Metal Gear Solid Delta: Snake Eater Release Date Leaks

<v Speaker 1>Don't be bad. It's the Internet. You're busy. Let's do
<v Speaker 1>this for February sixth, twenty twenty five. For the next
<v Speaker 1>hour or so, let me help you sort through the
<v Speaker 1>world of gaming on Game Mes Mornings Live with me
<v Speaker 1>Jeff Grubb. Today, Konami is busy as a Newcastle Vigne
<v Speaker 1>may get announced later this year, and we may we
<v Speaker 1>do finally know when Metal Gear Salad Delta is launching.
<v Speaker 1>But first please join me in welcoming today's co host,
<v Speaker 1>the Game Mess Mornings. It's Jan A Joa. Everybody, Jan
<v Speaker 1>how are you doing?
<v Speaker 2>I am doing completely okay. I'm trying to fight off
<v Speaker 2>the sickness. So I'm just eating ginger now grub wa.
<v Speaker 1>You gotta fight off the sickness. I think that's how
<v Speaker 1>that song goes. Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm not getting down with it. I'm staying far
<v Speaker 2>away from shit.
<v Speaker 1>Uh pretty good though. That was a pretty good one. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>it's every it's everyone. They canceled school again today, not
<v Speaker 1>because the teachers were sick this time, although I bet
<v Speaker 1>they still are just now. It's we're covered in ice everywhere,
<v Speaker 1>but I bet they are happy to have an extra
<v Speaker 1>day to let everyone sort of bounce back. The kids
<v Speaker 1>have gone from like upset tummies to like, you know,
<v Speaker 1>needing the bucket next to them all non stop, to
<v Speaker 1>fevers like that stopped and the fever started, and then
<v Speaker 1>the fever stopped, and now they're both coughing. So it's
<v Speaker 1>just one thing after another and walking walking pneumonia. So
<v Speaker 1>how you say that. I never know how to sit
<v Speaker 1>because there's ammonia and pneumonia and I don't know to
<v Speaker 1>see either one. Yeah, they either way. They are walking
<v Speaker 1>around with a lot of just flim and and all
<v Speaker 1>kinds of nastiness happening. So it's been fun over here.
<v Speaker 1>I so far have mostly ignored it. I've mostly been
<v Speaker 1>able to, like, I feel a little down in the dumps,
<v Speaker 1>but I'm fighting it off.
<v Speaker 2>So hopefully we get through this gin. We will get
<v Speaker 2>through this grub. I have a very short work assignment
<v Speaker 2>coming up, and I am not missing it.
<v Speaker 1>Yo, No, you're gonna make it happen.
<v Speaker 2>I'm not gonna get sick, That's what it is. And
<v Speaker 2>I know that as soon as I said it, I
<v Speaker 2>up the chance of getting sick. But I'm eating so
<v Speaker 2>much ginger grub my throat is burning.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, and that's what you want. That's ill how you
<v Speaker 1>fix most things.
<v Speaker 2>If I got to pull out half a raw onion
<v Speaker 2>and eat it, I'm gonna do it.
<v Speaker 1>That just sounds tasty at this point, that sounds really good. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>it's going over here, and I am like, Okay, the
<v Speaker 1>ice is outside, so I was gonna go for my walk,
<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, as soon as I stepped outside, I
<v Speaker 1>was like, oh, I will die if I try to
<v Speaker 1>walk on this sidewalk. So back inside. It's been a
<v Speaker 1>rough winter. I don't know. I guess I'll just hang
<v Speaker 1>out and play video games inside. That seems to be
<v Speaker 1>working for me. Just fine. There's a lot coming out
<v Speaker 1>right now. Jan have you like picked a game recently?
<v Speaker 2>I picked up one thing on Fantasy Critic. I meant
<v Speaker 2>to pick up more, but then I'm realizing how I
<v Speaker 2>don't want to overload on games now. And yes, I
<v Speaker 2>just kind of went a wait for the rest of
<v Speaker 2>the year, but I did. I am checking out a
<v Speaker 2>game that is out today called Keep Driving. I've seen
<v Speaker 2>some folks in the GB chat chime in about this.
<v Speaker 2>I think this is a very grub game.
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna check this out.
<v Speaker 2>Imagine Oregon trail grub okay, inventory management allah, a resident
<v Speaker 2>evil all right, and just vibes and driving.
<v Speaker 1>Vibes, vibes and drives. Okay, I'm looking at this right now.
<v Speaker 1>Positive on Steamy cjy develop It Pixel Graphics, Atmospheric Adventure RPG. Yeah, okay, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>look at this. This looks like a road Trip RPG.
<v Speaker 1>This was when I was a kid. I always was like,
<v Speaker 1>that's the kind of video game I would make if
<v Speaker 1>I were older. Seeing something like this that definitely triggers
<v Speaker 1>me in a positive way.
<v Speaker 2>I I know that we're we're standing right at the
<v Speaker 2>edge of the cliff with all the games coming out grub. Yes,
<v Speaker 2>for whatever reason, I feel compelled to try and figure
<v Speaker 2>out a way to play nineteen ninety one's I believe
<v Speaker 2>it's ninety one police knots Okay, yeah, we can make
<v Speaker 2>that happen, right.
<v Speaker 1>That's a Headao coach of a joint, right, yeah.
<v Speaker 2>It's a Kojima joint. I don't know why. Someone had
<v Speaker 2>said it in chat earlier this week somewhere, and then
<v Speaker 2>it just like it has just been infecting my brain.
<v Speaker 1>I've never played that or Snatcher, Yeah, that's those are
<v Speaker 1>the two that like they're like visual novels, slash f
<v Speaker 1>and v cut seene heavy like storytelling games. It doesn't
<v Speaker 1>really matter, you just want to play it.
<v Speaker 2>Huh. Yeah, yeah, it's vibes okay.
<v Speaker 1>I mean police snots always had a cool look to it. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>like it was from my head. I'm like, I think
<v Speaker 1>that was on Sega CD. I'm sure it was on
<v Speaker 1>a million other things in Japan though, So yeah, and
<v Speaker 1>I bet there are some like pretty good like modern
<v Speaker 1>fan translations and stuff of that, like that is that
<v Speaker 1>as well?
<v Speaker 2>Gotta be?
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, or we could just we could just learn Japanese?
<v Speaker 2>Why not both?
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? There we go. Okay, Well, I'm like invested in
<v Speaker 1>making this happen now, jan let's see if we can
<v Speaker 1>get on top of that. I would I would love
<v Speaker 1>to see it. In the meantime, though, let's explain what
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<v Speaker 1>we have a lot to get into, so let's start
<v Speaker 1>the Morning Mess with porting powerhouse. Iron Galaxy is laying
<v Speaker 1>off staff in what is regarded as a last resort.
<v Speaker 1>This is from Ben Lions at Game Reactor. The layoffs
<v Speaker 1>waves a wave across the video game sector continues to
<v Speaker 1>affect more and more people. On top of the round
<v Speaker 1>of additional layoffs there are rumored to have been that
<v Speaker 1>are rumored have affected PlayStation again, which is another thing
<v Speaker 1>that's happened recently. Those are rumored, not really exactly sure
<v Speaker 1>what's happening there yet, but those are rumored to be
<v Speaker 1>happening while this is also happening. This other studio, Iron Galaxy,
<v Speaker 1>is doing this as what it calls a last resort.
<v Speaker 1>This time it's the porting experts in the sports studio there,
<v Speaker 1>most known maybe recently for Rumble Verse, but they worked
<v Speaker 1>on Killer Instinct. They were heavily invested or heavily involved
<v Speaker 1>in the Metroid Prime remaster. They've done a lot of
<v Speaker 1>work like that, but they definitely seemed to be in
<v Speaker 1>a situation and they kind of say it pretty bluntly here.
<v Speaker 1>Once rumble Verse Went Sideways, which was an Epic Game
<v Speaker 1>Store PC exclusive. It was also on console, I think,
<v Speaker 1>but that's where I played it. Once that went Sideways,
<v Speaker 1>they definitely were reeling for a minute there, trying to
<v Speaker 1>see if they could get some other projects going to
<v Speaker 1>keep as many people employed as possible. That they've run
<v Speaker 1>out of run way there and now they are trying
<v Speaker 1>to basically save the rest of the studio by making
<v Speaker 1>these cuts. Jane, I always feel it's always weird to
<v Speaker 1>cover layoff stories because you don't know the reality on
<v Speaker 1>the ground, what these people have been through. Real people's
<v Speaker 1>lives are involved, and we can only sort of glance
<v Speaker 1>in from the outside and try to understand what happened.
