Club 520 - Kam Jones on Pacers NBA Draft, CRAZY high school career, Derrick White comp

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We got a special special guest in the building. We're
gonna introduce my man's last to my far left. We
got my dog Bishop be hearing out the prail leagus.
How you were nasty?
What's the national Let's get to it, man.
Sure, mat Camp, you know what I'm saying. You know
you keep your feast night. Man. You got the am
ones on for sure. You know what I'm saying. No,
you grew up in Memphis. Man, they're rocking the black
forces with the white laces out there.
Man, I don't know about the white laceis I have had
some black fors. I kept the black laces.
In there though.
Yeah, Okay, don't know.
I'm sure. Welcome to the Okay to the city.
Yeah righte, my dog, young young team.
You got you what chilling man, chilling bro we got.
We got a newcomer to the league, man to the association.
Man so excited for him, excite for his Jamie Man,
Let you do the honesty to all man.
Welcome to the CE big dog Man, all big east
Man health from Memphis, Tennessee.
Man.
We got the one that Cam Jones and the building
big dog. Appreciate you sliding this man.
Welcome to that, my boy, I appreciate that, appreciate having me.
I was excited to get on here for sure. Man,
I'll see you drafted. My boy said that town was
having That's how ye. He really tapped, like, I'm coming
to Indianapolis. I'm going to Indiana.
The city had to stay all the book. Man. Welcome
to that. Man, appreciate that.
First of all, Man, we all talked about your career.
May were crazy, Mark Vivian, But how'd you get there?
Man?
Going crazy in Tennessee? What was that like hooping down
there in Memphis?
Man?
Man, growing up Memphis had some good basketball, some good
players that some went into the league. Some you know,
it was good, very good college players growing up in Memphis.
You know it was.
It was fun just being on the floor being there.
I knew I definitely wanted to get away with my
college decision. And it was actually crazy because my high
school coach was old teammates with with a coach who
was on staff and Marquette, Okay, and he basically ended
up hitting them up and then we went went out
there for a team camp. They recruited me for like
a year. Man took them a year to offer me
A week later. I knew that's why I was. I
knew that's where I wanted to go. Okay, I heard
you play center at one point. Yeah, I played center
my high school.
I was. I was the tallest player on the floor.
For real.
We had a big We had a we had a
bigger football player, but he was a football player.
He wasn't really you.
Know, everybody football, I mean everybody basketball team. He couldn't
hoop for real, though. He wasn't who won his main sport.
He was.
He had clemsion of football right now, so doing this
thing cool he found.
Yeah, I definitely played the five man, did big man
drews every day and practice.
At the skills balls. Uh.
But it's crazy how that translated because I made I
shot hella jump hooks this past year, like jump hook
and spind jump hooks, and you know that's just automatic,
just from all the work I put in that year.
So did you play one and five in high school
or did you coach let you know, be versatile.
Or yeah, a little bit. We had a we had
a younger point guard that was that was pretty good.
So he had the ball most.
Of the time.
Okay, okay, that's crazy when from center to actually being
a point guarden. I have to be a point guard
in the NBA. It ain't no way in Hill coach
could telling me to play center.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I'm trying to figure out
how you was finessing that. Bro. I ain't gonna love Bro.
I was getting doubled, like in the proach, catching the post,
catch instant double like, gotta make your work.
Ryan a live bro short. Guys, you my new favorite player.
But I didn't know that, Bro for you center. But
make it to the NBA as a PG. Bro, that's
a hell of a journey.
Bro. I thought he was posted.
I thought he was just jumping center and bringing them
going to the post.
Right.
You might get the posted.
You bigger than everybody, might got a smaller guard, But
that's for you to be a straight center.
Nigga. We got this guard. We don't need you. Bing.
I brought it.
I ain't bring it up that much. Sometime I get
a rebound and take it. But yeah, we coaches be
like full round camp. We're trying to feed it. Wow,
that's crazy.
Way you you got recruited. What if I a.
You Yeah, okay, I'm sorry.
I don't want to get ahead, but you gotta explain
that it was different. I played like the one two A.
I'm trying to forget how to funk.
You got rude and give me the hell six four center.
