Hour 1 – NFL Draft Hangover, Louis Riddick

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Speaker 2: We did it. We made it to a Friday here in Pittsburgh. Another great audience here by the way, Pittsburgh last night. Wonderful, wonderful performance by the entire city. The weather was great. Over three hundred thousand showing up. I remember Bill Cower when he was with me yesterday and we went to commercial break and he goes, gosh, I hope some people show up. I said, Bill, they will three hundred thousand last night, give or take a couple of thousand. And I think that stadium seats just over sixty thousand, so you had five times the amount of people that you can put in that stadium. Weather was great, the atmosphere was great, and we got a little bit of a twist there in the first round. We'll talk about that with the rams with Ty Simpson coming up broadcasting from the Distillery Complex in Pittsburgh all week long. Thank you for a wonderful hospitality here, great food, cocktails, cigar lounge, and you know this is where you separate your when you get ready to go home. It's like that's the cigar clothes and then that's the regular clothes. And you try to separate those in your suitcase. But it's been a great atmosphere here, great environment. All of our guests this week receive gift bags provided by Rectech, Panini, Penske, and Dude Wipes. Our stat of the day is always brought to you by Panini America, the official trading cards of the Dan Patrick Show. It is a meat Friday, it was a meat Thursday, it was a meat Wednesday thanks to our folks at Rectech and all of the meat provided by Heartland Steak Cooast. So we have spiced maple bacon candy. We have seared Porterhouse steaks with garlic tallow. No, no, no, not yet, no. Yeah, tallow is what Paul.

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Speaker 4: There with the Pittsburgh themes.

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Speaker 2: Okay, give the audience an idea of what rhyme time consists of.

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Speaker 5: Okay, so rhyme time, there's two clues and then the two the answer to those two clues actually rhyme with one another.

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Speaker 2: Okay, prime time.

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Speaker 5: Okay, Like an example would be particular pigs skin head, particular pigskin.

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Speaker 4: Head or coach. To try to make it a little easier.

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Speaker 5: If someone is particular, they would be choosy, and the pigskin head locally at a university.

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Speaker 4: So I can't make their easy.

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Speaker 5: I can't just hand you the answers so choosey Nardozzi. That's a tough one, particular pig skin.

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Speaker 2: Okay, give me a better one so the audience will care. Like you don't lead with a real tough ones. That's like Jeopardy doesn't give you the toughest question.

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Speaker 4: You gotta go to twelve hundred.

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Speaker 5: Okay, how about paddle boat Dandra fighting steeler?

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Speaker 4: Paddle boat Dandra fighting Steeler?

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Speaker 2: So something pala malu?

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Speaker 4: Right? Like a paddle boat? What took a little boat? You're a big boat main person. Name a type of little boat that you can get in and.

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Speaker 3: Paddle, Paul pontoon?

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Speaker 4: What rhymes with palamalu? That would be a row boat. You've never been on a canoe? Canoe?

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Speaker 2: Me here, we're off to a start.

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Speaker 4: Why is that really a bad clue? A battle about being a canoe.

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Speaker 2: We're trying to attract an audience, Todd, I think you.

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Speaker 4: Guys are purposely playing dumb to make this like just ruin this for me.

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Speaker 2: No, no, I'm not playing dumb.

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Speaker 4: Canoe palm. Now, I got to give you a third one.

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Speaker 5: Blaze Rocky, think local, Flavor Local, think Pittsburgh Blaze, Rocky fire fire Flyer.

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Speaker 4: There you go, you're not helping me sell this at all, and.

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Speaker 2: Hold on, let me, let me let the audience up. More of that coming up a little bit later on cant right. Dylan is here, kind of Raven's hat on. Nobody's taken a shot at you this week? Have they there? You go just orally verbally okay, okay, thank you for clarifying that. Welcome Pittsburgh. They're really nice people. They're not that nice.

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Speaker 1: They're not quite that nice.

