World Series Game 4 Preview, Hangover aftermath, Davidi & Harris join

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Speaker 1: There is he's up.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, some morning, it's afternoon and whole yeah, my beauty sleep did not get taken. I don't even know what the word is.

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Speaker 3: This is good.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna see how many times we mess up just saying words.

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Speaker 2: I mean today, listen, I gave up coffee, but today.

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Speaker 1: Yep, you're back. Wow. I mean look Kratz. Producer Lady asked me a question like do you want this or this? And I replied yep. And it wasn't like on purpose. She was like no, I asked if you want this or this and you said yes? Uh, speaking of which are.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's because West Producer Lady was like this while we were up till four in the morning. She was sleeping because you know, she has to get her sleep in her eight hours otherwise she is super cranky.

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Speaker 1: She was working on something for us and we have it. There was a yeah mission slip put together by us. Dear producer Lady. Game three of the World Series went eighteen innings. Can you please excuse aj Eric and Scott from work slash school for me? I call it school. Please circle to circle no. If you have any questions, please contact Dodgers on your social media accounts. That's what the Dodgers put out there. But we got to know. I think a lot of people got to Yes, we got to know.

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Speaker 2: I think I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure we're gonna I don't know if we're gonna have a single commercial all day, not a single break aj one more?

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Speaker 3: Well more?

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Speaker 2: What just always one more? So that we don't because we don't get permission to have.

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Speaker 3: All Yeah, wait, what do you do?

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Speaker 1: Just explain to everyone real quick. One more means when we are chit chatting behind the scenes on a text group or on slack for who's up next to ask a question. Usually we are pushing it on timing, and then we say one more, one more question.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and producer lady likes to throw the knife at you. Yeah, usually right in the back.

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Speaker 1: Yes, well but no, that.

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Speaker 2: What a game.

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Speaker 3: I mean, let's yeah, I got.

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Speaker 1: A charge, so I want you to Thanks to everyone that was watching the post game last night. We are doing a post game after game four. The post game after Game three was one of the best post games we've ever done, so you can check it out after the show if you'd like. Also, just throwing this out there to hit upfoul territory shop dot com. Some people were like, I want to get more left f t there's a good way to do it. I'm wearing something, Crats is wearing something. It is almost always got the hat on too, So there you go. Yep, we've all got merch on. So appreciate you and Marlin's man.

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Speaker 2: I look like Marlin's man moving my hat around like all d no, no.

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Speaker 2: What a game? What a game? Yeah? I didn't know that a game could top the fifteen inning game that we did at the end of the division series, but last night's kind of did. The only difference was it wasn't a winner take all game. But I mean from defensive plays, offensive plays, base running, miscues, base running, good offensive guys crouch his law can't get any kind of hit for him. I mean, the only guy that couldn't come through was his guy. I mean pitching guys stepping up that have never thrown more than thirty six pitches, not thirty for all the people that are getting it wrong out there, thirty six pitches in his big league career, throwing four innings, Eric Lauer going four and two thirds. I mean, what an epic game. And Freddy Freeman doesn't get my boy, Freddy. I didn't text you today, Freddy because I figured you got a million texts and I don't want to be that guy. But thank you Freddy finally ending this, because if you didn't hit that home or Freddy sho Hey would be on his twelfth intentional walk and I'd still be sitting in the same spot and I would have two picks in my eyes, hold them up like this.

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Speaker 1: Well, how does this work though? For game four? Like, how do guys recover from this? I mean they go home? You it's no big deal, crats because I mean, also, it was in the on the West coast. It wasn't that late. I mean it was late, but it wasn't like crazy. And it's not like they're playing a night into a day. Game to me when I'm looking at the recovery time, I mean it's more the game that was played. They'll get sleep, right, I mean they have time to get whatever they get and then get to the ballpark.

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Speaker 2: I caught two eighteen inning games, not like coming in halfway, so I know where Will Smith's at. And I honestly, after both of those games, I was not sore. And I called him when I was thirty six and thirty nine were my two eighteen inning games, Like you just kind of keep going through the motions. You keep you just keep being ready. Maybe in two days you'd be sore. But soreness that's like a hot, cold toe that has some contrast, maybe little ivory profen like you're ready to go. You're not sitting there in a game. He won't be sitting in their game tonight, or at least I was not sitting in the next game, going, oh man, I can barely even move, Like I don't even know how I'm gonna be able to do this, Like no, you physically you just go out there and do it. Mentally, you're like, I hope we don't do that again. I called I think an eighteen inning game in the minor leagues, and I caught a nineteen inning game in the big leagues this day before the All Star break, so I got lucky. And then but I had to go to the All Star Game, and it was a game where Ozzie told me he was a manager in two thousand and six. And I wasn't gonna play no matter what. So I kind of just sat there like this and was like, cheers, boys, you guys go get him. And I was the last guy on a bench coffee coffee, and and I remember that it got down and it was a close game, and Ozzie's like, you're our last position player. You might have to use you. And I was like me, You're gonna have to use me? Like are you sure? Ozzie meant I've had too much coffee, and so didn't end up needing me. But uh yeah, I mean I wasn't sore. It was just more of I was a little bit tired because we had to jump on a flight after the game and fly to Pittsburgh and we were in Chicago. But other than that, I wasn't sore. And I remember catching plenty of extra any games, being like all right, I'm ready to go the next day. I think Will Smith will be fine. I think Alejandra Kirk will be fine. It's the freaking World Series. Figure it out, go home, you know, drink some extra coffee, whatever you gotta do to get loose. I wasn't a big hot tub, cold tub guy, but some guys like that, get a massage, whatever it takes to be ready. It's the World Series. These guys will be ready a j.

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Speaker 1: I liked what John Schneider said after the game about a quote devastating loss. He didn't say that part, but his reply to losing a tough game like this was one game, and I know it sounds simple, but I mean they're down two games to one. So I think the general public looks at what happened and says, oh, well, it's over now. I mean, that was such a grueling marathon that the Dodgers won. I mean, they've got all the momentum. It's over.

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Speaker 3: No.