I was like, yeah, I was like, no, wonder it
took him a year. They ain't see something.
Center a deal. It was fun though. It was definitely fun.
Yeah, and I respect your mindset, Bro, because you really
locked in. For you to be like, I'm going to
mark head, Bro, but you got another point guard feeding
the ball, I would have a problem.
Yeah.
I would have been like, he got to come off
the bench, Coade, I gotta play the five.
I'm not playing the one.
Bro.
They never heard that in my life. Bro, sat down.
I've known hell of basketball before. You destroyed play center
in high school and runner one to a you you different, Bro, appreciate.
It, but for real, that probably helps you though a
lot because you probably became a good rebounder.
That was definitely yeah. You know what I mean.
You can see the floor, you can play multiple positions.
You probably know one through five. I sleep, but that
probably helps your game. Expand h for sure, especially in
the paint like going to the paint finishing.
Yeah, it's definitely mm hmm.
Marque was the main people on you or did you
have any other looks?
I had some some good man majors.
Okay, Yeah, I kind of I wanted to go home
major and I knew it was possible for me. So
once Marque offered, I was like, yeah, that's pretty much
where I want to go.
This is an offer.
No, mm hmmmm.
Was a penny there there? Yeah, to be Yeah, that's
all right, bro it happens, bro Ther.
Is this rumor in truth that wake Forest was interested
in you?
Uh? I think wake Forest might have shown interest. They didn't.
They weren't recruiting me for Okay, don't worry about it.
We make mistakes all the time.
Did they give you the ball right away? You had
to come in you know what I mean? Marquet man
coach smart. Was he really let us play so like
he kind of seen what I do. Yeah, he'd go, man,
once he's seen what I could do a little bit,
you know, he would pull me to the side as
a freshman, like you know, when you get the ball,
go score, go be aggressive. He like he be talking
ship like go like scoring his ass, cam scoring him.
It's funny.
Now that's a player's dream. I was definitely definitely a
player's coach. Like he said that in the games, like
I had a ball on the do.
Like just go?
That's him?
Yeah, for sure, for sure? Kill him? Was like kill her,
kill her? You don't want to go? That used to
be the team tam catch right before.
If it's like you, bro, that's dope because a lot
of people, they say a lot of people that I
haven't met through this ship. They was like, when they
get to school, it'd be different than actual recruitments.
Like, Bro, this ain't how you.
Came to my house and told me that should was
gonna be so for you to have that instant love.
That's far And then one of my kids getting recruited
by market, I might tell them the truth now Yeah sure, yeah,
that's that's funny obviously.
Man, you know you went to market for Hooper. You
know what I'm saying? Boxing? Was that your first one?
To uh?
No, I want my first love. I pretty much picked
up love for being around my dad. He liked to
watch a lot of fights, big time fights. He grew
up a huge Mayweather fan watched reviews. Yeah for sure
pretty much. When I got to Milwaukee, was able to
find a good coach with Coach Angel up there, a
good facility up there, and you know, I was just
training up there for years. Who get for your fighter?
Uh Man Aerol Spence Okay, his last fight was rough Man.
He got the ship. Be shout out to him. But
it's crazy though.
But did go crazy? Yeah, yeah, I rock with Spence though.
It's some good upcome up and coming young fighters too.
Like who you like?
I'm in the like Molten, Okay, I like do the
Mason He's probably he nice?
Yeah for sure.
I just hope none.
But I just hope he continued, and I hope he
has some good I hope he fights some good fighters.
You know how I go like no, no, no, shape
the Tang Davison them, but they don't really fight the
best fighters.
I feel what you're saying, Like.
Like coour Hew some fighters, but he ain't found nobody
that really nice.
Yeah, he waiting on that on that big time. At
least it seems like it seemed like, Yeah, I.
Like to I like boost too, man boots nice in
the rain.
I'm silid quite a few times. Nobody ever out No,
I ain't never, I ain't never knocked down yet. Okay
a big yeah.
I know my boy, my boy Turner boxing now we
got He sent me the footage man telling me set
up the celebrity match for.
Him and laying.
Land.
That's some good ones right there, And I.
Was like.
Them, celebrity matches make money, bro, straight up, the real
dated a real boxing right now.
