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<v Speaker 1>Hey, everybody, Welcome to Game Mess Mornings, presented by Almost
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<v Speaker 1>your host from giant bomb dot com. Thank you for
<v Speaker 1>tuning in. In this episode, we're gonna be talking about
<v Speaker 1>achievements on switch to and is Silent Hilf going to
<v Speaker 1>be a real good video game? We'll find out it's
<v Speaker 1>gonna be a good one because we have Jason Fonelli
<v Speaker 1>on the show. Jason, how are you doing?
<v Speaker 2>I'm doing pretty good, man. I cannot lie things things feel.
<v Speaker 2>I feel like I'm back in my own skin again
<v Speaker 2>after a couple of weeks of real hazy mental days.
<v Speaker 2>I feel like I'm productive. I feel like I'm I'm
<v Speaker 2>raring to go. I don't know if it's because I
<v Speaker 2>have a trip coming up next week. I don't know
<v Speaker 2>if it's because my sports teams are lifting my spirits.
<v Speaker 2>I'm not exactly sure what it is, but I'm good.
<v Speaker 2>I'm in a good headspace, man, a good mindset. Things
<v Speaker 2>are good. How about you?
<v Speaker 1>I heard I have an upset tummy. I'm having tummy
<v Speaker 1>shoes this morning. Took some pepto and UH should be fine.
<v Speaker 1>But we'll find out if I'm not. You know, I
<v Speaker 1>think it'd be real funny if I had to run
<v Speaker 1>out of the middle of this episode to go use
<v Speaker 1>the toilet. So I'm going to risk it.
<v Speaker 2>We'll see if there's any roadblock stories. I think I
<v Speaker 2>got you.
<v Speaker 1>But OK, yeah, all right, just set them up with
<v Speaker 1>the roadblocks that I can walk away. Hell yeah, but.
<v Speaker 2>Are you like me when you so? Pepto cures my
<v Speaker 2>stomach issues too, but not for the way it's supposed to.
<v Speaker 2>I drink pepto and I immediately empty the contents of
<v Speaker 2>my stomach because I hate the taste of it.
<v Speaker 1>That works for you, Yeah, no, that that would actually
<v Speaker 1>be more useful. Maybe, No, I'm I'm fine. I can
<v Speaker 1>drink that stuff and it calms the tummy down a
<v Speaker 1>little bit, So we'll see. I think that it was
<v Speaker 1>just like I might honestly might be emotional stuff. Might
<v Speaker 1>be like, oh, just dealing with a lot a little
<v Speaker 1>bit of stress, and it's getting to the tummy a
<v Speaker 1>little bit.
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, it happens.
<v Speaker 1>We'll just we'll settle and relax talk about video games
<v Speaker 1>with Jason Finelli. I think we'll be all right. How
<v Speaker 1>are you doing? Otherwise you go you and jan talking
<v Speaker 1>a lot about magic when I came in here. Anything
<v Speaker 1>the safer yourselves.
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to Atlanta next week. I'm very excited about
<v Speaker 2>Uh he is not he is, but that's fine. I'll
<v Speaker 2>play games for him, but no, I played some games
<v Speaker 2>last night. Things are starting to pick up again with
<v Speaker 2>Spider Man coming out this week. I put that video out,
<v Speaker 2>which I was really nervous about. But y'all are very
<v Speaker 2>nice about it that that actually checked it out talking
<v Speaker 2>about Spider Man, and they must have listened, because right
<v Speaker 2>after I put that video out, the price of the
<v Speaker 2>boxes I was showing kind of dipped. I'm still too expense.
<v Speaker 2>There's still seven hundred bucks, but but not like the
<v Speaker 2>nine hundred that it was, which is nice. Got another
<v Speaker 2>to do another one today. Not this video is gonna
<v Speaker 2>be a little bit different. It's not going to just
<v Speaker 2>be me. I'll be interviewing someone. Oh cool. I'll just
<v Speaker 2>leave that tease there. That interview is actually right after this,
<v Speaker 2>so I'll have that up hopefully by the end of
<v Speaker 2>the day, and I hope you all enjoy.
<v Speaker 1>It all right, fantastic. Yeah, you mentioned going to Atlanta
<v Speaker 1>and Jane's not gonna be there. Yeah, something about Jan
<v Speaker 1>in Atlanta sounds dangerous to me. I don't know something
<v Speaker 1>about it, Like he would just get up to some shit.
<v Speaker 1>I would just go to Magic City. Let's just get
<v Speaker 1>it out there, all right. I would just go there
<v Speaker 1>and sample the food. Only the food, yeh, I deid.
<v Speaker 1>I would want you to have a shurpas someone to
<v Speaker 1>take care of you, make sure you don't get into
<v Speaker 1>too much trouble. Jan, all right, we should explain what
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<v Speaker 1>All right, we have a lot to get into, so
<v Speaker 1>let's start the morning mess with Sony to host, Stay
<v Speaker 1>to play next week, claims Insider. This is from Benfellow
<v Speaker 1>at PSU Nate the Hate is now confirming that he's
<v Speaker 1>hearing that there will be one. There will be one
<v Speaker 1>next week. Like I've been saying for a while, expect
<v Speaker 1>one before the end of September. It's not that double
<v Speaker 1>O seven to one that already happened. There's a separate one.
<v Speaker 1>And you know, some more conversations starting to pop up
<v Speaker 1>around this, and I think people are starting to set
<v Speaker 1>expectations relatively high. And I'm I'm like ready to like
<v Speaker 1>give people some hope, like, yeah, you probably will be
<v Speaker 1>hearing more about It's it Sorrows. Is that the new
<v Speaker 1>one from the team that did spok thank you?
<v Speaker 2>That's not his name? Yeah?
<v Speaker 1>Oh god, I completely forgot about that one, right. So
<v Speaker 1>that's that's a big one that is like coming up,
<v Speaker 1>I think relatively soon. I think they've said that that
<v Speaker 1>is for next year, so they'll have to give us
<v Speaker 1>an update on that. That seems completely like a fair
<v Speaker 1>expectation to see something there. Then the god of or
<v Speaker 1>spin off the Metroid Vane, Yes, we'll probably get something
<v Speaker 1>with that. There's questions around like all of the bigger
<v Speaker 1>stuff that might be a little bit further out, but
<v Speaker 1>a lot of smoke around Wolverine. Uh, And I'm I
<v Speaker 1>think I'm choosing to believe that one will be there
<v Speaker 1>as well. I heard like they were definitely considering it.
<v Speaker 1>They want to show it off. It all just comes
<v Speaker 1>down to the timing. I think it's probably going to
<v Speaker 1>work out that we will see something there, but I
<v Speaker 1>don't know for sure.
<v Speaker 2>Jason.
<v Speaker 1>My question would be like, beyond that, let's say this
<v Speaker 1>is a state of play that that walks the line
<v Speaker 1>of maybe being a to a showcase. What would it
<v Speaker 1>have to include to like get to that point or
<v Speaker 1>is it already kind of close? If it has those
<v Speaker 1>three things.
<v Speaker 2>Those three things definitely prop it up a little bit.
<v Speaker 2>We would have to hear something about intergalactic planetary planetary
<v Speaker 2>intergalactic from Naughty Dog, I think, especially with I give
<v Speaker 2>it so far away though, right, you would assume so.
<v Speaker 2>But why can't I think of his name? The head
<v Speaker 2>the head writer of Truckman Jesus Christ. Why couldn't I
<v Speaker 2>think of that?
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, he try to running this show. I forget
<v Speaker 1>names every thirty seconds. I get it.
<v Speaker 2>He has now updated his social media to be all
<v Speaker 2>intergalactic all the time. In this bio now says coming
<v Speaker 2>soon intergalactic. It's got the woman with the sword, So
<v Speaker 2>that kind of tips the hand maybe that there's something else.
<v Speaker 2>It might just be like a small gameplay teaser with
<v Speaker 2>some more story trailer sort of thing. You figure that
<v Speaker 2>only debuted at the Game Awards last year, right, we
<v Speaker 2>haven't heard a thing about it since then, so they
<v Speaker 2>have a little more to show. Why not do it here?
<v Speaker 2>I think if I go back and look at Naughty
<v Speaker 2>Dog's other marketing leading up to their games. They were
<v Speaker 2>they were a drip feed sort of company. They didn't
<v Speaker 2>just blow it all out at once, right, So I
<v Speaker 2>think you could see that there. I'm trying to think
<v Speaker 2>what else there might be. Yota is coming, so yeah,
<v Speaker 2>I mean they'll give us, they'll.
<v Speaker 1>Update us on Yotay. Of course, yes, you're right, but
<v Speaker 1>it's like, okay, well, what about the Sony Santa Monica game.
