"Pee-Wee's Big Adventure" (1985) vs. "UHF" (1989): Part 2
This week Jason and Dee are back for the epic conclusion of their showdown between two of the quirkiest comedies of the 1980s — Pee-Wee’s Big Adventure (1985) vs. UHF (1989)! In part two, the guys dive deep into the cast of UHF, uncover fascinating tidbits and behind-the-scenes trivia from both cult classics, and reminisce about the impact these offbeat films had on pop culture. Finally, Jason and Dee render their final judgment: which zany movie truly stands tall as the king of weird 80s comedy?
2025-10-07
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<v Speaker 1>Ladies and gentlemen. <v Speaker 2>Welcome to the comedic clash of the century, weird Owl's <v Speaker 2>UHF versus Peewee's big adventure in this corner, standing a <v Speaker 2>surprising six feet tall the Sultan of Satire, the master <v Speaker 2>of mirth, the Ace of the accordion, weird Al Yankovic. <v Speaker 2>Will his polka powered pile driver punches be enough to <v Speaker 2>tear Peewee's playhouse down? The word for today, Ladies and Gentlemen. <v Speaker 3>Is painted side. Next up, lesbian Nazi hookers abducted by <v Speaker 3>UFOs and forced into weight loss programs. <v Speaker 1>But first, look what I got for you here? <v Speaker 3>To be a tweaky weener sandwich your favorite. <v Speaker 1>You have a cup of milk for me to dip <v Speaker 1>it in. <v Speaker 3>Did you know he had to eat seven of those <v Speaker 3>to finish that dead take? <v Speaker 1>Have you tried it? No? Oh man, I thought about <v Speaker 1>bringing some today. I thought about getting some twinkies, some <v Speaker 1>cheese with and some oscar Myer wieners and rows. I'd <v Speaker 1>try it. I'd try it. Yeah, not dipped. Welcome back, everybody. <v Speaker 1>We are here for part two of our comparison of <v Speaker 1>weird Al Yankovic's u HF and Pee Wee Herman's Pee <v Speaker 1>Wee's Big Adventure. We are jumping back into casting. We <v Speaker 1>covered on our first part the how these shows came <v Speaker 1>to be and the casting for Pee Wee's Big Adventure. <v Speaker 1>Now we're going to jump into casting for u h F. <v Speaker 3>Fine Ryan, Now UHF. We already talked about how Jay Levy, <v Speaker 3>who was weird Al's best friend manager manager, directs this movie. <v Speaker 3>Of course it stars weird Al. <v Speaker 1>Jay Levy does have a part in this movie. Yes, <v Speaker 1>he does, kind of a prominent part, a very memorable part, <v Speaker 1>for sure. <v Speaker 3>He plays Gandhi two Gandhi Too. He's here to kick button, <v Speaker 3>eat a steak. <v Speaker 1>I mean he does a pretty good Hindu guru for <v Speaker 1>a you know, short Jewish guy. <v Speaker 3>Really, you know, hey, one of the tidbits on Gandhi Too. Yes, <v Speaker 3>they rented a Ferrari, which you and I stood in <v Speaker 3>that alley we did, And they rented that ferrari and <v Speaker 3>Gandhi's beating the crap out of some guy and he <v Speaker 3>slams his head down in the ferrari. It actually made <v Speaker 3>a dent in the Ferrari. And they only have a <v Speaker 3>small budget. <v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's a small budget movie, and they. <v Speaker 3>Were able to kind of pop out that dent on <v Speaker 3>the Ferrari. <v Speaker 1>Wow. Okay, so let's talk about the cast. Okay. <v Speaker 3>So you have mister weird Al Yankovic as George Newman. <v Speaker 1>Okay, how's this for our new Friday night lineup? Eight <v Speaker 1>o'clock Druids on Parade, then the Volcano Worshippers. <v Speaker 3>Hour, followed by Underwater Bengo for teams and. <v Speaker 1>Fun with Dirt. George Newman. By the way, George Newman <v Speaker 1>gets his last name from Weird Owl's Love of the <v Speaker 1>Mad magazine franchise, whose key character is Alfred E Newman. <v Speaker 3>Alfred you Newman? <v Speaker 1>That's correct. <v Speaker 3>Then you have David bo David Bowie. <v Speaker 1>No Bo Bo Bowe, who plays Bob. How could you <v Speaker 1>do this to me? I knew this was gonna happen. <v Speaker 1>You're right, Bob, I'm sorry. <v Speaker 4>What can I say? <v Speaker 1>I'm a miserable, worthless sonk of slime here. I want <v Speaker 1>you to take this crowbarn. <v Speaker 4>Just bash my head right in. Go ahead, really, please <v Speaker 4>bash it right in. George, you know I couldn't do that. <v Speaker 1>You still want me five bucks? Bob Okay, who also <v Speaker 1>plays the clown. <v Speaker 3>You know he got his lip split when he smacked <v Speaker 3>him in the face with that pan. <v Speaker 1>The there are two injuries that occur in one injury <v Speaker 1>that occurs in each of these movies. The first one <v Speaker 1>that you have just alluded to is weird. I was <v Speaker 1>supposed to stop short with the frying pan and it <v Speaker 1>didn't and split open David Bow's lip. And so the <v Speaker 1>take you get when he comes back up and he's <v Speaker 1>shaking his head is genuine. He actually got hit. The <v Speaker 1>only reason you don't see his lip bleeding is because <v Speaker 1>of the clown makeup he's wearing. That's right. I got <v Speaker 1>another clown story coming up on a little bit later <v Speaker 1>when we get a further down casting. And then in <v Speaker 1>Peewee's Big Adventure, when he's doing the dance in the <v Speaker 1>barroom with the big old stiletto shoes and he hits <v Speaker 1>his head, he really hit his head. Genuine reaction there <v Speaker 1>as well. <v Speaker 3>Paul Rubbins says, he knocked the crap out of that <v Speaker 3>bar or whatever it was. Yeah, and that's the take <v Speaker 3>they used. <v Speaker 1>YEA. By the way, David. <v Speaker 3>Bow, he's done eight billion commercials. <v Speaker 1>You see. You saw his face a whole lot back <v Speaker 1>in the eighties, that's for sure. I remember seeing him in. <v Speaker 3>Stuff and a bunch of stuff, but never really amounted <v Speaker 3>too much. <v Speaker 1>Not a star, he's he's a guy