Joe and Jada - Fat Joe, Jadakiss & Jim Jones on Nas, LL Cool J & hip hop idols, making rap money, raising kids

Joe and Jada

Fat Joe and Jadakiss welcome Harlem's own, Jim Jones, as the three hip hop legends discuss coming up in the game in New York. Jim discusses what he does to stay relevant as he ages and how he is involved in more than just making music. Next, Jim discusses his place in hip hop as Joe asks him about a comparison that was made on IG about Jim being like Nas, and what Jim thought about that. Jim discusses how legends Rakim, Big Daddy Kane, and LL Cool J influenced his style when he was coming up. The fellas then discuss the importance of how they raise their kids and what it means for them to be able to provide for their families and community. That and more on another episode of Joe and Jada. #Volume #Herd

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00:00:00
Speaker 1: I'm a passionate brother. I with my heart on my sleeve. I cry a lot of it like that. I'm very emotional. So when people talk about me, I gotta stand up for me because nobody else is gonna stand up for me. As you see. Yeah, I fight all my battles on my own. I take losses and I take my ones the same way. You're heard, the same smirk, just like this.

00:00:32
Speaker 2: Your year? What up y'artist is? Joe Crack your boy Jada?

00:00:37
Speaker 1: You know what it is?

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00:00:53
Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 3: First thing, first, we like to welcome my guests to the show. You already knowing me, don't need too much introductions. My brother Jim Jones, Capo status Year makes some noise with everybody.

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Speaker 2: Also, this is a p s A.

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Speaker 3: We're not gonna talk about my brother styles and we're not gonna talk about Camp one.

00:01:21
Speaker 2: I don't condone that ship.

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Speaker 1: In two.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot more other beautiful ship.

00:01:26
Speaker 2: Going on in the world.

00:01:30
Speaker 1: It's another thing. To talk about me and me and Staffs are actually brothers, two brothers that love each other. I'll be wanting people to know that, like.

00:01:39
Speaker 3: You don't have to get into that because we already know what it is and we're gonna and they're gonna see soon enough, you know. I mean, element of surprise is always beautiful. You've been very hard working over the past few years, putting out projects, working everywhere, doing doing tech work, doing all kinds of ship you you everywhere. You're safe to say you've been very productive and very lit. What's your motivation to keep making music? To stay you know, relevant by being w's for your son.

00:02:15
Speaker 1: And all the money is always the motivation. I mean, hip hop has gave me a life that I wouldn't want to trade for nothing else in the world. I Mean, I have my ups and downs, but for the most part, this is this has been the hall of a rider, and I'm just enjoying it even more. But to stay in it, you gotta be you gotta be real with yourself and really realistic with your output. Because a lot of people try to do it, but they don't. I would say, try to do it. There's a lot of people doing things. But for me, it's trying to be able to reinvent myself the perseverance, staying current, not chasing a young generation, but finding a medium where we both could where we both could benefit from. So it was a lot that comes with this journey in this past few years that I put myself on a low to prove to myself that a lot of these things you see going on is things that I've actually proven to myself and not for no one else. Things that I know I could do, Things that I constantly tell myself to get up off your ass and get it done, because you could do these things with your eyes closed, and things like that. Procrastination as a motherfucker. And when you at the top of your game and you discourage a little bit, procrastination can hold you even more. And they had to figure out how I had to learn how to be comfortable and uncomfortable situations and things like that. And you know, it's no different from coming to where we came from and things like that. When I backward was against the world, we figured out different ways to overcome that, and being in the game is no different.

00:03:47
Speaker 4: Look at Jim Jones, he's a hall worker, He's relentless, you don't stop. You definitely got better lyrically over the years, right, And so at what point you said, y'all gonna get nice and take the lyricism to another level because we've been hearing it.

00:04:12
Speaker 2: But we see your growth, you know. And also.

00:04:19
Speaker 4: I feel like you got a million people on your back too, like like I learned from so many artists from you, say at dice Pace, So say all the other guys, you know, you ain't just pushing you, you push you know, tell me about that gets me.

00:04:35
Speaker 1: It's always my passion to help people, and in music that's been one of the things that I'm pretty good at. I got a great ear for music, a great at of talent. I know how to help them and curate them into a way that they have a fair chance of success. And that was one of the things that I always wanted to do, even when there was a time that I thought I was gonna stop doing music, when I had just moved to Miami for a couple of years straight and just in a whole different zone. But even in Miami, I chose to help a whole bunch of artists out there, which I did Miami events and That's how people got to hear Zoe Dallas and shout out to my boy ball greasy and being money and all these I mean, so it's something I have a knack for them. But it seems like the more that I gave it was the more that I got, you know what I mean. The more selfless I was was the more that I was blessed, even in my time that I needed the most. It was like I gave the people when I didn't have nothing at certain times.

00:05:29
Speaker 4: The story of Jim Jones is pretty much making something that of nothing. I don't want to make this a tradition, but you're all from the Bronx. It just so happens.

00:05:43
Speaker 2: Jad you know what I'm saying, he from the b X now, because.

00:05:54
Speaker 4: It seems like everybody from the BX at all. You're from the b a ah, I HALLM love you.

00:06:03
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. That's cool, you know what I'm saying.

00:06:07
Speaker 1: But I just went through this with another guess, yeah, I have to, but I've been I've been in both in the Bronx and Hall. He sat Rocky.

00:06:17
Speaker 2: Don't say he from the Bronx. He from the Bronx.

00:06:19
Speaker 1: I know this I was really born in Hall.

00:06:22
Speaker 2: My hospital was a Okay, Damn, I didn't know that.

00:06:24
Speaker 1: I thought sim was born in Bronx Lebanon, but I was. I was.

00:06:27
Speaker 2: I'm born in Balls, Slebanon. So I hurt right now saying you was.

00:06:31
Speaker 1: Born in A. I mean they bring from from Flower Firth Avenue. They bring me the Week's Avenue to Coton.

00:06:39
Speaker 2: I need a mall lined up.

00:06:41
Speaker 1: No, I'm a I'm a Bronz kid. I just I'm a hobbrid I was.

00:06:46
Speaker 4: I need a mall line I need all my chest pieces, I need you know, the clips. They from the Bronx. Then they moved down to v A. I'm just telling you the truth.

00:06:57
Speaker 1: But I got I got the best of both worlds, man, I got all the attributes from the Bronx and everything from Harlem. Like I'm a real breed. Like I understand, I'm a very aggressive red breed. I'm a very aggressive hustler, you know what I mean. Like, I got the best of both worlds. So I love it. Man, shouts to the extra shouts all my guys.

