In Case You Missed It: #191 - Famous Songs With Misunderstood Meanings + What They Were Actually Written About

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Speaker 1: Welcome to episode Famous Songs with Misunderstood Meanings And at my house to do the podcast today, and I feel like it's a Sunday and you really wouldn't be working. But because I have a pool, I'm here and you could use the kids could use the pool. Yeah, it worked out wonderfully. It worked out great. Actually, so you be you don't buy about twenty minutes, yes, because it's it's becoming a thing now to leave the house at the same time. If I want to be somewhere on time, we've got to separate. Oh so you can't get out on time with all four of the we tried. That was the goal to all get here at the same time. I'm like, all right, I gotta go see there. So what if they get here a while you're up here, to go straight to the back? Okay? Cool? Right? Yeah, to have them to go to that back like they know it. Yeah, I think so the two main doors, don't If not, screw it, man, then figure it out. Yeah, but that's Eddie. And so we were talking about doing this Bobby cast because we haven't done one, and people like these a lot more than I thought that, not that I I didn't think they would. It's just that we geek out a lot over music, and I didn't think a lot of people like that. I think they just like you. Oh cool Eddie from the Sore Losers podcast, which I encourage you to check out if you like sports or or a guy talk. Do you guys talk about farts a lot or not? No? No? I mean sometimes we do. Yeah. Sometimes we talk about like hooking up more than we should because past hookups and like what girls like that kind of stuff, And it's just like we shouldn't talk about all that. Let's just move on. At Home run last night. Check out the Sore Losers podcast. Um, but we're gonna do famous songs with misunderstood meanings. I'm trying to think of this well. And this is where it all came from, because on the show recently, I was talking about this song right here, Wonderful Tonight by Eric Clapton, And people usually think this song is a love song, correct, straight up loves song. Yes, because he's like, yes, you look wonderful. People dance their first dance. They play it in romantic scenes of movies because again, most people feel it's a love song. But what it's really about is waiting for his girlfriend to get ready, like hurry up. Yeah, like hey, yeah, you look great, Let's go and again, lots of proms. Yeah. Do you know what cartillian is? Let me see cartillion. It's got to be a rich person thing. Okay, cartillion? Is it the white person version of a um kenana or a I think that's what I don't I don't know. I mean, I'm a Mexican. I would assume that it's this. It's that right, right? What is that? Write? A package of passage where like a girl turns into a woman. Is that? You know how you feel uncomfortable talking about I don't like talking about girls running into women, But I think that's what it was. Mike, Will you look up a cotillion? Because I was a little span of guy in South Texas and there was a group of white people that had cotillion and I got asked to cotillion by by one of these girls. What was your age? We were juniors in high school, so seventeen, okay, so maybe a little older than yeah. And so this I remember this song was our first dance because we got there and we're hanging out whatever, and this song came on and she was like this is a nice one. I liked this and let's dance to it. But this always reminds me of that Cotillion. I still don't even know what that is. The song gets used a lot of problems and weddings, but Eric Clapton wrote Wonderful Tonight in nineteen seventy six while waiting for his girlfriend and future wife, Patty to get ready for a night out. They were going to a Buddy Holly tribute to Paul McCartney put together, and Clapton was in the position that he was used to of waiting while she tried on clothes. We've all been there, like many of us. Do you know the pat the George Harrison story. So Patty was married to George Harrison back in the day and Eric Clapton, yeah, he's married that. She was married to George Harrison from the Beatles when he wrote Layla, which depending on which version you know, I know, is that just Layla? The later version is, oh, there's the unplugged one to that. Okay, that's what I'm thinking of. Okay, okay, so you're thinking of the fast year La, don't no no, But then the slower one, unplugged was we're almost saying the same thing back, but in our minds we're doing it. Clapton Harrison remained good friends, but Layla was about her, and Harrison even played at their wedding in nineteen seventy nine. But I thought her name was Patty, not like but you don't always put the girls name because that writer's code. Eric and Patty then divorced. In Patty Boyd, Recall recalled that Eric Clapton was sitting around playing his guitar while I was trying on dresses upstairs. I was taking so long, and I was panicking about my hair and my clothes everything. And I came down downstairs expecting him to really berrate me, and he said, listen to this. In the time she had taken to get ready, Clapton had written this song right here. Turn that up. It's just how he says it. It's because it's slow, because because if you would have said it in normal in that if you asked me like Green Day, all right, I said, yes, yes, you look wonder boss. Let's go exactly. Yeah. A lot of it's the tempo of the song. You want another one? Yes, These are misunderstood songs that are associated with something completely different Bruce Springsteen, Born in the USA. Most