Unsolved Mysteries - KVS Edition

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Welcome back to Katching Up With Katie.  So much—we honestly didn’t have much to   talk about today until about an hour ago. So, Abigail and Lindsey—Lindsey was also
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part of it. She’s not currently… are you  even hooked up? No? Okay. Lindsey’s here.
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I thought we were just switching out. Yes,  we are, but you have a mic in front of you,   so it looked like you were just over in the  corner. We’ve got to get a setup for five.
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Anyway, this morning we had quite the eventful  morning, and we’ve refrained from chatting about
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it because we want to tell the story to Matt and  Nate about what we experienced. I doubt they’re
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going to find it that entertaining though. How do you know?  There’s a good chance. I just have a feeling.
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Okay, maybe it was a “had to be there” kind  of thing. I don’t know. But every week I
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talk about how calving season’s coming.  And literally, I was making a TikTok as   we were driving into the pasture. I knew you were going to do it.
Calving season is off to a START!
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I’m just kidding. All right—he brought a cookie.  So we were driving into the pasture because  we check cows every morning. We went into the
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Hereford pasture, and there had been a couple  we’d been suspicious of, especially Lulu. We’re
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driving around looking at them, and all of  a sudden, in the first group, we didn’t even   think anything of it. Then all of a sudden you  were both like, “There’s a baby literally right
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next to us!” Like, right next to the golf cart. We almost had my mom’s dog on the podcast today
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because she just got a dog. You haven’t  even met it, Nate. It’s pretty cute.  What kind of dog is it? It’s a Jack Russell.
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So she got a dog, and I’ve been keeping it  some. She was almost going to be on here,   but we ended up running late. Anyway, we had this  tiny nine-week-old puppy on the golf cart with us,
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and she’s squirming and not behaving. We see this baby calf and think, okay,   it’s fine. But then we look over at  the other end of the pasture. Lulu’s
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down there—the one we’d been thinking was  going to calve. That’s really suspicious.
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We pull up and we’re like, maybe she hasn’t,  but she’s about to. And then all of a sudden,   a little head pops up—but a big butt. Okay, what’s the butt? Tell them, Abigail.
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It was on the other side of the fence. The baby. There was no spot anywhere near
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where—first of all, the fence is too  tall for her to have gotten it over.
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And there’s no spots nearby for it to crawl  under either. So we’re trying to brainstorm,
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like, how did this even happen? Lulu was keeping her cool better than I   think some would. We figured it out eventually,  but at first I called my dad because Jonathan
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and Austin were both an hour away working on  something else I can’t talk about. So there
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wasn’t anybody I could just call to come help. Here’s my thought process: on the other side of
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the fence, where this baby was, that’s where Sugar  Daddy the bull was. He’s not mean or anything,
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but that’s also where all the later mamas that are  going to be calving later were. And sometimes when
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they see a side-by-side or golf cart, they come  running because they think they’re getting fed.
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I didn’t want to bring their attention over  to this new baby and get it stirred up.
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So we were like, “What do we do?” There was a gate pretty far down the
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fence line. That baby had to have run a long way.  We went to the gate, and I walked the fence line
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to the baby. I’m going to have chiggers—I  already know. It was very grown-up of me.  But I walked up to the baby. It hadn’t eaten yet,  and it had to have rolled under the fence at that
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gate.There was a spot at the gate that it probably  could have fit underneath. Yeah—that’s the only
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place we could find. So she had to have had it  at the gate, and it rolled underneath before she
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could even clean it off. It still had all this  dried, mucusy stuff all over it. She hadn’t even
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gotten to clean it, and it had already gotten up. The gate or the calf?  The calf. Okay, I didn’t know if you saw stuff on the gate.
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No, no. We found pieces of  placenta there that she had eaten.  So the calf must have gotten up and walked  the fence line, and Lulu just walked with it
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until they ended up trapped in the corner.  I’m so glad we went and checked. Actually,
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I’m glad you were late, because then we were  like, “Let’s go check calves.” It all worked out.
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We walked up there—it was weak, it hadn’t  eaten. I just scooped it up and carried it.
More crazy calving stories!
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That thing was heavy. My arms were  shaking. Then Abigail rescued me.
