#300 – Chris Lane on Never Thinking He’d Get Married and Have Kids + Garth Brooks Showing Him A Card Trick + Going From Baseball to Landing A Record Deal

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Speaker 1: Welcome to episode three hundred. Who knew this was a milestone episode? We made it, Dan, Chris Lane is coming up. A good long interview with Chris. Huh yeah, an hour a good one. Yeah. Chris Lane on never thinking he'd get married to have kids and now he's both. Yeah. Also he talks about Garth brookshaw m card trick and going from playing baseball at a high level to landing a record deal which you never thought he was going to actually get or even try to get. Pretty crazy story I learned some about about Chris. So that's coming up in a little bit. But as always, let's check out the top five songs that I'm like, Hey, that's really cool. Number five, Brett Young has a new album. It's called Weekends Look a Little Different these Days. Here is a new song called not Yet Good. At number four, I really like this. This is the Lantis Moore set. She released a cover of on the Road Again with Willie Nelson On the Road Here look a the chipsues we Go. I really feel on that one. That's a good one. Good Yeah. At number three, Tyler Farr has a new song. It is called cover Girl Hate Cool, Shouldn't have to Cool? Make up path, don't heal it? So damn tired of see lee. Number two is Ashley Cook. She has a new song called under Yell. That song good up the fives tole me there underneath it She's someone to swell under the run everything under this song, so I don't understand anywhack. It's a good one from Ashley Cook. Check her out. And number one my favorite artist, John Mayer has a new song called Last Train Home Before we play it here. He announced on Tuesday we were releasing his eight studio album titled Sawbrock on July, and marks his first studio album since Search for Everything. But here is a clip of Last Train Home. You gotta wrong if you want to use you gotta very eighties sound? Yeah? Do you like that sound? I mean it takes me back to like his second record Well Inside one Um. Yeah, yeah, I don't. I don't know. I don't know. Overall, are you feeling his new sounds? Is a big fan? I don't know, And you spend more time with I don't know. I don't want to say yes because I don't want to say Here's why, because I don't want to say yes just because it's John Mayer. But I don't want to say no because I haven't exist John Mayer. I didn't. I just need to invest a little more. It's like when Ben Folds put something out and it's a little quirky. I'm like, I don't know, do I love it or do I hate it? I really need to spend time with it. Do you feel it's still in the same vein of his last album though? No, no, no, he's He always puts a little little dinkerdlinks and changing it up a little bit. I mean even from Paradise Valley too. I mean he did basically a country record at one point, nobody called it country because this is years ago. But so we'll see. So he's still not an automatic No matter what he puts out, you're gonna automatically love for you. If there's anyone, it's him. But I don't want to say yes because I don't want to be that guy. But yes, yes, but I don't want to be that guy. So but yes, I will well, but I'm sure um albums out today. Walker Hayes has country stuff, let's see, Billy Gibbons has hardware, Liz Fair has sober ish, Rise Against has nowhere generation. I think that's it. B J Thomas died at seventy eight years old. He is most known for rain drops keep Falling on My Head Monday and just like guys up to speaking of Ben Faldsman folded a great cover of this song. Bj BJ Thomas passed away. Dylan Scott's Nobody hits number one, so congratulations. Loves a good song. Keith Urban has announced some new Vegas dates. He will pick up as Las Vegas Residents Colosseum Las Vegas Residency at the Colosseum at Caesar's Palace in September. They're all September twenty five. Tickets on sale June seventh, So today the fourth son Fit's Monday. Monday? Okay, Monday the seventh. You may be listening this on Monday. I don't know. Uh. And finally, a Florida concert promoter is using tickets to encourage COVID nineteen vaccinations. A concert promoter in Tampa is offering a massive discount to vaccinated people. You got ticket to see Teenage Bottle Rocket for eight Team bucks if you're vaccinated, if you're not ars, so there you go. Keith been hitting me up about my TV show. Really what you're saving up today? He's like, hey, I watched both episodes are great, and then he hits me up like eight hours later, how many does you shoot? Like? He's genuinely interested. It's a good guy. He We're very sporadic in our friendship, meaning we'll talk a lot for a week and then we won't hear from each other for three months. But most I think he just travels the world and goes and has cooler friends. I think I'm just like, um, But there you go. I think you're gonna like this Chris Lane interview. I liked doing it. That's usually a good sign of if it's good or not. I hope you do it. Please rate the show high. Give it five stars, five stars. Please, hey listen. If you want good luck today, go over and give it five stars and write a nice comment. If you want bad luck today, don't. But if you're want good luck today, that's what you can do. All right, Thank you guys, seriously. Here is the rest of the podcast here with Chris Lane. It's been a while since I guess we've when's the last time we did anything together? Was it my old condo? Yeah, like in downtown yeah, I remember that day. That's a long time ago. What was it like a bathroom something, who knows what was happening. Then it was when I've grown up. I've matured so much since that. I was I was watching either your Instagram or um Lauren's Instagram. And we have two dogs and are right now like we have roofers that are working on in the house and so they're boom boom boom, and the dogs are freaking out all the time. So we have Stanley, who's the bulldog. He is like a dog day camp. He stays there in the daytime when something's happening. Ella she's in heat right now, which we couldn't get her fixed in time. So we're back. We're kind of back, but we're having to move dogs back and forth. And I was watching your Instagram. There's some place that drives up to your house and they just like open up the back door and your dog is right down there. So Lauren and I used to live at twelve twelve there in the gulch and uh there was a guy who would come I think the company is called pet House, and they would come pick up all the dogs in the building. And we learned about this when we moved in and he would pick him up, take him down to Franklin where his businesses, put him in the spinsteon air outside and you can watch them play together all day long. Like they love it so much. So when we moved to the house that we're in now, we thought, man, we still need to find a way, even if we have to drive him over to twelve twelve to get picked up. He said, Noll, drove to your house and pick him up. I got other doors in the area. So he drives over to the house to pick them up. We usually do it once or twice a week, but most most of the time on Fridays, and uh, they know it well. They go running out to that car, they jump in it. He takes him down there, he brings them back. At the end of the day, they're exhausted, which makes our lives easier at night when they just want to lay in their beds. It was like he almost honked the horn or did something and they were like, and you in the door and right into the back of that van. Yeah, yeah, I watched that three times. I know. We we we always say leading into the next day, we're always like, who's ready to go to pen pass and they get so excited and uh yeah one of the things that we look forward to as as their parents, and uh something that they really look forward to as well. Speaking of dogs, you walked in. I mean we literally turned the mics on roum when you walked in. So we haven't had a lot of time to catch up, but I was