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Speaker 2: Paulie is here, Marvin's here, yours truly, and of course the backroom guys as well. A lot to kind of decipher. Here. We'll talk to Lewis Riddick, who was on the draft coverage last night. He played his football at pitt He'll join his coming up, Tom Pelasero, NFL Network, Matt Miller, the draft expert from the Mothership as well. Some of the highlights. It's weird too. I felt bad for Jeremiah Love, and it's weird to feel bad for him. He's going to make more guaranteed money than any other running back in history at over fifty million dollars, but he's going to Arizona. And I thought it was maybe malpractice because once again, you're getting a guy who is great, he's my favorite player in the draft, but you're going to a team that doesn't have a quarterback. I don't know if they have much of an offensive line. McBride is good. You got Marvin Harrison Junior the third, and now you get Jeremiah Love. Now you've got building blocks there. But I thought that Jeremiah Love somebody was going to go get him. He's expensive for running back. But he goes third to the Cardinals. The Ty Simpson situation. I'm going to take you back to yesterday morning. This was probably twelve minutes before the show. PAULI goes, oh, do you see Glazier was on barstool and Glazier said, Hey, there might be something happening in the draft, a big surprise. And I'm paraphrasing. He said, why don't you reach out to him? I said, okay, So I text Jay and I said are you up? Because it was West Coast and I said are you up? He said yeah? And I said, hey, what's going on with the possibility in the first round? Can you give me any kind of breadcrumbs here? And he said, you know, it's blown out of proportion. It's not going to be like Travis Hunter the year before where there's a big trade between Jacksonville and Cleveland. So then at the very end, I go, hey, what are the Rams doing? And he said, oh, the Jeremiah Love thing? Is this smoke screen? And I go, I wasn't asking about Jeremiah Love. I said, I think they're taking ty Simpson at the end of the first round. So there's a pause and he goes, I don't no, what do you think. I'm thinking you're the insider. Why are you asking me this? So I said, I just think they're going to get somebody, and then they'll get somebody at the end of the first round. So you get somebody, now, you get somebody maybe who's going to be in the on deck circle for Matthew Stafford. We see the Rams they take Ty Simpson thirteenth pick, and all of a sudden, I get this text from Glazier. He goes, sho, I was so, and then he put asked a worried that you heard something about the Rams taking ty Simpson. I hadn't heard anything. I just thought they're probably going to come up and get him. And it turns out that that was his big scoopage that Simpson was going thirteenth. Overall, he might be the right guy who's just the wrong time. My thought was, if you get him in the end of the first round. Now I've tried to find this out this morning and I haven't gotten and maybe Tom Pelsero or Lewis Riddy can help me. But it felt like they knew somebody was going to take ty Simpson a whole lot earlier than anybody else thought. I don't know if it was Pittsburgh. I don't know if the Jets would have come back up, the Cardinals somebody. From what I'm trying to glean some information is they had to go up and get him at thirteen. But until you know we have our insiders on there, I don't know that for a fact, yes, Pauline.

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Speaker 3: So the big debate here is the Rams are our current Super Bowl contender.

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Speaker 1: I got the best.

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Speaker 2: They have the best odds this morning from DraftKings right to win the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: And with a thirteenth pick. Sean McVay obviously wants another weapon for next year. Last year, the thirteenth pick was Tyler Warren, the tight down out of Penn State. He had like eighty catches and eight hundred yards. There's impact players available. At thirteen, I got DraftKings.

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Speaker 2: The Rams are the favorite to win the Super Bowl, followed by the Seahawks. Then it's the Bills and Ravens, Chiefs, Niners, Patriots, Chargers, Packers, and the Lions. I don't know what impact these draft picks had yesterday. I do like what Seattle did. They got Jendarian Price. He was the other running back at Notre Dame. Can you find out has there ever been a first round pick who never started a game in his college career? Because I don't think this running back started a game for Notre Dame. But I think they got a great pick because Kenneth Walker goes to Kansas City, you pick him up, and I think that's a great pick for him because he was a that'd be one of those you know when you would have Love go out of the game and Price come in and there was no let up there for Notre Dame. But I don't think he started a game. But I can't remember a first round draft pick who didn't start a game. All right, Dylan, what's the poll question? For the first hour of the program.

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Speaker 6: We got a couple options, Dan, I have one from Todd per usual. I will read it without any changes. The most awkward moment of the NFL draft was an increase sweaty Roger Goodell extended commissioner hugs of selected players dot dot dot.

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Speaker 2: You don't know me like that.

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Speaker 6: Fernando Mendoza accidentally leaving his little brother Max hanging for a handshakeout.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I thought that that was like a corporate off site meeting when I saw Fernando Mendoza and his family, a lot of blazers, awkward white guys shaking hands, and you know, you'd have and his little brother kept he had his hand out for his brother, and his brother totally blew him off, and you're just like, hey, high five. And then it'd be like dap, but somebody's trying to shake your hand. And I was like, and you know, you get up and you start hugging each other. You're in the same room for the last hour. You don't need to introduce yourself to the people you've been sitting there with for an hour now, just like yeah, yes, Paul.

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Speaker 3: I thought the Mendoza family did a good job acting like they were surprised that their their brother went number one of the drafts. They're all jumping around and then they're pulling raiders hats from the cushions of the couch.

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Speaker 2: Not a big surprise, you know, with like a news crew there. Uh yes, Marvin.

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Speaker 7: Roger Goodell, he's been perfecting his death with the players because it's an easy slap hug. Now it could be a cultural divide sometimes with an older white man a younger black people. But now it was slap hug. There's no he's been working on that. Yeah, So good for him, I mean, but he was sweating like brother love in the WWE our handshake's.

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Speaker 2: Over crisp handshakes because yesterday we had a member of the audience. You got a picture after it, African American gentleman who came up and he gave me a handshake. Give you a job in if your hands handshake came to you. Mahrv a man he had started. Yeah, like it was all over you like it was a honeymoon.