who does a <v Speaker 1>lot of advertisements. But perfect for this part. <v Speaker 3>You know who they wanted to play that part. They <v Speaker 3>offered the role too, right before his fortunes changed. Tell <v Speaker 3>me Jerry Seinfeld. <v Speaker 1>Oh, that's right, he was offered the part. Is weird <v Speaker 1>Al's best friend? Yeah, And so that would have been <v Speaker 1>an interesting connection, of course, because Jerry Seinfeld and Michael <v Speaker 1>Richards go on to start together in Seinfeld. <v Speaker 3>You have Jerry and Kramer who could have been in Uajeff. <v Speaker 1>Wow, that's crazy. So you might as well just talk <v Speaker 1>about Michael Richards. Why we got him right there? <v Speaker 3>He plays Stanley Spadowski. <v Speaker 1>George. You know, I was wondering, like if you were <v Speaker 1>traveling through outer space. I mean, I you go on <v Speaker 1>real fast, like the speed of light, you know, and <v Speaker 1>all of a sudden you start screaming up. You think <v Speaker 1>that your brain would blow up. Brilliant. He stole the movie, right. <v Speaker 3>You said that, and I thought he did steal the movie. <v Speaker 1>He absolutely stole the movie. And so they had seen <v Speaker 1>him perform his stand up and were very interested in <v Speaker 1>having him be this part. And just as a personal story, <v Speaker 1>I will tell you this. You know, I was a <v Speaker 1>theater major in college and when we would do our <v Speaker 1>auditions for like you auditioned, your first audition was for <v Speaker 1>all of the shows that they were doing that season, <v Speaker 1>right sure, and you would do two monologues, one serious <v Speaker 1>and one usually comedic, and then you had to sing <v Speaker 1>a song. The songs were pointless for guys like me <v Speaker 1>because I knew I wasn't going to be in a <v Speaker 1>musical right and so I had this serious bit, which <v Speaker 1>was really moving, serious bit. I didn't have anything funny. <v Speaker 1>And I happened to catch UHF and I see Michael <v Speaker 1>Richards saying this is my new mop and I see <v Speaker 1>him and you know, and it finishes like he goes <v Speaker 1>through this and he gets so intense and he's like, <v Speaker 1>these floors are dirty as hell. I'm not gonna take <v Speaker 1>it anymore. Yeah, And I'm like I sat there with <v Speaker 1>with EHS and I wrote down everything, did that as <v Speaker 1>my monologue, Like I went from siious and I went, <v Speaker 1>you know, you have this moment of transition. I went <v Speaker 1>like this, and then it went into it. I got <v Speaker 1>called back to every single show, including the musicals. Can't <v Speaker 1>sing a lick got called back to the musicals because <v Speaker 1>and every single director was like, I loved I loved <v Speaker 1>the UHF bit. I loved watching you transition from whatever. <v Speaker 1>I don't even remember what the serious piece was that <v Speaker 1>I did, but that switch. But I was watching this <v Speaker 1>with Brock earlier today and I was like, listen to <v Speaker 1>this bit. I literally started to tear up. It was <v Speaker 1>so it was just like it just brings back memories. <v Speaker 1>That's fun, man, I love it. <v Speaker 3>Okay, you also have fran Dresser. <v Speaker 1>Hi, I'm George Newman. I'm the new station manager. <v Speaker 4>Cool. <v Speaker 5>You know when I first took this job, they told <v Speaker 5>me that this position was only temporary and that eventually, <v Speaker 5>when the time was right, I would be moved up <v Speaker 5>to news, which is really my forte. <v Speaker 4>You know how long I've been working here? <v Speaker 5>Oh, y is it's kind of hard to get promoted <v Speaker 5>when every other week you have a new boss. <v Speaker 4>This job really sucks. <v Speaker 1>And this is my friend Bob. Hi, nice to meet you. <v Speaker 1>The nanny. <v Speaker 3>The nanny she plays Pamela Finkelstein. Hello, Pamela Finkelstein. <v Speaker 1>Yes. <v Speaker 3>She and Victoria Jackson are both convinced that they both <v Speaker 3>got the job because they had nasally annoying voices. <v Speaker 1>So to Victoria Jackson, she plays Terry, yes, George's girlfriend <v Speaker 1>and then not girlfriend. She looks really cute in this. <v Speaker 1>I had a total crush on Victoria Jackson when I <v Speaker 1>was a kid man. I just thought she was pretty <v Speaker 1>and sweet and just seemed like a nice girl next door. <v Speaker 1>Kind of bubbly, kind of dumb, yeah, seemingly. And I <v Speaker 1>have read the other people who auditioned for this. Jennifer <v Speaker 1>Tilly who too hot, she has been hot for forty <v Speaker 1>five years. Too hot, yes, and then Ellen de Generes, <v Speaker 1>she's never been in her life, she's been mildly not <v Speaker 1>even kind of very successful. But yeah, brilliant, brilliant comedian, <v Speaker 1>brilliant actress. Absolutely yeah, not okay. <v Speaker 3>I want to talk about Kevin McCarthy, who plays R. J. <v Speaker 1>Fletcher. You shouldn't have happy Father's Day, Dad? What is it. <v Speaker 4>Our roles? <v Speaker 1>Yeah? So Kevin McCarthy. Every time I think of him, <v Speaker 1>I think of Interspace, which is another movie that we <v Speaker 1>have to cover, right, and it's he plays in that <v Speaker 1>the same type of character. But they picked him because <v Speaker 1>he was in that same kind of stage at his <v Speaker 1>career as Leslie Nielsen was when they made the movie <v Speaker 1>Airplane and they were like, we want some guy who's <v Speaker 1>done all this serious stuff, who's you know, reaching his <v Speaker 1>gray days, and we want him to be our straight villain. <v Speaker 1>Back in the fifties, he was in the original Invasion <v Speaker 1>of the Body Snatchers was also he was in when <v Speaker 1>they remade it with Donald Sutherland as well. He was <v Speaker 1>a part of that as well. And as I said, <v Speaker 1>I've seen an