Ashley Zavala confronts the lack of transparency at the Capitol Annex Project

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Speaker 1: Eight hundred two two two five two two two is telephone number one. Eight hundred two two two five two two two. Let's go to Adam in Santa Rosa. Adam, Hello, Hey, how you doing, guys?

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Speaker 2: Good?

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Speaker 3: So I was calling about the gentleman who had the seizure and then drove again and crashed again, and you guys were wondering or pondering the scenario. Whatnot? I myself have seizures. I had him from two to eleven, and they came back when I was twenty five, So I take two different times of medication twice a day. Now I drive. I have to for my job, and the State of California won't let me go on I can't get disability, So it's like I'm stuck in a circle of having to drive because I have to work so like and have the medication so I can stay alive. My seizures are massive. There is no going about my day. Once I have one. I don't have multiple day I have one, and I bite through my cheek by pieces off my tongue, so I usually when I wake up, I have to crawl into the shower to bomb all the blood that I've swallowed. But again I'm forced to drive. I'm surprised that this gentleman had a season and was able to drive at all. Again afterwards, even move, I mean, once I'm done, I face planted. I have scars on my face, on my head, so I don't know how he was able to move more. And if someone was even with them in a vehicle, why would they not take over and stop it? So I don't understand. But that's the scenario about why people must drive when they have seizures. They don't. You know, sometimes you just really don't have a choice. I live alone. I've lived alone for about fifteen years. I there is no offiction of me having anybody else drive me, and I gotta work.

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Speaker 1: Well, what does it make sense to me is why the state is schizophrenic about it. If you're not going to give driver's licenses to people who have seizures, then they need to be able to go on disability because they can't drive themselves to their job and they can't get around things that.

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Speaker 2: You need to be able to do.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 3: My neurologists had stated that basically, you know, if you have one, they don't want you to drive again for like six months. Sometimes other times, like in my scenario, they didn't do that. They allowed me to drive again. And I think the reason why some would get disability is because they have say they have a seizure, they get up five minutes, or they have another one. They get up and an hour they have another one. But there's any bus like myself where I have a massive one and I go down, I don't breathe about five minutes convolse massively, and I am surprised they don't allow me to because for my scenario, I could die each time I have one. Like I said, I swallow massive amounts of blood. I've splattered my skull on the concrete and at the Corona House had posting tests of syndrome for three weeks and I was after I was able to make it to the hospital because again I live alone. But I yeah, you're right, I have no idea why they weren't allowed to happen when they feel free to give out money for all the kinds of things. I would love it if my taxes came back to being where I could actually go in this ability. But I'm forty years old, and like again two to eleven, and back when I was twenty five years old, they came back, and my dollars have no idea why they came back. No scarring on my brain for knowing neurosnapsus fire or I mean get eaten away. There's no scarring. My brain's architectually perfect, they said, so completely dark and until they actually able to do tests on a live brain going through a seizure, we're not really going to know much more about them. Well, I'll tell you right, they are pretty schizophrenic about it.

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Speaker 1: I have no medical training, I have no background in any kind of hard science at all, but I did just read that Elon Muss book, and it seems like this is one of these things that AI is going to be able to solve. It may not be today, but at some point in the future, this is exactly the type of problem that AI is meant to figure out.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I'm stuck with the belief that the only way I'm going to leave this planet is more than likely a seizure. I don't think I'm gonna make it till old age. I think of Caesars was gonna end up taking me out.

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Speaker 1: Well, let's hope that AI figures it out and you can fix it and live a long, healthy life.

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Speaker 5: I really hope.

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Speaker 3: So I appreciate that.

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Speaker 2: All right, Thanks for the call start. We appreciate it, all right.

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Speaker 1: One of the stories that we've been covering is the Capital NX project. This is a project to give the state capital a faceleft. That's going to cost a fortune, but there's a lot of secrecies surrounding the entire project. In fact, they have NDAs, so everybody working on the project, even the construction workers can't talk about it. It's been four years since the state has said how much this project will cost. We've seen all of these secret blueprints where they're putting in pathways so the state senators and assembly people can run away from reporters like Ashley Zavalla. And they made the mistake of promising Ashley Zavala that they were going to be more transparent about this when they haven't been. And Zavalla's had enough and she's the best in the business for more on the continued struggle over just trying to find out how much the Capital Annex project is going to cost. Here is KC or A three and Ashley Zavalla.