<v Speaker 1>And my gut here is like, man, man, if Rumbleverirs
<v Speaker 1>could have just came to steam, maybe that would have
<v Speaker 1>had a better chance of succeeding. And I'm sure it's
<v Speaker 1>way more complicated than that. I am sure that the
<v Speaker 1>people that are affected by this hear that, and they
<v Speaker 1>like morbidly chuckle at like how little we fully understand
<v Speaker 1>about what they've been through and how to make how
<v Speaker 1>to make a business like this go. But boy, I
<v Speaker 1>wish they would have just have been afforded every opportunity
<v Speaker 1>to succeed with a game like that. And now I
<v Speaker 1>think this speaks more highly to a an industry that
<v Speaker 1>doesn't want to be spending a lot of money hiring
<v Speaker 1>up outside studios to do work lest they absolutely have to.
<v Speaker 1>So maybe that's support work that they've been like supplementing
<v Speaker 1>the income for the studio with. It's just not out
<v Speaker 1>there as much as it once was. So how do
<v Speaker 1>you read this?
<v Speaker 2>It's unfortunate, Greb, especially you know Dave Lang very close
<v Speaker 2>friend of the website and everything, and layoffs at any
<v Speaker 2>level are going to be difficult. This hits a little
<v Speaker 2>bit harder because for smaller studios you have to imagine
<v Speaker 2>that everyone feels the impact more so or like on
<v Speaker 2>a deeper level where you know. Unfortunately, if you are
<v Speaker 2>a bigger company like a Microsoft or a UBI Soft
<v Speaker 2>laying off two three hundred people, you can kind of
<v Speaker 2>just get rid of them and erase them from your mind,
<v Speaker 2>especially if you're at a CEO level like Eves. It's unfortunate.
<v Speaker 2>I at least appreciate the level of transparency that like, hey,
<v Speaker 2>we're trying to save the studio as a whole, and
<v Speaker 2>we have to make these cuts the port work. It's
<v Speaker 2>I feel like Ourn Galaxy is very good at what
<v Speaker 2>they were doing with the ports, So I think you're right, Grub.
<v Speaker 2>I think those bigger studios are tightening up the purse
<v Speaker 2>strings because they don't see the value or the money
<v Speaker 2>in importing an older game. They just want to continue
<v Speaker 2>taking stabs at live service games that will never get released.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, or they're bringing that stuff in house. You know.
<v Speaker 1>I was having a conversation with my wife and her
<v Speaker 1>business relies a lot on like companies just kind of
<v Speaker 1>being like, Okay, we have some extra money to spend.
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna go hire this outside firm or whatever. And
<v Speaker 1>I think we're just kind of looking around me like
<v Speaker 1>that is. You know, if it's not dried up, it
<v Speaker 1>is certainly drying up. It is these companies are feeling
<v Speaker 1>less flush, And I don't know if they actually are
<v Speaker 1>less flushed. They probably do have the same amount of
<v Speaker 1>extra cash on the books. But the uncertainty in the
<v Speaker 1>global economy for every reason that we've talked about recently
<v Speaker 1>on the show. First and foremost, the state of the
<v Speaker 1>United States has I think spooked so many of these
<v Speaker 1>companies to the point where they are not investing, and
<v Speaker 1>I think that, you know, that is just exacerbating foundational
<v Speaker 1>issues that have been there for a long time in
<v Speaker 1>how these companies want to spend money on games, and
<v Speaker 1>that's very likely that, like you know, they're Iron Galaxy
<v Speaker 1>is probably not laying people off because of the global
<v Speaker 1>economy in this moment. They are like, we've tried a
<v Speaker 1>bunch of different things recently for years and not you know,
<v Speaker 1>everything kind of had to go exactly right for us
<v Speaker 1>to be able to save everyone at the studio, and
<v Speaker 1>it didn't. So again, it's it's going to be complicated.
<v Speaker 1>I hope they're able to make this work. You know.
<v Speaker 1>A part of me is also like, God, weren't that,
<v Speaker 1>you know, wasn't Microsoft looking for someone to make Killer
<v Speaker 1>Instinct again? They would have been perfect for that, and
<v Speaker 1>it was always I imagined while hearing things that kind
<v Speaker 1>of filled in with a little bit of color. My
<v Speaker 1>understanding is like, you know, Iron Galaxy was busy with rumbolvers,
<v Speaker 1>so they couldn't do that, and my hope was okay,
<v Speaker 1>as soon as they get down with Rumble Verse. That's
<v Speaker 1>a shame. That game was very good, should have survived,
<v Speaker 1>should have had a better chance, but it didn't. Hopefully
<v Speaker 1>now they could just rush over to Microsoft and say, hey,
<v Speaker 1>we will take on Killer Instinct for you. But maybe
<v Speaker 1>Microsoft found someone else again. We don't know, So I
<v Speaker 1>begin wanting to rationalize and understand how these things happen
<v Speaker 1>and just try to imagine a world where the best
<v Speaker 1>case scenario could have happened, and come out of it
<v Speaker 1>feeling pretty naive a lot of the times.
<v Speaker 2>Jan Yeah, I feel the same way, Greb. It feels
<v Speaker 2>very easy to be on our side of the fence
<v Speaker 2>and just play armchair expert, yeah, and not knowing all
<v Speaker 2>the various different pieces that go into having to make
<v Speaker 2>gigantic decisions like this. Overall, I am bummed because Iron
<v Speaker 2>Galaxy was one of those places where it's like, all right,
<v Speaker 2>it's cool to be weird, and it's okay to be
<v Speaker 2>weird because you get something like Dive Kick and Rumble Verse.
<v Speaker 2>For as much as we and other people across the
<v Speaker 2>internet are talking about how great it was, I think
<v Speaker 2>legitimately if it was given the proper run way, it
<v Speaker 2>could have maybe not taken off to Fortnite levels, but
<v Speaker 2>at least continue to build a niche community. I mean,
<v Speaker 2>there is an absolute drop when it comes to wrestling games, right,
<v Speaker 2>we had the one AEW game, there's ww's kind of
<v Speaker 2>fixed things up now with two K and like those
<v Speaker 2>games are better now. But other than those two very
<v Speaker 2>lacking in wrestling game representation. And there's so much space
<v Speaker 2>for Rumble Verse to have partnered up with an AW
<v Speaker 2>or with a WWE releasing skins on skins on skins,
<v Speaker 2>or you know what, Rumble Verse could have teamed up
<v Speaker 2>with Stardom grub. We could have gotten our Joshi wrestler skins.
<v Speaker 1>Yep. Yeah, I mean honestly that you could. There's so
<v Speaker 1>many ways you could see Rumble Versus working if it
<v Speaker 1>just had been really given a chance.
<v Speaker 2>And perhaps like the partnership with Epic Right tied up
<v Speaker 2>a lot of that where they weren't allowed to reach
<v Speaker 2>out and it.
<v Speaker 1>Would rather close it than release it on Steam. Right,
<v Speaker 1>it was that was obvious. Again, who knows how much
<v Speaker 1>of that really is the culprit. Here in my head,
<v Speaker 1>it's like that's a big part of it. People point out,
<v Speaker 1>like you know, Iron Galaxy also hasn't had a perfect
<v Speaker 1>record with putting ports out Arkham one. The Arkham port
<v Speaker 1>that they did was plagued with issues. Now how much
<v Speaker 1>of that was their fault has been debated. I again,
<v Speaker 1>I imagine it's more complex than the Steam reviews would
<v Speaker 1>have led you to believe. And then they were also
<v Speaker 1>involved in a rough port of the Last of Us
<v Speaker 1>Part one. But they've also done so many great ports
<v Speaker 1>that it's like, Okay, they can do this, and sometimes
<v Speaker 1>it goes bad. So I bet it's once again more
<v Speaker 1>complicated than we understand, because hey, the team that worked
<v Speaker 1>on the Metroit Prime remastered port deserves all of the
<v Speaker 1>applause in the world and they were involved in that.
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I just think that this is something where
<v Speaker 1>we see them do this work and then companies keep
<v Speaker 1>going back to them to ask them to do more ports.
<v Speaker 1>So clearly they enjoy working with them and have seen
<v Speaker 1>positive results. You don't get that repeat business, that's not
<v Speaker 1>the case. I think. Really this just comes down to,
<v Speaker 1>excuse me, these companies are bringing more work in house,
<v Speaker 1>trying to save money, and this is something we see
<v Speaker 1>in times of uncertainty. That was one of the first
<v Speaker 1>things that happened in two thousand and eight as the
<v Speaker 1>recession was really starting to hit hard, was all these
<v Speaker 1>support studios that existed in Australia that we're holding up
<v Speaker 1>that entire country's video gaming industry all had their money
<v Speaker 1>pulled basically at the same time. Left everyone reeling and
<v Speaker 1>that was, you know, an entire country's worth of an industry.
