Ken Rosenthal: 1B trade ideas, White Sox/Brewers deal, Dobbins comments + MLB ratings spike

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Speaker 1: So your teammates stood up for you or they felt sorry for you? How to protect you? Which one was it? Uh?

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Speaker 2: Stood up from the AJA because they love me.

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Speaker 1: There's the overinflation there it is.

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Speaker 3: There's the over inflation of their athletic career.

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Speaker 4: It's the inside scoop with FT senior insider Ken Rosenthal. Oh wow, we've got Ken on a Friday and AJ working on a Friday, so beware, but I'm going to start with some bizz Ken. I read through the notes column and I wanted to begin with your first base trade ideas first baseman who could land on teams that need them?

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Speaker 5: Your thoughts, well, I said in the column that I generally hate playing a guessing game, saying, ah.

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Speaker 1: This player might fit here.

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Speaker 5: It really works out that way, and we should be reporting on this stuff, not speculating. But I did it myself anyway, of course, because I'm guilty of it as well. And in this particular case, we've got Josh Naylor of the Diamondbacks.

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Speaker 2: Ryan O'Hearn of the Orioles.

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Speaker 5: Both those teams not committed sellers yet I think they will be sellers. Most of the industry believes they will be sellers. And there are three teams with obvious needs at first base. San Francisco is one DFA Lamont wayde Junior, and they've got Dominic Smith now, good game last night, but.

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Speaker 2: He's more of a stopgap.

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Speaker 5: Seattle is another rowdy Telez has hit him home runs on base is really low.

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Speaker 2: And then Boston. We know all about Boston and them needing a first baseman.

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Speaker 5: So it seems to me that those teams should be in on those guys. But who knows what the next seven weeks might bring. And that's the caveat here with all of this trade talk.

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Speaker 2: Right now, it's really early.

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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 5: There was a trade today, obviously, but that was a very unique situation. But so much is going to play out over the next seven weeks. I wrote about Arcontra yesterday and how he looked better in his last two starts, admittedly against Colorado and Pittsburgh, but going forward, he's got a chance now to restore his value, to become the pitcher that we all thought he would be, maybe not right away coming off Tommy John, but certainly in some reasonable time frame.

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Speaker 2: So here we go.

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Speaker 3: Keen, we talked heavily about Savale in his trade request and I said he was gonna get trade at Cratston. Think he the Bruers a trade on what I did. The Brewers aren't a team to sit around and have someone you know, it's not happy. They're stick around, So I applaud them for doing it. But why don't we see more of.

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Speaker 1: This in Major League Baseball? It happens in other sports.

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Speaker 3: You see it in football, you see it in basketball, But in baseball this doesn't happen as often.

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Speaker 1: Why not?

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Speaker 5: The deadline drives so much activity, and it's like anything else in life. Aja, people don't move until they have a deadline. And in this case of Savali, it was a different situation. It was different because they had a seeming surplus of starters. He was bumped from the rotation. He is a potential free agent who wants to can continues starting, so he asked for a trade, and the Brewers honored his request, and it did happen more quickly than I thought. I thought this would need some time to play out. But the White Sox surely want a veteran starter, and they can flip Savali if he performs well over the next seven weeks. It was a good deal for them. And for the Brewers they get a guy and Andrew On. I do not know what has happened to Andrew On, number three pick in the draft not so long ago, but maybe he goes to Triple A, finds himself a little bit.

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Speaker 2: And contributes to the Brewers down the stretch.

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Speaker 3: Does this make a change, Because NBA this happens all the time football. You hear about, Oh I'm not happy, I'm gonna baseball. This is rare that it gets out. I'm not saying it's not happening behind the scenes, but do you feel like this is a shift or is it such a unique situation where Savali's on a free agent year. He's not a big name, but he was upset and it came out.