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Speaker 6: Backtracking on promises to be more transparent.

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Speaker 7: We're taking a.

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Speaker 6: Live look at the state capital tonight. California lawmakers will leave for spring break tomorrow without telling taxpayers how much they're paying for the Capital Annex. That's the at least one billion dollar office building under construction right now behind the state Capitol.

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Speaker 8: Case you are a three political director, astutes of Alla tried to talk with project leaders before they left town.

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Speaker 9: Do you have time to just stop and talk to us about the Capital NX project.

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Speaker 7: Capital NX Project officials.

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Speaker 9: You said earlier that we would have you would be more transparent, refusing to I.

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Speaker 1: Have to go take a picture. Those two are so cranky. They made the mistake of doing the first interview with her. And these are the legislative leaders that are associated with the Capital NX project. A John Blaird, who is a senator, and I forget the assembly woman's name, block up a checko Blanca.

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Speaker 9: Pachecko, refusing to stop and talk. The two lawmakers in charge of the project, Assembly Member of Blanca Pacheco and State Senator John Laird, breaking their promise to be more transparent, a promise they made in this interview in December.

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Speaker 8: This is the first of what we think will be many.

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Speaker 6: We are available in our offices, we are available in our committee rooms, we are.

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Speaker 1: We're available anytime you want to talk to us, Ashley, except for whenever you want to talk to us. Why in the world are they picking a fight with Ashley Zavalla, Because there are some reporters who will just let it go.

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Speaker 2: She is not that person.

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Speaker 7: We are open, we are transparent, and we're here for the public.

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Speaker 9: For years, they have been secretive about the ongoing construction of the new office building for lawmakers and the future governor of California. As we exposed in twenty twenty four, non disclosure agreements are legally forcing thousands of people involved to keep quiet.

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Speaker 1: In fact, the last time that she did this story, she literally went to the construction site and all the constructions like what project.

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Speaker 2: Well, they signed it too, leaving.

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Speaker 9: The public info to only come from these two lawmakers. It's been at least four years since project leaders updated taxpayers on the cost. We file the Legislative open records after quest in August for the monthly reports we know lawmakers are getting from the main construction company, Turner, including their estimated cost to finish the building.

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Speaker 7: The Joint Rules Committee laired and Pacheko Overseas spent months delaying that request, then this month replied to us in writing, quote, the public interest served by not making the record public clearly outweighs the public interest served by disclosing the record.

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Speaker 2: What okay?

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Speaker 1: This from the people who claim to be transparent, And this is what goes on in California all the time. It's like with the fires. We're doing everything we can expedite the process so that these people can rebuild and move back into their homes, and they do everything possible to make sure that doesn't happen. But they say over and over and over again that they're expediting the process. Well, we're now in a moment where words mean nothing because the actions have to match the words, and if the actions don't match the words, then the words are hollow.

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Speaker 9: The public interest served by not making the record public clearly outweighs the public interest served by disclosing the record. The leaders went on to say.

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Speaker 1: That we're serving the public by not telling them anything about this sounds good to me.

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Speaker 9: The leaders went on to say they would give us these key cost records once the building is finished in the fall of twenty twenty seven.

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Speaker 1: I will tell you how much it costs once we're done building it. How does that make any sense? In a one party state, they can get away with it.

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Speaker 7: I confronted both at the state capitol this.

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Speaker 2: Week, right, warning it's about to get ugly.

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Speaker 7: It's at the state capitol.

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Speaker 9: This week, right, But you've promised to provide an update to taxpayers on this project from the beginning of the year.

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Speaker 7: You're about to take your spring break, and only a single love date one. We're going to be doing it on a forty three basis, don't you guys? Have taxpayers deserve to know whatssability? I need you guys often.

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Speaker 9: I followed assembly Member Pacheco into a packed elevator, where she tried to avoid me. Assembly Member Pataco, I have a question about the Capitol Annex project because you've been rejected my interview request for the last three I mean really the last three months. I've asked you three times, So I did.

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Speaker 3: You an update?

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Speaker 7: In December?

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Speaker 10: We had an interview and.

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Speaker 7: You promised to be more transparent and you said you would you.