<v Speaker 1>And I think we're kind of seeing that begin up
<v Speaker 1>once again. Maybe this is not like, oh, it's going
<v Speaker 1>to going to get that bad, but it feels like
<v Speaker 1>it is symptomatic in the same way that was symptomatic
<v Speaker 1>of a deeper uncertainty about video games overall. Either way,
<v Speaker 1>Iron Galaxy is still going. Hopefully they're able to figure
<v Speaker 1>some stuff out. A big part of this is obviously
<v Speaker 1>I do enjoy Dave Lang, but I think a big
<v Speaker 1>part of it also is these are people who are
<v Speaker 1>out of the like Midway Family and Midwest Gaming in Chicago,
<v Speaker 1>and you know, we saw it was a Deep Silver
<v Speaker 1>or the team that works on Saints Row they got
<v Speaker 1>hit with a bunch of layoffs as well, and they
<v Speaker 1>were also in the Midwest, and we're just we don't
<v Speaker 1>have a lot of developers, big developers left in the Midwest,
<v Speaker 1>and part of me feels like this is a slow
<v Speaker 1>draining of all that talent and video game development in
<v Speaker 1>the Midwest probably will not recover from this. If it
<v Speaker 1>really goes away, it will just be smaller studios popping
<v Speaker 1>up here or there, and they will mostly have remote
<v Speaker 1>teams all of the world. Not that there's anything wrong
<v Speaker 1>with that, but the idea of like a big company
<v Speaker 1>you can go work at in the Midwest to make
<v Speaker 1>video games that is that feels like it's a dream,
<v Speaker 1>not long for this world. Volition. Thank you, Thank you, Chad,
<v Speaker 1>appreciate that. Yeah, Okay, let's see here, let's keep going.
<v Speaker 1>Medal Gear Solid Delta release date leaks via PSN. This
<v Speaker 1>is from Jordan Miller at VGC. A trailer for middle
<v Speaker 1>Gear Solid Delta Snake Eater has gone live early revealing
<v Speaker 1>the game's release date. The trailer, which is currently visible
<v Speaker 1>on the PlayStation store page for the remake, shows that
<v Speaker 1>the game will be released on August twenty eighth. According
<v Speaker 1>to the page, the game will be released, it will
<v Speaker 1>be excuse me PS five pro enhanced. The trailer also
<v Speaker 1>confirms that the snake versus Monkey mode from the original
<v Speaker 1>game will make a return in the remake. It's possible
<v Speaker 1>that the trailer was intended for Sony's rumored upcoming State
<v Speaker 1>of Play presentation. Medlegear Solid Delta Snake Eater's difficulty will
<v Speaker 1>change based on whether players use the game's new third
<v Speaker 1>person visual perspective or the original fixed perspective, and then
<v Speaker 1>Meddle Gear Solid Delta Snake Eater's modern perspective makes the game,
<v Speaker 1>which was originally reached on the PlayStation two, play more
<v Speaker 1>like middle Gear Solid five the Phantom pain rather than
<v Speaker 1>the zoomed out perspective of the original middle Gear Solid
<v Speaker 1>three release. That's very fascinating. I had not realized that
<v Speaker 1>I read some of those previews, but I must have
<v Speaker 1>glanced over that. If people mention that book for okay,
<v Speaker 1>August twenty eighth, that later than I was expecting. But honestly,
<v Speaker 1>you know, early kind of like I guess, it's like
<v Speaker 1>the heart of summer basically. That sounds about right. That's
<v Speaker 1>pretty cool. At least we don't have to wait until
<v Speaker 1>like November. I'm really looking forward to this one.
<v Speaker 2>Jan I am as well. I'm ready to shimmy around
<v Speaker 2>ducts and to hide in boxes all over again. Grub yep, yeah,
<v Speaker 2>I just I will. I think part of the reason
<v Speaker 2>I want to play Police NOTTS is I kind of
<v Speaker 2>miss Kojima's weirdness. Yeah, and he's been pretty quiet with
<v Speaker 2>Death Stranding lately. Well, I think we have a new
<v Speaker 2>story talking about that later, but I want the weird
<v Speaker 2>goofiness to grub Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>I mean seeing the monkey Snake versus Monkey mode always
<v Speaker 1>does remind me of like, oh, how his goofiness really
<v Speaker 1>can infiltrate his games in a very obvious way. Obviously,
<v Speaker 1>the stories have a lot of quirks to them, and
<v Speaker 1>the characters are all pretty weird deep down and on
<v Speaker 1>the surface in many ways. But you're right, like this
<v Speaker 1>was just him kind of going ham and I'm glad
<v Speaker 1>that this game will be able to preserve that and
<v Speaker 1>showcase it in a new way. Yeah. I mean, Konami
<v Speaker 1>really going hard with this one. There was a chance
<v Speaker 1>that this game I thought could have come out even
<v Speaker 1>last year, so them taking quite a bit of extra
<v Speaker 1>time to really get it right. I think they have
<v Speaker 1>some confidence in it. I think they think that this
<v Speaker 1>can sort of reset Metal Gear and get people very
<v Speaker 1>much back into that franchise and help them establish a
<v Speaker 1>new platform to launch future Metal Gear related projects. I
<v Speaker 1>don't know how likely it is they start making new
<v Speaker 1>Metal Gear games, but if this hits really hard, they
<v Speaker 1>probably do go back and begin remaking a bunch of
<v Speaker 1>other Metal Gear solid games, which I think can hold
<v Speaker 1>them over for quite some time. And there's still we
<v Speaker 1>see there's a lot of appetite for that. Obviously, resident
<v Speaker 1>eval proving that.
<v Speaker 2>Let's see the Game Boy remaster remake of Metal Gear. Yeah. Also, hey,
<v Speaker 2>a lot of us had a lot of doubt with
<v Speaker 2>Silent Hill two's remake. It's right, I wound up being
<v Speaker 2>very very good. I had a lot of attention poured
<v Speaker 2>into that and love. So perhaps Konami may be doing
<v Speaker 2>something okay lately. Maybe they're getting their act together. Maybe
<v Speaker 2>they're the ex grub that wants to get back with you.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, maybe they like improved themselves in like a real
<v Speaker 1>way and it's not.
<v Speaker 2>Just all a ruse to appear better.
<v Speaker 1>Maybe they actually do care about these games. Again, So
<v Speaker 1>when Chad asked like, hey, why this one? First, I think,
<v Speaker 1>and then someone answered here, I see this is first
<v Speaker 1>chronologically in the middle Gear Lore, So I think they're
<v Speaker 1>looking at it that way is we'll start with this
<v Speaker 1>and then we'll rem And also obviously part of it
<v Speaker 1>is this is primed for a remake because it is
<v Speaker 1>from that generation where, yeah, they need to update some
<v Speaker 1>of the gameplay and change some of the things, but
<v Speaker 1>a lot of the foundational work is there. If you
<v Speaker 1>go back and remake Medal Gear Solid one, it would
<v Speaker 1>take quite a bit more work to actually do that.
<v Speaker 1>We've heard other developers and other publishers talk about that,
<v Speaker 1>where it's like, hey, the PS two, PS three era
<v Speaker 1>a little bit easier to remake those occasionally. Yes, Speaking
<v Speaker 1>of konami, new cast Sylvania game apparently to be announced
<v Speaker 1>this year. According to rumor this is from my Nintendo News,
<v Speaker 1>it has been a long time since we got a
<v Speaker 1>big budget Castlevania video game, despite it being a huge
<v Speaker 1>franchise and having a successful animated Netflix show. Now a
<v Speaker 1>new rumor is doing the rounds online, suggesting that Konami
<v Speaker 1>is preparing to revive the franchise in the same way
<v Speaker 1>it is doing with the Metal Gear Solid series. Portuguese
<v Speaker 1>site geeking Out says a new Triple A game is
<v Speaker 1>in the Caslvania series is on the way and that
<v Speaker 1>it will be officially announced in twenty twenty five. As always,
<v Speaker 1>this is a rumor, so we'll have to wait and
<v Speaker 1>see how it actually pans out. Now, this is a
<v Speaker 1>rumor we've heard before Jan early on as Metal before
<v Speaker 1>Metal Gear Solid Delta was announced. Uh, there was rumors say, hey,
<v Speaker 1>a metal Gear remake is happening, a new Castlevania game
<v Speaker 1>is coming, and they're doing a lot with Silent Hill.
<v Speaker 1>Well we've heard, We've had all the Silent Hill announcements.