<v Speaker 1>That that is one that's like we could we could
<v Speaker 1>see that here. If that happens, then this is like
<v Speaker 1>a really big state of play if it has that
<v Speaker 1>many first party uh you know, goings ons that it's
<v Speaker 1>so much so that it would include what's happening at
<v Speaker 1>Sony Santa Monica and them announcing their game, and then
<v Speaker 1>at that point you could fill out the rest with
<v Speaker 1>maybe a couple of partner partner published games and a
<v Speaker 1>lot of third party and you got yourself a really
<v Speaker 1>nice show, especially if you can get a lot of
<v Speaker 1>those games. Some dates for next year Intergalactics ones like, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>we could hear about it, right, it's been a year.
<v Speaker 1>At the same time, we might I feel like we
<v Speaker 1>might not hear about it for another two years until
<v Speaker 1>it's ready to go in twenty twenty seven, and it
<v Speaker 1>feels like that's the earliest it could come out, as
<v Speaker 1>well as like it could be like a PS seven
<v Speaker 1>sort of launch title at US at some point. So
<v Speaker 1>whenever that comes out or I'm sorry PS six Jesus,
<v Speaker 1>someone it's chat said PS seven as a joke and
<v Speaker 1>then that got my head. Yeah, so yeah, I look,
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to like to like give the wrong
<v Speaker 1>impression what I was when I heard about this early
<v Speaker 1>on and I was talking to some contacts the sort
<v Speaker 1>of they couched it in, like, yeah, look, expect the
<v Speaker 1>stay of play and be realistic about the timeline that
<v Speaker 1>Sony's working with where they might want to focus on
<v Speaker 1>a couple of these games Sorrows and God of War
<v Speaker 1>first before they talk about anything else. I think now
<v Speaker 1>it sounds like Wolverine as well, and I'm not I'm
<v Speaker 1>not going to expect anything beyond that, because again, state
<v Speaker 1>of plays can often be they can feel, you know,
<v Speaker 1>I just want to say, disappointing. But whatever, where where
<v Speaker 1>should expectations be for a state to play? They often
<v Speaker 1>feel obligatory. They often feel like something into or Sony
<v Speaker 1>going through the motions of we have this big platform,
<v Speaker 1>we need to use it to help our partners out
<v Speaker 1>and as well as to help our own games occasionally.
<v Speaker 1>So let's put these things together and just communicate to
<v Speaker 1>our audience and sell some video games. And it's sort
<v Speaker 1>of just then, you know, doing normal marketing stuff. We
<v Speaker 1>kind of build it up in our heads. But at
<v Speaker 1>the same time, it does feel like maybe we're due
<v Speaker 1>for one of these to pop off, and this one
<v Speaker 1>makes a lot of sense.
<v Speaker 2>Now, wouldn't they just call a showcase at that point? Obviously,
<v Speaker 2>I mean assuming that the state of play is just
<v Speaker 2>for the rumors, But I would like to think that
<v Speaker 2>PlayStation has some sort of differentiator between a state and
<v Speaker 2>play and a showcase. And if what's happening, what we're
<v Speaker 2>talking about right now with all of these potential first
<v Speaker 2>party games, that's a showcase to me. Then again, if
<v Speaker 2>they use the showcase name and it underwhelms, so what
<v Speaker 2>do you do here? Do you use state of play
<v Speaker 2>and over deliver or do you use showcase and potentially underdeliver.
<v Speaker 2>It's this weird dichotomy dilemma that they've caused for themselves.
<v Speaker 2>That don't I don't really end with them on that one,
<v Speaker 2>but also too, I think hype in general for this
<v Speaker 2>is semi influenced by how excited we all were about
<v Speaker 2>Nintendo last Friday. Rightly, Yeah, there's a lot of on
<v Speaker 2>to the next one in these rumors. I think that
<v Speaker 2>is sort of generating this hype and whatever happens with it,
<v Speaker 2>be it next week or the week after. I do
<v Speaker 2>think there is what we are due. The last state
<v Speaker 2>of play besides the Double O seven one was pre
<v Speaker 2>SGF September. Yeah, yeah, September is the month for that.
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, bring on these first party games, Bring on
<v Speaker 2>the final Fantasy nine remake. For fuck's sake, we're talking
<v Speaker 2>about I don't know. I don't know. I don't think
<v Speaker 2>that's going to happen. Actually, Cosquery in excess so many
<v Speaker 2>things that they're working on right now, and every new
<v Speaker 2>showcase brings one or two. They've announced three RPGs in
<v Speaker 2>a month and a half, from July thirty first and
<v Speaker 2>then last week Elliott with Philipildia Octopa zero and then
<v Speaker 2>with No Phillibilitia with no Philibildia and Dragon Quest seven
<v Speaker 2>reimagined with a reabilitia.
<v Speaker 1>So I.
<v Speaker 2>Uh, I don't know what, I don't know how many
<v Speaker 2>studios they got firing right now, but there's a lot
<v Speaker 2>going on over there, so maybe that remake was shelved
<v Speaker 2>or but that's all the other show.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, No, I mean I think it's worth talking about
<v Speaker 1>because Final Fantasy nine remake. I think a lot of
<v Speaker 1>people have already given up hope. I know that's where
<v Speaker 1>Mike's at when I talk to him about it. Uh,
<v Speaker 1>if it doesn't happen here, it's not happening. If it
<v Speaker 1>doesn't get announced at this you know, pre Tokyo Game
<v Speaker 1>Show state or State of Play from PlayStation. I think
<v Speaker 1>that they're like they're just not doing it, you know,
<v Speaker 1>unless they're waiting for something that Tokyo Game Show.
<v Speaker 2>I guess now I say all those things, but there
<v Speaker 2>is one other things the Square Enix is working on
<v Speaker 2>that we know about. And the word Mike reminded me.
<v Speaker 2>So that's what kind of tip your mind as to
<v Speaker 2>where I'm going here. It's got a four in it,
<v Speaker 2>and we haven't seen a damn thing about Sora and
<v Speaker 2>Kingdom Hearts four since that initial trailer. Maybe maybe that's
<v Speaker 2>what they bring to the State of Play showcase.
<v Speaker 1>That's that's not impossible for sure, I don't.
<v Speaker 2>Know, but yeah, so so for outside of those two,
<v Speaker 2>Capcom has games take it up Data Song, we could
<v Speaker 2>get Residentvial Trailer number three. We could get the next
<v Speaker 2>DLC for Street Fighter, which I believe is in Alex
<v Speaker 2>Alex or Ingrid. I don't remember which one, but whatever
<v Speaker 2>Fighter that is, they're coming, They're coming soon. Yeah, I
<v Speaker 2>think there is definitely some fire to this state of
<v Speaker 2>play smoke. But I think the only question now is
<v Speaker 2>state of play or showcase, depending on how much Sony
<v Speaker 2>themselves has to share, and that remains to be seen.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think, you know, before we get off the topic,
<v Speaker 1>I will dial it down. We talked a lot about
<v Speaker 1>what could happen like if it is running up to
<v Speaker 1>a showcase we don't know. Set your expectations accordingly for
<v Speaker 1>how you felt out of most state of plays. I
<v Speaker 1>think that's fair, you know, I mean, or you know,
<v Speaker 1>if you're someone who doesn't care about getting disappointed, which
<v Speaker 1>you know, why should you kind of at a certain
<v Speaker 1>point like, oh, you were expecting something, then you watched it,
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't great, So what move on with your life?
<v Speaker 1>That's that's you know, That's how I think people probably
<v Speaker 1>should feel about it. But if you do, then get
<v Speaker 1>your hopes up as high as possible and if it's
<v Speaker 1>something that really bothers you when these things are disappointing,
<v Speaker 1>and set your expectations accordingly.
<v Speaker 2>Quick correction viper see viper is next to street photo six.
<v Speaker 2>I thought she was out already because they teased her
<v Speaker 2>at EVO, but she didn't actually release her yet, So
<v Speaker 2>my badil.
<v Speaker 1>And let's see before we move on from Sony Motor
<v Speaker 1>World Hype with a super chat Seemingly I can't talk.
<v Speaker 1>They're annoyed with you or happy with you? Well, now,
<v Speaker 1>don't you tell me to smile? People always say my
<v Speaker 1>style is wild. There you go, Thank you, Motor World Hype.
<v Speaker 1>Let's uh, let's go with the intergalactic planetary. Uh all right,
<v Speaker 1>let's keep moving here. Yakuza Kiwami three mentioned spotted on
<v Speaker 1>series' official website. This is from sal Ramano at gamats
<v Speaker 1>to the official Japanese website for the Yakuza Like a
<v Speaker 1>Dragon series listed then removed a news category for the
<v Speaker 1>unannounced Yakuza Kawami three earlier today. Although the news category
<v Speaker 1>was removed, multiple users spotted it before it disappeared and
<v Speaker 1>a Google search still features the category and it's a
<v Speaker 1>meta description. Publisher Sega and Yakuza like a Dragon series
<v Speaker 1>developer rut Kotoku Studio will host RGG Summit twenty twenty
<v Speaker 1>five on September twenty third, where the studio is expected
<v Speaker 1>to reveal its latest titles. Yeah, this like they usually
<v Speaker 1>have something for these RGG showcases, these summits, and they
<v Speaker 1>this is a prolific studio. They get a lot of
<v Speaker 1>work done really fast. They put out like a Dragon, Pirate, Yakuza,
<v Speaker 1>and Hawaii last year, and they had some other stuff
<v Speaker 1>like the year before that, and that's like on top
<v Speaker 1>of the major games that they're releasing for like the
<v Speaker 1>mainline games from the Yakuza series. So people were expecting something.
