Random Reflections: The Power of Rest
Petra and Laurie discuss the importance of relaxation and rest for dogs and humans, covering physical and mental recovery, training strategies, and how to incorporate rest into busy schedules.
CHAPTERS:
00:00 The Importance of Time Off for Dogs
03:01 Understanding Physical and Mental Recovery
06:02 Strategies for Managing Time Off
08:49 The Role of Rest in Training
11:56 Recognizing the Need for Breaks
15:03 The Value of Latent Learning
17:54 Incorporating Variety in Training
21:01 The Balance Between Training and Rest
23:59 Finding Joy in Different Activities
27:01 The Mental Aspect of Taking Breaks
29:54 Conclusion: Embracing Time Off
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Hi, everybody. Welcome to the Canine Connection podcast. Today, Lori and I are going to talk about a topic that nobody ever likes to hear about. Yeah. Which is time off. Time off. Time off. I remember when I was doing physical therapy on dogs. And dog was injured. And I say to the client, your dog needs to be on complete rest for the next however many weeks. Immediately, at 100 % of the time, the questions would start. But could I do this? Could I do that? Could I do the other thing? So I learned pretty quickly on, I would say. Before you ask me any questions, anything you're going to ask me if the dog can do, the answer is no. Because the concept of complete rest was like mind boggling. Right. And I always tell people if it's that hard, then you need multiple dogs because. Like, forget that when they're injured, like, the dogs need complete rest. Like, humans are hilarious, right? Because we're such babies. Oh, my ankle hurts. Oh, my head hurts. Oh, you know, oh, it's Sunday. I need to rest. Like, they're really good about, like, oh, I can't do that. I can't do this. But when it comes to giving their dog time off, and there are multiple reasons. One, physical. A dog, most dogs are just going to keep going. That's how they're wired. In nature, if they're injured, they die. It's that simple. So they're really tough. If your dog is dead lame, guess what? They're super broken. I promise you that. right? I see dogs competing all the time that are in pain, like all the time, every sport I've ever been in, I saw dogs working in pain, right? But they weren't overtly limping, but I could tell because that was my job. that they're uncomfortable. So physically their body needs to recover. So if you say, oh, well, but then can my dog play ball in the yard? Well, that's still exercising. Can my dog, you know, go for a hike? Well, that's still physically working their body. Like their body needs to heal from being strained. And then mentally, like it's kind of interesting again, because I come from a sports background and this is again, where most dogs, a lot of dog sports people do not. It is like very common. Go online, look up a half marathon or a 10 K training program. It's going to give you a program. It's going to be a three to four month program. It's always what it is. It builds up slowly over time. You have the event and then guess what you do after the event? You rest for several weeks. So that's well known, right? It's like a well -known thing physically, but it's also a mental thing. Like mentally, they just need a break. Like their brain. Needs time off. I mean, for God's sakes, children have the whole summer off. I don't really think they need that long to rest their brains. But, you know, or it's the typical like, oh, my, thank God it's Friday. And then most people aren't working over the weekend. They're not even doing mentally taxing activities over the weekend. They're relaxing. They're resting up. Yeah. For Monday. Yeah, it's hard. Like it's, it's hard as like the person I am. I know the person you are to like, if somebody said to me, dude, you need to like take the next five days off and do nothing. I'd probably like hang myself. So that's hard. That's hard for me to do. And I'm just, I'm just talking about the hard, the hard side of all this. It's hard, too, because, like, I know that for my dogs, like, especially when they're coming off of something like a wicked big tournament. But they've, you know, they've, you know. used a lot of mental and physical capacities of their bodies to get through that event. They need that time off, but it's really hard because my dogs are, they play such an integral part of my life. They're so interwoven into my every like part of my day, like whether we're hiking, going somewhere, training, blah, blah, blah. I can see how that's really difficult for people to do. Like, I'm just I just want to. Yeah, no, it is super hard. I mean, I like I'm the same. Like I like yesterday, I knew I really they needed the day to just rest. Right. But like there is this other part of me that like really wanted to train because I'm working on some stuff. Right. And. And I started nose work and they have an ORT in two weeks. So I'm like, oh, and then luckily, so this is what saves me. What saves me is that I'm just too damn busy. Right. So fortunately for me yesterday, because in the back of my mind, I was at least going to do a little bit of nose work, but I had scheduled. Peggy, who we had on the podcast, like took me on the tour of the Seeing Eye, which was spectacular. But it was like I was there for a bunch of hours, right? Like the afternoon, basically, which was perfect. Because then by the time I stopped at the store on the way