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Speaker 5: It's somewhat unique. And we were tipped off yesterday that he had requested the trade agent confirmed it. I went to the agent with the information, so we were going to go with it anyway, but he did confirm it. And it is unusual that it does get public for whatever reason. And teams, of course love their secrets, they love them more than anything, and players generally don't want to look bad, and Sabali, you could possibly say, look bad for this, although it was certainly understandable why he would want a trade in the circumstance he was in. So it doesn't get out much. It does happen behind the scenes. I would expect more often than not in situations like this where a player is kind of boxed in, where his opportunity has been taken away or isn't there in the first place, and that's why you see deals of this nature occur.

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Speaker 4: Ken, what did you think of the other side of this one? Andrew Vaughn moves over to the Brewers and we're talking about how it's kind of I don't want to say sad, but just wild to see how how.

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Speaker 6: Quickly the game changes in terms of teams.

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Speaker 4: And obviously the White Sox has been terrible for the last couple of years, but Lloyjamenez kind of given away last year, and now Vaughn, who's been down in Triple A moving on to the Brewers. What do you think of that side of the story.

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Speaker 5: Scott, That's an interesting way to look at it, because the White Sox at one time, not long ago twenty one, had this core of Vaughan Jimenez, Tim Anderson, Jan Mancato, all of these players.

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Speaker 2: And right now pretty much all of them are gone.

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Speaker 5: Vaughn is a guy that it's a little bit of a mystery to me what has happened, And I will admit I have.

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Speaker 2: Not followed it as closely as perhaps I should have.

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Speaker 5: But a change of scenery in this particular player's case might be a very good thing because he is not a player without talent. He would not have been the number three pick in the draft if he lacked talent. But for whatever reason, over the last several years, it has just gone south for him.

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Speaker 1: Maybe the environment's part of it.

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Speaker 5: They certainly can't blame it all that it's on the player. It'll be interesting to see now if with this change of scene he somehow revives, and we'll see it's something that will play out here over the next several weeks and months. And if he does revive, then for the Brewers this was terrific.

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Speaker 3: He talked about an environment that he was put into. He was put into a playoff environment right there in twenty one, right away, so he was around a successful team. Is this more an AJ kind of asked me the same question. I didn't really know the answer early. Is this more an indictment on developing kids at the big leagues for the White Sox, or lack of developing them in the minor leagues and then getting them called up, Because if you say it's the minor leagues, they took that guy and then made him the GM of the big league team.

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Speaker 5: Now, I don't have an answer for that, Eric, I don't know exactly the percentage of blame how to allocate it, but certainly you're accurate in saying that the general manager of the White Sox, Chris Gets used to be their farm director. Now, if I recall, Andrew Vaughn was not in the minor leagues very long. So whether it's a failure of development, whether he just stalled for whatever reason, again, I'm not entirely sure. Actually made some calls on this today asking around because I'd like to know what happens. Haven't found out yet, haven't gotten those calls back, So again, whatever the answer might be there, he has a fresh start here, he has an opportunity to do some good things, and the Brewers are going to give him that opportunity.

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Speaker 2: They badly need offense.

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Speaker 5: So if he does anything at all at Triple A, I would expect it they give him a chance to contribute at the major league level.

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Speaker 5: Well, I know why you were rubbing your fingers, Scott, because obviously players go where the money is, and if the Giants make the best offer for a free agent bat, they're going to get in many cases, as long as it's the best offer the free agent bat. That's how this thing works. And I don't know that willia Damas had any other suitors at the level where the Giants were.

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Speaker 2: Now again, are we talking about.

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Speaker 5: The ballpark here or are we talking about the player? And are we talking about the adjustment in a free agent scenario, much like Wan Soto went through with the Mets. Sometimes it takes guy's time, and willia Damas of late has been a little bit better. He shit some home runs, hit some balls hard, so I expect him to still be a good player for them this year. Williadamas was never a superstar. He was a good player, good offensive player, good defender. But to ask him to be something more than that is probably asking too much. So you certainly can ask for more than they've gotten and they should get more than they've gotten. But at the same time, I don't know that it affects anything in the future as far as free agent recruiting with the Giants.