like, damn, look at you looking good, like all dressed up. You were doing some sort of flee and take some sort of dog thing. Yeah. Yeah, So a company called Ceresto. I'm just doing um something with them for National Best Friend Day that's uh coming up in just a few days. We work with Perina a lot. Okay, yeah, I do service dogs. I work with them and the Service Dogs Slute campaign they do, and then Caitlin does different things with Perena and Ella and um it's been pretty rewarding because you know, we're also able to help them. You know, one get dogs adopted and service dogs, but those dogs have become a massive part of our life. Oh my god, dollars are the best. When we got ours, actually did not want a dog because I mean, as you know, you're gone all the time. It's hard like for me the same thing like going out on the road. Uh, Lauren was there or else she would come out on the road with me as well. And uh, it's not necessarily the easiest fit in the world, but these two have been and and we've made it work. And it's been the best decision ever. Even when I thought, I said, man, we don't have the room for it. They've made both of our lives so much better. I'm gonna get to the dog graduation to the kid later, but I was, you know, I watched. I watched, and it seems like and you gotta tell me the thought process behind this. When you're putting out any song now, single or not, it always feels like a single. Yeah, And that's a compliment, right, And I take that as a compliment. It always feels like a single regardless of what it is. There's a whole you're like dressed up like your dad's business law in business back in the day, you and dust and you know, so like when you're in your little creative me things because we don't have them for different reasons, I have mine to ensure is that kind of the game plan, Like every song release, you want to actually be like an event, Yeah, for sure. Um. You know, I've had two records up to this point, and it's been three years since my second record. I've only had out to UM. But this time around, like we've tried certain things. I've I've learned what works from me and what doesn't necessarily work for me. And I think every artist goes through this they figured out along the way. Um, I'm gonna work towards a record at some point on this but uh, I've taken a different approach this time around, and and really releasing singles. I think in the world that we live in now with Instagram, uh, you know, everybody's used to just swiping up and onto the next thing, new thing, whatever it is, You've got to kind of stay top of mind. Uh. So I'm gonna take that approach when releasing music now and kind of work towards a record. But when I a song that I really like a lot, or or get a song that I really like a lot, it allows me to get into the studio, recorded in that moment and kind of put it out whenever I want, opposed to being tied to, uh, you know, a record or singles off a record. Because you know, I had two singles off my last record, and that took two to three years, uh to kind of go through a single cycle. And that's just kind of the life of a young artist on the radio. But um, yeah, a different approach this time. Try to get songs to react like singles and and figure out ways to uh hopefully make them do that. As a consumer, that's what I like. Yeah, same here. I I'm literally just doing what I like, uh, you know, just being new all the time, just dropping a new song whenever you want. Um. And I still like albums to a degree, right, I like albums from my favorite artists. Yeah there there yeah, yeah, I will say this. There's there's Uh. I feel like albums have worked for uh, certain artists in this genre. I can only speak up because I don't know about other genres, but I mean you you think about people like uh, you know Morgan's for an example, one of my label mates. I mean he really sed a double album and obviously worked on a massive scale. Luke Calm, same thing. I mean, you know, Luke, Bryan, al Dean, all those guys can do that. But for me, I've learned what just to release a new song all the time might help my career grow faster. Yeah, I like and and here's what it. Here's what's hard for me is that there's somebody that kind of like and they put out an album. Half the track is gonna be lost on me. I'm not even gonna agree. I'll may go click. I don't give it a fair shake if they're not my absolute favorite artist. And for an artists like yourself, who you're still a new artist. It's not like you have ten million people sitting there waiting for a record. Yeah, but I just my My whole point with that is, I like, I agree with the methodology of it. Yeah, I like. I also like I can do a concept album too. Let's say if it's a Newish artist, but I and I know it's a concept album. I'm like, okay, let me see what I'm getting here. Like like concept albums. And I like my few favorite arts like a Casey or a John Mayor know about it. And then I like Old Dominion with all their songs. Yeah they're great, are good, but other than that, and like, give me three or four songs at a time, or give me once. I get I get that, Yeah, I get that. Um yeah, So taking that approach, this time around, I don't play a little bit of a fill them boots. It's still the single right now, right you're still newly working on brand new looking, brand new shoulder break, take a holiday solo drink or two anyway him and I'm away. Yeah, I can feeling boots. I can feel them boots if you want to pick. I'm looking at some of the credits on this because some big songwriter guy and I see you, Josh Miller, Mark Trussell. Ernest Keith Smith is that Ernest? Ernest Keith Smith is Ernest? Yeah, that's his name. No idea that it was Ernest Keith. When I first met him, it was Snow. Then it was Ernest Keith Smith, and it was Keith Smith. Um. Now it's arn slash Ernest Um. He's got a million different names. Yeah, I love him. Ernest Keith Smith. Three names, two in the in his extremely professional environment. Ernest Keith Smith. You guys going to I'm always curious about when you go into a room, because you know, if you get a good idea you kind of jotted down on your phone, maybe you've got a couple of lines, maybe you just got a concept, and so you know, you walk into the room and who's who kind of comes up with the well, what about filled them boots? But it's a different because obviously it's different than what you think of when you see the title of the song. Sure, how did that come about? Yeah? So, Um, I've only had writer's out on the road with me for two weekends in my entire career. Um, because I had just moved to a second bus and I was out on my headlining tour. The first weekend. Um, it was a guy named Will Bundy, who I like writing with here in town is great uh at making songs sound like they're already fully produced when you get the demo back. Um. And we wrote a song called That's what Mamas Are For that are released on Mother's Day. But uh, the second weekend I went out, I took Josh Miller. He's one of my favorite writers in town, Mark Trussell, same thing. Uh. He literally makes it sound like a record when you get a demo back. Um. And then earned was out on tour with me, and uh what I did was I told him he could ride my bus instead of getting in a van and doing that whole thing. Ride my bus, uh every weekend and we'll write when we can, and that was just a kind of a little agreement that we had come up with. And this weekend I brought out Josh and Mark okay, and uh we wrote four songs throughout the whole weekend, and Filled the Boots was one of them. I feel like I got three other good ones from the weekend as well. But we started this song late night one night after a show in Grand Rapids, Michigan. Uh didn't finish it. Josh Miller actually had the title, um, and he's super great about coming in with the concept. Uh sometimes half written in a way. Yeah, we just had this title. We didn't really have any other idea around it, but uh, we just kind of started freestyle and late night one