00:07:15
Speaker 4: You know, people used to and I don't want to sound like a broken record, but people used to champion a hustler. Somebody who really wants to get money, want to go on another level, take their family on another level. They used to champion that, And I get it when you sit here and we say, yo, why are you cushing while you moving like you're twenty years old and you won't stopping this, and you're like, yo, I'm trying to get this bread. I'm the same way. We love hip hop culture, we love everything. I'm trying to get this bread to make sure we financially secure. If you understand what I'm saying, some people act like they cool with being broke.

00:07:56
Speaker 2: Or something like that.

00:07:57
Speaker 4: So I know your motivation and I understand your answer. You know you're just a true huster from if we wasn't rapping, we'd be selling whatever. Juice gives a fuck, we're trying to get money, I'll pick up. I love juice, I love juice, I love Kick Cafe. But what I'm trying to say is I understand that about Jim Jones. The Jim Jones are hustle. He loves money, he loves to find the things in life. And I said something the other day, me and you talked about behind the scenes where people don't get it right, So I said, rappers work checked the check.

00:08:33
Speaker 2: What does that mean to you that statement, because me and you had that conversation out.

00:08:37
Speaker 1: I mean, it's the same difference of the people that's coming up one of nine to five and they got to pay their bills. We got to pay our bills to the expenses that we acquire for having money is the same expense that you have at the end of the month. So we don't meet our quota. We don't pay for these big ass houses in these fly cars that we got there, they start taking them away the same as you. You don't make that money, you didn't pay that rent at the end of the month. Then they start coming with them notices and get you out the CREB. No difference, there's no difference in the risks even high for us, because we got so many things going on and ship like that, and we start acquiring bills out of nowhere, and pretty soon they're going is good and sometimes it's going get bad. And then if you ain't prepared for that and able to hold up everything that uses a quiet, it disappears in the flash.

00:09:17
Speaker 4: You ever had to tell your wife death can for Hope's the death.

00:09:23
Speaker 2: Car break that down to me.

00:09:27
Speaker 1: I've been a death before you heard.

00:09:29
Speaker 3: We we I'm pretty sure we, all three of me could a test when shit is going beautifully.

00:09:37
Speaker 2: And then is, like you said, is a time when sh it ain't going beautiful?

00:09:41
Speaker 3: How do you persevere through them times that build's character?

00:09:46
Speaker 4: Let me tell you something. People in life, they always and this ain't no shot to nobody right.

00:09:54
Speaker 2: People in life.

00:09:55
Speaker 4: Let's say with me, I've been in a situation where I'm doing fucked up. You know, better than your average guy, but I'm doing fucked up compared to how I do.

00:10:05
Speaker 2: And people find reasons to disattach themselves.

00:10:10
Speaker 4: From you when you're going through the struggle and you're sitting on the couch by yourself trying to figure out how you're going to get about this whole. You know, I had so called friends find excuses. One of my friends had an argument with one of my friends.

00:10:26
Speaker 2: He was like, yo, Joe, I know that's more your man.

00:10:30
Speaker 1: Than I am.

00:10:32
Speaker 2: You know, you stay with your man's and I stay to me.

00:10:35
Speaker 4: I knew he used that opportunity thinking Joe fucked up, Joe gonna need a dollar, He's gonna ask me, let me, you know, and then you come back and you're bigger than ever, and them guys are like they missed it.

00:10:50
Speaker 1: I got a funny story I got missed. Let me hear it.

00:10:53
Speaker 2: We ain't talk about nobody, but this has got to be an education mine.

00:11:00
Speaker 1: When I was up, you know, you come ask me some help. Cool go down, Nobody comes to help you. You're hurt. But he's up now while I'm down, and i'm you know, I see him all the time. Ain't nothing. Now I'm back up. He's damn guess what he's doing.

00:11:22
Speaker 2: Asking you for help.

00:11:23
Speaker 4: No, I'm not doing that. I'm not doing that, your Jim, Jim, I'm not doing it. I promise you on God, I'm not doing it. I'm not doing it. I'm done with that. I might be too old, y'all might be younger than me to play that ship.

00:11:38
Speaker 2: I'm not playing.

00:11:39
Speaker 1: I'm not telling you how to discycle like this is the crazy shit doing that to me?

00:11:43
Speaker 2: Bro, I'm not doing Let me tell you.

00:11:45
Speaker 1: I got a story.

00:11:45
Speaker 4: Hold up, hold up, I got a story. I'm fucked up. They take all my money. I know y'all don't want to believe me, count and rob me, then pay my taxes. When the government come to me. He wronged me for one point two million.

00:12:01
Speaker 2: He ain't paying.

00:12:02
Speaker 4: I'm paying them to pay and showed the government the wires that I'm paying to your coming to pay my tax.

00:12:08
Speaker 2: They know I gave them the money, but they said you as the leader of your household. Boom.

00:12:14
Speaker 1: I go to court.

00:12:15
Speaker 4: I paid them the one point two again, paid the lawyer number seven eight hundred. I got the number one got cool, fucked me, put me in a little jail time.

00:12:24
Speaker 1: The point is, I go.

00:12:26
Speaker 4: First day to the studio, Yo, Jim Jones, I know your story too well. I go first day to the studio, come out of jail. You got these little niggas with purple hair, yellow hair, thinking what the OG's doing in the studio. They're really looking at us like we're wasting our time. Don't know if you know that right, So they're looking at me. We come up all the way up, yo, Ram, Come get on the song. It's all the way up. It's spun one day that strip club and the ass right there was fly Queen's. They say, Yo, we want to do that single release party.

00:13:04
Speaker 2: Bet yo, Ram, let's go. She's at it.

00:13:06
Speaker 4: She's jail eight years, I lose all my money. I might as well been in jail for twin. I don't do broke. Don't take this the wrong way, take this encouraging. I don't do broke. I'm allergic to bro I'm gonna go get it if it's in the fucking Africa, timbuctoo Asia, no rock unturned.

00:13:28
Speaker 2: I'm going to get that dollar. Like, don't worry about it, and I'm not complaining. I don't do bro But.

00:13:33
Speaker 4: One day the shit ring. The next day they say single release. Maybe two days after all the way up come out.

00:13:40
Speaker 2: You knew when you heard all the way up. You knew when you heard it.

00:13:44
Speaker 4: Holy shit. These guys hit one out the part. You know it off one spent, they hit one out the park.

00:13:50
Speaker 2: So we go to aces.

00:13:53
Speaker 4: This is a two day effect, and this is probably balling like there's a two day effect. The club is on tilt, the walls are sweaty, out of control. I get to my section and it's a hundred people in my section and I'm sitting there like this, and they coming up.

00:14:13
Speaker 2: Yo, God, we did it again. God, we did it yo yo, God yo yo private jets again God yo yo yo.

00:14:21
Speaker 4: They coming right and I'm sitting there, and Remy's there, Pistol's dead, rest in peace.

00:14:29
Speaker 2: Percy was there.

00:14:30
Speaker 4: So we rocked. I mean not even lean back. Yeah, lean back did this. But just two days later, how they understood every word. I didn't know it was one of them, right, they turned the lights on. We're walking out. I'm walking out with a hundred motherfuckers.