interspace and he was also hit a <v Speaker 1>Twilight Zone episode where he played a history professor who <v Speaker 1>never aged, so kind of a cool idea, you know. <v Speaker 3>Yeah, I do know that as they were filming UHF <v Speaker 3>and the scenes where he had to be particularly nasty, <v Speaker 3>he would be like and then they would say cut <v Speaker 3>and then he would us step laughing. <v Speaker 1>Yeah, like he said, they said, he laughed the entire time. <v Speaker 1>They feel mistassic. Oh and we know we also talked <v Speaker 1>about him. He was in the Howling. That's right, he <v Speaker 1>was Howling. I forgot all about that. Wow. <v Speaker 3>Yeah, go back to season one where we talked Howling <v Speaker 3>versus American Werewolf in London. <v Speaker 1>Great episode. Wow. <v Speaker 3>Okay, I want to talk about Anthony Gary. Okay, he <v Speaker 3>plays Filo. Yeah, do you recognize him? I know you <v Speaker 3>do because we talked about it. <v Speaker 1>But well, I told you I don't know where in <v Speaker 1>my life, but because it's been years ago, but I <v Speaker 1>saw some sort of behind the scenes or making of <v Speaker 1>or something like that where they're interviewing them later on <v Speaker 1>in life, and I see him and I'm like, who <v Speaker 1>was he in this? Because he's this good looking. I'm like, <v Speaker 1>I recognize it. He looks like a soap opera guy. <v Speaker 1>And then sure enough, a little bit later, he's like, <v Speaker 1>I did all this stuff on General Hospital and there <v Speaker 1>this was this opportunity. So do you know who they <v Speaker 1>wrote this character for? Who's that? Joel Hotchon? He had <v Speaker 1>he had a stand up routine where he would have <v Speaker 1>these crazy inventions. Was kind of a bad scientist guy, <v Speaker 1>but he was just starting to do Mystery Science Theory <v Speaker 1>three thousand and he's like, sorry, guys, I'm not gonna <v Speaker 1>do this wow. And so that gave what's his name, <v Speaker 1>Gary Anthony, Gary Anthony, Gary, the opportunity to go, hey, <v Speaker 1>I love weird al and I would love to do <v Speaker 1>this character that is not at all like the anthem <v Speaker 1>soap opera actor that I play every day on General Hospital. <v Speaker 3>Okay, so I have never watched soap operas in my life. <v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, I don't believe you. <v Speaker 3>But but I have heard of Luke and Laura. Yeah, <v Speaker 3>he played Luke Luke eighties heart Throb, General Hospital TV star. <v Speaker 1>Yeah, and now he's the mad Science For me, it's <v Speaker 1>Bow and Hope. Those the days of our lives. Guy, <v Speaker 1>I'm not kidding. Like when I was in high school, <v Speaker 1>Like I'd never watched it as a young person, but <v Speaker 1>like in high school, I would go pick up my <v Speaker 1>friend at his house and be like, hold on, I've <v Speaker 1>got it the v He would record the VHS and <v Speaker 1>like as we're eating breakfa're eating bowls of cereal, about <v Speaker 1>to go to school, We're watching the yesterday's days of <v Speaker 1>our life. My gosh, wow, what can I say? It <v Speaker 1>was exciting. <v Speaker 3>Do you know who they wanted to play Pilo Crispin Glover. <v Speaker 1>Oh that would have been interesting. Yeah, okay, I. <v Speaker 3>See him as a kookie mad scientist. Yeah you know why. <v Speaker 3>He didn't play that part. So they offered it to <v Speaker 3>Crispin Glover. He came back to them and said, I've <v Speaker 3>read the script and I want to play the used <v Speaker 3>car salesman. <v Speaker 1>And nothing else. Okay, all right, Crispin, thank you. We'll <v Speaker 1>call you crazy. Don't call us, We'll call you. Where <v Speaker 1>do you get so many cars? <v Speaker 3>If you don't come down to buy a car, I'm <v Speaker 3>gonna club this baby Seal. <v Speaker 1>Crispin Glover too weird. That's great. <v Speaker 3>I also want to point out Billy Bartie. <v Speaker 1>He is the little person, is the little cameraman down <v Speaker 1>here at Tuts. <v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, and uh he's the one that John Parragon <v Speaker 3>trips and falls face face plants. <v Speaker 1>Yeah, outside of city Hall, just revenge at the end <v Speaker 1>of the movie. It's so funny. Yes, brilliant part. <v Speaker 3>He was in a movie that I loved as a <v Speaker 3>kid called foul Play. I was on a film by <v Speaker 3>podcast talking about foul Play with Chevy Chase and Goldie Hawn, <v Speaker 3>like their first movie. <v Speaker 1>I feel like he might have been kind of a <v Speaker 1>major player in Under the Rainbow as he was. Yeah, okay, <v Speaker 1>Under the Rainbow Chevy Chase and Carrie Fisher in her <v Speaker 1>bra Yausler. <v Speaker 3>All right, we also have in this movie Geddy want <v Speaker 3>to nobby Hey cooney. <v Speaker 4>Hoy you dog? <v Speaker 5>It was class today. <v Speaker 4>Huh? This stupid. <v Speaker 1>Geddy wanted to nobby. What's happened in hot stuff? There's <v Speaker 1>a weird Chinese guy in what do you mentioning about? <v Speaker 1>I got to sleep under a guy named after a <v Speaker 1>duck stork. <v Speaker 3>When are we gonna talk about sixteen candles? I guess <v Speaker 3>nicklick long dug dung. <v Speaker 1>Yes, want a Toby man gotta love it? <v Speaker 3>Yeah, he plays Cooney and his big line is there's a. <v Speaker 1>Stupid and he is the wheel of fish guy. He <v Speaker 1>is the will of fish guy. Which I've got a <v Speaker 1>great tidbit on that when we get to that tidbits part. Okay, yes, <v Speaker 1>very good, all right. You also have Trinidad Silva. <v Speaker 4>Hey Man's and welcome to ra Wild Kingdom, coming to you. <v Speaker 4>Lie from my apartment about that. <v Speaker 1>Okay, this is this is our tragedy. This is where <v Speaker 1>the fun and happy takes a sad turn. So you <v Speaker 1>will remember Trinidad Silva because he was Raoul's Wild Kingdom, right. <v