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Speaker 4: It was.

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Speaker 7: It's like the Kemp Peel speech, yes, or the skites.

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Speaker 4: Where everyone you know, handshake, handshake. How are you good to meet you? Marv happey black brother. Yeah, jameson Virginia.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, yes, uh, Dylan, I guess we could do the pole question.

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Speaker 6: If you go in for a hand are you doing the classic handshake, A quick dap, a fist bump, the dap hug.

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Speaker 4: Because I get this wrong about ninety percent of the time.

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Speaker 2: I think you just got to be committed right away whatever it is, Like I put the hand out, but I'm more of a dap guy now, I'm like, all right, we don't need to bring it in and any of that stuff. The commissioner does seem a little overly commissioner like, it's just like but he you know, he gets excited there. Yes, uh.

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Speaker 4: I think it also depends on the age of the person.

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Speaker 5: Like a handshake is universally accepted even if it's starting to die out like the dinosaurs. But if like some seventy five year old woman comes over to you, like if we're meeting someone here for a meet and greet, you know, dap would seem like a kind of a weird thing that someone that might be someone's grandmother, you're gonna dap them up.

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Speaker 2: Well, thank you, Ton, that seems you uh, you're the king of uh I know, hugging and awkwardness, hug hugging.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I.

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Speaker 5: Will meet someone for the first time and I'll bring it in. That's I was brought up that way. Not that they don't you don't want to get arrested or anything, but not to the point where they're calling nine one one. But just you know, I just like to show people fetch and sometimes it comes across as inappropriate, which is not the intention.

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Speaker 3: Yes, fall I don't know if it's on Fritzy's poll of awkward moments, but Caden Proctor at the offensive tackle of Alabama when he got drafted by Miami, nobody said anything nice about the guy. They didn't say like he's a great player. Mel Kiper said, career underachiever, still waiting for him to pan out. Nick Saban, this guy used to play underneath him, and he was less than complimentary.

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Speaker 2: It was weird that you're trying to say something. It's almost like it feels like a Musclye situation where you want to say something and then when your compliment is he's huge, Okay, what else He's huge? And I go okay, and then all of a sudden you're hearing mil say something. Nick Saban saying something and they're saying, you know, he's really got to apply himself and you know, keep his weight down. I think was another comment.

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Speaker 5: Yes, Ton, it's tough when they show offensive lineman the highlights in general and they put like the little arrow of a little light on that person, and I know they're doing something significant, but for someone that doesn't play football or it's certainly not offensive line, it doesn't look like anything that exciting.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that big, he should be able to push them backwards for a couple of seconds of the running back and go through.

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Speaker 2: Thank you to the Cowboys got Caleb downs. He seemed pretty excited. Felt like that was do you want to talk about an intelligent football player? A great football player, played at Alabama, played at Ohio State, and Dallas went to get him. And I think that was a great pick. As much as we bang on the Cowboys, and there's a lot of reason to do that, they've drafted pretty well. They've had some pretty good draft picks here. But you know, the big headliner was Simpson going to the Rams. All right? Any other poll questions there for the first hour. Paul sent me one, which is just you seem like you got roughed up last night. Okay, I was actually I was going to address this.

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Speaker 6: So we were here watching the draft, and it was pretty loud in here, so it was either talking over people or the three cigars that I smoked.

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Speaker 2: You didn't look like you were banged up last night. I wasn't look banged up today.

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Speaker 8: I wasn't drinking this morning.

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Speaker 2: Okay, baby steps, Okay, all right, but but you're okay.

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Speaker 8: No, I feel good.

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Speaker 2: It's just my voice is a little hoarse. Okay. And I only smoked three cigars.

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Speaker 5: Yes, I don't want to get too personal, but I kind of like the ras beads mean more thing.

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Speaker 4: We'll get a little close.

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Speaker 2: What did you do last night?

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Speaker 5: I went to Hamburger Harries or whatever touchdown, touchdown, Jesus, what was called home run Harries?

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Speaker 4: And I got a turkey club and a side of chicken tons. And it's a good thing. I got two things.

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Speaker 8: Chicken.

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Speaker 4: It's a separate it's a separate entre. Some people get French for as I got like chicken said, but there was the order. It was. It was fine, it was serviceable.

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Speaker 5: But I was expecting, like you know, when I go to New York, you get a big cornief sandwich.

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Speaker 2: Get where did you watch the draft?

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Speaker 4: I watched a draft in the comfort of a room seven. Not that a job.

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Speaker 2: Okay, room seventeen.

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Speaker 5: You know what's going on to your room now that I've checked out, Just in case sit I knew that yesterday. There's no stalkers, but seven seventeen and the Sherton right there at the Sheraton Square station.

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Speaker 2: You were there by yourself.