00:14:46
Speaker 2: Me up, me, I stopped. This is the same story you're breaking out.

00:14:52
Speaker 1: I stop.

00:14:53
Speaker 2: I turned around, I sit your pistol.

00:15:02
Speaker 4: I don't ever want let's see these niggas if my life forgetting you.

00:15:09
Speaker 1: You you shoo yo, every.

00:15:22
Speaker 2: Let me turn around and look at them and go. You heard the God. We don't want to see y'all no more. We walked out. We never seen them again.

00:15:33
Speaker 4: So you think, after all the times we put people on privates, we take them on hotels, you ward shows, you eating steaks, you eating lobsters.

00:15:41
Speaker 2: We're paying your bell, we're paying your rent, we're paying your this and.

00:15:43
Speaker 5: This and that.

00:15:44
Speaker 4: You guys disappear when the time get rough, then you want to show up talking about we did it again.

00:15:51
Speaker 2: I swear to God, I've forgiving people before this time.

00:15:57
Speaker 4: It was over because I know I went to the bottom of the battle God forgifts.

00:16:03
Speaker 1: I don't now working out?

00:16:08
Speaker 2: Watch you work out every day?

00:16:09
Speaker 1: Important?

00:16:10
Speaker 6: Is it?

00:16:11
Speaker 1: Fitness is everything?

00:16:12
Speaker 6: Man?

00:16:13
Speaker 1: I mean, that's how I found the youth. That's the way to live along with life. Fitness and diet. Diet is just important. This fitness I had to learn that. I was because I know you like eat.

00:16:23
Speaker 2: I know you got it, like you have cheap day with sweets?

00:16:26
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, how to stop all I actually had. I was about to tell you, like the doctor like six months ago, the doctor told me I was pre diabetic. So it wasn't really about how much I was working out, about how much sugar and bad food that rely and trying to use the excuses working out. Even though I was looking good, the inside wasn't looking good. So I had to reverse that whole thing and just cut out the sugars, cut out the cakes, cut out the ice cream, cut out everything that I really liked and shit like that. To start eating real food and shoots it up to a lot of fruits and shit like that. And I feel a hundred times, but.

00:17:00
Speaker 2: Will you cock these are you doing?

00:17:02
Speaker 4: You're doing too much your gym, You're doing push ups in the snow with the dog on top of you, with a chain hanging.

00:17:09
Speaker 2: Off a ship one arm. That ship is unbelievable. Like I'm looking at this God, I could.

00:17:16
Speaker 4: Be anywhere in the world, Jim Jose and he shows you how much you're not healthy.

00:17:22
Speaker 2: When I see this guy just zooming through the gym, you too, You you big on it too.

00:17:27
Speaker 1: Jon jab in there, I'll be watching. You're a ball going ahead. I can't I can't get it. I'm just trying to be prepared for whatever come at me, you know what I mean? Like I live. I live a life that comes with a lot, and I gotta be ready to stand to off or whatever comes out of me.

00:17:46
Speaker 4: Let me ask a question when we're done with that, when we I feel like I'm done with that, with anything coming at us, right like I think we all prove Hold up.

00:17:55
Speaker 7: Let me just let me say something that happened to you, and I know the airport, I know from what I'm saying to you. Start with him, Okay, So that's this is what was mean.

00:18:08
Speaker 1: So if I wasn't on my dem the white man would have got the best of me and niggas with my whole career to have my career been down that it would have been the biggest thing in the media for years. The nigga you should have had tough with the white man like they would have been wallowing me up. Your white with you.

00:18:24
Speaker 4: And I know he fucked with you because I know you well and I know your characters.

00:18:27
Speaker 2: So I know he over fucked with you.

00:18:29
Speaker 1: Definitely.

00:18:29
Speaker 4: You understand what I'm saying. He taunted you to the to the level of I know about this. I opened the curtain that Roy Jones was waiting for me, behind the curtain, champion of the work, ready to knock my block off.

00:18:44
Speaker 2: Okay, so I know about being when I got shot, I had thirty forty guys. I turned the corner, ho boy, waiting for me alone. I'm telling you the true story. I'm the king of getting turn like that.

00:18:58
Speaker 1: Wasn't for you with joking. What happened? When what happened? When you don't do that?

00:19:04
Speaker 2: Everybody know that Roy Jones. Don't do that to Roy Jones. Roy Jones, when he was waiting for you and doah, oh my, he wasn't dolo.

00:19:13
Speaker 4: He had First of all, I had one hundred and fifty guys because we clear about that. It was all jar Ru's this one. I'm trying to tell you you could be with one hundred and fifty. Open the curtain. These dudes over there, yo, they tell you that not we.

00:19:31
Speaker 1: In New York.

00:19:33
Speaker 4: Jar Ru album released New York is the biggest art just performed with you.

00:19:37
Speaker 2: I spun it around.

00:19:39
Speaker 4: I opened the curtain to walk to the back Jim Jones, except Roy Jones is standing there with the devil in his eye.

00:19:48
Speaker 2: No you not understanding. There is the Champ for the world.

00:19:51
Speaker 8: I had to grab his wrist, be like, yo, Champ, Yo, I don't even know no, no, no, no, no no.

00:20:04
Speaker 2: I've avoided everything you could think of. I know how to do it.

00:20:07
Speaker 4: So I grab his wrists and I'm pretty much begging him, not that, not to knock me out, Yo, Champ.

00:20:15
Speaker 2: I know you're gonna knock me out.

00:20:17
Speaker 1: Yo.

00:20:17
Speaker 2: This he had the guy, he had some guys with him. He had one of them.

00:20:21
Speaker 1: Yo.

00:20:21
Speaker 6: Let me tell you the way most people die is the guy in the back. Get him, champ knock him out, Champ, yo, and put that battery.

00:20:36
Speaker 9: I'm here, I'm the last person this pussy, and but I don't want to start arguing with him because I might agitate the chaps.

00:20:48
Speaker 2: Yes, so I'm trying to talk. I'm trying to talk to him like.

00:20:55
Speaker 4: I'm like, yo, champ, yo, hip hop this this that so the guy trying to gasp him, you know the hook off For me, it happened to me one time they caught me over here, certain they were trying.

00:21:06
Speaker 1: To kill me.

00:21:07
Speaker 4: It was about thirty guns some shit, and one guy with byefocals kept trying to guess the nigga Yo, just light him up.

00:21:15
Speaker 2: Fuck that. I'm pleading for my life.

00:21:17
Speaker 1: Yo.

00:21:18
Speaker 2: This We're all Puerto Rican. We can make this happen. Don't worry about it. Guys are chill, They're ready to come.

00:21:24
Speaker 10: I'm over there trying to man it is a dude with byefocals gear it to them now like so you can't go with them with with those guys.