<v Speaker 1>I think this lines up with Oh yeah, we're probably
<v Speaker 1>due for Kawami three. You a Yakuza guys is something
<v Speaker 1>that excites you.
<v Speaker 2>I'm a recent yakas a guy. Infinite Wealth was the
<v Speaker 2>first one I ever played. I played Pirate Yakas. I
<v Speaker 2>actually did guides for IGN for both of those, so
<v Speaker 2>that's why I played them, and I ended up enjoying
<v Speaker 2>I ended up really enjoying them. I think it's very
<v Speaker 2>smart that they re release all the older games just
<v Speaker 2>so people like me have a more modern way of
<v Speaker 2>catching up with the story, because I feel like it
<v Speaker 2>is worthy of that based on the things that I
<v Speaker 2>have heard from long time Yakaza fans are like a
<v Speaker 2>Dragon fans. Lex Luddy is in Japan right now and
<v Speaker 2>shuddering and has no idea why. But I will say,
<v Speaker 2>speaking of overworked rgg my goodness, what you just mentioned.
<v Speaker 2>Virtual Fighter is under their first year. That other game
<v Speaker 2>that just got a name.
<v Speaker 1>The Project Century, that is now, what is what is
<v Speaker 1>that happening? It just happened a name that I do
<v Speaker 1>struggle remember it, but I got I remember Project's Century
<v Speaker 1>for some reason, So there we go.
<v Speaker 2>It's Neil Druckman, that's the name. But yeah, it's a
<v Speaker 2>stranger than that, you, stranger than heaven? There It is
<v Speaker 2>that that that they're working on Kawami three makes sense.
<v Speaker 2>I don't know that they're ready for like a Dragon
<v Speaker 2>nine or Yakaza nine, whatever you would call it.
<v Speaker 1>Ryan. Yeah, that feels like we get teased in like
<v Speaker 1>the next year and a half. We get teased yet.
<v Speaker 1>But I just hope these guys are resting you know
<v Speaker 1>what I mean. If they're making Kawami three plus everything
<v Speaker 1>else on their play I hope SECA gives them the day.
<v Speaker 2>Off once in a while so they can recharge.
<v Speaker 1>It feels like a very efficient studio. Feels like they
<v Speaker 1>know how to use their tools and reuse assets and
<v Speaker 1>and they're like, hey, no, these games take place in
<v Speaker 1>the same city. The city isn't going to change all
<v Speaker 1>that much. We're not going to rebuild all this stuff.
<v Speaker 1>Let's just use it as a set like you would
<v Speaker 1>a movie set. And so yeah, that I love that
<v Speaker 1>doing more of that. They they've figured that out, and
<v Speaker 1>it's I think it's enabled them to sort of navigate
<v Speaker 1>this generation of making games better than just about any
<v Speaker 1>other studio.
<v Speaker 2>That is basically what Pirate Yakasa was different. Character, say,
<v Speaker 2>settings and all the well the Pirate Shenanians were new,
<v Speaker 2>but everything else, like Hawaii was the exact same map
<v Speaker 2>as Infinite Wealth, and that honestly made it a little
<v Speaker 2>easier to play. Right, I already knew was going I
<v Speaker 2>knew how to navigate there. There is an advantage to that,
<v Speaker 2>I think. Plus Goro is awesome, so he was doing
<v Speaker 2>perfect Their modubus so he made the perfect hero there.
<v Speaker 2>Uh yeah, I do like there is something to be
<v Speaker 2>said about efficiency where you sacrifice perhaps advancing to cutting
<v Speaker 2>edge technology sooner as and then just staying in what
<v Speaker 2>you're familiar with and creating experiences from That might turn
<v Speaker 2>some people off that want the next big thing for
<v Speaker 2>your franchise. But at the same time, if you're bringing
<v Speaker 2>out games.
<v Speaker 1>Straight Stranger, then Heaven looks like a next big bota
<v Speaker 1>for Yeah, for like like a lot of new tech
<v Speaker 1>in there, and in the meantime they can kind of
<v Speaker 1>keep working on these other games that are are more
<v Speaker 1>familiar in those familiar settings, using the familiar tools, and
<v Speaker 1>no one's complaining. And it's like for the most brand,
<v Speaker 1>it's I get people start to well, what do you
<v Speaker 1>complaining about? The studio's got something new that looks new,
<v Speaker 1>and it's like, oh, they're just doing it all. You know.
<v Speaker 1>It feels like, well, how long can that last? Eventually
<v Speaker 1>they'll run out of rope there, or they'll have some
<v Speaker 1>technical hiccup that causes a derailment, and then does everything
<v Speaker 1>come crumbling down in that moment? It hasn't so far,
<v Speaker 1>but you know whatever, even if they do have a
<v Speaker 1>problem in the future. It's been so impressive up to
<v Speaker 1>this point that they should still get their flowers.
<v Speaker 2>Going back to strategy too. I think that's why them
<v Speaker 2>picking up Virtual Fighter makes a lot of sense too,
<v Speaker 2>because it allows them a fighting game to sort of
<v Speaker 2>tinker with their combat system. They may find things in
<v Speaker 2>whatever they develop for Virtual Fighter that translates seamlessly into
<v Speaker 2>Like a Dragon if they ever want to go back
<v Speaker 2>to real time combat or vice versa. Something about the
<v Speaker 2>narrative direction of Like a Dragon games, or the way
<v Speaker 2>that their stories are told, or even their cinematics. We're
<v Speaker 2>already seeing that in these small Virtual Fighter clips that
<v Speaker 2>we have, So them also being allowed to branch out
<v Speaker 2>of their while they're adjacent uh genres, they're not completely
<v Speaker 2>the same. Obviously, fighting is just fighting where this has
<v Speaker 2>fight where like a Dragon has fighting aspects. But being
<v Speaker 2>able to sort of branch out and try different things
<v Speaker 2>makes their core franchise better, YE think true. So I
<v Speaker 2>think there's a there's a lot of strategy in that
<v Speaker 2>as well.
<v Speaker 1>Yep. And I think Kwami three is something that had
<v Speaker 1>to happen. My understanding is someone who's not played it,
<v Speaker 1>not not a fan favorite, but also one that they
<v Speaker 1>want to be to get the Kwami treatment. They want
<v Speaker 1>to see like what can be improved? Uh, and then
<v Speaker 1>you know, once it's out of the way, then they
<v Speaker 1>can get through these other games that people people like
<v Speaker 1>better and go to a new a new spin off
<v Speaker 1>like a like A like like A like a Dragon
<v Speaker 1>Pirate Yakuza in Hawaii, which is a fun thing just
<v Speaker 1>to say the whole name of each time. All right,
<v Speaker 1>let's uh, let's take a break. We're gonna we have
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<v Speaker 1>Hey, it's Game Mess Mornings and we're back for more.
<v Speaker 1>I'm Jeff Grubb. That's Jason Finelli. Let's get back into
<v Speaker 1>the headlines here with the first official Silent Hill F
<v Speaker 1>review is in and it's positive. This is from Chris
<v Speaker 1>Scullion at VGC. The first official review of Silent Hill.
<v Speaker 1>Have you know what silent hilth that's just easier to
<v Speaker 1>say HILF has been published and it's a positive. One
<v Speaker 1>Japanese publication from Mitsu gave it a thirty six out
<v Speaker 1>of forty total. That's whether it's four reviewers each giving
<v Speaker 1>it a nine out of ten. They still do the
<v Speaker 1>review crew style thing. Yeah, you know they're praising the
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's grotesque and breathtaking, horrifying, all the things
<v Speaker 1>you want from a Silent Hill game. And this is
<v Speaker 1>on top of that leaked review that we got from
<v Speaker 1>that person that did not understand embargos. It's a shame.
<v Speaker 1>I really was like, yeah, that one's on dual shock.
<v Speaker 1>I should not explaining to someone who's clearly not new
<v Speaker 1>to this concept. Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>I I first, when I first heard about it, my
<v Speaker 2>first reaction in the slack chat was one a maroon.
<v Speaker 2>But then when I when I started really learning about it,
<v Speaker 2>it was their second of a review. There were list
<v Speaker 2>writers before that. This is a side gig. They're a
<v Speaker 2>high school teacher. I think that they do have a
<v Speaker 2>degree in journalism, so it kind of makes me wonder
<v Speaker 2>if they forgot what embargoes were by.