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It’s a bull calf. We’ll weigh it later—probably  50s or 60s. I don’t want to make myself sound
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weak, so maybe 80—but no, it was in the  60s. Usually when we weigh our calves,
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they’re anywhere from the 50s to the 70s.  A really big one might be 90. Anyway,
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Abigail carried it the last part of the way  through the fence, and then we sat it by a tree
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because Lulu had made her way down the pasture. I’m so sorry, but Herefords are stupid. They make
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things difficult. They don’t know what’s going  on. She was like, “Oh, the baby’s out of my   sight. I don’t have a baby. What baby? I don’t  have a baby anymore. I’m just going to eat.”
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We set the calf out in the middle of the field.  It was in her sight. She looked at it like,
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“That’s not my baby. Mine left  this morning. That one’s not mine.”
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So then—baby takes a golf cart ride. Baby gets  loaded on the back of the golf cart. Now we’ve
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got a puppy and a calf on the golf cart. We take  it around to the other side of the fence and drop
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it off. It’s weak, so it’s not going anywhere. By this point, after I’d already called my dad,
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now he shows up—after we’d done all the hard  work. I’m like, “You stay there, I got this.”
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So we take the golf cart and push Lulu  towards the baby. Then she’s like,
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“My baby! My baby!” And then all was fine. But then—we started questioning the other
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mom. They could have been twins, because it  was just weird. The other mom didn’t seem
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very interested in her calf, but there was  only one spot of afterbirth. So we thought,
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maybe she had the first calf, cleaned it, it  ate, and then the second one rolled under the
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fence. She gets distraught and leaves that calf. That’s what we were thinking. But then we watched
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it nurse from another mom. So we figured—even if  they were twins, if that mom is taking care of it,
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we’ll cross the bridge of whose baby it  is later. Lulu was really big, and her
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udder was huge, so maybe twins. DNA will tell us. We’re going to separate them this evening and put
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them in a smaller lot together. If they both  keep taking care of their respective babies,
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then cool—that’s their babies. But it’ll be  funny if the one taking care of the possible twin
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pops out another calf. Then she’ll have two. What we have to pay attention to is if she does
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that and someone else takes hers. They just keep  swapping, because all her colostrum will be gone.
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Yeah, it’s kind of like Dirty Santa. Everyone  just keeps swapping, just passing the gift.
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We’ve had calves steal others before. I remember  a video of one of my red cows having her first
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baby. They get so confused—Herefords  just don’t know what’s happening.
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Actually, it was Kiki who was born—she’s a  mama we’re watching this year. She had been
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born maybe an hour prior. Her mom had calved  before, she was fine. She’s like, “Okay, I know
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what’s happening. You can do it if you want.” So Fiona is in labor, feet sticking out. She’s
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having her own calf. But she’s like, “No, this  is my baby.” And she starts cleaning Kiki’s mom’s
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calf. We’re like, “No, honey, yours is literally  sticking out of you.” They just don’t know.
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That’s insane. They don’t know. They don’t know what’s going on.  Like Lulu—in her brain it was like, “No more  baby. Eat. Oh, baby—now other side.” She’s
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just not smart. But she’s pretty. Anyway, that was our morning. So,
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we have two calves on the ground out of 39. This whole story reminded me of the time I
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got in a car crash. I’ll tell you. Oh,
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no one asked? I’ll tell you anyway. We were talking about how the baby was   on the other side of the fence, but like,  there’s no way it could have been on the
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other side of the fence. This reminded me of  a car crash I was in. Same kind of thing—like,   how could it be there? There’s no explanation. So here’s what happened. We were driving down
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the road, and I think there were six of us in  this SUV. Everyone fell asleep. Everyone in
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the whole vehicle—even the driver. So for a  short time, everyone in the car was asleep.
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We went off the road. After a few seconds,  everyone started waking up. We slid sideways
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into a fence and a tree. I woke up  with glass all over me. I’m like,
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“Why are we not on the road?” And they’re  like, “Uh, everyone fell asleep. We crashed.”
