Osef-NO She Didn’t! RHOP Recap

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Speaker 1: Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King.

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Speaker 2: I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your favorite shows from the Real Housewives of Atlanta, New Jersey and my own creation, The Love and Marriage Franchise and Bell Collective. Every episode we recap reality television from the Real Housewives Franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset, in addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or scripted as well.

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Speaker 1: All right, so let's.

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Speaker 2: Get it to the latest episode of the Real Housewives of Potomac. So the episode picked off, I mean picked up, excuse me, where they left off, which is Angel in a very peculiar mercurial situation where she where she is.

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Speaker 1: Trying to explain the fact that she has to leave Potomac.

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Speaker 2: And go back to Colorado. I can't wait to hear you all thoughts. I'll just talk about saying this. I thought Angel looked very uncomfortable in that whole party, Like even when they were playing the games and doing like the you know the games they were doing, if you looked at it, she was like off to the side. And I was in that very moment. I literally watched the show and said, this is what I mean when I say you just may not fit in, like you don't like you're not even trying to fit in by taking advantage of them having fun. And that's when I was like, you can't make excuses by I don't like drama. Okay, fine, that's whatever. They're actually having fun and you not even participating and smiling, and she just looked very uncomfortable.

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Speaker 1: That's what I have to add to that before you guys take it away.

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Speaker 2: So Dustins, what do you have to say about Angel's explanation to the girls about her living situation?

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Speaker 3: Wow, I gotta go first. You you know, she don't like my ass. She her husband's gonna jump on me and ship. You know what I'm saying, you know, So here I go. Right. Look, I thought that it was so funny to see I thought it was so funny to see Angel, you know, be obviously frustrated. She don't like the Angel don't like. She can't stand me. You know what I'm saying. I told you when it come to me, she turned into Hell's Angels, bad to the bone, and ship. You know, Sturge is jacket on and ship. She's gonna ride a motorcycle down on me, getting mercurial vo do, yeah, poking holes in it. I wonder why I woke up with a pain, you know what I'm saying. The distress this one. But here's the thing, right, I had high hopes for Angel when we first started talking about season ten of this damn show. I told y'all, I said, Yo, Angel has got it going on. She got what it takes. Her family was really in the film big ass House, you know what I'm saying, Like she just chilling. Her and Kate got a real relationship. Everything I thought has turned out to be different. Right. That don't mean she had to fall flat or whatever, but it turns out like she has. And I just thought this was another example of, like, Damn, Angel, this is what you choose to do. She gets to the what do you call it, a field day, a field afternoon, whatever that event was. It didn't make no damn sense. Boots and cowboys or I don't know what the fuck it was called, but it was just cheap balloons and a bunch of foil chafing dishes with the little fire thing underneath them. Stern old that's what it was called. Anyway, So you know, what I'm saying at this thing or whatever? Angel instead again with the program. She's actually answering the question of whether or not she got evicted, Don't you know? All she had to do was sit at that table and be like, why are we even asking me if I'm evicted? As if me and my man are broke, y'all really want to talk about money at this table, and went down the line and just wore the whole table out. That's all she has to do. But you know what she does. She sits there at the table and she says, she's obviously frustrated. She goes, what did she say to Wendy? So so sorry I didn't get evicted? Girl, you know what I'm saying like that or whatever? Then she then then she saunters over to the field, stands on the field talking to Tea surly and grumbling, talking to Tea all surly, like, yeah, she I can't believe ask me if I'm going to get evicted.

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Speaker 4: Sounds like her.

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Speaker 3: Toss a bomb with you come on, just once again choosing to have a delayed response, a delayed reaction, you know, and everything's just going to hell. My hope is that by next week when we go to Colorado, we see something. That's all. I just hope at least once we get to Colorado where her roots are planted, where she feels more comfortable, where she knows the layer of the land, and you know, and it's happier. I hope, you know, I really hope the glass is half full next week. That's all I got to say about that scene.

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Speaker 5: But the previous she's already like not letting them at her house and she's like, I don't want y'all's energy at my place.

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Speaker 3: Listen.

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Speaker 5: I've been trying to hold back and root for her, especially since I had on my show, so I don't want to see fake you know what I mean. But it's exhausting and it is given ere from winning the pool, you know, the one that's always sad. What's the little carts?

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Speaker 4: But if you are and Daria had a baby, it's like Daria slash or.

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Speaker 5: Always ad, like she's always mad inside. I'm like, yo, bro.

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Speaker 3: And there was Polly with the nigga with the blanket from Charlie Brown or a blanket from Charlie Brown.

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Speaker 5: Smells of the Blindings. We just want you to have fun, Angel. We just wanted to be fun like and let go. I get it's annoying. Reality TV could be annoying, especially when you're the new girls. They are definitely hating you, but you're like the way they hate it was hazing safety, but she's been around for a minute. But she let it roll for back and that's why she won. Like you're not you won't like you gotta less something that's your go, my dear, like because it's taken away from you got the brad, you got the husband, you got all the stuff that like the makings, but like the inability to never let anything go is given. It's crazy. It's crazy. What what noise that you are making?

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Speaker 6: I have a theory of angel I sincerely from watching her and just watching so many shows about Wags. I think angel is I've said this before. I think she's the mean girl who's used to people being nice to her because of status, finding out in real time that she's actually popping. She never had to develop a personality because Wags, based on Bobbie started for ten years. You know, that's her entry level. She's used to being treated with a certain level of respect that she hasn't earned, and she mistook that for her being popping, and now she's on the show where she's finding out in real time how lame she is in real time and doesn't know how to pivot because in her mind she never conceived of this. She thought that she was gonna be Gazelle's second in command because now that what's the one with the masculine with the voice, what's her name?

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Speaker 3: Robin?

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Speaker 4: There we go?

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Speaker 6: She thought Robin was gone, Gazelle needs her a new greed I bandit. She thought that she was gonna slip right in with Gazelle because she likes the whole aka meinger energy. Mind you, I love the akas and and I'm happy that Gizelle did not become her sorority sister in that way, because she thought that it was gonna be, oh, these pretty girls are gonna take me in like the Wags did. And Zelle was like, no, this is a whole different franchise. And and and can I be honest, there's a thing about Angel where I think in her mind, because I think she is a fan, I think she had a fantasy about how this would go, and the minute the fantasy burst, she had no bounce back.

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Speaker 4: And so she's.

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Speaker 1: I keep going interrupt you.

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Speaker 6: She had a dream about me and Gazelle and maybe actually sometimes we're gonna be the hot girls and we're gonna go aft the Wendy and the losers, and like she had this whole sexy fantasy, and Gazelle just clowned her for about three episodes and called her a catfish. And you would have thought that she said that that your babies were adopted. She acted like Gazelle saying you're a catfish was the worst thing that ever happened in life, because she has Gazelle on this pedestal. Right, And so I think she's a mean girl who transferred to a school where nobody thinks she's popping.

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Speaker 4: She can't make fat happen. I don't think she has social anxiety.

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Speaker 6: I think in a room full of people who cared that Bobby was starting for ten years, she would have been the ball, that goddamn ball I would have thought she earned. It was because she didn't have social anxiety when she was skimming that thirty.

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Speaker 5: K allegedly not scamming, scamming, she.

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Speaker 4: Anxiety.

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Speaker 3: I don't know nothing about that. What I do know about right is I think this is what's so frustrating for me about Angel, right, It is because I think that when she's being herself, she does actually have an interesting personality. She does a friend that you're wanting to kick it with and talk shit with. And so when we get those little glimpses into that, like she like we got when she was fully comfortable being mean to Stacey, saying Stacey's breath stinking smell like shit, you know, and she was laughing with everybody else on the cast laughing, and she was talking about it. It was a little high, you know what I'm saying. That was fine, And but when she did that, we got to see her personality. She was funny. Fast forward to the scene. Fast forward to the scene when she sat down with her sister and she was expressing her frustrations about the ladies on the cast, and her sister had a vibrant personality and that was something for Angel to bounce off of. And she was funny. She was interesting to watch. That's why for me, I'm just gonna speak for myself. That's why when I see her just sizzling out and so tepid in these other scenes, it makes it like, Yo, why are you so lukewarm and just flat in these scenes when that's not really what yours. When you appear most genuine, most nonpensive, you know what I'm saying, when we feel like you've really been yourself, you don't be on this bullshit talking about some is mercurial, you know what I'm saying. So that's why it's so frustrating.