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Speaker 3: By the way, you can't blame no one wants to blame everything on the park like it's he's off to a rough start. I mean, look at him before he went to the Brewers. He wasn't that great. Like before he went to the Brewers. He went to the Brewers, figured something out. Now he's not on the Brewers anymore. Stuff happens, I don't know, but he got paid, so good for him. Good for you, Willie, Good for you. But let's talk about another guy took a chance and went to a place where, you know, pitching's supposed to be hard to do. Ryan Yarborough went to the Yankees, right, No one's supposed to be able to pitch the Yankee Stadium.

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Speaker 1: It's a home run hitters park.

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Speaker 3: He's doing okay, and he's thriving after leaving the Blue Jays.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I wrote about him today, and it's an interesting story because the Jays had a chance to keep him and when spring training ended, they basically asked him for a clause in his minor league deal in which if they added him to the major league roster, they would have forty five days to evaluate him and then release him. If they didn't want him, terminate the deal right there, not owe him any more money. He signs the same deal with the Yankees. The incentives were a little bit different.

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Speaker 2: That's it.

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Speaker 5: And I asked him why, and he said, well, with the Blue Jays, I had proven myself in the final two months.

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Speaker 6: Of last year.

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Speaker 5: I didn't know why they would want that from me. With the Yankees, Okay, they haven't seen me.

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Speaker 2: It's a new team.

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Speaker 5: I'm willing to take that same thing and that forty five day risk where I could get terminated. And yes, he has thrived, as sometimes pitchers.

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Speaker 2: Do with the Yankees after going there.

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Speaker 5: Luke Weaver is another great example of a relatively unheralded guy who gets into the Yankees pitching factory and suddenly becomes more than he was before. That's what we've seen from Yarborough so far. Now, admittedly it's not a lengthy sample size, but he had five really good starts before last weekend against Boston, where he allowed eight runs in four innings. He faces the Red Sox again tonight. Historically has had huge problems with the Red Sox, so we'll see. But for the Yankees, it proved to be at least somewhat of a good move for the first several months of the season, and the Jay's it turns out, could have used a guy like that. Even as well as they're playing, they still could use a guy like Ryan Yarborough, who is over the years proven to be a pretty difficult guy to hit, even though he doesn't throw very hard.

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Speaker 4: Hey, Ken, he pitched your next, your next, a Jamie were fighting, you got last one. I'm going to go second to last. So Yarborough of course had some issues with the Red Sox back to his Raise days. That's where he pitched, you know, most of the beginning of his career, first half of his career, whatever you want to call it. I did want to get to what you wrote about in your notes column on the Rays, because I think there's a larger discussion at play. Sometimes people look at the race and think they're the forward thinking org so they kind of walk everyone into openers and using up your bullpen as much as possible, and then boom, this year their starters are more useful than maybe any rotation in baseball. So when'd you wrote about what do you think about the direction where they're heading.

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Speaker 5: It's a really interesting development to see them lead the league in rotation innings and with the Rays when they were using openers and introducing that and bulk pitchers. The way Eric Neander, their president of Baseball Operations, explains it, they were trying to develop guys. They wanted relievers pitching at the start of the game, maybe to release the pressure on them a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Granted there's pressure at the start of.

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Speaker 5: The game, but it's not quite the same as a tie game in the eighth inning. They also didn't have starters to go seven or eight innings, and some of the guys who were developing they wanted to use in bulk rolls so they wouldn't have to face the top of the order three times, just the two times perhaps, and then get through.

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Speaker 2: It and get out of there.

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Speaker 5: Now they have the capability because of the personnel that they have to do more to have a traditional rotation, and what Neanders said is that's the goal. We all want seven innings starters. And while the Rays were criticized for trying to reinvent the wheel, being too cute.