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Speaker 4: I was, and I really enjoyed. I enjoyed my time.

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Speaker 8: Whoever's in that room next is in for a rude treat.

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Speaker 5: I had my broncos, a little Zubez pants on and a little soft poster, and I put the TV on.

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Speaker 4: I had my my hot my.

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Speaker 5: Honey mustard for the tenders, a little Mayo for the Turkey club, and I was.

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Speaker 4: Good to go. I was fine.

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Speaker 2: Nobody embraces the city of Pittsburgh quite like you, doo.

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Speaker 5: I went for a long walk on Tuesday after our rehearsal and everything, and then the other days I just we went out for dinner.

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Speaker 4: I was sociable, right.

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Speaker 5: We went it into the Tuesday night and Wednesday night. But at the last night I wasn't in the wood for anybody.

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Speaker 2: We had a draft party last night.

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Speaker 5: I heard that you guys may be coming here for something, but I'm not a cigar smoker.

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Speaker 4: And gets in my face and my eyes stopped burning. I'm like, you know what, I'm gonna just watch it under the covers. I was in bed there like an eight.

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Speaker 2: Seventeen years under the covers.

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Speaker 4: I think definitely by eight there by pick six, whoever had the sixth pick? I was definitely under the covers. I got hot and I took the cover.

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Speaker 2: Their children here, so you you were under the car.

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Speaker 4: I was very comfortable. I had my bronco Onesie.

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Speaker 5: At fifty six, I said, at some point, you got to take responsibility for your own behavior.

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Speaker 4: It's crazy. A lot of people do that.

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Speaker 5: Mom screwed me up. A lot of people do that when they talk to the psychiatrist. But at some point you're like, you know what, I'm an adult and whatever I do, that's on me now.

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Speaker 2: This is Friday, Fritzie. I'm gonna put you on a word count today. Okay, that's fair. I'm going to have to do that, all right. So we're gonna have to have a word count for each hour.

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Speaker 4: Are you saying? I tend to ramble a little bit. I don't get to the point. What do we say?

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Speaker 2: Great crowd here in Pittsburgh, Sun's out. You got Day two of the draft coming up tonight. Wonderful performance by the city. Stat of the Day is always brought to you by Panini America, the official trading cards of the program. I asked the question. It wasn't a rhetorical I didn't know the answer because Jeddarian Price goes to Seattle first round pick, but I don't think he had a career start at Notre Dame, And I was wondering, when's the last time we had a player without maybe a career start. Did Josh Jacobs start at Alabama?

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Speaker 3: He was mostly a backup Harris Damien Harris.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I don't. But Josh Jacobs was a first round pick, wasn't he?

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Speaker 3: The other one I would say is Ronnie Brown and Cadillac Williams at Auburn. Cadillac Williams got most of the carries. Ronnie Brown was a first rounder, I think, and he had much fewer carries.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, big day. Ray just sent me a note. Josh Jacobs got playing time. He was the backup to Damian Harris. He had a under seven one hundred yards rushing final year at Alabama. Selected twenty fourth by the Raiders. But I don't know. It was just one of those weird stats or facts that here's a backup running back going in the first round to Seattle. Lewis Riddick of the mother Ship. He covers the NFL and college football. Former front office executive with Washington and Philadelphia. Please welcome our good buddy, Lewis Riddick.

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Speaker 4: What's up, guys?

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Speaker 1: How are nice to see it?

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Speaker 8: Dam Pastrick? Hoorri sirs? Toil this down here?

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Speaker 1: How about that hell to pit?

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Speaker 2: All right? Look at you? You got all kinds of gear. You came in looking like shaft.

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Speaker 4: You know what I.

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Speaker 10: Figured I didn't want to wear my typical Lulu Lemon and you know, I said, you know what for my guy deep, I'm here in my city here where that you know where I spent some really good years.

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Speaker 2: Got your leather jacket up all that.

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Speaker 10: You know what, this this is one of my you know, I bought this at an airport, right. I bought this at the Newark airport. They had they they helped They've opened they opened some high end like shops. There was like a Boss a Boss clothing store and I was in there like six thirty in the morning. They were just pulling the gates up and I was like, give me that coat and the guy was like, we're not open.

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Speaker 8: I was like, give me that coat. And I bought it now. And now my wife is like, you wear that thing everywhere?

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Speaker 4: Yes, you could have been in jobasy.

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Speaker 8: You never know, man, this bald head and stuff. Yeah, I am dating myself a little bit.

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Speaker 2: How you feeling good?

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Speaker 8: Just tired? You know, it's it's.

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Speaker 10: There's so much emotion from last night. I mean that crowd was ridiculous. Three hundred thousand people. Are you kidding me?

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Speaker 8: You work so long Dan to get ready for this.