<v Speaker 1>Metal Gear Solid It's date just got released, and we've
<v Speaker 1>known about it like publicly for a long time. Castlevania
<v Speaker 1>has still been completely in the shadows. They have not
<v Speaker 1>confirmed that one way or the other at all, But
<v Speaker 1>this has all everything else is lined up, So those
<v Speaker 1>rumors have felt pretty solid, and I've been holding a
<v Speaker 1>torch for this one. I'm hopeful this rumor, Jan says,
<v Speaker 1>triple A game cool. Is that what you expect from
<v Speaker 1>a new Castlevania from Konami.
<v Speaker 2>I guess so, because this is one of their like
<v Speaker 2>ten pole ips that they could rally behind that I
<v Speaker 2>guess doesn't have any residual stink on it. Right, like
<v Speaker 2>Silent Hill has a silent Hill stay think mel Gear
<v Speaker 2>as well, with a complicated relationship with Kojima and his exit.
<v Speaker 2>Castlevania is like pretty okay, right, It's been on the
<v Speaker 2>up and up. The Dominant collection was good, the partnership
<v Speaker 2>with the Vampire Survivors was good. People like that, anime.
<v Speaker 2>My question for you, Grub, I see Triple A and
<v Speaker 2>I'm wondering, does that mean it is going to be
<v Speaker 2>a three D Castlevania versus the two D Castlevania.
<v Speaker 1>That's the implication I take away. Yeah, to me, it's
<v Speaker 1>like there's two D Castlevania or metro Vania style Castlevania,
<v Speaker 1>and that's the one thing that could possibly be doing.
<v Speaker 1>But you know the fact that the rumors have taken
<v Speaker 1>so long for us just to even like get to
<v Speaker 1>a point where they are going to maybe announce it
<v Speaker 1>this year, I guess that does suggest to me that
<v Speaker 1>maybe they're working on something bigger and triple A three
<v Speaker 1>D game. I mean, at this point, the road map
<v Speaker 1>is right there. You try to make a frump Soft
<v Speaker 1>style game.
<v Speaker 2>Now, as my next question, yeah, they make do they
<v Speaker 2>just make blood Boorn?
<v Speaker 1>I mean I think so, Yeah, I think Bloodborne and
<v Speaker 1>a lot of frum Soft games have always felt like, hey,
<v Speaker 1>these are three D versions of Castlevania games. In many ways,
<v Speaker 1>I think, if you just make Bloodborne but it is
<v Speaker 1>completely dripping in the style of Castlevania, that would I
<v Speaker 1>would love that, that would welcome that in a heartbeat.
<v Speaker 1>That would be amazing.
<v Speaker 2>Hey, as someone that for whatever reason chose the whip
<v Speaker 2>cane to start out as my starting weapon and Bloodborne,
<v Speaker 2>I'm all for it. I had a taste. I want
<v Speaker 2>the whole meal now grub.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think you know, who knows how they would
<v Speaker 1>be able to pull this off if they have the
<v Speaker 1>team to do it, But I'm hopeful. And again, the
<v Speaker 1>roadmap is there. They know what they would need to do,
<v Speaker 1>and it's not like it's been impossible for someone to
<v Speaker 1>replicate what from Stuff is done, and Lies of p
<v Speaker 1>has done very well, and there's been a handful of
<v Speaker 1>others that have gotten pretty close. And I think if
<v Speaker 1>you then have the level of separation of being like, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>we're taking inspiration from that stuff that took inspiration from Castlevania,
<v Speaker 1>but this is a Castlevania game, then that gives them
<v Speaker 1>the freedom to kind of go their way. In and
<v Speaker 1>a few like the boss designed doesn't have to be
<v Speaker 1>the most startling thing you've ever seen, like from soft bosses.
<v Speaker 1>They could be the familiar demons that have always shown
<v Speaker 1>up in Castlevania, and I would be like, oh cool,
<v Speaker 1>Death is here, A giant Cerebus is here. This this
<v Speaker 1>rules So yeah, I'm I hope that if that's the
<v Speaker 1>way they're going, that's what we get. At the same time,
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't hate another new metro Vania. Would love to see
<v Speaker 1>that too.
<v Speaker 2>Hey you know what, why not a Dante's Inferno?
<v Speaker 1>Like, yeah, sure, that's it's about It's about time we
<v Speaker 1>got someone brave enough to do that. All right, how
<v Speaker 1>do you say cerebis everybody? Is? Is it not Cerebus?
<v Speaker 1>That's I thought, that's how is it Cerebus? That doesn't
<v Speaker 1>sound right? That doesn't sound right and doesn't sound right
<v Speaker 1>to me? Okay, it sounded right. Would you say Cerberus? Okay,
<v Speaker 1>sound okay? Ies that sounds right. Yeah, I think I've
<v Speaker 1>definitely heard people say it the other way, but Cerberus
<v Speaker 1>does sound more correct to me. All right, let's see here.
<v Speaker 1>Nintendo reconfirms Pokemon Legends, Za or Za and Metro Prime
<v Speaker 1>four Beyond coming twenty twenty five. This is from my
<v Speaker 1>Nintendo News. Nintendo has reconfirmed in the recent financial report
<v Speaker 1>that the long awaited Metrod Prime four Beyond and Pokemon
<v Speaker 1>Legends ZA are destined to be released this year. Hopefully
<v Speaker 1>we will see both titles in action very soon more
<v Speaker 1>than that jan They've also basically said these are Switch
<v Speaker 1>one game still now, how that excludes them from switch
<v Speaker 1>to in any way? They have not said because obviously
<v Speaker 1>all Switch one games will be backward compatible. Also, that
<v Speaker 1>does not mean that they won't have some sort of
<v Speaker 1>presence as like, hey, Switch two is out now, now
<v Speaker 1>you can play these games in an enhanced mode immediately,
<v Speaker 1>because these are also basically Switched two games. But they
<v Speaker 1>are definitely going to be Switched one games, which I
<v Speaker 1>love because Dan counterpick Metro Prime four in our Fantasy Critic,
<v Speaker 1>which is very funny but also nice to like. Okay,
<v Speaker 1>they're they're telling us, hey, we will still be talking
<v Speaker 1>about these games very soon. And of course there is
<v Speaker 1>that rumored February direct and both those games probably show
<v Speaker 1>up there. And then of course Pokemon Day is also
<v Speaker 1>this month. Is it usually in February late February? I
<v Speaker 1>think I forget. I think I think that's right, and
<v Speaker 1>so we'll definitely get an update about that game at
<v Speaker 1>at that point. So, yeah, you still recent to play
<v Speaker 1>Switch one.
<v Speaker 2>Right, one hundred percent grub like they're they're still trying
<v Speaker 2>to break records with that machine. That being said, with
<v Speaker 2>us being on the cusp of the switch to launching,
<v Speaker 2>me personally, I think I might wait a bit at
<v Speaker 2>least to play Pokemon Za until more switch to news
<v Speaker 2>is revealed. Metrod Prime four, I'll check it out, But
<v Speaker 2>Pokemon Za as a Pokemon man, I've been burned. I've
<v Speaker 2>been burned by single frame animations for so long. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>I just need a little bit more juice, all right.
<v Speaker 1>This is a I mean, if you feel like they
<v Speaker 1>have finally gotten the message, but who knows if they're
<v Speaker 1>actually gonna follow through on that. You know, they pump
<v Speaker 1>those games out very quickly, and now they're all now
<v Speaker 1>they've always been making multiple games at the same time,
<v Speaker 1>and now the games are bigger than ever before, and
<v Speaker 1>clearly that has just caught up with them, and the
<v Speaker 1>tech is just has been like, hey, we cannot fully
<v Speaker 1>support the tech available to us without making major, major sacrifices.
<v Speaker 1>Sacrifices other developers simply would not make. Yeah, so I'm
<v Speaker 1>hopeful that they are, like, just take a few extra
<v Speaker 1>months here and there on some of these projects, just
<v Speaker 1>just to fix them up enough and have a little
<v Speaker 1>bit more ambitions in terms of how you present them.
<v Speaker 1>In the meantime, though, you know, Legends the original Legends
<v Speaker 1>was really good. We also just don't know what this
<v Speaker 1>Legends ZA. How they're going to separate it from the
<v Speaker 1>main Pokemon games and the previous Legends game. Is it
<v Speaker 1>going to be like mostly played like that less Legends game,
<v Speaker 1>or as the trailer suggests, like have more city management elements.
<v Speaker 1>Like it was just a weird trailer, So I would
<v Speaker 1>really appreciate an update on what ZA is going to be.
<v Speaker 2>What if there's no Pokemon?
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what if the Pokemon have all just retired? Yeah left,
<v Speaker 1>maybe they all got traded to the Lakers. That's probably
<v Speaker 1>most likely situation. That's right, Yeah, everyone or the worst
<v Speaker 1>at this point. That's kind of yeah, I'm okay with
<v Speaker 1>that one even really. Yeah, that was like, oh man,
<v Speaker 1>I don't know Jimmy, Jimmy Butler. I don't know about Jimmy,
<v Speaker 1>but I don't know.