night, came up with the idea of the concept that we wanted to throw around it, and then finished it the next day in Detroit. And I didn't think much about it at the time. Um, we got the demo back from Mark. Actually earned sing on the demo. Uh, just there the day of when we got the demo back. Then I went over to Mark's house because always like hearing myself on a song that helps me decide whether I want to record it or not, and his demo for this song was really really good. It was It's a lot different than the same guitar part, but the rest of the track is a lot different than what we hear now that my producer Joey came up with. UM but a song that I've listened to over the over the quarantine. Um, it never got old to me, and and I kept asking, like my team, I want to record the song. I feel it's never gotten old to me. It feels really good. Um, it doesn't necessarily dive deep, you know what I mean. It's not a not a newly written concept you're gonna blow people's minds. But it just felt great to me, and uh, everybody agreed. Everybody, everybody I played this song for really liked it a lot. Um I got in and I recorded it, and uh yeah, ended up being my next single. And I'm super proud of its super excited to kind of have an up tempo track because my last you know, three or four singles have kind of been in that mid uh mid state that kind of felt like they had a little bit energy. Um, but I would consider the song a tempo for me. I've hit a couple more of these years Tequila on a boat with Dustin Lynch late ain't fake a girl with my eyes on her? So is this a youth song or a Dustin song? It's actually a Dustin song, okay, because I saw it post on both the counts. Yeah, So he called me on this song. Um, I think he's had it for a couple of years. To be quite honest with you, I think it was a song that Justin Eboch, Hillary lindsay somebody else. I'm sorry, I'm forgetting their name. Um, we're riders on and uh, I know he recorded it a while ago and then I got the call on it about a month and a half ago, something like that. What do they say to you? They just said, hey, we have this song that we want to put out in the middle of May, and we would love for you to throw your vocal on it. And I listened to it and after sometimes it takes me ten listens to like love a song, but this is one of those songs that I heard for the first time and loved everything about it. Um, Dustin I had been on tour together. He actually took me out on his first ever headlining tour, on the Hell of a Night tour, and that was back when I had just put out Fixed and was just getting my start here in Nashville. Um, and we've kept in touch. We we became great friends just through that tour, kept in touch all these years. And UH very excited that he asked me to be a part of this song. I love everything about it. Um. We've had many a days out on his boat out on either Old Hickory or Percy Priest. I can't always get the two confused. UM, So it just felt like it made perfect sense. Um. I love summertime country music. That's what I want my brand to be. I'm a huge Kenny Chesney fan. A lot of people know that, but U I love that summertime country music style. And I've really tried to make an effort to uh to jump into that. Does he call you himself or does yeah he does. He's like, hey man, because that's always a weird ask whenever you unless it's already been agreed upon prior to sure, like hey, yeah, we're gonna do the song. Yeah. If I could hit you about this, you're gonna do it. Yeah. And if it's like, oh man, I gotta call it, I'm gonna it's always frustrated. And I'm sure you've had the same situation. Does he call and go, hey man, you can say no. Yeah, that's always's usually how it's always lived. Like if you hate it, you don't have to know pressure. Yeah, it literally is that. It's like, hey man, no worries if you don't love the song, but I would love for you to be a part of this and you'll be singing that second verse if you choose to to jump on it. And I listened to it and felt like it was a song that I would fit well on. And Uh again, I mean super excited that I got to be a part of that. I mean I'm still in the early parts of my career and I think you you want to find different ways to grow and and I'm thankful that he allowed me to jump. I consider him uh to be an incredible artist and one that I've looked up to, and UH just pumped to be a part of the song. Do you ever say no? Do you ever get one and go yeah? I've actually said no to a couple if it didn't feel like it made the most sense. I've I've said no for sure, summer job, money, can I play? I'm not gonna ask you, who don't worry, wouldn't I wouldn't put you in that spot. There was a summer job money from crew this This was the one where I saw the picture and you were like in your dad's lawn care, like sort of a spoof on that, right or was it really his his business? Yeah? Yeah, so I'll say this. Yeah. So my my dad still runs the business us there in Kurnersville, North Carolina, small business, UH called Lane and Son's Landscaping. And when I graduated college, UM, I assumed that I was going to move on and play professionally. My twin brother got drafted by the Reds decided not to play. I did not get drafted. UM. I had had several a c O reconstructions that kind of hurt my chances at that I was still hopeful, UM, but it didn't happen. So we both moved back to Kernersville, had no clue what we were going to do. And UM, I had thought about training training to become a firefighter at the time, and some of my friends had jumped into that. But my dad had this business that my brother and I jumped into, and uh, we were both really good at the landscaping side of things, and I did that for a while. He paid us like eleven bucks an hour. I remember stressing out because because I thought to myself, um, you know, at some point I want to be able to to settle down with somebody, started family, all that kind of stuff. And I know he was doing the best that he I mean, that was more than he could should have been able to offer us because it wasn't like he was making a ton of money. Um. So we just jumped into that working. And then at the same time I had started learning how to play the guitar and figuring out how to play and sing at the same time. And then fast forward, to make a long story short, fast forward all these years later, I'm in shocked that all of this has happened for me. Um. I feel like I worked really hard at it, but it was not something that I thought of in the beginning, because you know, when you're from a small town, you don't think or at least I never thought of, oh, one day, I want to have a record deal and and a song on the radio is not I didn't even think of that because I didn't think that was possible. I wouldn't even know who to go to or I'd really never been to Nashville. Uh, none of that stuff. So when I recorded this song, uh the summer job I had, I wanted to pay tribute to um, which was landscaping for my dad's business. So I kind of brought that back with the whole uh summer job money. And I think it's a real feeling something that you know when you have a girlfriend in high school or when you're seventeen or whatever it may be. UM, A lot of those lines in the song, like you spend all your money on gas for the tank and and beer for a high school party or or at the concession stand, which was the line that kind of stood out to me that I loved the most. UM. So yeah, I kind of brought it back with the landscaping. You talk about learning how to play guitar. It was after college that you picked up a guitar. So why would why would you, like, like, what what would inspire you to grab a guitar you've never played to start at years old? That's a great question. Um, I actually started. So I finished college in four and a half years. I had to go back for a half semester um after uh, after baseball just because of your hours in in the amount of time that you can you know, you're always gone when it comes to traveling for base and stuff like that. So I just