people think this song is about being super patriotic. Yeah, like I was born in the USA, America. It's clear the opposite. I'm gonna be honestly, I'd never really listen to these lyrics. I mean, either all that here is born in the USA. And also I believe the album cover, if I'm right, had America flag wrapped on his hands like a bandana or one of the two. It's back pocket. Yeah, okay, Hey, what was the cotillion? By the way, It's like a French thing. So the cotillion is a dance at a debutant ball debutant. Yeah, I guess it's the same thing. They do it for their girls that are the right of passage. Creepiest thing you can say about. I think that's what they said. I don't know, it's not my words. Um, this song Born in the USA is really about casting a critical and mournful eye on America and its involvement in war. Bruce Proks is gonna be like, what is happening? Sounds massive? Turn the turn of that for one second, I wonder what will you pull up the lyrics? Read me the first verse. I'll read you some of this about it here. It's one of the most interpreted misinterpreted songs ever. Most people thought it was a patriotic song about American pride, when it actually is shameful on how America treated its Vietnam veterans. Springsteen considered it one of his best songs, but it bothers him that it's so widely misinterpreted. With the rhythm, the enthusiastic chorus, and patriotic album cover, it's easy to think, because you see all that in your here to do to that it has more to do with American pride than Vietnam shame. That's what it says. Let's let's do the first lyrics here. It's um born down in a dead man's town. The first kick I took was when I hit the ground, end up like a dog that's been be too much until you spend half your life just covering up. I mean that verse alone just kind of says it. But we don't hear anything except born in the USA. Here we go. Here's another lyric. Come back home to the refinery. Hiring man said, son, if it was up to me, went down to see my v a man, he said, Son, don't you understand. I had a brother are at Keisan fighting off viet Cong. They're still there, he's all gone. He had a woman he loved in Saigon. I got a picture of him and arms now and it goes on. You're right, that's not a patriotic song, not at all. But the choruses, that's crazy. I wonder who the first. I wonder whose idea it was would be like, hey, it's fourth of July, guys, play the greatest American song, Born in the USA. You can just tell we don't listen to lyrics. No, we don't know, not just me and you know, but the collective we of America. Springsteen wrote about the problems that Vietnam veterans encounter when they returned to America. Vietnam was the first war the US didn't win, and while veterans of other wars received a heroes welcome, those who fought in Vietnam were mostly ignored when they were turned back home. What year did that come out? Eighties? Right? Yes, um, Born in the USA. Uh? This dude who was going to make the movie Born in the USA, but it was too associated with a song. Springste helped him out, providing the song Light of Day, which became new to the movie. What movies you talking about? Oh, the original title was Vietnam, and he sent Springsteen the script for the movie called Born in the USA, about a rock band struggling with life and religion, which gave Bruce the idea for the new title. Anyway, it's just it's not what it seems. This is the epitome of this subject. Like, no one thought that this song was a protest song. If you hear thunder, it's because it's thundering outside. We are in a storm. Dolly partons I Will Always love You. It's not it's not about a bodyguard. Well that's another misconception. Um. People you just think this is a breakup song, like I will Always love You even though we're not together. I see that sec is still a love song. But it's really a song about Dolly's mentor and appreciated the time they worked together. She we've heard this story from her, so it's well, it's not a love song in the convention sense. So she wrote her for a close friend or Wagner Porter, Wagner. There you go, I believe, so let me keep reading. In nineteen sixty seven, she was invited by the country star Porter Wagner to coast his TV show, where they became famous for their duets, and as time, her enormous talent eclipsed that of him, and she basically got bigger and decided to jump off. And so she wrote the song about the time they had together, and I Will Always Love You, not a love song about kissy, kissy, but but a love song like hey, thanks, because they weren't romantically involved, ye like I'll Always love you and he and she said she just felt like she had to leave, and he was like, okay, well, good luck, because they thought he thought that they would just do that forever them too. She said leaving Porter Wagner wasn't easy. He thought she was making a big mistake and felt she was being disloyal. Dolly Parton played the song to Wagner the morning after she wrote it as a way of letting him know that her mind was made up and to express how she felt about him. Apparently he got the message across. She said that he was in tears and called it the prettiest song ever her but Allly down in nineteen seventy three, whenever they split. They were together seven years on that show and just working together, and she wrote the song and stay here's how I feel. I will always love you, but I gotta go. So it is it guess in a sense of the breakup song too, in a way quote but I gotta go? It was It just wasn't about love. But again, it's not like romantic love. It's not about romantic love or romantic breakup. But it is about loving