Boys did with that? That charged the white fight at me?
Weak you too, that's w I know we're gonna talk
about it. That was a classic. We did the ring
walk walk then kept going.
He might have to be a rear curve, yes, so
I act like us man, you might just have to
come together on the season badly do that for sure.
Sure man obviously had a great real market man. Like
you said, freshman year got acclimatic. What was that time
where you felt like, all right, I'm ready that's my
team man?
Right when that Uh, it took me a while to
get over that sweet sixteen lost my junior year and man,
I'm still youing over how we went out senior year.
But yeah, once I got.
Over pretty much, you know, Coach pulled me into his
office and was like, Okay, I'm not gonna go in
the portal and fish for no point guard because I
think there's something you can do for us at this level,
for this team. So man, putting a hell of work
over the summer, working on my game, watching individual film
with teammates, getting our two man game right, learning how
you know more, learn more about them as people learn
more about what they like, what they like to do
on the floor, and we was able to just you know,
go out there and do our thing.
It was a lot of fun for sure.
I was definitely Big East, definitely not an easy conference
of player.
It was one of your favorite games. What you hot?
Your favorite moments in college? Know what I'm saying, We're crazy, Oh,
just in college in general.
Uh, probably getting the triple double against Purdue, because Purdue,
we we owed them, They had beat us. My sophomore year.
We pretty much had them. We played them here, get
that game away. Then we lost them in the Maled
Classic Championship. That was painful, very painful. It was it's
a story behind that. But uh yeah, so we played
in my senior year and we was like, bro y'all,
y'all not beating us.
Bro.
So that was pretty much our mindset for.
Y'all have to be the same conference for y'all playing
three times.
Yeah, we turned it into a home and home after
the Mali game. So my senior year, and they gonna
play him here this year coming up.
Okay, I watched we got a kid named Ryan. Uh damn,
what's wrong? Last name?
Well, yeah, Ryan kid. Yeah, but I've seen y'all have
a little duel in the guard real dude, Yeah, y'all
that's going crazy.
I hate our opponents, I understand. Damn, I don't lie.
He was flying. It was crazy. He had thirty eight. Yeah,
y'all both was going there.
Uh like twenty six if you assist. Okay, they had
a duel.
I was like, damn, that's that's why I had seen
you play before that.
But I was watching Ryan.
I ain't gonna lie like because he a little bro,
And I was just like, damn, damn they going bro.
He was he was not missing.
Bro.
Then there are all three facts that was on your
toughest match up right there this past season. Yeah, I
like Luis or Lewis from Saint John's. He was all right, Yeah,
the bigs, like you said, he's a tough It's always
tough here, like even like seeing all only win in
the conference was against Yukon.
It's really like no game you could just pull up
and just be as your way through. Yeah.
On one game against the Yeah, in fact they are, man,
that ain't the first time they lost to honestly, Yeah,
back to bad chance.
Yeah.
Could you play for a coach like that? Coach early,
keep it real? Yeah, I feel like he loves his players.
I mean he's just a little he got a little screws.
All coaches gotta have a little screw.
Yeah.
Yeah, obviously I'm not too fond of him, but you
know I'm rocking with coach Smart.
Nah.
Yeah, I was just saying like that, that's style.
Yeah sure, yeah, sure, yeah, he'd be on one. I'm
trying to get him to start acting like that. That's
why you ain't gonna do that. You ain't got that
so cool, but I cut you out. I make a
joke afterwards.
Like boy, you said, all right, boy.
That clip Bill was like he was like, your status,
don't worry about your status because they sucked quite frankly.
Me, boy, y'all all trash. That's what I'm telling none
of y'all going to the NBA tomorrow.
Bro.
They be like, what like y'all they sophomore. None of
y'all going to the league tomorrow. Like I'm going to class.
Can't shout out to them boys? Man, sure for sure?
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And io. It is crazy, bro.
Yeah, that's the first time we got some real love
about the NIA.
Yeah.
And I it was crazy, Uh got it.
Yeah, it was good man, It was ran.
It was ran real well at Marquette had a very
good collective, very good people in uh doing that job,
in that professional n I l people to help put
your name out there, get you, you know, brand deals
or whatever.
It was. It was love, man, for sure.