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Speaker 2: But I think I think it's more they look at the way the pitching is lined up. They pushed beaver back. You have show Hay pitching, and I who could be tired because he was on base nine times last night, right, But Bieber didn't pitch great time time out he did, Yeah, I mean he did drinks some What did a talk to Glassnow? What's pickle juice? What do you say he drinks pickle juice? Whatever? Boss now sorted drinking to get rid of his cramps, So glassnow knows how to get rid of cramps. But yeah, I mean, I think it's because Baber's pitch, and you have show Hay on the mound, then you have snow Yamamoto, all those guys lined up. The biggest question mark for me, though, is who's gonna pitch? Because there's a bunch of guys that are down. I guess Bassett's available and some other guys are available. But you got to get some innings out of your starters today. So who's gonna pitch? That's what's gonna be fascinating to see who's available from the pitching side, and where's George Springer? Is George Springer?

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Speaker 3: Okay?

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Speaker 2: Today? I listen. It was one game. It just feels like when you use all these resources, the winner of these games usually comes out better.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 3: I know.

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Speaker 2: When they had the atn inning game last time in Dodger Stadium, the Red Sox used Dvaldi for like eight innings and you ended up getting lost, and they ended up winning the series. But the Blue Jays used a bunch more guys. The Dodgers used a bunch more guys. I just feel like with the Dodgers being at home, that's the momentum. That's the momentum that they're gonna ride. But we'll see, we'll see. It's been a heck of a series. These first three games have been awesome to watch so far. I mean, pitching matchup, they've been behind, they've been behind the eight ball and the pitching matchup the whole time. I think, I think when you talk about these four guys, show Hey, Yamamoto, Blake Snell, and Glass now to me the most like physically intimidating mom star as they were talking about as John Schneider was talking about saying they're like space jam was Glass Now, and I thought they had a good approach against them. You're gonna have to develop your approach against show Hey, and that's how they get back in this. Like it's a devastating loss only if you make it devastating. Only if you sit there and you're riding home on the bus, like, oh, I had a chance we could have won this, or you're like, in the regular season, how am I gonna get after show? Hey, it's a night game after night game. It's not like we've got a quick turnaround, am I. What do I need to do? Is he gonna spin a bunch of breaking balls up there like the last two right handers have. Because if that's the case, I know what I need to sit on it and you start thinking about beating that guy. You know, if you sit there and sulk about your loss, like we could have done this, should have done that, Star base Code, shouldn't have like, you just keep bringing up negative stuff and that doesn't help you win tonight's game.

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 2: I no, I was just saying that what krat said is right.

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Speaker 3: You just move on.

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Speaker 2: This is again, this is the World Series, okay, like one loss. Not that I've never lost a World Series game, so I don't know how it feels, but just saying, if you lose one game in the playoffs, you just move on to the next game. You don't you don't even think about the last game. It's like troop Baseball players, most of them are really good at You can compartment car, car, pet, compartmental almost anything in baseball. If you're gonna, if you're a great player, you can shut things off in your brain. You can shut off home life, you can shut off things that are happening away from the field, right crafts like you can shut off losses, shut out bad at bats. If you can't, then you're not probably gonna make it. So you have to be able to do that, and you become better and better as you get older. But yeah, it's one game. It's the World Series. Like, what are we thinking about here? It's the World Series?

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Speaker 3: Move on, I get that part.

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Speaker 1: So we're showing the MLB rivals cards of some of the Blue Jays bats right now. And Kirk was only in for what ended up being about half the game. Laddie was in there. The Blue Jays have a dynamic offense right It's looked at as the best offense in baseball this year, contact, slug depth, et cetera. Vladdie doing what he's doing right now. Obviously the Dodgers have a great offense as well. But the question I have is did last night change things in terms of how to pitch this team and that you have some relievers who have found it again. I brought this up on the post game show. No, you don't think any of that was a thing last night, I mean the blue after about the long ass time.

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Speaker 2: Because they had their whole bench in the I mean, listen, these guys are big leaguers, but they had their bench in the game. They're no Bow, no Kirk, uh, no Barger, no uh no Springer right, so it changes. Vladdy was like, no offense to these other guys. But Lucas didn't have a great night, Vladdie. They were like, okay, who's hitting behind Vladdie? Now, oh, okay, we'll take our chances with that person. I k f right now, Vladdie, you guy. And then and then Heineman came in no offense to hine him in. He's a big league player, but he's not Alejandro Kirk, especially after hitting the three run homer. So I think it was they what they learned. They learned that they need to keep the starters in as long as possible. And for the Dodgers, I mean, if anything, the Dodgers should be more upset because they had Jesus. It was like base loaded, Freddy up, Muki up, Freddy Muki up, Freddy up. Flyball to the warning track fly ball, the warning track fly ball. It's like, geez, maybe they need to figure out a way to get a hit. Maybe it's not on the Blue Jays. I think the Blue Jays. I think when you can navigate a lineup, when you set out and you see the whole line of starting lineup or the guys that come in, you always know where certain guys are. And unfortunately, when you have Miles Straw in the game, when you have Heineman in the game, when you have your second pinch hitter in the game, David Schneider after ty Frantz came out of the game, ikf is in the game, you sit there and you go, I know where they're at. I know that I don't need to make a pitch to Ernie Clement who's been swinging it, Nathan Lucas who's been swinging it. And if you go back and look at like challenge pitches middle middle to some of those guys, they don't need to do it. And when these guys chase out of the zone, you get weaker contact. And then you get to the guys that you're like, Okay, I can go middle middle with these guys because I know they're not gonna take me out of the ballpark. I know they're you know, they could get a base hit, but consistently drive the ball out of the out of the yard. Like I just think people underestimate what it means to have holes in the lineup. I could watch it from the other side when I was in the batting order. You could see, Hey, we're not gonna let the six hitter beat us because Kratz is on deck and we have one out.

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Speaker 3: We have that.

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Speaker 2: You know, you figure out how to navigate lineups and no more important than in the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, look at the other side. I know that abats might look a little better the last couple of games, but imagine if the nine spot was getting on even a little bit more, and how scary that would be for opposing pitchers facing show Heyo Tani Pias has been an auto out almost every time, and I think we all agree that he's the best option to start games and he's the center fielder're holding it down for a team that's got good up the middle defense here, But imagine if that was more of a problem spot. By the way, I just randomly thought about this. The one move where I was like, this is absolutely dumb and I disagree with this was intentionally walking Andre Samenez. Do you guys agree with that. I'm like, that has to be something from the analytics office saying that this pitcher's pitches don't line up with David schneider swings because also, David Schneider this year is reverse splitz. I know you want him against lefties, but you've got reverse splitz. Not like you can get right into pitching. So I'm like, you're walking commence to get to Schneider, and then you're also getting yourself one step closer to Bladdie.