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Speaker 6: Did you hear where you said she's with her popping sister. Yeah, she's in a familiar environment. When Angel somebody else is making her feel comfortable, she can be popping because there's been a love of playing field. When she's starting at zero. She doesn't have a she's not a self starter. Some people in this world are popping when they're around people that they feel safe with and when they're a familiar dynamic, But the minute you put them somewhere foreign, they have no bounce back.

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Speaker 5: In radio, they have a they call it the conversation starter. That's the A character and then the B character responder that would be the co host. And you can't, like you're not allowed to start, you're not allowed to bring people to break. You have to like just be the responder. And I feel like she's more comfortable when she's being mean, but she's I don't actually mind her being mean, because that's actually what you mean. I will lean in. But it's like when a mean girl is like trying to be nice, like when she was in the jewelry store and she's like, oh my god, I would imagine ten years ago that shit was so boring and fake. But hey, Angel, we're saying you have what it takes, but you kind of I think you're on the fence about whether or not you want to commit to being like the shit talking mean girl or the nice girl. And I think you're in your head too much, where a lot of a lot of actresses that go on reality TV are like this. They're in their head too much, Carls, you know, and they think about it, they overthink it, and they're like, well, I don't want them to think. Well, I don't want them. You gotta like not be like that. You just gotta be when you just bet and let the cameras catch the magic, then you'll fucking you'll win. But you're in your head too much. You're trying to self edit, and I think if you just let the chop a fly, Angel and just talk your shit, like when you do the beach. People are responding to it. And that's the same thing Kenya Moore did. Ken You Moore came on the show trying to be a little nice. They fucking came for her, and guess what. Soon as she found out being a villain was good for her, she leaned in every time. And people I knowver know that she's given us good TV. Right, She's not evil, She's given us good TV. She leaned into it. Angel, lean into it. Stop worrying about what they're gonna say about you, and look, treat it as you on a telenovela you're in. You're like, you gotta treat reality like that sometimes, like you know, like just stop worrying about it. Stop like just I'm at work, like.

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Speaker 1: Actually good advice?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Like and I hate I hate when I see people do that shit. Oh this been some people. I was talking about doing the show here and like one of my friends was too much, like but I don't want I just I don't. Oh my god, Then get out of here. Then this is not for you.

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Speaker 1: Don't join the show.

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Speaker 2: No, Dustin, that's it's real and listen and listen.

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Speaker 1: This isn't an angel.

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Speaker 2: Paulov because you almost so funny when when we talked about me and last season, y'all you know, joined in the thing with Angel that we're doing. Once again, we're only talking about we're singing the show. But secondly, this is great critique. I'm gonna do a PSA right now today. Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukkah, Kwanza, Happy New Year. Do not sign up because once again, this isn't like the army where you're being drafted. Okay, because you're eighteen years old and you signed on to stop.

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Speaker 3: You have to do it.

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Speaker 1: You don't have to do it. You actually don't have to do it. It bothers me with people during reality TV.

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Speaker 3: And they they they they.

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Speaker 2: Don't want to be them sins or when they when they when they tell producers or you know, Qualitia x Y.

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Speaker 4: And z Oh for real, I don't know that.

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Speaker 1: How about you bring it up.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna bring it up because I'm not about to be seen as a messy bitch.

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Speaker 1: But you actually.

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Speaker 2: Get get that's pay this would happen to reality television.

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Speaker 1: Get someone else to do it and I'll chime in what or I signed on to do this show because I want to show.

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Speaker 2: Something different to the world who ask you you're not really Gilbert in a different world.

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Speaker 1: I want you here.

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Speaker 5: I just want to my business and show positive women on earth.

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Speaker 2: Yeah business, go joint shark.

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Speaker 1: I can introduce you to em mcgurny, who does scams. Stop signing off Stop it's a reality.

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Speaker 2: Television is the only profession where you can get away with giving.

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Speaker 1: The least because you want to feel like this is too real. I want to show something different.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to bring that up because so and so zero six two is gonna.

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Speaker 1: Say this about me, then leave the show. And when you leave the show, I'm gonna end with saying this.

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Speaker 2: When you leave the show and you miss the fame, because again you do miss it, what do you do? Knock knock and you try to come back, That's what happens. So once again, it's a tough gig. That's why I stand for it. This is great advice. If you do not want to be yourself, don't sign on it bothers everybody, including the audience and including the people watching it. And what you're not gonna do is try to flip it and say you guys are bashing me.

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Speaker 1: We're literally talking about what you showed on the show.

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Speaker 2: When you listen to a Beyonce record and you don't like a song, you're not bashing Beyonce. You're saying, I don't like this song, and it's okay to have an opinion.

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Speaker 1: So move on from that.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 1: That's my PSA for day now.

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Speaker 5: If you don't want to, I'm sorry real quick. One last line if you your at top of mind is I don't want people to think dot dot dot reality, singing, acting, dancing, comedy is not for you.

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Speaker 3: It's not ye Tonight, y'all have had me cracking up tonight. Carlo's gonna say that. People tell you, oh show to show so different. Nobody you.

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Speaker 4: I didn't do a Catholic coffee.

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Speaker 1: If you would like to sound to be on x y Z and show something.

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Speaker 2: Different, nobody you yeah, man and said, hey, my pop pis on black effects.

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Speaker 1: I just feel like you need something different on your I don't need your croons.

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Speaker 3: O my god.

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Speaker 2: I can go to own and say I think I got yall to fix my life and everything. But baby, I'm trying to shigure a little, a little something different.

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Speaker 4: Who are you?

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Speaker 1: No one gets away with that anyway. But what what what does apparently get.

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Speaker 2: Away is you're kissing someone's son who is twenty seven years old. Ashley Darby revealed to Cheris Jordan Jackson that she made out with her twenty seven year old. She said that she was in a very mercurial situation where first of.

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Speaker 5: All, your house stopped running this goddamn word to the ground because before last three weeks ago, I've never used it with my friends, have never been used my presence. I've heard the word before because i did win the spell from the fifth grade. But I'm just saying I'm sick of his goddamn words, not letting angel angel.

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Speaker 3: Is.

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Speaker 1: Actually I'm just saying, I'm just saying.

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Speaker 2: So Ashley made out with her friends.

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Speaker 1: Now the son is twenty.

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Speaker 2: Seven years old, and she said that, you know, he knocked on the door, she opened it up, she had to get something, and then he leaned into her. They made out and I'm like, all right, a kiss whatever.

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Speaker 1: But then she made a comment and she's telling this to the boy's mother.

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Speaker 2: She then made a comment where she said, and if it did it in at.

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Speaker 1: The kiss, would you be upset?

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Speaker 2: Intimating that allegedly allegedly allegedly that Ashley was intimate with Charisse Jordan Jackson's.

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Speaker 7: Son Claudia Jordan. What are your thoughts?

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Speaker 2: And for the record, for the record, for the record, for the record, thank you. He's twenty seven, Ashley's thirty seven. It's a tenure age difference, which ain't nothing. But is it weird to be kissing the son of your girlfriend who you watch grow up as a teenager.

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Speaker 5: Yes, listen, in the wild, you can date someone ten years old, someone ten years ago. You can make out with someone ten years younger, but your friend's son. I mean, you make jokes with your You may make a joke with your friend like he don't send your son over here to bring up the groceres or whatever, but you don't really go make out with them and let them second. I don't know what they did. Some I don't know if someone's gonna suck the lick or someone. I don't know what the hell happened. I'm I'm saying it's weird as hell and be on TV about it, Ashley. Come on, Ashley, I know you're having a hot girl season, but this one should have kept I would have kept that to myself. I mean putting that on TV, like you messing with your friend's son. I don't know. That's I don't know, y'all what y'all think? Could y'all do that? You mess with your friend's son?