Speaker 1>He's he has got all of the animals. He sticks <v Speaker 1>the licks, the turtle throws it so to stick on <v Speaker 1>the ceiling. And of course he's teaching the poodles how <v Speaker 1>to fly today sometimes they don't get it on the <v Speaker 1>first one. Yeah, I was watching this with Rock to <v Speaker 1>day and Brock busted out laughing at that seat of like, <v Speaker 1>you can't not laugh at that brilliant party he does <v Speaker 1>the Badgers. We don't need no stinking Badgers. Yeah, brilliantly performed. <v Speaker 1>He had been in a few things like his kind <v Speaker 1>of gang members on like Hill Street Blues and some <v Speaker 1>other stuff like this, And they started filming this in <v Speaker 1>mid July July twenty eighth. I Believety on July thirty first, <v Speaker 1>July thirty one is what I have yet. Okay, So <v Speaker 1>July thirty first, he and his family, wife and son <v Speaker 1>are leaving church and a drunk driver runs a red light. <v Speaker 1>Neither he nor his son are buckled. They're both thrown <v Speaker 1>from the vehicle. His son has minor injuries, wife survives. <v Speaker 1>He was thrown a hundred feet and killed on impact, <v Speaker 1>which is tragic. I had no idea. I just I <v Speaker 1>literally thought to myself when I would watch this movie, <v Speaker 1>I'm like, why didn't they Why didn't they bring him back? <v Speaker 3>Like he should have been involved, should have been at <v Speaker 3>the end. <v Speaker 1>He was. He was supposed to be a major part <v Speaker 1>of the telethon that they were doing, and they considered, <v Speaker 1>They're like, should we recast this and film his scenes <v Speaker 1>over again? And they just couldn't bring themselves to do <v Speaker 1>it right, and so they just said, let's leave it <v Speaker 1>as it is and just not have his part, just <v Speaker 1>not do it. Dedicated the movie to him, and weird, <v Speaker 1>how's never been an alcohol drinker. He's a tee, told her, <v Speaker 1>told her his whole life vegetarian too. Yeah, but he <v Speaker 1>had been approached to do like a multi million dollar <v Speaker 1>beer commercial campaign and he turned it down in part <v Speaker 1>because of his own beliefs, but also in major part <v Speaker 1>because he had lost this guy that very beginning of <v Speaker 1>production due to drunk driving. So, wow, tragic story, you know, <v Speaker 1>a great legacy, you know that that he would have <v Speaker 1>this such a memorable, wonderful part in his final film. Yes, okay, I. <v Speaker 3>Want to bring up Vance Koenig Junior. <v Speaker 1>Okay, I sent you a video today. Did you look <v Speaker 1>at it today? Okay? So you just you just said <v Speaker 1>Vance Conig Junior. Yes, So Vance Koenig Senior went by <v Speaker 1>a nickname called Pinto. He was Pinto Covid. Okay, yeah, Covid, Covid, right, Colvic. <v Speaker 1>But he's basically your last name. Close your last name <v Speaker 1>with a G instead of an N, right, and so <v Speaker 1>Pinto Colvig was the voice for the original Goofy, What <v Speaker 1>Original Goofy. He was the voice for Bluto in Popeye Wow. <v Speaker 1>And he was the original voice for Bozo the Clown Wow, <v Speaker 1>now Bozo the Clown. Bozo the Clown started off as <v Speaker 1>just a read along record that went along with a book, <v Speaker 1>and it didn't become a TV thing until later. One <v Speaker 1>of the guys who would go and do like the <v Speaker 1>personal appearances when they were promoting their read along book <v Speaker 1>stuff bought the rights to it, and ultimately he franchised <v Speaker 1>it out to local TV studios who would have their <v Speaker 1>own Bozo the Clown. The very first Bozo the Clown <v Speaker 1>that was on TV that got this franchise was Vance Colvig, junior, <v Speaker 1>son of the original Bozo. He was the first one <v Speaker 1>to play Bozo on TV. Really, yes, and he's in <v Speaker 1>the Hobo. He is playing the Hobo and you and you. <v Speaker 1>If you grew up in the eighties, you almost certainly <v Speaker 1>remember the just a Jiggielow video with David Lee Roth. <v Speaker 1>He is a major He is a major part. He's <v Speaker 1>the funny little looks like a woman part in Uh, <v Speaker 1>he's dressed up as a woman for this, but he's <v Speaker 1>done a bunch of these little character roles and stuff <v Speaker 1>like this. <v Speaker 3>Man, you turned over some rocks right there. <v Speaker 1>That's great. You know who auditioned for that part and <v Speaker 1>got turned down. I don't know if he auditioned or <v Speaker 1>if he just said I want to do it. It <v Speaker 1>was Ginger Baker from Cream, the drummer for Cream. Yeah, <v Speaker 1>play that part. Yeah, amazing. <v Speaker 3>Okay, we already mentioned. But John Peregon plays Junior Fletcher, right, <v Speaker 3>r J Fletcher Junior right? <v Speaker 4>Oh did I do that? Ooops? <v Speaker 3>And John Peregon was like great friends with Paul Rubins, <v Speaker 3>one of the groundlings, Yeah, and was really like one <v Speaker 3>of the leaders of that group. <v Speaker 1>Absolutely. <v Speaker 3>Yeah, he played the genie yeah, like a hed Right. <v Speaker 1>One more person I want to bring up to you. <v Speaker 3>Belinda Bauer plays one of the mud wrestlers in one <v Speaker 3>of the little shorts that they show for you, the. <v Speaker 1>One where they were wrestling with Okay, wow, that's okay, <v Speaker 1>dive right there. Okay, that's that is a one and <v Speaker 1>a half second clip at best, right. <v Speaker 3>Right, So one of the mud wrestlers, Belinda Bauer is <v Speaker 3>her name, Okay, Okay, she's a model because she's babe. <v Speaker 3>You know that's not She goes on to become a <v Speaker 3>psychologist and is working like a practicing psychologist in La <v Speaker 3>right now. Fantastic mud wrestling to psychology. <v Speaker 1>That is fantastic. <v Speaker 3>There you go, all right, one last thing on casting <v Speaker 3>before we transition out here. There was a cameo that <v Speaker 3>was scheduled to be in UHF okay of course where <v Speaker 3>Al plays Rambo, which we covered earlier this season. <v Speaker 1>I liked it better than I liked the Rambo movie. Honestly, <v Speaker 1>he's blowing up stuff raw ra. <v Speaker 3>Yeah, so that's just the Loan was posed to have <v Speaker 3>a cameo as the helicopter pilot booth worker. <v Speaker 1>Oh, that would have been brilliant. <v Speaker 3>Where Now and Sly had a common friend and Sly <v Speaker 3>agreed to be in it, but just couldn't quite make <v Speaker 3>it happen. <v Speaker 1>Oh, it's too bad. That would have been a lot <v Speaker 1>of fun. Okay, So I got one more casting thing. <v Speaker 1>This is this is a this is a deep cut, <v Speaker 1>and this is me personal personally. So the fish lady, <v Speaker 1>you know this play in the game show. We have <v Speaker 1>the Wheel of Fish right right, Yeah, and she's the <v Speaker 1>one that she gets the red Snapper and he's like, <v Speaker 1>are you gonna hold your red snapper or are you <v Speaker 1>going to take what's in the box? <v Speaker 2>You know? <v Speaker 1>And it opened the box and. <v Speaker 4>It's nothing box the box. <v Speaker 5>I take the box. <v Speaker 1>Yeah, so stupid. Okay, So that's Lisa Stephonic, which will <v Speaker 1>probably be meaningless unless you happen to be in the <v Speaker 1>acting world in Tulsa, which I was back in nineteen <v Speaker 1>ninety seven ninety eight. Lisa Stephonic taught school at Tulsa <v Speaker 1>Community College, which I was going to for a time. <v Speaker 1>She directed plays and I was not only her student. <v Speaker 1>I was an actor in a play that she directed. <v Speaker 1>Phyllis Weaver is the Fish Lady, the Red Snapper Lady. <v Speaker 1>That was a personal friend of How about that? Yeah <v Speaker 1>that's good. Yeah, all right, we're on to tidbits before <v Speaker 1>we hit final judgment. Let's do it. Okay, what's going <v Speaker 1>on off for? We're looking for an escaped convict, ma'am. <v Speaker 4>You're all about it on the radio, right, honey? Have <v Speaker 4>you seen this man? Better head fun boiled. <v Speaker 3>I've got some crazy tidbits for you. I can't wait <v Speaker 3>to tell you about this, all right, So the first <v Speaker 3>tidbit that I want to give to you, which absolutely <v Speaker 3>blew my mind when I first discovered this, okay because <v Speaker 3>I didn't recognize them. But at the very beginning of <v Speaker 3>Batman Returns, this is post Paul Rubens getting busted at <v Speaker 3>a X rated movie theater spanking the monkey. <v Speaker 1>Okay, at the beginning. <v Speaker 3>Of the sequel to Batman, of course, that's that's the <v Speaker 3>Tim Burton movie Burton, right, all right, right, Michael Keaton, Oh. <v Speaker 4>We're right. <v Speaker 1>He plays He's like the rich he's got he's the <v Speaker 1>rich guy with the rich wife. <v Speaker 3>Paul Rubins plays Penguin's father, Yes, and his wife is <v Speaker 3>Diane Salinger. <v Speaker 1>That's Simone. <v Speaker 3>So pee Wee and Simone are the penguin's mother and <v Speaker 3>father at the beginning of Batman return fantastic. <v Speaker 1>Yep, that's right. How about that? Right? Yes, And not <v Speaker 1>that we need to get into too Paul Rubens arrest <v Speaker 1>or anything, but pretty good recovery. I mean number one, <v Speaker 1>getting Tim to to cast you as a kind of <v Speaker 1>a key but small role in the Batman Returns, but <v Speaker 1>then also coming onto the MTV video music worts like <v Speaker 1>I remember that happening. <v Speaker 3>People lost their mind. <v Speaker 1>Everybody stood up, was applauding, like as I think about <v Speaker 1>it now, and I mean I had no idea what <v Speaker 1>it might and I still don't, but as an adult <v Speaker 1>you kind of get a better frame to empathize with <v Speaker 1>somebody who might go through something like that. And how <v Speaker 1>devastating that is. I mean, number one, you're trying to <v Speaker 1>keep your sexuality a secret from people because that was <v Speaker 1>the time that it was not okay, right, and so <v Speaker 1>that it gets a little gets a little touchy. But <v Speaker 1>to go through that, to see this kind of devastating, <v Speaker 1>I mean, because his career wasn't doing much at the <v Speaker 1>moment anyway, but have this devastating moment and then to <v Speaker 1>do the pr to go, let's have you come out <v Speaker 1>at the MTV Music Wars and you're going through this <v Speaker 1>and you can see on his face, you can see <v Speaker 1>his fear and doubt about what he's about to do. <v Speaker 1>And then you see the entire auditorium standing up, screaming, <v Speaker 1>clapping and chanting his name. It kind of made me <v Speaker 1>tear up to it. <v Speaker 3>It was like, guys are hurting any good jokes lately? <v Speaker 3>Brilliant so Funnyken fun at himself. Ladies and gentlemen, MTV <v Speaker 3>is proud to introduce someone who has been a friend <v Speaker 3>for a long time. <v Speaker 4>Thank you, thank thank you, Chap Tap, thank you very much. <v Speaker 1>Thank you That Hill. <v Speaker 4>Heard any good jokes lately? <v Speaker 3>What was that. <v Speaker 4>So funny? I forgot to laugh? <v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, tidbit for you. <v Speaker 3>The drive in at the very end where he's we <v Speaker 3>have all the people, all the characters that he's kind <v Speaker 3>of weaved in and out. The biker guy's there, you know, <v Speaker 3>Mickey's in the convict bus. Yeah, you know, Dotty's there. <v Speaker 3>That drive in is the same drive in that Sandy <v Speaker 3>and Danny are. <v Speaker 1>At in Greece exactly, and you have the same let's <v Speaker 1>all go to the lobby cartoon that plays in both scenarios. <v Speaker 1>How about that. Yeah. <v Speaker 3>One of the things that also blew my mind when <v Speaker 3>Peter's Big Adventure came out. I was twelve, so I <v Speaker 3>had not ever seen a Chiechen. <v Speaker 1>Chong movie at that point, right, Yeah, yeah, yeah. <v Speaker 3>In Chichen Chong's next movie, Night eighty, you have an <v Speaker 3>appearance of Pee Wee Herman. <v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's he's playing a hotel clerk. It's like hotel <v Speaker 1>clerk slash Pee Wee you know, is my character? Yeah, <v Speaker 1>later on that night, you see him as pee Wee <v Speaker 1>doing his stand up. <v Speaker 3>Yeah, Chiechen Junger in the crowd. They're giving him a <v Speaker 3>hard time, right, right right. One of the very early <v Speaker 3>cinematic appearances of. <v Speaker 1>Pee Wee Herman well right, So the throwback is when <v Speaker 1>he's in his movie where James Roland is p W. <v Speaker 1>Herman and Morgan Fairchild is Dottie. He again is playing <v Speaker 1>a hotel clerk. So great, great bit because he keeps <v Speaker 1>looking at the camera and then when he speaks, it's <v Speaker 1>this obvious voiceover actor Herman aging, mister Herman, mister Herman, <v Speaker 1>you have a telephone call at the front desk. Now, <v Speaker 1>I will say this, I remember watching The Blues Brothers <v Speaker 1>and seeing him as a waiter in the bo. That's <v Speaker 1>freaking pee Wee. He's still kind of the same kind <v Speaker 1>of character. I mean, he's kind of nerdy. I told <v Speaker 1>you well, I don't know if we've thought it was <v Speaker 1>nineteen eighty, I was nineteen eighty. <v Speaker 3>I don't know if we've talked about this or not, <v Speaker 3>but he is playing a hotel clerk in PW and Dottie. <v Speaker 3>You know, the James Bond version of Peewee's story, and <v Speaker 3>he's a person who's acting poorly, but you can tell <v Speaker 3>he's trying to act well and he keeps accidentally looking <v Speaker 3>at the camera but then also like trying to recover <v Speaker 3>from it. Brilliant performance and so funny. So also just <v Speaker 3>me personally, anytime I'm in church or whatever, I'm testing <v Speaker 3>a Mica A Jane mister Herman. So okay, at the <v Speaker 3>end of the movie, at the drive in Francis shows <v Speaker 3>up and you have these people who are interviewing him. <v Speaker 3>One of the people that is like the photographer, that's <v Speaker 3>Michael Barhall, the guy one of the writers for this movie. <v Speaker 3>And then Phil Hartman is playing the reporter who's actually <v Speaker 3>interviewing him. So you have the writers of the movie <v Speaker 3>making a cameo at the very end. You know, we <v Speaker 3>talked about Dottie E. G. <v Speaker 1>Daily. <v Speaker 3>Yeah, they looked at Lori Laughlin, Laura Dern, Phoebe Kate's, <v Speaker 3>Leah Thompson, and Jennifer Jason Lee as possible dotties. <v Speaker 1>Yeah, kind of a who's who of actresses. Yes, and <v Speaker 1>Elizabeth Dailey is very attractive, but that's a that's a <v Speaker 1>list of hotties right there that's probably out of reach. Yeah, <v Speaker 1>nobody would believe that they were. And maybe that's the point. <v Speaker 1>Nobody would believe even that Dotty was obsessed with we <v Speaker 1>you know, his kind of refusal of her is comedic <v Speaker 1>gold in my mind. <v Speaker 3>It's perfect twelve year old boy girl stuff. And actually <v Speaker 3>she does a brilliant job of she longs for him, <v Speaker 3>but she's also trying to keep it under wraps. And <v Speaker 3>you know, I want you to ask me. <v Speaker 1>What you know, just goofy kids stuff. She does a <v Speaker 1>great job. <v Speaker 3>And then last thing, Yep, we have got to make <v Speaker 3>a trip to San Antonio because just announced, Yeah, the <v Speaker 3>bike is at the Alamo on display. <v Speaker 1>This year twenty twenty five. There are like multiple bikes, <v Speaker 1>but yes, one of the one of the key bikes <v Speaker 1>is now on display at the Alamo. And the Alamo <v Speaker 1>also now has a basement. I don't know if they <v Speaker 1>put the bicycle in the basement or not, but they should. <v Speaker 1>I went. <v Speaker 3>I visited the Alamo a few years ago with my kids, Yes, <v Speaker 3>and I constantly kept like elbowing them saying, should I <v Speaker 3>ask them if there's a basement? <v Speaker 1>By the way, we didn't mention this, but another great <v Speaker 1>cameo part. I guess it was that was eighty five. <v Speaker 1>This may have been before she was on Saturday Night Live. <v Speaker 1>But Jan Hooks, Jan Hooks is the tour guy. Yeah, <v Speaker 1>and she ad libbed all of that, improved, all of it. <v Speaker 1>Brilliant too, che in her gum talking in her Southern accent. <v Speaker 1>It was great. He'm very proud of her. <v Speaker 3>Blanket. Hold all questions till the end. All right, So <v Speaker 3>let's hit tidbits for u. <v Speaker 1>Hf right, so commanding, so powerful, so deadly. He's Conan <v Speaker 1>the Librarian. All right. <v Speaker 3>One of the actors that has a bit part in <v Speaker 3>this movie is Emo Phillips. <v Speaker 1>Yes, I will just say this. A joke to this <v Speaker 1>day that I still use is an Emo Phillips joke <v Speaker 1>where you're talking about something and you're like and you <v Speaker 1>know and And this year they had Haley's Comet, or <v Speaker 1>as some people say, Haley's Comit the guy is weird funny, <v Speaker 1>but this I was weeping when his scene happened in <v Speaker 1>this It's funny because they will if they show this <v Speaker 1>on TV, they'll take out the part where he's teaching <v Speaker 1>the poodles how to fly, but they will not remove <v Speaker 1>the severed thumb squirting blood. All of boy, am I <v Speaker 1>red in the face. This genius? Now there was more <v Speaker 1>to it. This is this peach. This movie got a <v Speaker 1>PG thirteen Radio thirteen because of the poodles, and they <v Speaker 1>actually the conen the librarian part. That's the other part <v Speaker 