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Speaker 10: You know you you basically It's something that I started doing back in September. And then the night comes and goes so fast, but you're so locked in for three four hours that you want when you get back to your hotel. I mean, you're just exhausted, and I just I mean I took a shower, fell right asleep, and today's even longer. But this is the draft is one of the coolest things that the NFL's got going.

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Speaker 2: All right, how surprise? Where did your surprise begin?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 10: Man? I think surprise wise, And I think there's no question that ty Simpson pick probably caught everyone off guard. It did, not, to be honest with you, catch me off guard. I talked to his father January February, and he was trying to decide if he wanted to go back to school because Miami. He wanted him to hit the transfer portal and come down the quarrel gable.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, six and a half million dollars.

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Speaker 10: And he was told at the time, He's like, hey, man, you need your son needs to declare he's going to go in the first round. And he stuck to it, and the team that quite honestly really liked him the most picked him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I can like the player. I don't like the pick. I don't like taking him that high. Yeah, I want to know. There had to be some intel and this felt. This is a less Snead draft pick. This is the dam because if I looked at the body language of Sean.

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Speaker 8: People have been looking at that.

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Speaker 2: That didn't didn't sound Yeah, it looked.

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Speaker 10: It looked like Sean was sitting there and going. You know, I could have used a bunch of other positions other than quarterback. But that's what Less's job is. Less His job is take care of the football team, though short and long term.

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Speaker 2: I thought Rabel looked more comfortable in front of the microphone than Sean McVay did last night.

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Speaker 8: I'm not touching that.

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Speaker 2: Somebody, somebody had to want Ty Simpson to go up that hot.

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Speaker 8: It was Less.

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Speaker 2: There's no no what other team?

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Speaker 8: Well, you know what I I don't. I don't necessarily believe that.

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Speaker 2: You don't think if he was there with no I.

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Speaker 10: Think I think sometimes from what I was told, Pittsburgh was not going to take it.

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Speaker 8: Regardless if he was there.

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Speaker 2: They needed help on the offensive, right, they.

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Speaker 8: Weren't gonna take him.

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Speaker 10: They weren't gonna they They kind of I think they felt a little a little regret over how the Kenny Pickett situation turned out, and they knew like a lot of the backlash that they got for that pick was that maybe some people didn't think Kenny was the first round pick in the first place. And I don't think they wanted to go through that. Again, I don't think they wanted to deal with that kind of speculation.

00:24:19
Speaker 2: Yeah, but the Rams are winning now. I got DraftKings has them with the best odds to win the Super Bowl. Yeah, okay, Jordan Love worked out for the Packers, but the you know, Ty Simpson doesn't help the Rams. If he's helping the Rams, that mean Matthew Stafford got hurt. Yeah, I don't understand.

00:24:36
Speaker 8: But see there's you know here, here's the other thing.

00:24:38
Speaker 10: And I understand the first round pick is something that obviously you expect to get immediate return on investment. There's a lot of time left and offseason they can still do things in order to help this football team short term. While at the same time, now, remember remember last year, before the season started, we didn't know if Matthew was going to play. Who's to say that something couldn't flare up on him in the next three and we hope. He's one of my favorite people, so I'm not wishing bad things on him at all. But Less is trying to take care of the future while at the same time feeling as though they've done some great work with the veteran Tree Agency market for them to take both of Kansas City's corners to trade for Trenton Jayalen Watson, I mean they that was their number one need now I know. This off season, they've also they've also floated around and kind of flirted with trade and Davante because they thought maybe they could be in on the aj Brown sweepstakes, which he's going in New England. Yeah, but they were trying to get him too, So yeah, they they've been very very active.

00:25:36
Speaker 2: But Okay, Dante Adams is thirty four, right. You had Lemon.

00:25:41
Speaker 8: There there, true true.

00:25:44
Speaker 2: I mean, you had some weapons there, doubt, And Sean loves shiny toys on offense.

00:25:49
Speaker 8: No doubt.

00:25:49
Speaker 10: And I think there there was probably a lot of real good discussion and probably some heated discussion in that draft room about what they should do. But from what I gather, I think I think it was Adam who reported it.

00:26:03
Speaker 8: Somebody did. I don't know if it's Adam or Peter.

00:26:05
Speaker 10: They said that that Sean called Matthew before they before they picked him and told him, look, this is the way we're gonna go with it. So I'm sure it's something that's gonna need, you know, some massage.

00:26:16
Speaker 2: Go through a little more respect than the Packers did. Aaron Rodney, Yeah, like to say the least, hey turn on the draft, we're going to take another quarterback there to.

00:26:25
Speaker 8: Say the least. But you know what, this is the perfect place for Tysons.

00:26:28
Speaker 10: I agree he is going to I said, you know me, man, I like to make big declarations because I'm kind of a convicted person when I when I really believe something. He'll have a decade long career in that organization. If Sean sticks around and they just continue, this is the.

00:26:46
Speaker 8: Perfect, perfect, perfect spot for him.