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Speaker 2: It worked, it worked, you got a hit. Okay, Schneider got a hit, but the dog is in the game. They did get it, But I agree with it. Scott. I felt like that was kind of a brain fart. That was like the oh, there's a left up there, Well let's wait, yeah, let's walk them. Wait no, no, no, wait wait wait wait wait, we've been we've been getting you ka crats. Listen, you want to know why, because then you don't have after the game, you don't have to answer the questions why'd you pitch the lefty and say, jim And gets a hit with the right on deck. If you walk them, guess what, then there's no questions. If Scheider gets a hit to win the game, then there's no questions. It's it's really this. You know, those cratch You've been around long enough, and I've been I've been around long enough too. But here's the thing. Like a lot of managers that you play for. And I'm not saying any manager, either manager in this series, but I played for managers that all they managed for was the questions after the game, right, why'd we bring in this guy? Why did we do this? Why do we do this?

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Speaker 3: Whoa?

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Speaker 2: So when the media asked me after the game, they won't admit it, but you know, so the media after the game, when they asked me why we did that, I could say, well, we brought the left end to face the left here, we brought the right in and we will whatever you know, how it is. And that's I'm not saying this is what happened there, but this definitely goes through their mind a lot of times, as managers is even though this might be a better matchup, but the left on right, if he gets the hit, then I'm never going to hear the end of it.

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Speaker 1: Cheers, cheers, All right, that was good chat. We'll keep going on this. Of course, we're going to take a different angle on the fun that was had during this stretch, including fruit platters like you were getting a cabana at a beach club. We'll go over that coming up. We have a ton of guests too today, including Kevin Burkhart from Fox our buddy joining us. But shout out to MLB Rivals. There's the game. Don't worry, Bryce, You're staying with the Phillies. Take on the World Series with twenty twenty five live cards that we showed you while we were chatting, and the game now features baseball legends from the National Baseball Hall of Fame, available as brand new cards. MLB Rivals is free to download on the Apple App Store, Google Play, or also available on Steve. Bryce will take us into a quickie break and then we'll come back and give you more on the World Series.

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Speaker 1: Download MB rivals. Hey we're back. We have a super chat too that I'll read. Mikey said, no bullpen who back to back champs? Not yet? Keep in mind we're missing key arms in the bullpen. Phillips Kopek, graderol Vesier Gasparius Scotty said, trade for schoogle with the hashtag, you want to really make people excited. But a couple other people in the chat have brought up depth aj and I do think that part's important. The front office nerds out to decide who is the last pitcher that they are going to put on the roster, and that changes frequently for almost any team throughout each round. Whoever raised their hand and said Will Klein's got to be on there, good job.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but they didn't have They had Will Climb pitching in a blowout, not in the fifteenth, sixteenth, seventeenth, eighteenth of a pivotal World Series game. I mean, yeah, good job for them, but yeah, yeah, awesome for Will client till moment, he'll never forget his family will never forget that if they go on and win the series, the Dodger lore will never forget so great job for whatever guy picked him. But yeah, they didn't have him envisioning. They didn't envision him doing this. Brent Honeywell of twenty twenty five, Brent Honeywell doesn't have a job right now. Brent Honeywell came on our show before twenty twenty four and he was like, I'm.

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Speaker 2: I'm a big league pitcher, and then they freaking went out and bawled out for the Dodgers.

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Speaker 1: Our friends Katie Woo and Evandrelik on the scene talking to any players about what was going on during the eighteen inning marathon. From an amenities perspective. Amenities has been a big topic lately for us, right the Arkers on ac Yeah, the Dodgers are serving fruit platters. I mean for both sides. We saw that. For Vladie Junior, it was a great shot that was picked up by the Fox cameras. Dodgers reliever Jack Dryer said, we had like a whole game. After I came out, me and the rest of the guys at the bench were trying to figure out things to get rallies going. He said, I had steak at some point. So for those long games, are they checking with you? Like, give me the inside scoop From a team perspective, AJ, I'm saying, are is the team? Like, Hey, do you guys want anything?

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Speaker 3: Like?

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Speaker 1: How does that work? From a player perspective, you just go in the clubhouse yourself and stuff is laid out, like energy bars and food and whatever else, like tell us anything you can't access.

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Speaker 2: Usually, usually the it's either the strength coach or the trainer crats right, that comes up to he and says, hey, do you want something? He hung, do you need anything? I mean, teams have nutritionists now, so I'm sure there's a nutritionists running around now that say, hey, do you want something. Back in the day, if we went extra innings, you know, the string coach you come up with, hey you want a banana? You want a protein bar? And most of the time I try not to eat because I don't want to. I didn't want to pee. Alnzo misstime my coffee problem. So I tried to uh not eat. But yeah, guys, listen, if you're a pitcher and you're a lever at a game, sometimes you go in the clubhouse. Them dudes are in there with a full five course meal, eating their steak and their potatoes and their vegetables, and you're out there grinding on the fifteenth in and going, oh, my stomach's romblin. But I don't want to eat because if I eat, I might miss anything in the in doing the wrong thing. So I tried not to eat as much. But every once in a while i'd sneak a banana or an enjury energy bar if I was just feeling a little bit run down. But yeah, they there's people there that are like, you want this to drink, You want this, you want this, and heck, I'll be honest. Sometimes you even went for a rally beer if you're not in. If you're not in, maybe that rally beer will get the boys and knock who knows, who knows what happened when where Freddie hit that homer. I hated going into the clubhouse when I was playing, Like if I was changing my uniform because it was too sweaty or something, I would do it in the hallway right outside of the dugout, like going into the clubhouse and like smelling that night's food. Like sometimes it would just repulse me, like I was like ugh. Or it's like seeing guys just like this on the couch, like looking at the TV watching the game and you're like I just got hitting a toe by it fastball, like I'm hurting here. So anything I would eat, it would always be on the bench. Guys would always have what were they They would have the uh, the nut butter. They had the packets that you would like squeeze squeeze out the peanut butter, and then they had apple sauce that was you know, they started bringing them out in the little basket and stuff. By the end of my career, it was the kind of got a little bougie, not not fruit tray bougie, but it got a little bougie.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. They were melons, bananas, all kinds of stuff that was coming out there on that fruit tray.

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Speaker 2: The problem with the fruit tray though, is if you eat fruit like it gives you that rush. It's like drinking a soft drink, right, it gives you that rush, But then you kind of have that crash because the sugar wears off if you're out there long enough. So I tried to, you know, other than a banana, I tried to stay away from the fruit pregame and you'd eat some protein and stuff. So I'm surprised there wasn't more protein bars eating and things like that. But hey, they all got through it and it was you know what, it was a cool story because people got to tell what they were doing and this and that.