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Speaker 2: Wait, so they're saying these are two comments. He also confirmed and watch What Happens Live that it did go further.

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Speaker 5: So what happened was like a little finger banging?

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Speaker 3: Was this?

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Speaker 6: Wow?

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Speaker 1: Wow wow wow baby, stop using fingers again.

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Speaker 4: Merry Christmas, y'all please not be died. Huh oh my god.

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Speaker 5: This is the season to be as you not being a whore. But I'm just saying the judgments a little off, like being with your friend's son is crazy because like when it goes bad and she's on your friends circle, you're gonna complain to your friend your son ain't calling me back? Sound crazy?

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Speaker 1: Your son calling me back? Okay? So Blue, Blue, what.

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Speaker 2: Is going on in this situation in your eyes that you're seeing with Ashley telling Charies to her face what was going on? But before before you do speak, I do I do have a Lizzy note?

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Speaker 3: Mayor Christmas?

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Speaker 2: Hey, Lizzie, So I do have a a Lizzy note. Chares made a comment based on that scene going viral, and this is what Teresa had to say. Claudia, Blue and Dustin and Blue, I want you to speak, she said, I honestly did not believe it. One thing I know for sure is that no matter how I respond, people will take issue. I have been I have not been edited to represent my real personality over the years. At this point, I'm sixty. I want to pop in and have fun with these ladies. I don't mind meaningful conversations, but to flip out just for the cameras over fake or petty issue is not my thing. She ends by saying, I can now see the disrespect. At the time of filming, I did not believe it. One thing I do know for certain is that there are no real friendships in this business.

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Speaker 3: Booe Tomato, Tomato delayed reaction. That's the same shit Ange will be doing. Beat it. You said that you sit there at the table and let this lady's say she was messing with your son and you was laughing at her. I ain't drinking your drink and didn't say nothing. So now that the Internet had been on your ass and you feel you watch that back and you feel embarrassed that you didn't say nothing. Stand up for yourself and for your son. In that case you feel you feel like you played yourself. We don't give a fuck. We don't want to hear that. As far as you being sixty, that don't mean nothing. But you just known better, That's what I mean. Oh, I don't know what that's what she did sitting at that table. Now for my bad could bluish your turn? Go ahead, friend, I'm sorry. I'm so sorry. I did not mean to jump on you like that.

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Speaker 4: You did that. I feel nicer now.

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Speaker 3: No, not bad, I just I'm so sorry your head, sirs.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna just say this.

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Speaker 6: Ashley Darby is used to inappropriate relationship, romantic relationships, and age dynamics, so she tends to either, from what I've seen on the show in the many years, date men who are like the father who wouldn't raise her, or who look like her son who she's shrying to raise, and so inappropriate age dynamics with Ashley Darby's nothing new. I'm not papa, can you hear me? I think she likes the inequity, so I'm not surprised. She also has no storyline, So if you are desperate for a storyline, and you, you know, have a fashion show with no fashions. You're gonna stay with every sensational thing you can in order to be relevant, and here you are still irrelevant. So none of it is shocking to me. I do think I I think.

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Speaker 4: That she had a hungry, hot girl moment and probably huns on that man. I wouldn't be surprised. He doesn't beautiful boy.

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Speaker 6: Sure he's a beautiful boy, he doesn't seem all that quick. So I do believe actually was probably the one who might have been the aggressor in this situation. He's just kind of like, hey, it's like it's very He's no mental giant, right. And the thing is, she tends to pick younger men who are kind of easy to drag by the by the by the neck line, or older man who play a father role.

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Speaker 4: So I'm seeing a pattern.

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Speaker 6: Just like that guy that she broke up with the Chuck E Cheese the previous episode. First, you're breaking up with a man who was like your son at Chuck E Cheese. Now you hunching on Sharesa's son. Actually, enough enough, Okay, it's bad enough that angels trying to be Maya Angelou and Potomac and now you're trying to be the deadler. It's just all too much. It's all very desperate, it's all very sad. Just find you a storyline something nobody wanted to buy. Those T shirts fash again fashion show with no fashions is how I feel about Ashley Darby.

00:25:36
Speaker 4: If you go to her.

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Speaker 6: Website, they got one T shirt that sold out, which means she's all for got to restock the inventory.

00:25:41
Speaker 4: It's just she makes me sad. She needs to go for her own sake. Put her out. Do a kill shot.

00:25:46
Speaker 3: Andy.

00:25:46
Speaker 1: What what is the thing to somebody?

00:25:49
Speaker 4: Go and put them on their misery?

00:25:51
Speaker 5: How much O the T shirts?

00:25:53
Speaker 6: They had no price, baby, because you need you need WordPress. You need to pay your word press and your blue host in order to have commerce. It's just all very sad. GNA is a clothing brand slash Gay Pride Float slash.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

00:26:07
Speaker 6: What's happening with the branding, right, And also I felt like she satu work with clears. Also, actually, I think you're only compelling when you're in drag, but I don't even think you're gay, So even that's a little insulting.

00:26:18
Speaker 5: It's just you think she's fake gay.

00:26:20
Speaker 4: Oh absolutely, I think she might be gay for pay.

00:26:24
Speaker 5: Are you saying she really don't like pussy?

00:26:26
Speaker 4: No, she don't like Lucy Child. She likes attention.

00:26:31
Speaker 5: The Hernady.

00:26:32
Speaker 4: No, she likes attention.

00:26:33
Speaker 6: I'm just saying, Ashley Darby Green, she just angel. I found somebody that annoys me more than you do.

00:26:40
Speaker 4: That's the nicest thing I can think to say.

00:26:42
Speaker 6: I found somebody that annoys me more than you do. She's like spoiled milk that won't leave the fucking carton. But I will say this though, to Carlos's point, at least she's showing up.

00:26:51
Speaker 4: I guess at least she's showing up.

00:26:55
Speaker 2: This is reality with the King, and I'm Carlos King. Let's get back in to the show.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm gonna put it like this, Right, she thirty seven, he twenty seven at the time, what was she thirty six? He was twenty six. That's two consenting adults that made that choice to do what they wanted to do, full stop, Right, Ultimately, that's the end up with full stop, two grown people that did what they wanted to do. Now, how do I personally feel about it? Actually, wrong as hell. Everything about the way the situation went down was fucked up. Her son took your ass home when when you was drunk, fucked up, couldn't drive yourself home, He took you home to make sure y'r drunk ass made it home safe. And what did you do end up getting into some sort of intimate situation with him? Mind you, this season ten of the show actually, and Sharis was both on that show and season one ten years ago he was what seventeen?

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Speaker 5: Thank you?

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Speaker 3: That's twenty seven now if anybody. And now again, they didn't do nothing ten years ago, So I'm not saying she was wrong in that way. I'm just adding those numbers to give this a little bit of context when we look at the ship of why it feels nasty that she messed around with Sharif's son, Ter should have slapped the ship out of Ashley on some real niggas at that table when she told her that she messed around her son, most mamas would have flipped that restaurant over in half yo, yo, that's her kid. And then the way Ashley said what she said to her was weird and creepy. She sat there and said that like mister Burns. She was leaning down and sneering up. Yeah, and you know you fit out went a little further than wouldn't have that tapping her my office ship. She told it like a creep you know what I'm saying. The way she told her it happened was creepy as fuck.

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Speaker 4: She didn't Michaelby, Michael Darby.

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Speaker 3: It was very bad. And so I just to me, on a on a on a on a cold level, you're wrong for messing around with your friend's son.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, wasn't.

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Speaker 3: But what disturbs me even more is the fact that she brought it to the show, because then it looks like you're willing to use what may be some very real feelings that Charisse could develop because of this. Right, you don't really give a fuck how Shari feel about you fucking around with her son. You're willing to use it on the show to get to bring interest to your life. I thought that was weird personally, I thought it was weird.