00:21:37
Speaker 4: Long story short is, once the crew figured out and I tell I start feeling pussy, I let the champ go.

00:21:45
Speaker 2: I go your cham night. I said, I'm gonna be honest with you. No, no, he know the story and I'm not.

00:21:54
Speaker 1: I see your champ.

00:21:55
Speaker 4: You see those one one hundred and fifty guys and they over there chilling, smoking blood wrap, and the guther said, nobody's gonna fight you.

00:22:03
Speaker 2: Those guys right there with me. So he looked. He said, it's hip hop. He's not pussy for no one sake. Roy Jones. Can't anybody think ROYD Jones is not Roy Jones came to pack me up. The point is what he said, you gotta be ready for it. I'm just talking about in general.

00:22:19
Speaker 1: I don't know if a nigga ready for that. Roy Jones, though, we're gonna have to jump. We have to jump this. This niggah you got, you.

00:22:24
Speaker 2: Got a hundred fifty to try. It's like a hundred man against.

00:22:27
Speaker 1: But it's just it's just the one second is gonna take for him him, No, no, no.

00:22:32
Speaker 2: To put you three times one second.

00:22:34
Speaker 1: I was.

00:22:36
Speaker 3: Gonna hit him.

00:22:37
Speaker 2: Let me ask, you thought I didn't know that? It is like a switch one you thought me.

00:22:42
Speaker 8: I didn't know that.

00:22:44
Speaker 2: You thought I wasn't telling.

00:22:46
Speaker 1: That you the win I should come from yo, think nigga tole you for the Rocky ship.

00:22:54
Speaker 3: Now Joe trying to say, is no such thing as dressing age us being.

00:23:00
Speaker 1: Known as one thing? I don't think. I don't think there's a thing that's dressing your age. I think there's a thing that's dressing your wage. I just wage appropriate, not age appropriate. Clean he offer.

00:23:15
Speaker 3: The people that understand the difference between age wage.

00:23:18
Speaker 1: Shit, you don't know the difference between age and waging. You out the loop, nigga. That's pretty simple. I mean, even for the most part, I just how I feel. Man. When it comes to fashion, it's all about who you are, man, It's all about your personality, what makes you feel good, what makes you feel confident, what makes you feel flying. And that's all I've been doing. I haven't been doing to anything too special. I got a different aesthetic than most people and things like that, and it kind of connected to the masses and things like that. But I haven't done nothing different than what I've seen outside on the street, callers from the hustlers, and bits and pieces from television, and I get my staff from so many different array of different things, you know what I mean, From past things that I've seen even to now. I mean, it's this is all how I feel in the day and things like that. People get caught up in thinking that fashion or having style has to do with a name brand, when it really doesn't. It's all about you. You you're the name brand. How you put that ship on just because it has a name? Random? Mean that ship is looking good when you got it on. That's what I'll be trying to tell people things like that. I mean, like ship, I bought some ship from Walmart and looks probably look better than you. And you got some ship on from from Louis and ship like that. It's all about who rocking and taking shut Louis hooding. No, no, no, no, I think it's Louis.

00:24:35
Speaker 2: Damn you man, Well listen, the fly is this podcast. I don't know if you've been too dead, But we bought more ship.

00:24:45
Speaker 3: We just would get We just we just got a couple of friends and he's making us losing.

00:24:51
Speaker 2: All right, we throw that ship on, gay, That's okay. When can I get you to rewind the time? Will you ever rewinded?

00:25:01
Speaker 1: No? Not that type of person. You just won't. Nah, I'm just not that type of person. I mean, I put a lot of work in to be here this long tip to see these grades. God bless my uncle Clinton. He used to have a face full of grades in the bid. He's pretty much the reason why I grew my bed. When I was coming up, the bed was always fly and I watched his big go from black to grade and with silver, and he always kept that thing lining up. It was just dope. And I was like, man, he respected his age and respected the work he put in. He was like, I ain't with no dying. I'm not doing none of that and I kind of not do it effectively. And I love it.

00:25:36
Speaker 6: Now.

00:25:36
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00:25:53
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00:26:01
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00:26:08
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00:26:15
Speaker 2: Your hero. You're a hero to your family. You provide, you provide passion.

00:26:26
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00:26:36
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00:26:37
Speaker 1: Yeah, I take care. I take care of everybody in my family, everybody, everybody, take care of the bills, everything. You know what I mean. It's my it's my pleasure. It's my pleasure. No, you do everything.

00:26:49
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00:26:52
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00:26:55
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00:28:10
Speaker 4: I recently saw a clip on the Instagram where a young kid was comparing you to Nas and saying that you got big hits you y'all. He looked to you, He learned how to wear the BB Simon belt from you, He got his swag.

00:28:34
Speaker 2: Like, how crazy is that?

00:28:36
Speaker 4: Because in my era, you know what I'm saying, Nas is like a god in my in my era too to be compared me.

00:28:45
Speaker 2: Let me not, let me let me make that young kid out, Let me get let me, let me let me get young Andy. We loved that he loved you. I want you. Let's break this down.

00:28:53
Speaker 1: I admired Nas. Remember Na's first record that Barbaru came out when I was in eleventh grade. So Nas was my idol when I was young, like you did, came to dressing, the world, play the music, everything. I was a superiod Nas fan period. I'd never take that away from him. But then as I got in the game, you got to realize that your rivals will be idols, and not to take anything away from that. I developed my own style and my own lane that these kids start to gravitate towards to towards to the same way I gravit gravitated towards Nas when I was younger, and things like that. It's a whole different, whole different generation. You're talking about ninety four ninety three. I was in eleventh grade. It's twenty twenty five. There's a big gap there, you know what I mean. And I want people to understand that. So when Shorty's telling people that year he's twenty some years old, that goes to show the part of the era that he's in that I came in into light and started going crazy. That these kids love me. They don't really know who Nas is if he's twenty two he's born in three not all of them. Some of them though, you know what I mean, Yes, but it's that music. No. Some kids no, no, I love that, some kids that love hiphops. But their kid, Yeah, he's your son, he's your son, he's your son, my son, my son. Can't tell you one nives record. You're like, let's not let's let's keep it a buck here, let's keep it. Let's keep let's let's keep it a buck. Let's keep it a buck because you'll bring it up. There must be some type of misconception or what's that word of when it comes to Jim Jones and what Jim Jones have done in this game. A lot of these rappers made him take the darkies. A lot of these rappers have done a tremendous job. And I take nothing away from them, but they forget I got a hell of a catalog. Meet Jim Jones myself, Gold Records, Platinum Records, Gold record, gold album's platinum. You know me, Jim Jones, No diplomats, no nobody else me Jim Jones. Check nine track record, then check everybody else track record. Can go to the billboards and check all my entries and check all them niggas entries and ship like that. I'm not taking nothing away from nobody, but I hear the comparisons, and then niggas be trying to act funny when it comes No, I've been spanking a lot of this ship. I'm talking about the industry I've been putting on. So let's not get into that way. We're getting the numbers, and I got to show you the statistics of what I've done. You heard to what other people was done. You heard them. You want to go to the billboard entries, pull up now his billboard entries and pull up my billboard entries.