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Speaker 3: Listen.

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Speaker 2: I remember when we went in fourteen innings in Houston in two thousand and five, Jeff Blum hit the home run. At the time, it was the longest World Series game in history. I'll be honest. I was sitting in the couch with Kenny Williams drinking a beer when he hit the home run, so because I had been double switched out in like the tenth innings, So I mean, listen, everyone has their own thing. We were sitting in there having a beer, and I remember Kenny Williams said, if we win tonight, it's over because this is our shot in Oswall. We end up winning the game with Blum, and then we won the next game and swept them. So people do all their own things. I mean, that's the game. Mark Burley came in and didn't have anything to drink before he got to say.

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Speaker 1: For anyone listening podcast wise, there were many quotes popped up just to cover that many quotes. Okay, all right, next up, before we talked to Shy, we got one minute. Stephen Strasburg is back in baseball. He is going to be a coach at San Diego State. He is a San Diego State alum. Tony Gwynn, the Tony Gwinn, the late Tony Gwinn was his coach back when he was there, but current coach is Kevin Vance and he said Strasburg's arguably the best pitcher in college baseball history. Makes this announcement special is how much he cares about this program, the city and give him back to the game. He's a proud Aztec in San Diego, San Diegan, and he's never forgotten his roots. He's a quiet guy, but good for him. He wants to stay in the game. It's one of those guys where he didn't know if he was just going to disappear forever, but he's back pretty quickly.

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Speaker 3: Aj good for him.

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Speaker 2: Bussy lives in San Diego. He's from San Diego, he went to school. I mean, this is an easy thing for him. I'm sure they probably don't have to pay him a whole lot of money. I think he's still getting paid from the National So I just feel like this is a this is an easy transition. He wants to help some kids, and good for you, Steven Listen, Steven Strassburg, whatever you want to say about him. The times I've been around him, he's been really quiet, but he's knowledgeable and he's really nice when you get to talk to him. So good for you. Maybe he can help some kids become the next Steven Strasburg.

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Speaker 1: Here he is, Shy David sports Net Baseball Comments joining us right now. Good morning to you, Shy, and I'm returning the favorite. I think I'm doing Sportsnet Radio on tomorrow morning. I think it is a seven or eight am or something like that. But good to see you. It looks like a bright sunny day. So first off, just aftermath and how everything went for you, and also what you caught postgame from a player perspective in terms of some crazy things that you heard or saw.

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Speaker 5: I think mostly the impression has everyone was just exhausted, right, And that was the exactly word. I'm like, I said to Dalton Barsha, I'm like, describe that experience.

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Speaker 3: He's just like exhausting. And that was it.

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Speaker 5: And I just think there are a lot of guys who were fried physically for sure, but mentally perhaps even more so. It was such an intense game, with so many ups and downs, twists and turns, and there are the obvious laments, the missed opportunities, the chances with scoring positions, a couple of mistakes that they made. There is obviously any time you lose a game, but especially a game like that. I mean there's just so much. I mean there's literally two games in one there and enough drama for four or five at least.

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Speaker 3: So that was the general vibe.

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Speaker 5: But then you know, there was also the classic twenty twenty five Blue Jays.

00:28:41
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, we'll back tomorrow, no sweat, this is what we do.

00:28:44
Speaker 5: And so that was that was pretty evident in a lot of the conversations as well.

00:28:49
Speaker 2: Hey Shy, as much as we want to talk about how tired the players are, how tired are you and what did you do for eighteen X, they're talking about fruit platters, they're talking about eating steaks, they're talking about this and that. What did the reporters do? You guys are sitting up there grinding a way. How many different stories did you write on your computer? And how many different plots did you have before the end came?

00:29:11
Speaker 5: Well, the first one that I submitted is not the is very different from the second version that I submitted. And initially I had this really great story on Max Sureser that I hope to find another way to use down the road. But you know, Max Suser ended up becoming you know, he was started out as one of the main characters and ended up becoming you know, a bit player in the way that that game turned out crazy it is it is to say those games are super fun in a sense because it's changing so much constantly, and then what is important early becomes secondary later. But it as it went along, it just starts becoming, Okay, I've got to have something ready to go here because it's like three in the morning or four in the morning, whatever it was back home when people are going to editing this or reading this, so I better better just have something ready to go. And then and then the second version that I came after after talking to guys in the clubhouse. Is quite different and I hope a little bit better than the first version I submitted.

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00:31:17
Speaker 2: How much LOVEO concern is there was there last night in the clubhouse first Springer, Like, what was the feeling? I know, everyone's like, oh, the MRIs, you know, wait to hear what it says.

00:31:27
Speaker 3: What was it?

00:31:28
Speaker 2: Kind of like, you know what, you know, we definitely lost Springer for the series.

00:31:34
Speaker 5: I don't know that anybody was willing to go let themselves think, Okay, we've lost Springer for the series. But obvious concern and you know, John Schneider was trying to you know, be had glass half full even though it's like, yeah, this sucks and yea, how much she's meant to our team.

00:31:53
Speaker 3: There was just a lot of stuff to be careful with.

00:31:56
Speaker 5: So I think they want to make sure what the MRI says, see how he feels. I mean, Springer, as you guys know, just incredibly tough. He plays through so much. It's tough to play through and oblique if that's what it is, and that's that's the guess based on you know what limited stuff we heard. If you don't have your oblique, you can't swing the way that you need to swing. And he's already got his knee and other ailments that he's at the risk the stuff that he's playing through. So that would be a devastating blow for the Blue Jays, but it does give them maybe a little bit of flexibility in terms of, well, now you can d h Bobachett and you know, have a cleaner defensive alignment out on out on the field, so that you know if the if it ends up being that he can't play tonight or has to come out of the series. That's the the very very dull silver lining that there would be to that. But I think that the Blue Jays weren't ready to go there just yet, and a lot of hope and a lot of optimism that Springer's going to be okay, if not for this game, then for later in the series.

00:33:09
Speaker 2: All Right, Yeah, that sucks that Springer could miss some time at all because he's one of their big guys as we all know. So what about Beaber? What can Baber give you tonight? Because he did warm up last night. They showed him on the mound throwing kind of getting ready to go. So what can Shane Bieber give the Blue Jays tonight? And will him warming up effect, because I think it will at least a little bit affect him in tonight's Game four.