needed the extra semester to graduate. So during all my downtime, I had asked my parents, uh the prior Christmas before for a guitar, and they bought me this nine and one dollar Fender guitar. And leading up to that, I would just any extra time I had, I would sit there on the edge edge of my bed in Charlotte, North Carolina, where I went to school at UM, and I was learning how to play. And then that last semester I started getting a lot better and learning some of my favorite songs. I mean, I was inspired. I've been to a lot of Keither in concerts, Kenny Chesney. Um did it come to you easy? Though? Because it didn't know? Okay? When I because around, I mean that was probably twenty one, and I was like, I gotta learn guitar, like to do comedy shows. Hey Canny it was. I bought a quart you to Walmart. It was horrible, So I was, I mean, I it's hard, but you have such hand eye coordination as you were so close to being a professional athlete. I wonder was it easier for you because you do control your body a little better. Honestly, I don't know what it's like for other people, but I don't think so. I mean, the excuse I found myself making a lot was my hands are too small. I can't but they won't been the right way to to do these cores. And now that I really know how to play, like, how could I not do this before? But it really is just muscle memory. For anybody out there wanting to learn how to play the guitar like you can, you just have to actually sit down and practice it. I mean, as you know. I mean could you sing though, because all this you're doing a lot of this at one time? Yeah? So I always loved singing along to my favorite songs. But did I think to myself, I can sing no? Um? But uh, when we would go on trips or baseball and we'd be on the bus and stuff like that. Uh. I remember in college when we'd be on trips, uh singing to a few different songs like acapella. My brother and I would do this on the bus, and all the guys always asked us to do this, so I thought to myself, I mean, maybe I'm better than I think that I am. Um. So, yeah, year years into playing the guitar, I would I figured out how to play and sing at the same time. I mean I would play every Eric Church song, Al Deane, Luke Bryan, I mean Chesney Keith urban song that I loved. And I know I drove my roommates crazy in college because I was always playing the guitar and always singing. But I eventually got to where I'd go out into the garage and uh, I would practice all day long when I'd get out of class, like it was just something I became very passionate about. And then they had this open mic night at this place called Boardwalk Billy's, which I have no clue that still there in Charlotte where I went to school. Um, and they did open mic night. Did you take him on with you? You go? It would beat me just on my acoustic. I knew how to play a handful of any friends, I'm saying, did you have any friends in the crowd to kind of hype Yeah? So, uh so I was. I was. I will say this. I think her name is Megan. Uh she was in a sorority and she loved country music and she had a great voice as well. Um, and they would give me about a handful of songs. So I would play three, whether it be an Eric Church song or Aldean or Luke Bryant, whatever it may be, UM, songs that I knew the crowd would sing along to. I'd get her up there to sing a couple of songs as well. And by doing that, all of her sorority sisters would come out to this bar and hang out. And uh, it was always packed every Wednesday night. And Uh, I would get up there and do my thing, and when I would finish, people would always be like, oh, dude, you're great. I was the only guy up there who would ever play country music. And I think people really loved that a lot. Um, and I kind of got lucky in that sense. But what was the first time you did that? Though? Because we jumped a little bit here, I'll make sure like you're playing in the garage, practicing on the bed, But what what was the first time We're like, man, I gotta go do this in front of somebody. I don't know what clicked, but there was a guy on my baseball team, Um, I had heard the guy say, oh, he went up there and played, uh this open mic night. And I thought to myself, well, if he can do it, I can do it. And I was nervous as all get out, but I actually went up there one night and and uh and did it and loved. I think I started to crave that affirmation that I was getting from people that always be like when I finished, they'd always be like, man, you're so good, Like I love I love what you do, Like I'm so glad you played country music because nobody up here does. Um. And I love that attention that it gave me early on, and it caused me to go back every Wednesday night, just just in that last semester. So we're talking September, October, November, and I graduated in December. And uh, when I moved back to Kernelsville, we didn't have anything like that. There was no open mic nights anywhere, you know, small town. UM. So my brother twin brother a lot of people don't know, but I have a identify up to him, was like, as oh, man, you got amy. Everybody does that. Uh yes. So he when we moved back home after college, we were living there at my parents house and uh, upstairs, we went and bought this drum kid because he was like, oh, I learned how to play the drums and I'll play with you while you play guitar. And what age was this for him? I mean, what are you twenty one or twenty two and you graduate something something somewhere in that drums at twenty two as well? Yeah, yeah, not long after I started the guitar and we would just sit upstairs at my parents house and uh play all the songs that we loved, and he would figure it out, just like I was kind of figuring that out along the way. And for whatever reason, I said, you know what, I want to start a cover band. We'll play all of our favorite songs. Um, but you can play drums. I'll find a guitar player somewhere. UM. Never happened for a while, so it would just be me and him. But the first show that I ever had at this place called J. J. He Looney's in high Point, North Carolina, I went to book my own show. I just wanted to get a show playing in front of people for an hour, you know what I mean? I knew ten songs maybe and I go in I asked the guy, Uh, hey, I want to play a show in here. I feel like I can pack this place out. I was saying whatever I felt like I needed to say, um, and he said, yeah, all right, I'll give you an opportunity. I've seen some of my friends play in this place. And he just said, the only thing is like, you have to play a four hour set and you have to have a full band. We don't do acoustic shows. And yeah, yeah, I lied and said, yeah, yeah, no problem. So what I did leading into that night, it was I hired two buddies, two friends of mine that did not know how to play an instrument, to come on stage and act like they were playing for the show because I didn't want it to get canceled. Uh. Long story short, Uh, it was really bad. Was terrible. My brother was terrible. Uh. We played the same ten songs like three or four times over. Um. But because so many people showed up, I kept getting opportunity after opportunity to step in and play shows. And just like anything, the more you do something, the better get at it. And um yeah. That ultimately gave me a start, and then years in I started trying to write my own music for the first time, because I realized, Hey, if I ever wanted to do anything with this, that's what I need to do. Um, the songs weren't great, and somehow people showed up to the shows and they would sing it. And then a lot of the bigger clubs that all the national acts from Nashville drive down and play. I could sell out on my own. So I built up this following there in the southeast of you know, Florida, Georgia, and in North Carolina. And fast forward years later, that's what ended up getting me a record deal here in Nashville. When did you decide, all right, I'm gonna not now to go try Nashville where the giants are. I mean, I never thought