00:31:27
Speaker 2: Listen, we can't compare it to what I'm trying to.

00:31:30
Speaker 1: You know, I want to go there. No, no, no, I want to go down the line now because going down to line No, he's a rapper and I'm a round you know.

00:31:38
Speaker 2: No, let's go statistically feels great.

00:31:41
Speaker 4: No, but I want to go statistically because when people be like I feel.

00:31:48
Speaker 3: About the numbers, my numbers back up and he stepped up to the forefront. Us in the music of hip hop culture.

00:31:57
Speaker 1: Have a problem.

00:31:59
Speaker 6: Is it is it?

00:32:01
Speaker 3: And there's nothing that the world goes off numbers, But in hip hop. We don't pay enough homage to those before us the correct way.

00:32:12
Speaker 2: And sometimes it's even myself, so it gets no other genre of music.

00:32:19
Speaker 1: Fucking I don't even know who to is.

00:32:23
Speaker 5: Yeah, but you understand hip hop is like is never gonna say that about hip hop? As like basket Jarma Rad get on the call with Lebron you want to kill.

00:32:34
Speaker 1: This is what this is about. Any of that ship is. This is what this is. This is what this is about. There's nothing that this never is me putting me up against anybody. I'm taking me every time, every time, category me, every category. I'll get busy.

00:32:51
Speaker 2: Started officer post saying you grew up watching not the only probably didn't take that away. The only situation I'm saying now to you right there is no kids worship you. It's starting.

00:33:03
Speaker 1: No.

00:33:03
Speaker 2: No, I'm not doing this. I'm not doing I did not know because you're really friends with him, You not me.

00:33:11
Speaker 1: I don't know him.

00:33:12
Speaker 2: He's a beautiful guy.

00:33:15
Speaker 1: He don't be mad at your well. I'm not bring my name up in that conversation, bro, Like, come on, nobody, I'm not gonna talk to do that hot minds every time people not doing do listen, niggas don't even know about the audio. Talk. Can we talk?

00:33:42
Speaker 4: Can we talk about all right? I love this interview although it was very painful. You had a tough time.

00:33:53
Speaker 2: When I seen you. I don't forget where it was at, if it was hot.

00:33:56
Speaker 4: Ninety seven or something, when you were just saying, yo, you're family man. You never made no excuses even when you went through tough times. You know, you took care of your family. They never knew you was going through tough times. I applawed you with that interview. I feel like that's one of them classic interviews that stands out to me in hip hop music. Do you feel like after that interview now, do you feel like that's what you was talking about? Like, I'm gonna fight my way back to the top, and I feel good right now about where I'm at in the world because I love that interview.

00:34:33
Speaker 1: Interview was just a test the way I was at the time and the things that I knew I had to do in order for me to progress. He bought their temperature back. Then this ship off and on.

00:34:47
Speaker 2: I got different characters.

00:34:48
Speaker 1: I gotta play. We talk about the sport and I'm gonna go You heard me talk.

00:34:51
Speaker 2: About let's talk about it.

00:34:52
Speaker 4: Let's talk about But that's the interview and the passion you had behind that.

00:34:57
Speaker 1: I still got the same passion as you can see you hear. I'm a passionate brother. I wear my heart on my sleeve. I cry a lot of shit like that. I'm very emotional. So when people talk about me, I got to stand up for me because nobody else is going to stand up for me. As you see, I fight all my battles on my own. I take losses and I take my ones the same way. You're heard the same smirk, just like this. Let's get this correct, because you know the media has stressed this shit so many different ways. When they see me get excited, I get excited because I'm a very passionate person. Everybody knows us, and I said, man, when you talk about me, I'm always gonna pick me first. But as a fan, one of the biggest fans of A Knaves, I know what his albums were for. Word back and forth like that was my ror when I was first coming outside, and things like that. Nas I wrote the playbook for how we was running the streets and things that. He also dressed the way we was running the streets back then and things like that, and not to take him out and away from my hall of niggas, but Nas had a hold on us and shit like that when we was younger and things like that. The same way Pod had a hold on us. But from New York City. He came with a whole different flavor in a different case at the time that was well needed. It switched from what we heard, and Big Daddy came to a whole nother way of hustlers, was talking and rhymen and things like that, and everybody understood that. Like you know, he was like, I can never take away anything that he's done in the game. I can't, you heard, And that's not it. But as a competitive man, that's all I'm doing is popping my ship and this is what hip hop is about. But for the most part, I got no problem with no South to noa South to all.

00:36:21
Speaker 4: The most influence you now that you did, you said that from from growing up artists who's been so you could even to this day, who's most.

00:36:31
Speaker 2: Who named some at so you music or whatever year whatever.

00:36:36
Speaker 1: Rock Cam Nas, Big Daddy, Carrius one uh No col G hool G. I'm going down the line. Now you have going down a loud You're gonna make me. That's good ship, you know what I mean? Like you, like you, you want to do you wanted a few people that persevered from the cool gi errors and that like that. You did, like you, like you did, like you. Gotta always remember that. I don't know if you ever sit down and think about that, Like, Yo, we've been watching you for a long time and things like that on LLLL Buster Fat Joe, who else got a lot of it's a lot of It's I'm a hip hop. I'm a hip hop. I'm a hip hop baby. I used to Rick watch Ralph McDaniels every day after school. I want to see every bit of videos everything. I want to see all of that you heard, like I knew everything about that.

00:37:28
Speaker 2: You heard, like that channel still the fat back TV?

00:37:32
Speaker 1: Yeah you had, you had and you had to turn it back. And then was thirteen you had to turn the thirteen. You had to turn the thirteen. You thirty one, yeah, thirteen, Yeah, yeah, they don't know about that. I guess calikover and the days.

00:37:47
Speaker 4: Tell me some of the things you're doing right now, some of the things you turn into the journeyst I'm not.

00:37:56
Speaker 1: I just actually I'm kind of excited. I just brought a major facil in the Bronx. What I'm doing an incredible content space, and I'm opening the doors to some incredible content creators and influencers and streamers and gamers and things like that. Social my officer. There's a bit of a headquarters. I'll be setting up the Drip Report news news room and there and things like that like that.

00:38:20
Speaker 2: I ain't see one in a while.

00:38:24
Speaker 1: Do everything myself now. It's a beautiful thing. So you know, I'm i'ma be running a lot of TV shows out of there. I got like two podcasts set up in their studio. It's a beautiful thing, you know what I mean. So that's one of the things that I'm excited that I've been working on on. You know, the music is out right now. The albums are doing pretty good. Thank you for everybody that's been supporting the album at the church steps shouts. All my artists have been supporting me shout space. So that made the movies about to drop. The movie will be out in the the.