a breakup. But we got it wrong and the bodyguard got it wrong too. Yeah, we refreshed my memory. What why why is that song relevant in the movie in the Bodyguard, like they fall in love with each other? Right spoiler alert. I don't know. I've never seen a bodyguard. No, I just see Kevin cost like jump out and take a bullet and then he carries her off. So somebody dies, right, Like does he carry her off? How does he take a bullet and then he carries her off? I have no idea how the bodyguard goes. I've never seen the bodyguard? All right, Well, they messed it up to It was the second of five consecutive number one country hits that she had established. And by the way, Dolly told us that she had never heard the whitn in Houston VERSI until she was driving in the road and roo car correct and she was like she had a radio and I was like, whoa. It was like a verbal agreement that she had. She was like, yeah, whatever, and she'd forgotten all about that. She said, yeah, they she can record it. And she heard the final things like it's really good. That's what she said. Dust dude. Yeah, She's like, huh really good. Yeah. You want to have your mind blown with another one. Come on Closing Time by Semisonic. It's not about a bar closing and you gotta go. It isn't it's not even about something closed. You're lying. There's no way listen to Hey, Mike, will you play this? From the very beginning, he even says like you don't have to go home, but you can't stay here. That's what every bar says. Yeah, I think they've taken it as their own. Whatever you're about to say, I'm not gonna believe because the message does fit the bar, but it also fits what I'm about to tell you. Okay, just listen a bit, all right, So this is Semisonic Closing Time, not about a bar closing or anything closing. He gotta go closing all the doors and let you out into you. I hear it, Mike, when I know what it's about closing talking about turn all over the lights on over every boy and every girl. That's a bar, lights on, closing time, one last call for out come on show whisky beer. It literally could be a bar. Yeah it is. You don't have well, you put the lyrics up on the page. Stay here to take me, okay, take it up the bar situation. It is nice about childbirth? What the thing is the whiskey and beer coming? Well, you like, look at the lyrics here again. All right, closing time, time for you to go out into the world. Baby out of the womb. U turn on the lights over every boy and every girl. That's the baby's surgical room. Um. And then he put a couple of lines in here to also make it. No, so you can't throw a line in. You don't have to be so literal with everything. Okay, So how is the whiskey and beer going childbirth? Like it doesn't have it doesn't have to be literal. Bars picked it because it was literal. Yeah, I mean, because that's what it is. That's so the singer said, it's about the birth of his daughter. When he wrote it, rather than write a cheesy song that was so blatantly about birth, he hid the songs real meaning. He said, the guys wanted a new song to close our sets with, so I thought closing time would be a good title. We had spent seven years of our lives at that point, four nights week entertaining people. That was our lives. I started realizing the whole thing was a pun about being born, so I made sure the rest of the thing could ride with that double meaning. But nobody got the joke, and I didn't bother to explain to everybody would get it because it's not an obvious joke. Yeah, it wasn't supposed to be. It is had to be literal interesting, like time for you to go back to the places you'll be from. The room will be open till your brothers and sisters come. I hope you found a friend. Every new beginning comes from some other beginnings in but you die in childbirth or don't take the girl crossover, like when Eric went to full House Stefan no, no, just ye remember that. Um. He wrote the lyrics time for you to go out to the places you will be from to show the song's focus was actually on the miracle of childbirth rather than an ode to kicking late night bar flies to the curb. He admitted that he had babies on his mind part way through writing it. He said, we were expecting our first kid at birth. On the brain. It was struck, what a funny pun it would be being bounced from the womb. And I guess he wrote it by himself. Want Dan Wilson and so much money. I mean, I'm not believe in the story the only writers. I feel like he's messing with us. I feel like it's one of those things where like, watch this, I'm gonna go to this interview, watch this, I'm gonna get them real good. Whatever. Dude, there'll be a hater because you never caught it. But now every time you hear it, you'll know, Yeah, I'm gonna be thinking of a baby. I mean, what's gonna do lyrics and about stirrups, yea, let's go. Lightning crashes on that one, and again not so much about a baby being born. He says, placenta falls exactly. You can't. It's like a rebirth of life in general. In many ways, maybe I'm just not that deep. Um every breath you take, by the police, it's a love song. It's a stalker stalker song. Yeah, that just clicks. People usually think the songs about being madly in love with someone, but it's really about a guys talking your girl. Come on, we can't do that again. A super misinterpreted song. An obsessive stalker that sounds like a love song. Well, the obsessive person feels like their own love and to them it's just love right, keeps talking to people don't know. I'm not. Some people use it their wedding song. I'll say this too in this example. In the other examples, a song is the message is really