<v Speaker 1>Something gets covered like briefly in school, Like I, stick
<v Speaker 1>with the thing unless you're working with every day.
<v Speaker 2>I saw dog Pilot and I'm just like, nah, man,
<v Speaker 2>I just couldn't bring myself to do it. It's an unfortunate
<v Speaker 2>situation with a lot of different failures. But I agree
<v Speaker 2>with you that it falls on editorial. Like I said,
<v Speaker 2>because of who owns dual Shockers, I made the hypothesis
<v Speaker 2>that it was just in a slack chat code date
<v Speaker 2>off you go. And then somebody replied to me that
<v Speaker 2>who used to work for that parent company? That said
<v Speaker 2>it may have just even been a Trello card that
<v Speaker 2>information and you just assign it to yourself. So it
<v Speaker 2>just sounds like a very unfortunate situation for someone who
<v Speaker 2>was very excited to talk about it, to the point
<v Speaker 2>where they didn't want to wait any longer than they
<v Speaker 2>had to, and it ended up biting them in the backside.
<v Speaker 2>A true horror story to come from a horror game
<v Speaker 2>and one to learn from. So I hope that that
<v Speaker 2>person learns from it, yeah, takes it on the chin
<v Speaker 2>and just you know, becomes a better writer for it.
<v Speaker 2>I would hate for them to use this as the
<v Speaker 2>last review they ever do, because I want to read
<v Speaker 2>those words. Obviously they were excited about it. I want
<v Speaker 2>to know why. I want that perspective. I would hate
<v Speaker 2>for that perspective to go away because of this, not
<v Speaker 2>so much the situation, but because of the unfortunate adult
<v Speaker 2>piling that happened afterward. I don't think it was entirely
<v Speaker 2>their fault.
<v Speaker 1>That's awesome, No, Yeah, I mean, you know, the Internet
<v Speaker 1>loves their daily like, you know, main star of Twitter
<v Speaker 1>sort of thing, their main star of the of the
<v Speaker 1>conversation and going after him, and I could tell right
<v Speaker 1>away that was going to happen. It was not feeling
<v Speaker 1>great about it.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they liked the.
<v Speaker 1>Game though, give it a nine point five, and it's
<v Speaker 1>like Okay, you know that's this sounds like a supervan,
<v Speaker 1>so maybe that's just what's happening here. I don't know.
<v Speaker 1>It's impossible to know until we get more reviews and
<v Speaker 1>play the game ourselves. But I I've not touched this.
<v Speaker 1>I don't you know, I don't have code for it.
<v Speaker 1>And when I go looking around for opinions about it
<v Speaker 1>does sound like the early word is from these reviews
<v Speaker 1>this game could really hit very hard. And it makes
<v Speaker 1>me like just continue to feel pretty encouraged by everything
<v Speaker 1>Konami's doing. You know, a successful company in many other ways,
<v Speaker 1>but not one that seemed very interested in traditional mainstream
<v Speaker 1>Triple A video games, and Capcom certainly kind of made
<v Speaker 1>them turn a light bulball and be like, wait, we
<v Speaker 1>could still probably make a lot of money doing that,
<v Speaker 1>and that they they're not phoning it in, and if
<v Speaker 1>they are phoning in the parts that their phoning in
<v Speaker 1>seem to not be affecting the end product they are.
<v Speaker 1>Maybe they are not like super plugged in, but they
<v Speaker 1>are at least trusting the right people to get the
<v Speaker 1>jobs done. And I'm like, Okay, if this is the
<v Speaker 1>future of Konami, if we can get ten years of this.
<v Speaker 1>I'm there at that point we could start getting some
<v Speaker 1>real We better get that Castlevania game. But what else
<v Speaker 1>do you got? I want to see it at all.
<v Speaker 2>That's the one I think. Once the Castlevania hits, if
<v Speaker 2>that is good, whether it's a two D throwback or
<v Speaker 2>something more modern, then I think they will we start
<v Speaker 2>talking about them. With Sega and Capcom and squar Enix
<v Speaker 2>as firing on all set islanders again, I think they've
<v Speaker 2>established a good start. I think going with Blueber for
<v Speaker 2>the Silent Hill to remake was genius. I think that
<v Speaker 2>was a great idea for both sides. That's going to
<v Speaker 2>be looked back as one of those partnerships that really
<v Speaker 2>benefited both sides in the long run. It allowed them
<v Speaker 2>to buy to get extra time for this f which
<v Speaker 2>sounds like it's a fantastic game. The bringing in the
<v Speaker 2>writer as at Rikishi zero seven, I think the Japanese
<v Speaker 2>visual novel writer that they brought into write this that
<v Speaker 2>was a smart decision too. To it sounds like they've
<v Speaker 2>figured out what they can do and what they were
<v Speaker 2>struggling with before, and then going out to those who
<v Speaker 2>can help them with their faults, and that is growth, baby,
<v Speaker 2>that's what you want to see, the kind of growth
<v Speaker 2>we like talking about, not this infinite growth business bullshit.
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure we'll get into that eventually. But I like this.
<v Speaker 2>I like that they are on the upswing. I think
<v Speaker 2>there is still a lot that Konami can bring to
<v Speaker 2>this industry through its franchises. I don't know that a
<v Speaker 2>new metal Gear is ever going to happen that much,
<v Speaker 2>be like a remake, remaster, build the war Chest, build
<v Speaker 2>the golfers sort of thing, because without Kajima, I don't
<v Speaker 2>know that metal Gear is metal Gear. And that survive
<v Speaker 2>one Zombie one I think that's all the proof you need.
<v Speaker 2>But I I'm I'm very excited to see Castlevania is
<v Speaker 2>the last bastion. I think. I feel like Castlevania is
<v Speaker 2>the last Konami franchise that we have not seen a
<v Speaker 2>new one of yet. That I I mean, of the
<v Speaker 2>bit of their big ones I'm probably missing, right.
<v Speaker 1>I Mean, there's stuff like there's you know, Contraman or Contraman,
<v Speaker 1>the Contraman Contra and bomb Ran at the same time,
<v Speaker 1>there's you know, Rocket Night Adventures. Things that are way
<v Speaker 1>down the list. You're right, Yeah, Caslvania is the next
<v Speaker 1>big one.
<v Speaker 2>No wait, a second Rocket Knight Adventures. That door is open.
<v Speaker 2>If Bubbzy can come back, there is hope for Rocket Night.
<v Speaker 1>Look I'm not I'm not some nerd who likes Rocket
<v Speaker 1>Night Adventures. I've never played it. I know, I know
<v Speaker 1>there's some fans out there, so let's throw them a
<v Speaker 1>little bit.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I just I feel like this is good.
<v Speaker 2>This is the kind of positive I guess environment or
<v Speaker 2>positive feeling about Konami that had been lost for a
<v Speaker 2>very long time in the early to mid twenty tens
<v Speaker 2>when they decided to go full Pachinko machine. And I
<v Speaker 2>hope it works out for them, I really do. Ten
<v Speaker 2>more years of Konami making great games just feels right.
<v Speaker 2>I hope it works out.
<v Speaker 1>Yep, exactly. I'm rooting for it, rooting for him, you know.
<v Speaker 1>I My opinion on the Metal Gear thing is I
<v Speaker 1>feel the exact opposite with as of many metal Gear
<v Speaker 1>fans where being able to look at a little bit
<v Speaker 1>from the outside, I've played a lot of the metal
<v Speaker 1>Gear games. I've not played two, three, or four, but
<v Speaker 1>from looking at it from the outside, it's like, look,
<v Speaker 1>if they do these remakes, right, there's definitely a way,
<v Speaker 1>a pathway for them to make a new Metal Gear
<v Speaker 1>game of sorts. At the very least, they could do
<v Speaker 1>like a new Revengeance, bring in Platinum or you know,
<v Speaker 1>the Pain of People, something like that, and then if
<v Speaker 1>they do a good job on that, that opens the
<v Speaker 1>door even further. It's like they have to do they
<v Speaker 1>have to get everything right, so like that's a really
<v Speaker 1>difficult thing to do. So yes, it is still unlikely,
<v Speaker 1>but there's a pathway where if they put in the
<v Speaker 1>effort and they show a capcom like ability to remake
<v Speaker 1>these games in such a way where it's like, man,
<v Speaker 1>they're even better than before. Now. Three was not that
<v Speaker 1>that was a direct one to one remake for the
<v Speaker 1>most part, but as they go forward, maybe they kind
<v Speaker 1>of show off a little bit more. And then in
<v Speaker 1>eight years we were like, Okay, they've done a lot
<v Speaker 1>of these Metal Gear remakes, Now should we start thinking
<v Speaker 1>about a new one. I think it'll go over a
<v Speaker 1>little bit easier. At that time, it may go over easier.