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Now the car’s stuck. I get out and I’m looking  around. I see the skid marks from our tires
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leaving the road all the way to where we crashed.  There’s a big road sign on the side of the road,
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and our skid marks—one went underneath  the sign, and another went outside the
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sign. And all I’m thinking is, how did  we not hit that pole in the middle?
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I’m following the skid marks from the road to  the car, and the pole is in the middle. How did
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we not hit the pole? Everyone was like, “Yo,  how did we not hit that pole?” I don’t know.
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That was the end of it, but it was one of those  moments where I thought it had to be a miracle.   Just like how that calf ended up on the other  side of the fence—it seemed unexplainable.
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So this—I thought you were about to say when you  got in a car wreck a baby went out the window   and ended up on the other side of the fence. It’s like when you voluntarily watch Unsolved
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Mysteries and then you’re so frustrated at  the end. That’s how this story makes me feel.
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Why would you even—? It’s like you intentionally   turn on Unsolved Mysteries and then get upset  when they say, “But it was never solved.”
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Exactly. At the end I’m like,  “Wait, so it wasn’t solved?”  Well, I thought it was a miracle. Then why did I even watch this?
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It just makes me so mad. There’s literally a show called Solved Mysteries.  I’ve watched every episode, and I get irritated  at every ending. But you knew it was coming.
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At every ending, I also Googled just to make  sure it was still unsolved. I thought maybe
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they found out later. No—it always is.
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So yeah—two calves out of 39. Here’s the thing. If our cattle sell,
Will I buy something at the cattle sale
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I might end up buying something. I say 39,  but it’ll probably be more. It’s started.
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You’re going to buy one already bred? The one I have my eye on isn’t due until
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February. So I don’t know if I’ll be able to  buy a late calver. But there are some in our   sale we put in because they’re due in March. When you go into an auction, a lot of times
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you’ll have a reserve on certain animals—whether  it’s a horse or a cow—because you’ve put a lot
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of money or effort into them. If the right  buyer isn’t there, you still want to get at   least a minimum amount. So you set a reserve. I believe there are a couple of lots we’ll
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have a reserve on—especially the ones with  specific pregnancies. So we might end up
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with a few late calves if they don’t sell. Does the public know what the reserve is?
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It depends. Some do, some don’t. Do they ever say, “This cow has a $5,000 reserve”?
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Every auction I’ve been to—no. But if the reserve  isn’t met, they go to the top bidder and say,
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“You were off by this much. Do you want  to purchase it at the reserve amount?”
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The point is, it gives it a chance to go higher  than the reserve, but it has to hit at least
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that minimum. Got it.  So yeah, the cattle sale—we usually  have calves being born around then.
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I don’t think we personally have any due  super close to the sale this year, other
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than one. Her due date is before the sale, so  I really hope she’s done before we take her in.
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And it’s in a very peaceful  environment. They’re in good-sized   pens, so if she did calve, it’d be fine. A lot of people have asked me before the
Do we separate moms and babies at the cattle sale?
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cattle sale: “Do you separate the mom and  baby if one’s born there? What if someone
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just wants the mom or just wants the baby?” They’re sold as a pair. It’s a cow-calf pair.   There’s no separation. So don’t worry about that. Cool.
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Are we ready for our special guest? She’s like, “Can I get out of
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this chair, actually, please?” Lindsey, why don’t you hop on over here?
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All right, Lindsey’s here! We’ve done  an episode with Lindsey before—just   getting to know you and whatnot. You’ve been here… let’s see. Almost—
Lindsey
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You’ve been here a quarter. Yeah, since June.  So, we’re going to do Lindsey’s quarterly  review on camera. Just kidding. We’re just going
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to check in—see how things are going. You know, there’s always a wide range of
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comments when we have someone join the team.  Some people think it’s amazing that we hire
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people without prior horse experience. Others  give off kind of a “why not me?” vibe, like,
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“This is so dumb that you hire people  who don’t even know horses.” Honestly,   it’s hilarious that so many thoughts go into it. But we also got super positive feedback from
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the first video about you joining the team  and learning things. So now that it’s been
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a full three months, let’s do a little recap. A little recap, a little catch-up if you will.
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Who’s calling? Looking back with Lindsey.  Okay, we’re going to quiz you again on animal  names. Because you’ve improved, but there’s still
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probably once a day on Snapchat where someone’s  named differently than what we actually call them.
