Club 520 - Damian Lillard on playing w/ Giannis, Russell Westbrook battles, Steph Curry, NBA Top 75

The volume. All right, we're back another episode of Club 0:00:08.560 --> 0:00:10.799 five to twenty podcasts. Were on the road for a 0:00:10.840 --> 0:00:12.560 special guest. We got me in a special place. 0:00:12.600 --> 0:00:12.760 Man. 0:00:12.760 --> 0:00:14.920 We pulled up to Phoenix one time for the camp 0:00:15.640 --> 0:00:17.960 long away the episode. Man, they've been asking about him. 0:00:17.960 --> 0:00:19.880 Happy we could deliver. But to my far left, we 0:00:19.960 --> 0:00:21.920 got my dog Bi should be hearing out the pearles. 0:00:21.920 --> 0:00:22.279 How you was. 0:00:22.400 --> 0:00:24.560 Nasty, cool and nasty. Let's get to her baby. 0:00:24.800 --> 0:00:25.000 Damn. 0:00:25.000 --> 0:00:26.639 I gotta tell you, man, he got a uniform so 0:00:26.640 --> 0:00:28.319 you dont get him out of uniform and yo shoes. 0:00:28.400 --> 0:00:30.840 That's a big deal with you know what I mean? 0:00:30.920 --> 0:00:34.600 Three strips forever to make sure it's straight. Yeah, man, 0:00:34.960 --> 0:00:37.120 he got the lady change the lacers in there. Oh yeah, 0:00:37.120 --> 0:00:41.320 I freaked them out. I made them me sure that's 0:00:41.320 --> 0:00:41.800 your flavor. 0:00:41.920 --> 0:00:42.760 Run for show. 0:00:42.880 --> 0:00:44.880 To my right and my dog young not your young tig. 0:00:45.000 --> 0:00:46.120 How you are man Schilling? 0:00:46.159 --> 0:00:48.200 Man, I'm like, we got one of the special players 0:00:48.240 --> 0:00:50.360 in the bill on top seventy five. Person, I'm a 0:00:50.440 --> 0:00:53.400 huge fan of I'm really shitty. I ain't get that colorway, 0:00:53.520 --> 0:00:55.920 but I may you know what I'm saying, A big 0:00:55.960 --> 0:00:57.120 three player this league. 0:01:01.320 --> 0:01:03.520 Hey say, man, we talk about this. Good to see 0:01:03.520 --> 0:01:05.119 you back in in the three strikes, Man. 0:01:05.200 --> 0:01:06.880 I mean, I gotta work something now with Jy'll. I'm 0:01:06.880 --> 0:01:09.800 about to go on my little rent like Bassie, shut 0:01:09.880 --> 0:01:14.080 up to the guy. 0:01:14.560 --> 0:01:18.600 We love you, we love you, we love you, but. 0:01:18.680 --> 0:01:19.280 Till my left. 0:01:19.319 --> 0:01:19.479 Man. 0:01:19.520 --> 0:01:21.319 We got a special special guest man, one of the 0:01:21.319 --> 0:01:23.640 coats to touch a basketball, like my bro said, top 0:01:23.680 --> 0:01:26.240 seventy five and he get busy off the court. You 0:01:26.240 --> 0:01:27.960 know what I'm saying, music going crazy and if you 0:01:28.000 --> 0:01:29.240 do too much, you know what I'm saying. The hands 0:01:29.280 --> 0:01:31.080 is legit too. We got wanted the coachters to ever 0:01:31.160 --> 0:01:33.680 do it. Dame Dalla Damian Little appreciate you sliding on 0:01:33.720 --> 0:01:34.160 this big. 0:01:34.080 --> 0:01:36.720 Dog for sure. Bro, appreciate you all having a. 0:01:36.800 --> 0:01:37.520 Long time coming. 0:01:37.600 --> 0:01:37.720 Man. 0:01:37.720 --> 0:01:39.680 People been asking for this episode, you know something, trying 0:01:39.680 --> 0:01:41.280 to make an all star, but know that the weather 0:01:41.360 --> 0:01:42.520 was too crazy. 0:01:42.760 --> 0:01:44.679 We got straight to it, man, But. 0:01:44.680 --> 0:01:46.479 Listen, we gotta start with the origins with you, man, 0:01:46.480 --> 0:01:49.680 because yo, yo, let your history, by your your career 0:01:49.680 --> 0:01:51.440 is so crazy. Be here. We got to talk about 0:01:51.440 --> 0:01:52.200 the high school days. 0:01:52.240 --> 0:01:52.800 You know what I'm saying. 0:01:53.080 --> 0:01:55.080 Yeah, man, I want to tap in with you. What's 0:01:55.120 --> 0:01:58.000 the let's go back all the way to you. Was 0:01:58.040 --> 0:02:00.200 you rocking with the guys or did you just know 0:02:00.440 --> 0:02:02.200 wink up with some guys that was already nice in 0:02:02.240 --> 0:02:03.360 the city with the rebels. 0:02:03.920 --> 0:02:09.000 No, that was like my childhood neighborhood type program. Yeah, okay, 0:02:09.880 --> 0:02:12.520 like I started with him in elementary school. 0:02:13.919 --> 0:02:14.560 And ship. 0:02:14.720 --> 0:02:18.240 That was like my first real friends outside of my 0:02:18.280 --> 0:02:21.600 cousins and my family. So shit, it was once I 0:02:21.639 --> 0:02:24.919 start getting nice then like the Soldiers and all those 0:02:24.960 --> 0:02:27.000 other you know, Nora Cali Lee. We had a couple 0:02:27.040 --> 0:02:30.920 other like programs that was sponsored. They was getting all 0:02:30.960 --> 0:02:34.919 the shoes. Yeah, but then I was like like these 0:02:35.000 --> 0:02:35.519 my people. 0:02:35.720 --> 0:02:37.000 You know what I'm saying. That's hard, bro. 0:02:37.840 --> 0:02:41.120 I stayed with the team. Uh shit. We was in 0:02:41.160 --> 0:02:42.960 the lower level tournaments. 0:02:42.960 --> 0:02:44.760 Then we got older, we started getting into the other 0:02:44.800 --> 0:02:46.200 ones because we was like way better. 0:02:46.240 --> 0:02:49.840 But that was it. I stayed with the local program. 0:02:51.440 --> 0:02:54.320 Him. Got a similar story guys too. That's why I 0:02:54.320 --> 0:02:55.480 wanted to ask you about that. 0:02:55.800 --> 0:02:58.519 I did that, but yeah, I switched my senior year. 0:03:00.600 --> 0:03:03.200 Rock was the guys like that, Bro, I wasn't getting offers. 0:03:03.600 --> 0:03:06.040 I was like, I forgo this out. Now we had 0:03:06.040 --> 0:03:07.560 the same team. We just went to one of those 0:03:07.560 --> 0:03:09.000 sponsored teams. That's all it was. 0:03:09.440 --> 0:03:11.440 Yeah, I ain't half we didn't, I ain't getting no 0:03:11.480 --> 0:03:13.920 offers to the very last summer. 0:03:14.320 --> 0:03:17.880 That's me. I was going to your senior year jump down. 0:03:18.280 --> 0:03:19.240 Who was your first one? 0:03:20.680 --> 0:03:22.640 Okay, that was my first offer. 0:03:22.680 --> 0:03:26.959 I remember we had uh we played against this dude 0:03:27.000 --> 0:03:29.639 that was from Texas, only remember his name. But it 0:03:29.720 --> 0:03:33.440 was a nine am game. We get there. It was empty, 0:03:33.520 --> 0:03:34.920 we was there was literally our team. 0:03:35.120 --> 0:03:35.560 They team. 0:03:35.560 --> 0:03:37.320 It was another game next to us, and it was 0:03:37.440 --> 0:03:39.320 one coach there that was a coach from Weaver, but 0:03:39.360 --> 0:03:42.120 he was there to see me and the other dude 0:03:43.320 --> 0:03:43.640 that game. 0:03:44.000 --> 0:03:46.160 They just offered me right after the game. Killed buddy. 0:03:46.480 --> 0:03:50.200 Yeah, yeah, took his spot. That was the story right there. 0:03:50.240 --> 0:03:52.760 It was over fast too. I've seen one coach. That 0:03:52.800 --> 0:03:54.840 was the first time a coach ever came our game. 0:03:54.720 --> 0:03:57.640 Too, So I was like crazy, damn. See I was 0:03:57.680 --> 0:03:59.920 just playing in front of Auntie's uncles. 0:04:00.040 --> 0:04:02.880 Not even that for real. Nobody we was in Oakland. 0:04:02.920 --> 0:04:07.440 Everybody came, but on it was just us. 0:04:07.240 --> 0:04:08.520 That's crazy. 0:04:08.680 --> 0:04:10.400 So for you to go to that head un til 0:04:10.440 --> 0:04:13.200 same year, it should start going crazy for you. Obviously, 0:04:13.240 --> 0:04:15.000 you already made that decision he was rocking with. Weaver stated, 0:04:15.000 --> 0:04:17.200 because they showed interested you early. How was it going 0:04:17.279 --> 0:04:19.560 to your like getting to college after that crazy high 0:04:19.560 --> 0:04:20.119 school career. 0:04:20.760 --> 0:04:25.159 I mean when I got there, it was it was cool, 0:04:25.160 --> 0:04:26.240 Like everybody was cool. 0:04:26.480 --> 0:04:26.600 Uh. 0:04:27.640 --> 0:04:29.400 They was just telling me like, man, you gotta earn 0:04:29.440 --> 0:04:32.240 your spot. And I remember thinking like, man, like I'm 0:04:32.279 --> 0:04:34.279 the best player they'd had come here in a minute, 0:04:34.279 --> 0:04:36.960 and they like, you know you missed class, were sending 0:04:37.000 --> 0:04:40.200 you home. It was just hella, damn. They just ran 0:04:40.279 --> 0:04:41.880 a tight shit, you know what I'm saying. It was 0:04:42.200 --> 0:04:44.320 first day I got there in the summer, it was conditioning, 0:04:44.400 --> 0:04:46.880 we running stadiums, all this crazy shit, and I remember 0:04:46.920 --> 0:04:50.360 thinking to myself, like, shit, I don't think I'm. 0:04:50.240 --> 0:04:52.560 Really cut for this. It's just crazy. 0:04:52.920 --> 0:04:55.920 Like I remember dying after conditioning and thinking like I 0:04:55.960 --> 0:04:58.560 really don't know if this shit is gonna work out 0:04:58.640 --> 0:04:59.520 because this crazy. 0:04:59.560 --> 0:05:00.600 If this would it take? 0:05:01.680 --> 0:05:05.000 So I got through the first day we started playing pickup. 0:05:05.040 --> 0:05:09.960 I couldn't score, Like everybody was stronger, faster, I couldn't 0:05:09.960 --> 0:05:13.120 get nothing done. So that was kind of when the 0:05:13.240 --> 0:05:15.279 transition for me started. I was like, all right, I 0:05:15.320 --> 0:05:17.760 gotta I got to answer the call like this shit 0:05:17.800 --> 0:05:20.560 harder than I thought it was gonna be. And then 0:05:20.600 --> 0:05:22.600 from there it was that was it, you know what 0:05:22.640 --> 0:05:24.760 I'm saying. I came off the bench like the first 0:05:24.800 --> 0:05:28.480 four or five games, and uh, then I got to 0:05:28.560 --> 0:05:31.600 the starting lineup. They had me at the two, and 0:05:31.640 --> 0:05:34.320 then the guy who was starting at the one. 0:05:34.560 --> 0:05:35.600 He actually here at camp. 0:05:35.640 --> 0:05:37.680 He was like five six, five seven, but he was 0:05:37.760 --> 0:05:41.520 just a straight score. And then they they switched us. 0:05:41.560 --> 0:05:43.280 They made me the point guard in him the two 0:05:43.320 --> 0:05:46.120 because I was more like a playmaker scorer and he 0:05:46.240 --> 0:05:49.120 was just getting buckets. And when they switched us, that's 0:05:49.120 --> 0:05:52.240 when that's when shit change. That's crazy. It's not like 0:05:52.240 --> 0:05:54.880 you getting recruited, you know what I'm saying. They tell you, hey, 0:05:54.960 --> 0:05:56.960 you the best. We can't wait till you get here, 0:05:56.960 --> 0:05:58.520 and you get there like you ain't really shit, you 0:05:58.560 --> 0:05:59.839 are your spot and on for real. 0:06:00.200 --> 0:06:00.480 For real. 0:06:00.680 --> 0:06:02.680 Me and him got a very similar story because that's 0:06:02.720 --> 0:06:04.880 how I was awake for us. I ain't started my 0:06:04.920 --> 0:06:07.400 first five six games. We had it'sh Smith, So it 0:06:07.600 --> 0:06:09.440 was started at the point and then I came in 0:06:09.520 --> 0:06:11.599 playing the two, and like you said, it kind of 0:06:11.640 --> 0:06:14.240 switched even though this was I was more of a 0:06:14.240 --> 0:06:16.520 score than this, but he broke his foot. That's how 0:06:16.520 --> 0:06:18.680 I got a chance to play point. But I was 0:06:18.720 --> 0:06:21.400 just thinking. I'm like, shit, you was a past first 0:06:21.440 --> 0:06:25.000 one ship. I know you for buckets because the first 0:06:25.040 --> 0:06:26.560 time I seen when you was at Weber State. 0:06:26.640 --> 0:06:28.279 It's my guy, Lou, I'll never forget. 0:06:28.320 --> 0:06:30.400 I think it might have been your junior year because 0:06:30.720 --> 0:06:32.600 my brother was a senior in high school, I think, 0:06:32.960 --> 0:06:35.039 and he was like, it's this dude a Weaver State. 0:06:35.120 --> 0:06:38.159 That's nasty. And I was like he nasty. Was like, man, 0:06:38.160 --> 0:06:40.960 he reminds me of like Stephan them at Day Davidson. 0:06:41.560 --> 0:06:44.280 I'm like, oh, this nigga gassing now, Like I ain't 0:06:44.320 --> 0:06:46.160 going for all that. Then he was like, no, you 0:06:46.200 --> 0:06:48.840 gotta watch you. So he the game came on, y'all 0:06:48.880 --> 0:06:51.480 came on latest. Hell, we watched it and you were 0:06:51.480 --> 0:06:55.960 shooting fadeaways. I'm like, buddy, got the greed. He wilding 0:06:56.240 --> 0:06:59.120 like he wilding here, but you have bounced. I'm like, 0:06:59.480 --> 0:07:01.280 he was like, bro, he gonna go top five. I 0:07:01.320 --> 0:07:02.360 was like, wait for State. 0:07:02.520 --> 0:07:02.800 He like. 0:07:03.040 --> 0:07:05.120 I was like, they ain't playing nobody. He was like, hey, 0:07:05.240 --> 0:07:08.080 you tripping, bro, watch what he's doing. And then the 0:07:08.080 --> 0:07:10.400 next year, my brother was in the draft and I 0:07:10.480 --> 0:07:12.520 never forgot like, you gotta go against this dude named 0:07:12.560 --> 0:07:13.960 Dang You gotta get to work out with him. 0:07:14.080 --> 0:07:15.960 That nigga to me and said, I ain't about. 0:07:15.800 --> 0:07:20.560 To work out against him. Said he was like, man, 0:07:20.600 --> 0:07:23.320 he going top five working out against him. I was 0:07:23.360 --> 0:07:24.160 like going top five. 0:07:24.200 --> 0:07:26.720 He was like, yeah, he liked that. He said, yeah, 0:07:26.800 --> 0:07:28.160 seen you at Adida's Nations. 