<v Speaker 2>I'm more worried about I think for me personally, and
<v Speaker 2>I could be wrong about this, but one of the
<v Speaker 2>crowning achievements of that entire franchise was it's admittedly batshit storyline.
<v Speaker 2>I loved it. I loved everything about that storyline, and
<v Speaker 2>I don't that takes. I'm not saying the writer's not
<v Speaker 2>out there, but I feel like it's the kind of
<v Speaker 2>half game, half movie sort of mindset that Kajima is
<v Speaker 2>really good at. And just call me a skeptic because
<v Speaker 2>I haven't seen it from anyone else yet. If there's
<v Speaker 2>someone out there who can do it, please, by all
<v Speaker 2>means give them the reins.
<v Speaker 1>I think they would have to be spending all of
<v Speaker 1>these years of these remakes sort of like steeping themselves
<v Speaker 1>in that and training that the whole new generation of
<v Speaker 1>people that could figure that out.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Sure, I don't think he's the only one that
<v Speaker 2>can make it. I just think right now, other than remakes,
<v Speaker 2>I don't see it yet.
<v Speaker 1>I think you do a remake of the MSX games,
<v Speaker 1>of the of the Nintendo game, and it's like, at
<v Speaker 1>that point you can really just sort of like, Okay,
<v Speaker 1>we're going to adapt this story, We're going to fill
<v Speaker 1>in a lot of the gaps. Can we do this style? Right?
<v Speaker 1>I think that's sort of approving ground at some point.
<v Speaker 2>But so I apologize for that exaggerated reaction, but butch
<v Speaker 2>chat brings up a very interesting potential partner for a
<v Speaker 2>Metal Gear story, and that is remedy.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, samly.
<v Speaker 2>Give me some musical theater in metal Gear. Let's go.
<v Speaker 1>That is so interesting, a big show stopping number. Absolutely,
<v Speaker 1>let's go. All right, let's keep going here. Assassin's Cree
<v Speaker 1>Black Flag remake is reportedly adding extra content and RPG mechanics,
<v Speaker 1>aiming for a March release. This comes from Chris Scullion
<v Speaker 1>at VGC. French publisher. Ju Video magazine, which has posted
<v Speaker 1>information on Ubisoft games in the past, says it has
<v Speaker 1>received details on the remake from a variety of anonymous sources.
<v Speaker 1>According to these sources, it seems likely that the game
<v Speaker 1>is looking at a March twenty twenty six release, but
<v Speaker 1>at least once at least one source suggested that they
<v Speaker 1>weren't entirely confident this target would be reached given how
<v Speaker 1>much work is left to be done. It's reported that
<v Speaker 1>Ubisoft Singapore, which previously worked on the naval battle elements
<v Speaker 1>of Black Flag and went on to develop its successor
<v Speaker 1>of sorts, Skull and Bones, is leading development of the remake.
<v Speaker 1>With support reportedly coming from other studios such as Ubisoft
<v Speaker 1>Bordeaux and Ubisoft Belgrade. Video reports that parts of the
<v Speaker 1>present day sections from the original Black Flag are being
<v Speaker 1>removed and replaced with more Pirate era content, resulting in
<v Speaker 1>a game that will still be longer than the original.
<v Speaker 1>Estimates suggest around four hours of extra content have been added,
<v Speaker 1>including a section involving the Mary Reid character, which was
<v Speaker 1>removed in the original game. Apparently, Jason, They're also added
<v Speaker 1>stuff like RPG mechanics, like some of the more recent
<v Speaker 1>I know, yeah, I'm like, okay, so they are kind
<v Speaker 1>of fundamentally changing the progression in the game. To me,
<v Speaker 1>that sounds like, you know, the thing you do while
<v Speaker 1>you're playing the game, the thing that's sort of is
<v Speaker 1>just happening off to the side. I don't know if
<v Speaker 1>that's going to be too much of a bump in
<v Speaker 1>the road for me of being able to go back
<v Speaker 1>and enjoy this game, although I'm also not particularly craving
<v Speaker 1>to go back to Black Flag all that much. I
<v Speaker 1>like that game a ton, but I played it and
<v Speaker 1>it's not one of those ones I think I'm always
<v Speaker 1>thinking about going back to. But who knows if they
<v Speaker 1>nail it. Maybe I will.
<v Speaker 2>I feel like most of the convoluted parts of Assassin's
<v Speaker 2>Creeds recently, or those RPG like mechanics, not to mention
<v Speaker 2>the gigantic maps.
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, but people, I don't know. People do show
<v Speaker 1>up for those games, though, uh, and I do and.
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.
<v Speaker 1>I don't.
<v Speaker 2>I don't If you're going to remake Black Flag, remake
<v Speaker 2>Black Flag, you want to get rid of the Abstirgo stuff,
<v Speaker 2>the present day stuff, and just have it be the
<v Speaker 2>pirate stuff. Fine, you want to get really saucy and
<v Speaker 2>mix Black Flag with Rogue and have those stories intertwined.
<v Speaker 2>That would be very cool, but that's kind of hard
<v Speaker 2>to do, right. I don't know. As soon as I
<v Speaker 2>heard the RPG stuff, I was okay with Theobstergo going Away.
<v Speaker 2>If you just want to focus on the pirate stuff
<v Speaker 2>is the best part of the game. But the RPG,
<v Speaker 2>I just I don't know. I don't know if Black
<v Speaker 2>Flag needs that. That feels like over complicating what was
<v Speaker 2>a very good Assassin's Creed game. I could be wrong.
<v Speaker 2>They could have found away.
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to see a bunch of like I
<v Speaker 1>don't want to see like a huge deep loot system
<v Speaker 1>or when that's trying to play it being deep, that
<v Speaker 1>would be distracting for sure. So I hope this just
<v Speaker 1>means very light character upgrade stuff. There's probably a new
<v Speaker 1>skill tree that's probably what this is, and uh that
<v Speaker 1>that wouldn't get in the way of this game all
<v Speaker 1>that much, and maybe just give you one more fun
<v Speaker 1>thing to do while you are exploring the world. But
<v Speaker 1>you're you're right, like at a certain points, like, that's
<v Speaker 1>not what Black Flag was. It doesn't need it, So
<v Speaker 1>what are they doing here? But maybe maybe they're like, well,
<v Speaker 1>we know we got the old Black Flag fans, let's
<v Speaker 1>see if we can bring in these new Assassins Creed
<v Speaker 1>fans by promising the stuff that that they do like.
<v Speaker 1>And a lot of them do like these new Assassins
<v Speaker 1>Assassin's Creed games quite a bit. We'll see that this
<v Speaker 1>is one that could pop up anywhere. This could be
<v Speaker 1>at the at the State of Play, could be at
<v Speaker 1>the Akilles, it could be in a bunch of places.
<v Speaker 1>We'll see if we care about it anytime soon. Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>Report finds nearly all gamers have played a remaster or
<v Speaker 1>remake in the last year. Weird it's only only like
<v Speaker 1>many of our stories were about exactly that. This is
<v Speaker 1>from Darren Bonthus or as I wrote here, Baron bon Thus,
<v Speaker 1>who I have bon game spot. If you played on this, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>it's got a whole have been a bunch of skulls
<v Speaker 1>on the side. He's a deadly killer. If you've played
<v Speaker 1>any PC or console game over the last twelve months,
<v Speaker 1>there's a good chance that at least one of them
<v Speaker 1>was a remake or a remaster. That's according to new
<v Speaker 1>research which found that not only have these games been
<v Speaker 1>popular with the people they pulled for this research, they've
<v Speaker 1>also been desirable diversions specialists. Strategy and Insights consultancy firm
<v Speaker 1>MTM via Games Industry top Is pulled fifteen hundred people
<v Speaker 1>and seven hundred and fifty people each are that's seven
<v Speaker 1>hundred thy people each in the US and the UK
<v Speaker 1>who play games regularly. Our report shows that there is
<v Speaker 1>a strong appeal for remakes and remasters, but it's a
<v Speaker 1>tight balancing act for studios to get right. And that's
<v Speaker 1>according to the head of gaming at MTM, many of
<v Speaker 1>these games are far out selling their original release. Okay, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>this is just sort of like news that we already
<v Speaker 1>knew to be true in some ways, but having it
<v Speaker 1>sort of just like blatantly confirmed by some of some
<v Speaker 1>light research here, it's like, yeah, I guess Jason, my
<v Speaker 1>question would be like, what are you feeling about remakes
<v Speaker 1>and remasters these days? To me, it's almost like, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>that's just gaming. I want those because that's just it
<v Speaker 1>feels like a new way to play games. To me,
<v Speaker 1>I don't think about it much deeper than that. I
<v Speaker 1>don't think most people are How are you feeling about it?