00:29:31
Speaker 5: Can you not show your buttthole on cameras you come from just open up to well going with the conversation. Yeah, it ain't the age difference, it's the fact that that's your friend's kid, Like, that's hella weird, right, guys, what if.

00:30:00
Speaker 6: She thought that, Okay, I know I'm desperate for relevance, Andreisa is desperate for relevance, so maybe we could do this together.

00:30:05
Speaker 4: Like maybe she thought that Arice wouldn't mind because it would have made them relevance.

00:30:08
Speaker 8: Not too much on Blue, Sari nothing and Blue, look are we in trouble?

00:30:23
Speaker 2: Blue said, Okay, she just wants to pop in and pop out and play with the girls at sixty.

00:30:29
Speaker 3: She did, she said, she said, Look, I'm just sixty. I don't want to be doing all this bullshit. That's what she's saying.

00:30:38
Speaker 4: Not too much on Chi exactly, not too much with I agree.

00:30:43
Speaker 3: Right right, but.

00:30:47
Speaker 4: We're alowed. This is alignment. Yeah, look at that.

00:30:51
Speaker 3: Not too much since relevant, Yeah.

00:30:58
Speaker 2: Y'all anyway, for what Claudia is actually not at the doghouse, but Claudia, I will.

00:31:05
Speaker 1: Say this, Claudia gets recapper of the week because she clocks up the last week Blue and dusted. That was very mercurial.

00:31:16
Speaker 8: Oh, Claudia clocks up the last week that gagged me and does the Blue.

00:31:24
Speaker 1: As I was watching this episode, I said that fucking Claudia Jordan, No, she right.

00:31:30
Speaker 2: So as we are looking into Wendy's scene, Okay, this is wendy renovation of the home.

00:31:40
Speaker 1: I do not want to get this wrong because.

00:31:42
Speaker 2: I want to make sure that I accurately state what occurred.

00:31:47
Speaker 1: Okay, Wendy has renovated her home.

00:31:52
Speaker 2: She talked about how she wants to, you know, build a pool and everything else.

00:31:57
Speaker 1: And when they started talking.

00:31:59
Speaker 2: About number, there was a music cue to highlight exactly the fact that they are talking about money.

00:32:14
Speaker 1: And in that moment, I said, I was watching somebody.

00:32:17
Speaker 2: We both said Claudia was right when the fact that I Claudia, you want they are definitely highlighting all financial conversations that Wendy and Eddie are having, and that was evident in that scene.

00:32:34
Speaker 1: Claudia, take your batty chain. There you go girl.

00:32:39
Speaker 3: Thank you much, regulation, thank you very much.

00:32:42
Speaker 5: I just felt the coming I do predict in the coming episodes they're going to keep leaning into that more and more and more, because why when they they're taking advantage of what's happening in real life. And it's also like a scene that would be not a big deal, that probably wouldn't have made the editing room floor like the cutting room floor, the edited editing. I can't say this shit right, but you know I'm talking about when we edited out like a conversage about the renovations. Yawn, But now not so much because everyone's looking for Oh what do they say? Wait? How much is that? It's very good.

00:33:20
Speaker 6: Now drinking game curials? So next question, an extra question? Has the money expert when the courts and the prosecutor said Wendy and Eddie barely have any money?

00:33:33
Speaker 4: How much is that?

00:33:35
Speaker 3: How like?

00:33:36
Speaker 6: How little does the money have to be for the course to make a statement that?

00:33:39
Speaker 4: Because that confused me a little bit.

00:33:41
Speaker 5: I think it's relative to like your what your monthly output is, you know what I mean, like you save your mortgagees seven thousand dollars and your cards and stuff like that. Is, say your bill's are eleven and you got fifty racks in the bank. That's not money for what you are working with. I don't know what that means though actually with them, you know, I don't know what their overhead is, but I don't know what they said. They had sixty seven credit cards allegedly, so if you're living on credit, which I don't understand that though, because okay, people can come from Wendy and her husband. Let's be very clear, at the end of the day, after all the years she's been on that show, she's at least pulling in seven to fifty okay on the low end.

00:34:21
Speaker 2: She Wait, what are you saying seven hundred and fifty thousand the for each season?

00:34:26
Speaker 3: Are you?

00:34:27
Speaker 1: Are you saying that?

00:34:27
Speaker 3: Yeah?

00:34:28
Speaker 5: Maybe I would say probably at least at least I could be comfortable and say she's at least making six hundred thousands a year. Would you say that's fair? You guys? And as many years six definitely six hundred thousand.

00:34:40
Speaker 4: Eight degrees in the household?

00:34:42
Speaker 5: Yeah, ye had eight degrees. And then he's making money, so you could say the very least the two of them together are pulling a million dollars a year.

00:34:52
Speaker 4: But how much is Eddy Hennessy making though? Mm hm, who's Eddy Hennessey.

00:34:57
Speaker 2: Because allegedly, allegedly that's allegedly Claudia. They're saying that he went by Eddie Hennessy as he was applying for credit cards.

00:35:10
Speaker 1: Is that the case?

00:35:10
Speaker 4: Belore?

00:35:10
Speaker 6: The credit cards were granted to Eddie Hennessy and Pam Oliver.

00:35:15
Speaker 1: And and to piggyback off of that, back off of that.

00:35:19
Speaker 4: Just to update you guys, they did go to court to hear me.

00:35:23
Speaker 2: Okay, they did go to court and according according to the Baltimore Son, a Carol County judge ordered Wendy and her husband to turn over financial records in the case, rejecting the defense argument that the subpoenas were overly brad So again, according to the Baltimore Son, they are saying that Wendy and Eddie.

00:35:59
Speaker 1: How to turn over the financial records.

00:36:04
Speaker 3: I like one of it sucks me too. They really wants to say, Man, this ship looks it looks bad for them. You know, we want the best for them, and the more information that we seem to be giving about their case, it doesn't look good for them in the end. And I really hate to see that because I hope that what they're being accused of is not true. So I don't know, I just I'm holding I hope for them, man, I really am. Do y'all think and Eddie or Pam Oliver and Eddie Hennessy, whoever the hell they are. You know what I'm saying, I'm holding I hope for them because I don't want them to go through no bullshit unnecessarily.

00:36:48
Speaker 5: So do y'all think it's not true? Do y'all think it's true?

00:36:51
Speaker 4: Her mother's making me it's true? Why it would be true? Like the mother scenes?

00:36:57
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, what give me that?

00:37:00
Speaker 4: Yeah?

00:37:01
Speaker 9: But before we get to the mother scene, we have to talk about KK and Greg. Kanna and Greg, Dustin Ross take your batty change. So, as we talked about in the previous episode, we know that Keanna's boyfriend Greg or fiance rather I believe no, they're not engaged.

00:37:25
Speaker 1: Boyfriend Greg to the jewelry store looking for engagement rings with Angel and Kk's mom.

00:37:33
Speaker 2: In this scene, it has been revealed that Kanna is going to move back in with Greg, and Greg gave her a gift and instead of buying an engagement ring, he bought a picture frame.