0:07:28.800 --> 0:07:32.760 That bro, That's that's the funniest story because when I 0:07:32.960 --> 0:07:35.040 nobody knew who I was at Adida's Nation yet he 0:07:35.160 --> 0:07:37.680 was telling me that. But I seen like all of them. 0:07:38.040 --> 0:07:41.640 Obviously I knew who all them niggas was, but when 0:07:41.680 --> 0:07:45.040 I got there, everybody was like just staring at me, 0:07:45.080 --> 0:07:46.760 like who is Like, because they all knew each other, 0:07:46.840 --> 0:07:50.800 I was the only person nobody knew. So I remember 0:07:50.840 --> 0:07:52.800 one day I see them all like on the baseline, 0:07:52.840 --> 0:07:54.320 like in the group, and they all talking and they 0:07:54.440 --> 0:07:57.400 just kind of like looking at me. So I'm just 0:07:57.480 --> 0:07:59.240 kind of staring back, like, man, this is one of 0:07:59.240 --> 0:08:00.880 the moments I got to stay in my ground, like 0:08:00.920 --> 0:08:02.640 they all friends, Like, I don't know if they think 0:08:02.640 --> 0:08:03.000 I'm a. 0:08:03.160 --> 0:08:04.080 Sucker or something like. 0:08:06.360 --> 0:08:08.920 So they all had their little talk or whatever, and 0:08:08.960 --> 0:08:12.040 then Will Barton walked over there like, hey, like you 0:08:12.200 --> 0:08:14.559 de Ro's cousin. Like they thought I got in camp. 0:08:14.960 --> 0:08:16.960 I was a de Ro's cousin. I'm like, nah, I 0:08:17.000 --> 0:08:18.960 go to weeper. They're like okay. I'm like so the 0:08:19.000 --> 0:08:22.160 whole time, I'm thinking they talking shit or something. They 0:08:22.240 --> 0:08:25.120 thinking I'm in camp because I'm de Ro's cousin. Like 0:08:25.120 --> 0:08:26.600 that's how they thought I got in camp. 0:08:26.600 --> 0:08:28.080 That's crazy. Brother told me. 0:08:28.120 --> 0:08:29.840 They was like, bro, he was so cold, and he 0:08:29.960 --> 0:08:33.280 was like, nah, he cold. And then you went, nah, 0:08:33.280 --> 0:08:35.800 I played you my rookie. Yeall, never forget cause now 0:08:36.000 --> 0:08:38.440 I always had this thing about rookies. I'm like, if 0:08:38.520 --> 0:08:41.120 I can kill him the first time, it's gonna be 0:08:41.160 --> 0:08:43.480 in his head a little bit when we playing. And 0:08:43.559 --> 0:08:45.600 I seen you watch you sat there, you and DV 0:08:45.720 --> 0:08:47.839 y'all sit there before the game and like watch people 0:08:47.840 --> 0:08:50.160 warm up. I'm like, why are you watching me? 0:08:50.360 --> 0:08:51.440 Like what are you going? Like? 0:08:52.160 --> 0:08:53.520 I'm like, I'm about to get in his head. 0:08:53.679 --> 0:08:55.079 So I start woman up for you know, I don't 0:08:55.080 --> 0:08:57.280 even warm up part start woman apart. 0:08:57.120 --> 0:09:00.760 Shooting like yeah, he would pay me No. He was like. 0:09:01.760 --> 0:09:03.440 I was like, you know what, I'm going at him 0:09:03.520 --> 0:09:05.679 first place. I'm telling people like, hey, we're gonna see 0:09:05.720 --> 0:09:09.200 you can hoop. I'm like, damn, this nigga cold. He 0:09:09.240 --> 0:09:11.040 gave me with that Kyrie Mom. Remember when I called 0:09:11.040 --> 0:09:13.839 you about Kyrie. I called my brother. I said, Hey, 0:09:13.840 --> 0:09:17.640 the dude, dang man, he gonna be raw books done. 0:09:18.280 --> 0:09:20.520 He about to be the one. And after that it 0:09:20.600 --> 0:09:22.480 was over with. I was like, yeah, it's over with. 0:09:22.840 --> 0:09:23.520 He don't want. 0:09:24.920 --> 0:09:28.280 That's crazy, man, It's crazy for you to say that 0:09:28.360 --> 0:09:32.080 because I'm thinking the same thing against you, Like I remember, like, 0:09:32.640 --> 0:09:35.560 shit you Darren Collison. It was people that they never 0:09:35.760 --> 0:09:38.720 was talking about like that. I'm like, these these are 0:09:38.720 --> 0:09:42.800 the matchups that be the hard matchups, like fast getting 0:09:42.840 --> 0:09:44.040 to the rim, you got the balls. 0:09:44.120 --> 0:09:47.080 So it's like, it's crazy for me to hear you 0:09:47.120 --> 0:09:47.520 say that. 0:09:47.640 --> 0:09:50.320 When we come into the game and they like, you know, 0:09:51.120 --> 0:09:53.280 Jeff t you know he fast, he can shoot, hes 0:09:53.280 --> 0:09:56.040 gonna be coming off and transition you gotta stand. I'm like, damn, 0:09:56.160 --> 0:10:00.079 Like it's gonna be a tough one going drag it. 0:10:00.080 --> 0:10:02.200 It was the same thing like you had them matchups 0:10:02.200 --> 0:10:05.760 for it was like them the ones people ain't talking about. 0:10:05.800 --> 0:10:08.880 They're gonna tell you about c P and Darren Williams, 0:10:08.920 --> 0:10:11.200 but it's them nights where you show up and it's 0:10:11.280 --> 0:10:13.960 like it's a it's a tough matchup. 0:10:14.840 --> 0:10:17.920 I got this question, man, why the hell did you wears? 0:10:18.080 --> 0:10:21.400 Bro don't do that. 0:10:21.840 --> 0:10:26.199 I'm from Oakland, respect my college is in Ogden, Utah. 0:10:26.480 --> 0:10:28.520 And then I got drafted in Orgon. 0:10:28.840 --> 0:10:29.959 Okay, I was just. 0:10:31.440 --> 0:10:31.719 I don't know. 0:10:32.400 --> 0:10:34.800 I was just making sure that have story like him. 0:10:35.640 --> 0:10:37.480 Nigga wants to be named after I mean where it's 0:10:37.520 --> 0:10:40.160 number because of Drew. They had the mohawk to get 0:10:40.440 --> 0:10:42.840 the league was just asking you what you. 0:10:46.240 --> 0:10:47.959 Give them with my favorite players? 0:10:48.480 --> 0:10:53.920 Yea with Drew good on March man get I just 0:10:53.960 --> 0:10:57.959 had to ask that row getting. 0:10:59.679 --> 0:11:03.640 That's crazy that gonna put this outside up of this shit. Lewis, 0:11:03.679 --> 0:11:04.160 if you do that? 0:11:04.200 --> 0:11:05.040 Bro quick? 0:11:05.480 --> 0:11:07.720 Did you come into the league comfortable though, ready to 0:11:07.760 --> 0:11:09.240 go or it took you a while? 0:11:09.920 --> 0:11:10.000 No? 0:11:10.120 --> 0:11:10.719 I came in. 0:11:12.600 --> 0:11:15.480 I'll say I was comfortable, but I had like I 0:11:15.480 --> 0:11:18.079 remember during the summer after I got drafted, I was like, 0:11:18.559 --> 0:11:20.760 my trainer was training tomorrow, he was at camp today. 0:11:20.760 --> 0:11:21.319 He was over there. 0:11:22.240 --> 0:11:25.760 Oh yeah, I saw, and he started taking me to 0:11:25.960 --> 0:11:29.199 LA with him. So I was playing. I was working 0:11:29.240 --> 0:11:35.320 out playing ones with Corey mcghetty, Matt Barnes, Debo, Like 0:11:36.200 --> 0:11:39.000 I was going against big wings and they was all athletic, 0:11:39.040 --> 0:11:42.199 and they was all younger at that time. So when 0:11:42.200 --> 0:11:44.200 I start going to LA playing against them, and they 0:11:44.280 --> 0:11:47.360 was like backing up off me and I'm winning spots 0:11:47.360 --> 0:11:49.680 and ones because I'm just hitting jumpers. They letting me shoot. 0:11:49.760 --> 0:11:51.520 Then they see I can shoot, they was pressing up 0:11:51.520 --> 0:11:54.360 into me. I was able to get around them. Like 0:11:54.520 --> 0:11:56.160 just those like a couple of weeks that I was 0:11:56.160 --> 0:11:57.840 able to go out there and get with them. That 0:11:57.960 --> 0:12:00.560 was when I was like all right, like I'm gonna 0:12:00.559 --> 0:12:00.960 be straight. 0:12:01.360 --> 0:12:01.800 I got the. 0:12:01.720 --> 0:12:05.319 Summer league, and summer League was kind of easy, like 0:12:06.080 --> 0:12:08.000 it wasn't really a lot of dudes that's actually in 0:12:08.000 --> 0:12:11.199 the league out there. And then my first preseason game 0:12:11.280 --> 0:12:14.720 was against Kobe, Steve Nash, all of them, so like 0:12:14.760 --> 0:12:19.640 I got broke in quick. Yeah he was in earlier, Okay, 0:12:20.200 --> 0:12:21.800 And that's where, like you said, even you know what 0:12:21.800 --> 0:12:23.319 I'm saying, what you had to go through a weeper 0:12:23.400 --> 0:12:25.720 being in options later that kind of prepared you to 0:12:25.760 --> 0:12:27.800 go in be ready for the like to be a 0:12:27.800 --> 0:12:29.720 franchise player. A lot of times you go to schools, 0:12:29.720 --> 0:12:30.760 you got shit the ball a lot and then when 0:12:30.760 --> 0:12:32.520 you're thrown that situation, you gotta figure it out. Shit, 0:12:32.559 --> 0:12:34.440 you had already been thrown the fire. And I can 0:12:34.520 --> 0:12:37.400 imagine playing pick up with Corey mcgaeddiytth Orange. You was 0:12:37.480 --> 0:12:38.320 getting no foul off. 0:12:38.520 --> 0:12:39.120 Nah, they was. 0:12:39.240 --> 0:12:41.280 It was big and they was physical, so it was 0:12:41.360 --> 0:12:43.240 like they wasn't calling no fouls. 0:12:43.280 --> 0:12:44.400 It really was no fouls. 0:12:44.440 --> 0:12:47.280 So it was and I couldn't come in there calling 0:12:47.320 --> 0:12:49.079 fouls and they weren't gonna respect it. 0:12:49.160 --> 0:12:51.520 So it was that Shi. It was definitely. It was 0:12:51.559 --> 0:12:52.319 definitely good. 0:12:52.120 --> 0:12:54.120 For me for Kobe play in that first game. 0:12:54.240 --> 0:12:54.800 Yeah you did? 0:12:55.160 --> 0:12:59.280 How was that shit? The first five minutes, I was 0:12:59.320 --> 0:13:02.280 just staring at you. I'm like, oh, God, like that 0:13:03.480 --> 0:13:06.280 that's a real person. Yeah, like that's Kobe. But he 0:13:07.520 --> 0:13:09.440 he wasn't paying me no mind, you know what I'm saying. 0:13:09.480 --> 0:13:11.200 So when I got on the court, I'm thinking, you know, 0:13:11.240 --> 0:13:13.200 he gonna be like, welcome to the league, you know 0:13:13.320 --> 0:13:16.560 something like that. He ain't say shit, just so that 0:13:16.640 --> 0:13:19.520 kind of like put me back into being a competitor 0:13:19.600 --> 0:13:21.480 because it was like, you're naturally gonna take it a 0:13:21.480 --> 0:13:24.560 little personal, even if you feel like that's Kobe or 0:13:24.600 --> 0:13:25.600 that's Brian or whoever. 0:13:25.640 --> 0:13:27.200 I was like, damn, he ain't say nothing. 0:13:27.800 --> 0:13:31.280 So I'm like, shit, it's either me waiting to be 0:13:31.320 --> 0:13:33.920 a fan or I gotta do what I gotta do. 0:13:34.440 --> 0:13:36.400 It kind of it flipped back to that, you know, 0:13:37.000 --> 0:13:40.120 after a couple of minutes, I. 0:13:40.040 --> 0:13:42.000 Think it's dope that you got handed the balls soon 0:13:42.040 --> 0:13:44.080 as you got in the league, Like I want to 0:13:44.120 --> 0:13:45.640 ask you, you know, you know how I go so 0:13:45.760 --> 0:13:47.720 like if you didn't, how you think your career would 0:13:47.720 --> 0:13:49.560 have went? Like you would have had to sit and 0:13:49.640 --> 0:13:52.720 think about it. Like that was the worst part of me. 0:13:52.760 --> 0:13:54.360 I had to play. Were about to interview Bibby one 0:13:54.400 --> 0:13:56.320 of these days, but I had to sit behind Bibby 0:13:56.720 --> 0:13:58.840 and I used to just wait and wait and wait. 0:13:59.120 --> 0:14:00.959 You kind of lose your offense a little because you're like, 0:14:01.000 --> 0:14:05.560 it ain't no way. I'm this sad, but I'm glad 0:14:05.600 --> 0:14:06.880 they didn't do that to you. I'm glad you got 0:14:06.960 --> 0:14:08.880 hitted the ball because, like you said, you're a top 0:14:08.920 --> 0:14:10.679 seventy five player. I want the greatest to do it, 0:14:11.280 --> 0:14:13.920 Like what you did you want that moment like to 0:14:14.000 --> 0:14:15.840 learn or was you like like being thrown in the fire. 0:14:16.240 --> 0:14:19.800 I mean, I think, shit, a lot of people's career 0:14:19.960 --> 0:14:21.880 be dependent on that. Like there's a lot of dudes 0:14:21.880 --> 0:14:23.600 that if they come in and they get the ball 0:14:23.680 --> 0:14:25.600 right away they could have ain't no telling what they 0:14:25.640 --> 0:14:29.280 could have did that changed people careers. But when I 0:14:29.320 --> 0:14:32.120 got there, it was like coming from a small school, 0:14:32.120 --> 0:14:34.200 I was always telling myself like, shit, I might be 0:14:34.240 --> 0:14:36.440 in the G League, I might be on the bench. 0:14:36.680 --> 0:14:39.840 I ain't no telling. But I think once I got 0:14:39.840 --> 0:14:43.000 there and they was like, you know, he can shoot, 0:14:43.520 --> 0:14:46.800 he ain't scared. He playing with you know, LaMarcus Ardis, 0:14:46.840 --> 0:14:48.080 We was able to play off each other. 0:14:48.120 --> 0:14:50.480 They was just like they let me go. 0:14:51.000 --> 0:14:53.400 And I think just like how I was able to 0:14:53.400 --> 0:14:56.400 get along with Vets so fast, Like I played with 0:14:57.160 --> 0:15:00.440 Jared Jefferes and Ronnie Price, so once I was able 0:15:00.440 --> 0:15:02.400 to earn their respect and I was able to be 0:15:02.440 --> 0:15:05.720 on the court with them, That's when our coach was 0:15:05.760 --> 0:15:08.440 just kind of like, you know, just let me learn. 0:15:08.520 --> 0:15:10.440 He just let me go. And I think that was 0:15:10.480 --> 0:15:12.280 a big part of it. Is like you said. Being 0:15:12.320 --> 0:15:15.520 at we were for four years, I was an extension 0:15:15.520 --> 0:15:18.000 of the coach, so I knew how to I knew 0:15:18.040 --> 0:15:20.480 how to like get my words off through the team. 0:15:20.520 --> 0:15:21.800 You know what I'm saying. I knew how to lead 0:15:21.840 --> 0:15:23.480 a team. I knew how to do the right thing. 0:15:24.800 --> 0:15:26.400 I knew what it took, you know what I'm saying, 0:15:26.480 --> 0:15:29.720 to be the guy, but also like not make it 0:15:29.760 --> 0:15:32.240 all about me where everybody felt like they part of it. 0:15:32.320 --> 0:15:33.840 So coming in and. 0:15:33.800 --> 0:15:38.320 Playing with Batum and Wes Matthews and La, Robin Lopez, 0:15:38.360 --> 0:15:41.320 all them dudes, it was like I knew how to 0:15:41.360 --> 0:15:44.400 be there and be the point guard they need it, 0:15:44.440 --> 0:15:45.920 but I knew how to not get in their way 0:15:45.960 --> 0:15:48.280 too and stop them from being able to La get 0:15:48.320 --> 0:15:51.520 his twenty four attempts, but to him handling the ball 0:15:51.600 --> 0:15:54.160 sometimes and Wes getting post ups. Like I was aware 0:15:54.200 --> 0:15:57.200 of that because of my experience and being in school 0:15:57.200 --> 0:16:00.400 for four years. So ain't no telling how I would 0:16:00.400 --> 0:16:01.920 have went bro. I think I would have. I would 0:16:01.920 --> 0:16:04.080 have been straight regardless. But I think them giving me 0:16:04.120 --> 0:16:06.480 the ball right away to play is what kind of 0:16:06.520 --> 0:16:08.200 let me just jump out there and get on the 0:16:08.240 --> 0:16:09.760 track that I that I've been on. 0:16:10.480 --> 0:16:12.560 I was ready you already. 