Hour 1: Indiana Is Amped Up!

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Speaker 2: What up? What up? Brady?

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Speaker 4: Happy New Year? Jonas, Yeah, I'll see you.

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Speaker 5: I hope you were able to joy all the games yesterday, all the fest cities. I know you still worked in this time slot. However, many many took some time off just to watch a ball hang with the family and friends.

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Speaker 4: That's what we were doing.

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Speaker 5: So we actually was at one of the games, so there was some boots on the ground for the Orange Bowl, so that was a ton of fun. But I'll start off by asking this question, how long do you get to say Happy New Year to someone?

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Speaker 2: I think it's pretty much it.

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Speaker 5: I think you should just say so after today. If you say happy new to someone, you're a jerky.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Basically, you were the main event of the Happy New Year. And anybody that says it after you, they're just they're a fraud. Like it's worn out, it's welcome, we are done. You just said the last one, and now you got to move on to twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 5: So you're not going to say Happy New Year to LeVar when you see him on Monday.

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Speaker 3: Oh god, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, of course not. I didn't even say it to my wife. No, please come on, no, that's not happening. Yeah, it's over. You were the last one. So anybody that said just you're put on notice. Anybody that says that the rest of the day, you are a fraud. You're living a lie and you are trying to carry on it.

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Speaker 2: It is what I don't make these.

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Speaker 4: Rules to do this.

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Speaker 2: I don't make these rules.

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Speaker 5: January second and twenty twenty six. And you can't have more of a rosy attitude. Speaking of Rosie. By the way, what about that rules?

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Speaker 2: How about you? Look at you, mister Segway King, look at you.

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Speaker 3: Can I tell you, just because the nuances of football you've forgotten more than ninety nine percent of the planet. I'll just say this that there are certain games where you watch and you don't need to know the nuances. You don't need to know the fine details. You can just look at it and it is completely obvious to the untrained eye. Indiana is so much better than Alabama. It's almost shocking. Like I was watching the game going you know what reminded me of It reminded me of when SEC teams in the early two thousands or mid two thousands were playing other teams like that's it like it's almost like roles reverse, like those old Florida teams with Urban Mayer, Like it was like roles reverse to where you're watching and it looks like two different levels of football.

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Speaker 4: I am Look, I'm still shocked.

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Speaker 5: I still keep thinking that I'm like a sleep and I'm dreaming and I'm watching a team that I mean, if you go back to the Big Ten Championship. We always get these notes before some of these games, and I believe Indiana was the second most losing program in college football history, and I keep taking that into account.

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Speaker 4: I remember, like looking at some of the notes of.

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Speaker 5: How Ohio State has like the second most wins something like that, and the difference between Ohio State and their program history of wins in Indiana, that difference, I think a quit were almost equated to the amount of wins that Indiana has that in school history. So when we talk about what Kurt Signetti, Fernando Mendoza, the staff, the players, everyone involved, when we talk about what they've done, not only last year, because last year was kind of that moment where you're like, okay, it feels like that Cinderella story, you know, where you're dreaming and you're like, are you gonna wake up?

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Speaker 4: As this dream ever gonna good?

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Speaker 6: End?

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Speaker 5: This year solidified the foundation of what they did last year and what they're doing this year. To me, it's the greatest turnaround in sports history, like I can't think of some people talked about Kansas State.

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Speaker 4: This is way beyond that.

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Speaker 5: You throw me out a professional sports franchise, that's a bigger turnaround a team that was largely viewed as a doormat. I mean, I can't tell you. I visited there back when I was in high school. A buddy, Adam Cadello, who's a linebacker, who was looking to go there too, and we kind of went on the visit and coach Donardo was there. I loved Coach DeNardo is running a West Coast system. But you got there and you looked at the home stadium, you looked at facilities, and you're like, this is not.

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Speaker 4: A football school. This is a basketball school.

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Speaker 5: Man Like coming off obviously on Bobby Knight and that you know growing up watching him when I was young being a basketball player.

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Speaker 4: I can't.

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Speaker 5: I still can't fathom what they've accomplished. And what sticks out the most to me, Jonas is being at the Big Ten championship game and big around this team. When you see them up close, you know they don't It looks like David and Goliath, Like I know that reference.

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Speaker 4: Gets thrown around a bunch.