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I was about to just show you all  the bay horses and see if you can—  Who was it she called Beyoncé the other day? Rikki.
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No, it was Beyoncé when we  were taking her to Lexy.
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No—she called Beyoncé Trudy. Yes! She said, “Is that Trudy?”  I was like, “This 14.3 hand mare—is that Trudy?”  I have to remember that Trudy’s the big girl.
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Big Booty Trudy. Yes. Beyoncé also has a big booty,   but she’s little. She’s got her big star though. Anyway—out of the three months, what’s been your
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favorite thing you’ve learned or a new experience?  What is a new thing I’ve experienced…? Well, we  had quite the experience this morning, but—yeah.
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Got a new nickname. I did. “Big White.”  We can’t say that. We can’t say that. Okay, explain the background.
I cannot believe Lindsey said this
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So we were weaning, and Lindsey loves  her sweatshirts—even on 90° days.
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I just had a t-shirt on that day! No, you had a sweatshirt on.  No, I took that off. I had a big white t-shirt. No, it was the sweatshirt—that’s when it happened.
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She had a huge oversized white sweatshirt. Bright,  brand new. So she squatted right next to the fence
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they were walking through. I was like, “Hey, let’s  not sit there, let’s move—you might spook them.”
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And then I trailed off. I said,  “Yeah, they’ll just see a big
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white…” and I never finished it. I didn’t mean  anything negative—I meant like a big white spot.
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After you said that, I looked  down and thought, I’ll just move.
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It didn’t click in my brain that it could be  taken negatively. That’s not how it was meant
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at all. So—BW. Aka Lindsey. B-Dub. Bub. I’m so sorry.
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Anyway—back to the actual question. Things you’ve  learned in three months that are new to you?
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Oh goodness. Learning the animals’ names  has been a lot of fun. I actually challenge
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myself—I do it on Snapchat so people can laugh  with me, especially when I get them wrong.
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I truly don’t mean to, but I’m still  learning. There’s a lot. So learning
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all the mares’ and foals’ names has been fun. I’ve really enjoyed watching the weaning process.
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I never thought of it as something you’d have to  carefully manage, but it takes time and effort.
Cow Names!
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Seeing Ruby go to her new home—that was cool. Maline—you’re way better than me at keeping up
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with socials. Like, you follow  and keep up with everyone.  Oh yeah—I don’t want someone to say, “Hey,  did you see this?” and me be like, “No.”
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Unfortunately, I’m terrible at that. I post  my stuff, manage my comments, then I get off
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my phone. So I’m not as good at keeping up with  everything as I should be. But I appreciate that
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you’re good at it—you keep us in the know. Oh my gosh, I just thought of something.
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The two new calves born today  were boys. One could be Nate.  Nate’s not a cow name. Maybe Nathan. Or Ned. Ned and Nate. I like it. Or Neville.
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We could do Neville Longbottom. Neville Papperman!
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I was thinking of the iCarly guy. I was thinking Neville Longbottom.  This generation says Papperman. I actually like the name
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Neville. Papperman. Or Pepp. Especially after his glow-up.
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Anyway—we’re going to need more N names.  If you missed the last episode, we talked   about how livestock registries  like goats and cows use yearly
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letters. In the Simmental registry, this is  an “N year,” so everything gets an N name.  So far we’ve said: Ned Stark, Neville  Longbottom, Nate the Great. We need
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more suggestions. Norman. Norman’s a classic. Since we sexed a lot of cows at 70 days pregnant,
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a lot of bulls are coming. Lots of boys this year. Speaking of Norman—fun fact. A Norman door is a
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door you approach and can’t tell if you’re  supposed to push or pull. Poorly designed.  I didn’t know that. It’s a bad door. Confusing door. Norman door.
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So we’ll save that name for  your least favorite cow.  The door should always be clear—you shouldn’t  have to put “push” or “pull” on it. Unfortunately,
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Lulu did have a solid black calf. If you look at the hinges,   you’ll know which way it opens. I was responding to Matthew—not
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trying to keep talking about calves in the  middle of the doors conversation. He said,
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“Name Nate an all-black calf,” and I was  like, Lulu did have an all-black calf.  Anyway—Nate. Yeah. So, Lindsey—what has been a  challenge for you in your first three months here?