<v Speaker 2>I'm more so jazz grub for him bringing his coffee here.
<v Speaker 2>All right, well, are you more excited for the coffee
<v Speaker 2>that is basketball?
<v Speaker 1>I think I think that's You're gonna win on this
<v Speaker 1>one for sure. Okay, let's take a quick break. When
<v Speaker 1>we come back. Plenty of more to talk about, including
<v Speaker 1>how well Kingdom Come Deliverance Too has actually sold. We'll
<v Speaker 1>talk about that right after this. All right, let's get
<v Speaker 1>right back into it. Kingdom Come Deliverance Too has sold
<v Speaker 1>one million copies. This is from Zoe Hannah at Polygon.
<v Speaker 1>After just a day on the market, the highly anticipated
<v Speaker 1>sequel to twenty eighteen's Kingdom Come Deliverance has sold one
<v Speaker 1>million copies. Warhorse Studios. Kingdom Come Deliverance two was released
<v Speaker 1>to a media and widespread critical acclaim and obviously mounds
<v Speaker 1>of sales. Impressive at any time, but particularly in a
<v Speaker 1>competitive month that'll see Civilization seven, Assassin's Creed, Shadows Avowed,
<v Speaker 1>Monster Hunter Wilds, and Like a Dragon Pirate Yakuza in
<v Speaker 1>Hawaii released before it comes to an end. Yeah, it's
<v Speaker 1>a busy time. The massive sales numbers so close to
<v Speaker 1>other hugely popular releases. Just players are either dedicated fans
<v Speaker 1>who planned on buying Deliverance to no matter what when
<v Speaker 1>it came out, or that players intend to buy several
<v Speaker 1>games at the sixty dollars price point in twenty twenty five. Regardless,
<v Speaker 1>the consensus among game reviewers besides Polygond, unfortunately as we
<v Speaker 1>didn't get a chance to play the game before launch,
<v Speaker 1>is that this game kicks ass, especially for folks already
<v Speaker 1>invested in the franchise. The combat gets lots of praise,
<v Speaker 1>although are along with the faithful and direct continuation of
<v Speaker 1>the story from the first game and the game's signature
<v Speaker 1>realism and ray humor stays in this one too. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>and the one thing I have heard complaints about is
<v Speaker 1>the is the combat. So I need to just play
<v Speaker 1>this game for myself and see rushing to one million
<v Speaker 1>sales as a big standalone, well sequel adventure RPG, open
<v Speaker 1>world RPG. I think this is It just shows this
<v Speaker 1>is one of the things that people really want, and
<v Speaker 1>it really puts the line I don't we don't have
<v Speaker 1>to immediately go to like EA, but immediately puts the
<v Speaker 1>lie like Andrew Wilson kind of talking about, hey, the
<v Speaker 1>mass or a veil Guard failed because that Dragon Age
<v Speaker 1>game was not live service, so well, that didn't seem
<v Speaker 1>to hurt Kingdom Come Deliverance Too, which is probably already
<v Speaker 1>at the sales that Dragon Age the Veilguard's at. I
<v Speaker 1>don't know, I just feel like some of these companies
<v Speaker 1>are so out of touch, and then some of these
<v Speaker 1>smaller studios are so in touch with what the audience
<v Speaker 1>wants that it's kind of obvious at a certain point
<v Speaker 1>why some games are succeeding why they're not, right.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Grub, there's like a gigantic audience for games out there, right,
<v Speaker 2>Not everything has to be a live service game, Not
<v Speaker 2>everything has to be a Soul's like obviously, if Kingdom
<v Speaker 2>Come Deliverance Too has already developed its gigantic audience with
<v Speaker 2>the original game, despite the controversies surrounding it, uh, and
<v Speaker 2>then this game can continue to do well despite a
<v Speaker 2>bunch of other Fallout or the original stink from the
<v Speaker 2>first one. You can make games like the other weird games, Grub. Yeah, Like,
<v Speaker 2>I don't understand why that is. The these bigger studios,
<v Speaker 2>these Triple A studios are only chasing the other Triple
<v Speaker 2>A games rather than like, well that's working let's try
<v Speaker 2>and make one of those as well. Yeah, and I
<v Speaker 2>don't think the only take that I've seen grub that
<v Speaker 2>would have seen Veilguard is imran CON's take that what
<v Speaker 2>would have saved Veilguard is if they just called it
<v Speaker 2>Dragon Age Veil Guard instead of the Veil Guard.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, that would have made a difference for me
<v Speaker 1>for sure. God, I hate the Veil Guard. Yeah. I
<v Speaker 1>think that, you know, people are just kind of craving
<v Speaker 1>anything in this genre at all. Uh So anything that
<v Speaker 1>kind of comes in with some competency is going to
<v Speaker 1>be well well received. And then I think also this
<v Speaker 1>is a sequel that has learned a lot, and I
<v Speaker 1>think we also have just see that repeatedly in video games,
<v Speaker 1>where the first game kind of like gets most of
<v Speaker 1>the stuff right. But overall, it's a seven and eight
<v Speaker 1>if you're being completely fair, And if they had time
<v Speaker 1>to make a follow up to if they had time
<v Speaker 1>to let that institutional institutional wisdom build up and keep
<v Speaker 1>people on the same team working on the same kind
<v Speaker 1>of game for a long period of time and make
<v Speaker 1>them feel secure and like they have the ability to
<v Speaker 1>really see their ambitions through to the end, you get
<v Speaker 1>a sequel that really does pop off the page in
<v Speaker 1>the way that this one seems to be. So I
<v Speaker 1>don't know if publishers have the patients to even know
<v Speaker 1>that lesson, because I was going to say, learn that lesson,
<v Speaker 1>but they've learned it so many times. They're the ones
<v Speaker 1>that prove that model, and yet they seem completely disinterested
<v Speaker 1>in following through with that sort of idea now unless
<v Speaker 1>it is unless the game, like the first game, immediately
<v Speaker 1>sells like ten million copies, ten to fifteen million copies.
<v Speaker 1>Otherwise they're just not going to give it time. And
<v Speaker 1>it's like, how many times have we seen an idea,
<v Speaker 1>a show, a book series something like kind of like
<v Speaker 1>slowly build up an audience or slow or slowly have
<v Speaker 1>a small audience for a very small for a very
<v Speaker 1>long time, and then finally, after like a decade, all
<v Speaker 1>that comes together and it really finally does pop off
<v Speaker 1>and they get all the success. But I just don't
<v Speaker 1>know if modern day video game publishers are capable of
<v Speaker 1>that sort of patience anymore.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think based off of how companies are built
<v Speaker 2>now grub, they intentionally do not give themselves enough runway
<v Speaker 2>to wait and see, right mm hmmm. Like we talk
<v Speaker 2>about something having a cult success and eventually spinning off
<v Speaker 2>into the mainstream, and that's like a lot of miscellaneous
<v Speaker 2>fandoms across across media, Like Doctor Who was originally a
<v Speaker 2>very niche series for uk A Booze to get into
<v Speaker 2>and now it's a big franchise on Disney. Plus similar
<v Speaker 2>ish thing with Twin Peaks. Just think of how RGG
<v Speaker 2>is able to take the existing tool sets that they
<v Speaker 2>have and spin off weird games like Pirate or Like
<v Speaker 2>a Dragon, Pirate, Yakuza, whatever we're calling it. Mm hm.
<v Speaker 2>But also the Judgment series. Like the Judgment Series, I
<v Speaker 2>don't know how well it's sold, but it feels like
<v Speaker 2>it has had enough success to build another cult like
<v Speaker 2>audience within their existing cult like audience that is h
<v Speaker 2>and Like a Dragon is now becoming a gigantic franchise
<v Speaker 2>with a big ass audience yep.