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Speaker 5: But when you look at the sheer size of the players on Indiana versus the Ohio States, the Alabama's the name you're in Oregon, for example, who they beat earlier this season. When you look at them on the field versus one another, you're going, yeah, I don't think they're going to match up, but they overcome that with the way they play as a team. They seldom, if ever make mistakes. They're one of the best technical teams you will ever find. And I think what stands out to me the most too, is even when they're putting positions where they have to win a one on one battle, they're either winning that one on one matchup, I don't care if it's on the offensive line, at wide receiver, at dB, or to stalemate. Like they don't really lose, Like they just don't do the things that other teams do that end up losing them football games. And it's incredible to watch how they time and time again end up being the more physical team, end up being the better team.

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Speaker 4: And look, I was wrong. I said I thought Bama could keep it close.

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Speaker 5: I didn't think they were gonna win necessarily because I don't think I don't think Bam would even deserve to be in the playoff for that matter, but that's another conversation. But just from being down there and seeing those players, it's incredible when you look at what they up against every week. And it'll be that way again as they have a rematch now versus Oregon again, they will be outmatched by as far as the the eye test, you know, looking at both teams on the field before the game. But they have constantly overachieved and this is a damn good football team.

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Speaker 3: The hit on ty Simpson where he was scrambling, which was kind of a key moment in the game because he was gonna pick up a first down. I think it was ten to nothing at that point, and it was like, all right, if they could get down and get a score. You know, they get it to one score and then you know there's some you know, they start to feel good about things, and he just gets lit and fumbles the ball and you just see the look on his face and it looked like, all that's just a different level, Like they're playing Indiana's playing at a different level than we've seen before, and it should I just come away from that, yeah, really impressed, but shocked. To see Alabama. I think the stat was it's the first time Alabama's been held without a touchdown in a bowl game since nineteen sixty. I mean, they got clowned that wasn't closed yesterday and Indiana just did whatever they wanted to, just whatever they wanted to all game one, totally exposed them.

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Speaker 2: It was really really impressive.

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Speaker 5: And look, you know, I think we can be critical of some of Alabama. For example, I think on a fourth and one, they're running like a jet sweep. It's like, dude, you're Alabama, Like you can't run the football like downhill versus a team that you've got a i mean decisive size advantage over on both sides of the ball. I mean, I do feel like Ryan Grubb just gets too cute sometimes with some of the things he does. And it again credit to Indiana, you know, defensively, and we've talked about this before and obviously Levar's not here today working with us, but they do something that's like somewhat unique. You don't hear you know, usually pre snap, a lot of defensive players are assigned to a gap. They allowed their defensive front to basically penetrate, you know, get upfield penetrate and they allow the backers to fit off of that, and there's elements of that that take place on every level. But when you watch them, it's so fluid. They never feel like they're out of position, they never feel like they're out of a gap, and they just work together. They do all those little things that like you hear in your top And again, credit to Kurt Signetti and credit to the staff. You know, his staff has been with him for such a long period of time that it just it feels like they have a sense in every phase of how they want to play the game together. Like the offense, defense especially is all working in unison. And then they have a quarterback who you know, is as efficient, is as accurate, is as tough and gritty at times. I mean, Fernando Mendoz is not one of the better athletes that's gonna be on the field, but he finds a way to use his legs to extend plays when something is not there. He finds a way of you know, not creating a disaster of a play. He gets upfield, he gets what he can it's positive yardage or back to the line of scrimmage. You know, he throws the football away. I just the entire group is so impressive. And you know, of all the teams that you look at and say, well, everyone else, you know they got to buy couldn't figure it out in that quarterfinal round.

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Speaker 4: Not the case for Indiana.

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Speaker 5: Like they're taking every narrative and they're throwing it out the window.

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Speaker 4: And I think the spin off of this conversation is they're doing this at Indiana. This isn't a blue blood like this is a.

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Speaker 5: Program that again has been a doormat in college football with a few exceptions throughout its history besides the past two years since Kurt Signetty got there, and they've turned it around to this and we can look at other examples. We can look at Vanderbilt right like we can start saying, hey, there's as much parity in college football as ever because of the transfer portal, and now that's the level of the playing field because of NIL and how some institutions and some programs have been able to benefit from that and helping to create more Perry and their roster and some of their top line players.

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Speaker 4: That's part of it too. What it puts a lot of.

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Speaker 5: Other coaches on notice, like if those if those programs have the money to.