00:26:50
Speaker 2: I was, as weird as this is going to sound, he could have a better career than Fernando Mendoza. That's given the situation.

00:26:58
Speaker 8: I don't disagree with that that it could happen.

00:27:01
Speaker 2: That way, but this is what I thought, and once again I have no intel on this. It felt like Les Snead is saying I'm gonna be around here for a lot longer than Sean McVay is going to be. Sean might be a let's give this one more shot and then I'm gonna do some TV here. Is that Is that fair to say that?

00:27:20
Speaker 10: Yes, it's it's funny. Look, this is why I love you, man, this is why I love coming on this show. I was just saying that downstairs, what I was talking about. I was like that, that's what That's exactly what it feels like. Ok, Hey, Sean, I respect you. You're one of the very best, and he is. But I have a feeling that you know that that less feels as though he's entrenched in that organization. And look, the runway for GMS is obviously is always longer than coaches anyway. I mean, Marvin Lewis told me that a long time ago when we were both in Washington and I really was thinking about getting into coaching. He said, stick with front office. He said, this coaching businessman. Although he went on and what coached thirteen years for the Bengals. Yeah, but that's exactly what it's probably telling you, Like, he knows that, Hey, him and Stan Crockey, we're good.

00:28:03
Speaker 8: You do what you need to do. Sewan is without a doubt going to go.

00:28:06
Speaker 10: Sawn has Hall of Fame caliber coaching, you know, acumen, but he's also a dude who you could just kind of You can see he's got so many people who want him to do so many things.

00:28:17
Speaker 8: He's not hurting for opportunity.

00:28:19
Speaker 2: Talking to Lewis Riddick of The Mothership covering the draft last night, help me understand this. It feels like every year you get teams who look at the tape yep, but then they look at the measurables. So Ruben Bain, when I watched him play in the playoffs last year, was the best player on the field most of the time. Well, he's got short arms and he didn't run at forty. Therefore he's going to slide a little bit. I don't understand. Help me understand that the tape doesn't lie, does it?

00:28:52
Speaker 8: No?

00:28:53
Speaker 2: Okay, measurables lie or deceive.

00:28:58
Speaker 10: Measurables give you comfort in the event that the player doesn't work out, that you don't get fired.

00:29:05
Speaker 8: That's what they do.

00:29:08
Speaker 10: The draft is about. It's really a risk assessment exercise. So for Reuben bayin right, if you take him inside of the top ten.

00:29:18
Speaker 8: If he works out, you're a genius. You watch the tape.

00:29:21
Speaker 10: You know football, even though there's people going he's got thirty inch arms. If he ran a forty, he'd probably run about four eighty five. He only weigh two hundred sixty three pounds at the combine. These guys don't work out in the NFL. But he worked out for you, So you must be pretty damn good picking players. That's great now, and so you could sit there and pat yourself in the back now. But see, that's not how gms think. They think what if he doesn't, because then the owner is going to come to me and go, guys who are this short, that arm length, run that slow.

00:29:52
Speaker 8: There's a history of them not succeeding in the NFL.

00:29:54
Speaker 10: Why would you do that? Why would you put our organization at risk? Knowing what the objective debt that showed.

00:30:00
Speaker 8: You you're out here. That's what happens people.

00:30:04
Speaker 10: The higher up in the draft you go, you want to check every box possible that in the event that it doesn't work out, you can sit there and go it wasn't me, it's the player. That's why Russell Wilson slid. That's why Aaron Donald slid the thirteen. Donald was the best player in that draft by far, by far, But why did he fall Because he was only six, He only had thirty one inch arms, even though he won every freaking award in college football, and right now is maybe it's gonna go down as maybe one of the top two defensive players in the history of football. But they didn't want to take him that high. And that's why because in the event that you're wrong, you want to be able to say it wasn't me.

00:30:44
Speaker 2: Give me the draft strategy that you didn't like.

00:30:49
Speaker 8: Oh strategy.

00:30:52
Speaker 2: I don't think there was okay with the Cardinals taking Jeremiah up.

00:30:56
Speaker 8: Yeah, you know why. And I knew you were gonna go there when I was sitting here running this through.

00:31:01
Speaker 10: My head simply because I don't I've had so many coaches, and it started with James Franklin, like two years ago when I was out at the we were down at the Peach Bowl and they were playing Ole Miss and I was talking to them about team construction, and I was like, what's the number one thing? What's the most important thing in teams construction?

00:31:20
Speaker 8: Right now?

00:31:20
Speaker 10: When you're talking about building rosters, whether it's in college or pros. What is it he goes offensively, I don't care where I get it. I need explosive plays because it's too hard to drive the football eight nine ten plays a drive and to get points, whether.

00:31:37
Speaker 8: It's college football, high school pros.

00:31:39
Speaker 10: I need guys who can win games if we stink up the joint for fifty nine minutes of a game. A guy who can win it on one play. And I was like, where do you care where it comes from? Because I don't care. Just give me a weapon. That's what Jeremiah Love is.