That's far when I seen my boy doing the Crush commercial,
I said, okay, they tapped in down.
Yeah that was love that Crush commercials love. It was bad.
They chose a rough time. My cut was asked.
But he let you get prepared as as you got
it done.
Man, the show was all good.
Let me ask you this because Marquette brand Jordan, right, Yeah.
What's that like? Did y'all get peas?
Did you'll get special ps every year? Man?
Would you'll get We got some sixes, some one, some
low ones, some fours and like some forced.
Thirty thirty eight.
Colors and the ones, uh I could put them up
they like, they got all March colors.
He's gonna pull them real quick. I hope you ain't
the forest I'm thinking about. Yeah, I think it is
the either they got. I hope that the forest I'm
thinking of the blues.
Yeah, I think the Yellow Joints seen them.
I think it then right there? Yeah, I think you
got them. I don't know, I don't know if you
got You ain't get there.
You don't know.
You don't know what I got? Yeah, nast so I
ain't seen them for long as.
Imagine my kids take care of my boy's fire and yeah,
sure now that's the fire part, going to George because
they'd be later is right here.
Not see him? Yeah? Sure, freaking them the yellow ones,
Yeah sure, a little little live man.
Yeah, you know, nasty you got to be to wear
a rare pet was a little limit that is not old,
that's old hing nothing them all right, yeah, rob with
them them for you talking about I think a few
a while ago. They got them, oh yeah them them
market them, yeah them fire.
I'm crazy obviously. Man. You declared, how was that that
pre draft workout? What was that like? Man? Man?
My my pre draft experience was a little interesting because
I got hurt in the combine.
Uh.
I had had a grade to hamstring like strain or tear.
Sat out for a few for a few weeks. Then
I was able to go to a few pre draft
workouts and do like one on nose shooting. So I
was just pretty much there on the sidelines given energy,
talking ship yeah, just encouraging people.
Yeah, it was cool.
And then I shot at the end of workout, so
it was it was pretty cool pret drift process similar
to you.
That was mom right there. I had sprang my m CL.
I had a great two spring my m C. I
had to sit out like that. I didn't really do
no shooting drills or nothing, but very similar to you.
You went to South Yeah, I went to Philly the
day before the drift and I shot in Indiana.
That was it. Let me stop you to seven on
a real tour? Yeah, real tour? Oh wow? All right?
You in the league now? Man?
So what's what's something you feel like you can work
on on your game? What's one of your weaknesses? Man?
First and foremost is getting stronger, Getting my body stronger.
In the league a long time, bodies are much more mature.
They know how to train. So you know that's one area.
Making sure just getting faster, getting stronger, making sure my
body is prepared, and just cleaning everything up with both hands, passion,
finishing around the rim. Uh you know my lad of
movement for defense and because you know we're gonna be
picking up four yeah, yeah, you know, just constantly working
on that, getting reps in that, you know, because I'm
looking forward to know I'm already doing it. Just adapt
into the Paci away, you know, really embodying that embody
and what that means.
I was you know, you got drafted by I want
to ask you never catch up.
Make it.
Damn praise there that's the mom It's like we got it,
Griffy laughing hard about all right, so it's about today
man from.
Doing it? All right?
But we know you gotta drafted by the face. Where
did you think you might go? Did you have any
teams that was interested in you? Or the idea where
you make got drafted that or I promise? Uh I
didn't get a promise. Well, I knew I was going
to Indiana when they.
Traded up to get thirty eight. Okay, I talked that
out with my agent.
We feel this is a good spot for me to
be at, and it's somewhere I wanted to go with
like I only wanted to, well, I wanted to. I
guess I preferred. I really didn't care where I went.
But if you would have had to ask me, it
was a few.
Teams that I prefer Indiana with one of them for sure.
So yeah, I'll try to get him.
That's a cool way to do it again.
I'm trying to bring it in like a lightning bug too.
To listen, I know, I forget we want to.
It's funny because your style played like perfect for the patients. Obviously, Man,
you in the College and the awards.
It's his turner.
Racial team that gets up and down the court. You
can make good decisions. Man. You watch the team obviously
in the finals, man, just like I can lock in
with them for shure.