back and got home, it was on the later side. And then I still had to do some work on the computer. And then it was too late. Right. So I think that's part of it is like. What saves me with the dogs with that piece is that I am really busy and I do have other interests. Like I would say to people, like do yard work, like do a house project, like. Because the reason we part of what happens, the people that tend to train dogs is like we are people we are so used. It takes up an enormous amount of time. Right. Right. So then all of a sudden and for a lot of people, it's also social. So now all of a sudden you have all this empty time and it's like, well, now what do I do? Right. And I think that's that's really the key is like, say, OK, well, what are you going to do? Give yourself something to do. That maybe you would enjoy or that needs to get done or so that you don't feel like you're just sitting there doing nothing and you're feeling bad about it and so on. Yeah, I think if you have something concrete to do or like, I don't know, it was two months ago now. Time goes so fast. Like my friend has this beautiful house down. In Delaware on the water. And she's like, oh, just come down for four or five days. And I'm like such a kook. There's part of me that's like, oh, God, but wait, all those days of training. And then I'm like, no, you're going because that gives my dogs four days or however many days I'm gone off from training. Right. Yeah. Which is so important. Right. Because even just the physical aspect of the wear and tear on their bodies, like they just, you know, I'm always, I always say like, they just need to be dogs. Like they need to just be let out in the yard, sniffing in the yard. Like, and you know, when I don't have a lot of, like if I have some time off, which is rare these days and I can squeeze in hiking, like that is my, like. utmost most favorite thing to do with my dogs but even that like when we talk about time off and the physical aspect of keeping their bodies rested I can't do that like right so that's where it gets really difficult to hang that up and even though like my dogs are screw like if they even I mean, there's things I do in the house that will cue that they know they're going for a hike. Like if they even think that is happening, they are fucking going ballistic. So they enjoy that like so much. So it's easy to be like, well, it's just a hike. My dogs love it. But it is like it's still wear and tear on their bodies. Yeah, so they need time off for their body to heal. What I used to do with my clients is I would, this was really funny, like, so I would print out these blank month calendars and I would say to them, okay, here, take this home and fill it in. I want you to write in everything you do with the dog, trialing, training, hiking, playing, throwing the ball, whatever you do with the dog, right? Okay. And every almost every time they will come back and I'd go, do you have the paper? And they'd look at me and they'd go, I already know what you're going to say, because when they actually wrote it down, they realized, like, holy shit, like I'm doing something that they were doing something with them every day, multiple things a day. And they realized, like, oh, I wasn't even aware I was doing that much with them. Right. So there's the physical aspect that's super important. So I think they should have like one day a week where their body just gets to heal. Right. So where they're not doing anything that's physically breaking down their body. And then I do a couple weeks a year like spread out. Maybe more like because if I go away, then they're off. You know, my sitter stays at my house. I will have her come to do something with Zeal because Zeal's old. And if he just lays around, he'll fall apart. But like the other two don't do anything. And I used to be like panicking, like, oh, God, it's going to be terrible. I had my extra sitter on standby and they're fine. She lays my sitter like when she's not working. Lays around, she's older. So she just hangs out on the couch or sits in my yard if the weather's nice and they're fine with her. Right. You know, so there's something to be said for that, that they're actually okay for multiple days in a row, like just hanging out. Yeah. So physically, so I have that and I will for sure, like after the NOC, they always get at least a week, if not more. for sure off from training and several days off from conditioning and throughout the year i have you know places where there's five to seven days where i let their body rest just because i think that like it's good for them you know like they need that right right um mentally you know We have the kind of dogs that are the most challenging to rest, like physically and mentally, because like that's what our dogs need, right? Like they're bred to require an enormous amount of stimulation. Otherwise, you know, go lock yourself in the bathroom because it's the only time you'll get any peace. You know, I always find that after they come back from that break, oh, my God, work -wise, they are so sharp. Yep. Yep. I agree. I agree. It's hard. Like, that's the hard part. Like, I know, like, after we do a big show, like, you know, I always give my dogs who are showing, I give them, you know, a day or two off after they've shown. But it's hard because I'm driving home from the show. Like that's just on us where we're just like we have issues we want to resolve. We want