0:16:12.920 --> 0:16:16.080 I was in Atlanta. 0:16:14.960 --> 0:16:18.440 I went to the perfect environment too, like going to 0:16:18.480 --> 0:16:22.080 Portland that was right by Oakland. Family could come, like 0:16:22.120 --> 0:16:24.880 some of my family moved up there. It was like quiet. 0:16:25.280 --> 0:16:27.840 It was a perfect environment. Did you go to mawk 0:16:27.920 --> 0:16:29.840 when you got to the league? What did you want 0:16:30.600 --> 0:16:35.680 on that? But how was it playing with l A 0:16:35.880 --> 0:16:36.840 Man we be. 0:16:37.160 --> 0:16:39.400 We one of the more underwrited players. 0:16:40.280 --> 0:16:42.320 L A was like, that makes sure easier for you? 0:16:42.840 --> 0:16:45.440 Made it way easier. I mean teams was really paying 0:16:45.480 --> 0:16:46.160 attention to him. 0:16:46.280 --> 0:16:46.680 So like. 0:16:48.280 --> 0:16:50.640 Being in the pick and roll with him, like he popping, 0:16:50.720 --> 0:16:53.640 he making every jumper, I'm throwing it to him on 0:16:53.680 --> 0:16:54.120 the block. 0:16:55.680 --> 0:16:56.640 They going to get him. 0:16:56.720 --> 0:17:00.480 I'm standing there by myself like coming off picking rolls 0:17:00.520 --> 0:17:02.480 his man trying to get back to him. So I'm 0:17:02.520 --> 0:17:05.679 getting Like my rookieyear, I started every game with an 0:17:05.720 --> 0:17:08.000 elbow pull up jumper off pick and roll, like I 0:17:08.040 --> 0:17:10.879 literally won two three dribbles to the elbow, pull up 0:17:10.960 --> 0:17:14.480 everything because they trying to get back to him. Then 0:17:14.600 --> 0:17:16.600 ship once they saw I could make it, I still 0:17:16.680 --> 0:17:18.880 was getting pull up three off the pick and roll. 0:17:18.960 --> 0:17:22.239 Damn there every time, So like playing with him. I 0:17:22.320 --> 0:17:24.399 was like, one thing I think about in my career 0:17:24.480 --> 0:17:27.600 is like, if he would have never went to San Antonio, 0:17:27.760 --> 0:17:30.600 we would have won at least once already because he 0:17:30.920 --> 0:17:32.920 couldn't because I would have came into my own. 0:17:33.440 --> 0:17:34.480 But he was that good. 0:17:34.720 --> 0:17:36.000 Facts like, he. 0:17:36.119 --> 0:17:36.680 Was that good. 0:17:36.760 --> 0:17:40.119 It was fact and batoon, motherfucker sleep on batoon. Batoon 0:17:40.280 --> 0:17:40.840 was nice. 0:17:40.880 --> 0:17:44.679 Bro Bro killing last season. Bro, he just killed this 0:17:44.760 --> 0:17:45.480 last post season. 0:17:45.720 --> 0:17:50.080 He was he was. I hated playing now. They used 0:17:50.080 --> 0:17:52.000 to do this little flairge little will you know we 0:17:52.040 --> 0:17:52.320 do that? 0:17:52.359 --> 0:17:52.560 Pike. 0:17:53.080 --> 0:17:56.959 I took y'all playing, Yeah, that's our that's that's our offense. 0:17:57.400 --> 0:18:00.000 I used to I used to hate guarded so much. 0:18:00.000 --> 0:18:01.480 I was like, it's no way you can't use it. 0:18:01.480 --> 0:18:04.480 It's terrible. Y'are doing all these flares. And when you 0:18:04.560 --> 0:18:07.919 was guarding him, especially when CJ started playing, well it 0:18:07.960 --> 0:18:10.399 was it was super effective with West and Patun But 0:18:10.440 --> 0:18:12.720 when CJ started playing, y'all had the hand doing stuff 0:18:12.720 --> 0:18:14.720 with and I'm like, they're getting filthy out here now. 0:18:14.800 --> 0:18:18.800 Yeah, we was using it. Running off that I was 0:18:18.800 --> 0:18:19.840 like getting fifty you know. 0:18:19.960 --> 0:18:22.920 So that offense was crazy, But playing them, you knew 0:18:22.920 --> 0:18:25.159 you was about to get you played in Portland, he 0:18:25.200 --> 0:18:27.280 was getting beat we knew from the East Coast team. 0:18:27.280 --> 0:18:29.400 He was like, you're gonna take hell in Portland. It's cool, though. 0:18:29.760 --> 0:18:34.160 It's hard to win there, especially when travel. That crowds crazy, 0:18:34.359 --> 0:18:35.800 ye heard y'all. 0:18:35.800 --> 0:18:38.000 And Sacramento got one of the two of the toughest 0:18:38.000 --> 0:18:38.760 crowds in the NBA. 0:18:39.320 --> 0:18:41.320 It used to be like that. That just got like 0:18:41.400 --> 0:18:43.600 that over the last couple of years. It was like 0:18:43.600 --> 0:18:46.960 that with Bib and them down for a while and 0:18:47.000 --> 0:18:49.560 then the last I say two three years it got crazy. 0:18:50.240 --> 0:18:50.800 Yeah. 0:18:51.040 --> 0:18:52.960 Just speaking that, I gotta ask, what's the most hostile 0:18:53.040 --> 0:18:54.960 game you've been there, like as far as like environment, 0:18:55.119 --> 0:19:02.359 like location wise, man, because you don't have been to 0:19:02.400 --> 0:19:06.720 some battles I say, either at Golden State or at 0:19:06.760 --> 0:19:11.200 OKC like when they was nice, nice like at okay See. 0:19:12.480 --> 0:19:14.560 But Golden State just tough because like. 0:19:14.560 --> 0:19:18.760 Playing them in the playoffs, you like, we played them 0:19:18.800 --> 0:19:21.800 I think my fifth year, or maybe it was my 0:19:21.840 --> 0:19:23.679 fourth year. It was my fourth year. We played them 0:19:23.680 --> 0:19:27.000 in the second round. We beat the Clippers. We played 0:19:27.320 --> 0:19:30.119 Golden State and we was up double digits every game, 0:19:31.840 --> 0:19:34.200 and I'm like, man, we like we lost four to one, 0:19:34.320 --> 0:19:37.080 but we could have beat them for to one, but 0:19:37.760 --> 0:19:40.840 we'd be up nine and it'll be five minutes left 0:19:40.880 --> 0:19:43.240 in the third quarter. We going to the fourth quarter 0:19:43.840 --> 0:19:47.040 down eight, and it's like it happened fast too. 0:19:47.119 --> 0:19:48.560 It's like they hit one three. 0:19:49.359 --> 0:19:52.040 You hear the crowd, You see everybody stand up and 0:19:53.040 --> 0:19:54.960 somebody taking the ball out and you just looking around 0:19:55.040 --> 0:19:58.520 like damn, it feel like we down twenty, they come 0:19:58.560 --> 0:20:00.879 back hit another one. It's like, just see the game 0:20:01.080 --> 0:20:03.920 just that was That's the only crowd I played against 0:20:04.560 --> 0:20:07.439 at Oracle or like we could be winning and it 0:20:07.480 --> 0:20:09.960 felt like the game was like slipping away. 0:20:10.440 --> 0:20:10.760 Damn. 0:20:11.080 --> 0:20:14.119 Like that's how crazy it was in there. Like Steph 0:20:14.160 --> 0:20:16.280 hit a three play hit it three like time out 0:20:16.320 --> 0:20:17.680 like that, walked back to the bench. 0:20:17.800 --> 0:20:18.960 Was like devastating. 0:20:19.840 --> 0:20:27.040 Damn toughest matchup, bro, Golden State, It's what Steph? You 0:20:27.119 --> 0:20:28.080 and Steph one on one? 0:20:29.240 --> 0:20:33.000 Uh? I mean Stephan, he just he just constantly moving. Yeah, 0:20:33.560 --> 0:20:36.840 you just can't lose track of Steph. Like he he 0:20:36.960 --> 0:20:39.720 definitely wanted the toughest. I think just one on one. 0:20:39.840 --> 0:20:45.120 I say, like, Kyrie, a tough matchup. What's up, Kyrie? 0:20:45.320 --> 0:20:48.680 Just a tough because you can guard him perfect, he'll 0:20:48.720 --> 0:20:52.639 still make it either hand bumping them like fat like it, 0:20:52.840 --> 0:20:55.080 like he just and he he do it when it 0:20:55.119 --> 0:20:58.240 don't look like it's hard too. Somebody do it and 0:20:58.280 --> 0:21:00.199 they feel like they just did it smooth and it's 0:21:00.280 --> 0:21:04.560 all that. You'd be like, damn, like that can turn 0:21:04.600 --> 0:21:06.480 into him making every shot. 0:21:07.720 --> 0:21:09.000 He spoke on Kyrie early. 0:21:09.880 --> 0:21:12.280 At one point in my career, I guarded Kyrie more 0:21:12.280 --> 0:21:13.240 than anybody in the NBA. 0:21:13.400 --> 0:21:16.280 Y'all played the line get killed every time. 0:21:19.000 --> 0:21:19.040 No. 0:21:19.200 --> 0:21:22.479 I was when I was in Milwaukee. They was like 0:21:22.880 --> 0:21:24.520 he was playing Brooklyn. It was like, you can guard him. 0:21:24.520 --> 0:21:26.240 You guard him the most of anybody in his career. 0:21:26.480 --> 0:21:28.000 I was like, put that better. 0:21:28.680 --> 0:21:31.320 We got swept every year, don't guess. 0:21:31.560 --> 0:21:34.200 Trying to get you to believe, trying to like, nah, 0:21:34.240 --> 0:21:37.320 I was already done. I don't believe that you're gonna 0:21:37.320 --> 0:21:40.919 stay on him, hurt him, hurt Kyrie. 0:21:41.440 --> 0:21:44.320 Yeah, he twisted his ankle, but I wasn't getting in 0:21:44.320 --> 0:21:48.960 it anyway. But I was gonna say, you have battles, 0:21:49.000 --> 0:21:52.000 for sure, but my favorite battle between you and the guards. 0:21:52.040 --> 0:21:53.720 I used to watch all y'all games, but you and 0:21:53.760 --> 0:21:57.439 Westbrook got together. I was like, oh yeah, this this 0:21:57.600 --> 0:22:01.639 musty TV. Yeah, because y'all, y'all both tough minded guards. 0:22:01.640 --> 0:22:04.359 We're both gonna talk yp pop yall ship you don't 0:22:04.400 --> 0:22:05.160 really talk like. 0:22:05.160 --> 0:22:07.400 Somebody say something to you then you will go back. 0:22:08.080 --> 0:22:11.680 But him, he don't get he's starting. He started every time. 0:22:11.760 --> 0:22:13.840 I remember one time he did that to me. I 0:22:13.880 --> 0:22:16.120 was like, bro, I don't care. He was like, that's 0:22:16.119 --> 0:22:25.880 the problem. That's the problem. Again it was a problem 0:22:25.880 --> 0:22:29.720 on the trip. No, but what's those battles? 0:22:29.720 --> 0:22:32.960 Like I mean it, honestly, that was the most fun, 0:22:33.080 --> 0:22:38.240 like with Russ because it was like my first five 0:22:38.440 --> 0:22:42.560 six years, like he was the bully, like they was 0:22:42.600 --> 0:22:46.800 on TV all the time. And Russ it didn't matter 0:22:46.840 --> 0:22:50.880 if it was like a big matchup, if somebody was hurting, 0:22:50.880 --> 0:22:53.240 he was playing against the backup. He didn't care. He 0:22:53.359 --> 0:22:57.880 tried to do it to everybody. And I just remember 0:22:57.920 --> 0:23:02.840 when when I was like rookie second year, it was 0:23:02.920 --> 0:23:06.080 like he used to try to give me fifty every time, 0:23:06.520 --> 0:23:09.000 Like it was like he would be shooting on me 0:23:09.119 --> 0:23:11.840 so much that like KD would be getting mad, like 0:23:12.000 --> 0:23:15.240 past the ball, like he's shooting every time. And once 0:23:15.280 --> 0:23:18.000 I realized that it was like that. That's when I 0:23:18.200 --> 0:23:20.159 started taking in person. I'm like this, like I know 0:23:20.240 --> 0:23:23.600 he always on go against everybody, but he really trying 0:23:23.600 --> 0:23:24.520 to like come get me. 0:23:25.960 --> 0:23:28.439 And that was like when it became personal. So I. 0:23:29.960 --> 0:23:32.160 Start going back and then I start having the ball 0:23:32.240 --> 0:23:34.840 more once like you know we did our rebuild, I 0:23:34.920 --> 0:23:38.720 start having it more, and you know, he noticed that 0:23:38.760 --> 0:23:40.560 I was having it more, so I was being more 0:23:40.560 --> 0:23:43.479 aggressive back at him, and then that's when it had 0:23:43.480 --> 0:23:45.800 turned into like talking. You know, I've been busting your 0:23:45.840 --> 0:23:48.679 ass for years and I'd be like, yeah, well, like 0:23:49.000 --> 0:23:52.160 it's a new time. Like so we started having that conversation. 0:23:54.200 --> 0:23:57.000 It just turned into every game it was automatic, like 0:23:57.040 --> 0:24:00.760 I came to the arena knowing like it's on the night, 0:24:01.080 --> 0:24:01.920 like something happening. 0:24:02.920 --> 0:24:05.440 I thought you had real, like be for real because 0:24:05.480 --> 0:24:07.960 it just seems so tense to know it's just coming 0:24:07.960 --> 0:24:10.080 from him just on bs, just trying to. 0:24:10.000 --> 0:24:10.280 Get on. 0:24:12.720 --> 0:24:15.680 Like that. He had cool to us. Its cool off 0:24:15.720 --> 0:24:18.879 the court, we're cool like, but on the court, it 0:24:19.000 --> 0:24:22.080 was just like he took that approach and like, ain't 0:24:22.119 --> 0:24:23.000 nobody punking me. 0:24:23.040 --> 0:24:24.520 I don't care who you. 0:24:24.640 --> 0:24:27.440 Is turning you up? Though it did for sure yeah, 0:24:27.880 --> 0:24:31.879 you ain't see the playoffs. I mean got back the 0:24:31.880 --> 0:24:35.400 blood because Pat said he was the bully of the NBA. 0:24:35.560 --> 0:24:36.840 So here you go. 0:24:42.000 --> 0:24:53.159 Stop continue God, I don't want to rule it. 0:24:52.520 --> 0:24:56.879 Oh you fried man. 0:24:58.280 --> 0:24:58.440 Man. 0:24:58.440 --> 0:24:59.800 I got to ask I always want to ask you this, 0:24:59.840 --> 0:25:03.240 ques Es, what's your favorite game winner between the One 0:25:03.280 --> 0:25:05.320 and Portland? You know what I'm saying, coming off the 0:25:05.359 --> 0:25:08.440 curl knocking it down or the bad shot quote unquote 0:25:09.480 --> 0:25:11.119 the bad shot. 0:25:11.560 --> 0:25:13.200 That's that's my favorite one for sure. 0:25:13.520 --> 0:25:15.399 I know that was a personal comption for you, obviously 0:25:15.480 --> 0:25:17.040 winning the series. But do you know what you did 0:25:17.119 --> 0:25:18.040 to the internet with that shot? 0:25:18.080 --> 0:25:18.240 Bro? 0:25:18.480 --> 0:25:20.679 You fucked everything up that shot. That was probably one 0:25:20.720 --> 0:25:22.720 of the hardest edits, the filest stretch my head. So 0:25:22.800 --> 0:25:24.760 that shot is one of the hardest basketball edits. 