what you make it, right, if you wanted to use this as your wedding song, because you have a different meaning, and that's totally music, yea literature music like you can use it in the way that it affected you, So that'd be I'm not gonna kind of bag on anybody for using it as a wedding song. Maybe they just google it, maybe before google it. If you do it now, that's on you, like all the informations out there, and we're telling you right now. Um. Yes, some people use it as UM again, their wedding song and first dance song. The Police from man Sting wrote it after separating from his first wife Francis in three He said, it's a nasty song, really rather evil. It's about jealousy and surveillance and ownership. Regarding the common misinterpretation of the song, he said, I think ambigue. It is intrinsic, however, treated how you will. On one level, it's a nice ambiguity. You can't really tell. It's an honest question. By the way. Yeah, people are a little too embarrassed. I admit they don't know what words means. Because I'll read books. I like read books, come across the word on what it means, I'll just look it up. Yeah, and my wife, there's a lot of words like them. I was like, what does that mean? Um? In America, this is the biggest, the biggest hit of nineteen three. It stayed number one for eight weeks, longer than Billy Jean longer. Yeah, there's the biggest song of how hard he goes on that last part. Every breath you take, every move you make, every bond you break, every step you take, every game you play, every night you stay it's so pissed. That's the point where it's like, and he wrote it by himself, freaking Gordon Sumner. I had no idea that was real name. Gordon Sumner reminds me of Gordon sum Way. New Gordon Shumway is I don't know. Type in Gordon chum Way and see it comes up. I love, I believe that's ALF. I don't know. Again, I'm okay with asking a question here? What an ALF stand for? Right? It was like, yeah, Gordon Shumway is, It's ALF. It is alf. ALF? Name is Gordon? Do you know that? Funny myself? Lad, that's a good Mike. We can play a game like that in the acron for alien life form. Yeah, man, freaking Willie Tanner was the dead about I haven't either, but freaking Gordon Shumway. That's awesome. That great Mike, Like said, I happened to know Gordon, you know so much that ran checked out? Yeah right, and that was it was so obscure that I wasn't better Google that. How sure of that? Were you? Beast? I like, okay, good like, I give it an on a roll shutness, But I went straight to ALF. I wasn't a because that was so long ago and it could have been mixed up over the years. Yeah, ALF was cool because there was the show I liked ALF the TV show that it had a cartoon that was pretty good, and they developed late and I talked show for it and and they did it like on Nick at Night. But it never really blew up. I think they wanted to go network with it at first. But yeah, alf ALF was done um in the Air tonight by Phil Collins. I mean, now I'm starting to think this is definitely about global warming in it. Ok. People usually think the song is about Phil Collins seeing a man let another man drown. What was the lyric that made people think that? Mike, Oh, that one. Well, if you told me you were drowning, I would not lend a hand. I've seen your face before, my friend, but I don't know if you know who I am. Here you go, you face. So people thought this was about like like you and Semisonic. Very simple. They thought it was about a bar, but no, it's not. It's really a song with no meaning. I hate that the myth that people believe Phil Collins wrote the song after watching a man let someone else drown. It's a big misinterpretation because Phil Collins says it's about nothing. He said the song was written without any specific meaning behind it. He drew inspiration from his recent divorce at the time, but most of the lyrics were improvised, but that didn't stop people from spreading one of the most famous urban legends in music history. The legend goes that Collins wrote the song after watching a man let someone else drown, which was lyric well, if you were drowning, I would not lend a hand, and according to the myth, Collins later found the guilty man at a concert. There's different versions of the story too, and all of them are nutty, because when you have a song that means it means nothing, you can do that, right, Yeah, you can just say it's about whatever. One of the versions has a friend of Phil Collins taken the place of the drowning man, and another has Collins refusing to rescue a drowning man who raped his wife. They just got more absurd as they go. Don't go, well, what's not true. Now that's some fiction story right there. He came back and wrote that song. No, no, no, no, it's not true. You're missing the whole Why do well, that's kind of nothing. That's kind of how we write songs at the big into edio play chords or and I'll just start yelling a bunch of words to the melody and it's nothing, yes, improvised, and then we kind of go back and adjusted to make money out of it. Uh. Yeah. The myth has submitted itself in popular culture and even was referenced in Stand Eminem Stand. You might remember these lyrics right here from Eminem standing. Go ahead. You know the song by Phil Collins in the Air of It Tonight about that guy who could have said that other guy's drowning, but the then feel so at all that at it, so we found him. That's kind of how this is. Who could arrescue me for drowning? Now it's too big, I'm on a thousand downars now I'm drowsy. That one was allowed. Why does Eminem say in the Air of the night, Because I'm about