<v Speaker 2>I think there's two ways to go about it. One,
<v Speaker 2>it's bringing classic games to a modern age, which always
<v Speaker 2>has that nostalgia hit right, So you might even attract
<v Speaker 2>people who haven't played games in a while to replay
<v Speaker 2>these games that they like Delta and Oblivion and things
<v Speaker 2>like that. But more importantly, I think the world has
<v Speaker 2>a lot of people really really anxious right now, and
<v Speaker 2>anything they can do to remind themselves of times that
<v Speaker 2>they weren't so anxious seems to make a lot of sense.
<v Speaker 2>So I get it. I get wanting to go back
<v Speaker 2>to a time of innocence. I get wanting to go
<v Speaker 2>back to and really have a time that you were
<v Speaker 2>really thought of fondly in your life with a video
<v Speaker 2>game associated with it. There is a psychological aspect to it,
<v Speaker 2>I think, and it might also be too. There's just
<v Speaker 2>people who are, I don't want to say, maybe just
<v Speaker 2>apathetic to the current gaming landscape. Like they just do
<v Speaker 2>not jive with how the Triple A big time title
<v Speaker 2>games are in this day of age. So they go
<v Speaker 2>back to if they're not going back to games on
<v Speaker 2>their original consoles, they're going to get these remakes and
<v Speaker 2>play them with that fresh code of paint, with those
<v Speaker 2>fresh graphics and things like that. I can't say I'm
<v Speaker 2>surprised by it. Nostalgia has always been a major play
<v Speaker 2>in every media that there is. But I wonder too,
<v Speaker 2>again how much of it is just people being like,
<v Speaker 2>I need to escape, Let's go to the games I
<v Speaker 2>used to like. Yeah, I mean that's why I still
<v Speaker 2>play things like old Street Fighter games or old Marvel Versus.
<v Speaker 2>That's why the Marvel Verus Capcom collection and Capcom Fighting
<v Speaker 2>collections have resonated with me so well. I just remember
<v Speaker 2>like being a kid and playing these fighting games and
<v Speaker 2>making basically it was action fit years but on a screen,
<v Speaker 2>and making them butt heeads to see who would win.
<v Speaker 2>I really really enjoyed that. So now I get to
<v Speaker 2>do that with those same games on these modern consoles
<v Speaker 2>or PC or what have you. And there is a
<v Speaker 2>there's a unique sense of joy that comes from that
<v Speaker 2>as opposed to buying a brand new game and playing that.
<v Speaker 2>It's still joy, it's just a different kind.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And there's a lot of socializing in video games
<v Speaker 1>where people will play games online or hang out in
<v Speaker 1>a discord, and people will talk about growing up on
<v Speaker 1>certain games. And there's a lot, probably a lot of people,
<v Speaker 1>probably more than we even realize, who are in these spaces,
<v Speaker 1>who have gotten into this kind of space where you
<v Speaker 1>might be in a discord where people are talking about
<v Speaker 1>playing old video games relatively recently in the last five
<v Speaker 1>to ten years, and there's probably a lot of games
<v Speaker 1>that people bring up all the time that you hear
<v Speaker 1>about and you never touched, and then they get remake
<v Speaker 1>or remade or remastered and you're like, well, now it's
<v Speaker 1>my chance to go and play this and be a
<v Speaker 1>part of that conversation. Or like, even if you were
<v Speaker 1>like we're playing games that entire time in these spaces,
<v Speaker 1>maybe you wrong. One platform maybe you were playing on
<v Speaker 1>console and now there's some PC stuff that's coming your
<v Speaker 1>way and you're wants to try that, or vice versa.
<v Speaker 1>A lot of console games finally going to PC. I
<v Speaker 1>think that's like, this is just like a reminder. It's like, oh, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>that game that was such a huge hit back in
<v Speaker 1>two thousand. Yeah, it sold three million copies, and that
<v Speaker 1>was a huge hit back then, and now there are like,
<v Speaker 1>now an equivalent hit would be like fifteen million. There's
<v Speaker 1>tons of people that like, have never ever seen this
<v Speaker 1>thing actually in motion. Let's give them a chance to
<v Speaker 1>try it out, all right.
<v Speaker 2>Real quick. Some people just think there's nostalgia hits as memes,
<v Speaker 2>and they set the reminder for when the Virtual Boy
<v Speaker 2>becomes available on these website. But you know, maybe we're
<v Speaker 2>just sick. Jeff is available yet?
<v Speaker 1>Is it available? I need to get it? Everybody help
<v Speaker 1>her brother out when as soon as it goes up
<v Speaker 1>and people were pre ordered it in the UK, what's
<v Speaker 1>taken so long in the United States? Yeah, proper tariffs, honestly,
<v Speaker 1>probably just logistics. That's good, good fun stuff. All right.
<v Speaker 1>Let's see here. New PS five system update out now
<v Speaker 1>with power saving mode and Dual Sense Sync upgrade. This
<v Speaker 1>is from Grace Benfel at GameSpot. A new PlayStation five
<v Speaker 1>system update is now available as of September seventeenth, bringing
<v Speaker 1>the ability to pair a dual Sense to multiple devices
<v Speaker 1>at once. The update also introduces a power Saver mode
<v Speaker 1>on the PS five, which further upgrade with which further
<v Speaker 1>with excuse me which future upgrade updates. Two games like
<v Speaker 1>Death Stranding, Two Demon Souls, and Ghost of Yota will
<v Speaker 1>add support for So basically you'll be able to go
<v Speaker 1>into power saving mode on PS five. I don't fully understand.
<v Speaker 1>I was trying to figure this out. Yeah, gonds like.
<v Speaker 2>You'll be able to go into the game and put
<v Speaker 2>it in power saving mode while the game is active. Yes,
<v Speaker 2>that's way. You can just turn the console back on
<v Speaker 2>and bang it right back in the game, sort of
<v Speaker 2>like a quick resume sort of deal.
<v Speaker 1>Right, quick resume. Yes, for these it has to be
<v Speaker 1>engaged on a title by a title basis. It sounds like, yeah, okay, interesting,
<v Speaker 1>It's probably something that some people will want to take
<v Speaker 1>advantage of. I was more interested in the dual sense
<v Speaker 1>of being able to connected to my PS five am
<v Speaker 1>I PC at the same time. That sounds really nice.
<v Speaker 1>I don't have multiple ps fives, but it maybe one
<v Speaker 1>day I will get a pro who knows. And I
<v Speaker 1>like the idea of like controllers just not you know.
<v Speaker 1>I was playing the Final Boss of the Silk Song
<v Speaker 1>yesterday and I was down here and I was trying
<v Speaker 1>to play, and I'm like, suddenly it's just started pausing.
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I'm definitely not hitting the pause button. Like
<v Speaker 1>my kid had a controller upstairs. She was trying to
<v Speaker 1>connect it to she was trying to play her switch
<v Speaker 1>and it's like, oh no, please stop, please stop. Oh
<v Speaker 1>my god, you're gonna get me killed. And it's like,
<v Speaker 1>you know, you turn that thing on and have it
<v Speaker 1>just like probably recognize the thing that it's closest to.
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if these controllers can do that, but
<v Speaker 1>it feels like they should be a little bit smarter
<v Speaker 1>than they are about connections. That's they are still a
<v Speaker 1>little bit cumbersome all controllers when it comes to that process,
<v Speaker 1>and hopefully things like this can sort of improve it.
<v Speaker 1>Or maybe it'll just control both devices at the same
<v Speaker 1>time when I would have had the same problem. I
<v Speaker 1>don't know, but yeah, nice little updates, are you feeling
<v Speaker 1>about like Sony's tending of the PS five and giving
<v Speaker 1>it updates and making it feel like a modern system
<v Speaker 1>that continues to get upgrades.
<v Speaker 2>Well, I think when I first saw this, especially with
<v Speaker 2>a dual Sense part, I thought of it more as
<v Speaker 2>a much easier way for players who are buying PC
<v Speaker 2>ports of PS five games that they may already own,
<v Speaker 2>to just go back and forth. I think that's the
<v Speaker 2>con so, but it's also a good thing. Don't get
<v Speaker 2>me wrong. I think that being able to use the
<v Speaker 2>dual Sense as a PC controller, which is something I
<v Speaker 2>forget right Like I have PC specific controllers. I have
<v Speaker 2>a Razor Wolverine over here. That's my PC controller. I
<v Speaker 2>forget that the dual Sense controller can hook up to
<v Speaker 2>my PC. A lot of people use that way, or
<v Speaker 2>it's like my mobile devices through Bluetooth. It can do
<v Speaker 2>that too. I just forget that I can do that
<v Speaker 2>from time to time. So having these reminders and now
<v Speaker 2>making it even easier to go back and forth, I
<v Speaker 2>think ON does help the person with multiple devices. Do
<v Speaker 2>I see myself using it all that much? No, but
<v Speaker 2>I can definitely see the appeal in someone who might
<v Speaker 2>want to use the same controller for multiple devices, Like
<v Speaker 2>you said, now, will there be something to avoid your
<v Speaker 2>potential Silk Song catastrophe that you just described. No, I
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't count on that. You might not, at least not yet.