to train. We want to get back to it. It's so tempting. They'll be fine. I'll just do a couple of things. But they really do need that time off. Like we have to just be really, really wise about making sure that they get their rest mentally and physically for sure. I think we. also to like, I think of it now as an actual training tool. So instead of saying like, cause like the instinct is I didn't train today. Therefore it's a lost day. It was not productive with respect towards training, right. Heading towards my goals. But the reality is what I've learned over the years is those are actually incredibly valuable training days because Their brain just needs to process. And there's like, that is a thing. Like the, you know, I do this one and done with Zest especially, but Zayna's the same now. Like I just, and you know what? They love it. Where Zest is a type of dog that if he's learning something and he's puzzling it out. Right. So it's kind of messy. And then he's like, oh, this behavior. I go, yes. And then I don't do it again. I'm done. Right. And that's where, you know, we always and I feel that urge to do more. Right. But it's that overnight thing where I just need to let it sit. I learned this thing, God, so long ago. I did this with Tyler. If my dog was stuck on something and we were just stuck, like they couldn't figure it out, like I couldn't explain it or we were just kind of stuck. I would write, I would go on my calendar and I would mark off five days and I would not touch that thing for five days. And then after the fifth day, I'd go back and do it again. He knew it. Yeah, I've had that too. It's amazing. So amazing. Yeah. So I did that purposefully as a training technique. I am going to table this. I remember one time Zest kept getting the wrong article. Like I couldn't figure out why I couldn't explain it to him. In the middle of the disaster, I just aborted, right? Left it, never fixed it, never came up with a resolution. I remember at the time I even filmed it and I was like, this is what I did. with this mess nothing and people were like they couldn't understand it like what get up the next day go outside do articles problem solved I know it's a mate it's that it's that's that latent learning stuff it's it's I'm sorry I I get it too especially with the puppy like even with the puppy like I'll be doing something uh, you know, training and teaching him a little new concept or whatever. And then I remember like, there's so many times I walk away. I'm like, I don't even, I don't know if he really got that or not, you know? Right. And then like three days later, I'm like, Oh, let's try that again. And he's like, dude, I got this totally nails it. I'm like, Whoa. Like I, I, I agree. I think it's like. Totally true. Totally fascinating. And it's completely underutilized, right? What do we do when there's a problem? Do more of it. Work on it harder. Work on it every day. Work on it over and over. Do 8 ,000 repetitions. Like, again, Zaina, she's like, dude, I just did it twice. I did it right. Like, why are we doing this over and over? And then she'll get creative and she'll do it wrong. Right. And then I'm going to say, well, you did it wrong. Well, no, that's on me. So I'm really big on the one and done. And like so like people always think like I train for hours. No, like quality over quantity, like less is more. Right. You know, you did it right. Move on. You did it right. Move on. Again, luckily for me, I have eight thousand other things I need to do. So if I get have a short training session. that's good but like they need a clear head so if we're just or if like if we I do a lot of challenging training sessions right like I'm ramping up for a tournament I must build in days where they do nothing or I just go for a hike so that can all clear and settle and they can have like an easier day And then maybe the next day easier training and then I can ramp it up again. But if I do hard, hard, hard, hard, hard with no break, they are going to get flat. Yep. And they're going to get sucky and their work quality of the work's going to degrade. Right. Their enthusiasm's going to go down. Like they just need, just give them a break. Give them a break. Just give them some time off. So I think there's, yeah. So there's the like short term, like the overnight thing, not doing too many reps, you know, give them those days off during the week. And sometimes like, you know, I always found like I, it wasn't until very recently that I managed to like squeeze that into my schedule again, where I started doing some nose work because it's that it is good if you can, if you have the time. To do something different than your primary sport to just change the channel. Yeah. Mentally, which, you know, I haven't done it for a long time, literally because I just didn't have time. But back in the day, I used to always do one other thing that that I wasn't worried about being highly competitive and anything like that. But it just gave my dogs an opportunity. to do something different. And what's kind of fascinating is like, so Zaina's like phenomenal at, at this nose work thing. And she's so proud of every time she finds it, she's like, I did it. And I'm like, wow, you're so good. Right. And, um, you know, she's trying harder and obedience. Wow. I know. shocking but she's like she's like give me my turn look what i can do like you know so it's that too it's like she's gaining confidence from