00:38:52
Speaker 2: Movie I wanted to be in the movie.

00:38:54
Speaker 1: I just ain't. I missed it got two days of reh I'm doing it. I want to do it.

00:39:01
Speaker 2: Let me take me a priest. No, I'm in, I'm in. I want to be in the movie.

00:39:09
Speaker 4: I believe in your creativity. I believe in your drive. And when I seen you shooting the movie, I didn't know how to tell you. Yo, Jim, give me a little five minutes of fame. I want to be a little pastor.

00:39:23
Speaker 2: I want to be god father seen Si. You know what I'm saying.

00:39:31
Speaker 4: Frank's life and that ship right there I talk to the one second that slim Loop.

00:39:37
Speaker 2: She was about to blow up in the shit I distracted him called blew up. You know what I'm saying.

00:39:42
Speaker 1: But this movie.

00:39:44
Speaker 2: Tell us about this movie. I love when you do that.

00:39:47
Speaker 4: I love everything you're saying right now, how you take matters into your own hands. I always get upset when I look at mine career because you don't. I discovered Big Pun, Rebbee, Ma, DJ Khaled, Cool and Dre. I could I could tell you who I discovered. The one person that fumbled the bag with was Tony Sunshine, and he was incredible ahead of his time. And I kept waiting for the record label to do it and now we know how to do it ourself. And if this was years back, I would have been able to blow them up because we know what we're doing now. So I love that you said you create movies in your studio space podcast this. I love that you taking matters into your own hand to push the future forward.

00:40:36
Speaker 2: That's a that's a commendable thing right there. You know what I'm saying.

00:40:39
Speaker 1: I mean, we gotta do some looking at these youngsters making money off these off these streamings and all these things, and you know, as businessmen, we got to learn how to diversify. And this is the direction that hip hop and UH entertainment is going, so we got to be on top of everything. So I need a piece of that too. That's how I'm thinking. That's how I think of across the board. Like I'm not trying to get left in what was going on yesterday. I'm trying to be on what's going on tomorrow. And I know tomorrow never comes, that's all. You got to be prepared for it. I'm talking about.

00:41:09
Speaker 4: I know exactly what you talked about. I feel the same way you talking to you preach it to the converted, you know.

00:41:15
Speaker 1: Blessed man, how about y'all is so so I could say I honestly know both of yourll since ninety seven, I'll say this ninety seven and watching both of y'all just go crazy in the game as from a fans perspective before I actually got to be in it and shit like that, and then seeing YO just make so much money and just going I remember watching you on MTV. You had like the drop top Bentley black shit, I believe it was. I was just like, oh, like, I got to get this bag. I don't know what the fuck is this fuck is going on? And Jada and niggas used to always come to Harlem. They be with d they got all types of cars on two fifth and shit like that. I'm like, a man, what the fuck? So, how does it feel to know that you lived a life like this for so long? Like you know what I mean? Like, would you trade it? Not at all? Would you do it all over again? Would you would you change something? Do it all over the same.

00:42:11
Speaker 3: If I could do it all over, I would just probably listen a little more fixed, a little bit of you know, situations like cracks that I had a counting situations with, you know, they put lean on the accounting shit fucked up and you know what I mean, So a little shit like that, but it was also learning lessons then never let it happen again, and you know what I mean, and get shit straight as you get older.

00:42:39
Speaker 1: But yeah, I would have did.

00:42:40
Speaker 3: A little more lesson and listening and paid a little more attention to the business aspect of it at a young age instead of just being worrying about my verses and rhuynds and you know, the wrong shit.

00:42:55
Speaker 1: Other than that, I.

00:42:56
Speaker 3: Would have did everything exactly the same about you.

00:43:01
Speaker 2: You know, my favorite record right now is it's not enough. It's not enough.

00:43:06
Speaker 4: Like I hear this shit like when I hear it's not enough, I hear a different way. They got guns, but it's not enough. They got dudes, it's not enough, Like I really that shit is cemented in my brain right And when you ask me, I say to yourself, it's not enough. And when you talk about finances.

00:43:27
Speaker 1: It's not enough.

00:43:28
Speaker 4: Success, it's not enough. Everything's not enough. I'm not fulfilled, my cup is not full. I don't feel cool, and I'm gonna be a man about this that I came in the same game with guys and they got to the billy and I ain't get to the billy.

00:43:47
Speaker 2: And just like he said, I fucked up.

00:43:50
Speaker 4: I was in the club seven days a week, thirty dudes, buying fifty bottles every day, fifty steaks Jimmy's Ron Scafe.

00:43:57
Speaker 2: Oh, I wasted a lot of time. When you ask me, sure, I'm grateful.

00:44:03
Speaker 4: Sure, I'm thankful to God that I'm in the position that we are, and you people might look at it it's like, yo, he's successful, it's not enough. And so I know you could relate to this because you saying the same shit I'm saying in a different way. It's not enough like I want and I'm not lying guys, So maybe y'all can understand me a little bit more because people get a little mad at me because they think a brag and I think a big shit.

00:44:31
Speaker 2: That's whoy.

00:44:32
Speaker 4: I am right, And so I want to be the fat guy painted in the picture a hundred years from now and great grandchildren to be like, we're here because of fat Joseph Carter Jr.

00:44:47
Speaker 2: One hundred years ago.

00:44:48
Speaker 1: This man made a.

00:44:49
Speaker 4: Billion dollars and left it to us in the trust, and we're still eating off this guy. I swear to God, that's what I want and if everybody could do it, do it, so it ain't attainable.

00:45:02
Speaker 2: I just realized I could have did it, but I was bullshitting a lot.

00:45:06
Speaker 4: So now when you see me, I'm on my business ventures on another level, just all my shit is like and life is life, and you know I'm projected to win. I'm telling you, I'm projected to win everything. I'm telling you I'm projected to go there like I'm on that, Like I know you know what I'm saying. I'm like, you know what, the football player, hang on to the back of the jersey.

00:45:31
Speaker 2: Tryer.

00:45:31
Speaker 4: I'm on the back of the jersey. I got so many arrows pointed the right way, but it got to happen. I want to know what it feels like when.

00:45:40
Speaker 2: That level of success happens, when you could turn around and be.

00:45:44
Speaker 1: Like, that's it. I guess. I guess we all have a different painting of success. I feel like my mistake was I depended on people to do things that I knew I knew how to do on my own. That's from accounting to engineering, to marketing to doing videos to doing movies. I didn't I learned that twenty years later. Like yo, bro, all that shit you let people do and fit and they feel for you and shit like that, you get to do it on your own and been up you're hurt. Cool, But being up is one thing. Making a billion dollars is another thing. Yeah, we always love to make a billion dollars. From my perspective, money doesn't move me, like like people, do you know what I mean? So maybe I might not leave money here for generations to come, but I will leave a blueprint or.