Yeah, most definitely. That's what I was still watching them
the whole playoffs, Like you know, I rock with this system.
Just how they running and playing similar to a lot
similar to Marquette.
Yeah, you go good. A lot of the opportunity.
I was about to say, it's a big opportunity with
Tyre's being out for the season.
Obviously they got TJ. McConnell.
They probably got some other guards that we're not thinking
of right now. I'm not sure they picked up. They
probably picked up somebody in free agency. But you gotta
have a big opportunity though.
It's hoping for you.
That's what I think about this. I wish you would
have game paused on different circumstansions. I'm saying a lot
of turboil going on right now. You definitely get a
chance to playing.
I love that for you, my boy.
Looking forward to summer league. You know, those guys building
those relationships on the floor. About a summer league. Man,
we're talking about that. The old days boys used hooping
at Orlando outside you and that was okey to fire
in summer league. Paces used to playing that every time too.
I don't know everybody in Vegas. Now it's another one too,
like in Utah. Still, you're going to Vegas, right.
Yeah, you gotta be here, will be ready for that
weather war. Yeah, I know out there weeks is what
a beater? For sure?
Baby boy, you had a beat you definitely the black
will get you a.
Period, sure to be the white. Don't don't wear no
great beaters. Had a brain.
He might look you got a black, you got black,
you got a great beat, got great beaters.
I can tell you niggas from stop wearing great beat, bro,
that they got a great.
Cy crazy, no great beaters in there.
You have the crib in I normally I keep the
I keep order fresh packs on rotation. Just slide the
great ones on.
It's gonna hat white bro. Ordering the multicolored pack of
beaters is crazy. You are not fifty five a great
beater like draw.
I get black, pack of black or pack of white,
and then it's a it's another pack like with variety
in there.
Okay, we're gonna cut the round the variety pack. Gotta
extra white would have man? We heard around way. Man,
you're a big R B guy, man R and B artist.
Who you're rocking right now?
Man? Right way? My favorite of all time? Okay, yeah, yeah, yes, yes, okay.
Yep, my new favorite player.
Bro locked. You might not be wearing a great beater.
Listen to right Way. We're gonna make sure you.
I think outside sinking a great light singing and the
great man with some forces. What about old anybody grew up?
Also to them? What's old to us? Though?
Probably that's why I'm trying to be about the ages,
So go ahead.
I was just.
Chills you good, no matter what them.
He is officially part of We're looking nervous and he
was confusing me. But don't ever be shamed to say,
cams on this one.
Scream cams on.
Here to call you your mast. You have his boy,
he is part of the thing, my guy.
Listen he did. Boy, we don't. We don't, all right, I.
Said, tell he tell you listen. Man, Robert did that ship.
We don't like Robber Robert the chair just breaking Kelly
back ya.
We just want r Kell don't want Robert ship.
He was over here, Like, yeah, you can say it
here because Kelly Robbert. We don't walk around Defaul Robert r.
Kelly. He sill.
How you feel about the rappers though, man? From your city?
Like you got some doplings from Memphis.
Yeah, it is definitely a good amount.
Is that like a thing like you know what I'm saying, Like,
I know, Yo Gotti does his birthday bash and stuff there,
but y'all got bad, y'all got youngster, y'all got glow.
Off everybody brow. Yeah, yeah, you keep like one of
them that I can get, I can get into.
Yeah, bushisty, real catchy, free posty, and he's still still living.
Ye.
I just didn't know what I wanted to like what
that music scene was like though.
Man, it was like around my junior senior year high school,
Memphis was on a crazy run. All these all these
people that you just name was kind of on the up,
up and coming. That's all you heard just in cars
running around throughout the day in the gym.
Mm hmm. Yeah.
I ain't gonna lie when I'm in the gym. I'm
more of a like a mellow type guy, like like
no cat was in there, Drake. But when I didn't
have especially in Memphis, you know it was it wasn't that.
So I learned a lot of a lot of songs
from that. So yeah, I definitely learned about a few
artists listening around.
Okay, okay, yeah, chill, chill. He like us, he like me,
like they like well, they like new Ship. I don't
like nothing way. I like n B A.
I'm rolling Broo for sure, Cap Soliard.