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Speaker 8: Know you haven't.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I have, and this is what they do.

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Speaker 1: Oh, we're very transparent, but you haven't given us any information.

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Speaker 2: But we're very transparent. We're transparently not giving you any information.

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Speaker 7: You know you haven't. What what update have you provided?

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Speaker 9: Taxpayer provided you all the our requests that you.

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Speaker 7: Wanted, and we know you haven't.

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Speaker 2: They just say whatever. They're not used to this.

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Speaker 1: Imagine if the entire Capital Press Corps was like Savalla, this state would be a very different place.

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Speaker 9: Also avoiding me, Senator laired I followed him up the steps and down the hall He also leads the State Senate's path.

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Speaker 1: This is exactly why they want the annex with the secret tunnels that Ashley can't get into.

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Speaker 9: Also avoiding me, Senator Layir, I followed him up the steps and down the hall. He also leads the State Senate's powerful budget committee. You we waited for him to finish taking his picture before trying one more time.

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Speaker 7: Senator Laird, you have nothing to say.

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Speaker 9: You guys are leaving for spring break and you won't even get the public an update on this building.

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Speaker 7: Senator Laird, we have given you.

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Speaker 2: We have responded to your Laura request.

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Speaker 7: We have denying it.

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Speaker 2: Oh she's great, and you know they hate her so much.

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Speaker 7: We have No, you rejected the main part.

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Speaker 9: No, you did not give me every main thing.

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Speaker 7: You rejected the main part.

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Speaker 9: You rejected the main part of the Laura request, which is.

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Speaker 2: Is this casey or is this reality TV? Boy? He sounds like a cranky old man, doesn't he.

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Speaker 9: Yep, you rejected the main part of the lawa request, which is the turner contract and the monthly updates in the forecast on the.

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Speaker 2: Way, which I have never been given to people until construction is done.

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Speaker 8: We shouldn't have to wait until the end of the construction period or perhaps longer.

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Speaker 7: A junt McGeorge School of Law professor.

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Speaker 1: The thing that's so wild about this is why is this a secret? What exactly are they protecting here? And it could be that you've got a sweetheart deal with a contractor that's connected to somebody who made this project happen. It could be that the bidding process wasn't necessarily fair, but by keeping all of it a secret, they're just adding more and more speculation to this.

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Speaker 2: When they act weird like this, there's usually something there.

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Speaker 8: Have to wait until the end of the construction period or perhaps longer.

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Speaker 9: A junct mcgorge School of Law professor Chris mccayley, questioning how lawmakers are trying to keep cost records under wraps.

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Speaker 1: You imagine in the private sector a developer saying to someone that wants to build a building that I can't tell you how much this is going to cost you. What you do is you tell them how much it's going to cost, and then you say, oh, it's going to cost you more. Yeah, that's a story I've always gotten and it's going to take you way longer than we said it would that too.

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Speaker 8: I think that the official, the state officials here are misapplying exemptions and that this information should in fact be readily disclosable.

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Speaker 9: Governor Gavin Newsom will be out of office by the time the building is ready. He's not involved in the project's day to day decision making. At a press conference Wednesday, he told me taxpayers should not have to wait so long for those records.

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Speaker 10: As a taxpayer, I'm I'm a taxpayer and governor you know reasonably, you know, good taxpayer.

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Speaker 2: And so no, was that a joke. He's so weird it's hard to tell.

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Speaker 1: You really got to only talk to him when he has a drink or two and some oysters in him, he's a little more fun. What do you think he's like five drinks, usually screaming the name Jesse Waters, good.

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Speaker 7: Textpayer, and so no, I think it's not.

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Speaker 10: You're hardly This is an argumentative frame and it's the least I think you deserve it, as I said last time.