<v Speaker 1>And and over the time, like because they had to
<v Speaker 1>be so scrappy for so long, as you were saying,
<v Speaker 1>they figured out so many smart ways to get the
<v Speaker 1>most out of all the parts and the components that
<v Speaker 1>they use to make those games to the point where
<v Speaker 1>they can't have the stuff like Judgment games where it's like, Okay,
<v Speaker 1>this is going to take place in that same setting,
<v Speaker 1>and it's just gonna have different characters and and and uh,
<v Speaker 1>you know, different mechanics. But we have a lot of
<v Speaker 1>the resources ready to go to deliver this in a
<v Speaker 1>pretty quick way. And they already they've done two judgment
<v Speaker 1>games as this offshoot series, while having a bunch of
<v Speaker 1>other side games in the Yakuza series proper. It's yeah,
<v Speaker 1>to me, it's a model, but one that must be
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if it's difficult, but one that is
<v Speaker 1>scary I think to most traditional publishers, or not as
<v Speaker 1>enticing as the lottery ticket of a big live service
<v Speaker 1>game hitting. But I'm hopeful that as these publishers kind
<v Speaker 1>of get scared off of live service games, they will
<v Speaker 1>begin looking around for what is something that is a
<v Speaker 1>little bit more stable. I hope they like they like
<v Speaker 1>really prize stability going forward, and I think a model
<v Speaker 1>like what Yakus has done, and like what a lot
<v Speaker 1>of these smaller indie teams and relatively larger indie teams
<v Speaker 1>have done, which is, hey, we're going to really focus
<v Speaker 1>in on a genre that has felt you know, abandoned
<v Speaker 1>in some ways. So yeah, I'm hopeful, and you know,
<v Speaker 1>I think EA is definitely playing with fire a little
<v Speaker 1>bit when they talk about once again abandoning single player
<v Speaker 1>games or you know, having a hybrid only single player games.
<v Speaker 1>They have a lot of live service elements, because I
<v Speaker 1>don't think gamers feel like they need that kind of
<v Speaker 1>publisher anymore. There was a time where it's like, hey,
<v Speaker 1>if we didn't have the EAS and the act divisions,
<v Speaker 1>we wouldn't get a lot of big games of any kind.
<v Speaker 1>And now, you know, any studios from Europe can put
<v Speaker 1>out a game that people feel is like the new Oblivion,
<v Speaker 1>and that that felt impossible at a certain point. So
<v Speaker 1>I don't I just like, if EA decides that they're
<v Speaker 1>done with us and they only care about the people
<v Speaker 1>that show up for the FIFA Ultimate Team and they
<v Speaker 1>only care about like the mobile space, I kind of
<v Speaker 1>would be like, all right, so long at a certain.
<v Speaker 2>Point, But even those audiences like aren't coming in droves, right,
<v Speaker 2>Like the football club is like it's down, it's down,
<v Speaker 2>and with some of the stuff that I'm personally excited
<v Speaker 2>for from EA or things that have like wowed me
<v Speaker 2>in the past, like it doesn't have a multiplayer component
<v Speaker 2>like Star Wars Jedi Survivor. I don't know how you
<v Speaker 2>ham fist any live service into that, or a multiplayer
<v Speaker 2>mode into that, maybe like a dueling mode, I guess,
<v Speaker 2>but like it doesn't need it, and that if correct
<v Speaker 2>me if I'm wrong, But I believe those games were
<v Speaker 2>very successful.
<v Speaker 1>Yes, especially the first one, but I think the sequel
<v Speaker 1>did really well as well, and they may started making
<v Speaker 1>a third one.
<v Speaker 2>I don't understand why they feel the need to like
<v Speaker 2>stay say weird shit, like, no, it would have been
<v Speaker 2>better if we had live service.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, I just think, and you know, the
<v Speaker 1>hybrid model, it's worked here and there. I mean Hitman
<v Speaker 1>clearly worked, and that was a live service game in
<v Speaker 1>that there was always something new in the works or
<v Speaker 1>getting added, or a new mode, a new way to
<v Speaker 1>engage with the same content. They made that game feel alive,
<v Speaker 1>for sure, but they had to build the whole game
<v Speaker 1>around that like that, and uh, I just think, like,
<v Speaker 1>let's just take Dragon Age and then slap the stuff
<v Speaker 1>in there or try to make it work with that,
<v Speaker 1>and that was never gonna work. You have to build
<v Speaker 1>an entirely different kind of game, which maybe requires like
<v Speaker 1>hit man was maybe well suited to that, So maybe
<v Speaker 1>take a franchise that would be well suited that and
<v Speaker 1>apply this. But overall they probably need a lot of
<v Speaker 1>new ideas that can fit well into these new models.
<v Speaker 1>And in the meantime, what happens with the single player
<v Speaker 1>of games, Well, I think if you just made them
<v Speaker 1>interesting they would they'd probably be doing a lot better. No,
<v Speaker 1>I know, it's it's insane. I shouldn't shouldn't have said it,
<v Speaker 1>all right, we talked about Kochoma a bunch already. But
<v Speaker 1>as Kojuma teases a new trailer, Death Stranding two has
<v Speaker 1>been rated. This is from Jordan Midler at VGC. Death
<v Speaker 1>Stranding two on the Beach has been rated in South Korea.
<v Speaker 1>As Hideo Kojima teases that he's working on a new trailer.
<v Speaker 1>The upcoming game, which currently doesn't have a release date,
<v Speaker 1>has been rated by the South Korean Ratings Board. The
<v Speaker 1>rating warns that the game includes successive violence, vulgar language,
<v Speaker 1>direct to drug use, and more sounds of a party
<v Speaker 1>on the beach. While games are routinely rated several months
<v Speaker 1>ahead of release, it usually is an indication that the
<v Speaker 1>game is very close to completion. This coincides with several
<v Speaker 1>teases from creator Hideo Kojuma that suggests he could be
<v Speaker 1>working on a new trailer for the game. Gochumo, who
<v Speaker 1>famously edits the vast majorities of the trailers for his
<v Speaker 1>own video game projects, has taken to social media to
<v Speaker 1>tease a premiere pro timeline and several shots from what
<v Speaker 1>could be a trailer for the game. Yep, you know that. God,
<v Speaker 1>he loves that stuff.
<v Speaker 2>I needed grub, I need it.
<v Speaker 1>I know, I mean, I love that. That's still his
<v Speaker 1>favorite thing to do. It's just like man, I love
<v Speaker 1>making trailers, and he's good at it. He really is
<v Speaker 1>good at it.
<v Speaker 2>It's very good at it. When I learned that fact
<v Speaker 2>about him, I was very impressed, and then I started
<v Speaker 2>to understand his brain a little bit. Yep, more I
<v Speaker 2>what was the quote? Is it implied drug use or
<v Speaker 2>let's see direct to drug use? Okay, So that puppet
<v Speaker 2>is doing a line of call.
<v Speaker 1>Oh that that puppet is just such a coke head.
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, I've forgotten about the puppet. How do
<v Speaker 1>I keep forgetting about the puppet?
<v Speaker 2>Jan I, like LEAs said, do has like a scarf
<v Speaker 2>with hands?
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?
<v Speaker 2>Or it's like a hand scarf. Yep, I don't understand
<v Speaker 2>it any I think I want to play through Death
<v Speaker 2>Stranding again, Grub.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I do too. I like that game fine, but
<v Speaker 1>I never really got into the director's cut. I should
<v Speaker 1>go back and really get a chance.
<v Speaker 2>I don't know how Amazon delivery drivers are in your neighborhood, Grub,
<v Speaker 2>because they probably just get on and off the truck.
<v Speaker 1>They're all just like Daryl from walking down.
<v Speaker 2>Well, but since I live in an apartment building, the person,
<v Speaker 2>the delivery person will generally have like a giant soft
<v Speaker 2>crate that they are carrying on their back, and our
<v Speaker 2>mail room is weird, so I generally have to like
<v Speaker 2>buzz them in. It is just hilarious watching them take
<v Speaker 2>out menestulate the crate twenty different little envelopes in this
<v Speaker 2>gigantic crate.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I know they don't do that here because it's
<v Speaker 1>like we're the suburbs, so they're just driving around. I
<v Speaker 1>have not seen the crate backpack.
<v Speaker 2>Oh grab, I'm gonna take a picture.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'd love to see this.
<v Speaker 2>I'm just gonna expense like twenty retro tinks from Amazon
<v Speaker 2>just so you can see this.
<v Speaker 1>Thank you. I appreciate that I did Backlar did let
<v Speaker 1>me expense my retro tank. So we have been playing
<v Speaker 1>my n sixty four looking forward to that.
<v Speaker 2>I don't even know what I can plug into a
<v Speaker 2>retro tink. I just bought twenty of them and just
<v Speaker 2>keeping that.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, dream like Lego, stack them together, build little houses.
<v Speaker 1>This would be awesome.
<v Speaker 2>I'll just daisy chain the retro tinks.
<v Speaker 1>This game probably shows up at that PlayStation state of
<v Speaker 1>play that is rumored to be happening around Valentine's Day.
<v Speaker 2>He's gonna he's gonna make it like a love trailer.
<v Speaker 1>I think there's a chance he could. Yeah, I think
<v Speaker 1>he would love to like do that. That would be amazing.
<v Speaker 2>I he Yeah, what are the odds grub that like
<v Speaker 2>he's been wicked pilled?
<v Speaker 1>Oh one, one hundred percent, Like there's no chance he
<v Speaker 1>hasn't been wicked pilled. It's a movie that came out
<v Speaker 1>of course he watched it.