that. I just I thought in the moment when people would fly out and watch me play. I remember I would go home after the shows and talk to my parents about it because I would be like, this is the craziest thing I've ever seen. I've never even thought about getting a record deal or any of that stuff. And now people are really starting to fly out to watch me play all these shows. And I think what happened was, uh, a lot of the booking agents were talking in town saying like, who is this guy in North Carolina who's selling out all these shows on his own and booking them on his own and he's not signed to a record label. Um, And I think that's what ultimately got me a record do. And your brother was like, if you go, I want to go. Yeah. Yeah. So my brother had a child at the time, he just had a child, Um, callaway and I was moving to Nashville, and he's like, well, I started this thing with you, like I wanna keep playing drums for you. And I think we thought, like a lot of artists think, like if you're not in town, um, you don't really know what to expect. I thought to myself, I mean, I'm about to move to Nashville. I could potentially have a record deal, Like you're instantly famous, you're instantly rich, like all this kind of stuff, and uh, for for family's sake, for his sake, you know, I think he wanted to be along for the ride of that. And we learned the hard way that it takes a lot of time, a lot of time out on the road playing nobody, exhaustion, traveling through the night every night, driving yourself around, um everywhere. But it makes it all worth it in the end, uh, you know, when you get to this point, and hopefully I continue to grow from here. But I was giving opportunities to go out on tour with uh Florida Georgia Line and and Rascal Flats and all these people that I grew up going to their concerts brat Paisley UM. And it was honestly an unbelievable experience and one that I'm still kind of, you know, getting used to now roll through a few number ones here here is fixed from the first number one, right yeah, and so that hits in now it was until he had another number one, which is I don't know about you, right one. If my chronological order is wrong, stop me, but I think I think I have it here. So in between eighteen though, like you have a hit? Are you just banging your head against the wall, like I got, what's what? What's been three years? Yeah? Yeah? So so basically what happened was this, Um, A lot of people don't even I haven't really said this a whole lot, but uh, when I first moved to town, UM, I started working with Joey Moy, who is an incredible producer. You know, he produces Morgan Wallen j Cowen Uh did all the old nickelback stuff as well. UM. I got into the studio with him early on. And and because I had never been in the studio before, especially with the producer like that, UM, I didn't really know what to expect, and I don't I was not prepared for that. UM. So I had a lot of learning that I had to do. I had to start taking vocal lesson. I never had a vocal lesson in my entire life. I started taking vocal lessons UM. And my sound was much different when I first moved to town than Fix and for Her, which from my first two singles. UM. But what happened was I was going down a different trail like music that I really loved a lot um that had more rocking guitar, all that kind of stuff, and I felt like that was my bread and butter. But UH, when I got Fixed came along Uh. This was a song that I was friends with Jesse Fraser Sarah Buxton who was signed a Big Loud at the time as well. UM. They had this song that they pitched me, which was Fixed at the time, and it was so different than anything that I had ever done. I thought to myself, I'm a young artist. I'm not gonna it's hard to stand out when you first get here because there's so many incredibly talented artists. Um, maybe this song will help me stand out in a different way because it had the whole falset. It's not the first time anybody's done that in country music. But at the end of the day, it had it all over it, you know what I mean. Um, And it was the first song in the studio that my producer had ever turned around and said, what was that? Like? Why don't you do that every time you get into the vocal booth. For whatever reason, I took really well to that song and sang it well, and I think I caught him off guard. So I finished recording that song, we put it out. They decide in the moment um that they wanted to start a record label, which is now Big Loud. You know it's me Morgan Wallin, Hardy J. Cowen, Um, And I was gonna be the first artist on the record label. And they asked me, they said, hey, do you want to go sign to a major record label or do you want to be the first artist on our record label? And I thought about this. I'm like, there's ten artists on these major record labels. Uh, maybe this gets me a lot of attention and focus right out of the gate, which ended up being that way. Um, I record the song, we decided to put it out as a single. I go on a twenty one week radio tour. I found out the hard way from singing fixing for her and a lot of these songs early in the morning was really hard for me to do. Yeah. Yeah, it's just super high and uh I got on radio tour and had to wake up at three am just to start warming my vocal up uh every day, which was a really I mean, that was one of the toughest times in my life. Um it's rewarding now, but at the same time, it's really hard. But uh yeah, right out the gate, Uh, brand new record label, first artist on the record label, I get my first number one. We all kind of know how that goes and how it works. Um. Second single, which a lot of artists during this time frame I feel like fell into was you have that first number one, Um, you you can go out and do all these radio shows, all that kind of stuff, which really helps a lot. Um the second a lot of people fell into this that second single. Um, it's a little bit harder to work, you know what I mean. You're kind of earning the trust of everybody. You can come with hits all that kind of stuff. Uh. I think it makes it to number six, number five something along those lines, which was for her, but still that same style with the falsetta when so for her comes out top ten, Yeah, it's a it's a grind. We get it there, we get a top ten song out of it. Um, you still play that live? Yeah? Yeah. After for her was Broken Windshield View. No. Broken Windshield View was the first song that I ever recorded here in Nashville. When I first got it was that every single. It was never a single, but because I was out on tour Florida Georgia line at the time and Nelly on their like Ballpark tour. Um, I needed a song other than my back in the day, I called myself Chris Lane band, and all I could play were those songs or songs that I had written here in Nashville but never recorded. So yeah, Broken windsheld View was that first song that I put out just to have a song for people to to go home and hopefully download and remember me by since I was being given that amazing opportunity being on tour with uh Florida Georgia line. But there, oh we got it all. Don't worry, there we go everything. That's a throwback, right there? Do you have for her? They hit top ten and the song you did with Tory Kelly was also a top ten song, right yeah? So that was my third single, UM, takee back Home Girl. Uh, I'm surprised that did. Honestly, I thought that was a really good song that didn't get as high as I felt it should happen. Yeah, thank you. Why do you think it didn't? Um? Well, from what we were being told at the time, if I'm allowed to say this, UM, I think because Tory Kelly was considered a pop artist at the time. UM, I think a lot of people weren't necessarily down to play it. UM So I think there were I think there were, you know, ten to fifteen stations that weren't necessarily about it, and that made it tough to get it to number one. We still got a top ten out of it. I think it was number five or something around that. Um. But it has been one