00:33:31
Speaker 3: Maybe maybe it will affect him.

00:33:33
Speaker 5: But I think one of the things that was working in their favor a little bit is that, you know, that flip in the rotation with he he was three and seven against the Mariners and now he's four in this series. There was a little bit of extra time, a little bit of extra rest, and so I don't think he got super hot. It was just loosening up to be ready just in case there was a nineteen for a twentieth or whatever. But we'll ultimately we'll see, right, the extra rest was important. The Blue Jays felt that that was something that would be good for him, especially considering how much he's already put on his arm coming back from the Tommy John surgery and everything. And ultimately the Blue Jays need innings from him just as much as the Dodgers need innings from Otani tonight, right Like, I mean, they literally used everyone in their bullpen. Eric Lauer made would have been one of their longest outings of all postseason out of the bullpen and relief, so you figure he's down, you know, they got multiple innings from other guys, so a lot of extension last night, but everybody will find a way to reset as much as possible. But yeah, the Blue Ja's definitely be counting on a lot from Beeber and I think if they see his command with the fastball, then they figure everything else is going to fall into place.

00:34:55
Speaker 3: That's usually the case with.

00:34:57
Speaker 5: Him, but it's coming gone throughout the postseason and he's found ways to get through some outings, but they need they need him to do a little bit more than just get through and on and they need I would say, at least five from him, uh to to have a good shot at winning this one tonight.

00:35:13
Speaker 2: One of the guys that didn't pitch much with Chris Bassett, any idea if they're okay with him back to back? I mean, I know that's crazy to say out of a normal bullpen, but you're talking about a starter who had an injury at the end of the season. So are they okay with a back to back Because that's the case, it makes their bullpen even shorter if they're not okay with it.

00:35:36
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think they will be, and I'll I know that Chris Bassett will be and anytime I ask him anything to do with usage, He's like, I can do anything and everything that they want, as many things as they want.

00:35:49
Speaker 3: I'm ready.

00:35:51
Speaker 5: And you know, Chris is one of the one of the ultimate competitors, no fear, finds, finds ways to work with whatever he's got on a given day. And you know, even though he did finish the season on the injured list with that back issue, you know, he was of the mind that he could have pitched if needed, and he'd pitched through that for a few starts there towards the end of the season, but they decided that since there was no need and they had some flexibility, that was better to just let him get some rest and see if he can fully reset himself for the postseason, which he did. So I would expect that Chris Bassett would be available. Now how many expecting multiple innings might be too much, but I will say this, you know, the couple of times we've seen Chris Bassett and leverage so far in this postseason, I really liked what I've seen. And he's obviously a good starter, and you're never going to walk away from a starter, but he'd be pretty interesting working out of the bullpen and be getting some creative usage there, just because I think his stuff plays differently and he attacks a little bit differently, and it's a really intriguing look.

00:37:03
Speaker 2: Carlos Feeble's the third base coach. Did you see him in the clubhouse afterwards? Did he feel like or did you hear anybody say like, hey, it's not a big deal, because there was a couple sens there that, especially the one with David Schneider with Ladd on deck, not saying they would't have walked him, but just saying like, was there any kind of conversation or did you see any body language that says like, ah, he was pretty bumped.

00:37:31
Speaker 5: I did not see Carlos after the game, but you know I was thinking through that that play specifically a few times. And you know, the Blue Jays obviously know ti Oscar Hernandez really well, having had him on the club, knows him well from being with the Red Sox all those years before he joined the Jays, so there's a lot of familiarity there. Like, you know, Hernandez played that perfectly. It's a perfect relay to Edmund. Edmund's perfect relay home like the Dodgers had to be on the money with that, and I think in that spot, you're thinking that lot could get walked or see nothing to hit, and then it's Isaiah kiner Faluffa behind them afterwards, and you're like, that might be the shot, and let's force the Dodgers to make this play. And again you know Tioscar Andnendez has an amazing arm, but like sometimes it's not always accurate, which we've seen also in the in the series. So I think that ultimately they the choice there was let's force the Dodgers to make the play.

00:38:35
Speaker 3: The Dodgers made the play, and the Blue just have to live with it.

00:38:39
Speaker 5: I didn't hate it in real time, you know, even though Guerrero is on deck, you know the Dodgers could have avoided them, and then where are you at? And then maybe you you're regretting not forcing the Dodgers to be perfect in their execution. So I think there were a lot of different laments, but I think more of the laments that I was hearing the clubhous was about different opportunities a runners in the scoring position where you know guys couldn't couldn't find the hit, as opposed to that one specifically.

00:39:10
Speaker 2: Listen if Carlos Fables ever gets down, Shy, just give him some cookies. Okay. I played. I played against him in the Gulf Coast League. We called him Cookie Monster because he just ate cookies. Every time I see him, I'm like cookie Monster and he starts laughing. So just if he ever gets down, just walk up to him and give him some cookies. Okay, he'll eat the whole box of them, all right, especially with this with this old gray beard. Okay, you know we're all getting there, Shy, So I get it. Here's my thing. I had no problem with that, sind because of everything you just said. Listen, Carlos had thought about this, and he, like you said, it took a perfect relay. Plus they were going off to throw that taoscar made earlier in the game where he pulled it to the to the left of home plate, and so he's thinking, if he just misses the cutoff man by a step, then he's safe at home. Unfortunately for the Blue Jays fans, he made a perfect relay. Edmund made a perfect relay. It was like Marger's throw, Barker's throw earlier in the game whe he threw out Freddy at home. It was just perfectly executed. I mean, it was part of the game. I had no problem with that saying because like you said, guess what, I Vladimir Guerrero ain't getting a hit in that situation. They're going like this and then it's gonna be on IKF. So I have no problem with that. Push the envelope. It didn't look like they were gonna score any other way. Try to get that running. Is that run scores, they probably win the game. So Carlos, you're fine for me.

00:40:22
Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree, And I'm not worried about Carlos being being down at all. That guy would if you ever see him not smiling then, I mean I've never seen it.

00:40:32
Speaker 3: So a lot of energy, a lot of positivity for him.