00:31:52
Speaker 2: No, I love him, but I don't like the quarterbacking situation. I don't know about the offensive line. Tu It's kind of like Ashton jen Gee with the Raiders wasn't a good offensive line that's didn't have a quarterback. And I don't know if he's you know.

00:32:06
Speaker 8: There's a there's a couple.

00:32:07
Speaker 10: Yeah, you know what, And I and I like that Ashton and Jeremiah are totally different.

00:32:11
Speaker 2: Though, oh he's my favorite player in the.

00:32:13
Speaker 10: Draft, and and and here's the other thing too. The situation in Vegas was just messed up, you know, Chip Kelly Pee Carroll it wasn't gonna work.

00:32:22
Speaker 8: It just wasn't. John didn't.

00:32:24
Speaker 10: They didn't do a good job of building that offensive Monty Austin Ford has a lot of work to do. But you know what else Jeremiah Love is gonna do. He's gonna like make that fan base go. Look, we need to go to the games, we need to buy some.

00:32:34
Speaker 2: But I want to see greatness. It's it's like, you go, hey, there's Giselle, but she's wearing a burka like that. I want to I want to know what. I want to see her.

00:32:42
Speaker 10: But I mean, look, a lot of people had mocked guys like cc Malwinoa tackle from Miami to that spot. You think anybody's coming to the State Farm Stadium to see CEC Malwinoa. They're going They're not going there. They're like, who cares, They're gonna go. Jeremiah Love, I'm buying that jersey. I want to see what this kid looks like. And as we all know, it's a business too, I know, and that's Hey, I love the kid.

00:33:05
Speaker 8: I love him. I think he's gonna they'll get it right there.

00:33:08
Speaker 2: I think, Okay, give me the big You guys had to be hoping Ty Simpson fell into round two, and you could have had a schudor Sanders situation.

00:33:16
Speaker 4: Right.

00:33:16
Speaker 10: I had enough of that last year arguing with mel No. I actually I wanted it to happen just like it did, because now we're going to talk about it again today. There's some good players who are still on this board already.

00:33:30
Speaker 2: Give me three players that you go remember these players when I come on next year for.

00:33:36
Speaker 10: That were drafted last night. No, you mean that'll be drafted today. Yeah, okay. Let's see Denzel Boston, wide receiver from Washington. He is if you remember Marcus Colston when he was in New Orleans, that's what he is. But he's maybe even bigger and faster than that. Trading Stukes, the safety from Arizona. This is a guy who most.

00:33:56
Speaker 8: People know who he's trading Stokes.

00:33:58
Speaker 10: I'm just telling you about six foot hundred and ninety five pounds fourth. He is absolutely lights out as a safety, lights out. And there's another guy from Miami named Keante Scott who plays defensive back.

00:34:13
Speaker 4: One.

00:34:14
Speaker 10: He's one of my top five favorite people in this draft, an absolute monster.

00:34:19
Speaker 8: Those three names.

00:34:21
Speaker 10: If you just go ahead and talk to football with your friends, you'll look really smart. If you mentioned those guys names in a couple of years ago, they're gonna be like, hell'd you know that guy? No, I'll be because you were here on Dan Patrick.

00:34:31
Speaker 2: I don't think that mel Kiper would ever describe Jeremiah Love as Giselle Bungen Anna Burka playing in the air.

00:34:40
Speaker 11: Now.

00:34:40
Speaker 2: I could be wrong, but I don't think you get that kind of analogy. No on on draft night.

00:34:45
Speaker 8: No, you wouldn't. Maybe you should come and join our desk.

00:34:48
Speaker 2: There's way too many people up there already, way too many.

00:34:51
Speaker 10: It's so fun, though, man, I mean, I absolutely love look the draft. It's wild coming back here to Pittsburgh and doing the draft because when I was draft in ninety one, it for about fifteen years just haunted me. I hated the draft every year that came around because I went in the ninth round. And I probably should have left school here when I was they don't even have a n I would have been a free agent. I would have been a free agent. I should have left here when I was a junior. I would have probably went into the first, top of the second. I had just an absolute crap senior year, and so the draft was always something I hated and to come back here now with to do the draft, and the draft changed my life at ESPN eleven years ago. It's kind of a full circle moment. It's really cool. It's it's it's super cool.

00:35:39
Speaker 2: I appreciate you getting up. I know you had a long night, and thank you for joining us all year long.

00:35:44
Speaker 8: You know what I love coming here.

00:35:46
Speaker 2: He's Lewis Riddick of the Mothership. Our play of the day is up now.

00:35:50
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00:36:05
Speaker 2: Play. This is the play of the day.

00:36:08
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00:36:10
Speaker 1: So I gotta drive in the air pretty deep to left center.

00:36:12
Speaker 8: I don't think anybody's gonna get that. That's way back and it's.