00:37:53
Speaker 3: He did say to Sue, why are we filming at the jewelry store? If we're not buying jewelry? Why there are fucking other places to film a million? We don't know nothing about Greg other than that he is obviously being a team player on filming day. That's all we know about Greg. I say that to say, there's so much room for them to explore in getting creative with what kind of scenes they film. Keana, who I love and want to continue on this cast, has got to have a conversation with Greg about how he plays into this. You know what I'm saying, Because this whole pursuit of a ring, I feel like that that is unfair to Kana. Why are we so hyper focused on whether or not he and he gets engaged to her or he proposes to her when hell, we don't even know this nigga yet. We ain't seen nothing other than him acting weird last year and now being mister Nice's guy this year. We want to get to know the middle too. He's so busy, he able to buy all these houses and shit and condo. What do you do? Let's see them at work, Let's see some other shit. You know what I'm saying, Like, let's let's tap into something else other than him just doing what I feel is like just a It's just not going to be a fruitless pursuit, right, Like, why are you trying to shape shift into whatever kind of guy these people think you need to be? If you don't what it can't Carlos, you produce Candy's wedding special What did Candy tell Carmen when she had when they decided to part ways professionally. If you don't want to do it, don't do it. You know what I'm saying. You remember that part, don't you, Carlos, and that that is what we need to tell Greg and right Keana, If you don't want to feel that pressure about people cocking your relationship and shit and running a timeline on you, don't do it. Just show you and Greg having a good time. You know what I'm saying that that that's that's how I feel, man. I feel like they just need to be tapped on the show her and told that they don't have to show what these people want to see. You just have to be authentic and have a personality. Let's show that. That's all. Picture frame was stupid as gifting her that picture frame was dumb.

00:40:17
Speaker 2: They were another joke too, by the way. I felt like Claudia, I just want to say, I felt that the picture frame was a gag gift back.

00:40:30
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was everything that's said. I agree with Claudia Jordan.

00:40:35
Speaker 5: I didn't think that she was up on it. I thought she was excited when she opened out that it was gonna at least be a tennis bracelet or a red bracelet or ankle ring or ankle bracelet or something. Don't find me a god damn picture frame from a jewelry store. You better buy me a picture from Target or from something like that. Don't be buying me no picture frame from a jewelry store. That would piss me the fuck off? How dare you? And that's my point.

00:41:01
Speaker 1: But Claudia, that's my point. That's my point. I feel like in real life, in real life, doesn't I think I think Greg is playing play up for.

00:41:10
Speaker 2: The cameras and Keana needs to provide something of her life. I think in real life, I don't see a woman Claudia or Blue receiving a picture frame instead of an engagement ringe. And you're not popping off and slamming that bitch and like throwing against the wall. That's why it was like her reaction to me was it was too too save.

00:41:34
Speaker 5: I felt like she was embarrassed and she was trying to play it off, like you know what she says, their signs.

00:41:39
Speaker 6: Are a terrorist, Yeah, so you know we like frames, that's the house strategy.

00:41:46
Speaker 5: I think she was trying to save face. When she's that's what I got. Did you feel that blue? I felt like she was trying to save face, like it's no biggie, that's you know, it's too sagittaries or whatever the sign was. That's just what we did. No, No, you was mad because you're in the first row, the second week in a row that people played in our faces. First the week before Giselle and Wendy driving g wagons. Did no purchases get made? Then a jewelry store and a god damn picture frame gets bought. Which was it really bought from a jewely store or did you put it in the bag from a juy store and buy a Target? Who knows? But I'm just saying I'm sick of that ship. Don't do that shit us no more. Next time y'all go in the store, god damn it, come out with something and not something that don't go from come from a Julie store. Please not for orange juice. And you know, you know you embarrassed your girl doing that ship by getting her a picture frame, Like it's like, what's like, give you a big box for Christmas and then inside it a smaller box, then a smaller box. Then a small box and think, oh, it's a ring and it's some stupid shiit like.

00:42:53
Speaker 4: No, guys, can we be honest?

00:42:56
Speaker 6: I have a strange niggling feeling is using vocabulary.

00:43:02
Speaker 4: Where its TONI, yes, look it up, it's a word.

00:43:09
Speaker 6: I have a niggling feeling that this is a scheme that Kiana set up.

00:43:12
Speaker 4: Listen, stick with me for a second. Imagine assically nineteen forty.

00:43:16
Speaker 5: I went back and watched a little bit of g E.

00:43:25
Speaker 4: Of the Day the day, So I have.

00:43:27
Speaker 6: A niggling feeling because last season, because I did go back, Kiana was getting clowned a lot last season for being a gorgeous woman chasing a dusty man who rejected her.

00:43:39
Speaker 4: Right, what, yes, what I told you?

00:43:45
Speaker 5: What if?

00:43:46
Speaker 6: The original scheme was this season you gotta show them that you you really f with me and that you didn't really reject me, And so they agreed.

00:43:57
Speaker 4: He agreed with.

00:43:58
Speaker 6: Her that the whole point was I'm gonna have a redemption arc this season to show that you and I have.

00:44:04
Speaker 4: A reciprocal relationship.

00:44:06
Speaker 6: And she didn't realize he's still cheap though, so she's thinking, we have the scheme that this is your redemption arc. You're gonna do things along with my other alias angel to show up.

00:44:17
Speaker 4: But she's gonna use her Maya Angela voice. I remember, you know, back in the.

00:44:20
Speaker 6: Day when you guys were and you know, do the whole thing that she did was my Angela voice. Y'all gonna redeem my relationship. But unfortunately for her, Gregg he's he's still dusty, and so that that picture frame moment when she's thinking today it's gonna be a thing. I do agree with Claudia as a woman, but she thought she was gonna get something along with their plan to make her feel redeemed, and when she got the picture frame, she had to save face because they had agreed this was the Redemption Arc season. So I actually think they wanted to go to the jewelry store because it was part of his redemption arc.

00:44:51
Speaker 4: But he just keeps on deviating from the plan and she has to save face.

00:44:54
Speaker 5: So here he said, I gotta move some stuff around my credit cards and he can't. Man all might stop saying that, like it's giving excuses, like if.

00:45:01
Speaker 6: They're in on it together. I actually think they're in on it together, That's.

00:45:04
Speaker 2: What I was saying, But I don't think at all that she was a probably by the picture frame.

00:45:10
Speaker 6: He lied to her, Carlos, he lied to her. He made her feel like I actually am going to step up. And she's finding like Angel, she's finding out in real time that she is dustier than she thought.

00:45:20
Speaker 3: There ain't no way in hell a woman as successful as Keana Stewart, as beautiful as Kiana Steward, and now with access to opportunity and celebrity that Keanu Stewart has is going to just simply be putting up and getting along to get along with a nigga like what we've seen Greg to be so far. That has got to be more to the story. There's got to be more to the story. I don't know, you know what. I maybe he has two penises. I don't know. I don't know. You know what I'm saying.

00:45:53
Speaker 1: We don't know.

00:45:54
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. We don't know. But what we do know is what we do know.

00:45:59
Speaker 5: I mean, nothing.

00:46:02
Speaker 3: Is pretty and I want her to stay on show. And I ain't never turning on her. I don't give a fuck.

00:46:07
Speaker 1: I never turn it on the show.

00:46:10
Speaker 2: Yes, And I can say this because of Keanu, don't mine, because we already talked about this anyway. When I was in Jamaica sometime this year and I ran into kk at the airport. Greg was there, and this was around the time that the world thought they had broken up. And what she has settled the show already. That's why it's not a secret. What she has settling show was.

00:46:34
Speaker 1: The Jamaica trip was his way of showing and proving.

00:46:38
Speaker 2: That I am the man that you just deserve.

00:46:43
Speaker 6: Mr Carlos. He love bombed her. I'm telling you my niggling feelings be right. I'm not wrong, Curly shining out in real time that he's still that.

00:46:56
Speaker 1: I'm a crying, niggling feeling.

00:46:59
Speaker 5: The range how to spell it, and the chat won't let me spell it. Maybe it thinks I'm trying to spell yes.

00:47:05
Speaker 2: Don't think I don't want to get bad and I.

00:47:13
Speaker 5: Won't let me.

00:47:14
Speaker 2: The thing is this, I everyone knows I am Keana Stewart stand and I want her to come back next season. I also want Jazzy to come and be a full hospital.

00:47:30
Speaker 1: With that being said, I want I want more for Kanna, and I'm with all of you guys. I just listen. I hope I'm wrong. I hope I'm wrong. I hope I'm wrong.

00:47:43
Speaker 10: If if it does pay me to see a beautiful, accomplished woman accepting bare minimm from any man, and it's and it's and I'm just and Keanna.

00:47:55
Speaker 1: If this is a scheme that y'all set up, Baby, this ain't it.