00:40:35
Speaker 5: And you know, I mean sometimes baseball it just happens, right, I like like you said, And great teams make me play sometimes and sometimes you got to force the into them, and you know, if it goes the other way a little bit. We're talking about what a great send that was and not having this conversation, but there's so many other opportunities. To me, that's not the most glaring mischance, right. You know, you go back to the weird play in the second inning with you know, when Varshow thought it was ball form, Bobaschet ends up getting picked off at second base. There were other you know, the Blueje's loss, probably at least a run that inning, maybe more. They had other opportunities to score in I don't know, like almost every inning. I can't remember which number is, definitely the tenth, the twelfth, the eighteenth. There were other opportunities. So it was not for want of other chances that you know, they were in the situation.

00:41:30
Speaker 3: And I know John Schneider has.

00:41:33
Speaker 5: Been getting a lot of criticism for emptying the bench, and you know, the way the lineup ended up being the way they finished the game, but he tried to win at different points and it just didn't work out. And you could never know when you're taking your shot that oh yeah, you're going to be playing a second game afterwards. So I didn't mind, you know, when Straw pinch ran for Barger, because you're trying to get a little bit benefit on the bases there maybe you can score another run, or when Heinemann came in for Kirk or some of the other moves that really depleted the batting order. But you're playing for that little edge to score a run. You're going for it, and sometimes you have to give your players a shot in a moment and it leaves you weaker afterwards, but you you probably feel what would feel worse if you didn't take that shot in the moment and didn't have that opportunity. So, if all, there are so many things that you can debate, I'm not sure that send would be high on my list.

00:42:31
Speaker 1: And the Dodgers are really good, they're favored. If you're in Toronto, you're gonna have to do some things to take risks. You know that if they work out, we go, Oh remember when they pinched ran so and so and then he scored the winning run by this much? So I get it. I'm totally.

00:42:51
Speaker 2: There were so many things in this game that happened that you forget, like the boba shit, Boba shit. I mean that would if they would have lost in nine innings by a run, that would everyone would been like, what the heck is he doing? Right? So because of what eighteen people kind of forget about that, and they they forget about Vlad scoring from first on a ball you know doubt barely got to the right field. Or down the right field are There's so many things that happened in this game. You know, Freddie getting thrown out of the plate, throwing, Kirk throwing out show Hey trying to steal. Like, because this game went so long, there were so many things you just kind of forget about. You almost have to rewatch it to thake like gosh, like that, Oh I forgot that happened because it was two days ago.

00:43:27
Speaker 5: Yeah, like the Guerrero throw to third to get Hernandez too, to nip another inning in the bud there. I think there there's so many Yeah, Like like you guys said that that game was I mean again, literally two games and enough to fill four. But you know the other thing that about the Blue Jays is that everything that they did is in line with the way they played throughout the regular season.

00:43:51
Speaker 3: Right.

00:43:51
Speaker 5: It's not like they suddenly went off script and you know they're just pulling things out of their butt to try and make things happen. That is that is the way they've played all season. They've switched up in those in those moments, they've tried to seize different opportunities and utilize specific skill sets and specific moments. It gets magnified obviously when it doesn't work out and a game gets extended the way that it did, and you know, full credit, you know, and we haven't even mentioned Eric Lowry yet and the job that he did, but you know, like the bullpen's bullpen's manch to just keep that one going. But that the Blue Jay did not behave out a character. They played their their game. The Dodgers just outlasted.

00:44:33
Speaker 1: Them, right, that's the brand of Blue Jays baseball. Shy's watching every pitch all year, so he knows. You can follow him at Shy Davd Sahi Davd Shy. Great to see you as always, really appreciated. Thanks for hopping on. I know it was a long one, but almost there a few days left potentially to go and hear in the World Series in the season and then some rest.

00:44:53
Speaker 6: Yeah.

00:44:54
Speaker 5: All good guys, especially when it's a it's a game that's going to be you know, historic like that, so I always a privileged to be at those games.

00:45:03
Speaker 3: So I good seeing you guys. Have a good one.

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00:46:07
Speaker 1: True, it's good. Kratz was waiting on that one since last night. That's good. I like that. There he is, thank you. Hey, we can put up this tweet. This was before Game three. Ernie Clement, who is great with the media, was asked about George Springer getting booed in La obviously, he said quote when he gets booed, I usually bow him as well. He thinks it actually inspires George. He's used to it. It's been a long time, aj. I mean the Astros trash Can scandal was out in twenty nineteen. It's twenty twenty five, and the punishment really for those players was hey, for the rest of your career. If you're tied to that team, fans are gonna give it to you more than they usually would. It is what it is.

00:46:55
Speaker 2: Listen, as somebody that thrived off booing, I wanted my team. It's would boom me at times just to get me going, So I get it. George Bringer lives thrives off this. There are certain guys I think Bregman a little bit thrives off this. Al Tuova I think took it a little more personal. But listen, I'm gonna tell you what people once told me. They ain't booing you, They ain't booing nobody's okay, And they usually blew you because you broke their heart. So if they're booing, you usually did something to break their heart. So go get them, George, if you're able, if you're healthy. I got booed one time at a visiting park. It's because I got in Joey Vado's face, so they booed me for like three at bats. That was it.

00:47:36
Speaker 1: So good, so good, Hey, we're back. We didn't get to this yesterday because I mean it was out kind of, but we didn't get the comments afterward, did you guys? See how Dave Roberts joked about the team going through delays and it wasn't the team, the players. They have four planes. Okay, the players left the night before, the night after the game, and then the coaches and a lot of other staff left in the morning on a plane, and they had a ton of delays and all of that. And Doc also said, I mean, they're traveling four hundred people, so it's going to take more time. But he was like, oh, you know, maybe there was some intent on why it took so long, and then people freaked out and then he had to clarify, like, I am sure the Prime Minister is not taking time to figure out how to delay us. And it actually sounds even funnier when you think about it, like, ooh, let's delay the coaches. It's not even the players. The players traveled smoothly over but just the fact that he even had to clarify that. I'm like, let's not be so sensitive, let's relax.

00:48:38
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, listen, I love this. So the Dodgers do this. I love that they fly separate. They let the players be the players. The coaches have a different plane, and the families have different We did this in two thousand and five. The players flew the coaches. Now we only had one plane for players and coaches, but the traveling party was way smaller. And then our families flew separate on a different plane, and on the way home, they literally flew back to back like this. One of us landed and then the next one landed. So I love this.

00:49:08
Speaker 1: Jack Harrison is here, he's awake, looking like he's fresh. I had a nice shower after staying late at the ballpark. Jacket to see you, and we really appreciate you hopping on. I mean, we're all over this crazy World series. We'll go backwards as we go, but I do want to try and spin it forward. First, expectations on pitcher usage heading into Game four, and included in that your thoughts on how Shoheo Tani could look after a long night. I know he's super human. But what have you seen?

