got his own thing going.

01:23:39
Speaker 2: Hey my bad, Josh pap.

01:23:42
Speaker 3: Let's give a right a fas for Digo Papa.

01:23:47
Speaker 1: Hey, I have one more question. Throughout this last year, the run that you did have. What was like you know, being a being a fan of the sport growing up and everything else, what was like the coolest thing you got to do? But there's going somebody show or I'm like, man, this is fucking this is.

01:24:02
Speaker 2: The best thing is hanging out with theo Von. That guy's a fucking nut job. He's hilarious.

01:24:07
Speaker 1: Where did you get to hang with him?

01:24:08
Speaker 2: So after the bandwa game.

01:24:12
Speaker 3: That night?

01:24:13
Speaker 2: No, no, no, not that night, but like a few like a week after or something, we went and I took a few of the boys and we went and just got some ice cream and that guy's yeahs on the yea choc, the fudg brownie guy. But anyway, like I was like, bro, he was like the coolest person, like he had like he was my best friend for like forty years, you know what I mean.

01:24:39
Speaker 1: And so.

01:24:41
Speaker 2: But that that's really cool that I get to hang out with that guy.

01:24:44
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a monster. Yeah did you go to one of his shows or something you just saw him out about?

01:24:48
Speaker 5: No?

01:24:48
Speaker 2: I haven't got the chance to. Yeah, but like I get to see a show every day, like he's every time I hang out with him. It's like fucking holy shit, this guy is naturally funny, like he belongs to do comedy.

01:25:00
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, he is a He's hilarious, especially like in person, hanging around just the way his brain operates and thinks on his feet and everything else. He just comes up with the craziest ship.

01:25:09
Speaker 2: I think. I think we're like I was gonna say good together, but like that sounds fucking gay, but like hang out, hang out because like he just says whatever is on his mind, and then I say, whatever's on my mind, you know what I mean. It's just it's just like fucking nut jobs at it. Yeah, it gives me a great couple, Taylor.

01:25:29
Speaker 3: Right, think about taxes, right, think about taxes? Yeah, I could say money joint household income.

01:25:37
Speaker 2: What is wrong with you too? You guys got going on as if.

01:25:42
Speaker 1: You think about it, right, Yeah, just trying to build on his story.

01:25:45
Speaker 3: It's a business decision. Yeah, let's pronounce your juck, Larry, you go what you have?

01:25:50
Speaker 1: You hooked him up with the Pavia jersey Yet.

01:25:53
Speaker 2: I was actually, uh so what happened with the Pavia jerseys is like, uh yeah, they all sold and then like they stopped making him after the season, So I can't even buy any right now.

01:26:04
Speaker 1: You can't even get your own jerseys.

01:26:05
Speaker 2: I can't get out on jersey right now, but we need them for the shop. Yeah, so listen to this.

01:26:09
Speaker 3: When you guys beat Alabama again, your words, our wurds you bring put in the shop, we'll frame it.

01:26:18
Speaker 2: You got my word game?

01:26:22
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what we just said, right whoa? I mean you sound like you're okay with just letting whoever?

01:26:28
Speaker 2: Whoa? Did you not hear the price tag?

01:26:29
Speaker 1: I'll take that. Yeah.

01:26:34
Speaker 5: But before it's all said and done, I gotta give a shout to my boy, Luke Passen, a huge, vanniable fan. When you guys beat Alabama, they always take like a boy's golf trip, and he got he does. He's not a big part of your drinker. He actually just had a kid three weeks ago, So shout out to Joey his new daughter. But he made a drunken bet saying that if Bama loses, he would buy all of his boys Diego Pavia jerseys. He gets blacked out, wakes up the next morning, and Bama loss, and so he had and his buddies while he's passed out, literally tapped in. He has credit card connected and bought thirteen hundred dollars worth of jerseys.

01:27:07
Speaker 3: And they all sent them.

01:27:09
Speaker 5: And then three of the guys, though, are big dudes, and they only got excel. So three of the dudes, they don't even fit the jerseys. So maybe I can sneak one of those jerseys for us.

01:27:18
Speaker 2: I'll tap in.

01:27:19
Speaker 3: But I had to shout my boy, yeah, I like that. Thirteen hundred, which is the first Czech diego Pavi got in is n al deal for New Mexico state.

01:27:28
Speaker 2: Full circle fourteen hundred. But yeah, taxes, Yeah, appreciate your Hey, taxes are an mfor.

01:27:35
Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt. Text to get rid of federal from text right graph cool graph, let's get rid of it.

01:27:46
Speaker 1: Doesn't want to Texas, we can all get behind that. Appreciate everybody for tuning in. Big hugs, shinny kisses. I hope you enjoyed this episode. See you next time.

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