that thing completely unrelated apple like couldn't be nose work obedience like hello right right right exactly the same thing like I could see if it was field work nose work something like that right right but um no like typically she doesn't really want to train obedient she doesn't doesn't really she does not want to train obedience every day and that's fine she doesn't need to there's a lot of days I'm like okay let's train and she's like yeah I'm not feeling it and I'm like okay you're out bye and she's like It works for her. She knows everything. It's fine. Right. But lately, even when I'm like, all right, today, you don't need to train today. She'll be like screaming in her crate. And my training partners are like, what is happening with her? She wants her turn. Yeah. She comes out and she's like, let's go. Like who would have thought, right? Yeah. So maybe it's the confidence she's getting in the one, or maybe it's just building her ego, or maybe it's just changes the channel so that when I go do obedience, she's more enthusiastic, like who knows. But, um, so I think like doing now, of course, you know, you can do too many things in the sense of. That your dog then is doing three things a day every day. Right, right, right. Which is too much, but yeah, doing that to change the channel, I think is a really good thing. Like if you have the time to do it. Oh my God, you want, so I'm just, I'm doing an ADD thing right now. So you're having. Lori's having a Mondio ring person do a seminar at her place. This is, this is what social media is, right? So I'm at the seeing eye. I see a client, someone that used to be my rehab client talking to her. She works there. All of a sudden she goes, Oh my God, you're doing Mondio ring. I'm like, no, I am not. But on Facebook, I said, I posted that I'm going to this seminar. It'll be, it's a one day. It's a fun thing. I said, yes, I signed up for the bite work, but it's one day. Like how much can they, you know? Right. Right. And she's like, but you know, they haven't, I'm like, dude, I have so much. That is so funny. One more thing. Add it to your list. I can also do Mondia Ring. But I always joke, like we always joke. Zaina would love Mondia. See, everybody said, I know. Dude, because like she loves that fucking challenge. And that's what it's all about. She loves when it's hard. Like the crazier the challenges we make, the more bizarre, random, kooky. roofing thing we can come up with, the happier she is. Give her a plain old ring and she's like, oh, this sucks. This is so boring. Let me look outside the ring. Zaina Elizabeth. But even something like that, I think doing a one day seminar and something different. Yeah. And giving them something, the dogs, something different to do. Right. Like I think is good for them. Like I think they find it, a lot of dogs find that entertaining. Yeah, absolutely. I think it's a change of pace. It's just like us, a change of freaking scenery, you know? I mean, it's true. Like for your mental state, like when I opened the business. Up until pretty recently, like I literally felt like I was living in this bubble of just working, training my dogs, working, training my dogs. Like I didn't even have a normal fucking existence. Like I hadn't even been to the freaking grocery store. Thank God my husband was able to, he's got a schedule where he's able to pick up a lot of that slack. But I literally was like craving going to like walk through Walmart like a normal person. But that's like this, like I needed to mentally do that, that change of scenery. And that like, I think it's just good to think about that. Like you said, I wish I had more time. There are things, I have my bucket list of things I just do, I do want to do with my dogs. you know, I love obedience, but if I had more time, I would love to dabble in other things just for fun. And I think the dogs do, they enjoy something new, you know, just like we do for sure. Yeah. So, I mean, of course we all go through that, right? We all have periods in our lives where we just can't add that other thing. Right. But everything ebbs and flows, but like you kind of have to have it in the back of your mind. So that when there is a break, okay, like go to Walmart and then leave the dogs home. Like let the dogs just hang out. Right. Like they get to just chill out. You get to go to the store. Like it's this weird thing. Cause we feel guilty. Right. Like I, and I've done this and I have to train my dogs. Oh my God. I haven't trained my dog. I didn't train my dogs yesterday. Like as if we did something. bad i know like i haven't trained my dogs and my dogs in two days oh my god like i have to train them today i have to like and we get this it's like that i don't know it's like that feeling like the train's going by and we're not on it you know it's like that feeling like we're missing i think it's an addiction i think it is an addiction it is you know and we have to recognize that and put the brakes on Yeah. And start. And like I said, like do or sometimes it's like, OK, instead of like training, training your dog, like teach your dog a bunch of silly pet tricks, like something stupid. So now you're still doing it that something together. Right. But you're doing something that's like outside the context of your sport. Right. And. It's like it could be low impact or like I used to do like this thing with a dog in the past where I just like had a little empty cleaned out