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Speaker 4: Buy out those coaches, he'll do it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And those guys are feeling that they're feel like they're on the hot seat right now. And the programs that aren't buying those coaches out, probably because they don't have the money.

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Speaker 4: That's a tough spot to be in.

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Speaker 5: But Indiana doing what they've done to me, I don't know if you agree with this, but I think it's the greatest turnaround in sports, like, not just college football, in sports. With what they've been able to do thus far. And if they if they wouldn't all it only adds to it. But even just getting to this point, it's incredible now.

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Speaker 3: Kurt Signetti afterwards was on with Rees Davis on the stage after the Rose Bowl and uh, you know, was asked about the movie Hoos Yours, but he made sure to let people know there's a rallying cry there in Bloomington.

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Speaker 7: Who would start Urt Signetti in the movie.

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Speaker 8: I don't know about that one, but there'd been a lot there, a big cast of characters.

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Speaker 2: Because it's all about people.

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Speaker 8: You gotta have the right people on your staff, the right guys in the locker room. And we've been very fortunate and these.

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Speaker 2: Guys buy in.

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Speaker 8: They all think alike, they play like we want them to play. There's been a lot of first It is kind of surreal. There's no doubt about it. I understand why there's been a lot of skeptics. But I only have one thing to say.

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Speaker 7: Perfectly said, perfect gratulations.

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Speaker 4: Champ Man. I'm telling and I don't say this much.

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Speaker 5: I was obviously down with the Orange Bowl yesterday and there before the Oregon Texas Tech game, and there was Indiana fans there, like the people who dressed up New Year's that are celebrating it in South Florida and just wanted to come to the game. And I guess they're just waiting to keep moving along with Indiana as they go through the playoff. But they have a fan base that is crazy about what this team is accomplished. And there's that saying like, act like you've been there before. Well, look, let's get of Indiana fans. Uh, you know, a little room for air here, because yeah, like this is a first. They've never been here before, so they don't know how to act about it. So I'm okay with them while I'm out right now. When you see those Inana fans who are excited about what their team's done.

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Speaker 3: Look, I know it's it's way too early to start talking dynasties and all that stuff with an end they haven't won one yet, But I'm just saying in the sense of, because you pointed out, you know, we're getting to like they've never done anything close to this before, Like when we grew up, you know, the Jordan Bulls.

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Speaker 2: You know, that was like the team, like everybody.

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Speaker 3: Loved the Jordan Bulls, but there was a long time before that where they were awful like they were, and so it's hard to imagine in the moment like oh really the but you we were sort of there in the embryotic stages of them developing into this great team and and and all of a sudden, the history of the team completely changed, and it almost feels like we're getting to live in the moment of the beginning stages of maybe another powerhouse. And it's kind of cool to watch because, yeah, the history of it, they've been so bad for like the worst, so bad for so long, and yet here they are and it's two years in a row and they're dominating great programs like Alabama. I think It's a cool opportunity to see something from the beginning stages because look, there's a lot of you know, and you mentioned and I've talked about this before when you walk through the you know, the Boston it was at Logan Airport in Boston. They've got all the championship flags there.

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Speaker 2: You're in laws.

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Speaker 3: But there was a long time before the Patriots went on that dynasty.

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Speaker 2: They were terrible, terrible, Like a lot of Patriots fans remember that.

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Speaker 3: And there's you know, a group of Patriots fans now that look around and go all I know for the most part is success, and they're back and potentially going to make a deep run and maybe have the MVP of.

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Speaker 2: The league this year.

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Speaker 3: I think Indiana is in the beginning stages of all this, and I think it's really cool to watch because we'll be able to if this goes the way that it's gone the first two years with Signetti, we'll be able to tell people years down the road, Oh, you guys have no idea what this was like beforehand, Like enjoy it. Yeah, they're popping up left and right. Maybe there's some in CTI fans that are that are jumping around and saying, you know, bringing out all their old Indiana stuff. But I just think it illustrates how desolate things were there for Indiana for so long, to where yeah it was a basketball school and Kurt Signetti's got him rolling. Man, it's fine.

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Speaker 5: Well, and that's where even like, because I was talking with my in laws about this, because I said, you know, even before the Patriots went on the round with the Belichick, like they'd been to a super Bowl with Parcels and what Tony Easton at quarterback, you know, they experienced like some level of getting to the championship before, like really the greatness occurred there.