00:49:40
Speaker 7: Yeah, with Otani, you know it's gonna be interesting. You know, you saw him cramping last night at one point. Obviously he's on the bases nine times. He did a lot of running on the bases. He tried to steal a base. He was joking last night, like I just want to get as much sleep as possible, So we'll see. You know, it seems like every time this guy gets challenged with some thing, especially physically, he goes beyond whatever the expectation is. But the Dodgers are going to need some length out of him because when you look at the bullpen, you know they're not totally wrecked after last night. You had guys like Anthony Bonda and Jack Dryer, and you know that didn't have to pitch quite as much Blake Trinan in that group. I think Roki Sasaki will be kind of the big question. He goes one to two thirds last night, is he going to be available? But I think, you know, the Dodgers are going to have a lot of guys at their disposal. I'm I'm sure the only guy who will be a for sure down as Will Clin probably needs a couple of days after last night?

00:50:39
Speaker 2: How great was Will Clin's performance last night? And if they now they have to go on and win the series. Obviously, it's like Nathan Valdi in twenty eighteen with the Red Sox, right when he threw all those innings and then the Red Sox they lost the game and went on to win the series, and everyone said that was the moment. But if the Dodger's going and win the series, where will Will Clein be remembered and the lore of Dodger World Series game? Kirk Gibson, Yes.

00:51:03
Speaker 7: Uh, he's he's gonna be up there. Uh to me, like, you know, especially the way that game was playing out those last couple innings.

00:51:11
Speaker 3: Uh.

00:51:12
Speaker 7: Dave Roberts goes on the broadcast and says he's gonna put a position player in the game. I mean, you think about how different this series would look if Will Klein, of all people, this guy who you know has been with three organizations this year, who was one of you know, in a Dodger season, they have dozens of guys that will come through, especially on the pitching staff, to phil innings here or there, and you just never expect one of them to have a moment like this, even he was joking, you know, you you could you can never anticipate something like this happening, even though he was at stay hot camp and trying to keep himself prepared and whatnot. And for him to go, you know, that fourth inning and to prevent a position player from having to come into the game, it just changes the whole complexion of this series. I mean, think about how how different things would feel on the Dodger side if not only they lose, but they lose because they literally ran out of pitching and had to put Miguel Rojas or something like that on the mound. So I think in terms of guys going from people that I'm sure eighty percent of the fans in that ballpark didn't know to becoming you know, the guy that everyone's mobbing around after a walk off. It's one of the more just kind of remarkable immediate star turns you could imagine from somebody that again just was never supposed to be this big of a part of the plan. But you know, like he said last night, no one was going to care if his legs were tired or if his arm was tired. He was still throwing ninety seven right through the end. So just one of the more heroic things you're going to see in October.

00:52:45
Speaker 2: You were there when he talked after the game.

00:52:47
Speaker 7: Right, Yeah, no, And it was funny. I mean, he was laughing at every question. I think just the surrealness of it as he was trying to like comprehend and digest what he had just gone through was really interesting. And again like this is a guy who you know, I was trying to remember if we even had like an official media scrum with him at any point this year. I'm pretty sure we didn't, just because again, when he pitched, even in the regular season, when he was pitching, it was low leverage, it was eating innings. It was hey, come up, because we have a couple guys in the bullpen that are going to need a few days and we need a little extra depth.

00:53:25
Speaker 3: You know.

00:53:25
Speaker 7: He got sent down like a couple of days before, I think, like on the very the second to last day of the regular season or something like that, after actually being part of the division clinch clubhouse celebration, and then again was in Arizona for the last couple of weeks, and the surrealness of that to him kind of watching him and listening to him try to go through this again. This moment that he was like you could never expect was one of the cooler kind of postgame interactions you're going to see in this kind of setting.

00:53:56
Speaker 2: Being a second thought player in a clubhouse by because you just answered it without me even saying anything. You didn't talk to him before this, You had never I mean, yeah, you probably knew who Will Klein was. Oh, it's cool. You know he's on the roster. I get it because Vessi is not there. Does it make you look around the clubhouse now and go, wait a minute, I get it, Freddy won the game showhy did historic things. But does it make you look around the clubhouse for both teams and go, what am I missing? Who?

00:54:31
Speaker 3: I know?

00:54:31
Speaker 2: I can't track all twenty six guys, but it takes twenty six guys to win these games. But you write your big articles about the superstars normally.

00:54:41
Speaker 7: Right, yeah, no, And that's you know, I think, and especially with the Dodgers and the pitching because the last couple of years they've had to use so many different pitchers. And you know, the part, like I was thinking about last night, is when you're in that space like it's got to be difficult or just you know, different for the guys that are coming through on that team over the course of the season, shuffling back and forth from the miners. You know you, I'm sure there's part of you that feels like, you know you're on the team, but you're kind of serving this other kind of role. And to have a guy like that, who, again nobody would have been thinking about before last night, not only go and pitch well in that spot last night, but to provide such a gutsy effort to throw seventy two pitches, to keep telling Dave Roberts, no, I'm good, No, I'm good, don't come get me. That is a that's a cool thing, and I think it reflects on again, one of the things that Dodgers do well is even with these guys that are way down the depth chart, they do spend time with them. They do help them improve. One thing Will Klein struggled with this year because he's always had a good fastball, that was the word when they traded for him from the Mariners, but just the command would be really wild. And for him to go through four innings last night, and I think only have what the two walks at the very end was really impressive. I think it speaks a lot to just his commitment and ability to be ready for that moment. And then also, you know, the culture that the Dodgers have were even a guy who was probably number fifteen or twenty on the pitching depth chart this year kind of felt that responsibility and that willingness to go and do something like that last night.

00:56:23
Speaker 2: Jack, I have two questions for you. One, why was Yamamoto the choice and not Blake Snell to be possibly the next pitcher for the Dodgers. Was it just a case that Yamamoto volunteered to do it and Blake Snell didn't. Had he already thrown his bullpen? Why was it Yamamoto and not Snell?

00:56:41
Speaker 6: Yeah?