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Speaker 2: And all of that.

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Speaker 5: The reality was they were doing it in their minds out of necessity. Now they don't have that same necessity. They have five quality starters and six if Shane McClanahan ever comes back. That's kind of in jeopardy right now in concern. So we'll see how it all plays out for them, because things will change over the course of the year. Of course, you will see pictures get hurt, you will see them become more ineffective. They've got a question now with Shane bozz is he pitching well enough to kind of stay in the rotation. But the Rays have gotten a ton of work out of their starters and it's been beneficial to them. And as the Unders said again, it's the goal all along. It's just you have to have the capability to do it, the right pictures to.

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Speaker 2: Do it with.

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Speaker 3: Ken, You're you're in New York, a New York game. You have a big game tomorrow their Red Sox.

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Speaker 1: And the Yankees. Sorry, it's Boston age as Boston, New York. Same difference, Ken.

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Speaker 6: Two hours two hours, two hours?

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Speaker 1: Can you can walk there to the least.

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Speaker 6: That joke, but I get in.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, hundred Dobbins is pitching tomorrow. Is he gonna get a standing ovation from Red Sox fans when he takes the mound? After all the crappy he went through this past week, with all the stuff we had him on here yesterday, he did a back down. He's like, yeah, bring it, I don't care. I ain't scared, right, it was an awesome interview. But tomorrow, when he takes the mount at Fenway after pitching against the Yankees last time, saying what he said in New York, now he gets to go to Fenway against the same team, are you expecting some special out of the Fenway crowd?

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Speaker 5: It's a good question, probably because he said he wouldn't ever go to the Yankees. He'd retire rather than be a Yankee. You talk about all the crap he went through, aj it was self inflicted. He's still he said things that were proven to be very quickly not true. So I understand what he said about not fact checking his father on the show. I thought that was a pretty good line.

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Speaker 6: I get it.

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Speaker 5: And I heard Jim Rome yesterday of all people talking about this, saying, Hey, what father hasn't inflated his past athletic accomplishments. Fair point, But at the same time he was rightly called out.

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Speaker 6: When you say things that aren't true, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 5: Yes, it's fair for reporters to check and see, Wait, what is he talking about here? So that's what happened. Whether he's a hero to Red Sox Nation because of it, guys have been a hero for dumber reasons. So all the power to him if that's the case.

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Speaker 1: Have you lied to your kids ken about your athletic accomplishments? That's what I want to know.

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Speaker 5: And you know what the answer is, no, because there's nothing to speak of.

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Speaker 1: We weren't even good at like Kiddley Winks or Jack.

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Speaker 6: I was last guy.

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Speaker 5: All right, Aja, here again.

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Speaker 1: You can tell you I was the last guy picked in basketball? Can we get you know?

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Speaker 5: I was the last guy on the worst soccer team on the island, and my senior year, because I was three foot six, the coach wanted to play me on jv for a fourth straight year, and I said, now, please put me on varsity. Even if I got to be on the bench, I want to be with my friends. And that's what it was. So there were no athletic accomplishments to speak of a j I don't have to lie about anything.

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Speaker 6: Okay, varsity?

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Speaker 1: So wait, hold up, you can play JV for four years. I didn't know you could play.

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Speaker 6: Rules in New York junior varsity as a senior. You can?

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Speaker 1: I mean I never heard of that. I guess, well, you never saw a player like me AJ, true, true, Hopefully we never see another one. Ken.

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Speaker 3: That's exactly like my big league career. I was like, I am sick of being in Triple A. I want to be up in the big leagues with my friends. So they were like, go for it.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 5: And my only accomplishment as a senior on the soccer team was getting run over by some kid on another team and that prompted a.

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Speaker 2: Full scale brawl. That was it. That's my are similar.

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Speaker 1: So we are similar than much.