0:25:24.520 --> 0:25:24.920 Of all time. 0:25:24.960 --> 0:25:25.080 Bro. 0:25:25.160 --> 0:25:28.160 Yeah, that that that was a moment for sure. Yeah, 0:25:28.240 --> 0:25:30.320 and you you definitely when it happened. I ain't even 0:25:30.359 --> 0:25:33.480 think about it like that until you know after the game, 0:25:33.520 --> 0:25:36.399 you do media, all the shower, you do all that stuff, 0:25:36.400 --> 0:25:38.600 and then like you finally get to your phone, Like 0:25:39.160 --> 0:25:41.200 I look at my phone right after, but then when 0:25:41.240 --> 0:25:43.560 you go into that whole post game process, it's like 0:25:43.600 --> 0:25:45.320 a little minute in the playoffs for you get to 0:25:45.359 --> 0:25:48.879 your phone and I just remember after that, I was 0:25:48.880 --> 0:25:50.600 in a sprinter, I was on my way back home, 0:25:51.400 --> 0:25:53.000 and I was just sitting there on my phone and 0:25:53.040 --> 0:25:56.359 I was like, it was so much shit that happened 0:25:56.400 --> 0:25:58.480 that I ain't even remember it happening. Like I looked 0:25:58.520 --> 0:26:01.200 up into the camera. I ain't even remember that moment. 0:26:01.440 --> 0:26:06.359 Crazy picture, crazy. It was just that whole ship was 0:26:07.080 --> 0:26:09.520 It was a blur until I saw it. I was like, damn, 0:26:10.000 --> 0:26:17.520 you remember waving though, I remember that. I remember you waved. 0:26:17.880 --> 0:26:19.520 I don't know if it was your brother or something. 0:26:19.680 --> 0:26:21.720 My brother right there, yeah he came. 0:26:21.800 --> 0:26:22.879 I said, oh they are. 0:26:24.640 --> 0:26:27.200 But that's how you know when it be personal because 0:26:27.200 --> 0:26:29.719 you got a brother. So you know when like just 0:26:29.760 --> 0:26:32.440 like I know, like what type of when I come 0:26:32.480 --> 0:26:34.800 into the game, I'm playing against Russ or whatever, Like 0:26:34.840 --> 0:26:36.960 you see russ brother sitting in the courtside too, Like 0:26:37.000 --> 0:26:41.320 everybody who got a brother, you know, like when you 0:26:41.359 --> 0:26:43.600 go home or when you step away, your brother is 0:26:43.600 --> 0:26:46.480 the one that your like, man, he got you up. 0:26:46.560 --> 0:26:48.120 No ever, you know what I'm saying, Like it's that 0:26:48.160 --> 0:26:51.840 type of conversation. So it's that type of investment. So 0:26:51.920 --> 0:26:54.040 when it happened like that, he was like, shit, he 0:26:54.160 --> 0:26:54.760 made the shot. 0:26:55.560 --> 0:26:57.840 Just what It's like, you knew you was gonna take 0:26:57.840 --> 0:26:59.879 that shot, though, you do it. 0:27:00.280 --> 0:27:03.840 I knew after about like when the clock got like 0:27:03.960 --> 0:27:05.679 I remember, I was about to call for a switch 0:27:05.760 --> 0:27:08.720 to get PG off me. I was calling for another defender. 0:27:09.680 --> 0:27:12.200 But then he was a little bit like back a 0:27:12.280 --> 0:27:14.600 little bit, so I kind of waved them off, like 0:27:15.080 --> 0:27:16.719 and right when I waved them off, I was like, 0:27:16.760 --> 0:27:17.640 I'm shooting. 0:27:17.280 --> 0:27:18.120 This shit right here. 0:27:18.480 --> 0:27:20.720 Damn you know how far you was, Bro, That's what 0:27:20.800 --> 0:27:24.000 I was saying. Bro, you shot that bitch from Yonder Bro. 0:27:24.280 --> 0:27:27.000 What's crazy? Is my trainer Field, the one that's running 0:27:27.040 --> 0:27:31.600 the camp. He came to OKC like after I think 0:27:31.640 --> 0:27:33.720 it was like after game three he came to Okay. See, 0:27:33.720 --> 0:27:36.639 we was in the arena shooting and that whole series, 0:27:36.640 --> 0:27:38.200 we were shooting at night, and I was just shooting 0:27:38.200 --> 0:27:39.960 a bunch of deep threes, and he was like, you're gonna, 0:27:40.040 --> 0:27:42.960 like you gotta make these, like You're gonna keep making 0:27:43.000 --> 0:27:46.040 these in the whole series. I was just hitting deep 0:27:46.040 --> 0:27:48.760 three after deep three. So when it got to that 0:27:48.920 --> 0:27:52.280 end of the game, like I just remember like CJ 0:27:52.440 --> 0:27:53.800 was like to my right and I could just see 0:27:53.800 --> 0:27:57.520 his arm like telling me like go, like it's time 0:27:57.560 --> 0:27:59.520 to go. But I already knew in my head, like 0:28:00.160 --> 0:28:02.720 he stayed right there, like I'm shooting this ship right here. 0:28:02.880 --> 0:28:03.879 You go there for that. 0:28:05.600 --> 0:28:07.400 And it was a tie game, so I'm like if 0:28:07.400 --> 0:28:12.359 I missed over, yeah, that's crazy. And that shot got 0:28:12.359 --> 0:28:14.040 brought originally again because we watched the Steph in the 0:28:14.040 --> 0:28:15.840 Olympics and that shot that he hit and the gold 0:28:15.840 --> 0:28:17.840 medal game was just like that was crazy. 0:28:17.960 --> 0:28:19.040 That's just different. 0:28:18.800 --> 0:28:20.480 Ship, Like I just get it like that, And a 0:28:20.520 --> 0:28:22.600 lot of people talk about obviously we know stuff to go, 0:28:23.080 --> 0:28:25.200 like you one of the best shooters of all time 0:28:25.280 --> 0:28:27.160 that don't get enough credit on that because you really 0:28:27.200 --> 0:28:29.480 go crazy, like we were looking at the highlights, but 0:28:29.520 --> 0:28:31.440 you they don't talk about enough. 0:28:31.480 --> 0:28:36.879 Bro number two with him and Clay number two because 0:28:36.880 --> 0:28:38.640 I feel like I feel like you can shoot off 0:28:38.640 --> 0:28:42.640 the dribble better though. I mean, Clay, I ain't gonna 0:28:42.640 --> 0:28:46.440 lie because he us and I got a different view. 0:28:46.480 --> 0:28:46.640 Like. 0:28:49.080 --> 0:28:52.320 Yeah I got PTSD from Clay, but the way you 0:28:52.320 --> 0:28:54.200 can shoot off the dribble though, I put that. 0:28:54.200 --> 0:28:56.120 In like you on stuff in a different run with 0:28:56.160 --> 0:28:56.920 that the. 0:28:56.960 --> 0:29:00.640 Hardest shot, they more contested people guarding you harder. You 0:29:00.640 --> 0:29:04.560 know what I'm saying, Like it's it's different, bro. Hell, Yeah, 0:29:04.840 --> 0:29:07.120 they definitely don't. They definitely don't talk about it. They 0:29:07.120 --> 0:29:09.880 act like I don't be doing what I've been doing, 0:29:09.920 --> 0:29:11.440 Like this may be my thirteen season. 0:29:11.840 --> 0:29:13.840 You've been going crazy for a long time. 0:29:13.920 --> 0:29:19.960 Still you've been cold. That's what we want crazy because 0:29:20.920 --> 0:29:23.440 it's been a long time. Like I'm just saying, it's 0:29:23.800 --> 0:29:26.760 like my time in the league when you when I 0:29:26.880 --> 0:29:29.960 think about, like how many people have been very good, 0:29:30.640 --> 0:29:32.960 like over that time, and then there's been more people 0:29:33.240 --> 0:29:35.320 very good and more people very good for a couple 0:29:35.360 --> 0:29:38.640 of years, Like it ain't been that many people that 0:29:38.800 --> 0:29:41.160 been here the whole time, Like since I've been in 0:29:41.240 --> 0:29:43.560 the league, that just been doing it like over and 0:29:43.680 --> 0:29:46.560 over and over. But I think people just get bored 0:29:46.640 --> 0:29:51.520 with consistency. And I ain't loud, but like, should I 0:29:51.640 --> 0:29:53.800 been doing it that long and winning? Like it ain't 0:29:53.840 --> 0:29:55.840 like I've been doing it and I'm playing fourteen that 0:29:56.040 --> 0:29:59.720 just never been in the playoffs, Like, yeah, poor season 0:29:59.760 --> 0:30:03.040 before or last Brad average thirty almost thirty three game. Bro. No, 0:30:03.160 --> 0:30:06.240 I know, Like, it's hard average dub in the league 0:30:06.320 --> 0:30:09.720 for a decade. Bro, it's crazy. I've been over twenty 0:30:09.800 --> 0:30:12.680 five for damn near eight nine years. 0:30:12.760 --> 0:30:18.200 What another I gotta stop cussing. But another person, you 0:30:18.280 --> 0:30:24.120 know how I get that botherfucking c Yeah ship too, 0:30:24.200 --> 0:30:25.440 But I'm saying that goes to you. 0:30:25.720 --> 0:30:30.080 Like, but I always told CJ, like I could think 0:30:30.120 --> 0:30:32.680 of games where CJ come out hot. He got eighteen 0:30:32.760 --> 0:30:35.200 in the first quarter. I ain't trying to get my 0:30:35.360 --> 0:30:38.520 twenty two like CJ. I remember one game he was 0:30:38.520 --> 0:30:40.800 playing against Chicago, he had fifty and three quarters. I 0:30:40.880 --> 0:30:45.200 think I just didn't shoot, kept giving it to him, 0:30:45.440 --> 0:30:49.840 like because I'm I want to see everybody do their thing. 0:30:50.080 --> 0:30:52.240 Like, Yeah, if I'm gonna have I'm gonna have a 0:30:52.280 --> 0:30:52.920 lot of moments. 0:30:53.000 --> 0:30:56.080 I want to make sure that when it's somebody else moment, 0:30:56.080 --> 0:30:58.320 I'm gonna let him have a moment because I won't. 0:30:58.480 --> 0:31:00.200 I want niggas to be happy for me and I 0:31:00.320 --> 0:31:02.840 have mine, So I ain't gonna try to be hogging 0:31:02.880 --> 0:31:04.040 at the moment all the time. 0:31:04.160 --> 0:31:06.200 So it seemed like the media trying to break out 0:31:06.280 --> 0:31:08.680 up for a long time, Bro, trying to separate your 0:31:08.880 --> 0:31:11.480 saying I was too small, Like so that goes to 0:31:11.560 --> 0:31:13.680 show what type of person you are, for shure to 0:31:13.760 --> 0:31:15.680 let him rock out like that for sure. 0:31:15.720 --> 0:31:17.480 Even to see you like how you and brace Simon 0:31:17.560 --> 0:31:19.320 is like nah, Bro, like I'll show you how to 0:31:19.360 --> 0:31:21.200 get to it. And you can see the direct reflection 0:31:21.360 --> 0:31:23.160 of that, Like obviously you could tell Bro in that 0:31:23.240 --> 0:31:25.040 locker room of your presence is felt. Bro, you show 0:31:25.120 --> 0:31:26.760 love and that's like even with you, like you said 0:31:26.760 --> 0:31:28.760 when you got no starting position, all right, I'm straight. 0:31:28.800 --> 0:31:29.960 I'm gonna make sure my backup. 0:31:29.960 --> 0:31:31.040 He's gonna get his breath. 0:31:30.840 --> 0:31:31.960 Too, and that was my goal. 0:31:32.080 --> 0:31:35.400 But like what he does is not normal, like especially 0:31:35.400 --> 0:31:39.120 as a friend showing people love that essentially it's supposed 0:31:39.120 --> 0:31:41.600 to take your spot, and that's not what when I 0:31:41.720 --> 0:31:43.720 was coming in the league, Like people weren't really doing that, 0:31:43.800 --> 0:31:46.520 Like nobody was doing a camp or they invite guys 0:31:46.600 --> 0:31:47.960 to come and work out with them to show. 0:31:47.800 --> 0:31:50.719 What you do to help them get better because they 0:31:50.760 --> 0:31:51.440 want your spot. 0:31:52.160 --> 0:31:56.760 I mean, I know, Bro, Like to me, I'm looking 0:31:56.800 --> 0:31:59.080 at the game and how like these dudes coming in 0:31:59.120 --> 0:32:02.000 and behaving and I'm looking at a lot of weird behavior, 0:32:02.960 --> 0:32:05.520 like how they handle success, like the shit that they're 0:32:05.560 --> 0:32:08.000 doing and what they're saying and how they act when 0:32:08.040 --> 0:32:11.960 they have some success, and I'm just like that, ain't 0:32:12.680 --> 0:32:15.320 that shit is not gonna last. And then when they 0:32:15.400 --> 0:32:17.400 stopped working and it don't work, and then they down 0:32:17.560 --> 0:32:20.960 bad and they broken up about it, Ain't nobody gonna 0:32:20.960 --> 0:32:21.440 come save you. 0:32:21.480 --> 0:32:23.320 Ain't nobody gonna care. So I'm just trying to. 0:32:23.440 --> 0:32:26.280 I'm trying to touch them and reach out and give 0:32:26.320 --> 0:32:28.400 them everything that I know because I know it's gonna 0:32:28.400 --> 0:32:32.800 give them a chance to sustain it. So like all 0:32:32.840 --> 0:32:35.320 of them dudes that's behind me, like I'm gonna give 0:32:35.320 --> 0:32:37.600 them everything because I'm not in competition with them, Like 0:32:38.080 --> 0:32:39.920 I know I'm gonna win. I already been winning, and 0:32:40.040 --> 0:32:43.720 it ain't because I've been hating on somebody or holding out. 0:32:43.760 --> 0:32:46.560 That's actually why I keep winning because I'm not hating 0:32:46.600 --> 0:32:50.920 and I'm sharing it and putting the next player, young player, 0:32:51.040 --> 0:32:54.520 whatever in position to do what they gonna do because 0:32:54.520 --> 0:32:57.040 I'm what's for me is for me, Like I'm gonna 0:32:57.080 --> 0:33:00.280 be me all the time, and it ain't it ain't 0:33:00.280 --> 0:33:00.760 gonna stop. 0:33:01.360 --> 0:33:04.320 That's rue. Everybody ain't like that, Bro. I remember my 0:33:04.360 --> 0:33:06.200 guy ets just always tell me that about you. 0:33:06.320 --> 0:33:06.440 Man. 0:33:06.480 --> 0:33:08.960 He used to be like, dang, no realists, bro. He 0:33:09.120 --> 0:33:11.440 want everybody to win. And that's a fact. 0:33:11.600 --> 0:33:13.760 Like just even seeing that with my own eyes today, 0:33:14.000 --> 0:33:15.720 I'm looking at all the young guys you're working with. 0:33:15.880 --> 0:33:17.800 I'm like, man, if I could have had something like 0:33:17.880 --> 0:33:20.000 this when I was a rookie, because they asked me, 0:33:20.080 --> 0:33:21.520 we were sitting up there watching like did you do 0:33:21.600 --> 0:33:25.280 this when he was rookie? I'm I'm like, no, what 0:33:25.600 --> 0:33:27.800 nobody taking me under their wing. It showed me how 0:33:27.840 --> 0:33:29.400 to get better. They thought I was gonna come to 0:33:29.440 --> 0:33:30.120 take their spot. 0:33:31.000 --> 0:33:33.400 But it's I mean, the thing about like the camp, bro, 0:33:33.600 --> 0:33:39.240 is we got like speakers, like mental like stuff that 0:33:39.760 --> 0:33:42.200 is gonna help them with stuff that ain't got nothing 0:33:42.200 --> 0:33:44.800 to do with basketball, because they all gonna have agents, 0:33:45.080 --> 0:33:47.520 especially now, they got agents, they got managers, they got 0:33:48.200 --> 0:33:52.040 family members, You got all these people that's pulling them 0:33:52.080 --> 0:33:54.480 in all these different directions. And then when it don't 0:33:54.520 --> 0:33:57.560 work out, ain't nobody gonna be there? Yeah, it ain't. 0:33:57.600 --> 0:33:59.320 None of them been in position to really give them 0:33:59.360 --> 0:34:01.840 no sound that that's gonna actually help. They just think 0:34:02.280 --> 0:34:04.880 he about to make some money. They think he better 0:34:04.960 --> 0:34:07.320 than everybody when they don't really know what's really going on, 0:34:07.760 --> 0:34:10.080 Like they don't really know who in this league, who 0:34:10.200 --> 0:34:12.560 they competition is. How the coaches look at him, they 0:34:12.640 --> 0:34:13.919 just think this is my family member. 