to say I thought the song was called in the Air Tonight, But it's Stands saying it, so it could have been like him just getting it wrong. I thought I'd got a wrong all these years. It's about to go, wow, breakthrough. I thought it was called in the air tonight. That's crazy man. Yeah, but even if even he had it wrong. Well standard One of my favorite bands that no longer really is a relevant band is r E M. Oh yeah, this one goes out to the one I Love. This one goes out to another one of those songs. Well most pople things a love song obviously because it's just one so literal, like goes out to I Love like a request. Yeah, that's really about using someone over and over again. It was our first hit, by the way, this is the first r M hit. This one goes out to the one I Love fire and it's wild that their first hit was an eight seven. I wasn't listening to ori M No. I was six or seven years old. But there was that generational gap where like like my brother he knew r M and then I liked r M the later r M. Yeah, when r M hit for me, it was Losing My religion was the big video. Uh. This was their first hit song. It's not a love song. He describes this song. That's about how people use people over and over and over again, and until this line here a simple prop to occupy my time is the lyric that goes, that's what I'm showing. That's the one that sets us straight right there. So what does he say? Fire? And then what she's coming she's coming down mountain? When she comes pretty lea? Oh I never I've never heard that before the time. Listen, like, if you'll pause up for one second. So what they yell in the background so faintly is fire and they go she's coming down on her own. You'll hear it. Oh, let me see, Mike, it's so faint. That's the first I've ever heard that. Okay, we're gonna go back to the beginning of the song and who Lazy Well here with's a new one fromorrow them Rampant ramp thet years seven. You know, I don't I don't know. I don't know where it is. I don't want to miss I don't know risk missing it. Wow, I've never heard that part. So listen closely, turn it up on the fire and Mike if you don't mind, alright, alright, here you go go listen. First, she's coming down on her own. Check it up? Can you hear it down? Alrightdous what goes She's coming down? Wow, dude, first start ever heard that time? That we listen to this song thus it out. Damn wow, that's so cool. How about this one Crash into Me by Dave Matthews. Oh my gosh, Okay, So I think I know what this is about. There's another stalker and you should know because you're a Big Day fan, Huge Day and I love Dave. Now I mean frat girls, a sorority girls, frat guys like this was their song. Like girls loved this song. And people would think it's about a passionate love affair or a love song. I got your skirt a little more your world. To me, it's really about a next boyfriend peeping at a woman from a window, because he does say that in the verse, you've got your ball, you got it's hard. He goes right there, bones on the bottom. I'm watching there your window and I stare and you wear nothing. That's it. These lines give it away. I watch you there through the window and I stare at you. You wear nothing, but you wear it so well. What creepy huh? That was written from the point of view from a boyfriend who wants his girlfriend bag. I watch you there through the window, basically saying he's watching how beautiful she is the song is about a boyeuristic man. Many people conceive it as a love song and fail we'll see the true meaning behind it. On Storyteller's Dave Matthews mentioned that the song was written from a peeping tom perspective and no one ever got that before. And if that's not enough, he says, hike up your skirt a little more to show your world to me. But again, if you're not being literal with it right, it could mean anything like hig grops a little more shre world. It could be like exposed me to different feelings and thoughts. Skirt covers one thing, but the skirt of the world could be a beef skirt could be a fahita. Um. I remember when my brother learned this on guitar and he was so proud and he's like, dude, singing you know all the words, and we sang it. We had the whole family there and I was like, hack your skirt more. My dad was like stop that, stop that next song. So so even says I'm the King of the Castle, you hear the dirty rascal m a scroll a little bit more. Mike, by the way, Day wrote this song by himself. But what does that mean crashing from you better by himself this people be making so much money solo writing these songs by David John Matthews Crash into me? What's he meaning? Like, Let's get our worlds together? Like but again you put our worlds together? Is also you can't mean anything. These guys are so artistic. Slide by the Google Dolls wake up when you are at all slide I have no clue. People usually think it's about being in love. It's really about unplanned pregnancy. M hmm. The song is about dealing with an unplanned pregnancy, with lyrics like I want to wake up where you are or I'll do anything you ever dreamed to be complete. It's understandable if you over look that as a song that's about pregnancy. Um oh oh, he says I'm gonna yeah. He does say I'm gonna let it slide. Does that mean like, all right, I'll just let this one slide. We got the baby, We're gonna We're gonna do this. Listen to this lyrics don't you love the life you killed? Meaning meaning like his, your priest is on the phone, your father hit the wall, your mom disowned you. I'm planning pregnancy, or maybe he's talking about her life like like he may have she may have killed her own life by being