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Speaker 6: That there was an actual fight on the field after that.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh yeah.

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Speaker 1: You see your team stood up for you or they felt sorry for you and how to protect you. Which one was it?

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Speaker 3: Uh?

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Speaker 5: Stood up for me AJ because they loved me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: There's the over inflation there, it is. There's the over inflation of their athletic career, right, there.

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Speaker 1: You just got to do it. See, this is how we set you up.

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Speaker 6: Well, this is it.

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Speaker 4: You can say my senior year on varsity, I incited a brawl.

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Speaker 6: Nothing, nothing, that's it.

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Speaker 1: It's it's not cool, you said, No, he's factual.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's actual. Exactly.

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Speaker 3: Yes, this is why A left New York. This is why AJ left New York. He couldn't have handled it. He was too soft. He had to go to Florida.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because I never started any brawls in high school.

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Speaker 4: No, I'm sure, I'm not sure A day was the quiet kid in the back.

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Speaker 6: I'm sure he waited. Yeah, exactly, Yeah, he said.

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Speaker 3: I told the story about hitting the picture in the head the other day when they get and the dude got it, others got it.

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Speaker 1: I got kicked out of that game. Sorry, Ken, And.

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Speaker 4: I said Hi, And I said Ken, I warned you Aj on a Friday. But enjoy have a great game tomorrow. We'll talk to you next week. Thanks guys, Thank you. Ken Rosenthal Fair Territory. Monday, he's back. He's live in the morning.

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Speaker 6: It's cool to see him on a Monday morning.

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Speaker 1: That's really good.

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Speaker 3: What if you're good, people come watch you, I mean, Boom, You spend money and you make the right moves and you're pretty good, and you make the playoffs the year before, and then you have excitement. You bring back Flairty, you know, you bring in some of these guys school GOLs back after the cy young guess what they do.

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Speaker 1: People come out and watch you.

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Speaker 3: You gotta spend money to make money At this slowl one, teams.

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Speaker 1: Are starting to figure that out.

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Speaker 3: I think maybe, wait, I want to know who the who's the biggest attendance? Jump?

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Speaker 1: If they're second, who's first? Mets?

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Speaker 6: Probably? I know the Mets are up big, Yes it is. It's Mets.

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Speaker 3: So the Mets are ahead of them in the standings and the attendance. Yep, Mets on the time.

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Speaker 4: Wait, so when BET's on the Tigers, when you're good and you add, you make more money.

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Speaker 1: Usually that's how it works.

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Speaker 6: Hold on, hold on.

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Speaker 4: No, yes, Bob Nutting watching right now. Pirates owner Bob Nutting needs the hear this. When you've got a core and you put a little bit into it, you actually make more.

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Speaker 6: No, that's it.

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Speaker 4: Could be hard to grasp when you haven't made a dime on your own. But that's how this works. It's that simple. And it's not just ticket sales.

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Speaker 6: Crafts.

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Speaker 4: Sales of Tigers merch on MLB's online shop up forty percent so far this season. Consumption of Tigers games outside their market is up a ton. Inside the market's obviously up a ton too, up almost one hundred percent.

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Speaker 6: So they're thriving.

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Speaker 3: No, that's no way. There's no way your portfolio could ever get better in if you own a sports team, because they win.

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Speaker 1: That's not.

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Speaker 3: There's no correlation there, there's no correlation. It's just stay status quo. Hire a GM that doesn't want to make any moves. He just wants to keep his job for five to seven years and just you know, just float along in life and watch your the value of your organization go up. Winning doesn't matter, No way, no way, more fans would come out in Pittsburgh. They don't love the way they do everything I just said with sarcasm.

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Speaker 4: And they I mentioned them because I don't know where they are market wise, but they're probably pretty close in market size. They have a sick ballpark, and they did their rebuild around the same time as the Tigers. And look where the Tigers are now, and look where the Pirates are now.