00:47:58
Speaker 2: If this is who Greg really is, I'm gonna need you to fast and pray and and and ask divine power if this is the man for you.

00:48:08
Speaker 1: I don't know Greg, but I'm with Dustin one. I know more about King and Quad. I know more.

00:48:16
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like I'm invested in King and Quad's relationship, I am not.

00:48:22
Speaker 1: I am not invested in Greg.

00:48:24
Speaker 2: And Kean's relationship because I don't know Greg.

00:48:27
Speaker 4: Neither is Greg.

00:48:31
Speaker 3: That's why he came out of Radcliffs with a god damn photo frame alignment.

00:48:36
Speaker 4: Neither is Greg, Neither neither of you is invested. That's the problem.

00:48:40
Speaker 5: That picture frame pissed me off.

00:48:43
Speaker 6: Yeah.

00:48:43
Speaker 3: The kind of woman you want to put jewelry on? Look how she up in? Yeah, like you will. You should want to like dip her, make her. You know what I'm saying that you should want to do things like that.

00:49:00
Speaker 5: You could have got our tennis bracelet.

00:49:01
Speaker 3: Old thank you, thank you card. Yeah, it could have been anything, an ankle bracelet, a tennis bracelet, a fucking bust down cuban. It could have been any damn it have to be a wedding set.

00:49:15
Speaker 5: You get any ride nice stuff.

00:49:19
Speaker 3: Whoever was working that day at Radcliff and sold it to him, fuck you to it, because you, whoever was that sold that picture for you should have said, now I know you ain't fa lead out of here with a god damn picture.

00:49:31
Speaker 5: Frak okay in that big ass bag too, right? Oh hell no, I've been pissed.

00:49:39
Speaker 1: That's my point. I thought it was crazy.

00:49:44
Speaker 2: Okay, speaking of pissed, we have to get to the moment everybody been waiting for.

00:49:49
Speaker 3: Speaking of piss.

00:49:52
Speaker 8: Let me telliss baby she was.

00:49:59
Speaker 3: She was so bad.

00:50:01
Speaker 1: Got again to Wendy's mom, So listen. Doctor.

00:50:04
Speaker 2: Wendy is trying to establish some form of relationship with her estrange father. They spoke on the phone. The producer said, because I know how this works, child. When Wendy put the guy on face time is because the producer was saying, can we see the man?

00:50:21
Speaker 6: Like?

00:50:21
Speaker 1: Can we see him? That's why she said, can you go on face time? And he did. Her father looks like Eddie, her husband. I think they know they look just alike. And it's interesting because obviously for a lot of girls, not all you do, marry your dad whatever.

00:50:38
Speaker 2: But that being said, he appears to be this charming guy and you could tell Wendy is longing for a relationship.

00:50:47
Speaker 1: Baby. Up to the day or two next and.

00:50:57
Speaker 2: Up to Wendy's mom and her sister to come in and Wendy.

00:51:03
Speaker 1: This is when Wendy y'all all love Wendy. And I talked this to Wendy my interviews. I'm I say anything shady.

00:51:09
Speaker 2: Wendy produces her scenes before the producers come in the house. Right, Wendy knows exactly what she's gonna say, talk about Eddie is prepped, Eddie.

00:51:19
Speaker 1: Eddie is following script.

00:51:20
Speaker 4: Wendy is the.

00:51:23
Speaker 1: The hit of the household. In my opinion, Wendy brunshit.

00:51:27
Speaker 2: When Wendy tells her mother, hey, I just speak to my dad and the mother when was going.

00:51:34
Speaker 1: Off and Wendy said, Okay, this is getting real. Let me kids go upstairs. And the moment that.

00:51:41
Speaker 2: Wendy pointed her finger at the mom, and the mom said, don't you point your fucking finger at me.

00:51:46
Speaker 1: I'm not one of the kids or these girls. Okay, you're not.

00:51:50
Speaker 2: Gonna do that to me, and the sister co signed it. That's the moment Wendy was like, this is going off script, and Wendy did not know how to take control back of the scene.

00:52:02
Speaker 1: That's what I was watching when I saw it. Her mother said, shut the fuck up. You shut the fuck up.

00:52:12
Speaker 2: Wendy is trying to explain to her and make excuses for her dad, and her mom is like, I'm the one that raised you, worked four jobs, did all these things for you. He didn't do shit so much so you and your family flew to Africa miles away, your own grand I'm sorry, your own children who you're trying to send upstairs. Okay, he didn't make time to see them, and you want me to stop with that?

00:52:41
Speaker 1: And the sister low KEI was having the mom's back.

00:52:44
Speaker 2: Wendy looked over at Eddie tried to come in to diffuse it.

00:52:48
Speaker 1: Blewe to LuSE mol. I'm gonna start with you.

00:52:51
Speaker 2: Oh no, okay, I'm gonna say this.

00:52:54
Speaker 1: I called one of my one of my girlfriends who.

00:52:59
Speaker 2: Who had two kids at a young age and the father was not in their lives. Unfortunately, this man was in jail by his own doing. And she and I spoke about the scene, and she said, I am one hundred percent on Wendy's mother's side because as a mother with a.

00:53:20
Speaker 1: Did beat baby daddy.

00:53:22
Speaker 2: Nothing irritates a mother more than when their kids tried to make excuses for the didbie mother, for the didbie guy who did nothing. And she said, as a mother, I understand Wendy's mom because the kids have no idea the sacrifice you do and the sleepless nights when you're crying yourself to sleep because you are exhausted doing everything for these kids.

00:53:48
Speaker 1: And the man gets to live his best life and gets to.

00:53:51
Speaker 2: Go out and do whatever he wants, and you have the audacity to try to take up for him. So do you think Bleue Wendy's mom overreacted.

00:54:03
Speaker 4: I think your friend might.

00:54:04
Speaker 6: Want to see it talk to a therapist, because that's not about the kids, that's about cheers, respectfully, respectfully.

00:54:11
Speaker 4: I hope she's watching it right, She is watching.

00:54:13
Speaker 1: She's watching because.

00:54:15
Speaker 6: Here's the thing, Wendy's a mom too, so that car died when she had her babies, Like you could play that card that she was like twelve, thirteen, fourteen, but the fact that Wendy is also a mother with children who can now speak.

00:54:27
Speaker 4: To you woman to woman.

00:54:28
Speaker 6: I think it's very dangerous when women who are bitter about choosing the wrong baby daddy or mischoosing a father for their child gets mad at their adult children for saying, that's still my father, and I still want to have a relationship with him, regardless whatever happened between y'all. I think it's incredibly selfish and toxic that just because you and him didn't get along, that you're telling her to cut off any communication with a man that she wants to get to know. If she gets to know him and he breaks her heart and she comes to her own conclusions, that's her journey. You're set entering yourself in your children's journey. It's incredibly selfish, it's incredibly toxic. It's normalized ys function. Just because it's normal doesn't mean it's okay. Just because it's normal doesn't mean it's okay. My mother cannot stand my father, But if he was still alive and I wanted to speak to him because I want to know the other half of me.

00:55:17
Speaker 4: God help her if she got in my way.

00:55:19
Speaker 6: So I'm not on the mother's side, because it's a very very toxic and common thing that a lot of mothers do that they think just because he was a bad husband and he wasn't there when you needed him, then I don't get to know the other half of me. That's incredibly selfish. And any mother's out there who are moving like that, shame when you stop, stop full stop, yeah, stop making it about you. Whose fault is it that you chose him? That's half of them. And on top of that, if you did want to be the only person, maybe be safe and don't tell me to shut the fuck up on camera, because now you're giving me more reason we want to get to know him. You didn't have my back, and that's why I need somebody else who's in my bloodline.

00:56:01
Speaker 4: See, I can.

00:56:01
Speaker 6: Connect with them because you guys getting up against me, you're actually proving why she wants to get to know him, because you can't keep her safe.

00:56:09
Speaker 5: Come on, man, no, And if you were gonna talk to me crazy like that, do you not talk to me crazy like that with that wig.