pregnant, like like not literally, like figuratively, like your life's over now you have to heise a kid. The life you know you knew is done. Johnny Resnick explained it during a storytellers slide is actually about these two Catholic teenage kids and a girlfriend gets pregnant and they're deciding whether they should get an abortion, or get married or just go on. And I don't think a lot of people get that. The singer described it as a nuts so uh sad tale about some hard choices. I think about that. It's pretty deep, yes, a little ditty. We listened to all these songs not thinking about any of this. American Pie by Don McClane. I can't remember. You'll know what this is about. That's the it's the death of the plane crash part of it, right, you say, you're right. Mostly it's it encapsulates that whole era, and that's and that plane crash um the fifties, you're right, and not even the year, but so much, but that era and what kind of was the exclamation point on the end of it was the plane crash with Richie Vallen's the Big Bopper Buddy Holly, and it's reference in the song. But um, I mean jam right, Jam sang, this be the day that and the day that the music died, literally is the day that that plane crashed with all the music in it. But he said that the lyrics were very ambiguous again, which means I know what it means now, Like ambiguity means yeah, it's doesn't make much sense. Can't tell really like you don't know it could go by the way people ask me if I left the lyrics open to ambiguity. Of course, I didn't want to make a whole series of complex statements. He put the song's original manuscript for auction at Christie's call. On the songs, I'm gonna guess it's he wrote about himself too, these guys the six minute song, Mike is it so so when he there are more people that he's referencing, right, like when he says the Jester again, I think it's just a time and characters, right, And I feel like these characters are just different artists. Well, I never thought about that they were all specific artists, Like I think the Jester maybe would be Bob Dylan. You could be honest something. I don't know my goo with that, the Jester and miss American Bob Dylan. Because if you're right about that, you can ride about the ones to Yeah, Jackie nimble Jack be quickbviously, John Lennon, John Jack huh, Don mc lean rod to buy himself. Oh, speaking of John Lennon, Imagine, I mean, I mean we all know what this is about, right, go ahead, Imagine what the world would be like with without these certain things. Most people think that it's a song about peace and global unity. Kind of what are you kind of because he's just kind of saying, like, imagine if we didn't have these people in power doing certain things religion, politics, everything else, it's actually about WiFi dial up a o L didn't even existed, you got me. That's funny. It's uh more so because it's a slower tone. People think it's super peaceful. It's not. It's like a song about revolutionary ideas of how to achieve peace but doing it through radical ways. But he was smart enough to go, well, if I slow it down introdud as a ballad, people are gonna feel like I'm hugging the world more than screaming it. Who does he say that, I'm I'm I'm not. Why did he not say it like that? Because it's true? And then us we're all like the slow song, so I like it's the song is actually about the Communist manifesto. And now I'm reading earlier that was just me amusing myself. That's pretty good. Most people think that ballads The ballad imagines about people putting us oide their differences, but it's more political. According to Rolling Stone, he once described the song as virtually the Communist manifesto. And even though I'm not particularly a communist and not belong to any movement, the song clearly asked the listener to imagine a world without religion or possessions, but Linen admitted he intentionally admitted he intentionally tried to sugarcoat his message. But the song, the sweetness of the song like only it's like, oh imagine, it's a big hit almost everywhere in a beautiful song because it's anti religious, anti nationalistic, anti conventional, anti capitalistic, and because it's well soften like honey. But this video is so good too. The white piano uh Sarah McLaughlin angel. Yeah, it's about puppies. Puppies h A right, Sarah, and for the Low Low prize at you can help Sparky. Yeah, I nor really has one eye, but you can help that one eye. And it always airs like three in the morning when everyone's drunk, like all right, here's my wallet, this is for you, Sparkie. Oh grat what did I do last night? Adopted thirty? Wait, what's the Sparky's new eye? What the Sarah McLaughlin got me again. Um the song most people think about angels and losing someone, it's really about heroin addiction. Yeah, more specifically the guy from Smashing Pumpkins who died. Really who was that? The keyboartist he died And I'll read a quote. I went to a cottage north of Montreal to relax and write. I read about the Smashing Pumpkins keyboard player who had oded in a hotel room. She wrote this about a song about the drug addict struggles with the world. The angel symbolizes the drugs the addict gives into repeatedly in the arms of an angel meaning the drugs. She said. The story shook me because altho way I had never done drugs like that. I felt a flood of empathy for him and the feeling of being lost, lonely and desperately searching for some kind of release, and that release with drugs or, as some people would have it, their angel. Wow. Crazy, right, people use this one in like funerals, right, sure, maybe because angel is literally's