00:46:31
Speaker 2: What it would take for you to get to a bag.

00:46:34
Speaker 1: And I do know that my whole family and my bloodline going. No, this nigga was a dog, and if you follow what he did, God bless you, because you're gonna go somewhere that you didn't know you could go. You heard. And I think for me, that's worth more than any money that I could leave, and God bless me. I hope I leave all the money in the world, but I think that blueprint would be strong enough for my son to take with him and go crazy.

00:46:55
Speaker 2: We got that, we got my son is right outside. We got that where.

00:47:02
Speaker 4: It's safe for me to say we grew up with not much and then we want to make things better for our kids. And historically, when you look at successful people that come from nothing because we protected our kids so much, they're not hustlers like like us or we want him to be hustles.

00:47:25
Speaker 2: Do you find that in hip hop? Do you find that?

00:47:29
Speaker 1: Or you know?

00:47:30
Speaker 4: That's how I look at it, just with everybody, I mean billionaires, I mean people who make.

00:47:35
Speaker 1: Money Bailey, right, but you have if you have a son, your son vicharacter is gonna grow in to who you are. So if your son knows you to be a hustler, guess what's gonna happen for your son when his back is against the wall and daddy ain't around no more. Everything he's seen daddy doing, daddy teaching, he gonna start to instill. Is He's not gonna sit there to be like a child. You're heard like I watched my son closely and then his manners, every how you move and things like that, and the rebellion, the rebel with him that he shows me and shit like that only shows that he's trying to show me. Bro I'm about to get on my ship. I mean, like the things some of the things that he do, like these kids ain't no chumps. Just because we uh raise them right, just because we uh cover them up, just because we wanted to have a better life of them, doesn't mean that they don't have to hustle in them. They just have better, better chances of better odds, are doing something way different than we ever had a chance to do them. I agree.

00:48:31
Speaker 4: I love that answer. You know, I ain't gonna lie to you. I love that answer because we just want what's best for our kids. We want them to step up to the occasion. And I just think like parenting by parenting they needs. Every kid is different, takes a village, and they don't give us no instructions for parents, no fucking And that's what I'm trying to give them now. If you don't know where I've been going this whole interview is I've been going about family and fighting through shit and going through this this whole infabous.

00:49:07
Speaker 1: That's what I see in you.

00:49:08
Speaker 4: I see passion, I see drive, I see relentlessness. I see you working for your family. I see you working for your team. You putting guys on while you still trying to get to where you go.

00:49:19
Speaker 1: That's the thing. See this game of smoking mirrors. I don't want nobody to watch what I say, watch what I do in the midst of me talking shit, I'm still getting up, getting to the bag. I'm still working, and I'm still going to the office and still make sure everything has to be done under my roof for me to live and be successful about here. You know what I mean, Like never forget that bottom line, I'm still doing all the things I need to do in the midst of the circus that you'll see going on.

00:49:41
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, And they see it. You know what I'm saying. What I'm trying to tell you is if I see it, they see it.

00:49:47
Speaker 1: That's for anybody. Like a nigga told me one day, even if you don't got a job, you get up. You get up, my mind, You get up and go outside and act as if you've got a job. Don't stay in no house. Go outside and hustle. Go outside and find some gasside and something broke, Get your ass up, man.

00:50:02
Speaker 4: I come from my father. My father was an immigrant from Cuba. My father was a master baker. He had an argument with his boss. He was thirteen years in the bakery. He had a argument with his boss he thought he couldn't get fired.

00:50:15
Speaker 2: He got fired. The next day.

00:50:19
Speaker 4: We went with money he had saved up to say, like a g this was a long time ago, and we went and bought toys in twenty third Street and Broadway brought it up to where my stoes at. That's why I got my first up and YC store one five eight to Broadway and was selling toys and snowstorms, hustling the little motorcycles and baseball bats and shit for double the money. That's where I learned to be an entrepreneur. When the summer came, my father was the old man you.

00:50:46
Speaker 2: Saw with the icy.

00:50:48
Speaker 4: He made no excuses. That's why I don't make excuses. We just got better situations at getting to where we're getting. And thank God for hip hop that the music you see you still you still you still an MC, meaning like you still are on that. I was like that for a very long time till I said to myself, I said like this. For a long time, I lived off for shows and I'd be like, yo, I got two three shows this month, this is money. And then I realized, well, shit gets slow. I got to diversify and find other ways to get money.

00:51:27
Speaker 2: You understand what I'm saying. So I was so then I had to learn how to make businesses and do shit like that to this.

00:51:33
Speaker 1: You just said what you said, Nigga told me, Nigga, stop worrying about how to make money and learn how to make business. Because you make business, that's they're gonna make the money for you. You said it. I had to learn that, bro, because I wasn't fucking making music off of money off of music for a long time. Like Bro, I didn't had no hit, So I had to figure out how to make business to make myself some money and still sustain this lifestyle because at the end of the day, it's all about sustainability this lifestyle, no matter how you look at it. We exton stone up.

00:52:04
Speaker 2: They don't understand. I'm gonna play that I'm older than you.

00:52:08
Speaker 1: Thing right here, thirty years of sustainability, your niggas is on.

00:52:15
Speaker 4: What I'm trying to tell you is that we know guys, especially us three, and we salute the guys because I salute the guy I knew who was getting money in eighty eight and be like yo, such and such like I'll salute them. Look, I'll never I never look at people. My lenses never look at people at they down moment. I always remember when they was on top, or when they inspired me, or.

00:52:41
Speaker 1: They was rocking.

00:52:42
Speaker 4: But a lot of the guys that I grew up with or I knew, had runs and that's over now. And I'm not mad at them. If they got a legit job and they moving on with life or whatever, I salute them. But you know how hard it is to be fly for thirty years? To walk into the casket? Fly, you gotta walk into the casket, fly, Yo.

00:53:04
Speaker 1: How you walk into the cask?

00:53:06
Speaker 4: Well, you don't walk into the casket. But the point you get what I'm saying, No, that's hard. It's like you y'all, don't talk about that old dudes that had it be the same old dudes that radit. You know how crazy that line hits me every time I hear that song and you say that line. They ain't even got to be the purpose, don't even got to be about ratit. It's just about so many guys have runs, and then they start talking about.

00:53:38
Speaker 2: Yo, I used to be this. I used to be that, Yo, I used to have this cool.

00:53:42
Speaker 1: I'm not mad I used to but don't make it seem like they used to is relevant. Now I'm with a good. I'm with a good I'm with a good. Glory story finished you heard, I'm with that. I love all the old hustle stories, but some old hustles carry it the wrong way and no disrespect.