00:56:17
Speaker 4: Was the wiggle in the room with us for that whole scene? Was there any wig glue? Did the producer Carlo is the producer, Do you guys provide wig glue?

00:56:25
Speaker 5: Y'all are trying and in the mom's wigs.

00:56:34
Speaker 3: She right here, It was like right here and both and both of them walked out that front door like that ship didn't sting? Did you see? How did you see how Wendy's mama and that sister Ivy walked out that front door. Wendy's mama, that front door was making noise the screen doing ship. That's what they need to renovate next. They need to put some w D forty on that screen door. It was making noise on her mind when Wendy's mama was walking out. These mama was walking out grumbling and ship walking out that front door, and shit I can see had cuts Wendy the fuck out in their kitchen like that. Wendy's mama. I'm gonna tell you what part first of all, let me make the serious points first.

00:57:14
Speaker 5: And the wretch outfit the.

00:57:18
Speaker 3: Rib knit that was a rib knitrib nick.

00:57:23
Speaker 5: That was the same ship.

00:57:31
Speaker 3: Now, Wendy mama was wrong as hell, flat out you wrong as hell that your issues with Wendy's father. It would be different if she would say if her conversation to Wendy had been, Hey, I want you to be safe. I want you and your emotions to be safe. I think you should think twice before for soon a relationship with him. I'm not gonna stop you, but he's had a pattern of whatever, whatever, there's a way to do that. When she got on there telling her you didn't already pissed me off, don't piss me more off, That's what she said, don't piss me more off. She thought about it when she was saying it, because she was just going, you know what I'm saying, Yeah, attention seeker. All that she completely attacked her. Wendy's sister completely attacked her. I think jealous of Wendy. I do. I think that the whole all three of them, Wendy, the sister, Eive, Mama, Tan be In. I think all three of them love attention. You know what I'm saying. They love the camera. They've been waiting on a chance to really tear Wendy. Bring Wendy down a peg because obviously we see the presentation that Wendy's had on the show and them being her bonus characters, and shit, they've been waiting on the opportunity to knock her down the side. The mother did it last time when she was determined to talk about her getting that allignance or whatever she gets. She kept wanting to talk about that, you know, and the men and Wendy talked about her father. She completely disrespected Wendy. Now, I think what was interesting to me was Wendy's reasoning what she cited as her reason for wanting to explore a relationship with her father. It came from a place of it felt like like she was being like just being a contrarian, you know what I'm saying. So it's like like she was like, well, they don't like him, and since they don't want to fuck with him, that makes me want to because I always feel like I'm different from them, and so maybe if I explore this relationship with him, I'll have somebody on my side. To me, that's a weird place to approach getting to know your father from, especially when you're willing to go againt your mama to do it, you know what I'm saying. So none of it made no damn sense to me. Also, the worst motherfucker in the whole entire scene was Wendy's no good ass father sitting over there in Africa and ought to be ashamed of hisself ain't seeing his daughter in twenty fucking years. She carried all them children over there to Africa to see his ass, and he didn't show up. And Wendy's mama was wrong for letting her do it. You tell her every other damn thing to do. You got something else to say about everything else she does? Why you didn't stop her and Eddie from going over there, especially now that we know all the allegations, Because I know the mama know about whatever is going on, you should have been the first one, like, I don't think it's a good idea. You know what I'm saying. Don't go over to Africa to see him because you might not see him. Instead, you want to call Wendy idiots, make up lives about her disrespecting you. Wendy went disrespectful not one damn time in that conversation to her mother. Her mother was a disrespectful person in that conversation. I was so happy to see her walking out that door and making noise her and her daughter, Ivy, Wendy's sister. There's a meme of these ladies walking in a parking lot with like these persons on their arms and then they turn directions and they keep walking like that. That's how Wendy mama and sister walked out of that house after that argument, after she completely did respected Wendy. I didn't like nothing about that. The mama and the daddy wrong.

01:01:04
Speaker 5: Is hell, she just respected Wendy and Eddie like you very much, so throw your house and this how and then all this kind of stuff. I mean, that is a shady reason for Wendy to want to be with her dad. Be cool to dad, because you know, to have some one aside that I could see that that would be annoying, but there was a way better way to handle that. And they making a scene like that and just ganging up on Wendy like that and just being super rude. I just felt like that was just it just gave trying to steal the scene in a reality show more than given a damn about how this comes off and how you want to be the FIA daughter. It kind of gave shitty. And also I don't have a great I don't really have a really great relationship my dad either, but like it would be a big deal for me to reach out to him, And if my mom reacted like that, that would devastate me, Like damn, mom, Like you know how hard it was for me to even try to reach out, And then you're gonna like react like that, you know what I'm saying, Like, Yeah, I under said he hurts you and he was wrong for that. He's dead ass wrong for that, And I could I can too thing to be true at the same time, he could be a dead ass wrong to you, but I still could be curious. Can I use macurial? Can I fit mecurial.

01:02:17
Speaker 3: D m angel and ask her?

01:02:22
Speaker 5: You know, it's hard enough, Like there's too many of us that don't have great relationships with our dad. So your mom to reacts like that is crazy. But but Wendy, also, your motive is only to stick it to your sister, your mom. That's not cool either.

01:02:33
Speaker 6: That's not her motive. That's the pain, you guys. One of the things where to take seriously. When people are traumatized, they say things almost.

01:02:40
Speaker 4: Like on the surface level because they haven't gone introspective. I do believe that someone who was a father like that like a little.

01:02:46
Speaker 5: Bit of tea.

01:02:47
Speaker 6: I just found out two months ago that my daddy got I have a little sister.

01:02:50
Speaker 4: I just found out two months ago.

01:02:52
Speaker 5: How old was your little sister?

01:02:54
Speaker 4: Six months younger than me?

01:02:55
Speaker 1: Oh?

01:02:56
Speaker 4: I got and and her mom and her mama is my mother's best friend.

01:02:59
Speaker 5: Oh just found this out.

01:03:03
Speaker 6: And I said, mom, I'm in my forties. What you mean because I said, you know, my daddy's youngest child.

01:03:09
Speaker 4: She's like, no, you're not.

01:03:09
Speaker 6: Carol had the other one a couple months later. That's why I don't talk to her no more. I said, now, hold on, bitch, like what's going on? Yeah, Now, like you know, black families will drop off a thing like that right right around Thanksgiving and expect you to do just right. In that moment, I said, Mommy, if daddy had been alive, I would have wanted to talk to him about this. And she said, well, you know how he was just be careful. My mother in her mind she's like, that's your father. I think he's a piece of shit. But he gave me you, so he did something right. That's what the people just said.

01:03:38
Speaker 4: He gave me you he did something right. He didn't. He was generous, he just didn't know how to put his penis away.

01:03:43
Speaker 6: I honestly think the Dustin's thing, I think the mother was excited that Wendy was going to go to Africa and get rejected to prove a point. I think that's why, because she's selfish. A selfish person won't let you walk into the fire so they can prove a point. That's the first thing I think. What when you misspoke about in her trauma was that I feel alone because two against one and I'm trying to see if there's somebody else in my bloodline who will make me feel like I belong. Does she word it incorrectly?

01:04:08
Speaker 3: Sure?

01:04:08
Speaker 6: But people we talked about this in the Braxtons thing. People were things incorrect because they have sallow points. I think deep down because for me my father sometimes I look in the mirror, my mother will be like you, it's just like your daddy today, and I'm like, I.

01:04:18
Speaker 4: Don't know what that means. You know what I mean? And so I think there's and then you pick.

01:04:23
Speaker 6: A husband who looks just like him, which, by the way, makes me wonder what Kiana's daddy look like. Maybe that's why Greg is even here, because what does Keiana's daddy look like? I'm sorry, I'll be curious. Can we get a picture of him? I'm just saying so. I think if you were a mother who was centering your child rather than centering your your bank account, you would be in a space where you want to make sure that you're keeping her safe but allowing her to figure out for.