<v Speaker 2>Oh man, that just like he one hundred percent ate
<v Speaker 2>up the musical sequence from Alan Wake two. Yeah, oh yeah,
<v Speaker 2>he's gonna add some songs to this girl.
<v Speaker 1>He's gonna be jealous that he doesn't have more musical numbers.
<v Speaker 1>And his stuff. Yep, I think. I mean especially in
<v Speaker 1>the trailers, Oh my god, because he'll he just goes
<v Speaker 1>crazy in those things, which is half the fun for me.
<v Speaker 1>I really enjoy his lead ups to releasing games because
<v Speaker 1>you know, they're not like, oh that's more interesting than
<v Speaker 1>the games themselves, but they're just also very cool. So yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I'm looking forward to this. This will probably be like
<v Speaker 1>them getting started in earnest. We don't have a release
<v Speaker 1>for this game.
<v Speaker 2>Right, let's see negative.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so I and I'm but it probably does come
<v Speaker 1>out this year. I think it's most people's expectations, So
<v Speaker 1>maybe we get a release date here. This feels like
<v Speaker 1>one that could be first half of the year still
<v Speaker 1>h and then maybe Sony has because this will be
<v Speaker 1>exclusive to PlayStation four some time, this would be one
<v Speaker 1>of their first half exclusives, and then maybe they have
<v Speaker 1>something else for the second half of this year. That
<v Speaker 1>kind of feels right at this point.
<v Speaker 2>Has has Hadeo Kujima acquired lin Manuel Miranda.
<v Speaker 1>Yet I don't know if he's added him to the
<v Speaker 1>collection yetka.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think we have a way to ham fist
<v Speaker 2>that into happening.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, I think at certain points like we
<v Speaker 1>can No, we definitely have the connections to get that
<v Speaker 1>come fully completed. And I always love the stories of
<v Speaker 1>Hollywood people being told that he's going to contact them, Like, look,
<v Speaker 1>Deo Kojima is going to call you. He's a video
<v Speaker 1>game developer in Japan and he's a genius. Just just
<v Speaker 1>do whatever he says. And then they all just do
<v Speaker 1>whatever he says, which is fly to Japan, step into
<v Speaker 1>my chamber, and let me capture you like a Pokemon.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, hey, what, anything's possible. I'm sorry, Dan, Death
<v Speaker 2>Straining two will have a musical segment.
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, for sure, Dan, if you want again, go
<v Speaker 1>watch The Apple because that's the dumbest musical ever and
<v Speaker 1>it's like it's fun to hate. So god, it's a
<v Speaker 1>that's a good one. Everyone should watch that new new
<v Speaker 1>Pickle draft A good moment in there and related to
<v Speaker 1>the Apple. All right, So let's see here, keep going.
<v Speaker 1>Sega files new Sonic Blitz trademark. This is from Ali
<v Speaker 1>Reynolds at Yes at Nintendo Life. Sega has filed a
<v Speaker 1>new trademark for something called Sonic Blitz, as revealed via
<v Speaker 1>Cheese Day Watch, which is, uh, they basically just track
<v Speaker 1>trademarks in Japan. Naturally, very is known about the trademark,
<v Speaker 1>but it covers all the usual categories you might expect
<v Speaker 1>from a company like Sega, Education and entertainment, machinery, ROM cartridges,
<v Speaker 1>programs for home consoles, optical discs, headphones, speakers, electronic circuits,
<v Speaker 1>and blah blah blah, basically everything that could potentially be
<v Speaker 1>linked to a major video game franchise. This feels like
<v Speaker 1>the new Sonic like universe for merchandise and animation and
<v Speaker 1>stuff like that, and there might then there might be
<v Speaker 1>a game related to this as well. But this definitely
<v Speaker 1>feels like when we got like Sonic Boom and the
<v Speaker 1>big effort there was well there's a Netflix shown. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>sure there's a game. It was trash, But this feels
<v Speaker 1>like that to me. I don't know it maybe is
<v Speaker 1>something else happening here, jan you can maybe pin down here.
<v Speaker 2>Whenever I hear blitz added to something, I just think, okay,
<v Speaker 2>this is going to be a mobile game. Perhaps it
<v Speaker 2>is a different platform, like you're saying grub or just
<v Speaker 2>to try and get everything underneath a neat umbrella. The
<v Speaker 2>Sonic Eye is very weird because I feel like the
<v Speaker 2>people out there that only consume the movies are a
<v Speaker 2>very different audience than the Sonic video game audience as well.
<v Speaker 2>Very different because, like the Sonic movies don't quite reflect
<v Speaker 2>everything that you could do in the game f at all,
<v Speaker 2>because other than going super Sonic, Sonic and Shadow aren't
<v Speaker 2>having super Saiyan battles on the moon from my memory,
<v Speaker 2>in the games at least, you're just getting the ebless trigger, right,
<v Speaker 2>that's right, Yeah, that's.
<v Speaker 1>I did watch Sonic three. That was a lot of fun.
<v Speaker 1>That's a fun movie. There's show and there's a there's
<v Speaker 1>a sand battle on the moon. Yeah, it's pretty good stuff. Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>I think I think you're right that that this is
<v Speaker 1>them kind of maximizing the return on Sonic and making
<v Speaker 1>sure that, hey, the movies are chugging along, let's make
<v Speaker 1>sure we have other ways for people to engage with
<v Speaker 1>Sonic and kind of start a new initiative here, fresh
<v Speaker 1>and you know there, it's like the teenage mutant Ninja Turtles, right,
<v Speaker 1>there's always a new Turtles for the latest generation of kids.
<v Speaker 1>It's like Pokemon. Sonic really does have Pokemon like appeal,
<v Speaker 1>is what I've discovered. Kids just see Sonic and their
<v Speaker 1>immediate like, that is a cool dude that I am into.
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I don't.
<v Speaker 2>Get it because I was once in those shoes of
<v Speaker 2>those children of like Sonic, is hella cool? He loves
<v Speaker 2>chili dogs?
<v Speaker 1>Yeah exactly, and like today Sonic is the number one
<v Speaker 1>avenue through which children learn about the concept of chili dogs.
<v Speaker 1>I think that is a factual statement.
<v Speaker 2>So I didn't not know what a chili dog was
<v Speaker 2>until Sonic.
<v Speaker 1>My kids too, they start talking about chili dogs one
<v Speaker 1>day and I'm like, who showed you, Sonic? Who showed you?
<v Speaker 1>Son You tell me right now? Anyway, Sonic blitz trademark.
<v Speaker 1>All right, people just sent me this. Let's let's dive
<v Speaker 1>into this real quick. Forget E three. The ESA is
<v Speaker 1>back with a new video game conference for change makers.
<v Speaker 1>Oh no, this is from Chris Kerr at gamedeveloper dot com.
<v Speaker 1>Let me first accept the cookies. There we go. The ESA,
<v Speaker 1>organizer of the once revered but now dead E three Showcase,
<v Speaker 1>is returning to the event fold with the Interactive Innovation
<v Speaker 1>Conference or i icon econicon. Have fun with that one.
<v Speaker 1>A conference is being pitched as an essential convening for
<v Speaker 1>change makers across the industries, but will seemingly focus on
<v Speaker 1>those careening through the world of video games. It will
<v Speaker 1>take place at the Fontaine Blue Resort in Las Vegas
<v Speaker 1>from April twenty seventh through April thirtieth, twenty twenty six,
<v Speaker 1>and they're inviting big players from around the industry. A
<v Speaker 1>number of high profile companies from the games industry have
<v Speaker 1>already confirmed their attendance, including Amazon Games, Disney Electronic Arts,
<v Speaker 1>Epic Games, Microsoft, Nintendo of America, Sony Interactive Entertainment, Square Enix,
<v Speaker 1>Take to Interactive, You Be Soft, and Warner Brothers Games.
<v Speaker 1>The s a A claims Icon will unite a broad
<v Speaker 1>spectrum of sectors that converge with interactive entertainment. We're going
<v Speaker 1>to Vegas, Jan I'm sorry, are we going to Vegas? Jerome,
<v Speaker 1>Hey baby, Jerome will treat you right, Yeah, as you were.
<v Speaker 2>I need everyone to uh pull up the news story
<v Speaker 2>that Grub is reading, but I need you to put
<v Speaker 2>up the song from Jaden Smith called Icon with Will
<v Speaker 2>Smith featured on it, because I just as I'm hearing
<v Speaker 2>you say all those things, Grub, it just feels like
<v Speaker 2>nonsense and I'm being sold fish oil. But I am
<v Speaker 2>or snake oil. Sorry, fish oil is actually good for
<v Speaker 2>snake oil. And you know what, I've thrown the sunglasses
<v Speaker 2>on grub. I'm a pop my collar, I'm a light
<v Speaker 2>of cigarette, and we're all in.