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Speaker 4: There's nothing like this, No, like there's been nothing.

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Speaker 5: I mean, Tom Allen had a nine to ten one year whatever it was or somewhere in that ballpark where he was competitive in Indiana, and hell it might have been that shit in a COVID year now that I think about it, when Michael Pennix was there and they kind of competed.

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Speaker 4: Within the Big ten.

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Speaker 5: But they've never really been able to replicate anything of what they have done these past two years. It's why I keep kind of going back to I can't think of another really program that has struggled to the degree that Indiana has and has now done this. And I think, look again, we're only at the semi final portion of the of the playoff or the tournament. But the hard thing is they're gonna have to start over again at quarterback. Now his brother, Fernando's.

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Speaker 4: Brother Alberto I believe is his first name. He's there's the backup.

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Speaker 5: So I would assume that might be a guy that looking at or maybe Signetti wants to go back to the portal again because they've they've kind of lived off of two things, and that's some of the players he brought from James Madison with him, but also from portal plays that he's you know, has transferred in very similar to Fernanda Mendoza coming from cal So, you know, in one way, that's one of the things that's allowed them to be able to go on this run and build the roster the way they have, and the other, you know, part of that is there's gonna be times where you miss. And so that's why when you talk about even mentioning dynasty, like dude, this is so hard to do, and especially the way they have done it in some ways early on because there's so much roster turnover, and there will be like, this is a team that has players are gonna get drafted, Like there will be the most players from this roster drafted.

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Speaker 4: In Indiana history. And I don't know that it's gonna be close.

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Speaker 5: So replacing Mendoza, replacing some of these players, you're going to lose, and then trying to come back and do it again. That's the tough part. But it feels like Signetti has And when you talk to his staff and you talk to like what would be the equivalent of their front office folks in their scouting department, you know those guys say, you know, he sits down with all these players and he's very, very diligent with how he does film and always cut ups and different things he does. He's like, so he sees the player, he knows the player what they're capable of. But the secret is he talks to them and he interviews them, and from that singular meeting, when they walk out of the room their.

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Speaker 4: Scouting department, he'll kind of give a nod of yes or no.

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Speaker 5: And to the point of what he said postgame about all these guys buying in, all these guys are on the same page, there is some conversation that occurs, and whatever is said back to him, he's able to discern whether.

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Speaker 4: Or not that person is the right fit.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 5: And I think that's one of the biggest things that stands out to me about just what they've accomplished is, Dude, it's a bunch of I don't want to say castaways or misfits as they've described.

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Speaker 4: Themselves, but I look at a guy like Pat Coogan. He was at Notre Dame.

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Speaker 5: He was there somewhat in a backup role, but then he got thrust it into a starting role.

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Speaker 4: Was phenomenal at Notre Dame.

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Speaker 5: But he's not there anymore, in part because he wasn't going to start this upcoming season, so he transfers to Indiana and now he's a part of the team that's playing in the semi final, potentially for a national championship.

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Speaker 4: And you look at like a player like that, for.

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Speaker 5: Example, he obviously has a certain makeup of a certain building and a huge chip on his shoulder. And I think that's what Kurt Signetti has really found in a lot of these players is at one point they were told they weren't big enough. They weren't fast enough, they weren't good enough, they weren't smart enough, and he's found an edge and he's found a way to use them in the right way where they fit. And I think it's a lesson for like dude life or like a lot of people maybe might be listening who are in a job that they're not they don't feel appreciated in, or theyn't feel like they're maximized in. Like man, you can be passionate as you want about something, but you also have to be in the right place and the right fit for what that place is looking for. And that's one where Indiana's like the case study for that right now, because it feels like every single person that walks in that program and he brings on his team and he decides to coach and develop, it just seems like the right fit and they're fit for one another.

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Speaker 3: If you go to Sports Reference and you just look up Indiana, just look up the school history. God, they've had some bad years. Whoa like these and you pointed this out. It's the first time. The first time they ever won double digit games in the season was last year. Like just it's crazy in the history of the program, and it's not like they just got here, you know, twenty minutes ago, or it's Yukon. It's been around football for a long time. One hundred in the stadium. Stadium looks like one hundred and twenty seven years of Indiana football and we're finally here, so so good for them.

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Speaker 4: That was really what he was making plays the entire game.

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Speaker 5: I mean, there was a back to back series of scrambles that were as good as I've.