1>that brought left out out. That was funny. Sorry, these <v Speaker 1>are a little bit late, but yeah, they wanted to <v Speaker 1>take those out to get I don't think it's a <v Speaker 1>PG thirteen movie at all, but I can see, you know, <v Speaker 1>maybe you don't want your five year old kid watching <v Speaker 1>somebody throw a poodle out of a three stories cut <v Speaker 1>their fingers off, right, But I guess the cutting the <v Speaker 1>finger off part, you know, Emo being the weird humor <v Speaker 1>that he is, he's it's like, can you find it? <v Speaker 1>And they actually he finds it, he gives it to him. <v Speaker 1>He's like, well, they say to keep it warm, and <v Speaker 1>he sticks it in his mouth. That's funny. That's good <v Speaker 1>humor right there. That is I'm sorry it didn't make <v Speaker 1>the cut, if you will pardon the punt. <v Speaker 3>I did see him on the weird Al behind the music, <v Speaker 3>Emo Phillips like show the camera his residual check for <v Speaker 3>UHF thirty. <v Speaker 1>Cents thirty cents he said, this is the impact it <v Speaker 1>had on my career. That's funny. Yeah, I do know <v Speaker 1>that they used real fish on the wheel of Fish. <v Speaker 1>Oh yeah. Not only did they use real fish, they <v Speaker 1>bought them at the fish market that morning. I can't <v Speaker 1>remember what the fish market is there in Tulsa, but <v Speaker 1>they went to the fish market in Tulsa, bought it <v Speaker 1>early that morning, started putting the wheel together because you <v Speaker 1>got to balance the fish so that the wheel actually spins. Yeah, <v Speaker 1>they didn't start shooting until four thirty in the afternoon. <v Speaker 1>And they were shooting in July and August in Tulsa, Oklahoma, <v Speaker 1>with one hundred people in the room. It was hi man, <v Speaker 1>hot and dead fish not refrigerated. That's right, it was ripe. <v Speaker 1>That's awesome. Okay. <v Speaker 3>One other tidbit that I got for you on uhf <v Speaker 3>yes in the middle of the movie. <v Speaker 1>Maybe the one of the. <v Speaker 3>Bright parts of the movie is you have the Beverly. <v Speaker 1>Hillbillies, dire Straits, dire Straits, ready for Nothing, parody. <v Speaker 4>The Little Story about You, O song, Fat Bull mountainea <v Speaker 4>they say, give this. <v Speaker 1>One day he was shooting. Man, it looks just like <v Speaker 1>the video. <v Speaker 3>Brilliant And if you remember Mark Knopfler plays the guitar <v Speaker 3>on that, of. <v Speaker 1>Course, because who else is going to make it sound <v Speaker 1>as the way as good as it did. <v Speaker 3>Where I went to him and said, hey, I want <v Speaker 3>to parody money for nothing, and Mark Knopfler said, well, <v Speaker 3>only if I get to play the. <v Speaker 1>Guitar and weird. <v Speaker 3>I was like, hey, heck, yeah, duh, all right, I <v Speaker 3>got a tidbit for you. Francis fort Coppola visited the <v Speaker 3>set of UHF. <v Speaker 1>Sure makes sense. <v Speaker 3>He visited because he was considering shooting The Godfather Part <v Speaker 3>three in Tulsa. <v Speaker 1>Oh wow, oh okay, just and went to go see <v Speaker 1>his old friend Gray Frederickson or whatever his name is, right, It. <v Speaker 3>Just it baffles me that The Godfather Apocalypse Now and <v Speaker 3>UHF have similar bloodlines. <v Speaker 1>It's crazy, right, It is crazy the reception for both <v Speaker 1>of these. <v Speaker 3>Now we talked about how Pee Wee's big adventure was <v Speaker 3>a sleeper hit cost six or seven million bucks, makes <v Speaker 3>forty million bucks and out the gate it blows the <v Speaker 3>doors off, mainly because like the studio didn't believe in it, <v Speaker 3>and they said, look, okay, we're going to open this <v Speaker 3>in just a few theaters. You guys, go promote it, <v Speaker 3>however you want to promote it, and we'll see what happens. <v Speaker 1>Yeah. <v Speaker 3>So Pee Wee goes on MTV, and MTV says, yeah, <v Speaker 3>let's do a live premiere at the. <v Speaker 1>Movie marketing genius on this movie really is Yeah. <v Speaker 3>So they're the mtvv jays, Yes, and they're like, hey, <v Speaker 3>we're here with Pee Wee Herman and it's this red <v Speaker 3>carpet event and then bam, Eddie Murphy shows up, who <v Speaker 3>may have been the most famous person in the world <v Speaker 3>at that moment. Yeah, all of a sudden, it has <v Speaker 3>all this momentum. <v Speaker 1>He's wearing a crown I believe, like King Richard crown <v Speaker 1>was from Camelot yea Arthur's crown, and Pee said he <v Speaker 1>kept that for years afterwards until they sent him a <v Speaker 1>letter saying we're going to sue you, and then he <v Speaker 1>was like back yeah. <v Speaker 3>So initially this opened the same weekend as European Vacation. <v Speaker 3>It didn't get broad released until a few weeks after, <v Speaker 3>so that's its competition was a little more like Real <v Speaker 3>Genius and Weird Science. But Pee Wee Mania was a <v Speaker 3>real thing in the mid eighties. Absolutely absolutely, Now, let's <v Speaker 3>talk about the reception for UHF. When Oriyan first screamed this, <v Speaker 3>it was one of the highest rated screenings they'd ever had. <v Speaker 3>People loved this, they thought it was hilarious, it's so funny. <v Speaker 3>But when they dropped it, it was buried by Indiana <v Speaker 3>Jones and a whole lot. <v Speaker 1>List of those incredible movies from the summer of nineteen <v Speaker 1>eighty nine, What Can You Do, Batman, Batman, Batman, just Batman. <v Speaker 3>Alone, the Summer of the bat Tim Burton buried uhfah which, <v Speaker 3>by the way, we don't get Batman in its current <v Speaker 3>form without the success Pee was Big Adventure. <v Speaker 1>It's crazy. Yep. Yeah, all right, we're on the final judgment. <v Speaker 1>D Okay, let's do it. Okay, you want me to <v Speaker 1>go first. <v Speaker 3>Let me go first, because I know, I