<v Speaker 1>Baby, we're the.
<v Speaker 2>Big change makers coming in.
<v Speaker 1>Oh shit, change makers, right, that's what it's all about.
<v Speaker 2>I was talking earlier this week. I think last week
<v Speaker 2>maybe that I want to like maybe get out there
<v Speaker 2>and host more things ESA. Let me do it, Let
<v Speaker 2>me do it.
<v Speaker 1>Oh shit. I always played me and micro on that
<v Speaker 1>last D three we helped kill E three. They had
<v Speaker 1>a game games Beat Decided. Yeah, games Beat Decides. It
<v Speaker 1>was known then do like an hour long special for
<v Speaker 1>them that they just threw into the middle. It was terrible.
<v Speaker 1>So I got connections for you. I can get you
<v Speaker 1>connected up with the ESA. Yeah. Okay, So they're not
<v Speaker 1>promising a replacement of E three. They are shifting from
<v Speaker 1>La to Vegas. That's honestly a good idea. So much
<v Speaker 1>more room in Vegas to do stuff like this, not
<v Speaker 1>that they need a lot of space, but it will
<v Speaker 1>also be much cheaper. There's a lot of reasons Vegas
<v Speaker 1>is better, other than having to be in Vegas, which
<v Speaker 1>some people see as a negative. I think for us,
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna we're gonna just paint that town red. It's
<v Speaker 1>gonna be done. It'll be a good time. But I
<v Speaker 1>don't know what are they actually trying to accomplish here.
<v Speaker 1>I guess having a bunch of companies confirmed to be involved,
<v Speaker 1>but in what way. I don't like Nintendo says they're involved,
<v Speaker 1>Sony's involved. They're not going to have like a Nintendo
<v Speaker 1>direct at this thing right like they have in the
<v Speaker 1>past three three.
<v Speaker 2>Right, this this feels like a step lower than perhaps
<v Speaker 2>like a how a GDC is where there's not going
<v Speaker 2>to be major, big announcements coming to this. Everyone is
<v Speaker 2>already on like the cycle to prepare for the summer
<v Speaker 2>in the winter with like Akille's summer birthday, Achille's winter birthday.
<v Speaker 2>That why fludge with a cycle? Now? I don't think
<v Speaker 2>they're going to have a booth prepared for this. Maybe
<v Speaker 2>they'll just be there to take appointments and right out
<v Speaker 2>of buffet.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this feels like Shadowy three exclusively, which is maybe
<v Speaker 1>the one thing that was most necessary to continue existing
<v Speaker 1>in some way. So I wonder if these companies I
<v Speaker 1>went to them, like, hey, we want your dues, but
<v Speaker 1>what do you want from us? And these comments? All right,
<v Speaker 1>I guess we'll keep giving you money, but can you
<v Speaker 1>please just make some way for us to connect with
<v Speaker 1>each other in a way that makes sense. We don't
<v Speaker 1>need shooting, we don't need a billion dollars spent on
<v Speaker 1>getting a bunch of people to fly out to LA.
<v Speaker 1>Just give us some way for us to convene. And
<v Speaker 1>that seems to be what this is all about.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, there is a utility aspect, right of, like
<v Speaker 2>all of these developers and publishers getting together in one
<v Speaker 2>location and being able to mingle, network and just shoot
<v Speaker 2>the shit. And maybe that is what the essay is
<v Speaker 2>going to facilitate. Having it happen in Vegas just seems
<v Speaker 2>makes it sound skeasier.
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I think it's fully admitting how skezy it is.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, I'm all for it, though, Lexi, you were young,
<v Speaker 2>You were young. Do not question Vegas. You need to
<v Speaker 2>welcome Vegas as a magical play.
<v Speaker 1>You need to be brave enough for Vegas and then
<v Speaker 1>and then then you can fully assess America and the
<v Speaker 1>video game industry. And then I got a perfect time
<v Speaker 1>for you to do both of those things all at once.
<v Speaker 1>Go ahead, jam what.
<v Speaker 2>To Las Vegas two years ago? Grub uh huh. I
<v Speaker 2>didn't want to leave. I did not want to leave.
<v Speaker 2>And it's not because of the gambling everyone, No, it's
<v Speaker 2>the shows. Yeah. Where else am I going to see
<v Speaker 2>the Blue Man Group? Angel?
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Well, okay, never mind, there's only one cross Angel,
<v Speaker 1>the mind freak. April is around the time when they
<v Speaker 1>do WrestleMania, right, that's always when they do WrestleMania is April.
<v Speaker 1>I wonder if there's a chance that these could ever
<v Speaker 1>be back to back events or even like the same
<v Speaker 1>weekend that it's okay the week before, says Dan. It okay,
<v Speaker 1>it's yeah, April nineteenth and twentieth this year. I know
<v Speaker 1>they try to do different cities, but they've been doing
<v Speaker 1>a lot of the stuff in the same cities recently,
<v Speaker 1>so I wonder if there's a chance that we could
<v Speaker 1>ever they come back to Vegas relatively soon, and then hey,
<v Speaker 1>change makers and superstars together in one city at one time.
<v Speaker 1>I want to see it. All Right, let's get over
<v Speaker 1>here to the poll question. I have that too, ready
<v Speaker 1>to do mostly nope, I just turned on Bomberman Music
<v Speaker 1>instead there we go. Okay, yeah, that was my bad.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, there is that, yes, Dan, they still do avin.
<v Speaker 1>Yep, and maybe we can have all three at one time,
<v Speaker 1>the trifecta, the real Cerberus, the real Cerberus. That's the
<v Speaker 1>three headed demon right there. All right, do you think
<v Speaker 1>Halo the Master Chief Collection will come out on a
<v Speaker 1>Nintendo switch to? Yes or no? Seventy nine percent say yes,
<v Speaker 1>twenty one percent say no. A lot of people are
<v Speaker 1>just like this one feels so obvious at this point,
<v Speaker 1>to the point, I think a lot of people are
<v Speaker 1>expecting something Halo to be announced at like the April
<v Speaker 1>second event where it's like, no, Halo the Master Chief
<v Speaker 1>Collection will just be on switch to at launch. That
<v Speaker 1>that aggressive. So people are very much over like it happened,
<v Speaker 1>you know, it happens quickly, all at once, after several
<v Speaker 1>years of pain of people been like will they ever
<v Speaker 1>do this? And here we are kind of it all
<v Speaker 1>happening at once. All right, I have a new poll question.
<v Speaker 1>We'll get to that here in a second. While we
<v Speaker 1>get that set up. Jianachoa, what do we have happening
<v Speaker 1>on Giant bomb dot com?
<v Speaker 2>Later today, we will have an episode of Voicemail Dump
<v Speaker 2>Truck with special guest John Warren. Also, I think several
<v Speaker 2>of us are tagging out and it is just gonna
<v Speaker 2>be our dear coworker Jeff Backlar with Lucy James, Nikki Grayson,
<v Speaker 2>and I guess John Warren. Tomorrow we're gonna have another
<v Speaker 2>episode of Games Warnings as well as the Power Bomb
<v Speaker 2>Cast tomorrow taking place instead of BCR And then we're
<v Speaker 2>gonna try and do some type of upf type of
<v Speaker 2>jazz Delio.
<v Speaker 1>Yep, looking forward to it. We'll figure all that stuff out. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>if you are looking for something to watch right now,
<v Speaker 1>we have some fun with Puck. It was a good time.
<v Speaker 2>Oh the finale of Blike Club finale of Blike clubs
<v Speaker 2>day Yep, that's right.
<v Speaker 1>So I am preparing myself to play some bad N
<v Speaker 1>sixty four game, as if such a thing could possibly exist.
<v Speaker 1>I'm getting that all set up once my retro tinkets here. Honestly,
<v Speaker 1>that might take a little bit longer in the week.
<v Speaker 1>I might have to actually get something else in the meantime,
<v Speaker 1>at least for the first episode, so we'll see just
<v Speaker 1>a cheap thing off of Amazon. But yeah, looking forward
<v Speaker 1>to that. Starting up next week. In the meantime, though,
<v Speaker 1>Janet Chow, thank you so much for hanging out with
<v Speaker 1>me and talking about video games. Man, I really appreciate it.
<v Speaker 2>It's the only way to start a Thursday grow.
<v Speaker 1>I don't think I did the new pole question, what
<v Speaker 1>do you want most from? A new Castlelvania, a new
<v Speaker 1>two D Caslvania or a three D triple a blockbuster Castlevania.
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<v Speaker 1>and watching. You are the best audience in gaming. Until
<v Speaker 1>next time, have a good one, take care of yourself
<v Speaker 1>and goodbye.