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Speaker 4: Seen this entire season in college football.

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Speaker 5: Like his little kind of backing out of the pockets, scrambling back is deep as his own territory and just flipping it out to the flat and that was followed by a very similar move with a big completion downfield, although it ended in a bit of an injury.

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Speaker 4: But you know, he's he to me and been watching him this year.

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Speaker 5: I wasn't sure based on how all miss started the season, you know, if he would be able to kind of take over and beat the guy. He has been everything as advertised, and I.

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Speaker 4: Think, look the win.

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Speaker 5: It's a huge moment for Pete Golding, who helped take over this team and stabilize it. It's a credit to the coaches who came back and wanted to coach because clearly there's a riff there and you know they had to plead with Lane Kiffin to do so. But it's also kind of a sad moment where you think about the fact that that's one of the This is a team that's overcome so many distractions to be able to make it to this point potentially not even play for a national championship, and their head coaches has moved on and I'm not here to, like, you know, cast blame on Lane Kiff and everything else. I think it's a greater issue of the college football calendar that Dan Lanning actually drew a lot of attention to in his press conference before the Orange Bowl and saying like, this whole schedule needs.

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Speaker 4: To be revamped.

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Speaker 5: You know, even if we able to move up the regular season to week zero, the fact that we have a coach who's moved on their team now is playing the semi final is an example of like, we shouldn't have to be doing that. The portal window opens today, there's still four teams playing for a national championship, and there's players on those teams who know they may not be playing next year in their current position and have to make a decision at some point here soon whether or not they're going to transfer. That's putting them in a terrible position. That's putting coach who are coaching right now at Old Miss, And there's some uncertainty of whether or not some of those assistant coaches who have been with Old Miss but are going to be eventually at LSU are going to even continue to coach. Yeah, as this thing draws even closer. So it just the entire thing is a bit of a mess. And as much as it's amazing to see what Old Miss has done, it also kind of highlights a little bit of the issues that we're facing college football.

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Speaker 2: So this from ESPN.

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Speaker 3: With the portal opening obviously today, the Rebels aren't certain that they will have all of those assistants that have helped them and helped them last night in the Sugar Bowl. They're not sure if they'll have all those assistants with the team when they play the Hurricanes in six days. A source said some of the assistants have apparently pushed back on leaving an Ole Miss team that is two victories away from winning a national championship. Quote, there are going to be some fireworks. An Ole Miss source told ESPN. We always knew this might be a possibility. So, I mean, how could you leave? And if you're Lane Kiffin, what you're getting paid, dude, Like he's getting his he's getting his share, But I get it, he's got to look for lookout for the betterment of his future at LSU. It just it feels like this was maybe the worst, other than the financial aspect, the worst outcome for LSU and Lane Kiffin because.

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Speaker 2: Now, well, you look like you look like kind of an a hole.

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Speaker 3: If you tell those guys they got to come back after what's gone on and these kids getting this close to potentially winning a national championship.

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Speaker 5: I'll be honest with you, I don't really care about the scenario for LSU and Lane Kiffin, like he made his decision, he chose to leave, Like my, my, you know, concern is more for All Miss if they can kind of keep this thing going and hopefully those assistant coaches who are there. And I don't just say this, Charlie Weisse Junior, who I've known since he was a young young boy, I'm just so impressed with what he's grown into as a coach, the way he took on one of the top defensive minds in Kirby Smart and his staff, and the job he did the entire game, it felt like Ole Miss was moving the football. They had this flowed to it and a rhythm to their offense, and there were always one step ahead that you don't see that very often versus Georgia defense or a Kirby Smart coach team. And this was a scenario where I'm watching it going, dude, this is this is like a masterclass right now at times. And meanwhile Georgia and Mike Boba, it's like they couldn't find anything, anything that they could kind of hang their hat on with consistency, and I don't know if you want to say, you know, Crediga and Pete Golding the defense the job they did too in that respect, but it felt like Gunnar Stockton was a bit off. He never felt overly didn't seem like he was overly comfortable. He had to scramble, run around, make a bunch of plays. I mean, he took some shots in this game. But this was not the Georgia team I thought we were going to see. But also this is this has been a little bit of a bip of a lot of the narrative around the SEC. The SEC has kind of pushed up the team that they thought was their best team and had the best chance because if you really looked at old Missus resume getting into the playoff, they he played four teams with a winning record this season.