0:34:14.000 --> 0:34:14.440 He'd have won. 0:34:15.560 --> 0:34:17.960 So it's like we're trying to share as much as 0:34:18.000 --> 0:34:19.759 we can with him on the court, but off the 0:34:19.840 --> 0:34:21.520 court too, so they don't come in here thinking it 0:34:21.640 --> 0:34:25.359 something it's not. And they been, you know, their whole life, 0:34:25.400 --> 0:34:27.279 they've been working to be an NBA player, and then 0:34:27.320 --> 0:34:29.880 they at the league in one year and don't know 0:34:29.960 --> 0:34:34.080 what to do. Now they just somewhere, you know, doing anything. 0:34:34.719 --> 0:34:38.120 I ain't playing basketball no more. So that's really what 0:34:38.239 --> 0:34:39.960 our focus is because a lot of these dudes, you know, 0:34:40.160 --> 0:34:43.800 it's two way players, second round picks, first round picks. 0:34:44.280 --> 0:34:46.560 Some dudes on the you know, they on a cusp, 0:34:46.719 --> 0:34:49.640 like that third year. You know, you get your option 0:34:49.760 --> 0:34:52.040 picked up, you guarantee that third year, but after that 0:34:52.480 --> 0:34:55.120 you might be overseas like it's spooky. Yeah, they don't 0:34:55.120 --> 0:34:56.960 care what pick you was no more. Now they're looking 0:34:57.000 --> 0:34:59.920 at you like he wasn't what we thought he was. 0:35:00.480 --> 0:35:02.960 That's another nineteen year old that like they looking at 0:35:03.040 --> 0:35:04.960 like they used to look at you, so you can 0:35:05.040 --> 0:35:07.840 go yeah, yeah, So it's like we trying to stop 0:35:07.960 --> 0:35:09.759 that from happening. But they it's a lot that they 0:35:09.800 --> 0:35:14.040 got to understand on the court, but also like what 0:35:14.280 --> 0:35:16.239 goes into it off the court too, you know what 0:35:16.280 --> 0:35:18.239 I'm saying, Like them drills we did today that wasn't 0:35:19.440 --> 0:35:22.719 Euro steps and a bunch of side steps like Brady's 0:35:22.840 --> 0:35:25.400 are conceptual drills you have to be able to do 0:35:25.480 --> 0:35:27.439 in the NBA. Like the X is on the court 0:35:27.680 --> 0:35:31.120 more reason bron gonna zip the ball to that X 0:35:31.239 --> 0:35:32.600 right there. If you're not, there's gonna go out of 0:35:32.640 --> 0:35:35.040 bounds coming out. He gonna put his hands in the 0:35:35.080 --> 0:35:37.839 air and look at the coach and you're coming out 0:35:38.000 --> 0:35:40.440 for sure. So it's like this the type of stuff 0:35:40.480 --> 0:35:42.800 they got to know or you can't make it, especially 0:35:42.920 --> 0:35:45.080 for some of the positions that they end like y'all 0:35:45.200 --> 0:35:47.000 not the number one pick. 0:35:46.880 --> 0:35:52.359 Of the draft, so nah, it's dope, which I first 0:35:52.400 --> 0:35:53.440 syear being out of Portland. 0:35:53.440 --> 0:35:55.239 How was that transition coming into a new team in 0:35:55.320 --> 0:35:58.120 New City and getting adjusted to play with another great 0:35:58.120 --> 0:35:58.960 player like Jannis. 0:35:59.400 --> 0:35:59.680 It was. 0:36:01.239 --> 0:36:03.680 Like I was excited about it, like going into it, 0:36:03.880 --> 0:36:06.040 just opportunity to like really win. 0:36:06.480 --> 0:36:07.080 Like every year. 0:36:07.120 --> 0:36:10.520 I always thought, like if you're a competitor, you like this, 0:36:10.800 --> 0:36:12.239 Like we can do it this year, you know what 0:36:12.280 --> 0:36:13.839 I'm saying, Like you talking to the team. 0:36:13.920 --> 0:36:15.279 Everybody excited this in New Year. 0:36:16.160 --> 0:36:17.960 But this was the first time where I went into 0:36:18.040 --> 0:36:22.279 it like we can win for real, like and it 0:36:22.400 --> 0:36:24.360 was kind of It was kind of fucked up because 0:36:24.560 --> 0:36:27.560 I had a, you know, a bunch of family stuff 0:36:27.640 --> 0:36:32.520 going on, going into like that summer, going through a 0:36:32.680 --> 0:36:36.359 divorce and knowing I'm gonna get traded, but not knowing 0:36:36.360 --> 0:36:39.080 where I'm gonna get traded to, so I couldn't get hurt, 0:36:40.120 --> 0:36:41.719 got to be able to pass a physical, so I 0:36:41.840 --> 0:36:43.440 wasn't able to get up and down at all. Like 0:36:43.520 --> 0:36:47.399 I didn't play pick up or nothing the whole summer, damn. 0:36:47.520 --> 0:36:49.080 And my first day getting up and down was the 0:36:49.080 --> 0:36:54.120 first day of training camp and I did. I got 0:36:54.200 --> 0:36:56.600 traded like two three days before camp. So I got 0:36:56.640 --> 0:37:02.080 to Milwaukee, I did my physicals, move my stuff into 0:37:02.160 --> 0:37:04.040 the apartment I was in for a little bit. 0:37:04.280 --> 0:37:05.680 The next day I went to go shoot. 0:37:06.840 --> 0:37:09.440 The next day was media day, and the next day 0:37:09.719 --> 0:37:12.759 was practice, and I remember like going up and down 0:37:12.800 --> 0:37:16.960 in practice and we got to stop. Gianni's got the 0:37:17.000 --> 0:37:19.880 rebound and I'm like running up the sideline and he 0:37:20.160 --> 0:37:21.840 threw it ahead to me and I jumped up and 0:37:21.880 --> 0:37:25.000 caught the ball and I landed like if this dot 0:37:25.080 --> 0:37:27.240 of bounds line, I was this far out of bounds, 0:37:27.360 --> 0:37:30.080 Like I caught the ball way out of bounds. I'm like, oh, 0:37:30.120 --> 0:37:33.520 I'm off, Like I ain't on point, Like I ain't 0:37:33.560 --> 0:37:36.560 ever did that shit before. I'm like completely out of bounds. 0:37:37.960 --> 0:37:40.880 So we keep playing and just because I'm a score, 0:37:41.000 --> 0:37:42.680 like I hit a couple of threes, like I got 0:37:42.760 --> 0:37:44.279 to the rim a few times, but I could just 0:37:44.400 --> 0:37:48.839 feel like my body didn't feel good. I'm like, I'm thinking, 0:37:48.920 --> 0:37:50.640 like I just had to pick my life up in 0:37:50.760 --> 0:37:53.840 two days and just go and like plays. You know 0:37:53.880 --> 0:37:56.440 what I'm saying, Like, ain't nothing, Ain't nothing really settled. 0:37:56.480 --> 0:37:59.640 So like I pretty much spent the whole year trying 0:37:59.640 --> 0:38:01.920 to like just get my mind to like be there 0:38:02.040 --> 0:38:05.439 and to lock in and be sharp because I knew 0:38:05.440 --> 0:38:07.520 what type of opportunity I had, you know what I'm saying. 0:38:07.640 --> 0:38:10.160 But it was a it was a harder transition than 0:38:10.160 --> 0:38:11.080 I thought for real. 0:38:11.200 --> 0:38:11.560 Like just. 0:38:13.320 --> 0:38:15.280 Like I said, because of my life, but then also 0:38:15.520 --> 0:38:19.880 like adjusting to playing with another great player, and then 0:38:19.960 --> 0:38:22.840 also playing with Chris, Like Chris is a is a 0:38:22.880 --> 0:38:26.520 great player too, but he plays a certain way too. 0:38:26.680 --> 0:38:28.480 So I'm having to get used to playing with two 0:38:28.600 --> 0:38:32.839 players and I don't want to stop them from doing 0:38:32.920 --> 0:38:35.120 what they do. But I got to find how to 0:38:35.719 --> 0:38:37.680 be the best version of me within this too. So 0:38:37.800 --> 0:38:39.120 it was just a lot of it was a lot 0:38:39.160 --> 0:38:40.120 of moving parts. It was. 0:38:40.239 --> 0:38:41.719 It was more difficult than I thought. 0:38:41.719 --> 0:38:45.480 It would be damned to get that ship together. Yeah, 0:38:46.040 --> 0:38:50.000 trust at the Pacers. Yeah he thinks they got smoked 0:38:50.040 --> 0:38:53.319 for y'all. Bro We did last year last year. Last 0:38:53.360 --> 0:38:55.239 year they like fo. 0:38:57.080 --> 0:38:57.520 Last year. 0:38:59.160 --> 0:39:01.719 Yeah, it was hurt last year. It just was, you 0:39:01.840 --> 0:39:05.160 know they I think the first time we played them, 0:39:06.320 --> 0:39:08.040 I don't think I played. I think if we played 0:39:08.080 --> 0:39:11.319 them in Indy, I don't think I played in that game. 0:39:12.000 --> 0:39:14.040 And I think the next time we played them was 0:39:14.120 --> 0:39:18.080 in the N season tournament and then they beat us 0:39:18.120 --> 0:39:22.400 in that game, and and that was when Halliburton was like, 0:39:22.520 --> 0:39:27.360 you know, my time whatever. So like when I seen that, 0:39:27.440 --> 0:39:29.239 I respected it. That's why I said after the game, 0:39:30.360 --> 0:39:34.600 I respect it. Like that's like if you know, like 0:39:34.680 --> 0:39:36.719 how Rush used to do this and sometimes people used 0:39:36.719 --> 0:39:38.959 to do it back. He had to take it because 0:39:38.960 --> 0:39:41.640 I didn't did it to so many people. So I 0:39:41.800 --> 0:39:44.080 respected it. But like at the same time, you like, 0:39:45.040 --> 0:39:48.080 we're gonna address that. I respect it, but we're gonna 0:39:48.200 --> 0:39:49.520 we're gonna get back to that at yes. 0:39:50.200 --> 0:39:50.399 Yes. 0:39:51.080 --> 0:39:53.440 So then like the next time we played them, I think, uh, 0:39:53.880 --> 0:39:57.080 we beat them in Milwaukee, and then. 0:39:59.440 --> 0:40:01.120 I think, you know, they beat us. 0:40:01.200 --> 0:40:03.640 I think four times we beat them that one time, 0:40:04.200 --> 0:40:05.799 but at the time that we beat them was when 0:40:05.840 --> 0:40:09.480 the situation with the ball and they had like fifty 0:40:09.880 --> 0:40:11.240 yea Joannis had sixty six. 0:40:11.200 --> 0:40:12.320 Sixty four or something like that. 0:40:12.840 --> 0:40:16.799 Jesus Christ, so like he got that look back, yeah, 0:40:16.880 --> 0:40:19.640 but he was just just done in every play, like 0:40:19.719 --> 0:40:23.600 they he there's nothing they could do that night. So 0:40:24.160 --> 0:40:27.319 that happened, and then you know, the season went by, 0:40:27.480 --> 0:40:29.160 so like we lose the last game of the season 0:40:29.200 --> 0:40:30.919 and I'm looking at the schedule, I'm like, we about 0:40:30.920 --> 0:40:34.480 to play Indiana in the playoffs, and that was when 0:40:34.520 --> 0:40:34.759 I was. 0:40:34.760 --> 0:40:37.000 Looking at it. I was like, I ain't it been 0:40:37.120 --> 0:40:39.080 like a little back and forth. Year been a lot. 0:40:39.200 --> 0:40:41.120 You know, I'm trying to figure this out, figure that out. 0:40:42.160 --> 0:40:45.440 But I was like, now we're about to be about 0:40:45.440 --> 0:40:48.759 to see in this like in this playoff. So I mean, 0:40:48.840 --> 0:40:51.640 it's it's kind of fucked up. We was banged up 0:40:51.640 --> 0:40:52.040 a little bit. 0:40:52.160 --> 0:40:53.919 I was hurt, bro I was hurt. 0:40:54.360 --> 0:40:57.840 No, but I felt like we still was gonna win. Respect, 0:40:57.960 --> 0:41:00.799 I felt like we still don't win. But I mean, 0:41:01.000 --> 0:41:03.360 Chris Milson believes that Banking three is going to overtime 0:41:03.400 --> 0:41:05.040 and ship he damn sure believe. 0:41:05.520 --> 0:41:05.719 Yeah. 0:41:05.760 --> 0:41:07.759 He I mean, I still felt like we was gonna win. 0:41:07.880 --> 0:41:11.320 But I mean they sometimes teams have a run and 0:41:11.360 --> 0:41:12.680 they had to run. They end up getting to the 0:41:12.719 --> 0:41:16.719 conference finals and they beat us in six games. I mean, 0:41:17.040 --> 0:41:19.279 I still felt like we we had Actionally what I'm saying, 0:41:19.280 --> 0:41:22.120 I strained my achilles again and uh in game three too, 0:41:22.280 --> 0:41:26.920 So get well son, y'all was hurt to be fair 0:41:27.000 --> 0:41:28.160 as he was hurt. 0:41:28.840 --> 0:41:31.239 But you get out there, you get beat, you get beat. 0:41:31.320 --> 0:41:31.879 You know what I'm saying. 0:41:32.080 --> 0:41:34.319 Respect heye, dass niggas. 0:41:36.239 --> 0:41:38.600 This energy low like he marking that pace. 0:41:41.880 --> 0:41:45.879 We had a grazy season. I seen, y'all because I'll 0:41:45.880 --> 0:41:47.759 be watching. So I've seen the episode. Y'all was like, 0:41:47.880 --> 0:41:51.279 you know the Pacers whatever. I'm like, no, I remember you, 0:41:51.400 --> 0:41:57.360 was like I remember over there? Whatever, I want to 0:41:57.440 --> 0:42:02.640 chicken Milwaukee Deer. We got a boss and half to 0:42:02.680 --> 0:42:06.839 sat down. You gotta shouts about dogs. 0:42:07.800 --> 0:42:09.399 Now, how you'll have a hell of a year this year? 0:42:09.440 --> 0:42:12.040 Though, for sure it's gonna be crazy this year. You 0:42:12.120 --> 0:42:14.600 just gotta be healthy. What's gonna come down? 0:42:14.960 --> 0:42:16.600 What's like playing with Nis? I had a chance to 0:42:16.600 --> 0:42:18.400 play with nice as a point guard. I ain't gonna lie. 0:42:18.400 --> 0:42:20.480 I'm gonna keep it a bean, It's me. I love Jannie. 0:42:20.520 --> 0:42:24.000 He's a good dude, super cool, but at a point guard. Now, hey, 0:42:24.760 --> 0:42:27.800 I'm cool. I'm gonna keep it real, bro, I'm cool. 0:42:28.680 --> 0:42:33.400 I'm cold cold, I'm coolish. 