of I mean, it's double platinum song. One of my biggest songs in my career and song it's one of those that don't hit number one, But that doesn't hit number one, but people still know they screaming at the shows at the end of the day. That's that's uh truly what matters the most to me. Um And And it helped me take that next little stepping stone in my stepping stone into my career. Well, here we go, another number one eighteen I Don't Know About You? What's your name sound? And you followed it up with another one, big big plans, two in a row. Thank you. So you have to feel now like, okay, I'm not one number one and just a struggle like you got like you got your feet planned it now right? You have to feel that way, Yeah, I mean a little bit. Um I feel that way. I think I Don't Know About You was such a big song for my career and the biggest song uh so far from my career that it really helped me take that next step in a way that I noticed at the shows I was. I went from selling X amount of tickets to now selling out every room that I play in. Um And, I'm super thankful for that song because I actually almost didn't even record it, um, and that would have been a huge thing and missed for me. But yeah, it helped me take that next big step in my career. And then Big Big Plans, which was a follow up, was a grind but it took a while, but uh, it eventually got there and and has been an incredible song for my career as well. That's the last time I saw you. Another thing about it was you and Lauren came in the studio. Yeah, it sure was. Basically wasn't that pretty close to when I put that song out? I think it was because I remember, I think it was right when you put it out. Yeah, and it happened in the most organic, never even tried to make it happen kind of way, which I think is the best. Um. I truly only had that song for her for that moment. I put like a little video to it, um, and I was hoping that people would would like it, But I didn't think in a sense of here's my next single to country radio kind of thought. You know, it was just a just a good moment for us and and now seeing people take it and use it for their own little moment or for me, the best part about. It was watching guys come on to age and propose, propose every single night. Uh was a highlight of my tour and highlight of my night every single night because as you, what was your proposal like in the sense of were you incredibly nervous when you went to do it? Like like I was, I blacked out. I don't even remember what I said. I didn't. I wasn't nervous when I did. I was nervous that I couldn't pull it off because I had really been working. We have a barn we had you did it were away shooting my TV show and we had to move people in before we landed, and then after we landed, I had to keep her busy as a whole of the crew moved into So for me, it was I put in all this work and I wanted to surprise her. So I was nervous that I wasn't going to pull it off. But once she got down and she was shocked, I was like, oh, this is money. How would your meet? Her friend does pr for ABC, And so it was oddly an organic way in a really inorganic time. You know, I dated people I met on apps or whatever, but her her friend that does PRC DPR for me at Dancing with the Stars and an American idol, and so she was like, hey, I'm gonna be down because I went to when Lauren Elena was on Dancing with the Stars. I was going to go support Lawrence. I was in town and she was like, Hey, I'm gonna be there so i'll see you. Come say hi. So I just one said hi, and Caitlyn was with her and she was like, oh, this is my friend Caitlin. We didn't we said hello. That was it. We didn't talk for like four months after that. Oh my gosh. Yeah, so it was not It wasn't We didn't even go were you but in that time frame, were you thinking about her all the time where you're like, man, I really want to I was just like yes, but we didn't talk. We said hello quickly, but did you exchange numbers? Now? But honest to god, this is the truth, and I've never said this the truth. I thought she was way too hot for me and I didn't want to get rejected, and so I didn't pursue it at all because I was like, you know what, she's she lives in laws, but a little I know she's from Oklahoma and just moved to l A to go to grad school. Like she wasn't an l A girl. But I'm like, all right, it's an l A girl super hot, you know what. I don't. I don't feel like being rejected. So I just didn't do. I just didn't. But you're Bobby Bones. Nobody cares, you know, no one cares. And so I finally got the nerve up to uh message her. I was like, because I was going back into town a few months later. I was going to be a guest on some game show called to Tell the Truth, to Tell the Truth, and I was like, hey, I'm gonna be in town. Hey, no big deal if you can't. It's like when you asked someone to do a song, You're like, hey, I know this may be terrible. You say no if you want. And I was like, I'm gonna be in town for one night to do this show. Do you want to uh have a dinner? And she was like yeah, sure. And then I was so late getting out of the recording. I was like two hours late, and I just knew, Oh my gosh, I know, and I was like, I'm so sorry. She I guess okay, I'm over to friend's house anyway, if it doesn't work, whatever, We're all good. And so we met and then we had went to like some chain salad restaurant and I was like, oh, this is different. You just I didn't know I was gonna get married immediately, But I was like same. I was like, oh this this clicks completely different than anything else I've ever had. Was that like you and Lauren? Yeah, same, same exact thing. I mean, I don't know how you were before, but I had the months that I wasn't getting married. Um, I didn't. I think I thought my whole life and and there's a lot of reasons to this, but I didn't necessarily want kids and not like that whole thing. Um, I think, Uh yeah, it was way different. Like obviously when we first met, it was at an I Heart Radio thing in Austin, Texas, like a festival. Yeah yeah, And Lauren was just coming off the show The Bachelor, and she was kind of whatever you want to call engaged to. Uh did she win? She yeah, she won the show. Um, you can tell how much I have no idea. Yeah, I'm like, what she the Bachelor? I'm sure, I'm I guarantee I probably watched that season. I don't remember because it's been so long ago, but um, yeah, I think her and her uh the guy she was engaged to at the time. We're presenting at this festival. So I played earlier during the day on the festival stage, and uh, I was with Tom Pullman at night and we walked over and said hello. Uh, there's a photo from that night as well, where I'm standing beside Lauren and uh. I think Tom's in the middle and then Ben's on the outside, and it was kind of a foreshadowing photo. None of us obviously knew in that moment, but it truly looks like Lauren together in Minnesota. Um. But yeah, four years go by, four years, four years go by, it was that long. Yes, it was that long. Um. And she became single and you guys like, how did you get back in touch with her? I was in l A one night, Um, I think recording my second record, and I had a few days off. I just played a show out towards out towards that way, and we had a few days. We were standing over at Sportsman's Lodge where they allow busses to park there in in l A. And uh, she swears to this day that she has no idea that I was even in town. I think she's lying, but she swears that she had no idea I was there. But she faced timmey out of nowhere. I hadn't talked to her in a long time, and uh, she was like, what are you doing. I was like, I'm in l A. She was like, no, you're not. I was like yeah, She's like, you want to meet up? I'm telling you the fast version of the story. And Uh, at the time, I thought to myself, I mean, yeah, I do, but where are you at? And she was all the way out Marina del Rey, long ways away. I didn't want to get a uber out there. She ended up coming up towards me. We kind of met in