00:29:15
Speaker 4: It wasn't like they.

00:29:15
Speaker 5: Went through murderers row and they yet were still in as a sixth seed and obviously had a layup in their first round game. But this was more of a true proven moment and so congrats to the players and coaches. I hope they stay on. I hope someone talks sense in the lane Kiff, and he just says, look, man, I'm not making these guys come back. We can we can recruit, we can do what we need to do, you know, and have those guys be afar through the transfer portal, you know, during this period of you know, this time of year, Like we don't need them to be back yet. They can go finish the job they're doing. And if they win a national championship, so be it. Like they'll bring that with them when they come to LSU, that that experience and that on the resume.

00:29:54
Speaker 3: Pete Golding, the ole Miss coach, spoke afterwards about the wild month that it's been for the program.

00:30:00
Speaker 7: Code you called this last month a roller coaster.

00:30:03
Speaker 6: Yeah, how did your team and you overcome all of this to become Sugar Bowl champions?

00:30:08
Speaker 9: I mean, I think we got a great group of people in our building. I think it starts with our administration with Glenn Boyce and you know, our athlete Direth the Keith Carter, and we got a lot of good coaches in that building, you know, and a lot of guys are going through a lot of things, but they've been here for the kids the whole time.

00:30:20
Speaker 2: Then that's a special group of kids.

00:30:22
Speaker 3: That Cajun came out there. You know, he felt the old stomping grounds, he felt the old the old Cajun accident came out there.

00:30:28
Speaker 2: But it was pretty cool to see his son.

00:30:30
Speaker 3: Did you see how fired up his son was coming out with him like free game like a son looked like it was jacked, ready to light somebody up. I think I think it's an awesome storyline. It's it's kind of why. I think there was probably a lot of people rooting for this to happen, just to see how this goes. The way Lane Kiffin left I think didn't sit right with a lot of people the way the whole thing played out. And so I guess the report is Charlie Weist Junior is going to stay on, but they're not sure about the other assistants. Just let him stay, dude, Like, let him finish this thing out. If it goes one game, two more games, you're almost.

00:31:01
Speaker 2: At the end. Uh.

00:31:03
Speaker 3: It would be a really fun story to add on to the crazy, crazy circumstances that led to them in this spot to begin with, Like it feels like a.

00:31:15
Speaker 5: I know the line was that you know six and a half, I'm not sure, if anyone could ever you know, had if they had you know, that number and anything, I don't even want to talk about. But the way that game finished, I mean, someone someone's on the on the wrong side of that finish, that bad beat. Pete Prisco is siding with someone on that one. That's unbelievable. Yeah, can they what was going on there?

00:31:39
Speaker 3: Like nobody could figure out whether or not, like the game was actually over, It wasn't over. And then they do a you know, a free on side kick and Oleness doesn't touch it, so it's recovered and and and it gives Georgia another chance. If Georgia would have won that game, which you know, based on the play you know they chosen that spot wasn't gonna happen. But if they would have won that game, and that's the all time classic gag job that we've seen, all time classic.

00:32:06
Speaker 5: But well, just the fact them down ten and the fourth with nine minutes left to come back, you know, made it more at least entertainning. I mean, that was the That was the game that I think we all kind of needed after watching the games earlier.

00:32:17
Speaker 4: In the day that were just not competitive by any means. I mean, it was.

00:32:22
Speaker 5: It was, it was tough to watch, and look, I think it even draws more attention to the involvement of the group of six teams.

00:32:28
Speaker 4: And hey, look at James Madison.

00:32:30
Speaker 5: Look what they did in Oregon's you know, home stadium, you know, versus that defense. You know, that was a even though it wasn't a tight game in the first half, at least there was a bit more production, you know too, and you saw more scoring in the second half. So there's a lot of conversations to be had. I think big picture that the toughest thing for me is and just kind of goes back to, you know, just looking at the resumes of some of the teams, is we now, for the third straight year have two teams from the Big Ten who are playing the semi finals. We're gonna have a third straight year of the Big Ten guaranteed to have a team in it playing for the national championship.

00:33:07
Speaker 4: And I just think the.