0:42:34.719 --> 0:42:35.480 Corner my boy. 0:42:36.400 --> 0:42:37.600 No, this is the I mean. 0:42:37.680 --> 0:42:42.160 The thing about playing with Janni's is like when you're 0:42:42.200 --> 0:42:46.680 being great and you've won playing a certain way, for sure, 0:42:47.480 --> 0:42:49.200 you you gotta respect that. 0:42:49.360 --> 0:42:51.680 That's that's how you play, That's that's how you know. 0:42:53.040 --> 0:42:54.440 And then you put me into it. 0:42:54.480 --> 0:42:57.000 I'm used to having the ball too, but I came 0:42:57.080 --> 0:43:00.600 into the situation like, you know, like I gotta be 0:43:00.680 --> 0:43:02.759 a great compliment to Jannis. So I knew it wasn't 0:43:02.760 --> 0:43:05.880 gonna be what it was in Portland, but I just 0:43:05.960 --> 0:43:08.400 think it was a It was just an adjustment for him. 0:43:08.400 --> 0:43:10.520 You know what I'm saying, Like it's different when you 0:43:10.719 --> 0:43:14.719 got some different type of help. You know what I'm saying, 0:43:14.800 --> 0:43:16.719 Like it don't take as much, you don't have to 0:43:16.800 --> 0:43:18.440 give as much. You know what I'm saying, Like we 0:43:18.560 --> 0:43:20.920 can do it a little different. And I think it 0:43:21.960 --> 0:43:24.239 the best part about it is like we have a 0:43:24.280 --> 0:43:27.120 conversation about it. Yeah, it ain't like he was just 0:43:27.320 --> 0:43:31.280 like I'm not changing. He was just like dagn sometimes 0:43:31.400 --> 0:43:33.439 like you gotta just tell me, like pass the fucking ball. 0:43:34.160 --> 0:43:36.400 You gotta tell me because like all I all I 0:43:36.520 --> 0:43:39.799 know is go like I'm gonna go like but don't 0:43:39.920 --> 0:43:42.520 like he'll tell you, like tell me. And he that's 0:43:42.560 --> 0:43:45.040 all I had to say. And he mean it though, 0:43:46.080 --> 0:43:48.600 like he I give him credit because he because he 0:43:48.719 --> 0:43:51.640 mean it. I'm saying, like that's really how he how 0:43:51.719 --> 0:43:55.040 he think. Like when I got there, I'm watching him 0:43:55.080 --> 0:43:57.640 work out. He working out against four people and they 0:43:57.760 --> 0:44:01.080 all failing, like and he's like, no, like you gotta 0:44:01.120 --> 0:44:03.640 find me harder than that, you know, Like damn, So 0:44:03.800 --> 0:44:06.759 that's how he that's how he That's just how his 0:44:06.960 --> 0:44:07.400 mind is. 0:44:07.640 --> 0:44:09.520 The One thing I do love about you is though 0:44:09.560 --> 0:44:12.160 he do listen, Like he'll listen to anything you say, 0:44:12.280 --> 0:44:13.480 like he'll take it in. I don't know if he 0:44:13.600 --> 0:44:15.920 was listening to me, but he was. He was considering it. 0:44:16.080 --> 0:44:19.000 I'm like, I'm like, look, i'm fast too. If you 0:44:19.080 --> 0:44:20.359 get it to me on the break, I can get 0:44:20.360 --> 0:44:26.480 to the ring. He looked, Okay, all right, get out 0:44:26.480 --> 0:44:26.680 the way. 0:44:26.760 --> 0:44:29.160 Brother. Yeah, it's just an adjustment, bro. I think that 0:44:29.320 --> 0:44:31.480 was the biggest thing. And like as the season went on, 0:44:32.520 --> 0:44:34.200 we talked about it more and more. The more that 0:44:34.280 --> 0:44:37.000 we got to know each other, it was like I 0:44:37.120 --> 0:44:40.360 felt more and more comfortable telling him like, if my 0:44:40.480 --> 0:44:42.600 man is sitting right there in that gap and you 0:44:42.640 --> 0:44:44.719 can't get in there, just swing it to me. After 0:44:44.840 --> 0:44:47.399 I hit a couple, like, he gonna get a little 0:44:47.400 --> 0:44:49.200 closer to me and you're gonna have more space. Like 0:44:49.239 --> 0:44:51.520 we started to have more and more conversations like that. 0:44:52.440 --> 0:44:54.399 But I also would tell him like, it's also gonna 0:44:54.480 --> 0:44:57.120 let me know like when the ball is coming, because 0:44:57.160 --> 0:44:58.839 he get in the paint so easy. You know, he'll 0:44:58.880 --> 0:45:02.359 get into the paint and sometimes he had just dunk 0:45:02.400 --> 0:45:05.279 on two people. Yeah, and then sometimes you know a 0:45:05.360 --> 0:45:08.680 third person to come and you know, just jump before 0:45:08.719 --> 0:45:10.640 he jump, and then he'll throw it and I'm thinking 0:45:10.719 --> 0:45:11.440 he about to shoot. 0:45:11.520 --> 0:45:14.680 So it was just like as the season went on, we. 0:45:14.800 --> 0:45:17.520 Talked more and more and like we definitely had our 0:45:17.560 --> 0:45:20.279 stretches where it was like that was it right there. 0:45:20.400 --> 0:45:22.120 Like I remember we went to La we played the 0:45:22.200 --> 0:45:26.120 Lakers and I had like thirty five and eleven and 0:45:26.200 --> 0:45:29.000 he had thirty five and twelve and eight. And then 0:45:29.040 --> 0:45:31.680 we played the Clippers and I had like thirty four 0:45:31.840 --> 0:45:35.280 and ten and six and he had thirty seven, twelve 0:45:35.360 --> 0:45:39.080 and nine. And it was like those back to back games. 0:45:39.120 --> 0:45:40.880 I remember like walking through the tunnel and we were 0:45:40.960 --> 0:45:43.200 just looking at each other like this, how we got 0:45:43.360 --> 0:45:45.600 to this, How we gotta do it? Like it ain't 0:45:45.600 --> 0:45:49.279 gonna always look like this numbers wise, but like when 0:45:49.320 --> 0:45:51.560 we on point on point, it could look like this, 0:45:52.239 --> 0:45:53.839 but we got to use each other. And then both 0:45:53.880 --> 0:45:56.360 of those games down the stretch, we played two man games. 0:45:57.160 --> 0:45:59.960 I'm coming off, hit him in the pocket. He don't 0:46:00.080 --> 0:46:02.040 have nothing. He come back to me, I'm shooting threes 0:46:02.080 --> 0:46:05.040 off the handoff. I come off the handoff, get to 0:46:05.160 --> 0:46:07.600 the paint. His man come to me, I'm dumping it 0:46:07.680 --> 0:46:10.920 off dunk. It was just like we was just we 0:46:11.080 --> 0:46:12.759 was clicking, you know what I'm saying. But I think 0:46:12.840 --> 0:46:15.440 when you have an injuries, you know, I miss a 0:46:15.520 --> 0:46:18.759 game here, then he missed a game, and then Chris 0:46:18.880 --> 0:46:21.200 missed a stretch of games like we was never able 0:46:21.280 --> 0:46:24.600 to just fully like click all at the same time. 0:46:24.719 --> 0:46:28.080 You know. Then I think they both missed a stretch 0:46:28.120 --> 0:46:30.760 of games. And we playing the Clippers and then Bobby 0:46:30.800 --> 0:46:33.600 Half twenty eight and fifteen, I have forty. We beat 0:46:33.640 --> 0:46:37.800 the Clippers with everybody, and then we beat Phoenix with everybody. 0:46:37.560 --> 0:46:39.440 Like we just it was just a little It was 0:46:39.480 --> 0:46:40.279 a funky year, bro. 0:46:41.160 --> 0:46:42.879 I mean, that's why I had y'all win the chip. 0:46:42.960 --> 0:46:45.319 We talked about it about, you know, but all them things, 0:46:45.400 --> 0:46:46.360 combined injuries and. 0:46:46.360 --> 0:46:47.000 All that stuff. 0:46:47.480 --> 0:46:50.040 You gotta be healthy, Brod, y'all want the chip. But 0:46:50.040 --> 0:46:53.040 I got y'all went hold on, let me, it's gonna 0:46:53.040 --> 0:46:56.800 be be real, do I got. He's just crazy this 0:46:56.920 --> 0:47:01.879 year to JT, he mad right now. He ain't getting 0:47:01.880 --> 0:47:02.400 no tick. 0:47:04.239 --> 0:47:04.680 It might be. 0:47:05.440 --> 0:47:08.239 It's gonna be an interesting year. Bro, it's gonna be tough, 0:47:08.320 --> 0:47:09.279 but it's I think. 0:47:09.400 --> 0:47:10.960 I mean, you know, from being in the league a 0:47:11.000 --> 0:47:12.920 long time, bre it's a lot of ship that happened 0:47:12.960 --> 0:47:15.279 over the course of the NBA season a lot, but 0:47:15.480 --> 0:47:17.120 it's a lot deer man. 0:47:17.360 --> 0:47:20.600 I don't want the de deer man. They don't no board, 0:47:20.640 --> 0:47:23.319 but I still rock with I say, I ain't see 0:47:23.320 --> 0:47:24.640 you in the building at all this year? 0:47:25.280 --> 0:47:29.719 Might people back there would be no fives on the walker. 0:47:30.080 --> 0:47:33.400 We gotta you know, president back, I'm going into the 0:47:33.440 --> 0:47:35.839 game this year. You play open to night. I think 0:47:35.880 --> 0:47:36.480 we at Philly. 0:47:37.520 --> 0:47:38.319 Oh that's tough. 0:47:39.280 --> 0:47:39.640 That trip. 0:47:40.320 --> 0:47:41.360 I didn't want to look to that. 0:47:42.040 --> 0:47:42.920 I think we have feeling. 0:47:43.160 --> 0:47:45.560 I want to hop into the rap ship though, Bro, 0:47:46.200 --> 0:47:48.320 when did you pick up the pen? When did you start? 0:47:48.560 --> 0:47:52.080 Like did you start our freestyling with the guys on 0:47:52.280 --> 0:47:54.640 AU trips and then it turned in That's. 0:47:54.520 --> 0:47:56.400 How it started real. Yeah. So like. 0:47:58.120 --> 0:48:03.000 My AU coaching, we was in like sick great like 0:48:03.080 --> 0:48:05.440 we used to you know, we would do the local tournaments. 0:48:05.440 --> 0:48:08.240 We would go to Sacramento, we might go to Vegas, 0:48:08.280 --> 0:48:10.000 we would go to LA But we used to all, 0:48:10.200 --> 0:48:13.200 we used to have four people to a room, like 0:48:13.280 --> 0:48:15.440 for our tournament, so it was like two beds. We 0:48:15.600 --> 0:48:18.239 literally was back to back in the bed, back to 0:48:18.320 --> 0:48:20.080 back in this bed. Four of us in one room. 0:48:20.320 --> 0:48:20.560 Damn. 0:48:21.680 --> 0:48:23.400 But at some point he would have us all in 0:48:23.480 --> 0:48:25.600 one room and we all just kind of be circled 0:48:25.680 --> 0:48:28.879 up in there, and he had talked to us like, hey, 0:48:29.000 --> 0:48:30.560 you know, I'm gonna talk to y'all like men. Like 0:48:30.640 --> 0:48:32.239 you could tell he was trying to mold us to 0:48:32.320 --> 0:48:33.840 be like certain time he would tell us like you 0:48:33.880 --> 0:48:36.640 know what I'm saying, y'all from Oakland, Like we ain't scared, 0:48:36.680 --> 0:48:37.120 we don't care. 0:48:37.719 --> 0:48:39.800 You know what their name is, who they are, what 0:48:39.960 --> 0:48:41.879 type of gear they got. They was trying to mold 0:48:42.000 --> 0:48:42.840 us like that, you know. 0:48:43.960 --> 0:48:48.400 And they started doing this thing where like he'd start rapping, 0:48:49.719 --> 0:48:52.120 and then we pretty much had to pass it around 0:48:52.200 --> 0:48:55.680 and everybody and everybody had to rap, Like we had 0:48:55.719 --> 0:48:57.719 a couple of white dudes on our team, like they 0:48:57.840 --> 0:48:58.359 had to rap. 0:48:58.440 --> 0:48:58.600 Yeah. 0:48:58.600 --> 0:49:00.680 I made him get in the booth and we sitting 0:49:00.680 --> 0:49:02.520 in a circle like this, Dann. We just passed it 0:49:02.600 --> 0:49:06.920 around and everybody had to rap. And I just remember, 0:49:07.080 --> 0:49:12.759 like when I rap sometimes like they'd be like like 0:49:12.880 --> 0:49:15.480 that was hard, you know, like and I felt like 0:49:15.600 --> 0:49:18.080 every time I spit, I had to keep coming with 0:49:18.200 --> 0:49:21.640 something clever like I. And then like all my cousins 0:49:21.640 --> 0:49:24.120 I grew up around, was doing music. They was all rapping. 0:49:25.400 --> 0:49:27.960 And then Ship. By the time we got to high school, 0:49:28.000 --> 0:49:30.080 you know you come out warm ups, we was coming 0:49:30.120 --> 0:49:34.560 out to our own music. Go record that's far, let 0:49:34.640 --> 0:49:37.279 them play the music we're doing, layup lines was playing 0:49:37.320 --> 0:49:40.319 our own music. College, we started doing mixtapes and then 0:49:40.360 --> 0:49:41.759 Ship that was was. 0:49:41.800 --> 0:49:50.320 You a West Coast rapper? First was you? Forty said. 0:49:53.080 --> 0:49:58.600 Wow, we now who was I? 0:50:00.280 --> 0:50:01.200 Being from the West Coast? 0:50:01.239 --> 0:50:04.680 I like West Coast music, but my style of music 0:50:04.880 --> 0:50:08.160 was always more like East Coast gotcha because I like bars. 0:50:08.200 --> 0:50:10.759 I like people that could like rap for real, and 0:50:10.840 --> 0:50:12.840 that was never the style on the West Coast like that. 0:50:12.960 --> 0:50:17.640 It was more bounce, you know, like dance Steve, you know, 0:50:17.800 --> 0:50:18.560 it was more like that. 0:50:19.520 --> 0:50:23.080 But I always preferred my style because I'm I like, 0:50:23.360 --> 0:50:26.880 you know, lyricism and writing and bars and doubling tundras 0:50:26.920 --> 0:50:30.839 and stuff like that. So I wrote like I'd write 0:50:30.920 --> 0:50:32.759 music like the kind of music that I listened to 0:50:33.600 --> 0:50:35.560 and then I try to find like that balance of 0:50:35.719 --> 0:50:39.560 like what's player and what sound good boring and preachy, 0:50:39.800 --> 0:50:42.719 and that's kind of like the laye that I do 0:50:42.880 --> 0:50:43.440 my music in. 0:50:43.640 --> 0:50:45.920 When Did You Know You? Was nice though, like all right, 0:50:45.960 --> 0:50:47.719 I can really do this. I can start putting the 0:50:47.880 --> 0:50:51.359 LP out the album up. I start in Wayne Jada 0:50:51.440 --> 0:50:53.399 for a feature like I did. 0:50:55.120 --> 0:50:58.160 I think it was like probably like twenty fifteen, I 0:50:58.200 --> 0:51:02.960 start putting stuff out on SoundCloud and no, it was 0:51:03.040 --> 0:51:03.400 before that. 0:51:03.800 --> 0:51:04.759 I did what was that? 0:51:04.880 --> 0:51:08.320 What was that All Star twenty fifteen? Yeah it was 0:51:08.640 --> 0:51:11.400 it was twenty fifteen All Star in New York. I 0:51:11.560 --> 0:51:19.400 was at that one. Yeah, so All Star twenty fifteen 0:51:19.440 --> 0:51:21.480 in New York. I did Sway in the Morning because 0:51:21.480 --> 0:51:23.239 Sway from Oakland. So he was like, you know, you 0:51:23.320 --> 0:51:25.200 do your media stuff out there. He was like, come 0:51:25.239 --> 0:51:27.920 on the show. Yeah. So when I walked in, he 0:51:28.080 --> 0:51:29.680 was like, man, like, I don't want to put you 0:51:29.719 --> 0:51:31.480 on the spot, but I know you'd be rapping, Like 0:51:31.880 --> 0:51:33.399 do you want to spit something? I was like yeah, 0:51:34.480 --> 0:51:37.560 So like I rapped on Sway like during All Star 0:51:37.719 --> 0:51:41.040 and like the video like that's my most viewed rap 0:51:41.160 --> 0:51:42.240 video on the internet. 