taking the end the little interpretation I've never heard in a funeral, but it would make sense. Wow, this is I mean that changes this. I mean that song is. This song has always been beautiful to me, but it's always been like, I don't know it's about pretty, but wow that I mean. I'm reading it now and like, yeah, that's pretty deep. Spend all your time waiting for that second chance, for a break that would make it okay. There's always some reason to feel not good enough, and it's hard at the end of the day. I need some distraction. Oh, beautiful release, memory seep from my veins. There's the hotel room too, and maybe empty I would wait less and maybe I'll find some peace tonight. Wow. Just a different feeling about it. When you know what you're talking about, drug addiction and drugs from this dark hole. You're right in the chorus in the arms of an Angel, fly away from here from this dark, cold hotel room and the endlessness you fear? Wow, Oh, another super sad one. Do you think that one's gonna get you? Sarah McLaughlin wrote that one on your own too. Maybe they're just writing one person, but surely um the next one, don't cry Hansen and Bob, Now what's this one about? What do you think it's about? I have no idea tune Bob, and now there's more in the verses that I don't remember what they say. Most people think it's just to catch pop song that really means nothing, not true. It's really about how everything we love will be gone before we know it. What does umbop have to do with that? They made the word up, and it really isn't some made up word. This It bop represents a frame of mind and then bop They're gone like bop, It's gone, like who was gone? Oh? Just like that? Yeah, okay, because Bob's a word. The whole song is about the fact that almost everything in your life will come and go quickly. You gotta figure out what matters and grab onto those things. Boy, they don't really love doing that song. Though no, and then they do. They do, but they don't. Like everyone has respect for that one song that did it for them, but it's I mean, it's gonna be hard when that's the one you sing all the time. Well, they played our million Dollar Show, and I like those guys and I know Tyler a bit, Taylor Taylor how well I know Tyler and Jim And I was thinking about having my phone as um because I don't want to put up with Taylor Hanson. You want to see it, Tyler Hanson, Tyler Hanson. It literally is so um. Taylor had come and sat beside me and the seats of the rheme and was like, hey, man, can we not do him, Bob, We'd prefer to do this other song. And that's a hard that's a hard question for you, and it just comes right out to me and asked me. And I respected that he asked me straight up and just didn't get on and not play it. But at the same time, everybody came to see Bob that was coming to that show. Is that what you I was like, Man, you can play whatever else you want, but you gotta play them Bob, Like that's it again. You don't gotta. I'm not gonna make you, but I can't sit here and say, you know what, go ahead, do whatever you want. Like everyone here wants you to play you in Bob, so if I'm asking, please play Bob. And they did, and everybody freaking jerked their phones out quicker than I've seen almost anybody pull their phones to any artist. So but and it's also super a kid. So I'm sure they're adults and they have kids. They have probably kids that are close enough there, so we'll be like writing a song when you're fourteen and having to sing it when you're thirty and over. I remember when they committed and you told me. They're like, oh, they're gonna do the show, and I'm like, oh great, so we might have to learn hum Bob. And I looked over the oom Bob. I'm like, I'm never gonna memorize that. Ever. You have a favorite hands and song that oom Bob? No no, no, I like, oh, there's another one that I really like. It's about a girl. Maybe that Penny and Me is a good one. Any he was really good. Did they do that on our show? Maybe? I think they did so good? Um, will you pull up the hands and playlist Mike Penny and he's a jam. My favorite is I Will come to you. Whoa, They're so good they are it's challenged. Will you play it from the beginning? Will you play I will come Mimacum, it's to you. I will come to you. I will come to you. When' that you know this one? This is deep cut. This is the hands and deep cut. Nope, you have to go and come to you. Come on, jam, I will come to you. I will come to you. Um your dreams. Well, I believe that does it for today's show man. It's funny how you said, like a lot of these stories came out of like storytellers and didn't bring storytellers back with like Ariana Grande and be like, Ariana, what is the when you say you like my hair just bought it? What do you mean by that? Like? You know, Storytellers was huge to us and we learned so much. And she'll be like, well, how was it done with thirteen people? Actually I wasn't even there and we were just thrown out words. Of course, we made a melody. They gave us the beat and we went do do and then we had to fit words over and those two things haven't a fit because I remember learning that like Pearl jam Eddie Vetter wrote like Betterman or something fifteen years before the band even got together. Oh yeah yeah, and they we're learned that from storytellers. Well it's like County Crows when they were the himalay Is. I didn't know that. Hey we look up that again. I could miss this up there. His band was the Himalayas. Oh, it could have been a different mountain range. It's been o was it everest? Let's see because the last thing I wanted to leave something up here. That's wrong. But