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Speaker 1: And then oh the video cut off, because of course it did. But he goes on to say, well, last time, I told you I'd look into it, and my people told me we did. But let me run that up the food chain one more time. That's what they always do. Oh, we'll get back to you. But the longer this goes on, not that that many people pay attention, but it doesn't make anybody in state government look good as to why they keep this thing a secret, specifically when it comes to how much does it cost? And is this even necessary when there is so much empty office space in downtown Sacramento because the unions for the state workers are refusing to go back. Well and think about this. Think about how often you get asked a question like this. You buy a new car, Oh, how much did you pay? I just reserved a room at the Mandalay Bay in Las Vegas. How much did you pay? It's not an out of bounds question. I mean, look, I guess there are certain circumstances where it's impolite, But under normal circumstances, it's a perfectly acceptable question. And when you're spending taxpayer dollars, it is of course an acceptable question. And there's an easy answer. This is the price tag. This is what it's going to cost. And if the answer is I can't tell you, then there's something there. That's the very latest with Ashley Zavala and her crusade to try to find out for you, the California taxpayer, how much the Capital Annex project will cost, and why are you all keeping it a secret? Eight hundred two two two five two two is the telephone number one, eight hundred two two two five two two two.

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Speaker 1: By the way, we're gonna have Royal Oaks, ABC News legal analysts and set Scott our pal from the city of Oakland. He's the host of the Gotham Oakland podcast. Eight hundred two two two five two two two is jellphone number one eight hundred two two two five two two two. Well, we've been covering the saga of sewer Lady all week long. This is a story that was broken by Matthew Seedorf of Fox eleven when he got a tip from his buddy and our buddy, Juan Nala, the Clean La with Me guy. He was cleaning up a street in South LA and saw a woman open up what was a doghouse on top of a manhole and crawl into a storm drain. And at that point Seedorf went out there filmed this. That video went everywhere. We made sure to cover it. It embarrassed the city so much that immediately sanitation grews were sent out there and it was declared a hasmatt seene, a hot zone. They sealed the manhole with concrete because the manhole cover was stolen and sold and sold for scrap. And now, finally days later, the current Mayor of Los Angeles, Karen Bass, if.

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Speaker 7: You're feeling down, if you're feeling blue, let's get help.

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Speaker 1: For you, is reacting to the saga of Sewer Lady, and once again we are joined by Fox eleven's Matthew Seedorf.

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Speaker 11: Welcome to good Night La. I'm Christine devis.

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Speaker 1: Some funky music for ten pm? Is that Sewer Ladies theme song? I think that's the opening theme for Goodnight La.

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Speaker 11: I'm Christine Devine. Tonight follow up to a story you saw first on Fox eleven. A woman living inside a storm drain in South la and now Mayor Karen Bass is reacting, calling it a tragedy. Fox Loves Matthew Pseudo first broke the story is Live in South LA with the update messing.

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Speaker 5: Wal Christine.

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Speaker 12: Since that first story, I've been getting messages from other people with concerns about possibly more people living under storm drains.

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Speaker 1: See this is how it works. This guy gets so many tips. You do one story about a sewer lady, He's getting emails constantly about other sewer men, other sewer women, other sewer people. I wonder if the sewer people have elected sewer elected a sewer mayor.

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Speaker 12: Possibly more people living under storm drains. Neighbors describe this area as a mess new alarming images across South LA. This looks like it was a mattress or something.

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Speaker 2: The key word of that sentence was was or something.

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Speaker 12: Just blocks from where a woman was found living in a storm drain. I'm from what I'm like, how does this area of LA compared to Guatemala?

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Speaker 10: Oh?

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Speaker 1: Man, God, so we've got clean La with me from Ecuador. Ecuador is cleaner than La. This guy's from Guatemala. Guatemala's cleaner than La. What the hell we need some mister clean?

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Speaker 5: I'm how does this area of LA compared to Guatemala?

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Speaker 1: Seriously, if you're running for mayor, just campaign on. I will pick up the garbage. Wan Nala should run for mayor city council at least.

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Speaker 5: How does this area of La compared to Guatemala?

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Speaker 10: Oh?

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Speaker 5: May God better of this.

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Speaker 2: There were people.

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Speaker 12: Living in the storm drain next to your house. Okay, you don't seem that surprised.

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Speaker 2: It's South La.

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Speaker 7: It's kind of l nor boy.

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Speaker 13: I guess.

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Speaker 2: People are so defeated they're just giving up.

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Speaker 5: Tense orb Well, and what.

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Speaker 1: Do you think is the more common denyinator in specifically this neighborhood. These are people that voted for Bass or these are people that did not vote at all.

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Speaker 2: Of those who voted, they voted for Bass, but how many of those actually voted?