00:56:41
Speaker 7: I think Snell had thrown his bullpen before the game. And then he's also going to be pitching, you know, obviously tomorrow now, so you know, like Dave Roberts said on the broadcast, he didn't want to use any of his starters. And I think the calculation the Dodgers were making once that game got into the sixteenth or seventeenth inning was, you know, even if we lose, we can come back and win this series as long as our starting pitchers can get us there. And one thing the Dodgers have been very wary of doing this postseason, even with the bullpen struggles, is using starters out of the pen on their throat day and things like that. So I think they were perfectly content to just well not content, but at that point of the game, they were playing the risk reward game of you know what, it's not worth burning our starters, you know, one of our starting pitchers here in a way that could hurt us for the rest of the series, even if we win tonight. But then, yeah, Yamamoto, you know, he talked about this after the game with the Japanese presses. You know, when he first started playing pro ball in Japan, like he would get ten days off after his starts, and he was thinking about how, you know, he's transformed his body and his training and got into a place where he can throw a complete game on one day, take a flight across the country to get in at five am the next day, and then feel physically ready to go down to the bullpen and get ready to pitch. And that's basically what he got to is that as that game was going on, he felt physically ready. He hadn't thrown his bullpen yet, he wasn't going to do that for a couple more days. His next start isn't until Game six, so he was going to have more time to recuperate anyway if he did come in and pitch, and he felt ready to go, even after a season in which he started thirty times and coming off back to back complete games. So and I mean even the fact of him even volunteering to pitch change the whole complexion, because I think once Dave Roberts knew, okay, I do have somebody behind Will Klein, he felt okay. Pushing him for one more inning as opposed to going to a position player in the eighteenth like he was initially planning to do.

00:58:36
Speaker 2: Javelin works wonders, but javelin just everyone needs to start throwing the javelin thing. Like, I don't know whatever you call that thing, But was that Clayton Kershaw swansong? Is that the last time you think, unless something crazy happens, that we'll see Clayton Kershaw on the mound in a Dodgers uniform for his career or will there be another opportunity for him.

00:58:57
Speaker 7: I think it'll definitely be the last time you see him in a moment where the game is on the line like that, and that I mean to me, that was the most memorable part of that game was his entrance because there was just this nervous tension that kind of came over the whole stadium because obviously people, you know, are excited to see Clayton Kershaw pitch, but they also know this might be his last time pitching, and oh no, what if he blows this game and adds one more just like terrible October disappointment to end his career. Like that was the mood from the crowd. There wasn't a ton of cheering. People were kind of almost sitting there silently watching him warm up. Even the Dodgers' infielders were just standing like right behind the mound watching him pitch like it was a glad he hater going into the ring or something. And then he comes out and he's pumping ninety with his slider and ninety two with his fastball, gets in a full count and has to make a big pitch and you know, this, though, is why this is the reason why they have him on the roster, even though he's not starting games, even though it's up isn't great is because they knew there might be a moment where they needed somebody who was not going to get rattled by a big situation, who is going to be able to come in and execute a couple pitches, And that's exactly what he did. And the elation that was in the ballpark after that nervousness once he got that final out from the crowd to the dugout where Dave Roberts gave him a huge high five as he was coming back down the stairs, and of the broadcast like cut to his wife in the stands and just the emotions that she was feeling in that moment.

01:00:31
Speaker 1: It was.

01:00:32
Speaker 7: It was a really interesting scene. And if it is his final time pitching in the big leagues, it was a cool way I think for him to go out getting this little taste of October success to.

01:00:45
Speaker 2: All right, I guess toin tonight. Sure, Hey, there's no way of tracking this. Oh we can see you know, his exhaustion meter is way down. How much did last night being on base nine times? Is it going to go into day Roberts decision making based on how he's pitching tonight. You assume perfection from him. But is Dave Roberts gonna sit there and go, Okay, this is the fifth Now you know he's been on base twice tonight, nine times last night. How much is it gonna go in or is it only gonna be the eye test for Dave tonight?

01:01:23
Speaker 6: Yeah?

01:01:23
Speaker 7: I mean the way that they've handled Otani all year, it's both the eye test and just communicating with him. And I think that the one thing they've done is trust what he's telling them about how he's feeling at various stages of his rehab and recovery and ramping back up to being a full time two way player. And I expect that's probably how it's gonna go tonight. I'm sure that you know they're gonna be extra cautious about if it looks like his stuff is falling off or it looks like he's fatiguing on the mound, because the one thing they don't want to do is push him to a point where you start risking injury or something like that. But my guess is that after every ing, Dave Robert's gonna ask Otani, how are you feeling? And as long as he's feeling okay, which you know, given what this guy does, the way he takes care of his body, the way he prepares, you know, I wouldn't be surprised if he's able to go out there and throw eighty ninety one hundred pitches without making it look like he had just played eighteen innings the night before.

01:02:19
Speaker 3: So we'll see.

01:02:20
Speaker 7: I think, you know, even for Otani, he's probably not going to know until he gets into the game, starts getting deeper into the game, seeing how his body's feeling, seeing how his stuff is holding up. I think the one good part for him is that, you know, over these last couple of weeks, he's really he's really found his feel for his full arsenal pitches in a way where he's probably not just having a rear back and throw as hard as he can every time. So it'll be interesting to see how he approaches the start, how the Dodgers handle him. But I think ultimately, you know, how long he goes is going to come down to how he's feeling and what the communication is like between him and Dave Roberts during the game.

01:02:54
Speaker 1: They handled him delicately working him back into the mix. Throughout the season, for this moment so that he feels good right now, and clearly he looks and feels good right now. Jack, great stuff, Thanks for joining us. Enjoy the next couple of days out there at the ballpark. Thanks guys, we got one minute here at the finish line. Did you guys see Shohy and Yamamoto embrace and the interpreters, And I think Roki was in there. I don't know, there was like five or six of them. He was in there too, Rokie. I thought that was cool for those guys. I mean, you got to keep in mind, this is not their home country. They're spending a good portion of their young adult life somewhere else, and they're in it together. And I just thought it was like a cool frat bro moment for Team Japan in the World Baseball Classic coming up, and how valuable those guys are in general.

01:03:48
Speaker 2: That was awesome. I love the fact that that Shohey did the uh the interview post game. Yeah, you can get them money, you know what, I'm asked Rosenthalf, he can away to come on our show or fair territory and then I'll then I'll kick Ken off and I'll take over.

01:04:06
Speaker 1: Good luck, sho was like on the interview, didn't you say it at the end, Like, yeah, I'm trying to get as much sleep as i can. Wink wink. This interviews over smiley face.

01:04:15
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go. This is my one interview I've done ever postgame we won.

01:04:21
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