What challenges has Lindsey experienced
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A challenge? Well, we all know what it   is. I’m just kidding. Just kidding. Meeting the bar, for one.
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What have I struggled with?  What are your weaknesses?  I think one of the things I struggle with is  trying to get Snapchat up. Some days I’m like,
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“Okay, I have enough,” and  it’s 50. And I’m like, okay—no.  So on Snapchat we try to do like a hundred  a day. Generally during work hours,
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if it gets to like 70, then I’ll answer some  questions at the end of the day to get it to 100.
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Sometimes you feel like, “We had so many  from this morning,” and it’s like… 15.  But anyway—that’s one thing. Another thing  has nothing to do with work. It’s just
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the drive. The drive, the drive. That’s it. Is traffic absolutely ridiculous right now?
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So when I’m leaving Nashville, everybody’s coming  back in. On the left side of the highway… highway,
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interstate—whatever it’s called—I don’t  know. I should know that, but I don’t.
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It’s just back-to-back traffic on  the other side, and I’m straight.  What’s your drive these days, time-wise? Some days it’s like 35 minutes. Other days
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it can be 45 to an hour, depending on which way  I take home. I’ve taken probably seven different
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ways home trying to figure out the route. My mom told me to never take the same
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route to work every day, so I try to take a  different one in case you’ve got a stalker.
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What maps do you use? You a Waze girl? Apple Maps? I have used Waze before.
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If you use Waze it will take  you so many different ways.  Yeah, it’s ridiculous. I learned that. I actually  went home a new way the other day for the first
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time in like a year—a way I had not been before. How do you keep finding these new ways?
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Waze. Do you change your little guy?  Yeah, I’ve got a profile. What’s your car?
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Let me check what it is right now. Is it a scooter?  No, it’s not a scooter. I did the thing where  you can customize the little things. I’m a blue
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car right now. Turn right.  I’m a blue car right now. I  switched to blue-car vibes.
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Every time she’s using Waze, it’s like me  talking to her. “Turn right.” And then I say,
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“Slow down, the popo’s here.” Wait—so your little guy is a Lord
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of the Rings-looking dude with a sword? Oh, so you can enter your own voice?  Your own voice, and then it’s you talking. Oh my gosh. They’ve had the Cookie Monster.
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Is this a Waze ad? No, but now I’m curious.
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If anyone uses Waze, go to your profile  and comment how many points you have.  Yeah, I’m nearing 40,000. How do you get that many points—just from driving?
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If you hit a pothole, if there’s  a car on the side of the road,   you can mark that hazard and it gives you points.  You can say “police is here,” weather, etc.
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Isn’t that dangerous—actively doing  stuff on your phone while driving?  It’s supposed to be passengers. It’ll  say “not allowed while driving.”
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Yeah, it says don’t do it while you’re  driving—which they don’t. So I always pull over.
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I’m just kidding. See a pothole? Gotta pull over. One more little go and we should be good—let’s
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wrap this up. We’re about to go film Matt riding.  We should probably put Lindsey on a horse as well.
Matt is going to ride!
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It’s probably going to be Lindsey. Do you have pants? Do you have pants?  It’s going to be both—Lindsey and Matt  are both getting on a horse today.
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Why not Matt? I’ve got to go see a guy about a dog.  You are getting on a horse today.  You can’t back out every single time.
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No. Well, now I’m scared because she’s been training.  She hasn’t been on a horse—she’s  been here. Ethel has.
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Honestly—Ethel did great. She was at the show  this weekend. I went with Rebecca and her little
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girl. They won their Western Pleasure class. It  was awesome. I had to lunge her so much and ride
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the crap out of her to get her ready for this  little girl, because at the horse show she just   came alive—like, “I’m here.” She was ready. She  was bucking on the lunge line. She was ready.
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But I will say, Matt—an eight-year-old little girl  was able to passenger her through a horse show. So
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I think you should be fine. I’ve been training too.  You’ve been training? In what way? She’s been getting stronger,   but I’ve also been getting stronger mentally.  I train physically—I train my mind and my body
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and my chakra like everybody else does. Okay—and you’ll see. There’ll be a moment.