the middle. Uh, hung out for a long time that night, had a great time, and uh. Months and months later, I was going on a trip to the Bahamas with a few buddies of mine at this place that we love going to, and I randomly decided to ask her if she wanted to go. She said she'd go if she could bring a friend. We really hit it off on that trip. Continuously called her when I got home, and then I feel like it wasn't that long. Long afterwards, we're hanging out a lot more and you were here though still Yeah, yeah, lying back and forth, you flying back and forth. Yeah. So because I was always out on the road, she tried would hear a little bit more than I went to l a um. Yeah, And then I said, you know what, maybe I should settle down with her. I love her a lot, We have so much fun together. And it was just like you said, way different than anything else I had ever experienced. And when it happened, it happened incredibly fast. I mean I feel like a year later we were dagon engaged and now we're about to have a baby. It's it's nuts and all the things that I said that I never wanted, like I can't wait for now. And I think it does take that that special someone, if you will, to to kind of change your thoughts and and and what you truly want I do to lie to me. It wasn't that I never wanted it. I just I, honest to God, didn't not believe it was real. I thought everybody. I thought people would were just settling and they would have to make up a story to say, oh I just felt it or movies and books, and I was I got to the point where I was, you know, thirty seven years old, and I was like, I've not felt anything like this same and so I really and I said it to her and I proposed. I was like, I never believe that love was real, Like I just didn't. I thought it was something that people just made up to give there. But then for the first time, I was like, bru oh, that's it. Yeah, I mean, it's it's it's weird how that happens like that. I mean, I'd watch my twin brother go through a tough relationship and I thought to myself, good lord, I don't want anything like that. Um, but yeah, this is this is it was just way different. I mean, like you said, And now she's about to have a baby. I heard her pictures on Instagram, like somehow she's able to And I don't know about I've never I don't have a kid yet, right, we probably have a kid in the next year and a half, two years or something, I don't know. But she has maintained physically the normal. Lord. Then her stomach is like seven ft long. It's awesome, but it's crazy. It's why because I've never seen a neck and pregnant lady. Right. So the only thing I ever see are when people are like, look at my belly, and so I'll see Lauren do that and I'm like, wow, she looks great. She looks the same with a yes. I don't know what the right thing is to say, but it's Laura Lauren lawn, big belly, Laura Lauren Lauren. I've said that. It doesn't even make sense to me. Um, but yeah, she's she's carried on. How I mean, we're we're it could happen any minute. Oh, she's it's it's a go time. Yeah, I think her her dude date is is literally right now. So we're we're approaching either gonna have him on the day or maybe a little bit late. And I know she is ready for him to come out. Now. Are you getting uncomfortable for more nervous or excited? I think I'm more excited for sure. Um, I was super super nervous in the beginning. And I'll say this. One of the main I feel embarrassed even say this, but one of the main reasons that I never wanted to have kids is because I'm a germophobe and I feel like every body that I know that has kids as parents, they're always sick because their kids always sick. And I'm like, definitely afraid of being sick. It's just one of those things that I hate more than anything. Um So I built it up in my mind all these years, like I don't think I can have kids because they're always sick and I don't want to, you know, take on that. And I hear like, once you have them, all that kind of stuff, you don't even think about it. You just, you know, kind of like with dogs, like whatever they go through, you you help them out, you know what I mean. You don't even think. You just jump in there and do it. It's weird. I wonder if, and you're way closer to this than I have, because you could have a baby tomorrow tonight. But I wonder if because people tell me the same thing. Man, once you have a kid, it's all different, everything is different. But I used to hear that about love too, and I didn't believe it until it happened. And so I can't personally feel yet how it's going to be to have a kid, and you really can't either. But for the first time, I do believe they're probably right. Yeah, They're right the right and with uh. I've been trying this whole time. Um, I mean kind of on purpose, but not kind of. Not on purpose. I just wanted to be a nice little letter to him when he can understand music. But I wrote him this song recently that I'm thinking about recording UH call. It ain't even met you yet, and it's about the real feelings that as a father I was going through, uh in the moment, and it truly is the most exciting, uh time in my life. And I know I'm about to come into from what all my buddies tell me the most exhausting time of my life. But uh, I've never been more ready for anything in my entire life. You guys are really funny on Instagram? Did she ever was this you? Guys? Did you ever have a dream about you and then you're in trouble when you wake up? Does that ever happen with you, guys? Because that happens with Caitlin all the time. She's not a bad dream. And I'll hear something in the dream and then she'll wake up and I have to like get back to even and I didn't do anything wrong. That's hilarious. It's like her when she's pregnant, does she have any of that, like crazy dreams or anything like that happening? Yeah, I mean no, but she along the way, like just throughout our relationship, I feel like she's definitely had those dreams where she's like, I'm sad and I'm like, what's wrong. She's like, I had a dream last night that you cheated on me, and I'm like, well, I would never do anything like that. Let me play a couple of things here from two thousand twelve. Here is All I Ever Needed from Chris Lane Man, oh my words. From two thousand twelve, Here is Let's ride. Here we go. Well, you're sad. What do you feel when you hear those bag? I mean, honestly so nostalgic, but I'm like halfway embarrassed at the same because it was the first songs that I ever sat down to write. No one ever told me how to write a song, uh with All I Ever needed? It was one of those things that Uh. I was such a big Keith Urban fan at the time. I thought to myself, Okay, that was the first song I ever wrote in my entire life. I sat down with my acoustic, just start playing these chords and and I thought to myself, what would Keith Urban do or what would he say? And and I didn't get it right, not not even close. But that was my take on it at the time. And then, uh, the Less Ride was like one of those songs that, uh, I don't I just my whole life, I've loved that, uh Al Deane style, the Eric Church style, like the rocking guitars kind of thing, um. And that was my take on that. I just sat down and I would play on my electric guitar in my room there and I just started writing that song. And and again, none of these songs are are amazing or great, but at the end of the day, the mind blowing part to me is that I sat down and wrote those, had a buddy record them. They sound terrible, all that kind of stuff, um, but people would show up to the shows and sing them in and it ultimately got me to where I'm at now. So I am, while I am mildly embarrassed embarrassed of those uh, I'm also thankful for him because they got me at this point. I have a bunch of questions that I always make a list of questions before someone comes in, because if the interviews are really not going well, I'm just like, let me just go to the questions. I haven't asked a single one of these, which is a good sign