00:33:09
Speaker 5: Narratives surrounding the SEC, which got five teams in, it's got to change at some point where people stop realizing that outside of a couple of teams, and then, by the way, this goes for the Big Ten two but outside of a handful of teams, like everyone else is pretty much the same, like it just they are and us acting like going through the eight game conference schedule the SEC goes through is such a gauntlet. It's not any more of a gauntlet than the nine games that the Big Ten goes through. And we're seeing that in real time. It's a more physical brand of football. They're better defenses in the Big Ten. You know, one of the things that's kind of flown under the radar is obviously the running clock as you compare you know, the point totals and production. Like a lot of people made this comment about the Heisman Trophy ceremony and well, like, look at these guys. None of these guys are putting up the stats that we used to have. Well, the clock is run different now too. You know, you've got a running clock in more scenarios that's closer to the NFL style. So the games are tighter and in tighter games, less possessions, With less possessions, less opportunities to score. And obviously teams aren't playing with the quarterback communication as fast as they once were, where they're just signaling it in and playing at warp speed. They'll still do tempo every once in a while, but it's not as fast, so you get lower scoring, tighter games, which kind of has been Big Ten football. But now with the parody of the transfer portal and then I own everything else, you're just you're seeing a transition from what was the SEC, as you pointed out, to more of the Big Ten. You know, that's that's what's where we're at now, Like that conference is kind of leading the way, and especially if they win a third straight national championship, there should be more of a conversation.

00:34:54
Speaker 4: About some of those at large bids.

00:34:56
Speaker 5: And I would even say this, like, hopefully after this year there's more of a conference about expansion and going to sixteen teams, so we don't have to have a conversation about, hey, these teams off buys can't score.

00:35:07
Speaker 4: I mean, obviously Indiana's the only one that's been able to prove that wrong.

00:35:10
Speaker 5: But you know, that's another narrative that's out there that will be a large piece of discussion in the offseason. Now.

00:35:17
Speaker 3: As somebody who worked in SEC country, and I loved it. It made me appreciate and love college football even more. I do kind of like the idea of SEC Ball washers kicking and screaming while being pulled to reality that hey, it's changed, man, It's no longer the dominant conference that once was no longer.

00:35:43
Speaker 2: You no longer have this.

00:35:44
Speaker 3: Significant lead over anybody else, if any lead at all.

00:35:47
Speaker 2: Like things have changed.

00:35:48
Speaker 3: And I just like the idea of the defiance and the unwillingness to just recognize that it's no longer your sport and everybody else is just a part of it.

00:36:00
Speaker 2: Things have changed in college football.

00:36:01
Speaker 5: I kind of like that. I kind of like it. It's fine, it's only it's only going to get better. I mean, think about Matt Canwbill taking over at Penn State. Think about Pat Fitzeral taking over in Michigan State. You know, you add ship Kelly to to David Bron's team in Northwestern, like everyone wants to be old Northwestern Bro.

00:36:17
Speaker 4: Go back and look how competitive they are in some of those games.

00:36:20
Speaker 5: Like that's a team that I mean, they may need a few playmakers, but they're not as far off either. And again, people can laugh at that all they want. They probably don't watch the film. They probably haven't watched some of these teams and how they play. I mean, they gave Michigan all they could handle this year. And you just watch Michigan in Texas, right, the nine to three team that that should have gotten in, right, that just barely beat You know, Michigan Arch played great, but you know, watching that game or going well Michigan had had struggled versus Northwestern, I wonder what Northwestern Texas would look like. I mean, again, there's more parody in college football than we'd like to admit.

00:36:55
Speaker 4: And that's the bottom line. That's good I think we've seen, which is great. It's great for the sport.

00:36:59
Speaker 5: But the hard part is when you get to these the tournament format, it then leads to these narratives around well Texas Tech didn't deserve to be there.

00:37:07
Speaker 4: It's like, yes, they did, all right, they were dominant this year. They rolled out the ball.

00:37:11
Speaker 5: And had one of the worst games of the season, and that happens. You know, Alabama clearly didn't play up to their standards, but that was also a team that was probably on a down held trajectory. We watched in the SEC championship game, we watched them struggle to beat Auburn.

00:37:25
Speaker 4: I mean, the signs were there.

00:37:27
Speaker 5: Unfortunately the committee and then again, this is our conversation for another segment, but the committee just didn't want to see it, and again in part because we're a bit blinded by the past and the history and no different than me being wrong about Hey, take the points in Bama like they can keep this close. I mean every like looking at that line going man Bama like they're a touchdown or more underdog, Like there's no way. But that's part of even my own you know, bias and looking at history and tradition and seeing these teams up close on the field and all that and not, you know, instead looking at what I've watched on table.