00:53:58
Speaker 4: I'm looking at YouTube of them, got an AARP car talking that shit, no teeth, still talking that shit.

00:54:05
Speaker 2: I'm like, yo, bro, you can't hold.

00:54:07
Speaker 4: A smack twenty twenty five and he ain't carrying it right, so you shouldn't.

00:54:10
Speaker 1: You should be homeed. Don't even mention it because what you're talking about and how you looking is not reflecting on what we're doing out here, you know what I mean, and not taking nothing away from you. You can tell your story and be humble about it, but if you're not looking the part to get into the bag, your story means nothing in the eyes of people that's really doing it. And you're trying to prove a point. And we're not talking down to you, but come on, you're heard like.

00:54:32
Speaker 4: We love you and we big you up, and we probably the only guys that are pulled a car over and be like, yoh, my hustles, homee me this and this and that. But then it's like cool. If you ain't got that run no more. You get yourself a job, you take care of your family.

00:54:48
Speaker 2: You can solute your same.

00:54:49
Speaker 1: Way, don't.

00:54:51
Speaker 2: Most don't talk.

00:54:52
Speaker 1: I know a bunch of old hustlers that used to get money, that got good jobs. Right now, when I see them, I still praise them the same way I praise them when I was younger.

00:55:01
Speaker 2: I'm the same way. So we preaching the same thing. But but there's a few of them.

00:55:07
Speaker 1: They missed me. Oh no.

00:55:11
Speaker 2: They have a conversation walking control and so.

00:55:15
Speaker 4: You're looking at him and you're like, yo, y'all talking about like I keep I don't think you know what it.

00:55:23
Speaker 1: Is like I feeling like they gotta say that some type of yo, but entitlement vicariously through the hustle of shape rule that they had.

00:55:31
Speaker 2: Like you know what I'm saying, like, Yo, your brother forever old because what they did back then?

00:55:37
Speaker 1: Bro, what are you talking about? Bro? I don't even know you say.

00:55:40
Speaker 4: For my error, I'm sitting here, go to Fat Joe with the hoodie right once again, got a hundred guys outside. You keep a hooding no, no, always always back in the day.

00:55:55
Speaker 2: Right, I walk in the bathroom. It's a cod Diesels his stuard. He's you out of this like you look like you had to refrigerated.

00:56:04
Speaker 1: You know.

00:56:05
Speaker 2: The man came home just now.

00:56:08
Speaker 4: It's got the bathroom got a long mirror, right, and the man sees me and he goes by the way.

00:56:17
Speaker 2: I've never been extorted in my life.

00:56:18
Speaker 1: I don't understand it.

00:56:20
Speaker 2: You got to kill me. It just doesn't exist in my DNA. The man looks at me and said, ten years, ten years. Now, you know you think you know these people some ten years ten years? I did ten. So I'm looking at the mirror. I'm taking the piss. Somebody got the pay it's ten years. I'm like, no, I'm listening. No, it really happened, like I'm being out of So I'm like, he's ten years. So I'm thinking he.

00:56:52
Speaker 4: Thinks I got him in trouble for ten years, and so I'm trying to hear him marls ten years. I've been reading the magazines, but hearing you talking this shit straight up.

00:57:04
Speaker 2: You told me just like that. We're talking off the hearing you talking this shit. I come home.

00:57:09
Speaker 4: Everybody's saying, don't fuck with Fat Joe. This, this Dad, this, he said, I don't believe it. I had a hundred guys outside that door. I said, I don't believe it. And you gonna do this hard way or the nice way. Somebody got to pay for my ten years. So of course for me, I'm looking in the mirror and I'm like, finally, one nigga tries me. Finally. I'm you, man, I'm looking at the mirror. I'm like this Now, it's one thing to disrespect Fat Joe. But we in the bathroom and the.

00:57:56
Speaker 2: Toilet. Hold on, what Jo, this is Joe, Big Joe all outside, But listen what I'm saying.

00:58:02
Speaker 4: The door opens, the door to somebody taking the ship and this my brother surge in surges like these guys, they can't take you violating Fat Yoe on noeh.

00:58:17
Speaker 2: Like he can't breathe. He's like crawling on this. It's in the middle.

00:58:23
Speaker 1: I see him.

00:58:23
Speaker 2: I'm like, he's like like they're talking to Joe like this.

00:58:29
Speaker 1: Ah.

00:58:29
Speaker 4: He's grabbing the wall like he can't believe, he can't he's hyper mentally. He cannot believe this. Right, man, we put the beats on this guy. So legend not a hundred, just us too. He drank pisk water and everything. And I gotta salute the man because he never I never heard of him again.

00:58:52
Speaker 2: I never seen him.

00:58:53
Speaker 1: Again, but drank love yong, y'all. Puerto Rican niggas was putting beats on niggas back in the day from the fever on up. I've been outside so what like ninety four ninety three, y'all niggas the rubber I'm talking about, so God bless big pump, Bro. I've not seen pun punish so many niggas, Bro, like so many I've seen punk takets chain off in the tunnel and punish to punishing, punished like no pun intended, but pun intended punish niggas like yo, Bro, Big pun was yo Bro. Y'all, y'all, y'all was some wild Puerto Ricans. Bro. I cannot lie, Bro. Just looking at the history of this watch yoh.

00:59:40
Speaker 4: Listen, Man Pun had this thing called nos to the brain. I swear to god he had this think. I'll tell you a quick one, but you know, you know, I'm like the biggest lie on the internet. Now they call me the cap King, right. I used to play softball. This is an ill story. I used to play softba on my block. So this dude walked by. You know, I'm from the plot man, I'm from them projects my whole life. I don't care if I'm fat Joe the rapper, somebody who grew up with me. They might talk funny to me and you'll be like, Yo, what the fuck?

01:00:13
Speaker 1: They talk like?

01:00:13
Speaker 4: You know, we know each others's kindergarten. You ain't shit bullshit? Picture you that He's going crazy? Is the dude I grew up with? Right, Fuck you suck? You know what we're doing all that? So Pun was my number one fan When I play softball, Pun sitting the dugout every game. He will watch every game, right, So Punk started talking to him, Yo, what's stupid this stuff?

01:00:39
Speaker 1: They arguing?

01:00:39
Speaker 2: So, you know the city park they got, the city park that got the gates.

01:00:46
Speaker 4: I watched Pun bade him to come close enough, and he punched them through the gate, damn and knocked them out. They have to bring the ambulance through the gate. I'm talking about the hand didn't go through the gate, but you know what I'm saying, Chris.

01:01:02
Speaker 2: He got and yeah, yeah, exactly through the boom nose to the brain. This and no it was yo.

01:01:15
Speaker 4: He had legendary strength. Uh, this is that boost mobile cash apt for that ass. The Joe Jada Show with the Capos.

01:01:27
Speaker 2: Thanks for having a guest today. Capo status makes some noise for my brother.

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