00:36:15
Speaker 11: Off the wall in play, and that's gonna clear the basis.

00:36:19
Speaker 8: All three runners are going.

00:36:20
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00:36:35
Speaker 2: Oh break up. The Mets, Mets Radio Network, the victory helped the Mets earn their first series sweep of the Giants, and doing so in early April. That's your play of the day. Play of the Day brought to you by True Green. Don't waste another weekend doing your long care yourself. Partner with the official long care treatment provider, the PGA Tour, and get a golf course quality long the easy way. Sign up at truegreen dot com and then sit back and relax. I have the DraftKings Odds. The Offensive Rookie of the Year. Jeremiah Love is number one, Carnell Tate two, Fernando Mendoza three, Jordan Tyson four, and Makai Lemon is fifth. On your offensive Defensive Player of the Year the Jets, David Bailey, Sonny styles, Our, Belle Reese, Ruben Bain Junior, and then Caleb Downs and as I mentioned at the beginning of the show, Super Bowl Odds have the Rams as the favorites right now, followed by the Seahawks, then the Bills and the Ravens, chief Sneiner's Patriots, Chargers, Packers, and the Lions. There was a moment last night when Mike Greenberg, hosting the draft for the Mothership had the commissioner on and he did ask about Mike Vrabel and the Patriots. Now I was surprised, but you know, Greeney probably thought I got to ask this question just so people unders And you know the conduct detrimental policy, How does it apply to a coach instead of a player? Is this conduct detrimental? It's detrimental to a marriage, but I don't know if it's detrimental to the NFL. And then Mike Rabel, the Patriots head coach, talked to the media last night.

00:38:20
Speaker 12: I take accountability for my actions and the actions that caused a distraction to the people that I care most about, my family, this football team, the organization, and our fans. You know, my previous actions don't meet the standard that I hold myself to.

00:38:40
Speaker 4: They don't.

00:38:42
Speaker 12: And what I believe is best for the two most important things in my life, my family and this football team, is for us to take the necessary steps to work together and to give them what I told them i'd give them, which is the best version of me.

00:38:55
Speaker 2: And that's what we're going to do.

00:38:57
Speaker 12: And that's going to start. That has started, it'll continue this weekend, and it'll continue for however long it takes for me to give them and to complete that promise of given giving them the best version.

00:39:11
Speaker 4: Of me possible.

00:39:13
Speaker 2: Certainly it was a good thing he made the Super Bowl last year, I would think. But if I'm him, I stopped talking. No need to talk about it anymore. Just concentrate on your team. The problem I would have as an owner is is he loose with the information that he shares. I would be worried if I'm in the locker room of what he would be sharing. If he shares with other reporters, like he reportedly did with Dina Racini, like that would be the football part of this, the other salacious stuff that's between him and his wife, Diana Rossini and her husband. But I will say this all could have ended if somebody did provide a picture of the other women who were supposed to be there with Diana Rossini at this resort, or if he had buddies who were there. There are no pictures. If you say you're there on a girls you know weekend, give me a picture, bring some girls in. Let's see if you were actually having and nobody provided anything. I would hire girls to take a picture there, just to say I was there with girls. You know, well, I couldn't say that I was there with guys.

00:40:22
Speaker 3: Yes, Paulin, go to the hotel bar, find a couple of girls who had a couple of cocktails. They want to get ap stelviy.

00:40:27
Speaker 2: Yeah you're in the clear. Yeah, but that's where if I'm Mike, I just stopped talking here. I can't imagine Diana coming back from this to be any kind of NFL insider, any information jobs that you know, and maybe Barstool would hire her. She's been great when she was on the show with us. But I don't know if you can shed this anytime soon. And it's unfortunate. It's unfortunate because kids are involved with this. Grown ups do stupid things. I feel bad for the kids.

00:41:00
Speaker 4: Yes, Marv, is he going to have a shorter leash in New England because of this?

00:41:04
Speaker 8: Or no?

00:41:04
Speaker 4: Is If he keeps winning, it's all good.

00:41:08
Speaker 2: I think in our sports society, when you win, it's the great elixir. It covers up a lot, it's one big bandage.

00:41:15
Speaker 3: Yes, Paulie, you always say the deodorant of winning. But he's a legendary as a player, he's a successful coach. I don't know if this is playing the same locally as it's playing national.

00:41:24
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if he's going to get interrogated by the local media. You know, they're probably like, hey, just keep winning, you know, but how does this affect you? The ownership sharing information? That's would be the one thing that I would want to know about. And did you tell him it only happened once? And now you have to go back and say, you know what, I lied, It happened again. Tom Pelsero, NFL Network insider, will join us. Coming up. Matt Miller, the draft expert at the Mothership, will join us as well. One Hour in the Books on this Meet Friday, Fritzy, Dylan, Paulie Marve, Your's True and a great crowd here in Pittsburgh