shampoo bottle, poke some holes in it, do some hot dogs in it through in the yard, go find it. Right. Like when Zesty goes to the one sitter, she like literally she goes to this big field and the grass or whatever weeds really high. And she just like. Turns his back, throws his toy in there somewhere and says, go find it. And he just goes and hunts it. And he thinks it's the most fun thing in the whole wide world. Like the most fun. Like he loves it. As a matter of fact, he does that game on purpose with me. It's the craziest thing. So we're hiking with his toy. All of a sudden he comes running up to me from behind and he like walks backwards staring at me without the toy. Right. And he's like. His eyes are all sparkly and he's like, Hey, Hey. And I look at him and I go, well, where's your toy? And he's like, my toy. Right. You want me to look for my toy? I'm like, yeah, where's your toy? And he takes off behind me and he goes and he finds wherever he left it. And he's like, I found it. He created his own game. So like just a silly game like that, like can give them. like you know change the channel right like give their brain a break yeah give them something else to do um but it's like we have to control recognize and control that we have this urge and that our dogs are they will train with me every day if i ask them to right because we've conditioned them to that yeah we make it reinforcing we make it fun it's what we do it's what they do with us yeah they want that time with us so they will do it you know and by the time they get so flat that they're like I don't feel like it if that happens you're in a huge hole yeah you know You've dug yourself deep. So I think it's just a matter of self -control, mindful of doing it, scheduling it in. Yep. I agree. I agree. And they are going to be fine. You know, like I have a family, so I've got other people in my house, my kids and my husband. But I'm like with my Labradors, I'm the primary person. You know, I'm the one that hikes them, trains them. blah, blah, blah. So when I'm home, they're constantly, you know, watching me like for any sort of like indication that we're going to go train, we're going to go hike, blah, blah, blah, blah. But when, and, and like, they follow me around, I go here, I go there, they're following me all through the house. But when I go away without them, my family's always like, no, they were totally fine. They just chilled and slept on the couch all day. But like when I'm when I'm home, like stormy and salty, they don't they they're just up constantly following me, seeing what I'm doing. But when I leave, my family's like, dude, they were fine. They didn't they didn't really care. They were just sleeping the whole entire time you were gone, which is great because then I know I like, thank God. I gotta get a rest. I'm tired. I need some sleep. I need a nap. I need to watch doggy Netflix for a few hours. Yeah, it's that whole, well, I have found that like on the rare occasion that for whatever reason, I'm like dead exhausted. I don't feel good or something like that. And if I'm just on the couch and I'm just watching TV, I'm like, nothing's happening. They'll just lay there as well. They'll kind of mirror that. Right. Yeah. Of course, the second I get up to go to the bathroom, all hell breaks loose. But for that time. So, yeah, they're going to be fine with rest, physical rest, mental rest. We are the ones that struggle with it. So we need to come up with a strategy, whether it's telling ourselves that this is still training, giving ourselves permission to relax, giving ourselves saying, hey. you know this is the time you're going to do something for yourself or you're going to do a project or whatever that thing is something give yourself something else to do so you don't feel guilty you know or you don't feel bad um and understand that like you know athletes understand the absolute critical importance of rest you know physical rest and mental rest they understand that like it's a thing It's why there's so much talk about, you know, mental health issues with top athletes and that because it's just this constant pressure like they need a break from it. You know, this is what I love about that ice skater, Alyssa Liu. She won the gold medal in the Olympics. She won the world champions last year. She won the Olympic gold medal. And you know what she did? She pulled she she's not going to world championships. She is all over the internet. She is going here, there, this thing, that thing, this, this TV show, that TV. She's going like, I am soaking this shit in. Yeah. And I am not running back into that ice rank and killing myself. Like I'm going to enjoy this once in a lifetime experience and all the like perks that comes with it. Cause she's. getting invited like everywhere under the sun yeah and she's doing it i'm like how many people do that like no everyone's like back in the gym already no gotta prepare for world championships gotta prepare for nationals gotta prepare for the next thing yeah and there's no break right and then they crack and fall apart and um so i love that she's kind of like doing that like it's such a liberating thing it's such a like amazing example of there is another way to do it yeah absolutely and taking that break is like so important yeah yeah so take your breaks give your dog a break go do something do do yard work bathroom i don't know all right thanks everybody for listening bye