<v Speaker 2>I don't know that that technology that Sony is there yet.
<v Speaker 2>I think they're just getting the dual connection thing going
<v Speaker 2>at the moment. But that, man, that would have been
<v Speaker 2>tragic for you. If you're in the final boss of
<v Speaker 2>one of the hardest games made this year and you're
<v Speaker 2>a floor away, you're being jeopardized. But like in a
<v Speaker 2>game like Silk Song, you might just think the game's
<v Speaker 2>playing tricks on your right.
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I was just like, I'm probably just messing up.
<v Speaker 1>I'm probably probably just freaking out my hands going up
<v Speaker 1>there and I'm not even realizing it. But happened twice
<v Speaker 1>really fast, and I think I know what's going on here. Uh,
<v Speaker 1>all right, last story here. Dispatch, the superhero comedy from
<v Speaker 1>ex Telltale debs confirms PC plus PS five release date
<v Speaker 1>and episode release. Dispatched, the upcoming workplace superhero comedy adventure
<v Speaker 1>game with a strategy layer from a group of ex
<v Speaker 1>Telltale developers, is coming to PC and PlayStation five on
<v Speaker 1>October twenty second. It will be released episodically over the
<v Speaker 1>course of four weeks, with two episodes dropping each week
<v Speaker 1>starting on October twenty second. It's priced at thirty dollars
<v Speaker 1>for the full season or forty dollars for the deluxe
<v Speaker 1>version of the full season that includes a digital art
<v Speaker 1>book and four digital comics. You took a look at
<v Speaker 1>this as you get a go, you were able to
<v Speaker 1>see it or what's up?
<v Speaker 2>I did so press embargo for the little preview that
<v Speaker 2>I sat in expired while we were on this call
<v Speaker 2>about one kay ago so I could talk about this
<v Speaker 2>game looks super neat man. So so you play as
<v Speaker 2>this as it mentioned Robert Robertson, great name who used
<v Speaker 2>to be a hero. He used to be like the
<v Speaker 2>Iron Man of this world, mechan man, and he got
<v Speaker 2>his suit taken away from him. The new trailer that
<v Speaker 2>dropped today too or yesterday too, you will have this
<v Speaker 2>and now he's this dispatcher of this right of this
<v Speaker 2>like so these superheroes and he tell and you're basically
<v Speaker 2>assigning superheroes certain jobs based on their personality traits. So
<v Speaker 2>like if you have someone who is really strong, you're
<v Speaker 2>gonna want to send them to lift a car off someone.
<v Speaker 2>If you have someone who can fly, you want to
<v Speaker 2>get a cat out of a tree. Right, They're not
<v Speaker 2>like big jobs, they're just neat. They need superheroes to
<v Speaker 2>do these jobs. But then eventually you may have one
<v Speaker 2>of them ask you for assistance, and then you patch
<v Speaker 2>into the building that they're in and you get different
<v Speaker 2>perspectives from different cameras and you can.
<v Speaker 1>Help to republic.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you can hack into those cameras through a
<v Speaker 2>little hacking. Mini game reminded me of human revolution, whether
<v Speaker 2>you like that or not, that's what it was. And
<v Speaker 2>then you would go to the scene, would shift to
<v Speaker 2>a different camera, and there's another hero in there. There
<v Speaker 2>are a villain in there, and you have to alert
<v Speaker 2>your hero that they're there, walk them through, tell them
<v Speaker 2>where they might be. Your choices affect what happens in
<v Speaker 2>the battle, so on and so forth. I don't want
<v Speaker 2>to I don't want to know what the branching storyline
<v Speaker 2>looks like with that final poster. Looks like it's probably immense,
<v Speaker 2>but it it looks it just like it had a
<v Speaker 2>lot of very interesting aspects to it, more than just
<v Speaker 2>the telltale dialogue choices right, Like the the dispatch screen
<v Speaker 2>where you have your I think it's like eight different
<v Speaker 2>heroes listed here. One of them is a batman. His
<v Speaker 2>name is Sonar. One of them is like he's a
<v Speaker 2>he's a a fire he uses fire, but he's also
<v Speaker 2>like very attractive. His name is Flom bay b A.
<v Speaker 1>I love that.
<v Speaker 2>Uh, And like, so you're you're dispatching them to these places.
<v Speaker 2>Things can happen on the way. You have a map
<v Speaker 2>of the city that shows you, like where there, it's
<v Speaker 2>it's it just looks really really neat. I'm very I
<v Speaker 2>was excited for you anyway, because I love Telltale games.
<v Speaker 2>I always did. But this extra little layer of strategy elements,
<v Speaker 2>like they're saying and hacking and and how it's feed
<v Speaker 2>into the story I think is very very cool. And
<v Speaker 2>also I like their episodic structure. Yes it is eight episodes,
<v Speaker 2>but it's two episodes a week for four weeks. Bang
<v Speaker 2>bang bang bang. That. Yes, that's how it should be
<v Speaker 2>done from now on. I remember The Walking Dead taking
<v Speaker 2>three months per episode. I remember it being very frustrating.
<v Speaker 2>This is the way to do it. And also too,
<v Speaker 2>as Chat reminds me, I should talk about that the
<v Speaker 2>canse list is nothing to sneeze at, right, So you
<v Speaker 2>have Aaron Paul is the one guy. Jeffrey Wright isn't
<v Speaker 2>here as well. Yeah, you have a lot of peers
<v Speaker 2>doing voices. You have moist Critical doing voice, Jack Septicay
<v Speaker 2>doing a voice, a couple other names that I wasn't
<v Speaker 2>entirely familiar with. I think thought Squad is one of
<v Speaker 2>them that's over my head. But a very Laura Bailey
<v Speaker 2>is in it at Matt Mercer. I keep forgetting those
<v Speaker 2>two names, but they're in there as well. It just
<v Speaker 2>it pressed every button when I saw this, when I
<v Speaker 2>sat it on this and watch the trailer. Seems really
<v Speaker 2>cool and I am I'm really pulling for it. October
<v Speaker 2>twenty second, definitely circled, going to play those first two episodes,
<v Speaker 2>going to play them all and see where it takes me.
<v Speaker 2>Keep it on your radar. So I'm going to say
<v Speaker 2>that the demo was pretty cool.
<v Speaker 1>I'm also a fan of many of the Telltale games.
<v Speaker 1>I like any sort of game where you play in
<v Speaker 1>your head and that's where the decisions happen, and it's
<v Speaker 1>like you're like people are like, hey, you know, but
<v Speaker 1>these things with all these paths sometimes they lead to
<v Speaker 1>the same point. It's like, yeah, you're not supposed to
<v Speaker 1>be worried about that. You're supposed to be worried about
<v Speaker 1>how you feel about the choices you're making. And if
<v Speaker 1>the game does that, then it's successful. And if you
<v Speaker 1>go try to find the branching path to like see
<v Speaker 1>what's the perfect way of doing something, like, you're just
<v Speaker 1>kind of not playing it the way it's meant to
<v Speaker 1>be played. So it's yeah, and now this sounds like
<v Speaker 1>it's got even more going on. I'll check this out.
<v Speaker 1>Sounds very for sure. All Right, that does it for
<v Speaker 1>the headlines. Before we get to the poll question, Chris
<v Speaker 1>Kish super chat here says Live daily Gaming news is
<v Speaker 1>still new to me and I love it. Thank you guys,
<v Speaker 1>keep working hard. We will Chris Kish and Joel has
<v Speaker 1>a reporting request chat here. Will we be able to
<v Speaker 1>play Metroid Prime four on the Virtual Boy peripheral move
<v Speaker 1>over Half Life Alex, Look, you can do whatever you want.
<v Speaker 1>There's a way to find out how to do that.
<v Speaker 1>Would that work probably the first person? Right?
<v Speaker 2>No, yeah, but it's like it's not going to be yeah,
<v Speaker 2>maybe not.
<v Speaker 1>You would have to like sort of hack it. Maybe
<v Speaker 1>even you'd have to hack it a physically, like add
<v Speaker 1>a new lens to like send the one screen out
<v Speaker 1>to both lenses separately in some way, and set of mirrors.
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I'm already trying to engineer something here.
<v Speaker 2>Just isolate yourself in the virtual boy alone.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you could just like put it in a cardboard
<v Speaker 1>box and put your head in the cardboard box. That's
<v Speaker 1>that's maybe the move right there, Joel. We'll get to
<v Speaker 1>work on that and try to find out what we
<v Speaker 1>can find for you. All right, we have a pull
<v Speaker 1>question to get to one from Monday. I have the
<v Speaker 1>results over here. I should just go ahead and refresh
<v Speaker 1>to make sure they're fully updated. All right, let's see here,
<v Speaker 1>what game do you want most from a somniac after Wolverine?
<v Speaker 1>Your options were Venom, New Spider Man, X Men, New Ratchet,
<v Speaker 1>and Clink. I'm gonna go ahead and vote for a
<v Speaker 1>new Ratchet and Clink myself to get the results here.