but some of those songs were even on that record, the first record, The County Crows, Berkeley, California. First name now type in um County Crows, um original band. There is there is the himalay Is. Round here was the Himalays round here? No way? Yeah, American rock band between they're best known for starting their career this is that's the base. This is the himalay Is doing round here. Wow, that's I mean, that's a different sound for sure. Yeah. So again they had written that song and cut it on there. We can do it. We can do a whole Bobby cast on this on bands that were before the band. We just break down all of that Storytellers Live CD. Hey, um, you know it would be fun at this point because Adam Durrett's used to be really famous. At this point, I could probably it on pretty easily. This is it the front door? Not so? The melody is the same, is never the same? Get a better view? Crumb also wrong and right to right myself and back again, less whiny, I don't know. Wow, good call. Yeah, who she's dying is a different debate. Yes, why that's just the baseline like litt Bisuku like to lit biscuit baseline, This wouldn't admit it heavy Electra that you're right. It does sound like a different band of blue like those horns when bis get that era that yeah, all right, alright, that you taught me. That's one I didn't know. That is no clue and that was a Ryan knew it. So stuff just sits back here sometimes and I'll just go oh, like my initial reactions to yell at out, it matches a lot of like Gordon, like freaking Gordon sway some way, Mike, look that up right by the way, A big shout out to Mike, do who produced this entire episode, all the clips and tons of research. So thanks to him. Is your family here? I have no idea my phone, but it's raining, so they can't be at the pool. I have no out check right now. They're probably down watching TV the snacks. I'm started watching the show called The Boys on Amazon. It's about it's a superhero show, but it's like real life, meaning as reel life as you can be. It's like these people are superheroes, but it's like the real problems have real like like addiction, um, like sex stuff, and they live on Earth. Wow, that sounds good. It's really good. Like you're watching it one season? Yeah, it's eight episodes. And if you have this is not a commercial. By the way, No, I have Amazon. If you have Amazon Prime and you order stuff, you get all the shows too, which I didn't know for a long time. I had to buy a second separate descriptions. No way. But it also comes with a lot of other stuff that you didn't know you had, like TV stuff like golf tournaments. They're all on there for free. For for my gambling. You know, if you like golf, like basketball games that you normally wouldn't find. They're on there, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go play racquetball with Amy's husband. The big debate was while I win, yes, you say yes? I think you will because because he's good. He's a bigger guy and I feel like he's stronger than you. But racketball is about but he's a bigger guy and not fat. He's no, he's pretty in shape though. He flew us this week and he had a tucked in shirt and he did he looks good. Yeah, he looks good, but I don't. He doesn't write like like you do the peloton bike like mccardio. But it's more than just running. Yeah, it's fast, that's mostly what racketball is, back and forth? Do you know you gotta be able to hit it? Though he mostly Eddie's given me his prognostication on rack. I feel like I could give you a good running back of ball. There is no way like, not like unless you've played those. And it's not even my athletic prowess. It's playing the angles off the walls all the time. I know many, I'm gonna play the game. Cool, cool, Bobby, see that it would you do ten bucks at four to one odds meaning you would win ten dollars, but you would lose forty I would correct, but if you bet on me, you can win a lot more than that, but you would lose ten. Win for it. Thanks Mike appreciated that. Check out The Sore Losers That's Eddie lunch Box and Raymundo's podcast. Check out Amy's podcast Four Things with Amy Brown. Check out The Velvet's Edge with Kelly Henderson's The Lifestyle podcast about fashion and just well being a female and living your your best mid twenties and mid thirties life. Um Also check out Caroline hobbies podcast called Get Real, where she talks with a lot of the wives of country music superstars and just really strong women in the business. By the way, I don't know if it's up yet, but Chris Daughtry's wife, Uh so she had a girlfriend while her and Chris were together. Open. Really they're married and she had a real life, open relationship. Talks about this on the fun Is it up yet? It'll be up tomorrow so you're by the time you heard this. Got Get Real with Caroline Hobby and is that Mike Deed? Is it about to bring on another podcast? I'll tell who does all the year. But somebody really funny. Really yeah, you were saying you have a meeting with someone? We did. It was him and his two managers. Manager very cool, all right, all right, thank you guys, and we'll see you next time here. Anything you want to say, Oh man, thanks for having me. It's fun. Who's your favorite band of all the bands? Who's your favorite band that morphed into County Crows the only one that's right? Am I missing anyone? And what is the term for amb ambiguity? Can't tell? It could be either ambiguity, Well, that's so ambiguous if something's ambiguous, but a form of that would be and it's ambiguity ambiguity. And when his alphabal name Gordon Lightfoot, it's hardest, all right, by everybody,