0:51:42.440 --> 0:51:46.640 Like so like after that, that's when everybody was. 0:51:46.640 --> 0:51:49.479 Like, you gotta start putting music out, like this shit fired, 0:51:49.560 --> 0:51:52.400 like it went viral, remember that shit. And then after that, 0:51:52.680 --> 0:51:55.480 I start putting it out on SoundCloud and I was 0:51:55.560 --> 0:51:59.440 doing a bunch of SoundCloud stuff and then people was like, 0:52:00.200 --> 0:52:01.920 you got to drop an album. And I remember, like 0:52:02.400 --> 0:52:04.920 my twenty sixth birthday, that was probably the following year. 0:52:07.520 --> 0:52:09.400 For my birthday, I did my first show, but I 0:52:09.520 --> 0:52:11.320 performed all SoundCloud songs. 0:52:11.680 --> 0:52:13.280 Where are you performing at in Portland? 0:52:14.200 --> 0:52:15.879 I sold it out. I sold it out a show 0:52:16.080 --> 0:52:20.840 in Portland on my birthday. After I did that, and 0:52:20.920 --> 0:52:23.400 then I start working on the album after that, and 0:52:23.760 --> 0:52:29.799 like all my partners, Adidas at JBL at the time, 0:52:29.960 --> 0:52:32.160 like they started wanting to use my music for like 0:52:32.239 --> 0:52:32.840 all my stuff. 0:52:32.920 --> 0:52:34.160 So that's really how it started. 0:52:34.920 --> 0:52:35.640 That's hard, bro. 0:52:35.840 --> 0:52:36.919 I needed to own my music. 0:52:36.920 --> 0:52:38.960 I needed to own like my publishing and the masters 0:52:39.040 --> 0:52:41.160 and all that to be able to use it for 0:52:41.280 --> 0:52:43.080 like commercials and all of that stuff so that I 0:52:43.120 --> 0:52:44.000 can make money from it. 0:52:44.080 --> 0:52:46.239 And then from there it just took off. 0:52:46.320 --> 0:52:47.960 Yeah, I heard you say you had one of uh 0:52:48.360 --> 0:52:50.759 somebody working with you, your agent or something like you 0:52:50.880 --> 0:52:52.279 hadn't really tap into the music. 0:52:53.120 --> 0:52:54.560 He actually worked for my agency. 0:52:55.200 --> 0:52:59.520 He's like one of my agents, but like they he 0:52:59.640 --> 0:53:01.960 always get on me because my very first game in 0:53:02.040 --> 0:53:04.560 my career, like a regular season was against the Lakers two. 0:53:05.440 --> 0:53:10.040 So he played them on Halloween and we actually beat them, 0:53:10.200 --> 0:53:13.240 and I had twenty three and eleven, and I remember 0:53:13.320 --> 0:53:15.239 walking out the locker room the night before, me and 0:53:15.320 --> 0:53:16.160 my cousins. 0:53:15.880 --> 0:53:19.160 Was just upstairs like freestyle and writing bars. 0:53:19.880 --> 0:53:22.960 And I came out the locker room and they was like, man, 0:53:23.040 --> 0:53:25.360 that was a great game, Like you just played against Kobe. 0:53:25.480 --> 0:53:28.320 You just had twenty three and eleven, only Alan iverson. 0:53:28.360 --> 0:53:30.360 So they telling me all these stats and shit like, 0:53:31.280 --> 0:53:32.959 and I remember I was just I let him finish, 0:53:33.000 --> 0:53:35.319 and I was like, bro, I really can rap. 0:53:35.520 --> 0:53:39.080 But I was thinking about what I was writing in 0:53:39.160 --> 0:53:40.920 my notes. I'm like, bro, I really can rap. 0:53:40.960 --> 0:53:44.440 And they all looked like, man, not another fucking basketball player, 0:53:44.520 --> 0:53:46.799 thinking like they can rap because they hadn't heard me rap. 0:53:48.120 --> 0:53:51.160 So then he started I started sending them stuff this phone, 0:53:51.239 --> 0:53:54.320 like after I record, I send it. So he really 0:53:54.520 --> 0:53:56.759 was like just you know, an agent working for my 0:53:56.840 --> 0:53:58.840 agency doing basketball stuff. 0:53:58.880 --> 0:54:02.400 And now he basically is like you know everything about me, 0:54:02.520 --> 0:54:03.320 he and my A and R. 0:54:03.719 --> 0:54:08.040 But he do all the business side of everything with 0:54:08.160 --> 0:54:10.920 my music as far because he didn't learn, Like he 0:54:10.920 --> 0:54:11.800 didn't learned everything. 0:54:12.280 --> 0:54:13.000 That's right, bro. 0:54:13.480 --> 0:54:15.879 Yeah, I remember the four ball Friday's going crazy. Yeah, 0:54:15.880 --> 0:54:18.840 I started four bar Friday. So what's that energy like? 0:54:18.960 --> 0:54:21.360 Having a sold out crowd listen to you? You know, 0:54:21.600 --> 0:54:23.400 rap like you get it in the NBA. You can 0:54:23.480 --> 0:54:25.480 playing in front of thousands of people. Then you go 0:54:26.080 --> 0:54:30.000 you up on stage's you know, it's different. It's definitely different. 0:54:30.080 --> 0:54:31.680 Like my first couple of times, I'm like, man, I 0:54:31.719 --> 0:54:34.279 wonder if they even go like funck with the music 0:54:34.440 --> 0:54:38.840 like that. And like when I got up there and 0:54:38.920 --> 0:54:41.320 I did the first show for my birthday, I was 0:54:41.360 --> 0:54:45.239 doing this freestyle and I think I posted a clip 0:54:45.320 --> 0:54:48.360 of it at the time on my Instagram. But I 0:54:48.520 --> 0:54:50.960 was rapping and I was like rapp Like one of 0:54:51.040 --> 0:54:53.000 my bars, I was like, last time they count me 0:54:53.040 --> 0:54:53.680 out what I do? 0:54:53.880 --> 0:54:54.439 Game six? 0:54:54.520 --> 0:54:56.480 I said, last time they count me out what I do? 0:54:56.680 --> 0:54:58.440 Game six? Talking about when I had the three on 0:54:58.480 --> 0:55:02.160 the rockets and I said it in at the show, 0:55:02.239 --> 0:55:03.799 I said, last time they count me out? 0:55:03.880 --> 0:55:04.239 What I do? 0:55:04.400 --> 0:55:07.960 And the whole crowd said Game six and it was 0:55:08.719 --> 0:55:10.640 and it was a clip of it, and I was like, oh, 0:55:10.719 --> 0:55:15.400 they fun with my ship. I'm really nice after that 0:55:16.280 --> 0:55:18.600 after that and I was like, all right, bro, you're 0:55:18.600 --> 0:55:20.919 about to crash out and crash you put the jump 0:55:20.960 --> 0:55:22.239 off stage crashing out. 0:55:22.719 --> 0:55:24.839 Who been your favorite collabse so far as a two 0:55:24.920 --> 0:55:27.560 parter and then like, who you look forward to work 0:55:27.680 --> 0:55:28.400 in the future with? 0:55:28.880 --> 0:55:35.720 Uh, my favorite so far? That's crazy. 0:55:37.760 --> 0:55:41.320 I gotta say Wayne, because like the first time I 0:55:41.440 --> 0:55:44.520 got with Wayne, it was actually somebody reached out to 0:55:44.680 --> 0:55:47.600 me for Wayne because they was like, you know, he 0:55:47.680 --> 0:55:50.160 wanted to do something with you because he you know, 0:55:50.280 --> 0:55:52.279 he liked how you don't try to rap like a rapper. 0:55:52.320 --> 0:55:55.320 He can tell you just rapping like you. So we 0:55:55.440 --> 0:55:57.080 connected like that and ship. 0:55:57.200 --> 0:55:59.560 Me and Wayne got so many songs together that ain't 0:56:00.320 --> 0:56:03.719 ain't even released, like because everything I send him, he 0:56:03.880 --> 0:56:05.800 do it and just send it right back, like he 0:56:06.040 --> 0:56:08.399 just he do that shit fast. So it's a bunch 0:56:08.400 --> 0:56:10.799 of shit that we haven't that I haven't even put out. 0:56:10.880 --> 0:56:13.960 But I'll say that one because I actually been to 0:56:14.120 --> 0:56:17.600 the studio with him and like being able to see it, 0:56:17.680 --> 0:56:18.680 I was like, damn. 0:56:18.719 --> 0:56:23.400 Like, you know how crazy that is? Bromber. 0:56:23.480 --> 0:56:25.520 I grew up on little Wayne Bro like. 0:56:27.840 --> 0:56:29.040 Like Wayne Bro. 0:56:29.320 --> 0:56:31.759 No, it was crazy because when I he was like, 0:56:31.920 --> 0:56:33.560 I was in l A. He was like, yeah, pull up, 0:56:33.680 --> 0:56:34.440 come to the studio. 0:56:34.680 --> 0:56:35.280 That's crazy. 0:56:35.840 --> 0:56:37.839 And I remember I was like all right, and then 0:56:37.920 --> 0:56:39.439 I was on my way there and I was thinking 0:56:39.560 --> 0:56:41.560 like damn, like I'm finna pull up on Wayne at 0:56:41.600 --> 0:56:45.000 the studio. I'm thinking he's finna have fifty people there. 0:56:45.840 --> 0:56:47.200 There's gonna be a whole situation. 0:56:47.400 --> 0:56:49.960 I got there. It was him and the engineer. That 0:56:50.120 --> 0:56:51.839 was it. That's crazy, man. 0:56:51.960 --> 0:56:55.440 And he probably wrapped through thirty five different beats, just 0:56:55.600 --> 0:56:58.440 like play the beat. He's standing up at the MC. 0:56:58.520 --> 0:57:02.120 He had rap rap, rap, they bring it back here, 0:57:02.239 --> 0:57:04.000 rap over some more. He wasn't writing it or nothing. 0:57:04.080 --> 0:57:06.000 He just was kind of like rapping over each track, 0:57:06.160 --> 0:57:09.560 just kind of punching in. And then he played some 0:57:09.640 --> 0:57:11.840 ship for me that you know, hadn't been released. I 0:57:12.000 --> 0:57:14.840 was like, Bro, this dude really is like how you 0:57:14.920 --> 0:57:17.000 even think about half of this ship? You're saying like 0:57:17.120 --> 0:57:21.280 it was crazy. It was a crazy experience. Bro, still 0:57:21.320 --> 0:57:23.080 be doing that to this day. It's still crazy. Like 0:57:23.160 --> 0:57:25.960 he coming crazier, like right now, like he keep going 0:57:26.520 --> 0:57:27.320 in his bag right now? 0:57:27.360 --> 0:57:27.840 What's the girl? 0:57:27.880 --> 0:57:31.840 The who for l s U? She gave her? 0:57:32.160 --> 0:57:35.840 He gave her a real verse, fire verse, crazy and 0:57:36.480 --> 0:57:40.200 like as an athlete too, like people will give you 0:57:40.280 --> 0:57:42.760 a throwaway too, they'll just do something to be like here, 0:57:42.960 --> 0:57:44.600 you know what I mean, like what they won't do it. 0:57:44.680 --> 0:57:46.840 So he gave her a real verse. And he always 0:57:46.920 --> 0:57:49.000 gave me a real verse, and he never gave me 0:57:49.080 --> 0:57:50.800 no little bullshit. 0:57:51.120 --> 0:57:53.640 Yeah, who's somebody look forward to though? Or you want 0:57:53.680 --> 0:57:57.920 to that you ain't collab with your man? You got 0:57:57.960 --> 0:57:58.520 something Cold? 0:58:00.120 --> 0:58:03.800 Man, I've been on Cold a long time. I've been 0:58:03.840 --> 0:58:05.920 on his ass for I've been on about. 0:58:05.760 --> 0:58:06.320 Hit him, serve. 0:58:07.800 --> 0:58:08.600 I been on his ass. 0:58:10.040 --> 0:58:11.840 That's how I want to interview, Like, Bro, we got 0:58:11.880 --> 0:58:13.760 the dam, Bro, we got your dame. 0:58:15.320 --> 0:58:17.520 That's why I hit me, Like Bro, I'm trying to 0:58:17.560 --> 0:58:20.320 work it out. I feel bad. 0:58:20.400 --> 0:58:23.280 Bro supposed to this ship months ago. I appreciate it, 0:58:23.760 --> 0:58:26.960 but I've been trying to get one with Cold for 0:58:27.000 --> 0:58:29.920 a minute. But I actually know him, like like he 0:58:30.040 --> 0:58:33.280 hit me, Uh, he randomly hit me one time, and 0:58:33.360 --> 0:58:36.000 I'm thinking like, Okay, I see his name problem, like, oh, 0:58:36.040 --> 0:58:36.840 he finally finished. 0:58:36.880 --> 0:58:37.960 He probably said something through. 0:58:38.040 --> 0:58:41.040 I opened the message up and he hit me about 0:58:41.080 --> 0:58:42.880 like our roster to see, like if we got a 0:58:42.960 --> 0:58:45.200 roster spot about somebody he know trying to get back 0:58:45.240 --> 0:58:49.720 in the league playing GM. He was playing GM on me. 0:58:49.840 --> 0:58:52.720 I'm like, oh my god, bro, I thought the track 0:58:52.880 --> 0:58:57.880 was coming through. I'm finish, send it right back. But yeah, 0:58:57.960 --> 0:59:01.960 I say, Cold, that's my that's my boy man. But 0:59:02.040 --> 0:59:04.600 Ship Drake, it's I mean, it's it's a crazy few 0:59:04.720 --> 0:59:08.640 names to say, but I say Cole, Drake and Kendrick, 0:59:10.040 --> 0:59:11.040 the three, them three. 0:59:11.080 --> 0:59:12.440 I gotta get at some point. 0:59:12.600 --> 0:59:14.440 When you just said I forgot that Cold really wouldn't 0:59:14.480 --> 0:59:15.000 hoop to Africa. 0:59:15.120 --> 0:59:21.480 That's what I thought he was about the highlights. He 0:59:21.680 --> 0:59:23.240 really he really loves hoops. 0:59:23.280 --> 0:59:25.440 So like what I do send him sometimes is like 0:59:26.280 --> 0:59:29.120 when I see other rappers that's actually nice and hoop. 0:59:29.440 --> 0:59:31.520 I always send him a clip up like hey, he 0:59:31.680 --> 0:59:35.280 might he might be able to get you. I know 0:59:35.400 --> 0:59:35.919 you'd be tight. 0:59:36.240 --> 0:59:37.080 He probably hot. 0:59:37.360 --> 0:59:41.080 Who you think better him with Chris Brown? Chris Brown. 0:59:41.280 --> 0:59:44.040 I think Chris Brown like he's just he an athletic, 0:59:44.240 --> 0:59:47.800 like he an acrobatic he just he can hoop for real. 0:59:48.160 --> 0:59:50.920 Like when I see his clips, he looked like a 0:59:51.040 --> 0:59:55.200 young player, you know what I'm saying, Damn co I 0:59:55.280 --> 0:59:55.640 don't know. 0:59:56.560 --> 1:00:00.360 I'm thinking there's probably more athletic, more athletic, but like 1:00:00.520 --> 1:00:04.200 really love hoop though, so that I can get the 1:00:04.280 --> 1:00:08.400 best rap hooper is Davey's going to hooper crazy, David's hoop. 1:00:08.760 --> 1:00:09.400 He's the best. 1:00:10.520 --> 1:00:12.520 A dude name it's this dude. It's a rapper. He 1:00:12.560 --> 1:00:16.560 ain't like super Big. His named Dax though. He nice 1:00:16.600 --> 1:00:17.000 and hoop. 1:00:17.800 --> 1:00:19.320 We got somebody from at the end of that rap 1:00:19.360 --> 1:00:20.040 for real, that's nice. 1:00:20.480 --> 1:00:23.480 David's just like that though, like Dax, I'm telling you. 1:00:23.520 --> 1:00:26.960 Look him up on Instagram looking nice. Look up de 1:00:27.080 --> 1:00:28.120 Bo from Indianapolis. 1:00:28.240 --> 1:00:29.480 Yeah, he really d one. 1:00:30.120 --> 1:00:38.880 He was you. He really, he really liked that, you know. Yeah, crazy, 1:00:41.720 --> 1:00:48.480 he gaged the rapper. That's nice and hoop that I'm. 1:00:50.120 --> 1:00:50.440 Rapper. 