<v Speaker 1>Nine percent said a New spider Man, eleven percent said Venom,
<v Speaker 1>and then forty percent said both this is a tie
<v Speaker 1>X Men and the new or a new Ratchet Clink
<v Speaker 1>not the new as if one exists, so people were
<v Speaker 1>really excited for either like either really new or going
<v Speaker 1>back to the old Spider Man. I think people are like, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>that's like I would love it, but that's well trodden ground,
<v Speaker 1>and even Venoms like, yeah, we've got to play us
<v Speaker 1>amain Spider Man two. How do you feel about this?
<v Speaker 1>Where do you want Insomniac to go?
<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't mind seeing them branch out a little bit.
<v Speaker 2>I completely understand the nine percent new Spider Man. They
<v Speaker 2>want to see them something do something different. That makes
<v Speaker 2>perfect sense to me. I wouldn't mind Venom. I think
<v Speaker 2>Venom was one of the cool reports of Spider Man two.
<v Speaker 2>But I also so really like the idea of an
<v Speaker 2>X Men like take whatever the co op idea was
<v Speaker 2>from the Spider Man game that was shelved and turned
<v Speaker 2>that into an X Men game that that could be neat.
<v Speaker 2>I think that would be a really cool idea. They
<v Speaker 2>also I think Sony does Sony still have the X
<v Speaker 2>Men publishing rights like they do with Spider Man when
<v Speaker 2>it comes to movies and stuff like that or games,
<v Speaker 2>I guess in this case too.
<v Speaker 1>So it's a little bit different. So like for movies
<v Speaker 1>for Spider Man, Sony has both, and it's a little
<v Speaker 1>bit limited for video games where it's just like the
<v Speaker 1>big style video game for X Men that they were
<v Speaker 1>that was Fox, So that's now over at Disney for movies.
<v Speaker 1>For video games, it's bounced around a bunch. But they
<v Speaker 1>clearly do have X Men for this next Insomniac game.
<v Speaker 1>It seems like that's where it is now, and that
<v Speaker 1>that was from the leaks. So they have not confirmed
<v Speaker 1>that publicly still, but they made I mean, they are
<v Speaker 1>making a Wolverine game, so they do. They are working
<v Speaker 1>in the X Men stuff. We know that for sure,
<v Speaker 1>and now it sounds like they have the universe beyond
<v Speaker 1>Wolverine as well.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, then yeah, X Men would be my choice.
<v Speaker 2>I think, oh yeah, I think that we are probably
<v Speaker 2>a little bit ways.
<v Speaker 1>I think what we get next after Wolverine is Venom,
<v Speaker 1>and then we get probably X Men, and then maybe
<v Speaker 1>a ratchet and Clank at some point on the PS
<v Speaker 1>six way down the line overdrive too.
<v Speaker 2>How about that?
<v Speaker 1>Any minute? Now check in my watch any minute? All right,
<v Speaker 1>we have a new poll question. We will get to
<v Speaker 1>it here in a second. Before we do that, though,
<v Speaker 1>Jason FONELI why don't you tell people where they can
<v Speaker 1>find you on the internet, what you have going on
<v Speaker 1>and all that good stuff.
<v Speaker 2>Jasonfinelli dot com on Blue Sky, big Man, Finelle, everywhere else.
<v Speaker 2>I am writing news at game Spot, writing reviews at MMO,
<v Speaker 2>RPG dot com. I will be in Atlanta next week
<v Speaker 2>for Magic Con. Come find me with your commander Decks.
<v Speaker 2>Would love to get a game in with you. Throughout
<v Speaker 2>the weekend. I have guarded posting, as I mentioned at
<v Speaker 2>the top of the show on my personal YouTube channel,
<v Speaker 2>just things that come to mind, inspired by one Jeff
<v Speaker 2>Grubb and his monologues that he does from time to time.
<v Speaker 2>If you watch the first one, thank you, and I
<v Speaker 2>apologize for recording it at twelve thirty am. That's why
<v Speaker 2>I seem like I was a little sluggish. Probably shouldn't
<v Speaker 2>have done that. Next one should be going up today.
<v Speaker 2>I have an interview with a very cool developer about
<v Speaker 2>a very cool game right after this at the bottom
<v Speaker 2>of the hour, and I'm going to edit that and
<v Speaker 2>post it, trying to have that done by the end
<v Speaker 2>of today. I'm very excited to talk about that. You
<v Speaker 2>come check that out when I post it. Other than that,
<v Speaker 2>just you know, vibing, because that's what we do. It's
<v Speaker 2>coming up to October baseball. My team is in and
<v Speaker 2>every time I go to sleep, they're losing, And every
<v Speaker 2>time I wake up, they've won the game on this
<v Speaker 2>westone trip so far.
<v Speaker 1>Thank it's a good sign.
<v Speaker 2>Listen, listen, Dodgers fans. Dodgers fans, Dodgers fans, ask, tell
<v Speaker 2>me why Dave Roberts takes out Otani in the fifth
<v Speaker 2>inning during a no hitter. Why did he do that?
<v Speaker 2>Why did you do that? Because the next picture gave
<v Speaker 2>up five runs.
<v Speaker 1>They're probably numbers say that's what we do. Now, let's say,
<v Speaker 1>oh boy.
<v Speaker 2>Rop it anyway. But yeah, So it's it's playoff baseball time. Man.
<v Speaker 2>And if you thought I was nuts during the Super
<v Speaker 2>Bowl that was one three hour game, imagine what the
<v Speaker 2>entire month of October is gonna look like for me.
<v Speaker 2>If this team makes deep run, it's uh, it's it's
<v Speaker 2>gonna be. Next time you talk to me mid October, probably.
<v Speaker 1>Like, hey, Jeff's I've seen some shit ation But all right,
<v Speaker 1>new pole question. Are you ready for Hades too? Yes
<v Speaker 1>or no? I'm trying to get ready. I'm like I did,
<v Speaker 1>I got credits in Silk Song, but there's still a
<v Speaker 1>lot I when I'm actually doing that game. Uh, but
<v Speaker 1>Hades two is calling. It's ready to go here very soon.
<v Speaker 1>We're talking like what eight days something like that. That
<v Speaker 1>it's rough stuff. But maybe maybe I'll be ready at
<v Speaker 1>that point. I don't. I don't know how I'll actually
<v Speaker 1>end up answering this pool. We'll see, Sada. Is that
<v Speaker 1>a game you're more likely to play than Silk Song
<v Speaker 1>Hades two?
<v Speaker 2>Yes, I have become very much into the Roague Lights.
<v Speaker 2>I like the games like that, so and a Haites
<v Speaker 2>one is incredible, So yes, bring me Hades too. I
<v Speaker 2>have waited. I have not touched any of the early
<v Speaker 2>access I have not I haven't had a time. But
<v Speaker 2>when this thing comes out, I'm now realizing it will
<v Speaker 2>come out the week it comes out next week, right,
<v Speaker 2>So next week I have something to play on the
<v Speaker 2>flight to Atlanta.
<v Speaker 1>May go Yeah, all right, perfect, All right, So we
<v Speaker 1>got that out of the way. We're gonna get the
<v Speaker 1>results of that poll on tomorrow's episode of Game Mess
<v Speaker 1>Mornings here on Giant Bomb. Speaking of Giant Bomb, we
<v Speaker 1>have plenty of going on Lego Voyagers. Me and Jan
<v Speaker 1>are gonna play that. It's you with me, right, Jan,
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna play that later today here, not too long
<v Speaker 1>after Game Mess mornings. It'll be between that and of
<v Speaker 1>course light Club returning. We're doing that, and we bring
<v Speaker 1>up to count to make sure we have our time. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>two pm Eastern for Light Club. Could be the last
<v Speaker 1>episode of Virtual Highlight. Might not be. Honestly, it's hard
<v Speaker 1>to tell, but myke he continues to make some progress.
<v Speaker 1>We're not exactly sure what he's going to need to
<v Speaker 1>complete his quest there, but the very least you can
<v Speaker 1>come and root on, Sir Mitchell lot at two pm.
<v Speaker 1>I'm looking forward to it, and then you know, if
<v Speaker 1>he does finish it, then we got Dan's game ready
<v Speaker 1>to go, So look forward to find out a little
<v Speaker 1>bit more of a tease about what that could be.
<v Speaker 1>All right, got that out of the way, Jason Fanilli,
<v Speaker 1>thank you so much for hanging out with me today
<v Speaker 1>and talk about video games. Man, I really appreciate it.
<v Speaker 2>It is always a pleasure. Jeff, thank you for having
<v Speaker 2>me and for putting up with my bullshit.
<v Speaker 1>Thank you all for listening and watching. You are the
<v Speaker 1>best audience in gaming. Until next time, have a good one,
<v Speaker 1>take care of yourself and goodbye.