honestly. Um, So we'll do quick answers here because, um, well just because let's see here, what was a better day in your life? Your wedding or winning a championship with recupables? Dang, just just just for my wife's sating my wedding day. Are you still can you still play? I mean you still play ball? Like? Are you? Are you a lead out there? Uh? Out there? Yeah? I mean I mean I can still You know, I played centerfield in college. Um, I can still track the ball down pretty good. Um. And I'm not hitting with an incredible amount of power because I'm a small guy, but um but yeah, I can still hit hit it pretty decent. You you taken a couple, so you're like, hey, do you want to fill in? And I know in l A, weren't you. I would if we're out shooting a show. But I was thinking to myself, because I'll commit no matter what, I'll compete. I don't care what it is saying. If it's tiddley winks or softball, but I haven't. I haven't played ball in in two or three years at all. And I was like, you know what. I would have said yes, but I would have come back hurt and embarrassed. But dang it, I was gonna say yet. I pulled my hamstring numerous amounts of time out there just from I'm like, good lord, I'm getting old out here, but I remember from Uh, it's spent years and years and years ago, but uh, we played in a in a celebrity softball tournament together, and I remember you being awesome. No, awesome, it's not the word like barely holding on to any sort of good. I used to be. No, no, no, I used to be. I'm like, you know what, I'm kind of like Toby Keith. I'm not as good as I once was, but one time, if you get me out there, I could be as good as I used to be. Yeah, Um, you're all d a c L injury, so'll give you trouble one of rains. Um, not necessarily, No, it's just I mean, I haven't experienced a whole lot of pain with that good. Yeah. Like I broke I broke a pinky. It still hurts. If it gets cloudy, I'm like, oh my god, I'm dying. Yeah. Now, I will say this, like from running around out there on the field and stuff like that, I do get incredibly sore for like four or five days afterwards. Um, but I think this age. I saw you on Instagram A posted a screenshot between you and your wife about a clogged toilet, and I think you had her name as. I think her name is Lolo who I don't know. I started calling her that when we first started hanging out, and that's what I saved dr my phone as and I never changed it. Uh. Throughout all this time, you get engaged and Lauren has a ton of social media following because of The Bachelor, Do you get a lot of social media following like residual from her? You know what? I don't know the actual answer to that, but I do think it helped. I mean, the Bachelor Nation is a real, real thing. Um. And even though it's spend all the years ago since Lauren was on the show, um, she's still been able to Uh. Uh. I don't want to say stay in the public eye, but in a way, I don't know what else to call it other than that and and um, I think they've invested in her life and and because uh we're married now, um, I think that maybe makes them invest a little bit into my life as well, just just from her. So yeah, I think I definitely got a little bit of us When we first started dating. I noticed that my uh followers grew really quickly, um, compared to what they were, So yeah, I'm sure I did get some spill over from that. Any of those bachelor h people where they ever mean to you know, I've never had anybody be uh. I mean that there's people who are who are rude and say weird things all the time, but um, I'm usually great about ignoring that it doesn't bother me and not that kind of stuff. But no one was ever rude, And I think the main reason is that they could see that it was real, that we had fun together, that it wasn't fake, none of that kind of stuff. And I think at the end of the day, people do love um real up they want to see people happy. But um, yeah, I think from that end of things, it was it was real from the beginning, and hopefully people saw that. Or I'm an end with this because I know you opened for Garth that he asked you to go out and you did a show before him, so I get it's kind of a two part or one before you play. Does he do you say Heidi Garth before the show at all? Does he come by and say what's up? Yes? And I think, you know, everybody has great stories of Garth Brooks um And and now I know on a personal level why because he didn't have to he went out of his way. Uh. I think I'm allowed to say this, but uh, I get into my dress room earlier that day and there is a whole table full of merch signed by him. And I mean, as a huge fan, that is, you know, obviously incredible. I'm super excited, super pumped. Did not think that he would stop buy and say hello, but him and Tricia both stopped by to say hello, stuck around for a while. We just sat there and chatted and uh, it was one of the coolest moments in my career. And I'll say this he uh he said, I heard you're a card guy, give me your best trick, and and I thought to myself, well, I don't know who you heard that from, but I'm not a car guy. I don't know how to do anything. He was like, well, good because I am. And he put out a decade cards and did this uh and did this card trick that I feel like I had seen people do before, but he was really good at it. He totally like jip me. He got me and uh when he left the room, I was just, you know, smiling ear to ear, thinking this was the coolest thing that's ever happened to me. Sorry about that, and uh uh one of my guitar players that played on the show with me, he was like, I know that trick, let me show you how to do it, and something that I was so mind blown over once I learned. Once I uh figured out how he did it, cracked me up that he pulled that off and actually got me on it. That's funny that Garth Brook comes into the room accused you of being a card guy, only because he knows you're not. He goes, well, I am, and then does a card trick and it walks out. It was awesome. He's the best, though, also are both the best. I also saw one of my other favorite artists, Keith Urban and and maybe he had heard me talk about him uh in interviews before, but I made eye contact right when I first got I just I think I just put out fixed uh. But I made eye contact with him at you know how artists go and do all the radio rounds, all that kind of stuff, um for an award show. And he's across the room and make eye contact. And he walked out of his way to walk over there and say hello to me. And I was incredibly nervous. Um. I remember telling him the story about out uh me going to his concert and I was in this in the row at the time. He would he would do this gag where he would play you look good at my shirt, and he would always make himself or make his way into the crowd. And he walked upon an owl and I just so happened to be. This is before I started playing music. I just so happened to be in the road that he came to. And he gave the guitar, his guitar away to one of the girls in my row a few seats down for man. I'm telling him the story. I'm like, man, you're my hero, Like, uh, you know, you're my biggest inspiration, all this kind of stuff. And he gave me a hug and he was like, buddy, patting me on the back. He's like, buddy, you need to get out more. I listen, We've done an hour. It's been a great hour. Followed Chris. I am Chris Lane. Um hecking far along. Follow Lauren to at Lauren Lane. But this is not about her, however. Tell Arsta Hello, it's funny you guys. You guys are hilarious. We gotta hang out, man, all that hanging you got about a year, that's that. That's but tell her hello, congratulations. It's great to see you again. I know I just haven't seen a whole lot of folks recently. But I'm glad to have you over and good to catch you up with good luck. Thank you man, I appreciate that. And you look good for your dog commercial. Look like fancy. No one ever gets dressed out for this. All right, you guys go check out philled them boots. Follow Chris on Instagram and I will see soon.