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Speaker 12: It's true, tense rbs and philth filled the area of a homeless even tap into utility poles for power or street bites are dark.

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Speaker 1: I do not understand how we can't enforce that very obvious crime that is a fire hazard in a city where the fire department is overworked and understaffed, because it's a crime associated with poverty.

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Speaker 2: I thought we got rid of that guy, put more attention in this area. But you will visit on on our areas like gardena hartor Lingwood. Man is clean, no harmless, not prowling.

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Speaker 1: You know it's bad when lynn Wood is being described as the clean, safe alternative to South La.

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Speaker 2: Time to move for this aria is like a maybe a Netflix series or something.

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Speaker 14: On Monday, Fox Loven exclusively exposed the storm drained shelter to say, has Matt Cruz declared it a hot zone? And now today a mental health team's offered help. But the woman seemed to just keep walking.

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Speaker 1: Of course, because that's how our outreach works. Somebody who's obviously in a crisis, Hey, would you like some help today?

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Speaker 2: Boy? The high cost of housing is a bitch.

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Speaker 1: With all the reforms that we have, with the care cord and conservatorships, how is it not possible to get this woman off the street.

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Speaker 2: Can't do it.

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Speaker 1: They could conservator Brittany for a decade, but you can't do it to sewer lady.

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Speaker 12: And just before the drain was sealed, a witness says another man climbed out.

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Speaker 1: She did say she had a roommate, Well, it sounds like she has many roommates. Maybe it's like Three's company.

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Speaker 5: Las Sanitation Workers didn't want.

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Speaker 1: To come and knock on our manhull. I wonder who the mister roper is down there.

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Speaker 12: Las sanitation workers didn't want to speak on camera, but they say the mayor's office put out a directive this week to go out and check in storm drains for possibly people inside and to clear them out.

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Speaker 8: Oh, it is such a tragedy to find out that there are people in our city living in storm drains.

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Speaker 2: You're the mayor.

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Speaker 1: This is your number one issue, number one, not two, not three, not for number one, and you failed. You think in the last four years she'd have somebody working for her check the sewers.

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Speaker 5: The mayor now responding, saying a drain is sealed.

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Speaker 7: And so I think that people use a variety of different strategies to hide. That is probably by far the most.

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Speaker 2: Tragic that I have ever heard of.

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Speaker 5: If we just go down Grand you think we'll see more people living under.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no hesitation at all.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, especially because it's well, some in South LA feel helpless.

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Speaker 10: It's weird because I mean USA, for me, USA is the best country in.

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Speaker 1: The warm Apparently Guatemala is better.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, not that neighborhood.

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Speaker 5: So there you go.

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Speaker 2: The latest update on the sewer saga in South l A.

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Speaker 1: Well, let's move on to another city having a very difficult time staying clean. That, of course, is the city of Dumpy. You mean Oakland.

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Speaker 7: You know this has really been an issue for the City of Dumpy. Excuse me.

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Speaker 1: In the City of Dumpy, they are thinking about deploying drones to find out where all the illegal dumping is happening and then have the drums call three one one after they press one for English for more.

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Speaker 2: Here's kpix in the bay.

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Speaker 15: So this pile and the pile further down have popped up recently, probably in the last week.

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Speaker 13: Antil Troy is a longtime Oakland resident and community activists and says the issue of illegal dumping is one of the most pressing problems the city needs to address.

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Speaker 15: It's really a public health issue, aside from the obvious trash and blight. I mean we're talking about psychologically what it does to.

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Speaker 7: You, He says.

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Speaker 13: The city just cleaned up this stretch of eighty fifth Street a few weeks ago, and already the trash is back.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't matter if it's people dumping trash or rotting meat or homeless encampments being cleared, they just come right back. Well, and it's like the long line theory, where if you're walking past the place and you see a line out the door, some people just are like, well, I got to see what's going on here. No matter where you live in the Bay, there are some people as they drive through Oakland, they see how filthy it is, then like, well, I might as well pile on.

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Speaker 15: I drive past this every day, and I haven't.

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Speaker 2: What you tolerate, you get more of. That is true.

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Speaker 15: I drive past this every day and I haven't submitted it to three one one. I don't have the time to go around and document all of these dumping sites. It's actually like a shore.

00:28:20
Speaker 13: That's where some council members think AI trash detecting drones from Airbits could help.