00:38:01
Speaker 4: You're with Indiana. It's the best team wire to wire on table here.

00:38:04
Speaker 2: I mean, don't be so hard on yourself.

00:38:06
Speaker 3: We've got one hundred and twenty five years of bad football as evidence. Yeah, I think there was enough there to go. You know, that's that's way too big of a line. Yeah, it's just it's just, yeah, there's more parody, and I think it's I think it's great for the sport. It's gonna be fun because conversations has got to start to change. It is The Dan Patrick Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Brady Quinn Jonas Knox with you in for Dan and the guys coming up next here that we're going to have something we do on our show. It's called in Case You missed It, and it's yours here on FSR.

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00:39:27
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00:39:41
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00:39:46
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00:39:47
Speaker 2: Jonah?

00:39:51
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00:40:00
Speaker 10: It's in case you missed the time, guys. Well, in case you did miss it, here, guys, Troy Aikman we all know and love Troy Aikman on on the broadcast. You know, former NFL great. Right, Well, he's gonna be right exactly. Well, he's gonna have a little bit more on his.

00:40:16
Speaker 7: Plate here, guys.

00:40:17
Speaker 10: He's going to advise the Miami Dolphins on their GM search. He's been brought aboard as a consultant. Everybody. It's not permanent, but he's helping them find their next Dolphins general manager. Apparently, apparently the Cowboys don't need his help.

00:40:34
Speaker 2: They got everything covers. You know, we got it. We got it too.

00:40:38
Speaker 4: I do wonder how this sits with old Jerry Jones.

00:40:41
Speaker 3: About it like that out of take because Troike whuls been very openly critical of Jerry Jones, especially in the last couple of years.

00:40:49
Speaker 5: Well, the other part of this conversation is, you know, you've got a former Dallas Cowboy great, a Pro Football Hall of Famer.

00:40:58
Speaker 4: Well not you know when Dane Know. I was just with Dan yesterday.

00:41:01
Speaker 5: You know, I'm sure he would be glad to help out the organization that regard now, I would say maybe because of what Troy is doing now being in the broadcast booth. And people can take issue with this whether or not they want. But when you are on TV, when you're in the broadcast booth, you tend to run into a lot more people who are probably suited for that job, and you talk to a lot of different organizations. You talk to the ownership groups, the front office people, you know, agetting, the coaching staffs, players, You've got a feel for all of it. So, you know, bringing him on in a sense and getting his perspective on all of it, it's probably wise. It's just interesting to me that you know again, and I don't know what that group looks like that's helping them make this decision. But you know, there's a lot of great Miami Dolphins players, you know, players or former players that are down there that could probably help out.

00:41:47
Speaker 4: I mean that more.

00:41:48
Speaker 5: He's a guy who serves on the Orange Bowl committee with me. He's another one. Now I'm sure would love to be involved in that process.

00:41:54
Speaker 3: I mean, Jay Fiedler, Cleo Lemon, like, all right now, now you're just sorry rosen Fels.

00:42:01
Speaker 2: Wasn't Sage rosen Fels? I mean, come on, Sage was down there.

00:42:04
Speaker 5: Sage was down there did the old time greatest, uh, you know, finding a way to get released to get another team. That's story. But do you have time to tell me?

00:42:13
Speaker 4: You don't have more?

00:42:14
Speaker 2: We get the bring well enough time?

00:42:15
Speaker 4: Else we got man?

00:42:16
Speaker 2: All right?

00:42:16
Speaker 7: So what else we got? Well, Lamar Jackson is back.

00:42:19
Speaker 10: He's actually gone on to say, yeah, one hundred, I'm gonna be out there. And he even told people I never quit on my team. He didn't know where that noise came from. And when asked if he fell asleep in meetings, do you think Harbaugh would let me do that?

00:42:32
Speaker 2: That's what happened.

00:42:33
Speaker 4: I mean, Jonas here the most critical.

00:42:35
Speaker 2: What's your comment, what's he gonna say?

00:42:39
Speaker 3: Yeah, I dozed off for a few minutes, Yeah yeah, so what of course he's gonna push back on it. I just don't believe a story without much detail just came up out of thin air, all right, So I do think there's some validity there. What do you think about that? Our two next