1:00:51.120 --> 1:00:59.960 Gilly Gilly can HOOPI he'd be hooping Gillia Big three, 1:01:00.120 --> 1:01:03.120 m v P bro NL chopper hoop too. 1:01:04.720 --> 1:01:06.440 Yeah, you can tell he played a you for the show. 1:01:06.720 --> 1:01:07.720 Yeah he can hoop, bro. 1:01:08.800 --> 1:01:13.000 That's a few who it's somebody I can't think of 1:01:13.200 --> 1:01:13.720 right now. 1:01:14.000 --> 1:01:16.920 They're rap nobody we grew up on. 1:01:17.760 --> 1:01:18.439 He said, na. 1:01:20.280 --> 1:01:21.920 I tell you at the All Star Game too. Bro, 1:01:24.520 --> 1:01:30.040 you got bors, but you one of my favorite you. 1:01:30.240 --> 1:01:31.320 You got bors. 1:01:32.800 --> 1:01:36.600 Cam cam cam cahoop. You know we ain't doing this 1:01:36.720 --> 1:01:41.480 on the show, boy Kelly, why why musicians? I can 1:01:41.560 --> 1:01:42.480 play basketball, you know. 1:01:42.520 --> 1:01:42.600 I. 1:01:45.880 --> 1:01:47.480 Just team uniform. 1:01:48.760 --> 1:01:51.400 I'm not come on, good dame out of here. But 1:01:51.520 --> 1:01:54.760 it got this campush to get me all rapp up 1:01:56.120 --> 1:01:56.880 before we got out. 1:01:56.960 --> 1:01:59.440 We can't let you go, bro, you top seventy five. Man, 1:01:59.640 --> 1:02:03.000 you had that moment to be there at that ceremony. 1:02:03.080 --> 1:02:03.760 Man, what's that like? 1:02:03.880 --> 1:02:07.320 Bro? Honestly it was. It was crazy, bro, because I 1:02:07.400 --> 1:02:10.120 didn't when they first announced it. I started seeing like 1:02:10.280 --> 1:02:12.920 lists of like this is my top seventy five, this 1:02:13.000 --> 1:02:14.640 is my top seventy five. So I thought it was 1:02:14.760 --> 1:02:17.120 just like a trend that you know, people were saying 1:02:17.160 --> 1:02:20.600 who they thought they top seventy five players were. And 1:02:20.680 --> 1:02:22.680 I remember driving to the gym one day and somebody 1:02:22.800 --> 1:02:25.880 called me like you made it. I'm like, like what 1:02:26.000 --> 1:02:28.120 you talking about? And they sent me a picture of it. 1:02:28.200 --> 1:02:30.040 You know, they had the little thing around your head 1:02:31.720 --> 1:02:33.160 and it was like you made it. I'm like, so 1:02:33.360 --> 1:02:36.000 they actually put like a committee together to like pick 1:02:36.280 --> 1:02:38.800 seventy five players. And once I found out I made it, 1:02:38.880 --> 1:02:41.720 I'm like, well, shit, who didn't make it? So I 1:02:41.840 --> 1:02:43.480 look and see some of the people that didn't make it, 1:02:43.600 --> 1:02:47.280 I'm like, damn it. Like it was the first time 1:02:47.320 --> 1:02:49.640 that I was like they really looked at people's like 1:02:49.800 --> 1:02:54.160 body of work, like the availability them winning, like what 1:02:54.320 --> 1:02:56.440 they've been able to do consistently. Like this ain't like 1:02:56.560 --> 1:03:01.120 no All Star voting, it ain't popular contest, it ain't 1:03:01.160 --> 1:03:01.480 none of that. 1:03:01.600 --> 1:03:02.880 It's like, what have you done? 1:03:04.400 --> 1:03:06.520 So, like that's why that's why it meant so much 1:03:06.560 --> 1:03:09.120 for me, because it was like I could think of 1:03:09.200 --> 1:03:12.520 bigger names and you know, people that you if they 1:03:12.600 --> 1:03:14.920 had to say seventy five players that they might just 1:03:15.240 --> 1:03:16.760 off the top of the head put them in front 1:03:16.760 --> 1:03:19.120 of me. But when you look at the body of work, 1:03:19.360 --> 1:03:22.280 it's a lot of players in the league that like 1:03:22.880 --> 1:03:29.880 it's probably like James kd Russ, Steph Bron Damar, but 1:03:30.040 --> 1:03:33.360 after that, Chris Paul, after that. It ain't nobody that 1:03:34.440 --> 1:03:35.680 got more career points than me. 1:03:36.440 --> 1:03:37.000 That's a fact. 1:03:37.320 --> 1:03:39.439 And like they all been in the league for three 1:03:39.880 --> 1:03:42.200 or more years longer than me, and I ain't far behind. 1:03:42.320 --> 1:03:45.400 So it's like, like I said earlier, that been like 1:03:46.560 --> 1:03:49.000 with me being in the playoffs on a vet team 1:03:49.760 --> 1:03:52.880 and on the rebuilding team. We didn't we started rebuilding. 1:03:52.960 --> 1:03:54.920 We was right back in there, like right back in 1:03:54.960 --> 1:03:58.120 the playoffs eight straight years. So it's like that was 1:03:58.160 --> 1:04:00.640 the first time I was like the like they made 1:04:00.680 --> 1:04:03.680 the right decision. Like people ain't gonna see it right now, 1:04:03.800 --> 1:04:06.160 but when they look back at like what actually took place, 1:04:06.200 --> 1:04:09.400 they're gonna be like he should be in there. And 1:04:09.560 --> 1:04:12.720 then you know, we got to uh to Cleveland for 1:04:12.800 --> 1:04:17.200 the like seventy fifth anniversary event and just being in 1:04:17.280 --> 1:04:21.040 the room and seeing you know, Kareem and Magic and 1:04:22.160 --> 1:04:24.120 like seeing all of these dudes, that was the first 1:04:24.160 --> 1:04:26.240 time I was like like should I even be in this? 1:04:27.160 --> 1:04:29.400 Like this crazy to be in here and I'm like 1:04:29.600 --> 1:04:33.040 one of them, and being in the picture and taking 1:04:33.120 --> 1:04:35.600 a picture with you know, the other Oakland Point Guards. 1:04:35.680 --> 1:04:39.440 It was you know, gp J kid like being up 1:04:39.480 --> 1:04:41.840 there with them. It was like I'm amongst this group. 1:04:43.240 --> 1:04:45.160 But I'll say that like the craziest part and I 1:04:45.240 --> 1:04:48.560 told this story I think on the on Q Rich 1:04:48.640 --> 1:04:52.720 and uh In d Miles shots and knuckleheads on knuckleheads, like. 1:04:54.480 --> 1:04:55.400 Everybody was there. 1:04:55.560 --> 1:04:59.000 But when when Jordan walked up, that's when I was like, 1:04:59.200 --> 1:05:02.160 this man is like not even a real is he 1:05:02.240 --> 1:05:06.080 even a real person? Like it was probably eighty cameras 1:05:06.080 --> 1:05:10.880 surrounding like the other seventy four players when he walked up, 1:05:10.960 --> 1:05:14.000 it was probably his own set of sixty cameras. And 1:05:14.160 --> 1:05:16.800 he walked up and it was like you can see 1:05:16.840 --> 1:05:19.320 right away he ain't like we part of the top 1:05:19.400 --> 1:05:23.200 seventy five, Like he's the one, like he a part 1:05:23.280 --> 1:05:25.480 of his own group. And that like that was when 1:05:25.560 --> 1:05:29.360 it was the most obvious to me, Like seeing him 1:05:29.400 --> 1:05:31.120 walk up. Even when you was in a building, when 1:05:31.120 --> 1:05:34.360 they called his name out, it was like, nigga, we 1:05:34.400 --> 1:05:37.680 could all leave now, like let him go up there 1:05:37.760 --> 1:05:40.120 by hisself. That's how loud it was. It was like 1:05:40.280 --> 1:05:43.200 that shit wasn't real. It's crazy, bro. 1:05:43.560 --> 1:05:45.560 Top seventy five, Bro, that's crazy. 1:05:45.800 --> 1:05:50.200 That's like you know, coming from no name AAU team, 1:05:50.360 --> 1:05:52.880 we restate to get the top seventy five, Bro, I 1:05:52.880 --> 1:05:54.760 don't probably could you dreamed that? 1:05:55.320 --> 1:05:55.520 Nah? 1:05:56.400 --> 1:05:57.960 I said it yesterday when I was talking to the 1:05:58.000 --> 1:06:01.600 campers when I was just telling him, like I was 1:06:01.600 --> 1:06:04.160 stressing to them, like all of the people that's working camp, 1:06:04.240 --> 1:06:09.520 that's not like a NBA coach, Like even the counselors, 1:06:09.600 --> 1:06:11.320 the you know, a lot of the staff is like 1:06:11.400 --> 1:06:14.040 they coached me. I played with him, they played in college. 1:06:14.080 --> 1:06:16.160 Now they coaching college or they coach in the NBA, 1:06:17.280 --> 1:06:21.360 like they got credentials. But they also witnessed my story 1:06:21.440 --> 1:06:24.280 and everything that I went through, so they they know 1:06:24.440 --> 1:06:27.160 that none of the stuff that we're doing, it ain't 1:06:27.240 --> 1:06:29.240 just no, oh I'm a start. Now let's make sure 1:06:29.320 --> 1:06:32.360 let's you know, act like he know everything. He ain't 1:06:32.400 --> 1:06:35.120 have no you know, he ain't do nothing wrong. This 1:06:35.200 --> 1:06:37.520 shit was seamless, Like they've been there for the whole thing. 1:06:37.680 --> 1:06:40.160 So they witnessed it and they can share the same 1:06:40.280 --> 1:06:44.080 message that I'm sharing and they've experienced it through me. 1:06:44.280 --> 1:06:47.600 But they also know, like the formula or formula zero 1:06:47.920 --> 1:06:50.320 is not me saying this is what you gotta do. 1:06:51.240 --> 1:06:54.480 I'm a product of the formula that all of these 1:06:54.520 --> 1:06:57.680 people make up and I'm sharing that with them. And 1:06:57.760 --> 1:07:00.520 I was like the reason why it is important for 1:07:00.600 --> 1:07:04.920 y'all to like be invested in this and to embrace 1:07:05.000 --> 1:07:07.520 everything that's happening here is because I don't need nothing 1:07:07.560 --> 1:07:11.080 from y'all. But because of all of this stuff and 1:07:11.360 --> 1:07:15.680 like my ability, I've been able to accomplish way more 1:07:15.720 --> 1:07:17.640 than I ever would have thought. Like I would have 1:07:17.720 --> 1:07:20.360 never have been like I'm about to be top seventy five. 1:07:20.920 --> 1:07:22.960 Even when they was talking about top seventy five, I 1:07:23.080 --> 1:07:24.800 wasn't thinking, oh, I'm in there for sure, you know 1:07:24.840 --> 1:07:28.320 what I'm saying. So like I never could have I 1:07:28.480 --> 1:07:31.040 never could have dreamed of it going like this, you 1:07:31.080 --> 1:07:33.360 know what I'm saying. I was just when I came 1:07:33.400 --> 1:07:35.320 in the league, I was like, man, I might spend 1:07:35.400 --> 1:07:37.440 some time in the G League. Literally, I was literally 1:07:37.520 --> 1:07:41.680 thinking that I might spend some time in the G League. Shit, 1:07:41.760 --> 1:07:45.200 I might. I might go to Miami and be playing 1:07:45.240 --> 1:07:47.840 with Brian and d Wade, be just a shooting point 1:07:47.840 --> 1:07:48.960 guard like shit, I don't know. 1:07:49.160 --> 1:07:55.160 But I could have never dreamed of everything that's happened happening. 1:07:56.040 --> 1:07:57.720 And that's why, especially with you be at top seventy 1:07:57.760 --> 1:08:00.240 five and deserving of that for sure. She said, you 1:08:00.320 --> 1:08:02.600 get overlooked a lot, and the time change, like you said, 1:08:02.600 --> 1:08:04.960 it's always voted Fatigua garoo for people. But like you 1:08:05.040 --> 1:08:06.520 can talk about all the newer guys, there's a lot 1:08:06.520 --> 1:08:08.880 of younger point guardsen league. But still you still hold 1:08:08.920 --> 1:08:10.520 your ground, you still do your thing. You're still set 1:08:10.520 --> 1:08:12.280 the center with that before we get out of here, 1:08:12.360 --> 1:08:13.760 it ain't gotta be a no order. Just know what 1:08:13.760 --> 1:08:15.480 I'm saying. Who's some of your top five players? They 1:08:15.480 --> 1:08:17.160 ain't even gotta be the best, or who's some of 1:08:17.200 --> 1:08:18.640 your favorite players right now? 1:08:19.080 --> 1:08:19.519 Just period? 1:08:22.240 --> 1:08:25.000 I say right now, because if we say period, it's 1:08:25.000 --> 1:08:26.840 a lot of people I can't leave off the list 1:08:27.200 --> 1:08:28.240 right No nigga get the waller. 1:08:28.479 --> 1:08:34.719 So right now, I'm gonna go, uh Anthony Edwards. 1:08:35.120 --> 1:08:37.840 I think everybody super high on him right now, but 1:08:37.920 --> 1:08:39.960 I like him because of his energy, Like his swag 1:08:40.000 --> 1:08:43.160 about him is authentic and he got the game to 1:08:43.200 --> 1:08:46.439 go with it. So I'm gonna go Anthony Edwards. I'm 1:08:46.479 --> 1:08:53.400 gonna go uh Ja Morant shout out the joy. You know, 1:08:53.479 --> 1:08:55.320 he got in some trouble, so I think people kind 1:08:55.360 --> 1:08:58.639 of turned off to him a little bit, But I mean, 1:08:58.760 --> 1:09:02.960 I I know what I'm looking at. Yeah, I mean 1:09:02.960 --> 1:09:06.960 I'm gonna I'm gonna go Anthony Edwards. Jama Rant Luca 1:09:12.560 --> 1:09:19.679 leave me somebody, yeah, joker m hmm, And be honest, 1:09:21.920 --> 1:09:24.960 that's my five right now that I'm like, when I'm 1:09:25.000 --> 1:09:28.320 watching and they like my favorites, I'm gonna go so. 1:09:28.479 --> 1:09:30.720 Far that backcourt trenchy. 1:09:31.920 --> 1:09:36.320 Babies, that's somebody that comes out. Hell, your two picks 1:09:36.479 --> 1:09:39.479 was a lot of Oakland, Like I say, I mean, 1:09:39.520 --> 1:09:42.559 I mean I'm going with like obviously younger players. Yeah, 1:09:42.800 --> 1:09:45.720 I mean that's what you know. That's the group I 1:09:45.840 --> 1:09:46.040 go with. 1:09:46.200 --> 1:09:48.439 But they all like real though, Like when you watch him, 1:09:48.439 --> 1:09:52.600 you can tell, like I hang out with him, you 1:09:52.680 --> 1:09:54.960 know what I mean? Like John Morant, he come on 1:09:55.080 --> 1:09:59.479 thirty eight. Yeah, he clow with me. 1:09:59.640 --> 1:10:02.479 Anthony. That was definitely one of us, for sure. 1:10:04.240 --> 1:10:05.720 It was funny even see the joker. He was like 1:10:05.720 --> 1:10:07.479 when Olympics, he was all right asking, I'm by killing 1:10:07.520 --> 1:10:12.160 my niggas, drinking beer, watching horses for shure. I know 1:10:12.280 --> 1:10:13.719 Lucas smoking the squares when we're. 1:10:15.840 --> 1:10:16.160 Squares. 1:10:16.960 --> 1:10:18.400 He's not the new Ports getting fit. 1:10:19.360 --> 1:10:21.160 Took me square. 1:10:21.360 --> 1:10:23.120 That was a beer. 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