00:28:27
Speaker 3: High speeds up to forty five miles per hour and flying at a height of up to four hundred feet.

00:28:33
Speaker 13: This is Airbits founder Brian Johnson in a YouTube video posted by the company where he describes how the drones work. The drone will fly over city streets to detect illegal dumping sites.

00:28:44
Speaker 2: It's not gonna have to fly very far. Nope. I love that has the patriotic music under.

00:28:49
Speaker 13: It, measure them, describe what's in the trash piles, then report it to three to one one for public works crews to clean up.

00:28:58
Speaker 1: But wait, even if Noel Gayo calls three one one, they don't show up. No, they're just going to collect a bunch of information that they're not going to do anything with. This doesn't stop the insane hold up of the baracracy in the city of Oakland.

00:29:12
Speaker 2: Shanghy was a soothsayer. The baracracy is real because.

00:29:16
Speaker 1: What we found out from reporting earlier this year is that let's say you complain to your member of the city council that there's a giant pile of illegal garbage. It's been dumped unless he uses his own staffers to pick it up, which Noel Gaio does and some of the other council people do, they can't call sanitation. Every request has to go through the assidimy the city administrator justin Johnson, and so this one person has to personally approve every single request to pick up.

00:29:48
Speaker 13: Trash, bypassing the need for residents like Troy to go out and make the report themselves.

00:29:55
Speaker 15: Let's get the data and let's get it from a bird's eye view, because none of us can do it, but we have to teach, so Silicon Valley, let's use the tech.

00:30:02
Speaker 13: Council Member Ken Houston says he supports the pilot.

00:30:04
Speaker 2: Oh, we got to get Ken on. Ken's great.

00:30:06
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, council Member Ken Houston.

00:30:09
Speaker 1: We're gonna get Canon just to talk about his beef with Pammy because Pammy don't like him.

00:30:14
Speaker 5: I've been bipped several times.

00:30:16
Speaker 2: That's a badge of honor for him.

00:30:18
Speaker 7: She called me a crime boss.

00:30:21
Speaker 2: Council member, she's still running for da again. Probably.

00:30:24
Speaker 13: Council Member Ken Houston says he supports the pilot program because it could make cleanup more efficient. He says the company has assured them the AI technology does not record any kind of personally identifiable information.

00:30:37
Speaker 16: It's just to capture trash on public right away. It's not to do any type of criminal activity to catch someone dumping. It's just identify to be proactive so they can go out and pick it up faster.

00:30:50
Speaker 5: Houston said, Good luck with that.

00:30:52
Speaker 1: Wait, play that again. He's saying that they're not using the drones to catch people doing it so they can put them in jail, just so they can identif where the trash is so they can clean it up.

00:31:02
Speaker 16: Yes, to capture trash on public right away, and it's not to do any type of criminal activity to catch someone dumping. It's just identify to be proacticate.

00:31:13
Speaker 2: No, no, no, you have to throw them in jail.

00:31:17
Speaker 1: In fact, I think what we do is we take the drones and we have them live stream to YouTube and we just have a twenty four to seven channel, the Oakland Dumping Channel. Or how about this, You collect all the trash and you dump it right on their front lawn so.

00:31:31
Speaker 5: They can go out and pick it up faster.

00:31:33
Speaker 13: Houston says the way to stop the dumping in the first place is to increase penalties for dumping and hold people criminally responsible, which is also part of the comprehensive plan, But Troy questions whether city leaders want the level of accountability a daily drone monitoring system would bring.

00:31:51
Speaker 15: What we're doing is not working.

00:31:52
Speaker 5: I would absolutely love Shanky.

00:31:57
Speaker 2: We need the assist here. You are missed in Oakland, my girl.

00:32:01
Speaker 15: What we're doing is not working.

00:32:03
Speaker 2: I would absolutely love Thank you, Shangy.

00:32:06
Speaker 15: She's the best for that company to come to Oakland because it would really give us more data.

00:32:11
Speaker 13: The city council is considering a six month pilot program to test out the AI drones. The city Council has to make the decision on it at their meeting on April fourteenth.

00:32:23
Speaker 1: So there you go, the potential for the City of Oakland. Excuse me, not the City of Oakland, but the City of Dumpy.