01:04:46
Speaker 4: Herself and being a support system.

01:04:47
Speaker 6: But when your mother who says, well, you know, your daddy ain't shit, and I get to keep all your money because he's not around, and you and your daughter are being two mean girls against the cash cow who you like to take bring down a notch.

01:04:59
Speaker 4: This is not much the ring.

01:05:00
Speaker 6: It feels like three sisters arguing and the oldest sister thinks that she gets to talk the most abusive while saying I'm trying to protect you.

01:05:06
Speaker 4: That's not what protection looks like. He can't hurt me, but you can come on.

01:05:10
Speaker 5: That scene was a mess. It was.

01:05:11
Speaker 4: It was heartbreaking.

01:05:12
Speaker 3: No, it was.

01:05:13
Speaker 2: It was crazy, and like I said, you could tell Wendy was not expecting that to happen at all. It was it was it was really really bad and it was it.

01:05:25
Speaker 3: Was you know, I smoked after you know, they smoked after that, after the cameras left. You know her Eddie was like, she.

01:05:38
Speaker 4: That's the work for their marketing. See, Wendy, if you're watching this, higher dustin to.

01:05:42
Speaker 11: Work for your so you know how wady to be talking, you know, that's what he was doing, was rolling the happy Eddie baby they needed.

01:05:54
Speaker 5: I did like how caring though Eddie came off with his wife.

01:05:59
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a great man a lot, No Eddie's Eddie's a great great man. But that's see what's crazy. Well, see what happens next week. All right, So before we let y'all go, we have a bonus story that happened. Okay, it's the last story of the year, the last hot topic. Claudia Jordan, I would like for you to take this away because apparently friend to the show and our friend in real life, Cynthia Belly name was mentioned. After Peter Thomas, who is serving time in prison right now. He said in an interview with Michelle Brown that his new woman has visited him eighty percent of the time, and he mentioned Cynthia Belly and when he talked about Cynthia Belly. He did say that Cynthia Belly ain't shit for not busiting him while in prison, and said if I never see her.

01:07:05
Speaker 1: Again, it would be too so.

01:07:08
Speaker 5: Peter, shut up, shut up you. Cynthia has moved on, You have moved on. Your new woman should be there supporting, and then he went on to say that he helped her make seventeen million dollars and Michelle Brown's stinking ass was sitting there grinnin, sucking it up, loving it because she's such a hater to pretty girls. She really is. She's sitting there loving it. She's such a pick me to men. And I really don't like that, Peter. Cynthia doesn't owe you having to come. If she can make it, she can come by, but she doesn't owe you. And to put that pressure on her when you're both in other relationships, to me, it is crazy. I just thought that was so wrong to put that out there like that. Should have been a phone call or a letter. Write her a letter. Don't put that on a blog like that. It gave cloud chase, it gave attention seeking, it gave let me go on Michelle's blog that it was very messy. To a lot of women and dragged my ex wife, you know when there was There's been many times that that there's been some negative news stories about Peter financially with Cynthia was dragged into it. That Cynthia never dragged you, and she could never dragged you. She treated you with a class even when she could have she could have been irritated and angry about how she was dragged into these financial messes, and she never dragged you. And that's loyalty, not coming to prison to visit you, like I just thought that was really taggy, Peter. I'm disappointed. I hope you take that back. And to say, Cynthia ain't shit. You wouldn't be as famous and known as you are if it wasn't to Cynthia putting you on the Housewives. Yeah you had a you had known somewhat music scene, but she definitely you being on the show with her. I mean the storyline, y'all worked together, but let's not be let's be very clear who the star was. It was her and you of course helped their storyline. But don't get carried away where you helped her make all this money, but she couldn't have done it. Without you. She could have she could have brought someone else on. She could have brought her her baby daddy and they leon who people love to see him. She could have brought a male model, she could have brought her friends, she could have brought a date. Whoever. People still wanted to rock with Cynthia. And I thought that was just it was kind of diminishing Cynthia. And I know you're gonna get mad, You're probably gonna go back on the show show and say, I ain't shit, I really don't give a fuck. I really don't. I mean, I've been dragged by better. I don't care what she says about me. But I'm just saying I just thought that was whack to do that to Cynthia. I think Cynthia doesn't deserve that smoke from you, Peter. And that's something that should have been a phone call and not exploiting her for your friend's blog to get attention. And and Michelle was all very happy to drag another woman like she always does. That's why she's.

01:09:46
Speaker 3: Cursed and Blue.

01:09:50
Speaker 1: You don't say anything.

01:09:52
Speaker 3: Blue ladies.

01:09:53
Speaker 4: First, Oh, keep setting me up.

01:09:57
Speaker 3: Be nice.

01:09:58
Speaker 4: Cynthia Bailey is a very classy woman.

01:10:01
Speaker 6: I have nothing but incredibly respectful and kind of things to say about her. The restraint that she's shown for decades decades should be applauded. And the fact that she has shielded you with her silence, that same silence that shielded you. Now you can't attack it right, you can't benefit from her silence and now be upset that she's not on you. And also, she's not your wife. The expectation is ridiculous. She's not your wife. She's your ex who's skeptic cute? How about you follow suit?

01:10:31
Speaker 5: And if you're Peter's new girlfriend, I'd be pissed. I'd be like, why you focus on your ex wife from so many relationships ago when I'm here holding you down? I'm coming, Am I not enough? Why are you mad that your ex is not coming when I'm showing up for you? So I get the new woman props and much respect for you going and holding it down. And I think Peter, she should be shown more respect for showing up for you. That's who's in your life.

01:10:57
Speaker 3: Now.

01:10:58
Speaker 5: Imagine me being mad that my boy friend from twelve years ago, our husband, is not showing up to something. Now. It'd be nice if they will but they don't owe it to you. They don't owe it to you, and they don't should not be dragged for not coming through. They don't have to have no responsibility to anymore. And I know, Michelle're gonna make forty videos of me now. I'm gonna be your content until fucking spring. Whatever. You're welcome, go. Hope you have a nice track off of it. Hell ho ho ho.

01:11:32
Speaker 3: None of this. I don't know nothing about none of this because it just seems like a weak story to me. I don't understand what's newsworthy about Peter complaining from jail that Cynthia, his ex wife two three relationships ago, has not come to visit him in jail. To me, it's just literally, like by definition, a moot point. So I don't really know what's even newsworthy about that. It's ridiculous. The notion of him being upset about Cynthia not visiting him in jail is ridiculous. And that's probably why we haven't heard Cynthia say shit about it, you know what I'm saying. We know Cynthia Bailey is a woman that chooses peace. She's a woman that chooses to take the high road and the high ground, which is why she left him on the road and moved on down the road with her life. And so he might say Cynthia ain't shit, but what we do know is says Cynthia is the shit, which is why he married her and was willing to be such a gleeful participant in her tenure on the Real Housewives of Atlanta. Leader showed up and showed he was a gleeful tent. He was a gleeful participant. He was happy to be there and happy to be getting the attention that was on the show. He was happy to begin the attention that was on this that he got on that show. It helped his brick and mortar businesses thrive. His businesses wasn't closing with him and Cynthia was together. That shit. He didn't start seeing those misfortunes until after they broke up, and even after then, when the real news worthy headlines came out about the lawsuit and shit like that. Cynthia even handled that grace. So taking a phone call from jail, or him having a phone interview from jail about you know, his feelings or whatever. As he's sitting back thinking about it, I just didn't understand why that's newsworthy. So much like Cynthia, we just move all past that shit man.

01:13:16
Speaker 5: And she's in a new relationship, Like, how's that gonna like? Play with your new guy. I'm seex and go get searched.

01:13:23
Speaker 3: It was just ridiculous. It doesn't even make sense. So I felt like we even wasting energy you. To be honest with you, it's just not newsworthy.

01:13:32
Speaker 2: Listen, rain Drop, Claudia, Dusted and Blue have a mercurial.

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01:13:43
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01:13:54
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