think you <v Speaker 3>know where I stand. Yours is the one that's the <v Speaker 3>most in question, I think, Okay, sure, So I love <v Speaker 3>both of these movies. I have a connection with UHF <v Speaker 3>because it was filmed when I was a teenager in <v Speaker 3>my hometown. I remember when they were filming it. I've <v Speaker 3>been to these places many many times, and you and <v Speaker 3>I went there and had a great time. <v Speaker 1>The other day. By the way. I had this question <v Speaker 1>when you were growing up, did you see the billboard <v Speaker 1>that SAIDs bachel A City on it? Because they left <v Speaker 1>it up for years. It was like, what what is that? Yeah? <v Speaker 3>Yeah, billboard intels and they left it up for a <v Speaker 3>long time. Yeah, Okay, I enjoy UHF. But I want <v Speaker 3>to be clear, pee Wee's Big Adventure perfectly executed what <v Speaker 3>they were trying to do. It's clever, it's funny, it's ridiculous, <v Speaker 3>and for that moment in time, it is the better movie. <v Speaker 3>It was a nuclear bomb at the end of the <v Speaker 3>summer in nineteen eighty five. I think it's by far <v Speaker 3>the better of the two movies. <v Speaker 1>Okay, So, as you all know, I didn't see this <v Speaker 1>movie until this week, the first time I saw Pee <v Speaker 1>Wee's Big Adventure. Uhef. We didn't talk about this, but <v Speaker 1>I saw it in this same theater that I saw <v Speaker 1>Batman in and that I also saw Vacation, Risky Business <v Speaker 1>and Trading Places in when I was seven years old. Yes, <v Speaker 1>I was in California in eighty nine when these movies <v Speaker 1>came out and watched them both and absolutely loved them both. <v Speaker 1>In nineteen eighty nine and so there's a significant amount <v Speaker 1>of nostalgia for me for UHF. And so I really <v Speaker 1>never had a huge desire to watch pee Wee's Big Adventure. <v Speaker 1>I laughed out loud when I watch pee Wee at <v Speaker 1>the Big Top, Big Top Peewee. And so I don't <v Speaker 1>know why I didn't ever really want to go watch <v Speaker 1>Peeb's Big Adventure, but I just never did. And so <v Speaker 1>I watched this week, and I genuinely I laughed out <v Speaker 1>loud multiple times, and I kept thinking to myself as <v Speaker 1>I was watching, I'm like, gosh, is this is this <v Speaker 1>better than UHF? Right? And I start I'm like that <v Speaker 1>chuckling quite a bit on this right now. UHF. I've <v Speaker 1>seen a bunch of times. I watched it again today. <v Speaker 1>I was weeping with laughter when I watched UHF. Wow, <v Speaker 1>I mean these are I mean it's been it's probably <v Speaker 1>been a few years since I've seen it, but I <v Speaker 1>still just it's so funny, it's so dumb and so wonderful. <v Speaker 1>And so maybe it is a nostalgia factor. I don't know, <v Speaker 1>But even as an adult, I mean, my gosh, Raoul's <v Speaker 1>Wild Kingdom, I was I was dying. I was dying. <v Speaker 1>So I will fully admit pee Wee is good. It's <v Speaker 1>even real good. It is not the greatness of uhf <v Speaker 1>uhf is in my mind a landslide winner against pee <v Speaker 1>Wee's big really landslide landslide that maybe. <v Speaker 3>Your first time you have taken a landslide and I've <v Speaker 3>taken a landslide and we're opposing. <v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, for the record, about ten years. <v Speaker 3>Ago, maybe maybe fifteen years ago, I was taking my <v Speaker 3>children somewhere and I had your children in the car <v Speaker 3>with me, and it was back in the days when <v Speaker 3>you had a little drop down TV screen and I <v Speaker 3>put in Peebe's Big Adventure and your daughter, your oldest daughter, <v Speaker 3>Blathe was cracking up and did not want to get <v Speaker 3>out of the car when we stopped. <v Speaker 1>She would have been fifteen years ago, she had been <v Speaker 1>about seven. Yeah, yeah, it sounds about right. Yeah, there <v Speaker 1>you go. Yeah, she's about to go to law school. <v Speaker 1>Isn't that weird? It's crazy? You're welcome. Yeah, she got <v Speaker 1>to see the end. I wonder now, and she may <v Speaker 1>have never seen the end of Peeb's Big Adventure. And <v Speaker 1>it gets better as a gutter and better. Yep. So <v Speaker 1>all right, people, we want to hear from you. What <v Speaker 1>did you think? <v Speaker 4>How do we do? <v Speaker 1>Yeah? You tell us? Am I right? Is Jason Wright. <v Speaker 1>I think this is a wonderful matchup and a great <v Speaker 1>double feature to watch with your kids. You can watch <v Speaker 1>these movies. We really can't with it with the kids <v Speaker 1>of any age, assuming they're not going to be put <v Speaker 1>off by a man being split in half or somebody's <v Speaker 1>dumping cut off. <v Speaker 3>It is. <v Speaker 1>It is great family fun. <v Speaker 3>You know one other thing I wanted to mention so <v Speaker 3>you talked about there there are just a couple of <v Speaker 3>minorly offensive parts of UHF maybe for young children. My <v Speaker 3>daughter told me, My daughter Ava told me that her <v Speaker 3>boyfriend was scared of Pee Wee's Big Adventure because when <v Speaker 3>Large Marge goes and he was like as a kid, <v Speaker 3>he was like, oh my gosh, that's scared of crap <v Speaker 3>out of me. <v Speaker 1>Oh last tidbit, she did not blink the entire time <v Speaker 1>she filmed that scene. That's all right, yep, good times. <v Speaker 1>All right, guys, thanks so much. Don't forget to check <v Speaker 1>out our Patreon page. You go to patreon dot com <v Speaker 1>slash Shirly Podcast. You get to listen to all of <v Speaker 1>our super secret episodes where we talk about one hit <v Speaker 1>Wonders and other novelty songs. You can join for free <v Speaker 1>and check out the episodes for as little as five <v Speaker 1>bucks a month, so go check those out. 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