00:32:32
Speaker 7: You know this has really been an issue for the City of Dumpy. Excuse me, to.

00:32:36
Speaker 1: Use drones to photograph all the piles of garbage. Just another normal day here in the insane Asylum.

00:32:47
Speaker 2: Oh my god, it melt to the basketball court.

00:32:49
Speaker 1: Eight hundred two two two five two two two is the telephone number? What eight hundred two two two five two two two. If you'd like to email the show, you can do so. Johnny don't like show at gmail dot com. That's Johnny, don't like show at gmail dot com. Let's go to lesson Pasadena.

00:33:08
Speaker 4: Last, Hello, John, Randy. California is a kleptocracy as bad as the Philippines under Ferdinand Marcos and his shoehoarding wife at Emelda. You've got the Capital Annex project on top of let's see thirteen billion dollars in healthcare for illegal immigrants, seventeen billion dollars for the high speed rail project, twenty four billion dollars per homeless services, and of course, thirty billion dollars worth of fraudulent Employment Development Department benefits that went to criminals, death row inmates, and overseas syndicates. I can't wait until the Trump administration at assisted US Attorney Bill A. Saley come to town and starts snapping on the handcuffs on all the crime bosses in his state, starting with Governor Gavin Newsom. Attorney General Rob Bonta ensure it's Ricardo Vara at close to the hall. Mayor Karen Bass, thank you.

00:34:05
Speaker 1: Now, wait a minute, if you're talking about crime bosses, doesn't that also include Pamela Price.

00:34:10
Speaker 5: She called me a crime boss.

00:34:13
Speaker 4: Oh I love her, Pamela Price. Thank you.

00:34:17
Speaker 1: All right, thanks for the call. We appreciate it. Let's go to Dave in San Pedro.

00:34:22
Speaker 10: Dave, Hello, Hi, John, Randy best three hours on radio anywhere anyway. I wanted to make a comment about the individual that had the seizures and would like fall over and smack his face on the ground and all that kind of but he's got a drive. I don't do siezures. I'm an uber driver. I picked up a guy a month ago that had a dog, a service dog, trained to alert him when he's gonna have seizures. Doesn't stop him from having him, but helps him get prepared for the terrible ride. He's not even going to know what you have. The dog will get in the way to make sure it doesn't hurt himself. I don't know if that guy's ever looked into that, but sounds like it's the kind of thing that he needs.

00:35:10
Speaker 1: I'll tell you, the dogs that are trained to do things like that are amazing because you think about the level of training that goes into something like that, and these dogs are trained to be almost human like to take care of these people who are having these medical emergencies. It's really unbelievable.

00:35:34
Speaker 10: Well, I think they're smarter than humans. I mean, my wife has spent thirty years trying to train me to put the seat down. I can't do that. But this dog can let him know he's gonna have a seizure. You know, it's amazing. I mean, it was a long ride. The guy told me all about it, and it was just amazing that this German shepherd, not just German shepherds, but this dog, could you know, get in the way. He would alert him, he would let him know, maybe there's a medication, you know, throw the I had moments to get himself in a safe place, taking his medicine or whatever it was, and then like not enjoy the ride, you know, because it doesn't stop him from having a seizure, but it preps him.

00:36:13
Speaker 2: All right. Thank you for the call, Stard. We appreciate it.

00:36:16
Speaker 1: And Randy, I wonder how people who have seizures and it's not as if you can identify the fact that they have seizures just by looking at them. That's a problem that you're not really aware of until they have a seizure. I wonder if people give them the side eye when they see them with their dogs, assuming they're like all of these Karens who lie about their dogs being a service animal.

00:36:42
Speaker 2: Hey, what are you looking at me for?

00:36:46
Speaker 1: You know?

00:36:46
Speaker 2: It's wild.

00:36:47
Speaker 1: We got a couple of emails about that. Apparently, if you're diagnosed with epilepsy, you're supposed to surrender your license right then and there until you're evaluated and the doctor says you can drive again. So maybe the guy in Oakland was on medication and the medication just didn't work for some reason. But they're supposed to make sure that you're not able to drive because it could happen at any moment. Anything could trigger that. What he didn't expect was then to get robbed, no, and shot in the leg. Seriously, Oakland, do better. That was a turn I didn't see coming