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Speaker 1: Just saying, how much money per game?

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Speaker 3: If you average almost eight thousand fans per game, how much more money per game do you think the Tigers make this year over last year?

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Speaker 6: Millions? Many millions.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm just I don't know, it's just a ques I don't know the answer, but I'm just I mean, I feel like we should take a guess at that because eight thousand more and what's the average ticket fifty?

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Speaker 1: If it's fifty.

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Speaker 6: Bucks and how many home games?

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I don't know. I'm just saying that's one game.

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Speaker 3: So that if you let's say you do twenty five million dollars, so a million dollars a game.

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Speaker 1: By the time you factor in concessions and parking and all.

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Speaker 6: That, we're way higher. We're way higher.

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Speaker 4: So let's do eight thousand fans, okay, times fifty dollars a ticket.

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Speaker 6: Okay, time times eighty games?

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Speaker 1: Ish yeah, no, no, yeah, I said a million a game.

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Speaker 4: While I'm already at and and they make a ton of food and everything else, we're already at thirty two million dollars we've.

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Speaker 1: Before, we before, that's just before food.

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Speaker 4: You can probably double that on food, merch, et cetera. So we're at them making maybe seventy million dollars more.

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Speaker 1: What isn't that what I said?

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I gotta be honest. I usually do listen to you, but I was doing math. No, but I had to I had to focus crats.

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Speaker 1: Okay, how much did they spend? How much should they spend?

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Speaker 3: I mean that that's seventy million, isn't they're making more than that?

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Speaker 1: Because then if they get to the postseason.

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Speaker 3: And plus the advertising rates of their games because the viewership is up goes up.

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Speaker 4: You sell on more on ads, you sell more on sponsorships, billboards, everything, Right, So call it one hundred.

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Speaker 6: They didn't spend one hundred, and even.

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Speaker 1: If they did, they're still gonna make They're gonna make more than that.

00:25:11
Speaker 4: They got Flaherty, they got labor. They tried to get Bregman, but they got Tommy Kinley.

00:25:18
Speaker 6: Add all that up. But this is the point. The Pirates could do the same thing to a t right.

00:25:25
Speaker 1: The Pirates don't have as good of a corps though.

00:25:27
Speaker 6: What No, but they could have done.

00:25:30
Speaker 1: They don't have as good of.

00:25:30
Speaker 3: A corm So they don't, don't They don't have as good of a corps what the Tigers.

00:25:33
Speaker 1: Have right now. Yeah, but they could have.

00:25:35
Speaker 3: The Tigers built. The Tigers built this whole corps originally around Casey mis Jackson, Joe. There was like there was like three like prime pitching candidates exactly what the Pirates are doing. Yeah, but I'm talking position wise, Riley Green, Spencer, Torkleson, Kerry Carpenter, Harry Carpenter, Parker Meadows. They've already had bias right. I mean, why did they have what they're better players than what the Pirates have. Why don't why don't the Pirates ever make any position players ever since? I mean, key Brian Hayes, they paid him, what's happened with that? I mean they were like, Oh, this is going to be the real deal, Ryan Reynolds, O'Neill, O'Neil Cruz, Like they had guys that were going to be the guys they drafted Henry Davis one to one somewhere in there, somewhere in the drafting to the developing guys to be big leaguers, they're falling flat.

00:26:34
Speaker 1: On their face in my opinion. Well, that's my point.

00:26:37
Speaker 3: The Tigers have better players. That's why the Pirates can't do this. Because the Tigers have better players. Whether there's development, draft, whatever you want to call it, they have better players than the Pirates do.

00:26:47
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I'm saying, if the Pirates spent like the Tigers spent this past offseason, is there a chance that they'd be involved.

00:26:54
Speaker 1: They'd be better than what they are right now. Of course, they'd be better if they.