He gets no playing my right, ain't no disrespect, I
ain't tapped in my playlist.
Don't go past two thousand and seven.
Yeah, wicked bro, you go to one of my parties.
You invited, but it's definitely was you born in oh two?
Oh yeah, well you was born we all boy.
I was listening to Little John B I be in China.
What was going crazy? Two thousand and two? I was
asking for a lot of ass whoomens.
As well. Seventh eighth grade, Yeah, literally crazy times, man.
I went to school three h two O two M
brought up and.
Grizzly fan boy, chance, who do you rock with? I
was never really a Grizzies fan. I kind of grew
up a players guy. I used to like Kobe a
lot for sure, Steph. So those are my top two
players I really liked. But that great and grind Era
was that it was cool like that with Tony Allen, them,
Tony Allen, Zach Randolph Martin picked three.
Yeah. Yeah, they turned Memphis up for real. It really did.
Mike Conley from mar City. Yeah from Yeah Mike, they
had a crazy run.
Who you with model your game after or do you
see yourself similar to anybody in the league right now?
Yeah? A little for sure.
I was thinking like in my interviews, always gave comps
like Derek White, Okay, I'm kind of like ah, I
was in my interviews. I was actually saying them hard
kind of guys like that that can play one in
the two. Yeah, do what you need and catch and shoot. Okay,
can handle the ball, make the right play with the ball,
don't turn it over. Those are two of my main guys.
Got sha, man, that's a value player right now. I
ain't gonna lie. Nobody want to do Derek whiter or
and them hard. So it's the audio game after them. Yeah,
you that's the one one.
Yeah.
People that can goud multiple positions and play multiple positions.
People love them definitely before we got here, until you
got the advice for the youngster man going into his
rookie year, man be the first in the gym, last
to leave. That's just like be a gym rat.
Like I swear to guy, everything that you're thinking you
want to do, it's gonna be there in your teen twelve,
fifteen twenty. My biggest advice to the girls ain't going nowhere.
That was my kryptonite. I lived in Atlanta as a rookie.
I went out, so I'm telling you they're gonna be
there in the summer. They're gonna be there everywhere. So
throughout that year, stay in the gym. First to leave,
I mean first to first to get there. Last week,
I was the first to leave. Gonna be the first
to the first to get their last to leave. Every
single time man live in the gym. Bro was definitely
I'm gonna do that. Yeah, living there, Bro, it ain't
nothing else to do. Especially you and Andy tell you
you can call us anytime.
We be down here.
We be chilling, but we'll come shoot with you too.
I probably butt you some one of one steal. Okay,
we're gonna see that ship like, listen, listen, I'm old.
I still sure, but just live in the gym. Bro, Bro,
that's why Indiana like a perfect place to come because
it ain't too much going on.
You still can get out and ship, but live in
the gym.
Call me for all your off court activities.
Yeah you got any questions, Bro? You need never to
go where to eat?
We got you. Make sure to take care of the
show man. I appreciate you having me on. It's easy.
Everybody in the.
City gonna rock with you too, just because you can't. Man,
A lot of people don't come on the show when
they first get here.
You know what I mean? Now do that you're actually
the first pacer said you are?
You are the first placer second was saying, Miles Miles
sat down, Miles, our guys.
The Miles Miles had the script in his head. He's
playing leave it anyway. We hope you stay here for years.
You know what I'm saying.
I'm happy for your congratulations, but we got a new
pacer on the bill. Come on, man, I appreciate Square.
You know what I'm saying. Pace for a flight man.
Happy to have you, man. We're crazy. Okay, okay, number
yo remember our city, yo, yo, hell that seven yeah
years seven all n B A and that U yeah
be a gymmer.
You gotta be a gymer. Hold that seven down, say
don't put that forty four out?
You want to switch it up there? Legendary, Y want
that forty four?
That motherfucking supper League, Okay forty four legendary.
Hello for shure Man City, show load of ye man tapping,
have a great summer league, have a great rookie year. Man.
We're gonna be rooting for you. Can't wait to see
you when we.
Long the whole journey. Bro, we'll see you down there too. Bro,
we'll be down there to link up. Sure for sure, Man,
you know what it is. Club five twenty the volume