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She’ll sense if your chakras are off. Nate’s going to edit this, but I did   have every intention of making a hand— You know how you say a horse can sense
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your fear? I feel like they sense  your chakras. Your aura, for sure.
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So I know you’ve been on a horse at Chick-fil-A  camp in Georgia. Any other horse experience?
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No—other than my friend having a horse growing  up, but she never rode it. She just had it. It
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was a “look at it in the pasture” kind of deal. Okay, so we’re going to do one last round of
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“Who’s this?” And then you’re going to— This one’s not a prank though.
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Okay. The last one was a prank by me.  If it’s a picture of Tom—this one is…
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You’re going to have to just— Okay, I’m not going to give you any   hints. I’m not going to give you hints. You didn’t come anyway—
Trivia for Lindsey
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I didn’t come—what? Anyway—no more hints. Who is this?
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Weezy. I can’t believe she just got that. I can’t believe
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she just got that. That’s not even a horse that’s  on the property. Okay, we’re on a roll today—hold
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on. That’s only one—one out of one. Good job. I’m giving her easy ones. This one’s going to
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be a little harder. Mimi—this one’s  going to be a little more difficult.  Okay, I’m going to ask them first. Okay, y’all don’t say your answers quite yet.
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Trudy. Nope, that’s not—  I think that’s—oh, let me  actually get a look here.
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You said don’t say the answer! I have my answer. I mean, she’s the one that needs to know. I have
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my answer, but— Oh…
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Rikki. Okay, she says Rikki. Who do y’all say?  Rikki. Rikki.
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Of course you’re going to say  who she says. Looks like Rikki.  Is it Rikki? I was going to say Annie. Full
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transparency—I was going to say Annie. It was Rikki. Come on.  Moo—Rikki. Usually. Doesn’t Rikki have something on her side, too?
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No, that’s Maggie. That’s Maggie.  Okay—just kidding. You have a horse named Megan? That’s so gross.
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You had a horse named Megan? No, it’s just—there are certain people   names animals shouldn’t have. Yeah—Megan.
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Megan. What’s wrong with Megan?  Okay, I have one—boys. Charlotte.
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Okay—gotta be Charlotte. Gracie’s got too much gray in her.
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Or Opal. I think that’s Gracie.  That’s not Gracie. That’s 1,000% Gracie.
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Well, I’m also 45 feet away from  the phone. Is it really Gracie?  Is it? Yeah—that short girl’s Gracie.
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Let me see— Charlotte’s got a—  It is Gracie. Slender figure.  That’s Gracie. She does have  a slender face—she’s taller.
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Opal’s got a little bit of a darker  face—she doesn’t have a pink nose.
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Okay—last one. Who’s this? Let him.
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Oh, Matt. Sophie.  Humiliating. Is it—wait, did you hear what she said?
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Sophie. Is it? I heard everything.  Is it Sophie? I can hear her think about   saying Sophie before she says it. Is it Sophie?
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Is it Sophie? Yes.
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Hold on—that was too easy to end on. One more.  Give me a hard one. One more—this one’s going
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to be good. Ready? Yes.
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Oh God. Is that a— I’m going to miss this.  Is that a weanling? Is it—Ted?
We need YOUR help!
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It’s Ted. I think it’s Ted.  I’m going with Ted. He doesn’t know—it is Ted.
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Anyway, I wouldn’t have got it. Good job. I don’t think I—anyway.
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We didn’t ask you that many questions—sorry,  we kind of took over. Let us know, if we do
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another follow-up with Miss Lindsey, what kind  of stuff you want to know—what questions you
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want to hear. Should we do her quarterly review  on camera? That’s also something we could do.
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Let us know some N names since we have  calves on the ground now. Stay tuned for
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lots of fun stuff—we’re going to ride some  special horses soon, and go off-site. We’re
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going off-prop for some videos, so stay tuned  for that, and we’ll see you in the next one.
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And let me know if you can do this. No, I can’t.
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No. On that one—stop it.
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I’ve got it on all four  monitors and everybody just—