00:26:58
Speaker 3: Brought in another good starting pitcher, a starting infielder, and some other couple bullpen pieces. Absolutely, they'd be better, but they're not gonna do that. So, I mean, it sounds great to talk, well, they're never they're not going.

00:27:11
Speaker 1: To do it.

00:27:12
Speaker 6: Twenty twenty one.

00:27:12
Speaker 4: By the way, when they picked Davis Jackson, Job was picked by the Tigers third overall. Obviously Job is now going to be out for a season and a half, but he's got a chance to be a top end starter.

00:27:23
Speaker 6: Yeah, Tigers have been doing it right.

00:27:25
Speaker 3: So, I mean, Henry Davis wasn't a catcher, and then they tried to make him a catcher. He could hit when he wasn't catching ice catching, and he can't hit. It's like the turn is it, He'll change. You can't miss on one one. I'm sorry, you cannot miss on one one.

00:27:38
Speaker 4: I agree one other thing and you can definitely comment on this. We talked about it for a second the other day. We've got Yankees Red Sox again this weekend. Fox Sports had announced after last weekend that they had three million plus viewers for Baseball Night in America, highlighted of course by Red Sox. Yankees don't overlook AJS.

00:27:57
Speaker 1: SI, don't overlook by Brewer game.

00:28:00
Speaker 6: It was actually a great game.

00:28:01
Speaker 1: But it was actually a lot better of a game.

00:28:03
Speaker 2: Yes it was that.

00:28:04
Speaker 6: The other one was ten that's.

00:28:05
Speaker 3: Included in there by the way, I just want to know our ten homes that watched. I know, but I think we went to three point seven percent of the country.

00:28:13
Speaker 4: Okay, but it was the most watched regular season telecast on any network since two thousand and two. There's all kinds of good stuff, and you knows. The press releases are what they are. The team, you know, I read through, most watched since a game between those two and twenty twenty two. It was their best performance for a Saturday telecast since a June twenty eighteen game between the Cubs and the Cardinals, and that overall viewership is up sixty one percent over last year's average. So ratings are up and Yankees Red Sox still sells.

00:28:45
Speaker 3: People always ask listen, people always ask why do they only do the Red Sox and the Yankees? Because people watch, people watch. Every time they put it on, people still watch. That's why listen players complain all the time, Well, we got Friday Night Apple, we got Saturday Fox, and we got Sunday Night Baseball. Guess what if you're on a crappy team. Guess that you don't get Friday Night Apples, Saturday Night Fox, Sunday Night ESPN. Trust me, I was on the White Sox, I was on Twins. We weren't on any of that stuff. But we weren't very good. We were good, we got we stuck in on those.

00:29:15
Speaker 4: And then you have the other side where there's players, even in the playoffs, would be like, oh, we're playing the early game.

00:29:20
Speaker 6: It's like, what do you want?

00:29:20
Speaker 1: You want to Brewers, Rockies, guess that you're getting. You're getting the one PM game. I'm sorry you are. I'm sorry you are. You're getting the one. You're getting the early You're getting the early slot.

00:29:32
Speaker 4: That is a big whaf for me too. You play when you play. But also, this is just how money works.

00:29:38
Speaker 6: It'd be like complaining about anything else in life.

00:29:40
Speaker 3: Like, there's about seven teams probably in MLB that that outrate. It's Bats, Yankees, Red Sox, Dodgers, Cubs, Cardinals, Phillies. Phillies are good and then Giants when they're good you can throw them in. So there's eight right there that outrate every pretty much everybody across the board. Sorry, that's just the way it works. That's why when you turn on Sunday Night Baseball, Fox, Saturday, Apple, they try to get those teams.

00:30:09
Speaker 1: But see then you look at Toronto. Toronto's never on those.

00:30:12
Speaker 6: That's a different story because they don't you don't get half.

00:30:14
Speaker 1: The ratings because they're they're in Canada.

00:30:16
Speaker 6: So that's why you never see them on that stuff. But that's different.